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Title: Posting about new miner
Post by: Nennan on November 20, 2022, 08:35:31 PM
Hello,

I heard a few stories about some of the open-source miners main devs just straight up getting banned from here from posting their miner, talking here about a dev that improved GhostRider for cpuminer  (cpuminer-gr) and posted it here and is used mostly by GR algo coins, but others that just post modified versions without or changes fees to their own (just search for cpuminer-gr forks here), or just use the GPL miners in the closed-source (rplant or example) are allowed and kept here.

My question is if I want to announce/release my miner how should I announce it so mods do not ban me for nothing?

Due to info about open-source miner devs getting banned and closed-source being kept here, I lean heavily towards pushing it as closed source

I want to post here but if legit devs are being banned without any explanation or info about it, it is kinda discouraging xD


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: decodx on November 20, 2022, 11:02:21 PM
I want to post here but if legit devs are being banned without any explanation or info about it, it is kinda discouraging xD

Legitimate devs don't get banned for no reason. Don't believe such stories unless you have proof to show. But if you try to post some malware or some other shit, you will get banned without warning. That's how it should be.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on November 20, 2022, 11:48:19 PM
I want to post here but if legit devs are being banned without any explanation or info about it, it is kinda discouraging xD
The reason most of them are banned is that they post malware while claiming that they are miners or wallets. If your software has no malware, then you won't get banned. I have seen so many folks post new software and not get banned.

Just do the right thing if you don't want to get reported and get banned


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Nennan on November 21, 2022, 03:02:18 AM
I heard about one whoch i do not know but i saw the post of the cpuminer-gr dev where he literally put link to the github repo (fork of cpuminer-opt), some small info about it and donation addresses. Not sure how that was wrong, hence my main question how to determine if i get banned from posting github link with miner or now.

It is literally miner that probably 60% of GR miners use, it was more as it was literally the fastest and only good option back then, is open source and out there for some time for now so not sure how that might be bad.

He talked about main GR coin discord about it some time ago. What i personally did not like about it is that apparently there are no reason he got about the ban, just ban, no explanation, no questions asked or answered when he asked about it.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: P00P135 on November 21, 2022, 08:34:56 AM
Maybe whoever you are talking about got caught in the ban wave where people were spamming malware 4x a day and it looked a lot like one of their posts.  Either way if its sus its getting banned, not that big of a deal.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: swogerino on November 21, 2022, 09:50:39 AM
Hello,

I heard a few stories about some of the open-source miners main devs just straight up getting banned from here from posting their miner, talking here about a dev that improved GhostRider for cpuminer  (cpuminer-gr) and posted it here and is used mostly by GR algo coins, but others that just post modified versions without or changes fees to their own (just search for cpuminer-gr forks here), or just use the GPL miners in the closed-source (rplant or example) are allowed and kept here.

My question is if I want to announce/release my miner how should I announce it so mods do not ban me for nothing?

Due to info about open-source miner devs getting banned and closed-source being kept here, I lean heavily towards pushing it as closed source

I want to post here but if legit devs are being banned without any explanation or info about it, it is kinda discouraging xD

I don't know any dev that improved the Ghostrider algorithm because I am mining Raptoreum and the only dev that I know is the real one,who is also providing the binaries through the official Github through the Raptoreum official website.

Any smart dev that provides an "improved" version of this algorithm is most probably providing people malware and once it is known that it is malware getting him banned is the best thing to do in the forum so we can save some unsuspecting newbies by downloading this infected software.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: decodx on November 21, 2022, 05:22:27 PM
He talked about main GR coin discord about it some time ago. What i personally did not like about it is that apparently there are no reason he got about the ban, just ban, no explanation, no questions asked or answered when he asked about it.

If you can't give any specific details about the case, we can't give you any explanation or even an idea of what might have happened. The ban was what it was, and you have to move on. However, there are cases where a ban makes sense, and I can assure you that there is no personal vendetta against him or any other member. If you feel that a ban has been unjust, then the best way to remove it is to contact the staff or post about it on the Meta section. A staff members will review the situation and either remove the ban or explain why it was justified.  But please give us something more specific than just, "suspicion" and "concerns", because otherwise we won't really be able to do anything for you.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Nennan on November 21, 2022, 07:36:40 PM
I don't know any dev that improved the Ghostrider algorithm because I am mining Raptoreum and the only dev that I know is the real one,who is also providing the binaries through the official Github through the Raptoreum official website.

Any smart dev that provides an "improved" version of this algorithm is most probably providing people malware and once it is known that it is malware getting him banned is the best thing to do in the forum so we can save some unsuspecting newbies by downloading this infected software.

I'm talking about Delgon. If you are mining RTM and are on Discord, you know him. It is his miner that is linked on the official Raptoreum website. You can search him and bitcointalk where he talks about how he got banned for his one and only post about cpuminer-gr.

If you can't give any specific details about the case, we can't give you any explanation or even an idea of what might have happened. The ban was what it was, and you have to move on. However, there are cases where a ban makes sense, and I can assure you that there is no personal vendetta against him or any other member. If you feel that a ban has been unjust, then the best way to remove it is to contact the staff or post about it on the Meta section. A staff members will review the situation and either remove the ban or explain why it was justified.  But please give us something more specific than just, "suspicion" and "concerns", because otherwise we won't really be able to do anything for you.

I saw that post but it is hard to give more "proof" as mods just deleted the post and banned him. It was his only post so hard for it to be related to something else. What is weird imo that there is no way of communication for him with mods or whatever to explain or so the mods can give some info.

Maybe whoever you are talking about got caught in the ban wave where people were spamming malware 4x a day and it looked a lot like one of their posts.  Either way if its sus its getting banned, not that big of a deal.

So it is okay to be just falsily banned and that you cannot do anything about it? weird mentality but ok?


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: miner29 on November 21, 2022, 07:45:58 PM
If the Dev creates an account and posts per the rules and doesnt spam and post malware than there is no chance he will be ban.



Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Nennan on November 21, 2022, 08:01:41 PM
Been on the internet for too long to know there are no absolutes there.
Also, do not forget that 99% of mods in high circles have huge power trip so even if they falsely banned him, they would never  admit their fault.

This site is def great for posting new miner to spread the word but just thought about getting banned after for some unknown (or even nonexisting) reason points into that it is not so good in the end. Lack of any communication from the mod team to him was already telling that they do not rly care about users much.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: JayDDee on November 21, 2022, 09:07:18 PM
I'm talking about Delgon. If you are mining RTM and are on Discord, you know him. It is his miner that is linked on the official Raptoreum website. You can search him and bitcointalk where he talks about how he got banned for his one and only post about cpuminer-gr.

Bull shit. There is no delgon miner. He was probably banned for plagiarism.

Quote from: Nennan
Been on the internet for too long

Not long enough if you're that clueless.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Nennan on November 21, 2022, 10:11:55 PM
Ugh, would have expected more from cpuminer-opt dev... or is it cpuminer-jdd, or would it be JayDDee Miner on the site hmmm...
I think setch1 is also not a dev of xmrig coz it the miner repo does not have his name, damn, so many imposters.

A quick look at who is actually pushing changes and releasing miner and you have your answer.

If the standard is GitHub user must be the same as the username here and preferably the same as the miner name then I do not think I would ever be able to meet those and would get insta banned like Delgon lol.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: bitminer9000 on November 21, 2022, 10:13:07 PM
delgon developed a miner that cleaned up the original ghostrider miner that was developed by tri and also provided 32 and 64 bit arm support. this came out before the wyvern miner.
The wyvern miner that supports the ghostrider algorithm was developed under ausminer and delgon as well.
the wyvern miner came out before xmrig had ghostrider support.
I'm talking about Delgon. If you are mining RTM and are on Discord, you know him. It is his miner that is linked on the official Raptoreum website. You can search him and bitcointalk where he talks about how he got banned for his one and only post about cpuminer-gr.

Bull shit. There is no delgon miner. He was probably banned for plagiarism.

Quote from: Nennan
Been on the internet for too long

Not long enough if you're that clueless.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: miner29 on November 21, 2022, 10:40:03 PM
Been on the internet for too long to know there are no absolutes there.
Also, do not forget that 99% of mods in high circles have huge power trip so even if they falsely banned him, they would never  admit their fault.

This site is def great for posting new miner to spread the word but just thought about getting banned after for some unknown (or even nonexisting) reason points into that it is not so good in the end. Lack of any communication from the mod team to him was already telling that they do not rly care about users much.

I answered your question about why people get banned.  You dont seem to like it.

Here is a link to the rules. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)

Play by them and you will have no issue. 

Violate them and you will get the ban hammer...it really is that simple.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: JayDDee on November 21, 2022, 11:23:54 PM
delgon developed a miner that cleaned up the original ghostrider miner that was developed by tri and also provided 32 and 64 bit arm support. this came out before the wyvern miner.

Some claim delgon wrote cpuminer from the ground up. It's all bull shit.

Ghostrider is a mix of X16R and Cryptonight built on top of Pooler's original cpuminer, expanded by TPruvot, with Wolf's Cryptonight
optimisations and my X16R optimisations.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: bitminer9000 on November 21, 2022, 11:38:17 PM
delgon developed a miner that cleaned up the original ghostrider miner that was developed by tri and also provided 32 and 64 bit arm support. this came out before the wyvern miner.

Some claim delgon wrote cpuminer from the ground up. It's all bull shit.

Ghostrider is a mix of X16R and Cryptonight built on top of Pooler's original cpuminer, expanded by TPruvot, with Wolf's Cryptonight
optimisations and my X16R optimisations.

I understand what ghostrider is. I been following the project raptoreum that uses ghostrider from the test net days before ghostrider was even used.
I never said delgon wrote a miner from the ground up. he worked on the original ghostrider"take2" miner and also provided arm support. arm support was not implemented in till then, something you do not support at all. then later on the wyrven miner came out which dramatically increased performance. he also even worked on a modified version for the intel KNL platform, something you do not support.
I've even seen wolf himself call it delgon's miner. not sure why you have to swear about it.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on November 21, 2022, 11:52:17 PM
I'm talking about Delgon. If you are mining RTM and are on Discord, you know him. It is his miner that is linked on the official Raptoreum website. You can search him and bitcointalk where he talks about how he got banned for his one and only post about cpuminer-gr.
Maybe you should post his bitcointalk profile link here so that we can tell why he got banned

I saw that post but it is hard to give more "proof" as mods just deleted the post and banned him. It was his only post so hard for it to be related to something else. What is weird imo that there is no way of communication for him with mods or whatever to explain or so the mods can give some info.
he can create another profile and use it only to appeal in meta. I have seen people get unbanned before

There are some 3rd party sites that archive. We will be able to see the post even if it was deleted by the mods


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: JayDDee on November 22, 2022, 03:51:39 AM
raptor3um is plagiarised. The source code is from my repo but the binaries don't match the source, do not trust them.

All I see is bullshit claims without any evidence. Where is this elusive miner? It's not recommended my Raptoreum as was claimed.
Where is the Ghostrider ARM support? Where's the KNL code? Where did Wolf vouch for him?

It's no wonder he got banned if he even exists.

To OP, this is not how to introduce yourself as a credible dev. You have a newbie account regardless of any claims of experience.
If you want to be taken seriously show some of your work or references that can be verified. However, your obsession with being
banned suggests you have questionable motives.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Nennan on November 22, 2022, 04:37:47 AM
Maybe you should post his bitcointalk profile link here so that we can tell why he got banned

Got his profile link here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3282724

he can create another profile and use it only to appeal in meta. I have seen people get unbanned before

There are some 3rd party sites that archive. We will be able to see the post even if it was deleted by the mods

So he should create new account, isnt that like ban evasion or whatever if he was already banned? How is that different from what he already did from sending mail to bitcointalk ppl? so they never read their mails and thats why he should post in forum where they actually read stuff?

raptor3um is plagiarised. The source code is from my repo but the binaries don't match the source, do not trust them.

You are talking about this one? https://github.com/Raptor3um/cpuminer-opt
Well, code is changed because they added whole GhostRider algo logic.

Where is the Ghostrider ARM support?

The version that compiles on ARM was created here: https://github.com/michal-zurkowski/cpuminer-gr by Delgon. It is not anymore on Raptoreum website Download section as the code itself is not optimized for normal CPUs like improved vesrion below.

All I see is bullshit claims without any evidence. Where is this elusive miner? It's not recommended my Raptoreum as was claimed.
Where's the KNL code?
And the Delgon and Ausminer cpuminer-gr that is mostly used is here: https://github.com/WyvernTKC/cpuminer-gr-avx2 not sure what is "ellusive" about it as it is literally in the Download section on Raptoreum website.
KNL binaries were mostly dropped since version after 1.1 as the interest was not so great with it iirc.

Where did Wolf vouch for him?
Delgon was doing a misc checks for Wolf as RTM team though he might put GR logic together and push a miner for GPUs but he dropped it and andrucrypt (Wildrig) made it instead. If you know him, you can ask him about Delgon, they were colborating and Wolf was quite active in RTM discord for a long time, did not see him lately tho.

Here Wolf's reaction about cpuminer-gr fork being on Bitcointalk just fine where they changed colors and address to the Delgon and Ausminer dev fee wallets but main cpuminer-gr and dev was banned. And some other of him talking about the miner
https://i.ibb.co/7QyHfY2/Screenshot-from-2022-11-22-05-28-15.png (https://ibb.co/r3ygj74)
https://i.ibb.co/j37z545/Screenshot-from-2022-11-22-05-27-22.png (https://ibb.co/9yRhvYv)
https://i.ibb.co/NjTzQCN/Screenshot-from-2022-11-22-05-17-46.png (https://ibb.co/C7PFN89)


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: JayDDee on November 22, 2022, 05:54:27 AM
raptor3um is plagiarised. The source code is from my repo but the binaries don't match the source, do not trust them.

You are talking about this one? https://github.com/Raptor3um/cpuminer-opt
Well, code is changed because they added whole GhostRider algo logic.

If you are defending plagiarism you are not to be trusted.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Nennan on November 22, 2022, 06:10:42 AM
raptor3um is plagiarised. The source code is from my repo but the binaries don't match the source, do not trust them.

You are talking about this one? https://github.com/Raptor3um/cpuminer-opt
Well, code is changed because they added whole GhostRider algo logic.

If you are defending plagiarism you are not to be trusted.


Wait, what?
So, let me get this straight
1. Your fork of cpuminer-multi with changes is OK
2. Fork of cpuminer-gr (which is a fork of cpuminer-opt) that changes colors of prints and stays open source is OK - cpuminer-gr fork that I mentioned before

but!
Fork of cpuminer-opt that adds another algo is not ok?

How is that logical? Your logic also makes you a plagiarist of cpuminer-multi in that case as well.
If you say that forking GPL code and adhering to GPL license (staying open source) is bad, I have a lot of questions in that case


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: miner29 on November 22, 2022, 02:25:27 PM
New miner posted, no ban.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422586.0


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: JayDDee on November 22, 2022, 04:19:14 PM
raptor3um is plagiarised. The source code is from my repo but the binaries don't match the source, do not trust them.
So, let me get this straight

You've gotten nothing straight.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Nennan on November 22, 2022, 06:50:59 PM
Aaaa, you mean the problem is that they put binaries from the dev repo (https://github.com/npq7721/cpuminer-gr) into raptoreum repo withoud doing PR of the code.
I always used npq7721 as it was the one linked long time ago so did not notice the change now.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: bitminer9000 on November 22, 2022, 07:49:38 PM
raptor3um is plagiarised. The source code is from my repo but the binaries don't match the source, do not trust them.

All I see is bullshit claims without any evidence. Where is this elusive miner? It's not recommended my Raptoreum as was claimed.
Where is the Ghostrider ARM support? Where's the KNL code? Where did Wolf vouch for him?

It's no wonder he got banned if he even exists.

To OP, this is not how to introduce yourself as a credible dev. You have a newbie account regardless of any claims of experience.
If you want to be taken seriously show some of your work or references that can be verified. However, your obsession with being
banned suggests you have questionable motives.

Did you ever release a miner with raptoreum support? so how would the binaries match your repo? I don't even understand you right now.

The source code for the wyvern miner is on github where is has always been. There is a link to it on the main raptoreum page.
The miner with arm support is also on github where it always has been. It's literally in delgons github.
I'm not going to link it cause you will probably start throwing your weight around calling it "bs" and try to get me banned.

It's pretty sad that you attacked another developer with out even knowing who he is.

I never said wolf vouched for him. I said i've seen wolf call it delgons miner. For example in discord chat.

I'm sure what else you want. It seems you know everything about these miners even thou I never seen you release anything for raptoreum or pop your head into the raptoreum discord.
I've seen tri, ausminer, delgon and sech1 in there, you know the people who actually made miners with raptoreum support.

Are you even the real jayddee, your account is from 2020 like 2 years ago, seems very suspicious.
not sure how your account is only 2 years old, even mine is from 2013.
maybe your just always late to the party considering you dont even know where the wyrven miner source code is.
its not cool to throw your weight around and say plagiarism on something you obviously have no clue about.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: JayDDee on November 22, 2022, 09:19:38 PM
The source code for the wyvern miner is on github where is has always been. There is a link to it on the main raptoreum page.
The miner with arm support is also on github where it always has been. It's literally in delgons github.
I'm not going to link it cause you will probably start throwing your weight around calling it "bs" and try to get me banned.

You're playing a shell game, put up or shut up. Repeating bull shit over and over doesn't make it true.

And who the fuck are you? Rudy Giuliani?


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on November 22, 2022, 09:26:36 PM
Got his profile link here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3282724
I have just checked out his post and it contains mega links. Most people attempting to spread malware use mega links. Why didn't he use a direct link from the GitHub repository?

So he should create new account, isnt that like ban evasion or whatever if he was already banned? How is that different from what he already did from sending mail to bitcointalk ppl? so they never read their mails and thats why he should post in forum where they actually read stuff?
It's allowed. It only becomes ban evasion when he uses the new account to post outside the appeal thread in Meta.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: decodx on November 22, 2022, 10:25:25 PM
So he should create new account, isnt that like ban evasion or whatever if he was already banned? How is that different from what he already did from sending mail to bitcointalk ppl? so they never read their mails and thats why he should post in forum where they actually read stuff?

You never said he "sent mail to bitcointalk ppl", and how do you know that no one responded?

All I'm saying is, if you want a public discussion about why your (his) account was banned, posting in the Meta section would be the best place to go. The ban evasion rule applies only if you post in sections and threads other than a specific one in the Meta section.

Fork of cpuminer-opt that adds another algo is not ok?

How is that logical? Your logic also makes you a plagiarist of cpuminer-multi in that case as well.
If you say that forking GPL code and adhering to GPL license (staying open source) is bad, I have a lot of questions in that case

If it's "just" a fork of GPL code then why didn't he release the full source and post his git repo? Why only binaries?


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: JayDDee on November 22, 2022, 11:49:43 PM
Aaaa, you mean the problem is that they put binaries from the dev repo (https://github.com/npq7721/cpuminer-gr) into raptoreum repo withoud doing PR of the code.
I always used npq7721 as it was the one linked long time ago so did not notice the change now.

Aaaa, that's a BIG problem and why it's plagiarism. Any binaries posted should be built with the same source code so it's reproducible.
If you consider yourself a credible developper you should already have known that.

There's no ARM code there either. cpuminer-multi already supported Cryptonight and X16R and ARM so it's no big deal
to put them together to get Ghostrider support on ARM. The only ARM specific code in the source came from my fork which
had leftover code from my forking of cpuminer-multi. So it might compile on ARM but it's essentially unoptimised.
Some of my optimisations for X86_64 may have been imported but won't work on ARM.


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: Nennan on November 23, 2022, 12:58:36 AM
Like I said, ARM support was in delgon cpuminer-gr repo. It had some changes so it compiled fine on ARM, not like improvements, more like compatibility.
I also never even noticed raptoreum github had cpuminer repo it was never linked anywhere so I did not scan every single repo they had on their GitHub account. All links on the site and given to ppl on discord were from the dev repo in the beginning. After some time they were switched to Wyvern repo with current cpuminer-gr-avx2


Title: Re: Posting about new miner
Post by: FP91G on November 23, 2022, 08:47:54 AM
Hello,
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I want to post here but if legit devs are being banned without any explanation or info about it, it is kinda discouraging xD
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