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Hi everyone,guys
I had an idea to create a group chat for members of this forum
People here are familiar with cryptocurrencies and know what they are dealing with
What if we create a small chat in telegram and share trading tips with each other?
Not only analyze the market,but also communicate,share interesting stories about how someone got into cryptocurrency
I haven't seen such a suggestion on this forum and i would like to implement it
I believe people and i think that in such difficult times we have to stick together somehow
What do you think?
I may not be able to make it because people on this forum have become mean lately,but i want to try :(
Write in personal messages if you have an idea or a desire to implement it
Don't be shy ;D

It may lead to buying and selling signals. In one way or the other, it may lead to some old members on the group to find it easy to scam  new people that are joining the group.

Also this forum is enough to post what is in your mind about cryptocurrencies, this forum brings transparency which is better.

You can create a thread on this forum instead about the coins, tokens and trading patterns of your interest to see people's opinions and advices about it.

If it is telegram group, I can never join.

Why?
I suggested telegram as a platform for communication
Everyone would have access to it quickly and from their smartphone

It's okay to create whatever discussion group you want and openly invite some people to join you there regardless of whether you invite people from other forums or social media. Actually, there are lots of discussion groups out there that might be created by certain people or groups, paid or free, but I have no intention of joining.

If you talk about bad members, I guess anywhere you will find bad members. Even you should know that telegram is actually a haven for scammers. So maybe you need to spread awareness about the potential risks that might arise through your discussion group.

Nothing to be shy about here, but frankly, this is simply not necessary because BTT is already a community where anyone can share their views at different sections of choice depending on what they want to convey. Except that we can't receive instant messages on our gadgets like Telegram and others. Still, one could subscribe to any thread of interest and would receive prompt messages from the Telegram notifier if need be for that.

This is not to discourage your idea entirely, but to encourage you that you might still create the group for the interested members, while the notifier would be able to convey all messages promptly to gadgets inasmuch as the targeted audiences are quoted.

If you're talking about creating for the members of this forum, i will say we dont need one because i personally dont like spending much time in trading but if you're talking about creating a telegram for the forum user who are day trader that may work. However, 80% of this forum reputable user sees telegram as scam paradise.


This is what Wall Observer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.632620) is used for though the discussions are mainly monitoring and discussing changes in the price of Bitcoin.

In case you missed it, the forum has an unofficial discord server, see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247383.0

I know it's not telegram, but at least in discord you can block DMs from strangers. I say it's a must feature since scams DMs from crypto communities are a lot more prevalent in my experience.


If you want the opinion of bitcointalk people, taking the discussions here is still a hundred times better. One, more people will see it. Two, you'll have less worries about scammers/trollers impersonating a member from here.

Yes we already have a discord server. But back when I joined it, I find it quite boring and dead. I mean no one was interested to talk there and it was just there for the sake of discord. The things mentioned in the OP are quite good, but again as he is talking about telegram, then it’s completely impossible. Telegram is the place of scammers. If you just create a group and share the link publicly, the group will be flooded with promotional messages. I appreciate the effort by OP, but to be honest it’s practically not possible.

The forum already have the official discord channel. You can start your own unofficial global channel if you like people here is not active on social media chat apps because forum is just our hobby while chatting about trading is not an efficient way to kill time social media apps. I’d rather charting with friends rather than discuss with same people here in the forum the same topic here on the social media apps.

I believe some local boards has there own local telegram channel dedicated for Bitcointalk. You can try to create unofficial group but don’t expect much that user here will join there and become active. There post here is being paid for the same content they will same on telegram.

There is enough crypto communication already ongoing here in the forum, and as for trading, it is not a bad idea if there are interested people. I know many crypto traders already have one or two trading signal chat from telegram or discord which they follow. An addition won't hurt if the information they will get has quality. Perhaps, like-minded traders as you will most likely find it interesting provided it is well moderated,

OP can have a good plan which may be hijack later by the telegram people or op also has the plan to turn that for telegram pay group. Pay group is not getting that kind of promotion here because people get to scam others often so the trust is reduced and when you talk about such people don't get in except newbie.

I don't think, people will join you in that chat room, because many people have learned from their mistakes by joining other social media on the name of spreading the good news of cryptocurrency that made them to ended up in the hands of scammers. If truly, you have something good to contribute for the development of the crypto users, I guess this is the best platform to share it so that the family will look into it, if it will favour the users or not because we have smart members here.

Guys,i'll answer all at once
Why does everyone think of telegram as a scammer's paradise these days?
I don't want to charge anyone and was not going to in the future
It's just the largest community of people who are engaged in cryptocurrency and it is here that you have to offer it
I don't want to sell or offer anything to anyone
Only friendly communication

That is why we have many sections of this forum and every sections has its own function, i believe there is no questions and chats that has not been shared here in as much as you keep reading through all the various sections then you could find one instead of creating telegram group chat.
Disadvantage of creating such group which likely leads to so many things;
1. Scam
2. Spamming
3. Sharing non crypto related contents
4. Faking a reputable member profile
5. Group might be hack or hijack
6. Unauthorized users could joining the group without permission.
and etc, which i found not necessary for we to create another group out from this forum. Basically this forum have served it all for you to create post ask question and share all manner of tips which you wanted.

You think this forum isn't enough with you to create your post and share all forms crypto related issues?
bear with me that you are trying to endanger yourself by creating a room for people to scam you so easily which will results to unwanted personal messages from many users. Hey man lot can be done here if you only locates the right sections of your post.

I think the same, in telegram there is not a reputation or flag system in place, and while it is not foolproof at least it is something, this forum is precisely the platform that we can use to give each other support, besides I think the forum format works better for this purpose, telegram is simply too chaotic and it is the equivalent of a group of people shouting across the room with each person wanting to talk about something different, the forum keeps our thoughts and conversations organized and it is easier to keep track of what everyone is saying.

Because it does.
I have gotten so many impersonators pm'ed trying to be a team of "reputable" swaps and exchanges telling people to do something for them.
Also with so many bots you can find for their own benefit in every channels you can find about cryptocurrency, you will find your channel swarmed with full of bots. Of course you can hire moderators to fight against these bots but still it doesn't avoid the fact that there will be more bots coming.

Your suggestion is great and I do appreciate that. But telegram is not the way and I also would not recommend that
Because people would prefer to talk with few peoples that they already familiar with or with other application they use which is not telegram of course.

You can try to make it and no one is going to stop you from doing that.
But just make sure to actually fully-moderate the channel because you will always get some unwanted guests from time to time.

I don't think anybody will stop you from creating Telegram group, but let me be honest with you if you think you are going to drop the Telegram group link on the forum here and you think people will join, then you are wrong, i don't think people in the forum will join. You might get people outside the forum to join your group and make discussion, but just few forum members will join.
If you want the forum members to make contributions to your post, then you should start the conversation within the forum, anything outside the forum am sure most people won't be interested.

We all know that Telegram is full of scammers, I don't know how you are going to handle that because am sure their are lot's of people that will be sending group members personal messages claiming they are group admin and having intention to scam the group member, I don't know how you are going to stop that.

At the very least, I will not support the creation of a Telegram chat. We are all aware that Telegram is a safe haven for scammers. If you create a Telegram chat, a lot of scams will take place because it is not moderated or an official channel. So it's best not to do it in the first place. If necessary, you may communicate with anyone via forum PM in any way. I believe this is an old idea that was rejected by the community.

You can do that on this platform here and it can still be resourceful to help everyone who is interested to follow but telegram can restrict people because of the money or frees that will be charged. You can say it is free to win people over to you and after that you go back to collecting fees for your telegram service so people will be doubtful about your offer.

I don't think it is a good idea. This forum discussion is enough to share our opinions, information, and also have some discussion. As we know, forum chat will probably become:
- A way for more scams
- Spams
- Never-ending Advs
- Fool similar questions as always
- Unnecessary chats
and may more in which this is no need to do.

It may not be helpful for your suggestion but there are people who doesn't like to be bothered so they may not want to join with your idea. Also, you can DM them here if you want their help that's a lot better than asking them to join with you since you aren't a well-known who has a reputation on this forum.

Or maybe create a thread so that everyone can see what you guys been talking just like how they were making discussion and trading signal in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0).

Well,guys,thank you all
By saying that no one will join and that i will charge for something you thereby entrench in the minds of people on this forum that it will be so
And all of you saying it won't work also prevents me from doing it
Once again,thank you all very much

In my experience, people who are making a lot in cryptocurrency are not the type that will talk to people, share their experience, share tips, most of all they are not gonna share their signals, if that includes in what you're looking for. Lucky you if you find genuine and generous people that will guide you in trading without any hesitation or without any money involve as a payment for their goodness.

You can do what you see useful to you and the crypto community. The Telegram group needs active moderators to prevent spam, scams, and members with negative trust in the forum. Frankly, the Bitcointalk forum has many active moderators who are dedicated to deleting posts from anyone who violates the forum rules. For me, this forum is a good platform and a safe place for us to learn from each other, as there are many meaningful discussions and members with a great experience. You will have a long time to form a community that includes members with expertise on Telegram, so you can try, and I am happy to be the first to join you ^ ^

You don't have to bother making small talk about what you want to discuss. This forum has become a complete package that you can take advantage of, besides that it also keeps scammers out of our reach because Telegram is the best place for scammers to attack everyone who joins.
Simply creating a thread on this forum about what you want to chat about is more than enough, and the advantage compared to chatting on telegram or other group chats is that creating a thread on this forum will become history on the forum so people who ask the same thing will get their answer. rather than in the telegram group which can be left at any time and there is no guarantee that history can be recorded perfectly.
You have good goals, but of course, they have to be in the right place.

Their is no reason for such Idea of creating telegram group for sharing trading tip. Bitcointalk is a place where trading tip can be also shared for members to discuss about it. In the same forum members can communicate in discussion,  share interesting stories concerning cryptocurrency,  so I don't see any reason why you should think of creating telegram group. Bitcointalk is a home to discuss everything concerning cryptocurrency,  the forum is not selective in discussion concerning cryptocurrency.

for me there is no need to create a chat group about crypto or about trading.
this forum for me has quite a lot of complete chat and a lot of chat about crypto etc.
if there is a chat group on telegram for members of this forum i think it will not work well and later it will only be misused to spread referral links

We already have a discord server and many just prefer the website itself.

There are already tons and tons of discord and slack servers for many crypto projects or basic crypto trading. And honestly if you ever been inside one of those servers you will see how many scams are
Going around. Basically people PM you and trying to get your seed to steal your funds. Don’t think we need more of that.

It's obvious after a period of time some scammers will definitely inflitrate the telegram group disguising like real forum members whereas with an ulterior motive to scam unsuspecting members of the group, let the OP post any trading signal here with in-depth analysis especially technical analysis detailed with a chart provided that it's a long term trading or swing trading signal I am very sure there are experienced traders that will validate those signals and a lot of new traders will learn from those setup with this issue of scammers taking over the group will be defeated.

I've seen a couple of Discord servers that were posted here in the forum, and I am sure there are already a lot of them since it is easy to create them, but most of the users really want to communicate here in the forum, so it is not necessary to create one since we are already communicating here and it is working the same as those messaging platforms. I am also not interested in joining this chat room since the forum is already perfect for exchanging information and there are no spam posts, unlike in a room where there is a lot of spam and at the same time, it is difficult to backread messages as a lot of messages keep popping up.

I used to join many telegram groups, but the result is that I am bothered a lot by messages from strangers, as they have been building the group for a while. When the team members are large enough, they will use them for promotional purposes for their for-profit projects.
Honestly, if it's a private group with a limited number of members and just for a chat, no spam, no ads, IM very pleasant. But if it's a free and open group then I won't join, it will create more pressure on us.

From my my concept i don't think that creating a group a telegram group chat is ideals, because i believe that the community of bitcointalk is due to process or listen any information that concerns cryptocurrency and other various function of cryptocurrency, i believe that here will give you whatever you want concerning information of cryptocurrency trading.

Why?  It just seems you can keep everything above board here.  Not saying always, but quite a bit, when things leave the forum they fall apart- i.e, scams, self-interest, manipulation, etc.

A forum is different from a small chat like in telegram because exchanging messages there are instant. The only problem with tg is that so many scammers lurks on there. Anyone can pretend to be someone else which is scary while here in the forum, we have newbie protection here. So, not anyone can message you privately. On some forum, there is a chat box function.

I do not know if that is also possible to implement on this kind of forum we have but if it is then great. People can have fun there chatting when they are bored. There is no need for us to go to any other third party sites as they can be very risky. Bitcointalk forum is already a one stop shop for all of our crypto needs.

That's true. I had a peep into the discord server and it was rowdy for me, and too fast with responses that one struggles to keep up with that, joggling between reading and comprehension before the next batch of messages are released. I prefer it here in this forum.

There are a lot of groups already and that's the platform that others have chosen. While here, this is our platform of communication we can discuss things related to trading, crypto, and any other related stuff. And as I know there have been dedicated channels and group chats made by other forum members but still, the majority of us here prefer to stay and get in touch through the forum. Although having other channels is good when you think that's necessary for you.

This would have been a nice idea frankly but just as many others  had said earlier that it wouldn't be nice doing so because it would end up a disaster.
We all know that there all lots of restrictions in terms of communication as people would prefer to share their ideas straight up in a topic and never go back to check on them rather than discuss on the topic and creating a telegram group would really help solve this issue as people would also get the opportunity to talk to folks from other international countries and possibly share ideas and as for the issue if spam, people might easily identify such.

It's ok if you feel like creating a telegram chat group to share your trading skills and experience with friends and if anyone is interested they can join at their own will and not spamming members' pm with links to the telegram group.

If you create the telegram group, you can post the link in public, and anyone interested can join.

But make sure whatever it is you follow the rules of the forum which is why is better not to deal with members off the forum.

There is no reason to create a new telegram group at a time when there are a huge number of such groups. Can't you find a group on your own that would help you deal with the questions you have? If you really don't understand something, try using the search, or directly ask your questions and you will definitely get an answer.

There are several concerns about the creation of such a group. The OP hopes to communicate in this group of people who are registered on the forum, he writes that the entrance will be free and free, that is, not only people from the forum can be participants, since anyone who wants to can enter the group. Any person who thinks that he is corresponding with a user from the forum can fall into the hands of a scammer, who simply uses the nickname of the person from the forum. It has already been here on the forum, and there were complaints.
Therefore, open communication here on the forum is the best option, without groups and separate conversations and agreements outside the forum.

Who will be the moderator and admin of the group? You are right that telegram was created as a means of communication but the difference with this forum is that in this forum account ownership can be verified through sign messages and also any trusted members can be seen from their account while telegram is very well known to be the most comfortable place for scammers, so your idea won't work well and also get a good response from forum members because they believe this forum is the right place to share information

That's a nice idea because communicating with another crypto enthusiast would help us gain more tips and strategies on how to grow in our journey but I also find it risky because just like other platforms that were originally made for communication are beging taken advantage of by scammers and hackers.
I think our interactions through topics on this forum are already enough for us to communicate in a knowledgeable way wherein we could share our ideas and suggestions about blockchain technology.

Joining all this can leads someone to scam, so that's while many people do skip anything concerning cryptocurrency multi social media group, because scammers have numerous numbers of ways of scamming people through the strategies of investment, so it's good we not involve investment into social media group were you be ask to make payments to get something that is not valuable.

Not really no, don't really want to associate some of my personal accounts with this one, and can't be bothered to create a new one solely for the use of a chatroom of this forums' users. Not to mention if it was just a price discussion or something, Wall observer is there, and finding a small group would probably be a lot better. There are also a lot of outside groups out there, they aren't exactly any different from one you propose to make. We also had a discord server iirc made back then, I don't think it ever got that big (or active) though.

There are multiple possible problems when we have such telegram group; here are few:
1. People will try to convince you to follow their pump and dump coins/tokens.
2. People will try to add you to scammy groups or will try to sell your telegarm handles.
3. People will beg you by watching your campaign/bounty earnings.

So, a group started for trading discussion will become a chit-chat one for unwanted things. So, I guess if you are able to moderate with set of strict rules then you may go for it otherwise such group will not serve the targeted purpose.

The OP should be aware that every discussion is discussed publicly here and that there is no need for private chat outside of the forum, so I don't even think a public group chart outside of this one is necessary. Because everything pertaining to Bitcoin is shared in this forum with everyone, it is up to forum users to decide whether or not to use it. This forum serves as our own group chat. I didn't think it was a good idea to start a Telegram group chat for various purposes.

I tell you a harsh reality of such groups. They are all created in good faith and intentions but at some point they either become paid puppets thanks to the lucrative offers from scam meme coins or they simply become a place for shilling.

I think this forum is exactly what you are asking about. Yes it's not as clean as chat but you at least get to keep the topics on topic and moderators are quick enough to delete any spam here which is not possible on telegram since there are bots shilling all day.

I have been into many trading and discussion groups and apart from a few closed groups (invite only entry), most of them have died.

You couldn't have said it better. Adding a chat option would in my honest opinion defeat the purpose and simplicity of the forum which is what we are already enjoying at the moment. Besides, I do not think the forum programming has a room for that. Aside members trying to scam others it would leave room for ambiguity and complexity. A candid suggestion if you got an idea you want to share with a member or maybe you got something to say, you may just PM the user.

There are so many Trading/sharing groups that i come to be part in the past but eventually as the members growing ? the group changes to another selling and buying and also signal giving for Shit project that tries to victimize new members so meaning? best to deal with your self , try to ask what you wanted to hear here in forum so experts and legit people will answer you than random people that hides in group .

Well, this is similar to comparing Live chat vs Email support. You get help from both but the live chat is such a thing that you feel connected while the email support is an old way of solving problems. Yes the forum is good and all but it's not as fluent as a chat group where people can actually engage in active discussions.

Excellently mentioned. There are a few other issues that you will face after joining any such groups and that is constant DM spam because there are projects who will scrap the members list from these groups and constantly spam you with their links. I am not even afraid of getting scammed by these projects but it's just annoying to have so many messages all day.

I have been part of plenty of chat groups in crypto world before, first of all bitcointalk had a discord channel and there aren't that many people chatting there, and there are plenty of telegram tries as well, and telegram had so many crypto groups too that you can join.

I can easily say that it all works with hype, they do ignore many shitcoins when people try to shill or promote, but when it is clearly something that wouldn't be working good then you do realize that it's not going to be that easy and it will cause a lot of trouble. I am not saying that it's a good thing or a bad thing, it's obvious that we are talking about something that is just not fruitful or helpful, it's just entertainment.

Well it is just because of wasting time.
Even on my own, I will not give much time on social media chatting with friends, how much more in a group than people who you don't know.
When there is a group like this, I may think that they are usually a pump-and-dump group that builds a community for their own good. I have been there before on the Binance telegram group before, but nothing you will learn there is just an updated price. Some people there created hype about a coin that they wanted to pump.

I wonder what the forum is for. There is is reason why this platform isn't a .com/.io domain site but, a .org for a domain. You might want to check out what it means to means to a forum? @OP. It creates an avenue for discussion and self expression. Sharing of ideas is what is done here and it won't get any better elsewhere.

You might thi think of a group chat as some better place to get closer and share ideas but, comes freedom, comes garbage and not being responsible for actions in which people are being exposed to.
There are more users here than you you have in any group and filtered understanding yo whatever concept there is. Take your chances withwwhat you could find in the forum and you'll be good. Chat group, bad idea!

I think someone has suggested something similar previously.

Since this group is created to be a place for people communicating, we don't really need such group chat.
If you want to share trading tips, trading news, or anything related to trading, you can write it down here. We have no problem discussing it here, everything looks fine. So, as long as we have no problems, IMO we don't need such group chat.

I think it's better to communicate here on the forum rather then creating any telegram group which will also bring scammers to it posting fake links or say false signals pumping shitcoin for temporary period.So this is also good place as we have separate board for trading related discussions and can do the same here but if you are interested and some other members agree with you on this go ahead.

Also, you need to maintain it since there are trolls who will be posting, and imagine around a few thousands spammers will spam that chat box. How do you communicate with that? I imagine the struggle if there are a lot of users that will be joining this telegram group. I am sure if you send a message, your message will be on the top, followed by 500 messages that were also sent. It is only reasonable to create such a group if members are just a few, like a couple of hundred.

Some users can create multiple account for trolling on the chat box created this is the reason why its better to create a thread which is intended for trading talks since from this we can filter out correctly if we are dealing with legitimate forum users and we can see a decent discussion made by their honest opinion towards what they observe on the market.

Also planning to create this might also give wrong impression to the intentions of people who created that since some other might think thag this is created for scamming.

What happened to this forum if I may ask? is it impossible for someone to find all the information regarding cryptocurrencies they require here? (btt forum).
All of your stated justifications for why someone should join the telegram you will be setting up have been made clear here, and individuals received the better responses and solutions they required.

This forum has everything you need, and no one has been let down by it when it comes to quick access and communication with a smartphone. If those are the primary goals for creating the Telegram group, then it makes no sense to me though for joining your telegram group

When a certain chatgroup or box had been created which you would be experiencing these kind of things.

1. Trolling
2. Spamming out of ref links
3. Scamming attempt
4. Beggars
5. Pump and dump

These are very common users that you would really be able to encounter with those chatgroups
this is why its pointless on creating solely for forum members.

I think chat rooms can be a good way to connect with other traders and discuss strategies and other trade ideas. But it could also lead to scammers baiting  new traders, which would spoil the decorum of the chartroom, unless someone takes the responsibility to moderate it.

In my opinion Telegram group is the best option to make communications for one another and in this way people will get aware of the things which he does not have realize before but not every person is good one so no one wants in this world that someone become more successful than him. There will be lots of people who will spread wrong information and if someone gives you information then he will get payment and no one will be available there who teaches you free of cost. There are also many scammers who create Telegram groups and work in order to make money by giving wrong information

I have always had the intention of doing something like this but to exchange information, it is something that I liked, but it is difficult, because I know that there are groups of signals and that audience, only those who give the signals are not capable of saying why. Why not give your analysis, this is something that I do not like, for this reason I think it is very necessary to make a group either by Telegra, anywhere but to exchange ideas, I think that if everyone joins forces, everyone has different ways From thinking and seeing the market, many good things can be done, something can be tried, but each person must provide their analysis.