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Title: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: dimonstration on November 22, 2022, 10:32:18 AM
I知 dealing with this thoughts most of the time not because of the money I知 losing but due to my religion. I知 aware that gambling is a bad thing to do base on the bible but the scenario there was people is gambling using the money that they need for there family or they are already addicted on gambling that cause them to change there life into messed.

On my scenario, I知 only gambling using my free money and provide money for my family regularly with same amount that we need. I never fail to provide money because I only gamble what I知 willing to risk although I知 just being haunted by my losses if I sum it all and imagine what can I do on it if ever I didn稚 gamble it.

I知 still gambling although my inner me always regret what I知 doing after. The happiness that I get when gambling always greater to my guilt which is why I can keep on this setup.

Anyway back on point. I know that this is being discussed many times but in your personal opinion not the general post shit. Is gambling unethical? Please answer only base on your personal experience and scenario because I want to see if people like me struggling too when it comes to handling faith and gambling.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: swogerino on November 22, 2022, 10:36:35 AM
I知 dealing with this thoughts most of the time not because of the money I知 losing but due to my religion. I知 aware that gambling is a bad thing to do base on the bible but the scenario there was people is gambling using the money that they need for there family or they are already addicted on gambling that cause them to change there life into messed.

On my scenario, I知 only gambling using my free money and provide money for my family regularly with same amount that we need. I never fail to provide money because I only gamble what I知 willing to risk although I知 just being haunted by my losses if I sum it all and imagine what can I do on it if ever I didn稚 gamble it.

I知 still gambling although my inner me always regret what I知 doing after. The happiness that I get when gambling always greater to my guilt which is why I can keep on this setup.

Anyway back on point. I know that this is being discussed many times but in your personal opinion not the general post shit. Is gambling unethical? Please answer only base on your personal experience and scenario because I want to see if people like me struggling too when it comes to handling faith and gambling.

I don't consider it unethical personally as as long as you have great self control and play only with money you can afford to lose I see nothing wrong here or unethical.It surely can degrade really soon and going from ethical to unethical in a lightning fast move once you become addicted and cannot stop gambling.You only think about it at the point it becomes an obsession and you don't care about your family,work or any social life that you may risk if continue to do so.
Now it becomes much worse than unethical,it becomes a disease which is difficult to recover.

My personal experience is that I have huge self control so for me is no problem gambling nor unethical.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on November 22, 2022, 10:44:07 AM
No, it is not unethical. The things that certain gamblers do are unethical, but gambling is not.

If you steal money from your relatives after you have lost in order to continue stealing, that is unethical. If you gamble behind your wife's back and even ask for personal loans to finance your vice without her knowing about it, that is unethical.

We could talk about whether the fact of being a gambling addict could make us consider the person who commits unethical acts less guilty, but it does not free him from all guilt.



Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Oshosondy on November 22, 2022, 10:56:19 AM
It depends. Gambling is ethical if you do it responsibly, but if you do it the other way, got addicted, it is not good for you.

I’m aware that gambling is a bad thing to do base on the bible
There is no where in bible that talked about gambling, you can only regard that to Quran, bible only talks about the love of money to be the root of evil. Bible schoolers believe that gambling can be a means to love of money, but gambling is not listed as a sin in the bible.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: noorman0 on November 22, 2022, 11:12:27 AM
I知 dealing with this thoughts most of the time not because of the money I知 losing but due to my religion.

Certainly unethical from a certain religious point of view, and linking it with remorse makes that opinion even stronger.
What if you changed your mindset? I don't mean to be against religious opinion, just an exception for myself. I have said many times (despite other users disagreeing) that I gamble to lose, more precisely I pay to enjoy the entertainment that casinos provide. If I have lets say $10, then I will set the price for each round for example 20x round it will be @$0.5.

If other people say I gamble, that's fine. I personally think, my way to have fun with my money is in casino services.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: TravelMug on November 22, 2022, 11:16:57 AM
I understand your frustrations and dilemma when you gamble and lost that money that can you used for other things, most importantly bring food in the table for your family.

But this is a very old question, even religions are totally against gambling so it should be unethical.

So it really depends on the gamblers mindset, if he/she feels that gambling is bad then stop immediately, simply as that.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Queentoshi on November 22, 2022, 12:21:05 PM
I want to see if people like me struggling too when it comes to handling faith and gambling.
Different faiths, different messages. Some Faith totally forbid gambling and consider it unethical; some other faith only considers gambling Unethical when it becomes done too much out of control. Know your faith and stick with your beliefs. If your faith sees gambling as unethical and forbids it, it becomes sin to go against that belief while you are under that faith. If your faith allows it, but says you shouldn't do it too much, you should also follow your faith, it becomes a sin to gamble too much, but not a sin to gamble itself.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: avikz on November 22, 2022, 12:25:59 PM
There's no straight answer to this question - whether gambling is ethical or unethical! We all are individuals and we do follow different faiths and religions. So it's quite normal to get confused by this question. I personally feel that if I am using my own money for gambling after taking care of my liabilities and responsibilities, it shouldn't be unethical at all.  My own money is my own property and I have every right to do whatever I want to do with that.

But it becomes unethical when I don't take care of my liabilities and instead gamble with that money. But that's my personal take on it and it may not match with your own belief.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: aoluain on November 22, 2022, 12:43:19 PM
I think the OP is suffering from a religious dilemma rather than ethics.

If a religion forbids gambling and the member of that religion continues to do it, they
have to come to terms with what they are doing.

The way I see religion v gambling is as a member of a religion you are obligated or forced
to follow rules, gambling is a choice.



Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: gunhell16 on November 22, 2022, 12:48:45 PM
I知 dealing with this thoughts most of the time not because of the money I知 losing but due to my religion. I知 aware that gambling is a bad thing to do base on the bible but the scenario there was people is gambling using the money that they need for there family or they are already addicted on gambling that cause them to change there life into messed.

On my scenario, I知 only gambling using my free money and provide money for my family regularly with same amount that we need. I never fail to provide money because I only gamble what I知 willing to risk although I知 just being haunted by my losses if I sum it all and imagine what can I do on it if ever I didn稚 gamble it.

I知 still gambling although my inner me always regret what I知 doing after. The happiness that I get when gambling always greater to my guilt which is why I can keep on this setup.

Anyway back on point. I know that this is being discussed many times but in your personal opinion not the general post shit. Is gambling unethical? Please answer only base on your personal experience and scenario because I want to see if people like me struggling too when it comes to handling faith and gambling.

This is my answer to your question friend, if we base it on the bible, what is written in this book about gambling is bad and wrong. This is clearly stated in the bible.

Now based on what you said, the reason why you continue to gamble is that it gives you happiness even though you know it's wrong. That's how we are people, when we are told that it is bad to gamble, our answer is always "Why is it bad to be happy?" Even so, even if it brings us happiness, let's just remember that everything wrong and bad results are always bad.

Now is this an Ethical question? if we base it on the bible again, it is clear that it is not ethical. Because even if we face the God we believe in, I'm sure we won't say in front of God that gambling is ethical. Because we know in ourselves that this is bad and God doesn't want it. We just insist that we're happy even though we know it's wrong.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: livingfree on November 22, 2022, 01:12:34 PM
It is subjective if it's unethical or ethical.

But let's take it on the side of the casinos, if they've been registered and operating legally then by the bind is that they're an ethical business that follows the rules of wherever they're registered.

And for the side of the gambler, as you're being guilty whenever you gamble then it means on your perspective and based on your feeling it is unethical.

With your situation, follow what you think is right and what will make you feel without any guilt.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: rahmad2nd on November 22, 2022, 01:22:36 PM
If you involve gambling and associate it with religion. in other words, you will have conflicting sides of yourself. as you said, on the one hand you get happiness when you gamble. the other hand, you feel guilty because the things you do are contrary to religion.
IMO, such things will indirectly interfere with and affect your psychology. if that's the case, then I advise you to stop gambling.  even then, if you can really stop gambling.

Whether gambling is ethical or not, we can argue about it. However, whatever the argument is, it will not have a big effect, let alone solve the problem you are facing. I also embrace faith, however, in truth if I involve everything with religion, then I am a sinner.  however, let's be realistic. do you think everything that is prohibited in your religion is still very relevant in this era.

I am fond of gambling activities, however, as long as I don't harm other people, and don't neglect my small family, moreover I am responsible for myself.

that's fine.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Boristhecat on November 22, 2022, 01:30:48 PM
Firstly, ethics is a subjective concept and it is pointless to discuss it. I am especially against when someone imposes their opinion on me - I believe that this is a personal matter and everyone should choose for himself (if it is important for you to know, gambling is not unethical for me).

Secondly, I think that you should not "sum up all your spending on gambling" and be upset by the result, as this is a destructive approach. If you think in this direction, then you can "cross out" from your life all unnecessary (but pleasant) expenses, rest, time spent on entertainment, communicating with friends, etc. and come to the conclusion that in this case you would be a multimillionaire. Perhaps this is the correct calculation, but it would be a terrible life.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: salad daging on November 22, 2022, 01:39:36 PM
I can't say it like that because various definitely have reasons especially they have legality against legitimate casinos, according to the Bible in my belief gambling is not allowed but I am responsible for it not to cause more complicated problems let alone become frustrated if I always enough for what the family needs and also some other needs and also I still keep investing even though I do gambling (not every day) I just think of this as fun that shouldn't be a burden and free money is the solution so that other money doesn't distracted by our gambling.
But I think that everyone will be different whether it is ethical or not, of course I have my own views.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on November 22, 2022, 01:40:09 PM
I think its strange how religious people tend to shame themselves over things that should not make them feel ashamed. I am not religious and from my own unique perspective, all this negativity seems to be in your own head. Asking yourself is something ethical can make you go crazy, especially if you have a rigid view of the world. But then again, is anything ethical? Is paying tax ethical, if you live in a country that uses your tax money to pay for things that go against your religion? Like capital punishment? Or is buying food from Nestle ethical, knowing they exploit children in third world countries?

At some point you realize that most things are not ethical from a religious moral perspective.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: YOSHIE on November 22, 2022, 02:18:32 PM
Is gambling unethical?
Behavior, beliefs, morals, principles, social normals of a person have different ethical standards, many people in this world act and do things selfishly, regardless of the religion they adhere to and their respective faiths, that's a principle, You bet gambling is principle.

In general and as a whole they know gambling is a risk and many think that being involved in gambling is wrong and bad, many problems occur when you are already involved and addicted to gambling, apart from losing their money, family risks can also occur at any time.

Gambling is very clearly an unethical act, but if you believe in the Bible and believe in your faith and religion, of course you can carry out gambling behavior that is ethical, morally you can have normal principles of right action, without having to bet and gamble.

bottom line: no one is forcing someone to bet and gamble, whatever their religious beliefs, those are all principles and behaviors.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on November 22, 2022, 02:32:47 PM
  -  If you are a religious and conservative person, you will not gamble for sure. Now, since this forum platform gives us all the freedom to express our thoughts and views, it turns out that there is nothing wrong with what everyone has to say here of course.

It's also simple, the only good thing to do and I think it's right, is that if anyone gambles on any crypto gambling platform or land-based casino, the only gambling amount we should use is the one we are ready to beat without regret, that's the only logic because if the budget we spend for our family is used to play gambling, it's clear that this is not right and is no longer the normal work of a gambler.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: bittraffic on November 22, 2022, 02:36:03 PM
You feel negative after playing, I guess you consider it unethical.  

I can not separate my opinion from what others should think of it but if people just consider gambling as a pass time activity they won't see anything wrong with it also. Not everyone will agree to that, however. So if you don't want to put more weight on that guilt, don't let your family know you are gambling. Or better quit.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Doan9269 on November 22, 2022, 02:42:27 PM
If you define gambling as to what it means to you then you will have a clear understanding that as long as you gamble in the appropriate way then it can not be used as against you, the religious aspect here is entirely different but what can be used to juxtapose it is if yiu don't steal, kill or perform any form of manipulations or evil to achieve the aim behind gambling then you're right to gamble by all ethical standard.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Yatsan on November 22, 2022, 02:42:48 PM
Depends on your view. How do you view ethics?

Gambling, if it would be based on religious beliefs, ofcourse it would be wrong.
If it would be based on laws, there are limitations wherein to some countries it is totally prohibited, while to some it is regulated and remaing countries wherein it is completely legal.

The thing that makes gambling bad is the idea and its manifestation; greed, frustrations, taking advantage of others and more. But we have different ways to view this activity. Some engages to this activity to kill time, earn profit, and such. So maybe it has something to do as well with one's motives?


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: coin-investor on November 22, 2022, 02:56:22 PM

Anyway back on point. I know that this is being discussed many times but in your personal opinion not the general post shit. Is gambling unethical? Please answer only base on your personal experience and scenario because I want to see if people like me struggling too when it comes to handling faith and gambling.

It's in your mindset and the location where you are, if you are in a location where gambling is thriving and legal and supported by your government you will not feel guilty at all, gambling is an industry remember that it supports livelihood, employment, and its taxes help the government needs for infrastructure, you don't need to struggle you just have to think positive that the gambling industry is helping the government and citizen to have a good living.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Blawpaw on November 22, 2022, 03:03:52 PM
For many cultures Gambling may be unehtical, but in the western world it is something that ia acceptable. In fact, we have a whole industry around Gambling who is responsible for giving work to a lot of people.

On the other hand, on the Muslim world, gambling is unethical and people can even get some problems by doing it. I guess this is an unacceptable attitude for the 21st century and people in muslim countries should fight to change this.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Frankolala on November 22, 2022, 03:25:14 PM
If your religion is against gambling and the you going contrary to it then you are not helping yourself that is why your inner mind is judging you because deep down in you feel guilty. Gambling is unethical according to the Bible because it looks like a waste of resources and can easily be addicted to,this can lead to frustration and depression.

We are humans and love doing what gives us happiness but careless about our religious belief which is bad,if your religious doesn't encourage gambling you need to stop and look for an alternative way to make yourself happy so that you don't get trapped at the middle of it. Have you thought if your pastor or lmam should know about this ?



Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Awaklara on November 22, 2022, 03:35:23 PM
Is gambling unethical?

yes, gambling is always unethical in my opinion. I'm not going to talk about religion. but we can see from what we spend to gamble. and we know that our winning percentage is never greater than that of the bookies.
however, you are not alone who feel it. I also still gamble even though I know I will lose. I'm happy doing it and I'm not harming anyone else. I quite think like that. I will not collide with such problems with my faith and religion.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Razmirraz on November 22, 2022, 03:45:11 PM
Ethical or unethical depends on your initial goal when you want to gamble, if you are targeting a win then you will be even more curious and make you got addicted to always gambling. Gamblers who just want to relieve fatigue after doing their routine (not got addicted) can still be categorized as Ethical. But if you get money in the wrong way that is against religious values, such as robbing, selling valuables at home, obviously gambling like that is very unethical.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Cling18 on November 22, 2022, 03:52:50 PM
Gambling itself is not unethical, it only becomes unethical if we're abusing it or dealing with gambling the wrong way. As long as you are a responsible gambler and don't see gambling as a center of your life, then there's nothing wrong with it. It's unethical if you are allowing it to ruin your life by spending all your money on it even the funds that are allocated for your family's necessities. The purpose of gambling is to entertain us and it only becomes worse if we'll do it with greed.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: kamvreto on November 22, 2022, 04:33:16 PM
Ethical or unethical depends on your initial goal when you want to gamble, if you are targeting a win then you will be even more curious and make you got addicted to always gambling. Gamblers who just want to relieve fatigue after doing their routine (not got addicted) can still be categorized as Ethical. But if you get money in the wrong way that is against religious values, such as robbing, selling valuables at home, obviously gambling like that is very unethical.

But basically, everyone will aim for victory. He gambled to win and multiplied the money at stake. There is nothing wrong when they realize that gambling is very risky, what makes it unethical is when they are too addicted to spending a lot of money and direct gamblers to criminal acts to get money to be able to gamble.
Gambling still has rules and in big countries that legalize gambling, it's all regulated to keep it orderly. But in several other countries, it is being criticized because it has many negative effects.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Getmon on November 22, 2022, 04:35:44 PM
Everything has a gamble or risk. Everything becomes unethical when abused and are beyond limitations. The same situation if we buy very expensive things or eat on luxurious restaurants that can harm our regular budget intended for ourselves and our family. Gambling only becomes unethical when we spend money we cannot afford to lose. Stealing and asking for loans to gamble are unethical.

On religious perspective, most will consider gambling as unethical and if not, religious leaders advise is to have self control and discipline to prevent gambling disorders.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: bitcampaign on November 22, 2022, 05:14:16 PM
if you ask people who are religious maybe you will get a satisfactory answer while in this forum we don't want to discuss religion because maybe there are many different views in each religion especially what is discussed is about gambling, if you feel it is wrong and unethical you should leave gambling and look for a job to support your family with money that comes from your work not from gambling, I can't give the best advice nor can friends here come back to yourself ask that in your heart


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: akuntester1 on November 22, 2022, 05:23:22 PM
I知 dealing with this thoughts most of the time not because of the money I知 losing but due to my religion. I知 aware that gambling is a bad thing to do base on the bible but the scenario there was people is gambling using the money that they need for there family or they are already addicted on gambling that cause them to change there life into messed.

On my scenario, I知 only gambling using my free money and provide money for my family regularly with same amount that we need. I never fail to provide money because I only gamble what I知 willing to risk although I知 just being haunted by my losses if I sum it all and imagine what can I do on it if ever I didn稚 gamble it.

I知 still gambling although my inner me always regret what I知 doing after. The happiness that I get when gambling always greater to my guilt which is why I can keep on this setup.

Anyway back on point. I know that this is being discussed many times but in your personal opinion not the general post shit. Is gambling unethical? Please answer only base on your personal experience and scenario because I want to see if people like me struggling too when it comes to handling faith and gambling.

In my opinion, if we associate it with religion, of course gambling is something bad and prohibited. In any religion, gambling will definitely be prohibited because of its negative impact.
That's because in religion it has been explained that gambling will often cause negative things to a person, right?
And it is true and it has happened many times when gamblers lose their self-control and cause various problems to themselves and others.
Some people claim to be able to control themselves when gambling, but we know that self-control is not easy, right?
I myself sometimes feel in a dilemma when talking about gambling because religion and the environment where I live consider gambling to be a negative thing.
The most important thing is that we have to be wise when we want to gamble and we have to be able to control ourselves so we don't lose our minds.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: virasisog on November 22, 2022, 05:27:59 PM
We can't actually deny the fact that gambling will always be against religious belief especially the bible based on religions. But for me, it isn't unethical if we know how to handle it well. If we know how to put limitations and control ourselves in too much betting. It becomes unethical if we are committing unacceptable things just to pursue it such as stealing and dealing with any criminal activities. If our lives are in a mess because of it which affects our reputation then we could say that we are making gambling unethical.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Pierre 2 on November 22, 2022, 05:30:43 PM
It totally depends on how you look and how much you are attracted to gambling. Some people can't stop gambling because they have hopes to get rich through which makes their lives miserable. Some people just gamble with tiny amount of money as a hobby to have fun. I don't think sins committed through these 2 different acts are same. I think gambling is just gaming with your money and its not that unethical at all.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 22, 2022, 05:56:42 PM
I guess it's always been unethical if we are going to based everything in religion. Not just unethical but the morality of gambling as well. There could be people who think that when they gamble, they are committing sins and so that's where the ethical issues come into the picture.

But there are a lot of counter arguments as well like what the OP have said, he prioritized first his family. And the money that he gamble is not that big and he play to have fun and for entertainment purposes only. So I guess it really up to the individual, if he feels guilty every gambling session because of his religion and morality then I guess it is unethical for that individual.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Yogee on November 22, 2022, 06:38:30 PM
..... I want to see if people like me struggling too when it comes to handling faith and gambling.
Not in my case. Perhaps that's becaise I don't feel bound by any religious organization. I just don't find any difference in spending your extra money on gadgets than spending it on lottery tickets or slot machines. You already said you provide for your family so there should be no guilt.


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: OgNasty on November 22, 2022, 06:39:04 PM
I think that gambling can be unethical, but so long as you're doing it for entertainment, it's legal where you are gambling, and you are using your own money that was legally obtained, I don't see any reason why it would be unethical.  However, if you're stealing funds to gamble, you have insider knowledge you're exploiting, you're gambling illegally, or you're doing it purely to try and make money, then you might say it could be considered unethical.  You might even say someone with an addiction that gambles behind their partner's back is also unethical.  

Conclusion, bet your own money for fun in a legal jurisdiction and don't hide it.  


Title: Re: Is gambling unethical?
Post by: Davidvictorson on November 22, 2022, 06:43:29 PM
I understand the moral and spiritual struggle. In my opinion, it is not whether you gamble but how and what you gamble on. How did I get the money to gamble. Is it mine or was it stolen? Is it for family matters or it is money I budgeted for it? Am I addicted to gambling that it has affected my communication with other humans, my relationship with my friends and family, and mental health? Can I go a day, a week or a month without gambling and not feel that my life is falling apart? These are some of the things I consider before drawing a conclusion on the ethics of my gambling with my faith.