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I have been playing online live blackjack on casinos long time ago and had so many crazy games and moments, i never doubted that the casino will ever try to manipulate things out since we all know that with the long run the dealer has more chances to win. But since i saw this video on tiktok were it shows an obvious cheating from a casino which i don't know or even accuse since maybe the video is made up. But it's also making me think of all the games i lost for example happened to me getting 21 not as a blackjack pair. The dealer have like a 4 then gets also a 21 in a very weird way and for multiple times in one session.
All i want to say is maybe many casinos did cheat in this way that are shown in the video before, i want you to share your thoughts about this and also if you ever catched a casino cheat in blackjack games?
I uploaded the video to YouTube: https://youtu.be/OWCXhcJoaF0 (https://youtu.be/OWCXhcJoaF0)

Here we go again with 1xbit shit posters! You didn't even read or understand my topic how could you reply to my topic. Beside this is a thread or a topic not a post while Scam Accusations is a section.
I didn't accuse anyone i just want to talk about what i saw in the video and if there's people that ever felt that sometimes blackjack games are being manipulated

Well, honestly, to catch an online casino cheating their customer(s) in a blackjack game will require a great amount of attention to details from the player, and you will agree with me that one of the virtues gamblers lack is patience and time, a gambler hardly have the patience or time required to monitor the game closely for possible cheats.

I personally have never caught any casino cheating on blackjack, but this is not to say that i trust all the casinos I've played blackjack on not to cheat, if they cheated, I wouldn't know, because as I explained above, i usually just play without paying much attention to the details of the game, what I know I mostly do is that, if a play on a casino for a while or a period of time and didn't win, and that seems odd to me, I move to another casino, for me, its as simple as that.


Try to read posts before posting comments, this comment of yours really shows you didn't even read the OP but just went ahead to comment based on the subject of the topic, OP isn't accusing any casino in particular of scam.

Not the first time in a live black jack game that the dealer or the casinos have been caught cheating.

https://img.youtube.com/vi/7PGasgpAJ1o/0.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PGasgpAJ1o)

Not sure if it is prevalent, but some casinos have been caught red handed. Maybe they try to stay away from cheating their customers. But there could still be casinos out there that is going to pull this stunt.

I agree with you most of us we play to spend some good time and chill so the important thing we focus on is our card numbers only, that’s why i said i have been playing long time ago but i never even thought about that casinos can do such things because they have those smart kind of tables where more cards can appear just beside the cards pot where there dealers meant to pull the cards. I searched more about this method of cheating casinos are using and found more evidence about it where they also hunt players with big amount of money. It’s sad since you can’t even do anything when you get manipulated.
I hope it’s will be also a warning if someone spotted such casinos doing that better to boycott that casino

It might possible but I believed that's not always the case at most gambling platforms.

To minimize being fucked up with that situation you are so worried about, just try to limit your circle of options to those reputable and popular casinos that offer live online blackjack with the support of popular game providers. These game providers that are partnered with gambling sites should be supposed to be fair.

It's hard to determine whether they are manipulating things but at least it's worth taking a risk if you will just play online blackjack at reputable gambling casinos as I'm sure their game providers won't ruin their reputation that was being built for long as that might affect their business.

When playing a card we are fully concentrated on our card that we give little attention to small details like hand gestures, if we have doubts about the casino where we are playing it's better to have someone look at the dealer's hands or a screen recorder to record the shuffling of the card, an ounce of prevention is better once you establish if the casino you're playing is cheating on you then its better to move in a better casino but you should catch them as early as possible.

These live platforms are often audited so I guess there aren't that much platforms that are cheating against their players. It will be the start of suspicion and the start of them losing players little by little. A single hint of them not being trustworthy is enough for a lot of players to bail out and go somewhere else. Perhaps that incident you mentioned is just a coincidence, but if you have a valid proof that these guys are cheating you, then head over to Scam Accusations board and post a formal complaint alongside any proofs you may have there.

Nothing you can do about it as in the first place, we can't even detect or realized that there's something wrong happening in the live game.

You have 2 choices:

- Play at famous gambling sites that you think won't do something unusual to manipulate the live games
- Play at physical casinos and see to yourself the actual doings of the dealer

Or if you don't like these choices, stop playing online blackjack for good.

that is very correct. because if a known or reputable casino is doing such kind of cheating, someone will always notice it or complain about it. so do you think the casino is willing to ruin their image by this simple cheating from their live games? because for sure, someone will publish the anomaly especially if the player has lost big time.
and if you are in doubt and you're not happy, as you said, don't play the game. because at the back of your mind, you are always cheated by the casino even if it is not, and you won't have peace of mind thinking about it.

Online casinos can do this. And I think not only blackjack the others can also do this. But there are many others casinos and you can choose anyone.

If you think that it has scammed and you think it can do this again with you so honestly you can go out and can choose another. Because there are many others.

I want to see the full video, I don't think to take a conclusion with the edited video. It's better to show up the video from dealing the card to end of the game without any editing as well.

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For this case, the people who are playing on this table/casino is stupid. You want to know why?
- Random/Uknown Casino
- Shitty scanner
- Bad mic & video
- Huge card? what the f*ck is that.

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If you think is weird getting 21 just because dealers has 4, everything can happen on gambling. There always has some chance bro, go search video from XPOSED playing blackjack: https://youtu.be/SZRjUKrvBkI?t=1246 watch here

He got a miss click hitting 20, guess what? AS came out and make it 21. From that scenario, everything can happen. If dealer always get 20,21,21 and go on that's mean the table is on dealer side. Why you keep playing on that table? set the limit lose or change the table.

I have seen a lot of those videos, but i haven't see one of the most common providers, you know, the tables that we can see in sites like Stake or Roobet. I think some of them cheat and some others doesn't do it. Its about the game provider.

But i feel like you, is really weird to see how the dealer keeps getting 20's and 21's while we bust all the way. Sometimes i feel that just i have a terrible luck, but other times it makes me feel like I'm paying in a rigged game.

There has some reason, why the deck is on "dealer side".

Everythings is normal, however sometime the player playing with you is stupid they don't know to play with Basic Strategy & most the time scared to not play optimal. What is optimal? is playing by the book. Example like, Dealer have 10 and some player have 12-16 he stand against 10 not hitting. In long term, is gonna give us really bad deck (Even, If we lose playing with basic strategy & optimal are not gonna to make other people mad).

Casino don't need to cheat deal the card, they already cheated and make sure they're in winning because "House edge". That's always how the casino win.

Well, a great trick on the part of the casino dealer, which is called watch your hands, it's a pity that the author of the video does not specify the name of the online casino, perhaps because the video is also fake, to attract subscribers. :)

But you have to show proof if you are really that decided and if you're sure that they are really cheating. Bottomline is, we are in online platform so that would be hard unless they made a mistake which showed their 'trick'. Some people will even say that you just cannot accept losing. Well it is a part of the game but you'd know if there is really something wrong from the game. My take on this is leaving from a specific gambling site but if same things would happen over different gambling platforms, maybe it is not just your day or the game itself is not for you. Choose something that you would enjoy playing. Or even try playing other games if you are having a feeling of being cheated to somehow ease your mood. With regards to the video, but given that no names were dropped, they won't be able to defend themselves if they are really caught, so it is hard to validate that one.

I don’t understand the cheat in the video you provided, can you explain what he did? The video the @Baofeng shared is the one popular cheat by the dealer which is switching cards because they knew exactly what’s the card on the shoe due to the chip connected on the cards. Only mediocre software provider do this because popular live games provider is very careful when it comes to dealing with cards.

I have some experience on this kind of shady outcome on blackjack from evolution gaming. On classic table, I always encounter a random player joining my table when I’m on win streak then do crazy decision making such as hitting at 19 or splitting pair of 20 then the result is dealer always get 21 just because of this dumb action of random player. I think sometimes casino injecting bot player just to destroy the flow pf the cards in case players is on win streak base on the current card arrangement on shoe deck.

Yes, if I'm not mistaken, one casino here has been accused of them, colluding in some tables, specially in poker or blackjack.

But it's just accusation and I don't know what happen to that case, but here, hard to see in the video, maybe the dealer has switch the card or some other trick that we are not aware of. In any case, we should always be careful and be attentive, just like in that video wherein it was clear as daylight that there was switch done by the dealer and you can see his reaction before he pull that stunt live.

I think that's because they think it was online and no one can see them closely but they didn't know that some people still caught their modus. All gambling games can possibly be cheated if the casino is not honest. That is why it's important to be picky and always check the reputation of the casino that we want to play.

Maybe the op should tell the name of the casino that he is playing with, so that people here can start avoiding it in case some of us are playing there and we don't suspect them because we think constant losses are still normal but there's also casino who are only selectively scamming their players like for example 1xbit/1xbet.

I doubt they will make it too obvious for their customers to know they are cheating. And, you won't even win if you try to retaliate about what you saw or whatever you feel is happening. (cheating) Their customer support will always just shrug it off and will ask for proof first.

Although I know the rules of blackjack I never really played it but I played the high or low game and I always felt like the system is trying to cheat. The winning chance is too low, maybe 2 of 10.
Example like the last card was a Queen so the next one has a higher chance to be a lower card, but to my surprise, the next card will be King.  ;D
But, I never went to customer support just to say that. All I did was stop playing it and find another game that would make me think it is fairer than the first one.

This is my assessment of what you did, If I look at the title of the topic you did dude, you show that you are accusing blackjack of being a scam.

Now when I watched the youtube video, I'm also not sure if the return of the card is what you are saying that it was fraudulent? because first, I don't play blackjack either so I'm not familiar with this game, it may be true that many casinos do scams, but even though most gamblers know that, they still continue to gamble.

So if you're a gambler and you know there's a scam going on, why would you continue to gamble if you know you're going to lose, right?

I have never played blackjack games online I thought it would be difficult for them. The owner of the gambling site would play cheating, but logically of course the house won't let you win either, but if the game is done unfairly, of course, it's not random people who use such techniques. definitely trained to work on that gambling site, online and offline I think it's the same there is no difference, I prefer to play with football bets than playing blackjack online

I'm not too sure about this, I rarely play Blackjack. maybe only a few times, when I get bored with other types of betting games. however, in my opinion this game is no different from the game Baccarat, and I prefer this type of Baccarat game. if you only see and refer only to this tiktok source, what's more, this video only lasts a matter of seconds. and not necessarily certain, this video is in an actual casino.

I replayed the video that you shared more than 50 times. there was a slight discrepancy, then I tried to compare it with some of the videos on the YouTube channel. there are some differences from the style. my conclusion, this tiktok video is the result of engineering. however, if only the video on tiktok was true. you can do some experiments and document them. then you can study it and analyze it from video editing.

however, personally I don't think the casino will do dirty tricks like the example from the tiktok video you shared. in particular, our favorite casinos, because they have a reputation to rely on. and if there are things that smell of cheating, we will automatically get defeated in a short time. however, I have never experienced that throughout my experience playing at the Stakecom casino

like ryzaadit, I'd like to see the full video too. although I see what the problem you are trying to show us(and I am leaning toward that something fishy is going on) it's still quite hard to make a decision base on an edited video alone.

BetOnline.ag is not really an "unknown" or a "random" casino. as far as I know they have been around for a long time, and I am not sure what having a huge card has to do with anything.

You sure?

Off course huge card is the problem as well, why need to have huge card while they just can customize a normal card with scanner barcode. You don't know what they're doing with customized card by them self.

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I already discovery the video.

The video is not from @OP experience, I watching the original video from Youtuber called "KUMBARA" & the video is belong to him : https://www.tiktok.com/@kumbaracasino/video/7151741661541043502?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=6954766166129378818

From what I can see from the original, it's just a glitch video (Could be potential because he playing with the mobile version or the scanning light ups during he scan the card). How the glitch deal happened not just at the time dealer is dealing his card but the player have the same glitch video so all same.

yeah

I mean, they might be accommodating for people with visual impairment, so the numbers can be easily seen on the screen, etc... but I do understand your concern.

I think this could be it(check the image below), he also has several videos of his blackjack session on his youtube channel in the same casino with the same dealer and the same thing is happening.

https://i.imgur.com/hq1xJzW.png

you can clearly see in this image how the scanner lights up. also, watching the video OP showed again you can also clearly see that the scanner lights up too. anyway, the dealer is entertaining as hell.

Yeah, I’m using evolution gaming and I really like the way there dealers distribute card to players. They are slow when getting the new card out of the deck and scanning it but quick when giving it to player. They are also continuously talking to players who use the chat to communicate with them and this is a good sign that they are genuine because shady live games provider can use recorded screen to alter the result of the game without noticing it.

I remember I play on not well known provider and lose 20 hands in a row without a win. There’s no way or very rare for that to happened on a real game but it happened to them with there magic shoe deck. 

There is no relationship between the deal & provider casino.

Every deal style & communication always depends on the dealer itself, unless you're playing with "Privet Room" you can request fast or slow deal for the game. It's not a good sign they communicate with the player, that's how they is being trained.

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You can win 20 a row, you can lose 20 row. Keep in mind, previous lost is not gonna to increase your chance to win for the next bet. If you gambling with 50% chance win and losing a few game, next game you're gambling still 50% chance win.

Curiosity is certainly the most detrimental disease for gamblers, they will continue to try to find excuses and opportunities to win bets even though they have to lose many times at the same table. But unbeknownst to them, they have to leave without any win and go bankrupt. This is almost the same as when I lose a dice game, consecutive losses make me even more curious to make the next bet until my balance is completely used up.

Sometimes changing tables is the reason why luck is found in blackjack or any game based on luck. So I'm not really sure if it's some kind of scam or something, but there's always a possibility for things like this.

No i didn’t accuse the whole game to be a scam sorry if my title was confusing but what i meant is one specific scam that is going on with some online casinos with live blackjack game, the video shows a card appeared from the table (new card) that’s not inside the pot from where he should take a random card so obviously the cheating system is choosing cards for the deal to be in favor of the casino. Yes people are gambling because we also know that not all people lose. Sometimes we may win big

I have been playing blackjack in different casinos but I'm glad that I haven't experienced such a situation. Maybe some casinos could cheat on that game but I don't think highly reputable casinos would do that. If you're doubting a certain casino site, you better switch to trusted and reputable casinos where you could play confidently and would be able to enjoy the entire game without doubts. Confusions may exist often times so for your peace of mind, look for a credible casino site that provides fairplay.

I totally agree with that assessment. I myself am very picky about where I play and which casinos I trust. And just from a single glance at the unprofessional quality of the entire setup there are many warning signs that people should have picked up on before even joining the table. Next time they should pick a trustworthy, provably audited casino with a long and outstanding reputation.

This is basically the gamblers equivalent of falling for the Indian tech support scam. Do a little research, otherwise your money is not all that important to you and you should not whine about getting scammed if you ignore the red flags. ::)

It's funny, you responding old message but not following the latest discussion about the topic you're bringing.

Me and some other user already comment about these, it's a light scanner. The scanner turn-on everytime scanning the card, you can see on the other video with a same dealer from the youtube is recording.

In every video is like that.

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Not curiosity.

Most people 90% of the gambler think, the more we lose the more we have a chance to win. They don't realize, If you playing with 50:50% chance of winning (Example you playing dice), and you got lose streak 5-10.

Doesn't matter how much lose you got, your chance win still 50:50 nothing change and there is no relationship between the lose you got. THA'T THE MOST MISTAKE GAMBLER ALL THE TIME.

Sorry mate i just got some time to read all the replies since i have been busy and i didn’t think this topic will get much attention as it turned to be many gamblers fan of live blackjack
Thank you for the clarification about what i saw in the video and it’s 100% the table scanner once the dealer passes his hands from it the light appears and looks like a card showing up while it’s not. And the reason i believed that tiktok video because i have been playing only on Evolution blackjack tables and their scanner never have that glitch beside what i have seen with free bet blackjack if you saw their tables before where the cards can show and disappear under the table….. what made me think believe that video more

But this video that our friend Baofeng shared with us can’t be a glitch too, Lol it’s so funny how the dealer made that snake move
https://img.youtube.com/vi/7PGasgpAJ1o/0.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PGasgpAJ1o)

You have a good point here and i think I agree with you, I personally is a victim to this believe or should i say mindset, I have always thought that while playing games like dice, keno, crash, just about any casino game, that the more i loose, the higher the chance to win the next round, which most times, I don't win until am out of funds, And this also explains why the martingale strategy most times end in disaster for most gambler, most especially the unlucky ones.
This is something every gambler should know, i think it will help us become better gamblers.

would love to see a video of this happening, would you mind sharing it if you can?

no one is saying that this one is a glitch too, I mean, it is pretty clear what happened. betonline.ag also addressed this issue in the past when it went viral and they stopped collaborating with that "third-party Vendor", they also said to contact them if there are people who felt that they were cheated by the dealer.

check here for the whole article
https://professionalrakeback.com/betonline-blackjackgate

avoid any unknown / not trusted casino.
it's simple and easy. some of these tricks are very evident :( it means they are ready to scam people with the minimum effort possible.
In this kind of site, I have some doubts it is achievable just a minimum withdraw!

No need to question the video you're mentioning.

I have already spoken as well for this one, is clearly pure dumb on the player as well
The card is custom from the casino with a zero or unknown credibility, we are gambler ready to lose but doesn't mean to be stupid while you're losing the money. Sometime be smart.

There's two parts to what you've said that need to be deconstructed: Yes it is perfectly possible for casinos to cheat in the manner you describe, but by the very nature of the odds being slanted in their direction you are bound to see more periods of time when they are winners, often many times in a row. If you feel something is "off" in any way, you should definitely leave the casino and simply accept any prior losses - don't lose more as their are abusers like this and you can never prove it. Secondly, many people after bad losses can only think in one mindset - that of the casino being a cheat - and will seek out any kind of "evidence" that they can find which will support that theory while simply ignoring anything else presented around them, a sort of self validation spiral.

If it is a live online blackjack casino, then yes, there are several ways they can cheat and the players will never know. They can make use of the camera angle to deceive people and people are never going to realize it. They can do thing off frame and no one will be able to accuse them of anything. I always wonder why they do something like this... Why risk their reputation while in the long run they can always be making some good profit. Greed maybe? But is it worth it?