Bitcoin Forum

I have created the cryptocurrency Circcash, so I naturally interact with many entities in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. I have noticed that the entities in this ecosystem are some of the most immature and vile entities imaginable. The people in the cryptocurrency ecosystem have thoroughly earned my disrespect. They are just awful to be around and communicate to in any way whatsoever. Instead of trying to defend the cryptocurrency sector or tell me that I am doing something wrong, you should try becoming a better person.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Creator of Circcash

Added 12:20:2022

This thread was not originally classified as Altcoin Discussion because it is not about any particular altcoin. Anyone who thinks it is about any altcoin is just being one of the vile and immature entities who I have been talking about.

Most people are passionate about the work they do and the cryptocurrency community is particularly passionate about their work. But there is another, simpler reason why this community can be especially unpleasant: digital currency has a lot of value, which means that shady characters are attracted to it. When there is money at stake, people can become more hostile.

In summation, the cryptocurrency community does have some bad elements and growing pains, but it is no worse than any other growing industry. There are still plenty of very smart and caring people in this space, but you will have to do your research to find them. It is also important to remember that in a market as unregulated as cryptocurrency, there will always be many con artists and fraudsters who use the popularity of bitcoin and other digital currencies as a way to line their pockets by lying or creating schemes that are built on lies.

Before you started, did you happen do research this scene? Because as a Dev, you need a tougher skin. There's ton of money involved so things get heated. People are looking for for profits and when they don't they will always lash it out to devs of those coins they hold. Just be transparent what you do and youl'll be fine. There will always be haters but this is a bear run and everyone frustrated. Those who support you now will support you for a long time

I would like you to be more specific about what kind of interactions and what kind of entities you have communicated with (you do not need to reveal names or platforms tho).
If you are talking about CEO's or other small projects, then it is possible you find very rude people. I have got the impression you may be dealing with the wrong people at the wrong place, since you dare to call out a whole community this way.

"Before you started, did you happen do research this scene?"-Yes.

"Because as a Dev, you need a tougher skin. There's ton of money involved so things get heated."-Is this why people automatically worship Elon Musk and invest in Dogecoin just because Musk says so? The cryptocurrency community is too fickle to do the required due diligence to understand anything about anything.

"Those who support you now will support you for a long time"-Well, I have not been able to find any long-term supporters who I know by name. I have nothing but haters because the cryptocurrency sector is full of hateful people.

"Just be transparent what you do and youl'll be fine."-I have tried this. But I find it impossible to communicate with people because there is a shortage of human intelligence in the world.

"Most people are passionate about the work they do and the cryptocurrency community is particularly passionate about their work."-There is a difference between being passionate and being in a cult.

"There are still plenty of very smart and caring people in this space, but you will have to do your research to find them."-I don't believe this.

"I would like you to be more specific about what kind of interactions and what kind of entities you have communicated with. . ."-

Um. People have been posting Nazi imagery in online forums, and nobody except for me sees a problem with this. This is because the entities in those forums are Nazis. Just yesterday, someone posted a picture of a penis in a forum. The people in these forums constantly and relentlessly harass me. They do not know how to communicate in proper English. And no, this is not because they are foreigners. It is because they hate education. Nobody ever knows what I am talking out when I am trying to communicate. The cryptocurrency community also hates me intensely because I have a Ph.D. in mathematics. They think that I need to apologize for having an education. The Bitcoin community also hates science intensely.

It sounds like Covid-19 masks and the Covid-19 lockdowns have inhibited humanity's social skills. And the brain damage from long Covid has caused people to become vegetables.

"I have got the impression you may be dealing with the wrong people at the wrong place, since you dare to call out a whole community this way."-Then do better. I have no problem calling the entire cryptocurrency community out for being bad people, and I will continue to do this until the behavior of the cryptocurrency community improves. I would personally not want to transact with anyone using cryptocurrencies or with anyone who has any cryptocurrency since the cryptocurrency sector has been completely rotten.

Since you seem to get offensive and just chosen the bitter way and deciding that you are right instead of listening to experience, i feel like this doesn't lead to anywhere, but i'll try to answer all to your points, even the ones not directed to me:

That's a weird connection to my sentence. Doge fans cheer because because someone famous talks about them. Elon has fanbois and i am pretty sure they are not all that into crypto. Most of the PLANET doesn't "understand anything about anything" so why are you singling out crypto here? If you want to talk with smart people start from smarter then yourself. There are some brilliant crypto devs out there that are not tribalistic/maximalists, nor they care about the price.

Yeah, i am starting to see the full picture of why wouldn't you have supporters. Even if you don't have people skills you can practise them. You don't need to be talking with everyone, nor everyone needs to like you. Obviously you will have haters, that's the reason famous people don't want to google themselves. Because they would focus only on the haters. Human brain is funny that way.

But instead of blaming others and wanting them to change, maybe take a hard look at the mirror first. And think what you want, why you want it and why do you think you deserve it. Or if you rather just want to build, then build.

If you can't dumb down low enough to get trough, talk with smarter ones. It could be that your project somehow attracts wrong people and you need to ask yourself why is that?
Maybe take a page from people who have been transparent, and how they reply to fud and stupid comments. Emanuele Francioni (https://twitter.com/Autholykos) for example has insanely good track record in their telegram/discord using their own free time explaining very technical subjects to idiots like me.

I would say it's definitely not "most people", but there are those too. Yeah, this space is full of tribalism and bring out worst of some people, because that's what humans do, they treat this as a sport where they cheer the other team and diss the other one and that's just something i am learning to ignore here. Most of people in here are profit maximalists anyway caliming that they are "in it for the tech". It has been meme from the start.

From the perspective of a smart person, majority of the people are immature idiots, you just have to accepted this blaming it all at one fringe sector for it is just lazy

That's really your problem, i could make a list but i feel like you are now just acting out as you are frustrated. I already gave one name but i am betting you can find hundred of others you can find just by reading the white papers. Most of the projects are crap and you need to weed out those. If you don't want to do the work, then i can't help you on that.

This is what happens when we remove censorship, people aren't like they seem on any other social media. You can look at 4chan, that's how people interact when they can be anonymous. It's not problem in crypto, it's the human race.

And here you are assuming we are now all nazis. I guess that includes you too. How is this deductive reasoning? But if you really need an answer to this, if you haven't been paying attention, exremist right wing have been on the rise in the whole world. I mean "The Jews" were trending in the twitter just while ago. Again it's not just crypto. And i am not defending this by the way. I am all for censorship.

Stop interacting with people who harass you and kick them out. You can't feed the trolls, that's how they live.

Yes, some people have hated science since scientific method was a thing, long before even internet. This is not about crypto.

And you wonder why you are getting harassed? It's not just you, it's everyone in here. It's good that you want to defend yourself but you can't win the fight by arguing with idiots. This whole space attracts people from every possible group of people. So there are conspiratards, idiots, scientists, rich, poor, gamblers, idealistic, young, old, far right, far left, mental patients and doctors. All having a voice, so unless you actively filter out the irrelevant voices it's all noise where loudest idiot wins.

You have to remember that normally you can act with people like yourself, in this space, you will hear voices that are borderlne illegal and dangerous, and these talking points and all this trolling is hopefully very much different from your normal circles and yes, that can be shocking. Again, this is all internet uncensored, not crypto.

"Stop interacting with people who harass you and kick them out. You can't feed the trolls, that's how they live."-I tried getting rid of the harassers and those who refuse to stand for sanity, and as a result, there was literally nobody left. Everybody loves harassment because they are evil. May God damn their souls.

"All having a voice, so unless you actively filter out the irrelevant voices it's all noise where loudest idiot wins."-I have been doing that. And now, the only voice that is left is my own. Everyone else is a harasser and a Nazi. If you don't like what I have so say, then do better.

"And here you are assuming we are now all nazis. I guess that includes you too."-I will assume the crypto community has a lot of Nazis until I have evidence of anything otherwise. Perhaps 5 to 10 percent of the cryptocurrency community is not entrenched in Nazism, but those are not good numbers. When I called out others for their Nazism, there was absolutely nobody to defend sanity except for me. I was the only one. I know that this is hard to hear, but it is the truth. The cryptocurrency sector loves Nazism. If you do not like this, then do better. If I am the only person left after banning the Nazis, then that means that nearly everyone in the cryptocurrency sector is a Nazi.

"Yes, some people have hated science since scientific method was a thing, long before even internet. This is not about crypto."-And that is not an excuse.

"It's not problem in crypto, it's the human race."-That is not an excuse.

"That's really your problem, i could make a list but i feel like you are now just acting out as you are frustrated."-I am telling the truth. The truth hurts.

"Doge fans cheer because because someone famous talks about them."-And people who worship Elon are assholes; cryptocurrency chlurmcks are also assholes. Elon tortures and murders monkeys, so he is just like Jeffrey Dahmer, and Elon is only as rich as he is because people are stupid enough to worship him. I have encountered quite a few crypto chlurmcklets who worship Elon. And let us not forget the obvious. Elon pumped the price of Doge so that suckers invest in Doge and give their money to Elon. I cannot respect those suckers.

"Yeah, i am starting to see the full picture of why wouldn't you have supporters. Even if you don't have people skills you can practise them."-I get it. You think that the only people who have people skills are those who turn a blind eye towards Nazism because if we got rid of all the Nazis, there will be nobody left to do good.

It is not good to get far more upset that I am observing that the cryptocurrency community is dysfunctional than to get upset at the dysfunction and dysfunctional people itself.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Creator of Circcash

It is his fault that he is disappointed after observing the characters of these people, they are not in control of what you decide to think and conclude about their characters, his expectations were too high hoping to meet well mannered and cultured individuals because of their involvement in cryptocurrency. That someone is involved in cryptocurrency does not guarantee good behavior and character.

Bananington-If people are going to hate me for justly observing how terrible the cryptocurrency community is, then those people have thoroughly earned my disrespect and hatred. I already expect for people to always do as much evil as possible, and I am simply observing that people are doing exactly that. If people get offended because I am making a just observation at them, then those people are nothing but worthless trash.

"That someone is involved in cryptocurrency does not guarantee good behavior and character."-Sadly, I cannot find very many people who exhibit good behavior and character in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. That is very bad. If you do not like that I am saying this, then do better.

I hope you all know that it is not a bad thing to make a just observation about the cryptocurrency community. Observing bad things happening is different than doing bad. Do you understand? Or do you just want to victim blame and lash out at anyone who is trying to do good?

I have been on the internet long enough and I have been on enough websites to know that there are lots of very bad people on the internet. I expect there to be bad people on the internet. We should now be asking about the lack of good people on the internet.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Creator of Circcash

I can find many people in this very thread who are showing maturity and good behavior talking to you without any aggression or those nazi symbols and penis pictures that you dislike.
We are all a part of the crypto community and if you read some threads you'll find that those childish attacks are in minority.
You're generalizing by saying that the community is the worst and so on. I've been here for a few years and I feel that it's the other way round.

What behavior do you expect from us? If you're looking for approval and calling the lack of it immature, you're instantly putting yourself on the receiving end.

It is the same thing i observed from his complains. He should not expect those developers in the business before him to welcome him with open hands without interrogation. They already see him as a rival and there is nothing bad in that. That is business competition for you. So therefore, he should be calm and listen more and pay attention. It does not kill to learn from more experienced people in your line of business.

Explanation ≠ excuse.

And i have encountered quite a few of them who loath Elon too. I've already explained this phenomenon, look it up.

Dude, you seem to be the only one that is actually upset here :). I was answering to you because i thought you needed help, but it's clear now that you just wanted to complain, and not to have conversation, so you can keep doing that if it helps you somehow.

But your weird generalization makes me wonder how legit your PhD is. That and the fact you are throwing in made up guesstimate percentages about how many of us is a nazis. Really scientific approach.

"But your weird generalization makes me wonder how legit your PhD is."-If you question the legitimacy of my Ph.D. like this, then you seriously need to just fuck off. You simply hate education, and you hate educated people. You are a part of the problem.

"That and the fact you are throwing in made up guesstimate percentages about how many of us is a nazis. Really scientific approach."-82% of all statistics are made up on the spot. If you had taken statistics, you would know that. If you do not like my estimate, then you should be a better person so that I give a better estimate. By questioning my education WITHOUT REASON, you are not being a better person, but you are being a worse person. I am giving this estimate based on the people who I have communicated with.

"Explanation ≠ excuse."-The behavior from the cryptocurrency community is inexcusable and quite shameful. You are a part of the problem.

"I was answering to you because i thought you needed help, but it's clear now that you just wanted to complain, and not to have conversation, so you can keep doing that if it helps you somehow."-Is there anything wrong with complaining? No. There isn't. If people are behaving badly in a certain sector, I am going to speak up about it. And if you respond by questioning my level of education, then you are a part of the problem.

"He should not expect those developers in the business before him to welcome him with open hands without interrogation."-Great. Then offer constructive criticism. Oh wait. The people here are the same people who doubt my education, and they certainly cannot understand the quantum information theory research that I have been doing to make sure that everything is secure, so I doubt that anyone here will offer anything constructive or be anything other any absolutely asinine.

"We are all a part of the crypto community and if you read some threads you'll find that those childish attacks are in minority."-I do not believe this at all. In fact, on this thread, you see someone questioning my Ph.D. because they think I am stupid. This thread itself already has proven you wrong. If you want to convince me of this, then do better.

"What behavior do you expect from us? If you're looking for approval and calling the lack of it immature, you're instantly putting yourself on the receiving end."-And yet the cryptocurrency community still worships Elon Musk and falls into FTX scams. I expect the cryptocurrency community to speak in complete sentences and stop acting so immature. But that is probably way too much to ask for.

"That is business competition for you. So therefore, he should be calm and listen more and pay attention. It does not kill to learn from more experienced people in your line of business."-And it would not hurt for you to stop quoting those who question my education. Please try to do better. Stop hating education.

From my observation the cryptospace has more young people because they are the ones that quickly embrace technology and innovation. Regardless of their advancement in the industry they might sometimes show some sign of immaturity due to their age or lack of experience. This also doesn't dispute the fact that most of these youths shows high level of maturity. I am studying for my Ph.D and one of the skills this level of education gives is the ability to manage people without causing conflict or any form of confrontation. People would always give their opinion about issues and most times it might be in conflict with your own belief or ideology but you have the option to either accept them or refuse them peacefully. At your level, you should be able to manage people regardless of their orientation or ideology.

I can attest to the fact that this forum has some of the matured minds I have ever met in my entire life. Most people in this forum states their view or position without insulting or intimidating other users. I think you met some people that offended you greatly but generalizing your experience wouldn't be helpful to you because this industry has very good people. And I just hope that you would soon meet some of them.       

https://i.imgur.com/hVZXyfO.png

Implying that i hate science is just hilarious and way more transparent then you would like it to be. Obviously you can use your education as a mask to avoid any self reflecting. It's just easier to think that people dislike your education instead of people disliking you as a person.

Anyone here can say to have any degree or any political view, and most of us won't talk about our education or history, because we don't want to be doxxed and rather stay pseudonymous. So excuse me for not believing something that i have frankly have numerous reasons not to believe. Burden of proof lies on you as you very well know.

If you rather believe blindly people in the internet (or maybe you are pretending to do so), that's your choice, but you can tell us to "f*ck off" in this forum and think we would obey. That's not how it works in here, people won't shut up because you say so. You can always block me if you get annoyed want but that's not same as silencing.

I can't believe i have to tell you this but it's maybe because you are new here, but you have zero idea who any of us are, what's our background are and if we would tell you, you would have no way confirming that, nor you should automatically believe it.

Again, the fact you are seeing nazis around is because lack of censorship in here. You would see that on sports, mechanics, nature, computer gaming or science based forums. Any forums out there, if they had looser censorship.

So far i haven't seen any of these here without someone confronting these trolls. Yet they aren't complaining how everyone here is a troll, they are just replying to specific person who is trolling.

And since you are obsessed with Musk you know he had BS degree too. (https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368)

And go ahead, you can hate nazis all you want. Most of us like i, hate that ideology.

But since you love to generalize, you must realize as educated man that one of the key things how nazism appealed to public and united them effectively was generalization of groups of people and dehumanising them.

By saying entities in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. What are you referring to in particular?
The cryptocurrency sector is not the only sector that's hateful and evil just like you said I don't know the other reason you use these words apart from what you stated but you need to understand that no total Bitcoin enthusiast will ever support any altcoin movement or concept because BTC is the only safe haven cryptocurrency and their belief is that most altcoins are created to enrich the project team.
Having said that, no one can understand your dream and goals like you and you expect something positive from someone that doesn't understand your dream but if you let their negativity stop you from achieving your dream you have no one to blame but yourself.

"Anyone here can say to have any degree or any political view, and most of us won't talk about our education or history, because we don't want to be doxxed and rather stay pseudonymous."-I have not been pseudonymous here, have I. Please think about what you are saying before posting. You just hate education.

"So excuse me for not believing something that i have frankly have numerous reasons not to believe."-F_ck you.

"Burden of proof lies on you as you very well know."-F_ck you. You don't deserve proof. You are not a reasonable person, so I will not give you any proof because if I did provide proof, you will just hate me even more because you are an exceptionally evil entity.

"If you rather believe blindly people in the internet (or maybe you are pretending to do so), that's your choice, but you can tell us to "f*ck off" in this forum and think we would obey."-Then f_ck off.

"You can always block me if you get annoyed want but that's not same as silencing."-Or I can tell you to f_ck off.

"And since you are obsessed with Musk you know he had BS degree too."-BS degrees don't mean anything. Universities promote violence anyways.

"But since you love to generalize, you must realize as educated man that one of the key things how nazism appealed to public and united them effectively was generalization of groups of people and dehumanising them."-If you want to be considered human, you should act like one.

"I am studying for my Ph.D and one of the skills this level of education gives is the ability to manage people without causing conflict or any form of confrontation."-I have doubts about this since universities are extremely unprofessional and they promote violence.

"I can attest to the fact that this forum has some of the matured minds I have ever met in my entire life."-I do not believe this.

". . .no total Bitcoin enthusiast will ever support any altcoin movement or concept. . ."-What a bunch of insufferable and anti-innovative chlurcmklets!

". . .most altcoins are created to enrich the project team."-I agree with this. There are a lot of garbage coins out there. This is why people need to do BASIC RESEARCH. But that is too much to ask for. Cryptocurrency developers need to eat too. Are you suggesting that cryptocurrency developers should not eat?

I almost took the bait and tried to follow your logic, but then i visited your telegram channel that you rage quitted and read your post history...

And after seeing that i rather not indulge your behavior any longer as you clearly went off meds at some point or you are having a complete mental breakdown. Mental health is no joke to me so i hope you get help before you act in a way that totally destroys your reputation and career.

I mean i don't have resources to help you, but you can still recover from this by seeking professional help, it won't be easy but i believe in you. Take care.

o48o-You are a bad person. You hate education. I do not have any mental health problem. I simply see solutions to problems that other people don't see because I am smart and everyone else is really dumb and psychopathic. You are clearly on the side of the people who post pictures of penises and Nazi images because you are a terrible person.

I got it, why you need someone to support you when you know you're doing the right thing?

Almost everyone earned money by working their ass so you can't earn them by your ideas alone, if they want to invest they take their own decision and you should not worry about the results if it doesn't come in the way you expected.

Keep doing what you think is right... ::)

It did not prove me wrong. How many out of 10 people who answered in this thread do you consider childish or hateful? I didn't say there aren't such people in the community, but generalizing and saying that it's the majority is actually offensive because it will be hard for you to find threads where people just roast someone.

If you're looking to be offended you'll surely find posts that will satisfy your need, but it's not the community's fault.


Really? I don't like Musk for what he did in 2021 when he made Tesla accept Bitcoin and just a couple weeks later cancelled it saying it's bad for the environment which was a fake argument meant to justify his pump and dump attempt. I've never followed him but I had a lot of respect for his work. Not anymore.
I've never had any money on FTX, never even had an account there and thought SBF was full of shit with this posing as a charity loving, poor living billionaire who only cares about his mission. I didn't think he's a scammer though, that was a surprise, but the general rule is you don't hold money on exchanges.

Again, don't generalize. There are many people like me on this forum and in the community.

"Almost everyone earned money by working their ass so you can't earn them by your ideas alone, if they want to invest they take their own decision and you should not worry about the results if it doesn't come in the way you expected."-Yeah. About that. In the cryptocurrency sector, it is the bullshit projects that get the biggest investments because the people in the cryptocurrency sector have no place in decent society.

"Really? I don't like Musk for what he did in 2021 when he made Tesla accept Bitcoin and just a couple weeks later cancelled it saying it's bad for the environment which was a fake argument meant to justify his pump and dump attempt."-And yet, the entire cryptocurrency community is dumb enough to fall for this shit. Tesla is overvalued anyways. I am more of a fan of pretty much any other car company because electric cars suck and should be banned.

"I didn't think he's a scammer though, that was a surprise, but the general rule is you don't hold money on exchanges."-And the cryptocurrency community attracts scammers since it is not a part of decent society.

Now the people on the CirccashChat Telegram group have the nerve to hate me while nobody sees any problem with someone posting pictures of penises. WHAT A BUNCH OF FUCKING STUPID PEOPLE! Are you going to tell me I am crazy when nobody fucking notices that there are pornographic pictures of penises on the CirccashChat group? You all have serious problems! Everyone in the cryptocurrency sector (except for me and possibly 0.0001% of the cryptocurrency sector) has serious problems and has absolutely no place in decent society. If you talk to me about cryptocurrencies, I will automatically assume that you insane, stupid, evil, and violent, and I will have absolutely nothing to do with you. Stop being evil! Stop being Nazis.

The holy wrath of the Lord Jesus Christ is raging against the cryptocurrency sector for your evil. May God damn your souls!

So you are sad because no one bought your shitcoin?🤣

digiran-Or maybe people are too braindead to understand Circcash because Circcash solves the most important scientific problem and Bitcoiners hate science. People who judge things that they clearly do not understand anything about are just worthless bugs. The only thing that Bitcoiners can do is insult others because Bitcoiners are worthless lowlifes. Go defecate on your own face.

I'm with you doc, believe me because i too have a shitcoin like yourself that is gonna change the world, it's called activity coin, go buy in waves dex. Don't insute and hate on me doc, I'm also a doctor, i too did so many scientific stuff to build my coin, they ignored and hated on me as well, them bitcoiners.🤣

You should really just shut the fuck up about something that you know absolutely nothing about. You are stupid. This thread is not even about Circcash because if it were, then nobody except for me would understand it.

You seem like a very bitter person that always have an issue with everything. You're always quick to point out how every other person is an asshole but always seem to forget yourself. Do you ever try to access a situation to know if you're the problem?
It's easy to always apportion blame on others without looking inwards. Life is not that hard. It's just understanding. 
I bet if the "entities in the cryptocurrency ecosystem" were nice to you, you won't come here to say how nice they are.
That's a sign of a negative person. Always seeing that the glass is half empty instead of half full.

"You're always quick to point out how every other person is an asshole but always seem to forget yourself."-I do not care if I tell people like you to go defecate on yourselves. You are scum. You are worthless.

"Do you ever try to access a situation to know if you're the problem?"-If the people in the cryptocurrency sector are scumbags who hate science, love NFT scams, and are all around nasty people, I am pretty sure that I am not the problem. The cryptocurrency sector is full of Nazis.

"I bet if the "entities in the cryptocurrency ecosystem" were nice to you, you won't come here to say how nice they are."-This is just a hypothetical scenario that has no relation whatsoever to what is actually happening. Stop speculating.

"That's a sign of a negative person. Always seeing that the glass is half empty instead of half full."-Actually, the glass is broken because somebody dropped it. Now there is orange juice mixed with glass shards on the kitchen carpet. You better clean it up before those glass shards get in your food.

"You seem like a very bitter person that always have an issue with everything."-No. I only have issues with people like you who seriously need to go defecate on themselves.

I don't think the crypto sector is full of hateful and evil people as OP has stated. I think it filled with greedy and evil people that make shitcoins with no development behind them to give them real long term value. I think if you would have marketed "Circcash" a bit better so exchanges would adopt it and show how it dealt with mathematics then people would have valued it. The problem is most people don't buy into cloned coins like Litecoin, Doge etc. Most shitcoins in the space today are copies of ETH purporting to out do ETH lol. Bottom line, most people in the space only care about money or getting more blue-chip coins (BTC, ETH, etc) by trading shitcoins.

I did not ask for any of your to evaluate Circcash. Circcash mining solves the most important scientific problem, but I did not ask for your input about this. You clearly do not understand how Circcash mining solves the most important scientific problem, so it is better for you to refrain from making a mockery of yourself. Stay on topic. You clearly hate science because you are incredibly stupid. You clearly do not care about the quantum information theory research that I have done to help investigate whether Circcash is secure or not. Nobody does because the cryptocurrency sector is too dumb to understand this. The very least that you can do is shut the fuck up about it and learn your fucking place.

Exchanges do not like Circcash because they hate science as well. And that makes the exchanges incredibly untrustworthy. There is absolutely no excuse for your rabid hatred of science. You are a defecator.

If you didn't want feedback from people then why post? I think if you really hate crypto and the community you should just leave and do your own thing. I think YOU are the one pushing the hate because people don't understand what you are trying to sell or show the world. You're always talking down to us and I tried to be a nice guy to you because you seemed like a smart guy that was just bad at marketing and should have released this coin in 2017-2019 because it might have been a big hit. Why not elaborate on the research and tell the exchanges? Granted most exchanges are in it for the money so you'd have to pay them to list your coin. Try a small exchange and work your way up in hype as others have but you have to prove your development to the masses to get really big. I still disagree with your statement some what as I don't think crypto is "hateful" I can see it being used for "evil" in terms of CBDCs but there is always greed in the markets. What exactly is "my place" elaborate on that? 

Quite of a misconception. Indeed we are free to leave the industry if we want to.  There are uncertainties in this industry not only regarding with the market price but in general. Thid is something won't be tolerated by anyone especially with inconvenience or other related shortcomings.Maybe people were just used of convenience or in favored result from this industry, but unfortunately, things does not work smoothly for this industry as its drawback. If you've encountered uncertainties and other problems, it's on you whether to continue with your "thing" or not. We just cannot force the industry or a certain project to adjust with our preference as an investor because they'd more likely regard majority over individual concerns. And that's fine by me.

Language, my dear doctor. Language!

If you expect people to take you seriously, start talking with sense, not with sentiment. Sentiment is for schoolgirls and fools. So how about you start by recognizing that you have made statements which are clearly false, and then explain why you think they are true. I do not want to hear about what you feel or how you might have felt in the past. All that is irrelevant. Evidence! We need to see the evidence. The scientific method. Otherwise, you are just trolling here.

In the blockchain industry, you can't please everyone because we're talking about money here. You can't ask everyone to believe or trust everything that you say no matter how sincere or sentimental you are. We all need to be skeptical when it comes to investment and trusting new projects or even exchanges so don't get offended if you would hear negative feedback from the crypto community. Instead of screaming that you're being hated and hurt, why don't you just prove your point out and prove them wrong? People have to speak their minds out and you can't control them especially the people who are very vocal about what they could see.

When you are in a zone like this and see so many people who hate and try to bring Bitcoin down, you will often see parties who always corner Bitcoin. They not only want Bitcoin to be destroyed but also not to develop and be accepted in society anymore.

But on the other hand, the crypto industry is indeed dangerous and high-risk, so it's not easy to understand the crypto industry. So, we can understand that it takes more than effort to exist and survive in the crypto industry. Because there will definitely continue to be hated, FUD, and also a big risk. But on the other hand, the crypto industry is also profitable and has played a very large role for many people, right? Isn't this make sense when there is something that is very promising and worthy but has a big risk? that's why we are obliged to learn and understand first so that we can mature our hearts and not be easily influenced by these things.

the OP should expect that not all people are very welcoming in this market. but here in this forum, he will encounter a lot of pro-crypto to the point that a lot are willing to share their expertise or experiences in any aspect towards this market. just take a look at beginners section and if one asks something, a lot are sharing their ideas pertaining to the topic. so it is not all negative people that you will encounter here, there are also people who are passionate in this market that are willing to share their expertise.

Some people expect that they can harvest a lot of money on it but turn out to see how difficult when they experience to lose money by their own greediness. They hate it and blame all on crypto while the fact they are the one who's not careful on their investments. Maybe for other they should at least learn the basic and learn from people sentiments because from what they can read on internet they can learn something realistic point to learn more about crypto.

In my opinion, so long as you are dealing with the public, you have to prepare your mind for all kinds of characters. The people in the cryptocurrency space will not o be an excerption - especially when money is involved. And remember, we are in the bear market, so there could be some tendency for people to find out more if they will loose or gain. With the the two bad events in the crypto space, people who don't understand what you are doing may quickly develop negative mind set. IMO, exercise patience and clarify those who need to understand what you are doing. Time always vindicates those who are on the right track  - because people will win their trust over time. Some successful projects today started with people doubting and even objecting to the project.

The topic "The cryptocurrency sector is hateful and evil" is not about the altcoin community nor is it about the cryptocurrency Circcash. The topic "The cryptocurrency sector is hateful and evil" is about Bitcoiners as well because Bitcoiners are as insufferable as all the other crypto chlurmcklets.

"If you didn't want feedback from people then why post?"-There is a difference between feedback and intelligent feedback.

"I think if you really hate crypto and the community you should just leave and do your own thing."-Why do you say I hate cryptography or cryptocurrencies? I am not very fond of the community, but the ideas behind cryptography and cryptocurrencies are very good.

"I think YOU are the one pushing the hate because people don't understand what you are trying to sell or show the world."-If you do not understand Circcash and reversible computation, then it is your responsibility to shut up. Anything that you say other than a basic question will be a dishonest lie. The cryptocurrency community on the other hand is full of the most dishonest angry scumbags, so they cannot learn their place and shut up.

 I think if you really hate crypto and the community you should just leave and do your own thing. "

". . .you seemed like a smart guy that was just bad at marketing and should have released this coin in 2017-2019 because it might have been a big hit."-Sorry. It takes time to develop ideas. We are talking about solving one of the most important scientific problems here. Making secure cryptography takes time and thought. I get it, to be good at marketing, one should simply lie as much as possible, but I am not interested in that. I would rather tell the truth.

"Why not elaborate on the research and tell the exchanges? Granted most exchanges are in it for the money so you'd have to pay them to list your coin. Try a small exchange and work your way up in hype as others have but you have to prove your development to the masses to get really big."-This is a bad deal. I am not willing to pay money for Circcash to be on any garbage exchange.  I do not trust exchanges at all, so I sure as hell would not want to give them any money.


"I still disagree with your statement some what as I don't think crypto is "hateful" I can see it being used for "evil" in terms of CBDCs but there is always greed in the markets. What exactly is "my place" elaborate on that?"-Saying you disagree with me will not convince me otherwise. The only thing that will convince me otherwise is if you simply did better and made yourself a better person.

"Language, my dear doctor. Language!"-Honesty is a b***h.


"If you expect people to take you seriously, start talking with sense, not with sentiment."--I tried that. People lack the intelligence to understand me, and they are too arrogant to ask a question when they do not understand.

"If you expect people to take you seriously, start talking with sense, not with sentiment."-If you are unwilling to have a decent and respectful conversation, what more evidence do we need?

"In the blockchain industry, you can't please everyone because we're talking about money here. You can't ask everyone to believe or trust everything that you say no matter how sincere or sentimental you are."-You are the one who is being 'sentimental' since you do not have the appropriate context to respond appropriately.

"We all need to be skeptical when it comes to investment and trusting new projects or even exchanges so don't get offended if you would hear negative feedback from the crypto community."-The only thing that the cryptocurrency community is skeptical of is scientific facts because the cryptocurrency community hates science.

"Instead of screaming that you're being hated and hurt, why don't you just prove your point out and prove them wrong?"-People do not listen because I talk math and science and the cryptocurrency community ironically hates math and science.


"that's why we are obliged to learn and understand first so that we can mature our hearts and not be easily influenced by these things."-And the cryptocurrency community has not made a decent effort at understanding cryptocurrencies.

"so it is not all negative people that you will encounter here, there are also people who are passionate in this market that are willing to share their expertise."-If only the negative people are the ones who talk to me, then I will assume that the cryptocurrency community is generally negative. And it will take a long time for me to change my opinion of this because the cryptocurrency community has already damaged its reputation.

"Some people expect that they can harvest a lot of money on it but turn out to see how difficult when they experience to lose money by their own greediness."-I have a Ph.D. in Mathematics, and I use mathematics and cryptocurrency technologies to solve some of the most important scientific problems. People in the cryptocurrency community hate this because they are rabid ogres.

"In my opinion, so long as you are dealing with the public, you have to prepare your mind for all kinds of characters."-In the cryptocurrency sector, there are all kinds of characters except for the upright, moral, and decent ones.

"And remember, we are in the bear market, so there could be some tendency for people to find out more if they will loose or gain."-People were just as nasty during the bull market.

"Time always vindicates those who are on the right track  - because people will win their trust over time. Some successful projects today started with people doubting and even objecting to the project."-I hope this is true.

This is related to the risk of the crypto world. We cannot deny that the crypto world always involves high risks. We are aware that all jobs will involve risks, but crypto may be at a higher level. Here, the crypto sector is hateful and evil, probably this is true enough if we are thinking from only one side, the negativeness of crypto. But, when we are seeing from the opposite crypto sector will be one of those that really brings so many benefits to many people in the world. The one that can really change someone's life much better than previously. This is based on a different mindset. Even a bad thing will always have also good things if we can manage it. If our mindset has been clear enough that we think crypto is hateful and evil, this will be gonna be like this. But once again, if we can take more advantages, why not?

Stay on topic. I am not even talking about risk. Yes. There is a great risk in assuming that there exists intelligent people because intelligent people are a rare breed. I say that the cryptocurrency sector is hateful and evil because Bitcoiners and crypto chlurcmklets are some of the most asinine piles of trash imaginable. Sadly, Bitcoiners and all other crypto chlurcmklets have absolutely no place in decent society.

Stay on topic. I am not even talking about risk. Yes. There is a great risk in assuming that there exists intelligent people because intelligent people are a rare breed. I say that the cryptocurrency sector is hateful and evil because Bitcoiners and crypto chlurcmklets are some of the most asinine piles of trash imaginable. Sadly, Bitcoiners and all other crypto chlurcmklets have absolutely no place in decent society.
[/quote]
I've decided that maybe best course of action is not to brush you off as a crazy person, and i am nor saying you aren't, but maybe forcing you face reality as a mirror to is most productive way. Because dependin where you live you most likely already have faced psychiaric help.

But "stay on topic"? You already made another topic where you were against univesities yet you claim WE hate education. Yet you were willing to tell anything about details. I can't underline enough how much this doesn't make any sense and your obsession about bodily functions tells another story that would need a speacialist to decrypt, But somehow you have decided that i and everyone here who have been totally appropriate are to blame for "something". Which i only assume has something to do with altcoin you created.

Please do the world a favor, and go defecate inside your dead mother's mouth ehh go away. I was a professor. I hate what universities have become because universities promote violence. Anyone who likes what universities have become and how they promote violence is a worthless chlurcmklet who hates education. Universities need to apologize for promoting violence. I will give details to people who ask nicely. If people do not ask nicely or do not ask at all, then I will not get any details. You have not been appropriate since you think I am a crazy person because I am calling out universities for promoting violence against me. You are the one who is promoting violence because you are a Nazi and a defecator. This thread is not about any altcoin. It is about the entire cryptocurrency community and their hatred and evil.

Like a coin that has 2 sides, each side has a different meaning depending on how we see it. Negative and positive sides will always be attached to anything, especially when it comes to things that have lots of pros and cons. Back to how we see it. If we focus too much on the negative side, then we won't find anything positive. Also if you see too much positive, then the negative side will sink more. We have to look in one direction which we can then call careful. There will always be risks, but those risks can be prevented if we know what to do.

Fesatmas-

The good-All the mathematics and technology behind cryptocurrency technologies.

The bad-All the people in the cryptocurrency sector except for me (and maybe a couple other people; I have never met then, but they may exist).

I guess that the good and the bad cancel out.

Crypto is a technology, people are Free to use the way they want so we can't call cryoto an evil thing, it's true that many people lost their money (as an example what happened with FTX) but the problem here is surely not in crypto but in the FTX founder and the people that did trust him

Exchanges now take the lessons and start doing things like proof of reserve and people must also take the lessons and stop using exchanges as a store of funds

Prince Malik-I agree that the problem is not with the technology but with the people. This is why this thread is about the community. The cryptocurrency community is too demented to realize that maybe they should

1. not keep their money on any exchange,

2. not trust FTX or Sam Friedman bank because Sam and FTX were incredibly unprofessional, and

3. not trust any exchange that refuses to trade cryptocurrencies where the mining algorithm is designed to solve the most important scientific problem. Any exchange that hates science so much should not be trusted at all.

The cryptocurrency community should also stop hating the educated people who are trying to innovate. By being anti-innovative, the cryptocurrency community is attracting nothing but scammers.

"Here, the crypto sector is hateful and evil, probably this is true enough if we are thinking from only one side, the negativeness of crypto. But, when we are seeing from the opposite crypto sector will be one of those that really brings so many benefits to many people in the world."-People are not smart enough nor kind enough to benefit from cryptocurrencies.

"If our mindset has been clear enough that we think crypto is hateful and evil, this will be gonna be like this. But once again, if we can take more advantages, why not?"-My mindset was that cryptocurrencies are very good, and I originally believed that the cryptocurrency community was kind and decent. But this is clearly not the case. The Bitcoin community cannot even properly categorize this thread because this thread is not about any particular altcoin. This thread is about the cryptocurrency community. The cryptocurrency community needs to be more respectable.

Yes it is, but how much harm is done by those who do not look at who they harm. It was their greed that made the crash at FTX happen that it also caused a lot of people to lose their money in a very short time.
This is indeed something that could very well happen, what I regret is that it also creates a bad narrative against crypto itself. Like for example are FUDs, they were there even before something hit FTX, but after this incident more and more FUDs are spreading. This is homework for all of us to think about how to prevent the same incident from happening again.