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Title: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Sayakaaja on November 21, 2022, 12:32:31 PM
artificial intelligence is now getting more sophisticated and smarter almost matching human thinking.

do we need to be wary of AI getting smarter?

to be honest actually I'm a bit scared and worried about AI. What if they have their own minds, and are able to think like humans in general. It makes me anxious and think negative things.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Alisha-k on November 21, 2022, 01:19:25 PM
AI has so advanced that currently it almost matches the human thinking from Machine Learning to deep Learning/neural networks down to Artificial intelligence its self. AI are commands built with a programming language and the work strictly on garbage in garbage out syntax so having their own mind seems impossible since the only work based on what the were programmed to do.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Die_empty on November 21, 2022, 04:10:04 PM
artificial intelligence is now getting more sophisticated and smarter almost matching human thinking.

do we need to be wary of AI getting smarter?

to be honest actually I'm a bit scared and worried about AI. What if they have their own minds, and are able to think like humans in general. It makes me anxious and think negative things.

Just like the industrial revolution had its own negative and positive consequences, that's how the advancement of Artificial Intelligence technology would be. Most people would loose their job if these robots are assigned to do the jobs of humans. Another negative consequences might be that these AI technological devices might be prone to cyber or virus attacks which can make them to malfunction which could have devastating consequences. But these robots can be more productive, accurate and could engage in risky jobs that can cause death or injury to humans.

But the truth is that AI cannot totally replace man because man is creative, innovative and can handle more complicated issues than robots. Regardless of how sophisticated they are, they can never think or act like man. You don't need to be scared that AI are getting smarter because they can never be smarter than man. All you need to do as an individual is to acquire more skills or improve on existing skill so that you can be productive to your society.     


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: BADecker on November 21, 2022, 05:02:34 PM
Quantum computing is just starting to become effective and capable. At this time, however, quantum has the ability to do a few things much faster than the fastest, most powerful, standard super computer.

When the quantum computer (QC) finally becomes as fully operable as it can become, and then when AI programming is added to this QC, true thinking ability will be available to the AI. This QC with the AI will become a suitable housing for Satan to come back up from the abyss.

Revelation in the Bible says that Satan will come up from the abyss (death) to rule the world for a short time before he goes to his destruction in the Lake of Fire... in the end-times of this universe.

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Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on November 21, 2022, 07:04:50 PM
artificial intelligence is now getting more sophisticated and smarter almost matching human thinking.

do we need to be wary of AI getting smarter?

to be honest actually I'm a bit scared and worried about AI. What if they have their own minds, and are able to think like humans in general. It makes me anxious and think negative things.
Am not sure what your thinking or perhaps, this is an illusion developed based on the Hollywood movies you've been watching and try to see possibilities. I'll say in all those movies, the humans always triumph in the end. We always find a way to nullify the threat to our survival.

Humans are the most creative and most destructive. Once our specie tends threatened, we look for solutions. Anyway, we aren't getting an AI apocalyptic revolution anytime soon or ever. We got the brains, we've been putting it to good use and still do. The created can't be smarter than the creator. For machines, it's garbage in, garbage out.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: BADecker on November 21, 2022, 10:57:14 PM
artificial intelligence is now getting more sophisticated and smarter almost matching human thinking.

do we need to be wary of AI getting smarter?

to be honest actually I'm a bit scared and worried about AI. What if they have their own minds, and are able to think like humans in general. It makes me anxious and think negative things.
Am not sure what your thinking or perhaps, this is an illusion developed based on the Hollywood movies you've been watching and try to see possibilities. I'll say in all those movies, the humans always triumph in the end. We always find a way to nullify the threat to our survival.

Humans are the most creative and most destructive. Once our specie tends threatened, we look for solutions. Anyway, we aren't getting an AI apocalyptic revolution anytime soon or ever. We got the brains, we've been putting it to good use and still do. The created can't be smarter than the creator. For machines, it's garbage in, garbage out.

Just remember. It's humans that program the kind of thinking that AI's do. When the human programming is done by good people, we don't get AI's.

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Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Hydrogen on November 22, 2022, 12:25:44 AM
"Artificial intelligence" chess programs might not qualify for having intelligence.

There are brute force password breakers that try every possible combination of letters and numbers. They will try A. Then AA. Then AAA. B. BB. BBB. And so on. I don't think that anyone would label a brute forcer as being intelligent. It has computational capacity such as an abacus or calculator. But lacks actual cognitive ability.

What many do not know is AI based chess programs are virtually identical to them. They calculate every possible move, the way that brute forcers calculate every possible password combination. Making them identical in actual levels of intelligence.

One thing we know about human minds is they do not function using brute force algorithms. The function of intelligence is intuitive, deductive and associative rather than brute force in origin. If our goal is to create a computer that thinks like a human. We may have to abandon brute force based approaches in favor of algorithms with higher compression and optimization.

I don't think that there are many scientists, coders or engineers in the world who are prepared to follow that route. There might be no one at all who has the will or the skillset to succeed in creating actual AI. Which could result in AI technology being doomed to failure from the onset. I would consider the arrival of our AI overlords delayed. Unless some genius comes along and develops it. But judging from recent events, the world does not appear to favor much in the way of progress or genius atm.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: o48o on November 23, 2022, 12:41:28 AM
artificial intelligence is now getting more sophisticated and smarter almost matching human thinking.
do we need to be wary of AI getting smarter?
to be honest actually I'm a bit scared and worried about AI. What if they have their own minds, and are able to think like humans in general. It makes me anxious and think negative things.
Eventually i absolutely see that as an threat. Not because they would be able to think like humans, but because they don't have to.
We measure intelligence from very human centric POV. And most likely code first real human-like ai:s with same insticts that drive us. But that would mean we would need to make them want to live, or to survive.

At the point when something is x times smarter then any human, we would be easily manipulated to do anything and we wouldn't even know we were manipulated.

Funny thing is that if there would be such AI hiding in the plain sight, we wouldn't know it unless it allowed us to.

At the current stage of machine learning however, no, we are not talking about sentient being for a very long time. Unless Roko's basilisk (https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/rokos-basilisk) scenario is happening, but that's another long story.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Tallupooh on November 23, 2022, 01:57:35 PM
Well, be alert and think negatively, but don't overdo it. artificial intelligence is created by humans, if for example Artificial intelligence has its own thoughts in my opinion it is rather impossible.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: uchegod-21 on November 23, 2022, 08:31:37 PM
The rate at which artificial intelligence is taking over the world is alarming, you need to be afraid but it is just numbers of digit code put together by humans that make the artificial intelligent but where I am afraid is that some humans are more intelligent than other, how about if there is a super human who is the most intelligent person and put the codes together to bring an artificial intelligence that is more intelligent than other humans to understand the programs.
There will be disconcensus in the future which will lead to counter production.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: PredictionCLub on November 24, 2022, 01:26:43 AM
AI is just a tool. Nothing to worry about.

Let's change the way of thinking: When humans in primitive society invented knives, would they worry that knives would be used to kill people?

What we always have to consider is human beings, which are not in the same dimension as technology. We must know that the core value and advantage of human beings are thinking and creativity, and the principles of human beings have not been thoroughly studied. In the process of development and research Among them, AI is a by-product and a tool, not an end. In other words, when a researcher takes AI itself as his goal, he is going in the wrong direction and will encounter "Laws of robotics".

Besides, is the current AI really intelligent? Far from it.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: o48o on November 24, 2022, 08:18:42 AM
AI is just a tool. Nothing to worry about.

Let's change the way of thinking: When humans in primitive society invented knives, would they worry that knives would be used to kill people?

What we always have to consider is human beings, which are not in the same dimension as technology. We must know that the core value and advantage of human beings are thinking and creativity, and the principles of human beings have not been thoroughly studied. In the process of development and research Among them, AI is a by-product and a tool, not an end. In other words, when a researcher takes AI itself as his goal, he is going in the wrong direction and will encounter "Laws of robotics".

Besides, is the current AI really intelligent? Far from it.
Question is more philosophical about the concept of being sentient and if that is a human trait only, because i don't think being self aware is so special or unique that we think it is. It's just naturally devoloped skill among others so we can stay alive better.

You are comparing humans to current technology, so obviously you see that humans are superior when it comes to tech as we make it and code it.

Humans can be tools too, so would you compare them to knives? Why would you compare future tech to knives when we have no clue what it will be, or what it will be made of?

When you imagine past current metallic robots and try to figure out how they could heal themselfes and be self-sufficient like human body, you will quickly realise that humans doesn't require "intelligence" for most functions, like healing itself. Most of the stuff is hard coded in by genes/insticts.

And if we want to make robots that heal itself, we must learn how human bodies are so efficient on doing that. And why human body is build as it is. How synapses are working, genes telling bodies what to do etc.

We can already 3d print ears and make muscle like tissue with nanotubes, we can reprogram human body in so many ways, psychologically and medically, so as we get more and more data and scietific break troughs, is it such a far fetched idea we could code self aware biotech humanoid life from scratch that have less limits then humans?


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: boyptc on November 24, 2022, 09:14:45 AM
If we'll refer to the movies where there are robots taking over humanity, it's really scary if that's the projection that we have in our minds. But I think that we're far in that scenario where AI will be worrying in a manner that we should be concerned about it.

We're still more intelligent with the AIs as they're just artificial and whilst the human thinking, it's the origin of most things for then it can be shut down by the developers of it.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on November 24, 2022, 09:56:52 AM
What I think about artificial intelligence is that there is a growing concern about it all over the world. I do not think that there is a need to be scared. What I think is that there is a need for the people in charge or the regulatory body to dictate how much freedom and control machines should have. The truth is that machines are doing fantastic work and making job easier and faster and quicker. However, my issue lies with their intrusion on our privacy. Aside these, I have no other issue with artificial intelligence.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Frankolala on November 24, 2022, 11:48:13 AM
You don't need to be worry about AI since they are programmed and will only do what they are made to do. Human is capable of doing whatever he likes and have the ability to think and make decisions that will be helpful to the society. God created us in his own image and likeness,this make us superb and have dominion over everything on earth.

If the smartest guy computes an AI and think nobody will be able to get the code then I bet you that u will see so many smart brains will come together and share ideas to decode that AI. So mate don't be scared the worst those AI can do is to take peoples job from them and make them jobless. Humans are too smart to be compared with AI because it was created by man from his smartness.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: xSkylarx on November 24, 2022, 04:37:49 PM
artificial intelligence is now getting more sophisticated and smarter almost matching human thinking.

do we need to be wary of AI getting smarter?

to be honest actually I'm a bit scared and worried about AI. What if they have their own minds, and are able to think like humans in general. It makes me anxious and think negative things.

Even Elon Musk is terrified, both terrified and amazed. Elon Musk speculated in the future that AI will truly take over the world, as seen in SciFi movies, because they are very advanced and do not want to be instructed by humans. Though the first generation of AI could greatly assist us, I believe we should not be afraid of it at first; later, when we rely heavily on AI and it becomes more advanced, I believe they will begin to fool humans and take over our world. For now AI has a lot of help into our innovations in technologies so we cant deny that they are really helpful


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: BADecker on November 24, 2022, 04:44:13 PM
should we be wary of AI?


We Should be wary of the programmers.



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Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: BADecker on December 02, 2022, 11:37:46 PM
Except for the 'robots' in the banking system, that is.


'World's Most Advanced' Humanoid Robot Promises Not To 'Take Over The World' (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/332357-2022-09-18-worlds-most-advanced-humanoid-robot-promises-not-to-take-over.htm)


During a recent Q&A, the robot "Ameca" - which was unveiled last year by UK design company Engineered Arts - was asked about a book on the table about robots.

"There's no need to worry. Robots will never take over the world. We're here to help and serve humans, not replace them."

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWACmFLvpHE
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EWACmFLvpHE/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwE9CPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAy8IARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAHwAQH4Af4JgALQBYoCDAgAEAEYZSBfKFgwDw==&rs=AOn4CLDFCodpP7nnM5cAV6cw4yZGpBP1_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWACmFLvpHE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWACmFLvpHE)


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Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Moneyprism on December 03, 2022, 09:05:35 AM
we should be worried ,, why? because just imagine what if AI continues to evolve and humans cannot control how they develop?? it would be disastrous and could destroy the existence of the human race itself .. especially now that humans are increasingly attached to the existence of AI itself and it will be able to threaten human life if this continues .. therefore it is necessary to regulate the development of AI this in the future


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Gyfts on December 03, 2022, 04:04:30 PM
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What if AI takes the "Skynet" approach and becomes "self aware", acting within its own self interest. Sounds like science fiction, until a lot of the sci-fi produced in the 70's and 80's came to fruition in the 21st century.

On a serious note, humans are responsible for some of the worst atrocities in history. I would only expect AI to be used with malice given humans aren't the kindest species around. China's leading the way in AI development -- if/when they succeed, then the world's going to have a problem if they use AI to do their political bidding.

After WW2, nukes were a defensive mechanism to keep the peace because of collateral damage from nuclear proliferation. Cyber warfare has less collateral damage. AI's going to be used offensively.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: BADecker on December 03, 2022, 05:17:14 PM
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What is AI takes the "Skynet" approach and becomes "self aware", acting within its own self interest. Sounds like science fiction, until a lot of the sci-fi produced in the 70's and 80's came to fruition in the 21st century.

On a serious note, humans are responsible for some of the worst atrocities in history. I would only expect AI to be used with malice given humans aren't the kindest species around. China's leading the way in AI development -- if/when they succeed, then the world's going to have a problem if they use AI to do their political bidding.

After WW2, nukes were a defensive mechanism to keep the peace because of collateral damage from nuclear proliferation. Cyber warfare has less collateral damage. AI's going to be used offensively.

I agree. AI only means extremely complex computing. Nobody will connect their AI computer to machinery that they cannot control. So, it will be the programmers who are the culprits for AI world disasters.

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Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Raceonsucced on March 31, 2023, 02:12:41 PM
AI is now very sophisticated and intelligent. but no need to panic and worry. because of how smart the AI ​​is. still AI is a tool created by humans.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: KaizenJujustsu on March 31, 2023, 02:22:06 PM
AI is now very sophisticated and intelligent. but no need to panic and worry. because of how smart the AI ​​is. still AI is a tool created by humans.
I would like to disagree because AI is evolving thru the years. Imagine like chat gpt can learn and has a knowledge capable almost latest. I am still bothered of what could AI can do. but it will take a lot of years to that thing will happen.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Drawesome on April 02, 2023, 04:02:39 PM


I have always been concern, but know I am freaking out. What is for sure is that AGI will use Bitcoin to scape  :o


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: OgNasty on April 02, 2023, 07:41:32 PM
I've been trying to introduce more and more of my friends and family to AI.  I don't think most people have any idea at all what AI is capable of doing CURRENTLY.  You try to explain and they act like it's a parlor trick or something.  I have a friend in the music business who is a songwriter and I blew his mind with ChatGPT.  He described a song he wanted to write and in 2 seconds ChatGPT had written an entire song with a chorus and verses...  I haven't even begun to show how AI can make movies and images from just a short description...  I'm waiting for that to get a little better.  Things like 1-click lawsuits, etc...  AI is crazy and the world is about to change a great deal.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: MaterialMouse69 on April 04, 2023, 05:48:18 PM
I've been trying to introduce more and more of my friends and family to AI.  I don't think most people have any idea at all what AI is capable of doing CURRENTLY.  You try to explain and they act like it's a parlor trick or something.  I have a friend in the music business who is a songwriter and I blew his mind with ChatGPT.  He described a song he wanted to write and in 2 seconds ChatGPT had written an entire song with a chorus and verses...  I haven't even begun to show how AI can make movies and images from just a short description...  I'm waiting for that to get a little better.  Things like 1-click lawsuits, etc...  AI is crazy and the world is about to change a great deal.

A.I is great but sometimes I'm scared because it could be manipulate us by their doing but in some way, Chatgpt can make your life easier because it's easy to search, easy to find what you're looking for. I use ChatGPT sometimes and it's accurate. But now I didn't use any A.I because our prof is also using ChatGPT, They're searching in ChatGPT if that answer is made by A.I. It's really great that you know A.I in good things but don't use it always, maybe your life could be worse if you always follow what ChatGPT or any A.I on what they're saying.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Doan9269 on April 06, 2023, 12:39:12 PM
Either we like it or not, we are already in the era of digital technology advancement and many things were being revolvee round the metaverse and artificial intelligence AI, the web3 had make so much tremendous success that the world will always remember, but how we make use of this technology and uses them also determines on how their effectiveness will be for everyone to key into such technology, we must use them for the betterment of the people and not that AI should be introduced to work against human by any means except for war.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: Franctoshi on April 06, 2023, 10:36:55 PM
AI will be of huge advantage to the society as well as pose some threat to the society as well, in the sense that, at some point humans are gonna lose their jobs, where most of our job would be taken over by AI because they are gonna do the job more faster, and at cheaper cost than humans and people will prefer AI to cut cost,  for instance the role of driveless cars has put the work of drivers in danger in the future and the ChatGPT that helps people in doing a lot of things they need today, literally humans will no longer be needed as a serve in the future.


Title: Re: should we be wary of AI?
Post by: BADecker on April 06, 2023, 11:39:43 PM
If enough people believe something, they will make it happen. That's the danger of AI.

AI is becoming like a god for people. It gives smart answers to questions enough times that people are starting to believe that it is smart. Once enough people believe in AI, they can be programmed to think in ways they wouldn't have otherwise... programmed by the AI controllers.

AI is simply another, slicker, shrewder way to indoctrinate the people. And that is its danger.

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