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I have been always curious about making money from games i love to play, since i was a little kid playing GTA games while there was no such live casinos and online betting i had this idea of what if there is a possibility of making money from playing.
We all know poker doesn’t require to be lucky as much as it requires you to be skilled to win, and even though we poker is still considered as gambling. I wish to know if these games such as FPS which you can put for example in a room of 10 players everyone puts 5 dollars and the winner takes the whole 50 dollars, Are considered as gambling.
And also if there’s any known and trusted website or casino that allows such games. I find them better than gambling and lucky games

That is gambling, but I do not know any gambling site that offers that. Even in evolution of gambling, that stage has been passed through in the past as people gathered and gamble for the winner to take the money won.

That is different from play-to-earn which I think is not profitable but having fake advertisments like download an app to play game, register to earn money, play more games and earn more money. But such things are waste of time and not gambling.

that is true, if you will think of the time you will be wasting on those activities, you will understand that you can devote this to other worthwhile activities that you can really earn something. most of the time, the earnings is just like pennies. don't know if anyone can really earn significant amount of money from such tasks.

That can somehow be considered as gambling. You are already playing and risking something and expecting to win more than what you put in. You put in the time and effort in exchange of competing with other people for the same pot. That's considered gambling to me. At the least you are getting something off of the effort you are exerting and that is great. I tried considering doing these back in the day but unfortunately, I don't have the personality and skills to be successful.

If you put in money or invest and hope for a return that is not guaranteed then it's gambling this game you're playing is very similar to the project I'm playing its DPET I put in $150 to buy PET in the hope of making money out of it, unfortunately, after over a year I only made $40 I don't know if I can still regain my investment you could lose from this play to earn too.


It's gambling if you put in money and you have to play each other for the pot and even though its a game of skill it still depends on luck it can be considered

Every game that involves money is considered gambling for me, so yeah, pay to earn could be in that category, that incentive is there in the end.

So in the example you put, FPS or First Person Shooter I will assume (correct me if I'm wrong), will have like a pot money and winner takes all, taking out the skills and luck, with money on the line, that is already the definition of gambling as there is money and there is incentive and the winner gets all the money.

Gambling can be done anywhere even though the game platform being played is a game that is far from gambling.
When some people put in 5 dollars for several missions that are done, the winner will get the pot that gets it is a type of gambling. In fact, not only in games, but on several other platforms, if there is such a system, it is also called gambling. However, it does not directly mention that the platform is gambling, because the activities carried out are included in the practice of gambling.

That's a gamble.

I've done that with my friends when we go from places to places just to play competitive games and have money on the line. That's normal for most of the games even in RPG games where there's PVP. I've seen people betting on who's the strongest.

Today, with most competitive games are online, it's easier to bet and have someone on their end that will just have to pay and sent the payment through online transfers or crypto, too easy to bet and play these days.

That is without a doubt a form of gambling, even if it requires skill it still falls under the umbrella of gambling just as poker does, however I was not aware that people did that for a living, I know some people play MMORPGs and they farm items or gold, and if they have a character which is high enough level and the place where they reside has a low cost of living then they could make a living out of it if they grind for long enough each day or if they are lucky and get a godly item.

Well yeah what you are talking about people in the past where they gamble on fights or horse racing which is available now online and well known more than what I’m looking for, i don’t see much games that are made to be played with such a plan of pay to earn
Play to earn games are a different story and such a waste of time and energy.

There is a lot of play to earn like the popular Axie Infinity and DPET you have to put in money and hope you employ a good strategy to make money so we can consider this gambling, you put in money that is like betting and you hope to beat your opponent or complete the obstacles in gambling that are trying to beat the house and there's no guarantee that you complete doing those task, so it's gambling.
You are not playing in a casino but all the elements are there like putting in money and hoping to win by doing tasks.

This too a kind of gambling. Here you're playing against the players, whereas with caisnos you play against the system. Play to earn is different from the method thats been putforth. In village region people used to bet within themselves while playing cards. The process is the same, everyone contributes equally and the winner takes everything. For users who are addicted to gaming, could prefer play to earn because the player receive very small rewards for the time spent.

Gambling is something that I know that I cannot be dependable on it because I know very well that gambling you can lose whatever thing you have in gambling you play so it is not something that you can make with someone to be doing any gambling is out of chance so I believe that and which is the information concerning gambling

That is still considered gambling since you put money and expect to get the money from other players when you win. I think that is not profitable for a casino since there is so much needed to get that going. They need refs, the location where players can play. I think that is why no casino is picking that up. Casinos only pick up professional tournaments and they act as bookies where you can bet for your favorite teams. It will be very expensive for them to host the event themselves.

I suggest, if you really are good at FPS games, then try to be a professional gamer. Rank up and get noticed by professional groups. They pay higher and with a contract, you are secured. If you are playing since you were young, then you should be very adept by now and can be a professional gamer if you pursue it. If you think you do not have enough skill to be professional gamer, then another choice is to stream games and earn from it. As long as you are entertaining to watch, you can have followers in social media and other streaming platforms.

Obviously, it's gambling since you risk money on something for the expectation to win those pot money. 

You are basically competing against those other players in the room. "Winners take all" therefore you compete for it.


I think none. Maybe you can instead form a mini-tournament against your friends or those who played that game.

For example, in the famous game, 8-ball Pool, you can compete with your friends there or even form your own tournament with stake money.

I think you have the wrong title it should be Play To EARN and not pay to earn if it pays to earn then it's investing in an investment package or staking your money, we have a lot of play to earn projects but they are not played in casinos, they are stand-alone projects they are mostly blockchain games which is good for transparency

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When we do speak about play to earn then this is something that do really attached with investment.We are really that fully aware about those defi's and nft games that we do have in the market which it could

potentially make you earn but of course you would be still needing to shell out some money for you to buy up a particular nft or something which could able to make you earn.

Gambling on the sense that you are putting up that risk which it is pertaining about community demand and interest and at the same time you wont know
on when rug pull does happen which there are couple of angles which you could really make your investment mess up.

There was a discussion before that is near about this question. I just can't find it.
Not just pay-to-earn but games with gacha rolls, premium items to buy in-game, and other kinds of stuff that are being bought with money are considered gambling too.
It's just better now because online games are paying back by means of cryptocurrencies where items can be sold for it.
Or, you could pick a game with an NFT option, make your avatar an NFT then trade it for cryptocurrency in their market.
If you are the type of hardcore grinder in MMORPGs, you could try Mir4.

The activity is considered as betting on something else, and it is gambling, but the game it self is not, obviously. It is even considered as an esports. Like i said on other threads in relation about games and gambling, all gambling can be considered as games, but not all games can be considered gambling. That is why we have sports betting.

From the way you shared an example, I don't see why it won't be called gambling.

Everyone put money, there's reward money, there's a prize pool, and you all guys compete for it to win.

I thought at first that you are referring to the usual "pay to earn" games but gambling inside a game itself. I don't see such games in casinos.

Based on your question and the example given, I don't think that it's about being a pay-to-earn or play-to-earn type of game but mostly gambling itself. Any games that include bets to play on among a number of players whereas the winner will take all bets and keep it for himself. That is already gambling even if it's a skill-based game regardless of its kind of game even if it is an FPS, MMORPG, or whatever it is. As long it involves a bet, the winner will take it all is considered as gambling.

Pay-to-Earn is more like about making your character stronger to be able to earn more and get better and the same goes for a play-to-earn type of game where the user grinds from time to time to be stronger and earn more. This is more likely an investment than gambling.

Play to earn is somewhat considered as gambling because you are already risking something the moment you decide to pay money just to play and then earn. Play to earn has really no guarantee that you will indeed earn in the long run. It might turn sour after some time, so you must always brace yourself from the unexpected. That's where the gambling concept is included in it. There's still uncertainty from profiting from it. It's still much better to have a source of income that is stable and has less risk involved to keep your peace of mind.

But if this p2e will only be your form of pass time and additional income, then it's all good as long as you won't fully depend on it for your needs. If you only want to try gambling and have some entertainment, taking the risk to the unknown future of the p2e (whether it will be successful or not) will be your form of gamble.

from the explanation you gave, in my opinion, this includes gambling because there is a risk that we will lose money while playing.

however the real pay to earn is not considered as gambling. Pay to earn is a marketing strategy that companies use to reward customers for engaging with their products or services. In this strategy, customers are given incentives such as discounts, free products, or other rewards for completing certain tasks, such as making a purchase, downloading an app, or signing up for a newsletter. Pay to earn is not considered gambling because there is no risk involved and customers are not betting anything of value.

I don't strictly consider this as gambling. I still consider this more as gaming especially if you are playing it not for the sake of money but for the sake of the game. But if your sole purpose there is to get the money then it is obviously gambling that prevails over gaming. The only element that makes this as gambling is the money involved. Without that, this is purely gaming. And I highly doubt that gamers would play it simply for the small amount that could be won.

I wouldn't call it gambling. That's a tournament, a competition. If it was considered gambling, bloody hell the entirety of the eSports scene would be considered one, the only difference is the prize pool was brought about by various investors instead (afaik). No matter how small the entirety of it is, as long as there's a prize pool, a game based on skill (>99% skill, <1 luck), and players, that's a competition.

If the risk of "losing" money was taken into account, a lot of small-scale tournaments ask for players to pay an entry fee of sorts (based from my experience), but I still wouldn't call that gambling, it's still a tournament. I'd only ever consider an activity as "gambling" if it had that instance of "randomness", bringing luck into the play, and said luck being the majority of the cause for the win/lose. Most competitive types of sports wouldn't really be considered as one, most of them are strategy/skill based.

It's still gambling because you're spending money to earn money and competing with other people for the prize money.
But if it's a game like GTA, Mobile Legend or any other game, you can make money from it because I see many people offering to sell their accounts to other people.
From there, they can get their money and if you are an expert in the game, you can generate many accounts to sell in the free market.
But I don't know if there is an online casino site like you mean.

Analyzing the scenario and comparing it with the definition of gambling.

10 players
bet or stake $5
prize pool $50

This is definitely a gambling because every one put a stake in order to get the pooled money.

The difference from the tournament is that, in tournament the reward does not come from the stake of individual players.  There may be an entrance fee but players are not betting against each other to get the reward.  They are competing to win the prize.


Not because it is a skill based it isn't considered as gambling.  As long as every individual has bet engagement, it is considered as gambling.  Tournament without gambling is way different, but of course a gambling can be integrated to tournament.

Yes, it is gambling. Whether it is not considered gambling in the traditional sense of the term is another matter, but everything in life evolves.


A tournament or competition where you put in some money at the beginning and can end up winning more. In other words, gambling.


That's it.

I feel like your example feels more like competition instead of gambling because people who are putting money are actively involved in it. But traditional poker on the other hand is very similar to your example. Its hard to say. I always felt gambling is totally luck based thing but games where you compete with your skill can also be gambling. But its very different type of gambling. I actually love when gamblers play against each other because its fun to watch.

It's gambling from one part and a competition from the other part.

When a group of friends come together I challenge themselves using money ( winner takes it all ) we easily consider this as a gamble.

when it's more international where a company decide to bring top players together to compete and win a price we all call it a competition but honestly it is still a gamble 🎰.

Yes it is not play to earn which is not gambling, it is gambling, people agreed to play game with their money, they bet together and whoever won the bet won the money. I have seen such on movies before, such things on movies are also happening in real life among both the rich people and people that are not rich. I can see some boys in my area playing table tennis and commonly throwing dice to gamble like this without the use of a betting site.

If you are playing a game and you are putting money in the game in order to make more money, this might be gambling, but it might be a scam.
Play-to-earn games like Axie Infinity seem more like ponzi scams rather than gambling to me. If there's no luck factor in the game(and the game is pretty boring) and the players are simply incentivized to put more money in order to get bigger profits, this is a HYIP/ponzi scam.
Of course there are games like CS:GO, where you spend money to buy skins, but you don't do it with the intent of making more money.

Even conventional works when people stake money hoping to win and the winners are normally paid from the pool of looser while losers go empty. As long as people come to play a game and money is involved, its gambling. It is not gambling if each player doesn't stake money with the intention to win. An example might be if someone promises to give the winner a some of money without the contribution or bet of the players. This one can be called competition with a prize and not necessarily gambling.
This kind of games is popular in my location and it is always done manually or physically. I am not aware of any casino that offers such services.   

First of all, let's define what is gambling and base on a quick google search, this is what gambling means:
In the scenario that you shared, it is a form of betting therefore, it is considered as gambling. The term "uncertain outcome" can be applied in the FPS game that you shared because you don't know if you will win or not. Winning of something else of value is the $50.

Overall, pay to earn is considered gambling since you are paying a specific value so that you will earn more money but the chances of you winning is uncertain. Now with regards to the websites or casino who are allowing such games, I don't know if there are sites who are offering those kinds of games or at least similar to that.

Well, we have been quite gambling when we play online games. Sometimes it requires you to pay or buy special item to make your character even more stronger, so you can get ahead of everyone to acquire rare items that you can sell in the market. That's quite gambling right there, you are paying for the total unknown ahead of you on whether or not you acquire these items that compensates all your expenses in game or make even more.
Another example was the betting system in Dota2, before the rise of the online casinos. There were this one segment in the platform in-game where you can put in-game items to bet on a participating team in the tournament called  TI (The international). I remember I bet rare and mythical items, some of this items are available in the market for purchasing- so that's like you're betting with real money.
IMO, as long as the game involves money, it will be most likely considered gambling.

Gambling or contest, doesn't matter.
He is just asking if there is something like this kind of game. I would also be interested to join like in a CSGO map and only 5 players per team and the team that wins get to earn the 50USD. If the team wins, they can divide the $50 among those who are still standing. It's a classic game that even the old-school can relate to.

Making money is not considered gambling. You can earn money in different ways. I think that if you earn money working for a company it is not considered gambling. But I consider gambling the way you talk about making money.

It's a competition and if the competition requires buy-in and there is a prize for the winner (and/or for second and third place) we can call it "more serious competition with serious & skilled players". It's not about earning money, it's about participating and playing against good players, it's how you sharp your skills.


By these words every sport or every activity is gambling! Someone spends money (a lot of money) to learn and later earn some money (a tennis player or engineer), but the question is will he ever learn enough to be good enough to start earning from that?

More than once I wrote that gambling can be everything, when you invest yourself (in any way) and you hope for more you are gambling! But let's not be so tough, we can't classify everything like pure gambling, sometimes it's about the competition and learning more from participating.

I've never seen this type of game in the casino, maybe as I'm not someone who researches all the casino games, I just limit myself to making sports bets for that reason, I don't know if there are these types of games in the casino, but I I think OP you can explore other games in the casino in case you don't have that specific game that you want, but always play only games in which you have some mastery or that at least is a game in which you realize that you learn with some ease, because in the casino you easily lose money, something that can even lead to bankruptcy, there are many cases of people who went bankrupt because they did not have control over the game

The poker that you mean is probably a kind of tournament where to enter the room you have to pay and all the money that is there can be taken by the winner, in my opinion it is considered gambling because you meet opponents and have to bet money to participate in the game, different from sites like Play To Earn, which gets free money without having to spend a penny, that might not be considered gambling, it's like starting a game and you get paid

That is also gambling but it is more betting between people like who is the best of the players,still can be considered gambling but that type of gambling rarely I have seen someone become addicted because of that so in this context is less dangerous than general gambling.

Poker is also a game where skills prevail,so if you have patience and know when to make your moves this can be considered as pay to earn for example when you buy in your place in a poker tournament.

That form of gaming can actually be considered gambling as well.
I'm not really familiar with your suggestions but I also see the possibility in your suggestions because aike online casinos can decide to add some local games like ludo and decide tye multi players to stake a price in the game and the price given to the final winner.

The play and earn games are generally worthless and it seems at the end, you were just lured to download and install one useless app that requires alot of work  and end up paying not upto $1.
In my perspective, play to earn games are just worthless.

Of course this is a gambling and also poker is one kind of gambling game. There is a many kind of site you can get these gambling games and also lucky games. 1xBet is a best site and also a trusted website which you see a lot of games like sportbetting, online casino, lucky game. I recommend you to visit this site.

What I know is that, you are gambling if you would earn something from what you have put into something or you'd get something and your opponent will lose something. These two are the principles I believe of what gambling is.
Maybe tournaments? Well, it is somehow of a gamble because there is a risk of losing. But in tournaments, the fees are for the organizer of the event so it is more of paying a service. It is just the idea of putting money and getting more as return but as it goes deeply with the scenario, it could be different.

Likewise with play to earn games. An investor would invest money as a capital to earn more money from the game. Maybe it is the purpose or goal of an individual which makes an activity gambling and not the instance itself.

We agree that placing $5 and the winner taking all $50 is gambling, even though we're just saying it's just for fun. If there were a game where you could make money playing the games you love, many people would change jobs and give the game a try because it's more of a challenge for them to get through level after level.

Poker does require us to have playing skills to be able to win but we also need luck and this won't come to us all the time.

But maybe you can try the games below:
1) Axie Infinity – Best PVP NFT Crypto Game.
2) The Sandbox – Best Crypto Game for Monetization.
3) Decentraland – Best Metaverse Game with Huge Potential.
4) Splinterlands – Best Prime Mover Blockchain Game With The Most Players.
5) Iluvium – Best Upcoming Crypto Game.
6) Revv Racing – Best NFT Racing Game.

As long as you're risking your funds in exchange for a profit by relying on luck, then that's gambling.Play-to-earnn games would require you to spend funds for you to be able to earn on the game so that's another form of gambling.
I just don't think that play to earn games nowadays is still worth it because you will be needing to spend long hours playing just to gain a small amount of profit. As for me, if you would risk your funds, you better look for better and higher opportunities to earn.

Provided money has been bet it's gambling. What you're doing here is relying on luck which can be associated with gambling. Most play to earn gamble comes with a contest that involves many players trying to win a prize by placing small bets and that's how they usually generate income to fund that completion.

For example when you organized a contest that involves the participants placing a bet of $5 and we have 100 participants that's $500 cash prize for one user to take all or shared between top winners, that's just the participants gambling. Gambling can be done in different forms and any activity can be gambled on

that's pure gambling. That's pretty much the same like when you put money and then the only winner who will be taking the whole of reward. that's different when you are competing like in the big competition. It's caused by the money being used as reward was coming from the creator of competition. I think that it can be seen from you were gambling your money to become a winner. Once you will be able to winning the match and then you will take opponent's money too. That means you are gambling and your skill was playing as a way to win the gambling.

Most of the games for stake come with a contest involving multiple players trying to win a prize by placing a small bet and that is how they are usually made of money to fund that settlement. But in tournaments, the costs for event organizers are more than fees.

It's just the idea of ​​putting money in and getting more in return, but on an in-depth look at the scenario, it could be different. Likewise with playing to get the game.

An investor will invest money as capital to get more money from the game. "more serious competition with serious & skilled players". It's not about making money, it's about participating and playing against good players, it's about how you hone your skills.