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Title: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: Chandu141 on November 23, 2022, 08:31:33 AM

I found around 5+ BTC in my old wallet



https://i.imgur.com/IbZQv10.png


Below shows the balance of individual wallet but on explorer it shows zero balance / * My wallet fully synced and its at latest version of 23



https://i.imgur.com/3QQipLz.png


i tried to send 1 BTC but

The status of the transaction after some hours / unconfirmed / not in memory pool.


https://i.imgur.com/l7Cz1FN.png
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Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 23, 2022, 08:54:24 AM
Your wallet is obviously not properly synced since the addresses you have listed are in fact empty. For future reference, hiding the addresses but showing the output amount and the date means it is still trivial to locate those addresses.

For example:
This transaction (https://mempool.space/tx/313cb0b28d23f6e8afdb9f93bf047d41360745881ecdd9e387e10f067cd1bc8a) on April 4, 2019 spends 5 of your outputs.
This transaction (https://mempool.space/tx/f60acdbe1a9e553d6d9f4675bef9190f069eb55e3fb01ee3d0b69ae9aaf24500) on June 15, 2019, spends 1 of your outputs.
This transaction (https://mempool.space/tx/2d0f0a7a056fa8290723626118723229eeee84ace4cd3cf51e684ebdf9179897) on November 10, 2020 spends 2 of your outputs.

So the transaction you are trying to broadcast will never confirm because it is invalid, as it is attempting to spend outputs which are already spent.

You probably want to try the rescanblockchain command in the first instance.


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: NotATether on November 23, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
When you load a wallet, you always need to rescan the blockchain in order to fully sync the transacion history. I know that Bitcoin-cli has such an option. As for Bitcoin-qt, I am less sure, but you can always close it and run Bitcoind and then issue the rescanblockchain command o_e_l_e_o posted, then shut down Bitcoind and open the GUI again.


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 23, 2022, 03:27:35 PM
As for Bitcoin-qt, I am less sure, but you can always close it and run Bitcoind and then issue the rescanblockchain command o_e_l_e_o posted, then shut down Bitcoind and open the GUI again.
Just open the GUI as normal, click on Window -> Console, and then enter rescanblockchain and hit enter. It will even give you a nice little pop up window with a progress bar. :)

Given the last transaction in OP's wallet is in block 546,272, he could start scanning from this block to save himself some time, simply by typing rescanblockchain 546272.


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: joniboini on November 23, 2022, 04:26:44 PM
If an explorer shows your address is empty, and you've double-checked it with another explorer, I'd not bother with syncing the wallet if that is the case unless you want to do something else other than spending your money. Why did you not believe it in the first place? I assume you're familiar with how a wallet works seeing you are selling some miners in the past. You also posted more or less the same issue a few years ago.


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: nc50lc on November 24, 2022, 07:12:07 AM
OP is probably "trying again" after a few years since his last attempt to spend his funds.
If not, he seems to possess a collection of zero-balance wallets that're failing to sync properly.

Here are his older topics (around 2020):
  • i can see BTC on wallet GUI but when i see it on explorer, the balance is NIL (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288645.0)
  • Status: 0/unconfirmed, not in memory pool (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287546.0)


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: seoincorporation on November 24, 2022, 11:01:29 PM
Another option is to backup you private keys and import those address to a wallet that doesn't need to sink the full blockchain. Some options to import  the private keys to spend the coins are:

https://www.blockchain.com/wallet

or Electrum wallet.

Just as the other user mention, maybe those address doesn't have the balance but they show it because there is a sync problem. To be sure about the balance in those address use a block explorer and search there the addresses.


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: LoyceV on November 25, 2022, 06:07:47 AM
https://www.blockchain.com/wallet
OP is talking about 5+ Bitcoin. Using a web wallet for that is a very bad idea. Keeping the private keys offline (and signing transactions offline) is the safest.
However, since OP has been going at this for 2 years now, opening more topics isn't going to help him. It looks like he has no Bitcoin:
i can see BTC on wallet GUI but when i see it on explorer, the balance is NIL


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: Chandu141 on November 25, 2022, 08:41:49 AM
Thanks for the replies ..

Yes i tried 2 years back but i couldn't get them back as after rescan my wallet become empty ..

this time i found the wallet which i had a backup and i realised it was the one i tried to recover years back and yet i tried to add in new wallet which is fully synced and yet it shoed BTC balance.

now again i felt my coins are still there and trying to recover but after posting this thread again i rescanned but then i see no funds.

yes looks like my coins are gone but i am sure i didn't spent myself. it was back then in 2017 i remember backed up and tried to transfer but i couldn't then in 2020 and now again in 2022.

Just the hope of getting back funds that are not spend from myside. but it is what it it... the wallets are empty and i can't recall how they got spent. so i have no funds now.

the crazy thing is i can see the funds if i re add the wallet file in to the newly and fully synced wallet which is crazy , must be the older wallets are gone crazy .. now we are in 24 version it seems as per achow.

always update wallet aswell as the old backup wallets with the updated version wallets is what i have learned  :P


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: LoyceV on November 25, 2022, 01:58:24 PM
after rescan my wallet become empty ..
i rescanned but then i see no funds.
I've seen many similar topics: apparently sometimes something goes wrong with a wallet, and years later people see Bitcoins that are long gone. I can't know what caused it (and it never happened to me), but you're certainly not alone.
I think it's time to stop giving yourself hope.

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looks like my coins are gone but i am sure i didn't spent myself. it was back then in 2017
O_e_l_e_o showed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422799.msg61335758#msg61335758) your inputs were spent a year and a half apart. The last transaction was 2 days after you opened a topic here. If your wallet would have been compromised, I'd expect all funds to disappear simultaneously. So my guess is you must have spent them by yourself, but somehow don't remember.


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: nc50lc on November 26, 2022, 04:38:32 AM
this time i found the wallet which i had a backup and i realised it was the one i tried to recover years back and yet i tried to add in new wallet which is fully synced and yet it shoed BTC balance.

now again i felt my coins are still there and trying to recover but after posting this thread again i rescanned but then i see no funds.
Okay, to prevent those false-positive balances, you must load the wallet properly next time.
Replacing a previously loaded wallet.dat will likely result with the same scenario since it will not trigger a rescan and just show you the wallet's last "remembered" balance.

Here's to load a wallet properly in the latest versions:
Paste it to the new PC's "wallets" folder inside bitcoin data directory, rename the wallet file or put it inside a folder with your preferred wallet name
then Open Bitcoin Core and load using the menu: "File->Open Wallet".


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 28, 2022, 10:04:03 AM
Yes i tried 2 years back but i couldn't get them back as after rescan my wallet become empty ..
Then your wallet is empty. Coins which disappear after a rescan have been spent at some point since the wallet was last fully synced.

the crazy thing is i can see the funds if i re add the wallet file in to the newly and fully synced wallet which is crazy , must be the older wallets are gone crazy ..
Since you are struggling with syncing your wallets properly, the simplest thing to do is probably just going to be to look up individual addresses on a block explorer such as https://mempool.space/. If you happen to find an address which still has coins in it, then you can rescan that wallet and spend those coins. But it does seem like all your coins have been spent years ago.


Title: Re: i couldn't spend my bitcoin any advice please ?
Post by: nc50lc on November 28, 2022, 12:07:58 PM
Just an update on this post:

Here's to load a wallet properly in the latest versions:
Paste it to the new PC's "wallets" folder inside bitcoin data directory, rename the wallet file or put it inside a folder with your preferred wallet name
then Open Bitcoin Core and load using the menu: "File->Open Wallet".
@Chandu141
If you have updated to Bitcoin Core version 24.0, you can simply use the new menu in the GUI: "File->Restore Wallet..".
Select the wallet.dat file and Core will do all the necessary steps to load it properly.