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I wouldn't say am much of a gambler the slightest bit, for so many reasons, but what stands as a peak reason for my concern is that of security.
All thanks to the advent of online casinos which gained massive popularity during the covid-19 era. Though the concern for security online as per being hacked or being a victim of phishing sites, looms. It is agreeably more fun visiting a live casino center with physically present spin machines.
Most of the places in my locale where these games are played seem to be a hub for miscreants looking for likely victims and observing the cash flow of individuals using these spin machines. It is not too long ago we learnt of the stabbing that happened in front of a las vegas casino and the recount of the perpetrator.

In a yuletide season as this, it is always advised to be cautious of locations one frequents, especially places where we have these spin machines; it is to save cash by preventing losing too much in the games and from unplanned mishap that might befall one when in the midst of such a surrounding.

Ever had such concerns for security when visiting live casino centers?  or do other reasons prevent you from using these live casino centers? (please state it).

https://abcnews.go.com/US/stabbed-front-las-vegas-casino-victim-dead-police/story?id=91123497

I'm no rich guy, but I do visit casinos every now and then to unwind and get a quick break from the stresses of life. Lately however I find myself preferring online casinos more than the live ones, but that is because I am a little lazy. What takes me a 10 min. walk towards the casino could've been used to spend money and possibly win and enjoy games on an online casino. Plus some Online houses offer some sort of live dealings which alleviates the awkward feeling of having to bet with a bot. Although of course the fear of getting hacked and be drained of all my winnings, or even my funds looms over me. It never really goes away. Guess that's part of betting. There's a plethora of risks you should be willing to take whether it be online or live casino gambling.

Casino security directly depends on how guarded the casino is, they usually place several people to secure the place so that nothing dangerous happens unless the casino is illegal and does not get permission from the local government.
In my place, there are no live casinos that can be visited, but in big cities, there are live gambling places that are operating but are illegal.
They are nowadays preferring online casinos because just lying in bed can open casino sites easily. But hacking online sites will be a problem for every user like phishing sites, malware, etc.
Live or Online Casino has their own advantages and disadvantages and depends on the needs.

Totally out of topic reply. :'(

Back on the topic in regarding with security then it would really be just normal that there are things which cant really be prevented nor be stopped specially on these kind or type of incidents.
If there were stabbing issues or incident then it is really that a flaw into their security on why they do let in a certain person who does really have that belonging but reading
up on the article it is really said to be having that kitchen knife, so where he did able to get that?
As a player then you should really be that vigilant most of the time because you dont know on what things would be ending up and there's
no such thing about being safe place, considering that casino does involved losing and winning then expect that there are ones who do have those impulsive
and cant be handles emotions.

I've had friends call me late at night to pick them up after winning a lot of money at casinos.  It's a genuine concern.  People will stake out winners and jump them in parking lots to steal winnings.  Casinos especially seem to have some of the shadiest customer bases of any place I can think of.  They also stay open late at night.  If you've got a ton of cash on you and it's late at night, walking through giant parking lots probably isn't the best idea.  Where I live you can carry a gun so it isn't the worst thing to have to do, but if you're able, having a friend who can pick you up right at the exit is the way to go.

Something that you could really see in movies which do actually happens in real life which is common sense.As long you do have that money and people around you at the casino do able to notice up that big win then
pretty sure that they would really be having those intent specially into those criminals which are really that longing on getting some cash.Basing on what you had said was totally that ideal on where there's something
should pick you up in front of casinos doors or else you cant really be that be so sure when it comes to your safety once you do step out your foot out on casino building.
They wont be held out liable.

The URL link of the news is very different from the post you're trying to discuss. I wonder who'd replied read it.

It's the man who came from the casino who stabbed the people outside of the casino for several reasons. Not the other way around.
The topic for the URL link you included should be those frustrated people who came from casino and causing trouble after, probably after lossing as the news says..

Edit: Seems the suspect didn't even have a chance to get inside, but just randomly attack anyone outside the hotel/casino.

I know about that and that's why I never go to these places all by myself. I usually take some friends so that we can have fun and watch each other's backs. It's the same with drinking at night and walking home alone. Drunk people have a habit of doing everything much slower so it takes them more time to find cash in their wallets and this allows others to take a peek inside.
I've heard of people stabbed in my city for no reason or beaten just because they were an easy target, but I've always walked with at least 1 friend and thankfully never been attacked.
Muggers rarely mess with 2 or more people, unless it's 2 drunk women.

This could also happen inside the casinos and the main concern of OP is the security.
Having an option to play online is a good one for our own physical safety but when it comes to online, there’s no guarantee for our safety since anything can happen and so far, most of the top casinos are still doing great and I didn’t see any news about a casino getting hacked. If you care much about your safety, don’t ever hold any crypto on your casino account.

Staking bets on Casino houses is fun and you've got to see the croupiers in real life and meet up with other people in lieu of building networks online, but staying in a Casino house consisting of drug dealers, button men, drunks etc is dangerous at night. Since such businesses are managed by different underworld families seeking control over territory, unexpected dramas could happen any moment. A target can be attacked there and an unlucky innocent player could get injured too. On the other hand, playing online is fun and calm. It'll boost your calculation on stakes without any mental or environmental distractions caused by noise or side talks. The fear of playing with bots should be considered, yet it doesn't matter if the live dealers operate on provably fair. The deal is to win a game and not if your competitor is human or bot. If you think you can't manage or handle the hassle attached to Casino houses I think the online Casino was built for you.

Security is something to really be concerned about in this period considering the very harsh economic situation that are forcing people who formerly decided that they would never indulge in some activities, to have a change of heart just to survive. These days even individuals who you least suspect can be criminals, turn out to be well dressed criminals. I would advise that for safety reasons if you must visit live casinos, only visit casinos that take their security seriously and do not just let any kind of individual use their service or hang around aimlessly without doing anything.

Inside the casino? No, there are no security concerns for me, obviously going out, but if you don't win big then I don't see criminals following you. There are a lot of security inside the casino and it's very hard to enter a deadly weapon because they will have to check you thoroughly before you can enter.

But if you win like the jackpot, for one I know that casinos will not simply left you go and go home, I mean they will give you a room before giving you your winnings because they want you to stay and still play with them.

At least here though, we haven't heard of anyone being held up at gun point outside the casino.

This is an isolated case.

At least use a correct example/reference.

Besides casino's security is too tight for such attack weapon to be sneaked inside and cause trouble there.  Unless it's a robbery attack like what had happen to Resorts World Manila.

Either you're ^{(as employee, client, or employeer)} going to a bank, pawn shop, ATM's, casino, or any financial related place. Security concerns should always be top priority.

Well in this case, it was around the vicinity of casinos and that's why as per the subject of the OP his concern about the security.

But in the article, he was able to get away in the beginning because he claim to be a chef. So that is a total lax in security of that casino on how the man was able to bring a knife inside.

So again, that's what the OP is asking us, if we feel safe going inside a casino because this incident can happen, but this is random.

It's like anything in life, you have to have self awareness and always be adjusting to the environment around you. The best protection is to try and work on your own fitness to be able to defend yourself when necessary. You can find horror stories from every type of place in the world, from nurseries, to garden centers to old peoples homes, to hospitals. Admittedly casinos will tend to have a few more drunk people around, however they have some of the most advanced security systems in the world which can deter an average thief who knows they'll be identified pretty easily. It's always a good idea to keep an eye on people who take bad losses because some people handle it very badly and may lash out.

There is nothing mentioned the he successfully brought the weapon inside or get away with the knife inside the casino. The suspect didn't even get a chance to go inside the casino.

For casino's security related response check my reply above.

On this aspect virtual casinos are much safer, because you don't expose yourself on the streets and public areas in order to gamble. You can play by the confort and safety of your home. If you hit the jackpot, you don't have to worry about being followed on your way back home by thieves, as you will be already at home!

On the other hand, when you go to land based casinos, you never know who can be behind you. This is the main security concern when playing at physical places. And when gambling is forbidden in your country you also have to worry about the police, besides the thieves, who can be in collusion with the casino itself.

Vices. In some land based casinos, smoking is allowed in the establishment which makes me avoid it. I'm not okay with the smell of their cigarettes and not to mention, second hand smoking is more dangerous. Another thing is life concerns as OP and other users have mentioned; just what if you've won a jackpot? Would you be safe once you got out of the casino? These are 'indirect' security issues but possibilities for sure would worry a player who's not used of playing on such establishments. This is also why I prefer playing online. Scam casinos could be avoided if you will be quite doing a research about the platform you are engaging yourself with. You may check for their reputation in the industry, ask for feedbacks from its players, and compare its offers to check if it is not unrealistic or if something is worrisome.

What I like in online is that it is saving you a lot of time from travel and you're just in your home being comfortable to gamble.

I think I'm already good with that and won't be urged to visit local casinos in my own decision. But if time permits and I have to go there, I'll be going but I know my limitations and it won't be broken.

Because in casinos locally, you'll be urged more especially when you're in a crowd and people cheering you up that you should spin some more, bet for more and you'll obliged with the urge of your peers.

The security of casino is not only online but also offline. To some extent I prefer online casinos sites more than online casinos halls. Physical things (photos, laptops, cash hearpod etc) lost in offline casino halls more than online casinos sites. Just that the amount that got frozen and some scam sites taken from gamblers is big than the offline casinos.

In some times, police would just worked in and arrest innocent people in the offline casino hall probably because of a suspect. Online casinos can be played at the comfort of your home/room.

I only have one physical casino that I go with the exception of a friend invitation. The first thing that I look for is security and I cannot remember an instance where there's no security in one of them. There will always be one doing body checks, inspecting bags, and IDs of those who he thinks are still minors.
I don't go there anymore, it's not about security on stabbing, pickpockets, or any theft but my main reason was to avoid getting the Covid19 sickness.
I'd rather stick at home and do online gambling plus it saves me transportation money.

Before covid or pandemic did happen then we arent really that mindful when it comes to health issues or anything related to that on which there are things where people do see it to be none so concerning.
I do believe that these places are really that strict when it comes to security where checks turns out to be that casual or normal.Basing up or reading up on the article which its really that questionable
on how those sharp objects did really get inside. This is my first time on hearing out news about people been stabbing out other people inside the casino.Its understandable about
frustrations and anger could be felt but its wrong that you would release all those stress and anger into other people.It is really just right that you would be in prison.

Casinos housea are not well patronized due to the fear of making some unscrupulous loses or the stress of taking a move from our comfort zone which could be our house or office to a casino house to make some bets. It is more easier and many persons find it very okay when we do it online without anyone knowing if we eventually gambler because of the bad omen it might cause when our friends or family discover this.

There are some religions that do not see a life I'm gambling, which much discrimination if they find out that there friends or family do engage in gambling, especially going to a casino or game house. It will be less obvious when we do our thing without our family knowing or colleagues.

Thinking of personal attachment and risks, there's really more risk in the land based casinos than staying at home and gambling. Let's go at the most optimistic situation that you may get and that's all about winning a lot and having a jackpot.

In online, you can keep that to yourself while in the land based, you'll get to see people looking at you when you're so happy and it's vulgar that you've won a jackpot. Who knows what are the feelings of those people that surrounds you? There could be the happy ones for you but, there could be the opposite motives that are already planning something just to approach you.

This is a problem only in third world gambling dens.

Most casinos have bouncers and cameras. When you win a lot of money you can call a cab or request one to be called for you by the casino. They'll get a legit cab not some uber wannabe and will know who they contacted so there's no way a driver would attack you or take you to his gangster buddies.

Basically the only weak point is that the cab driver will know where you live, but if you're worried about having a lot of cash on you, you can request the casino to hold the money for you until you can come back during the day and go straight to the bank. There's so many things that you can do to be safe.

There are more ways available to secure the winning amount. Same time we should also think of the opposite side. Same as we having multiple ways there'll be multiple ways to steal our money amidst the cameras and bouncers. In that perspective online gambling platforms provide with the best of security.

Carrying a lot of cash is always too risky and it's even riskier if you got that money from a casino where many people may've seen you cashing it out.
I don't know about other country but at least here, the few casinos we have are located in very safe areas surrounded by police stations and you can see police cars patrolling all the time. No criminal would dare to go there.
But it's always smart to spend the night at the casino's hotel, if they have one, and leave at the morning or have someone you trust waiting for you at the front door ready to pick you up.

if you do really are carrying large sum of money, then security is always at risk. because no matter how safe and secure the place is, there will always be an individual who would want to commit a crime just for the sake of money. this is eliminated when you are playing in online casinos. if you don't divulge your gambling activities to the social media or your winnings, you won't be the target of these fraudsters.

In my country (Philippines), there was a time where a famous gambling resort was burned down by a person and some suffered casualties in the process.

More than anything, my concern is my personal safety. Though lots of guards and police are stationed on our gambling resort, still, you cannot prevent an incident from happening especially if we are talking about some operations done by conspirators. Another concern is my spending habits. Given that these physical casinos offer lots of freebies if you win, they will try their best to compel you to stay in the area to gamble more.

Before, I used to have a problem with my discipline of spending especially in the casino. I am slowly but surely trying my best to focus on other ventures to keep my mind busy and prevent gambling. Though this may be the case, I guess I will be sticking to online gambling for now.

Fortunately, or unfortunately.... in my country casinos are prohibited.
But I already had the pleasure of visiting some of these establishments when I traveled abroad and I agree with you .... there is no benefit to online games that outweigh the pleasure of playing on a physical machine or at a real table with other players, the pleasure and adrenaline are immensely greater.

My advice to anyone who frequents these places is to look for casinos that value security, especially in controlling people's entry.

If this is not possible, go with a friend or close person... the fun is usually much greater and the safety too, as a possible aggressor will hardly attack a person who is accompanied.

It is also interesting that the person does not create a game routine every day, or always on the same day of the week and at the same time in the same place. There is always someone looking at these patterns, someone who can follow you and attack you not just in front of the machine but on your way home.

That's also the problem with our local casinos here. While they have a strict rule posted outside regarding those who just get inside and won't play, those who beg, even protocols on what not to wear, they're not really implemented. You will notice people wearing flipflops inside. You will notice people who are waiting for a chip or two from somebody who wins big or successively. There are a lot of bystanders inside. And it's not also very secure outside. A few meters from the casino and you could already be robbed of your money.

For this reason, it is better to play in a online casino, although a brick-and-mortar casino is still preferable if you are going out gambling with your friends.

Well, that was rather scary. Not really a fan of brick-and-mortar casinos, and rarely have I gone to them (and it also doesn't help that it's pretty rare in my area), so I can't exactly say that I've had any security concerns for casinos. In general, though I reckon any public place has those kinds of concerns, entertainment ones would be much more prone to such cases since extreme emotions often come up in them.

It's nothing new if you were looking at it from that point, casinos are places where people WITH money are after all. I reckon it's a place where most people who'd want to nab something to wander on. Security can help, but it's only to the point when they're inside. Outside? It's each to their own most of the time.

No, but I go to the casino by car or cab. I'm not going to go to the casino walking down the street with a good amount of money, and I live in an area where there is not much crime, but you never know who might be lurking. Whenever someone has seen you handling large amounts of cash, precautions should be taken.

Before the modern casino appeared at Las Vegas that were family friendly by offering a little bit of everything to everyone, casinos were always a place in which you needed to be very careful as there was always a chance that you could be robbed or something even worse could happen to you.

So your worries are not without reason as there are many casinos that still follow the old formula and are magnets for all kind of criminals, so if you are worried about them then maybe it is a good idea that you only gamble online from now on.

   - As far as I know, there are a lot of things like that in land-based casinos, this can be a disadvantage of a physical casino. Because maybe you just went to the live casino to entertain yourself, but sometimes when a gambler experiences a win often in an offline casino they don't realize that someone is already following them who are also gamblers inside the casino where the frequent winning here becomes the wick or the cause of a gambler's destruction because of the attempt to seize or steal what he wins.

So somehow I can say that online casino is safer compared to offline or live casinos. This is just based on my opinion that I also know that there is truth in what I am saying. I just don't know if others think the same way as me.

For this reason, if you want to visit offline casinos, you must be careful to bring your money because crime can happen anywhere and at any time without us can find out. This has often happened to many people, especially those who win the game or can get a jackpot from gambling. If we are the winner, we can ask for help from others or even hire security members to escort us from home to casinos and return home so that we can be safe and not get threats or attacks.

I was lucky because, since the Covid-19 attacks, I have not played in offline casinos and used online casinos more often than before. It's not because of concerns but because I can't go anywhere. I will still use offline casinos more often because I feel that online casinos can provide more comfort in playing gambling and having fun.

In the "Brick n Mortar" casinos in my area, you always get the offer to sleep in the adjacent hotel for the night, when you win something big. The security says, this is done to prevent people from following you out of the casino and robbing you, when they see you winning something big. (I think they do this, because they know you are going to spend more money at the Hotel or that you will return to the casino to gamble some more)  ::)

I never make a huge spectacle at the casino when I win something big.. to attract little attention to myself... and I always leave the casino in a large group. (Family and friends)  ;)  .....Always be Street smart... or you will become a victim.  :P

This miscreants get so addicted to all sort of crimes to a point where the don't mind if there are cameras at the Casinos. Physical Casinos has never been safe because the report of theft,  murder, taking of person's wallets, purses , monetary vouchers and other valuable items keep increasing

The case of theft becomes so rampant during seasons like this, because most of this slot machines are located where crowd gather to celebrate and it attracts all kinds of miscreants who target peoples wallets and purse that contains winnings. Also a time counterfeit currency circulates through this local out-door casinos not excluding those inside the Casinos.

During Christmas period such as this I have seen spots where individuals set up some local games, sometimes outdoor slot machines and the experience from gamblers were never funny during those periods. Most times it recorded issues of gamblers been stabbed or forcefully denied their winnings because they were no regulations guiding them during this seasons and this individuals operated illegally.

I've seen many casino houses with bouncers and security guards in them but that does not guarantees violation of the gambling ethics from them or any social form of misconduct which could be unacceptable by people or governments, if you're not the type that is used to the casino kinds of lifestyle, it will be difficult to cope with the kinds of gamblers you meet there because they are used to that kind of situations there, they know themselves and feels secured but only for a newbie or stranger got to feel unsecured amidst them.

I've never visited a live casino because it's not common in my area, and if it was there I wouldn't even consider doing it because playing online casino feels safer because playing at a live casino is the same as opening ourselves up that we are gamblers whereas if playing at a casino online we can choose which casino does not require KYC so there is no need to open personal data.

Crimes can happen everywhere even in Churches there were crimes committed, safety should be our concern wherever we are and we can do this if we know how to be observant of places and people so we should all practice safety and be observant of anything suspicious


Business establishments should make sure that they make their place safe they should hire security and install CCTV to protect their clients, if their customers and clients feel that they are not safe in their establishment they will lose customers, so if you're playing in a betting place like spin machines check out the company's security if they have good security measures if it fails to your expectation better not play there.

This is right especially if you enter a place that has a relation with money, the crime chance will increase too.

@OP although you can gamble using online casino and you think no one can know your location and house since you're not sharing your information except to the casino, you need to think there's a chance if the casino's security leaked and criminal know your location. You could be targeted by $5 wrench attack if you're a huge bettors. So make sure you're protect your privacy and know the risk first.

I think the reputable casinos have in place a really good cybersecurity team as they need first to safe guard their own money and then thinking about customers security.Customer security though is completely the responsibility of the customer taking for granted that the security of the online casino is assured by their cybersecurity team.

I use Linux to access the casinos I like to play so I feel really confident because my home PC is isolated from other devices and I have disabled ping and also ssh so I feel secure when playing at Stake or Sportsbet the only casinos I usually play most of the time.

Even in police stations. All places could be prone to crimes, but few places have only low crime rates. But the best approach to this is to improve your security, whether through personnel or by building a structure to strengthen the security. This is the only way to be safe. Invest more in security, hire security experts to assess it just like a bank, and also background check your personnel. This involves money, so I am pretty sure all the bad people are planning on how to exploit it. If they see something that they can penetrate, then you will be losing all of your money.

I heard this news before while taking my meal. The stabbing was not gambling related right? And it was outside the casino? It could've happened in the park or at the train station or anywhere, even in your neighborhood.

So let us talk about casino security. That man won't be able to bring his knives inside the casino. No arms are allowed inside a casino. And suspicious-looking individuals in spite of being able to enter a casino unarmed will be focused on surveillance cameras and casino securities including their specialized non-uniformed securities.

Personally, I prefer betting online because it saves time and effort but if I feel like playing in an offline casino then I will pay a visit with no issues at all. It's just that online casinos are easier to access nowadays hence most of us played online.

Two things a betting place should have these two things CCTV and roaming security if you don't see this in the establishment don't roam or even play gambling sites where there is money involved should be a secure place, and the authorities will close down that establishments without these two, here in our country it's mandated by the law that all establishment with money involved to have a tight security

I talk to the personnel of the betting place and ask for the security measures if it does not satisfy me I go to other betting places where there is good security, in times like this security should be our main concern, it is the responsibility of the establishment if the crime committed in their establishment, and they lack security measures.

I have grown to know and see physical as a dangerous and criminal environment, this has been the mentality instilled in me but I later grew up having more interest in gambling and often going to this physical casinos.
Long story short, I'm always very care and extra conscious of myself whenever I'm within or even around a physical casino.
Just as O.P said earlier that there are people who just sit as spys in a casino unnoticed and there primary assignment is to monitor the spending habit of player and from there, tend to extimate the average worth of the person before unleashing an attack on them.
The safety in a casinos be it online or offline, and gambling generally isn't gauranteed and no one will be held responsible if anything wrong happens

There is one solution for this and that is what we most  have now as crypto gambler and that is to play Online instead of going to Live casino where there are even higher case of threat in winners life.

I have a friend that had been held and take all His money and almost being killed because of His winning from casino house this is why we mostly prevent going without companion now.

Your concerns for security while visiting land-based casinos are legit imo. Apart from being not much of a fan of the public inside such places, I prefer not to visit land-based casinos for the security reasons.

If you play on a reputable online gambling platform, like most of those presented on this very site(check on their reputation here, of course!), and you win something big, the money is yours, you can be happy, and you can withdraw and celebrate. While in a land-based casino your big win may be only the beginning of some big problems.

First of all, I would like to express my deep concern that this incident will not happen again in the future with tighter security. related to, fill in the topic of your thread. The first thing we have to know is, that we will never know when an incident of crime will occur like in the case of the link you included. criminal acts will always be there wherever it is, and we will never know it at the same time the place is a safe place. In the attack case described in the link, it is not explained in the article that the motive was money. because this guy attacks some random people. we didn't know exactly until the authorities said the motive was a robbery in the Las Vegas area.

regarding your question, while visiting the live casino center. I'm not too worried about it, I'm sure I'll be fine. because after all evil will always be everywhere, according to what has been said before. It was only a coincidence, that this incident took place in a land based casino area. in fact, the most vulnerable risk is our internet security. because there are many phishing websites. I think, internet security is the main thing. because I tend to move in activities related to the internet.

I've experienced the same thing in the local casino in our area. Yes, there are securities but it's still hard to trust the different types of people that enter the gambling house. I think that's an edge of playing on online casinos nowadays. We're far from the hassle and we can play securely in the comfort of our homes.
Scammers and thieves are everywhere but they're more avoidable when we play in online casinos. If you're doubting and in fear, try to switch to an online casino.

Doesn't every live casino house have a super tight security guarantee for its visitors, especially on special days like Christmas and other special days, if people visit the live casino house.

As far as I can remember every casino house has a level of security and guards when people enter the casino house, those who want to gamble are not allowed to carry sharp weapons and items that are dangerous to other visitors, The friendly casino is responsible for convenience & security for visitors while in the game, that's the main point that must be implemented by the live casino to prevent unwanted things.

Even though there were several cases of commotion at the casino house and was worried about visitors, in my opinion it was negligence on the part of the casino, they didn't check in detail about the visitors who entered and there was chaos in the casino house, I think there is no reason to prevent those who want to use the casino, other than that some real rules must be applied, as I mentioned above, with some strict rules for visitors that will create comfort for visitors who want to bet at the casino house.

Being a victim of a phishing site is obviously because of the user's fault. I can't really accept the reason that they are newbies on why they fall into that trap since in the first place, why they didn't try to become vigilant while browsing the web. In fact, when it comes to depositing our money to a certain platform, it's already usual for us to do some deep research on that site. By using common sense, we should at least determine if the site we are visiting is trash or not.

In that particular situation, I can't take that as a reason why it's agreeably more fun visiting a live casino.


Even in a physical casino with well-tight security, it's still prone to some persons that might do some illegal activities inside, and possibly, might hurt the other customers physically. That is something that can't be avoided especially if that said person is determined to do that illegal act.

Just trust these casinos we visit, or we will visit in the future, that they are strictly enforcing the law prohibiting the carry of illegal firearms inside the casino premises, etc. But actually, the security inside is something I really don't mind. The thing that prevents me from visiting physical casinos even though I like to is the lack of cold cash in hand since I'm more used to online gambling now. I also don't like to go there alone as I found it boring.

If you are afraid of being robbed in a land-based casino, then:

- Don't bring a lot of money with you (it's better to have a separate card with a small balance)
- Do not come in an expensive car
- Do not dress provocatively (no need to stand out from the crowd)
- If possible, visit land-based casinos in the company of friends
- Carry a gun.
- If you are still afraid that you will be robbed, then play only online casinos.

That's the problem that winners might face if they play at an offline casino. Crime cases are now increasing because many people may be forced to become criminals because they lose their jobs. And if they find people who have a lot of money, they will try to take it.

We are really lucky to know online gambling because we don't need to go anywhere and can play gambling from home. And even though there are offline casinos around where we live, that doesn't mean we need to go to those offline casinos as often as we want because we're better off playing gambling from home.

-You know that less money wont really be that enough.
-Not all does have that expensive car but does really love to boast up their current ones.
-Getting dressed or do really likes to get attention is what most people do try out to achieve
-You cant be friends with anyone
-Not all does have the license on doing so
-If you do have that feeling then this is the wisest thing to do.

I dont see anything risks when you do play but rather see the risks when you do hit big win while you are playing.
This is on the time where eyes would be spotted on you.

Always check how legit the casino is, read the forums and see user reviews. Being hacked or phished could happen in ANY kind site, gambling isn't an exception. I would be more conserned about trading sites and sites that use smart contracts. Not everyone can check their legitimity and people sign with their wallets on all kinds of sites.

Well there are plenty of likely victims in physical casinos.
What i've seen there are ton of old people using slots and old people tend to carry lot of cash for some reason.
At least every time i've seem them in the shop they pay with cash and seem to have a lot of it in their wallets.
One good way to get robbed is being flashy and show how much cash you have. That's just stupid if you don't have security following you, and even with security it's pointless and distasteful.

- Not enough for what? The probability of winning has nothing to do with the amount of money.

-Those who like to brag often are not afraid of anything and are self-confident.

- In most European countries people try to dress alike, but this behavior is not everywhere

- A person has many acquaintances and only a few real friends.
 
- If you do not have the right to arms, think about it, because ill-wishers can come to you at any time. And if you are afraid of being mugged, then you certainly do not have the physical fitness to fight back to your detractors.

- The feeling of fear can be for a variety of reasons. Schizophrenics most often are not threatened by anything, but they constantly feel in danger

If you break a big score, you can contact casino security and they will call you a cab. You can also use the services of private security companies or a bodyguard.

That’s the best thing to do calling a friend to pick you up as you might be in danger when someone has plan to steal your money and he brings along with his group while you are alone. You know, this is what I have fears playing in physical casinos as after you’re out in their place, your security is never guaranteed anymore. That is why gamblers have reserved weapons in their cars so that they can defend theirselves whenever there is a need to.

Since and if you are so worried about losing money this yuletide season, you can make the decision to spend more time with family and avoid going casinos for the now not to become a victim of any funny situation. If you must gamble you can do so at the comfort of your home using the online gambling places that are available. It will not also be wise to know you have security concerns about visiting live casinos during this time and still go on visiting. I know we are never completely safe anywhere we find ourselves, but still try to cautious when concerns are high like this.

I really prefer to gamble with online casino site than visiting a physical casino house, but we all know that it's always fun to gamble in a physical casino house, you meet new people and everyone will have fun. I don't really visit physical casino house frequently, but whenever I visit I always make sure I gamble with just little amount because I know am being watched by people.

After winning in a physical casino house, you can be tracked and you can be attacked, sometimes you don't have to win, if people noticed you gamble with huge amount, you can tracked to your house and they will look for a day to attack you at home, because they believe for you to be gambling with huge amount them you are having money.

But if you gamble online, nobody knows you, nobody knows the amount you win or lose, if you don't tell anyone nobody will know about it, everything is kept secret and personal that's why most people prefer online gambling sites.

Well, I always believe that engaging in gambling whether it’s online or in physical casinos, have always their own risks. Because as long as money is involved, the chance to get hacked or being stolen is still of high rate.   So if one decides to gamble, then he should learn how to deal with its risks and how to always protect his funds from hackers or from those who plans to knock off your finances. One thing that gamblers should always be alert and mindful.

When we do speak about ambiance and overall experience then it would really be totally different comparing on what we do online.This is where people do really loves to test out nor really loves to hang out on playing
into those physical casinos because you could really make out interaction in between other gamblers.In speaking with security then it is really that standard that there would be those security personnel which would be roaming around and making out some checks.Most people who are hanging out into these places does have the money, they wont really get shocked if they do see
someone who had tons of chips into their tables.  8)

There is a live casino near my place, and anyone can freely visit it as long as they are not minors.  There are security on the entrance and they are frisking people or use metal detector before they can enter the establishment.  When it comes to security of land based casino, I think it is up to the security guard to secure the vicinity.

Although casino is near in my area, I seldom visit the establishment because I am more comfortable playing in an online casino.  I don't need to spend extra for transportation and I can wear whatever I want when I am at home.  And if ever I win a good amount of money, there is no prying eyes to know that.


The good thing with playing in an online casino is that you are safe from random personal attacks because we are inside of the comfort of our homes, and that what matters most, IMO.

Reality is when people know you are a gambler, they will start to assume that you have tons of money to lose or to add on it, so gamblers should always know the risk so they can always protect their selves from different    crimes that could happen around. That is why gamblers should always leave their excess money at their own trusted wallet and just bring significant amount intended to gamble, that is to avoid yourself from being the victim of stealing or whatever crime wherein money is the root cause.

Online casinos are good and safe, since you gamble convinently, those people that are hidding their gambling activities it keeps their secret from people. Offline casino is security tight to ensure safety of customers,I don't also think when you are inside the casino any negative thing can happen to you, because so many people goes there with huge some of money. The rich people are the ones patronizing the offline casino more since it is like a place to show off your wealth while you gamble. It is outside the casino or along the street of the casino that shit can happen,that is why it is advisable you go with a private car if it's a little bit far or more.

They have pros and cons and when it comes to online gaming
then it would really be having that convenience in your own home + the anonymity which you could really be able to play without exposing your identity.

For physical casinos then you could really be able to interact with other people which you could really gamble out and make out
some nice gambling talks and whatsoever kind of dealing and plus the ambiance.

Security is on default or standard because this business does involved huge amount of money which it is really just
right that they would be focusing on it.

Oh of course I’ve had these concerns and so should everyone else for that matter. That goes for whether you’re playing in downtown Vegas or is some local small town /city that just has some basic slot playing mini casinos.  Where I live slot machine gambling as absolutely blown up. There’s a slot machine 🎰 in a store of some type at least every mile. There’s also next to no legitimate security. These things tend to stay open late too, so personally is only every play in the afternoon.

It must be more frequent to hear more of nabbing and robbing these days because of the economy and season combined. Any jobless person can think of snatching cash from someone who shows how much they have in public, especially a person wearing an expensive watch coming out of vegas, he is a target.

Safer to just stay online casino, you wouldn't be worried about senseless killings like mass shootings or robbers.

Yes, and as we approach this holiday, we should also be very careful not just in casinos, but everywhere because there are a lot of criminals roaming around looking for potential victim.

But as in this case, the perpetuator might have some issues mental issues that why he was able to commit their crimes inside or within the vicinity of casinos. And I think this should be treated as different to let's say getting snatch your money inside because the security inside the casinos is very high as per my experience.

You're wrong on this, especially if it's outside, you don't know what danger you may face even if you'll say that you feel safe inside the casinos. You're unsure of what might happen later on. There are too many scenarios that can happen based on the situations of the gamblers that are in there.

And many go there having with not so much.

Yeah, there's like the status symbol and publicity there but everyone is just minding their own business there.

It can be physical or online casino and it can be spins or dices or betting or any type of gambling, you must have a pre-determined budget and a well prepared mindset to lose all your allocated funds. It means once you reach your budget for the day, you should be able to quit gambling and leave the premises (or shutting down the device for the case of online gambling). I strongly believe this could be the only security measurement a gambler go practicing.

We cannot do anything when a casino tricks us with their rigged games. But, we can stop ourselves to prevent losing more. Having a mature mindset to accept losses and profits in a same way is the key thing, I am trying to emphasize here.

Anyone is at high risk of losing money due to being mugged in a country with a high crime rate. You might be safe to put something of value in a public place in Singapore as there is not much crime committed by people there. But I really believe, in countries with very low affluence, people are more likely to commit crimes and even risk physical harm.

Regarding your topic, obviously I think it takes place in an area with a fairly high crime rate because people don't have enough money to live on. There you can't say how much money you have in public or even your own friends, so you should always keep your guard up. There are many risks to gambling in physical casinos, so many people are starting to consider online casinos now.

this is a somewhat difficult problem to solve because even if you put security and police in casinos and around casinos, thieves and murderers will always find a way to kill and steal, for example thieves and murderers can stay away from the casino waiting for the victim to leave the casino and they follow the victim home and then they can rob him at home or even close to home, to fight crime this way it is necessary for the police to put cameras in every corner of the city and then have enough numbers police to be in every corner of the city, this is the only way to fight crime in the city

Unless you hire bodyguards or security guards, but that is a personal problem, not a casino one, and this is really difficult to prevent, I don't see any place that has no crime rate. that you can freely go anywhere? As long as money is concerned, criminals really find a way. Also, having cameras in every corner can't prevent criminals, but it can easily solve the cases if we do have cameras. One of the best options is to have a lot of police patrolling every corner at night and day to really prevent these criminals.

It will depend on your goals for playing gambling because some people will not mind going to an offline casino and have been playing in offline casinos for a long time. They can also find fun there because they can talk to other people while playing their favorite gambling. They are also not afraid or worried about the risks or crimes that can happen to them at any time because they are used to their surroundings and they always go to the casino when there are still many people in the environment.

But some are more concerned with the security of playing at casinos, so they choose to play at online casinos. This allows them to hide their identities and play comfortably in their homes or rooms. So based on that, we can choose which is the most comfortable for us because playing gambling also depends on the comfort we can get.

I dont think its the casino which is the problem but maybe the area its in is relevant.   Just going into a city center on nights when  its got a bit wild could be inadvisable, you have to judge these things as they go.    Especially true around sports events I think, too many people to control which makes it a bit iffy to be distracted on that night and I would skip.   Most times well over 90% you aren't ever having any trouble, the casino obviously wants customers to have the easiest time arriving.

I have no opportunity to visit legal land-based casinos in my country, because they are too far away from me, but I used to go to casinos without thinking that someone could rob me.

It seems to me that most of the people who care about their safety in land-based casinos are just paranoid, looking for anyone in any public place who can do them harm.

My advice - think less about it, as no one knows how to fully protect yourself from ill-wishers.

Most of the time casino is the reason why this people such criminal is gathering on this place because casino is a hotspot for potential victim. Any area can be converted to chaotic environment if there’s a casino near it because they are always attracted to money. We can’t blame the area because criminals can move wherever there target. Vegas is already a capital place for gambling which means they have enough security to watch there city yet there still cases like what OP described.

The OP is right about security concern since it’s part of playing in IRL. Police can’t determine or catch criminal unless they already done the act so this risk is always present when playing remotely.

Security cameras and security personnel are present inside casinos, however, as far as casinos are concerned they are not responsible for your security outside their premises. Even cameras cannot do anything for your security. It's never safe to have a lot of money even if it's not a casino, money attracts criminals. There are different ways to secure yourself. Never go to casinos alone, you can ask your friend or someone you trust to accompany you if you need to go to casinos. Another thing, you can ask casino tellers to deposit your winnings into your bank account.  That's why it's always best to stay low profile if you have a huge amount of money, which is impossible if you are playing in real casinos. That's why most people prefer playing online casinos.

Indeed, security in live casinos is a thing of utmost concern, personally, I can't remember when last I visited a live casino but I must agree to the fact that live casinos are more fun to play in than online casinos..
But then they both have their pros and cons, and the issue of security is one of the cons of live casinos, alot of crimes happen in live casinos, aside killing and armed robbery, there are other minor crimes like picking pockets through which many gamblers have lost good amount of money, phones and other valuable items..
A friend of mine went to a live casino some months back and returned to complain that his phone was stolen right from his pocket without him knowing how - reasons like this is why going to live casinos does not interest me anymore

It’s fact, casino was get his maximum reach during the COVID 19. Because all of us was in home with huge time. We are in lock down, all the people had use the time to entertain with games.Only people with good knowledge had done the research on gambling. They made a earning from the gambling using their holding money. Holding money will be essential one for the next bet after the loss from the pocket. Some time people don’t have a opinion of holding for the longer period. They will change the mind of gambling by the shortage of funds by their family issues and they need to improve their position by gambling.

I used to play in a physical casino before the pandemic and I could say that it's more entertaining and so far, the local casino house in our area is secured and I had no security issues with them. When the pandemic happened, I switched to online casinos which are also entertaining and convenient on my end because I was able to play without going out. There are just casino house that isn't well-secured and if you're playing with those casinos, better stay away from them and try online casino for you to have security assurance.

With online casinos, you do not need to go out to any casino to gamble. This way not only you are secured from any unfortunate incident which might take place at the physical casino but also at the same time your identity remains anonymous and no one knows that you are gambling.

Due to covid, gamblers switched to online gambling and most of them never returned to a physical casino, because the online casino has too many advantages over the physical casino, one of them is the security of the gambler.

And yes, with this kind of incident, it makes us lean towards playing online, another advantage is that we can avoid this kind of accident, I mean you just wanted to play and suddenly you will hear some commotion and worst you could be the next victim.

As far as security for casinos, maybe this is just another wake up call for them to tighten their security further and not allow this crime inside or even within their vicinity. They have to increase their security personnel around.

To avoid being hacked when playing on an online casino, we must enable our 2fa's. If possible use more than one 2fa's. On some gambling sites they let you add your mobile number other than your email address.

To avoid getting phished, we must bookmark the original gambling sites that we are using and always click on that link wherever you visit them and not by typing the name of that site in a search engine.

Now for the offline casinos, make sure to play only in casinos that has security guards on them and cctv's because there's also casino which don't have this. We can also bring a company with us E.g our friends and love ones.

Final thoughts: Just enjoy every session and don't over think about the worse that can happen.

Hehe...
The whole story is just very funny. How could he show up with a black knife, claiming to be a chef and the performers believed him? Is it that the whites don't take things serious out there? C'mon... to every motive, there's always a reaction prior the happenings... Maybe the dude had her in mind? IDK but that should be something (atleast anyone) noticed on time to evade such brutal injuries.
Do you really think that a security man would do much with that? He's human too and has some bond of fears (as everyone else does), so I think it was just meant to happen.
Nevertheless, I'd commend any casino to deploy security forces just so this won't repeat itself.

Sandra 🧑

True!  When we are outside the street we are exposed to different kinds of danger even being inside the casino vicinity will never guarantee you of safety.  There had been cases where armed man attack a casino and shooting people inside it.  So we really never know what will happen even with the tight security, mishaps happen.



There are also lots of rich people playing at online casino.  You can check the via tournament and daily ranking and see how huge they wagered.

But don’t be so confident with online gambling because you can still be tracked if the online site becomes hacked and that all your personal information have been disclosed. That will certainly put you in danger too. But the crime rate is lower than physical casinos as you can be really attacked there once other people noticed that you’re a high roller in casinos. So as much as we should be careful in online casinos, the more we should be extra mindful in physical casinos.

Gambling is full of risks, that is why if we can gamble at a less risk, we opted to chose that like online gambling instead of gambling into live casinos as the risk and danger to be personally attacked is there. But we all know that reputable casinos are more secured and safe because that's one of the reasons why they are being mostly trusted by many. But we should not solely rely on it, even reputable casinos have their own anomalies, as no perfect casinos that you can be fully trusted on your own safety aside from your finances.

With online casinos, 2FA adds more security. When the platform is trusted, automatically we can see big attempt to trap the users with phishing sites. Being cautious to enter through the URL and bookmarking the right URL could prevent this. In the past these kind of approach were done with the exchanges. Now the focus have turned towards gambling sites as there is increase in the launch of new sites.

Nowadays offline casinos have got the best security system that watch the activities of each and every user coming and leaving the casino. For this reason, as suggested it is good to enjoy gambling than over thinking about it.

^Definitely right, that is why many people now prefer to gamble online casinos than traditional casinos or offline casinos.
You can gamble in a public with the purpose of having fun and don't bring all your money or a huge amount of money because possible it is risky when you go outside because you are not covered by the casino's security. Even though that is a reputable casino, I remember here posted on the casino massacre which is there are too many civilians has been died because of the massacre when a gambler lose all of his money in the gambling casino.

Lets put some example into this one.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-resort-idUSKBN18S63W

Gunman torches Philippine casino, killing dozens in panic

Losers could really be possibly able to done of these things which it is really that we should really be that careful.We know that there are people
who cant really just that having a good self control or into their emotions which it would be resulted into this.

2FA is one of the additional layer of security to the players that's why some of the gambling casino would like to have a KYC even though the 2FA can't secure the players account they can easily verify that the user is legit player and not hacked or bot,

still physical casino have more risk too because they can make a transaction outside or under the table. In some point recently the physical casino are now slowly adopting to this pandemic and slowly recovering their business.

Here in our place, we're not concerned about our security, the management of the live casinos knows who is going to go and play in their casino they know that many of them are VIPs, and even the ordinary player they assured of the highest security, it is the business of all establishment especially a casino to have the highest security so their clients can concentrate on playing and having fun, casino operators should spend a lot on security like CCTV, roaming security personnel dressed in a civilian.
Live casinos will lose clients and money if they have weak security, which is why they spend so much on it.

This is why everyone should be discreet of their finances no matter what, be it connected to a casino or connected to whatever activity that requires money in order to complete it. I enjoy online casinos and enjoy physical ones too, just not the type that has a lot of people in it and a lot of smoke in the air. Never have I flaunt money or acted like I have the money in a physical casino, and in an online one I make sure to just deposit $20 and that's it.

Sometimes it's in the person on why they are targeted by people with bad intentions. Keeping a low profile really helps, especially if you are a gambler that rolls a huge sum every now and then.

Everything has risk, but between the two, land based casino and online casino, I'd rather risk my online identity than risk my physical body to some unexpected physical attack.  At least in an online identity risk, your body does not get harmed unlike when someone attacked you out of nowhere that may cause your life to be in danger.  There is nothing more important than life itself.  So I think that it is better to face the risk online then to face a life threatening risk in physical casinos.

But of course, it is always best to have a counter measure regarding these kinds of risk.  So we better educate ourselves on how to prevent these kinds of risk.

online or offline casinos, better secure your identity or your financial status by not divulging your activities thru social media channels. some are getting screwed because these scammers can see the profile of their victims via online. so they can plan ahead what needs to be done. when it comes to offline, of course, you should not flaunt your money because you don't know what other people are thinking about you.

Social media has created a false sense of security among people, they think that since almost everyone is posting their information online then it is safe for them to do this as well and they could not be more wrong, all kind of criminals are looking at social media and selecting the easiest victims they can find, so even if we have the desire to flaunt our wins we must not do so, otherwise we should not be surprised if at some point we become the victims of a crime and our money gets stolen.

    In short, either the live casino or online casino has the same pros and cons, which I also believe is true. So as a gambler we should be careful. Learn what to know so that we don't face things we don't expect when we gamble in a casino.

Because the risk is there no matter where we go, all that is needed is to be observant to avoid what should be avoided, and also be careful with the money that we can win gambling if we are in a live casino.

Just think of any possibility of danger that may happen and that's it. There's a chance that it may happen inside the casino and that's why security there is very tight. But even with that, don't feel safe and assured while you're there playing with your money.

Yes, it is what I've said. It's like a symbol of status whenever people go there. They're showy to their friends and relatives that they're inside the casino and they can afford to lose any amount they wish. Well, that's my opinion because most of my friends on my social network account are like that. They're bragging about the facilities and they're allowed to do that but in reality, they can't even pay their debt but just want to brag and that's why I've said it's a status symbol for some of them.

Anywhere people see you handling money there is a certain risk, although I have never heard stories of robberies where I live. The normal thing is to take certain precautions if you earn a good amount of money, such as taking a cab home.


And not only in casinos, acting on a day to day basis showing that you have a lot of money can be dangerous because it puts you in the spot of many criminals.

In anything you are doing their is always risk, but we should always consider the once with lower risk. To be honest it will be kind of difficult to track me if am using a online gambling site, now that am from Nigeria, let's assume that am using a online gambling site and the site was hacked by someone from another country, you know it will be kind of difficult for the person to track me, and if a gambling site is being compromised, what the hacker will be after is how to move the funds in gambling site, or how to divert the money customers are depositing into his own account, and not looking for people's identity and tracking them.

If you see using a local gambling house, you can be easily tracked because you might be using the gambling house in your neighborhood, so after leaving a gambling house you can be easily followed, or maybe the criminal might even know your house, immediately they notice that you win huge amounts of money, or you are gambling with huge amount of money frequently, then you can be easily followed.

Their was one certain time in my country, their are always criminals in bank, when they notice you make withdrawal of huge amounts of money they are going to track you to your house and attack you at home in the night and some will even attack you on your way going back home. Let's assume you send money to some or received money from someone through bitcoin, you can't be tracked because nobody knows you.

Inside the casino? Yeah, pretty much secure. There are lots of security and identity check before you can enter a casino (the big ones). Lot of security personnel guarding the perimeter. So I doubt anything serious can happen in the casino. But once you leave the casino, your security is no longer the responsibility of the casino. You are on your own. And yeah, people inside the casino can stalk and follow you. So you are right, you might be assaulted and robbed if you win big. The best thing thing to do is be cautious and if you can move in groups.

What country or place are you living in? I was shocked that you haven't heard of robberies comparable to those in our country, that every day I heard this. Whether you are in a cab or not, if the criminal wants to rob you, they really will. I read a lot of news that they got robbed in the taxi. The driver sabotaged it since he just got out from a bank; how much more if you came out victorious in the casino and anyone knows that you won big? The only thing we can do today is to keep secret that we do have money and be cautious all the time

Of course, it depends on the location where you live, if you live in an urban place where there are criminals roaming then you have to tighten up your security and don't flaunt your money and jewelry, if you're living in a wealthy country and there are strict laws on criminals like the on some Islamic country where you can see jewelers selling their jewels in the side of the street and people flaunting their money, you are secured depending on how your country implement security and if they have a very good and stable economy.

Only by being careful in choosing a casino will we be safe from fraud or something related to the securities for our account. I see that some people get scammed because of a trivial matter and don't pay attention to the details and end up losing their money. The risk of being scammed or even the target of crime will still exist, which makes us always have to be careful. And even though we play gambling from home, this doesn't mean we will be safe because even if we play gambling at online casinos, we can still be exposed to fraud, which has happened to many people.

Indeed, you need to work more with your own security cause even there are extra layers of securities from the casino but hackers
or scammers tries to penetrate your account the chance still possible.

You need to protect yourself by imposing extra layers of securities on your part, it will help to limit or avoid any potential risk
with your account and your funds.

With knowledge in taking care of your account, the chance is slim for any possible threat to your account.

I'm not really understand how you can be scammed using online though, perhaps when you login to fake or similar sites? But as gamblers, we all know that we have to check everything first or even bookmark the sites so that we will avoid this kind of scamming by those criminals.

For land base casinos, casino is high but nevertheless when you go outside that's where we should be very careful specially if you have lots of cash on hand. Maybe there is a spotter inside the casino that will watch you and then when you go out, their accomplice will be waiting for you outside.

My only concern is I am tempted to take a loan when I am losing because there are too many loan sharks in our live casinos ready to lend you any amount in exchange for important belongings in your possession, but when it comes to criminal elements, the casino operators are on top of the situation they have great security no one is allowed to roam the vicinity if you don't have credentials or you are not a regular customer.

They want you to feel you are safe in their vicinity so they can get you to extend or prolong your stay, the longer you stay the more money you're bringing to the casino, in fact, if you're a high roller you can have your own security provided by the management as a token of appreciation for the money that you bring in.

One does not need to bother himself being a gambler for security whenever you're dealing with a secured casino already except for the ones you know by yourself that it's just nothing but taking a high risk, visiting the casino house has it own demands and law which you're expected to have been familiar with before assuming them, if you don't brake the rules or conducts then you're safe to an extent, but onna real sense is the casino house really safe compared to the online casinos? I don't think so.

And that's one of the benefits of using online casinos over the physical one, as it gives us the privilege to gamble from our device anywhere around the world. Because not only in yuletide seasons do one needs to be very careful when he/she happens to win huge at a physical casino. It should be a daily routine for every gambler, because in as much as money is involved, I have seen many scenerios where friends betrays the other just to collect the preceed of a gambled huge winning. So security this season should be our priority as we gamble responsibly.

We can always go for online or live casinos of our choice but we should always be cautious and even mindful from being scammed or being put into danger especially outside live casinos. Even if we say that live casinos have several guards to keep safe the site, but i think there is more danger outside in physical casinos that you can't even protect yourself once you will be cornered.

On the time that you are out of casinos vicinity or property then you shouldnt really consider yourself to be safe because its out of their premises or border for you to be protect with their security personel.

If you are really that too mindful when it comes into your security then its better to make out actions which would really be basing on that on where trying to avoid those possible scenarios that could happen.

When you do win up big or hit up some good amount then it would really understandable that you would be looking yourself to be safe when you do get home.This is the only thing i do
see a problem when you do go into these physical places which it is really a safety hazard when everyone knows that you do have lots of money.

Well, I agree with you. I am one of the examples you mentioned from the first point. the only concern of us who like to play in land-based casinos is, being tempted to take out a high-interest loan and instead, my vehicle as collateral. I had an experience like this, when in town we still had a land casino. I think, most of the well-known land casinos always prioritize security for their visitors and customers.

Related to the Op story. in the link of the article, the man attacks his victims randomly. and the perpetrators of the crime, it has not been confirmed by local authorities, that the motive in the case is related to robbery. if we talk about criminal cases and crimes, they will never be separated from human life wherever we are. and even if, there are plenty of gamblers who fear the same thing will happen to them. today online casinos come with all kinds of features available that are no less far from land-based casinos.  So, the choice is simple. without having to visit a land casino, one can play gambling at online casinos.

That's right, even in the parking space. there are still casino security or even outside of the casino's itself. But then again, you know that risk when you go outside by yourself, you need to be self aware of your environment and think that there is someone that is following you then take steps or maybe not go home right away. Perhaps stay inside the casino hotel for good measures before you go home with big money. But then again, with this kind of incident, case that the OP link is separated the individual is looking to hurt other people regardless of the place or venue.

Incidents could really happen anytime and anywhere and its true and basing up on what OP mentioned that it did really happen inside the premises and its not the first time and this is why as an individual then you

should really be that attentive for whatever things that might happen around on your surroundings because on this type of place or kind is really that prone into these kind of incidents.

I could say that it is really that very normal since there are people who are really that too impulsive and really that too emotional when it comes to their bets
specially on their losing side.

And as long as we follow what the casinos recommend about guarding our accounts against hackers or scammers, we shouldn't have to worry about anything. We have to be very careful when using online casinos because hackers or scammers will use various methods that may seem simple but we don't realize it.

The casino itself will also always monitor the state of the site and protect the website from all attacks because the competition between casinos is very tight.

It can happen because if we are not always careful to check the website, we can fall into the traps of hackers or scammers. After all, that is an easy way to deceive people. Such cases have often occurred, and even people are scammed because they don't follow what has been recommended.

Playing in land-based casinos and being able to win huge prize money makes us have to be extra careful to bring the money home. But the casino may offer to hire a security guard to look after us on the way home. But if not, we can ask for help from others to accompany us.

time management mate, if you have plenty of time to  enjoy then why not go in live casino houses ? but if you are a busy person and only allocate short time to gamble then we should always consider online casino and yes this is the most popular way of gambling nowadays, this will even kill traditional casinos in the future.

  -  You're right there mate, it's just that others don't think about such things right away, theirs can gamble and win big which is wrong. That is the main thing that a gambler who enters a casino must do to secure their account here.

If all gamblers or players knew and knew this, for sure we would not see any gamblers complaining about a gambling establishment 100%, that's why there was nothing like that before and until now.

The casino in my home town is very posh, you need to wear a suit and tie to enter. All the people I see there are elegant and I don't expect them to be looking for targets. A few times I saw some very beautiful woman who were alone in the casino, maybe they were looking for some older men to support their gambling habits. So far I haven't felt unsafe at the casino, the parking is right next door and there is always security at the door. I even heard that if you win larger amounts someone will escort you to your car. To be honest my winnings at my local casinos were always mediocre, I never had large sums of money in my pocket when leaving. As a woman it might be different as well and it's always better to visit in a group, it's also more fun.
As for the online gambling boom we saw over the last two years, I would not leave large sums of money at the casino. Whenever I have a bigger win I withdraw money, this also helps me to save some of my gambling profits. I would treat a casino similar to a crypto exchange, don't leave all your money on an exchange. It will cost some money in transactions to always move money around, but at least we are save in case the casino or exchange gets hacked.

If you earn a big sum of money when you are gambling at a physical casino then you can ask a member of their security staff to accompany you to your car, however once you leave the parking lot of the casino you are on your own, and as we know there are many criminals that are always trying to see if there is anyone that has won a big amount at the casino to rob them, however this is getting less and less common as many casinos no longer give prize money in the form of cash and instead they send you a wire transfer, and in that way you no longer need to be as afraid as if you were carrying the cash around.

I agree with this. You could ask the casino's staffs to escort you out of their establishment and accompany you to your car. Or you can just hail a cab on your app to safely go home. However, always be careful because it's really true that the bad guys are just waiting for the perfect timing to get into you. They are always looking for your vulnerable time so always be on your guard. Always check the surroundings before leaving the casino. Check whether there's someone suspicious outside waiting for you. If you happen to spot one, the best possible thing you could do is to ask a friend to give you  a ride home.

Nowadays, cash as prize is seldom given to the players due to security reasons inside the casino and outside the casino. If you are going to a small time casino that only gives cash as reward, just always be careful the moment you get out  whether with big winnings or none. Because the criminals cannot really distinguish easily which one has big amount of money, they are targeting players leaving the casino premises in general.

What I don't know is how exactly one could be careful with lots of cash on hand. If you are not a big shot with security guys around, you are just risking your life, that's all. That's why I think going to land-based casinos is not worth it. You either lose your money there, or, if you win big, you are risking to be robbed and hurt.

That's right bro, that's what money brings when you bring a lot to the casino as long as you don't make it obvious that you're carrying a lot of money so you don't think about it.

    Then when you win a large amount at a casino house edge, before you leave the land-based casino it is good to call a close friend first and have them pick you up at the casino where you are so that you are safe this way, rather than the one where you go out right away and call your friend who is close to you.

Casinos are honestly some of the safest places around in comparison to other venues - there is a fair bit of money floating about so they will have security teams that are able to deal with random players who are kicking off (when talking about a medium to large size casino at least). They will have CCTV and other security monitoring software that will be watching the floor with a manned operator, first on the look out for cheaters but secondly on the look out for any type of trouble makers. A casino is looking for people that are happy to hand over their money and people are more likely to relax when they feel totally safe, so it is definitely part of the environment that they want to engineer.

Goes to show how crime-riddled your neighborhood or their neighborhood is. If they had to call you in the dead of the night just to ask for a ride so they can home safely, it means that no one can be trusted or they don't trust anyone outside, their house, not even the ones who's supposed to keep them safe like the cab drivers or whatnot. You're right too with the fact that carrying a gun adds a little peace of mind for when stuff like this happens but if the guy has a gun too, there's still that risk. This is the very same reason I don't gamble that much in casinos anymore. The fear of dying just because I carry cash with me is too much for the risk. At least with online gambling, I still get to keep my life with me if I do get hacked and I lose my funds.

Not all the neighbors are same as like you said, they are selfish. Some are trends to help the people, when they are in the need. Sometimes you was captured by the police and they ask to pay some cash for the night out. They you try to contact your family members all are not wake-up. So we can get the support the neighbors to get escape from such incident. Like wise owner of casino will had full security for their website. Because they use to inverse thousands of dollars for it. Even they paying some money for the promotion of the projects. It’s hard to bring capital for the project.

I think this is a problem for casinos worldwide, criminals follow the money and they know that there is a lot of money moving at casinos and they want to get a cut, so you need to be careful, in fact such an aggressive approach is hardly needed as many people are drinking alcohol at the casino and they are not precisely at their most alert state, for example a very common way thieves can rob you inside the casino is by working with a partner, and while one of them distracts you with something their accomplice comes from the other side and steal your chips.

best to always have companion when going in land base casino and also to have always an exit plans , never trust everyone inside and outside casino because you'll never know when you will win or when you will be lucky .

but this is a rare case As far as I know because there are very few that i heard from news but of course we must always take one step further from our security because if luck goes with you then surely winning will be very risky.

The moment you show them bad intentions, everything will turn out bad as long as money is involved. Especially for known gamblers, they will always be the target of criminals since they always bring along money to gamble. That is why security should always be tight, not only inside casinos but also even outside casinos because its where most of the criminals are waiting for some victims.

I'm not too sure which place you mean. as far as my experience of playing at land casinos, whether in Malaysia, Singapore or Macau, I have never seen any crime I mean, someone is free to go in and out without worrying that someone's money will be robbed. as told by the Op on this thread. after all, the criminal case that happened in Op's story had nothing to do with the robbery case. the individual was targeting his victims at random, and authorities have made no statement that the case was pure robbery. as you said, currently the casino does not provide winnings in cash, but it can be through a transfer service and it is more efficient.  IMO, evil will always be everywhere and we never know when evil will befall us.

So, what we need to remember is to stay alert.

Better yet, just stay at home and play in an online gambling casino platform.  it will save you the trouble of troubling your friend to accompany you.  It also saves you the trouble of going through heavy traffics and it will save you time traveling back home.

If paranoia is developed when going out to the local casino due to this kind of incident then as I stated, just play in an online casino.  This way you will be safe and sound inside the protection of your home.

Dont be predictable would be the biggest thing, if you have a win dont walk out the door with pockets bulging cash.   A really big casino will see you to the car perhaps but it seems foolish to be obvious in your movements with any large cash transaction.  Ideally dont withdraw right away if at all possible, delay, come back the next day be regular rather then a one off type occurrence because most thieves arent the patient type.  Obviously digital is much preferable for these and other reasons, also just dont gamble alone seems a good idea imo.

There is currently a lot of leeway being provided by the casino to avoid such a scenario from happening. Actually, not all the time casinos will be able to give prizes in the form of a wire transfer or digital transfer of funds as there are still modern casinos that give cash rewards but as far as I know, that is just a default method, and you can just ask for other alternative or even cashing your prize at a later time or day. Also, since these kinds of incidents are to be expected for jackpot winners or high rollers, they can ask for some security personnel to assist not only to your car but rather directly at your home, they can even chauffeur you until you are safe but still you will need to pay for fee for these services.

There's lots of ways if you wanted to do so if you arent really that in a rush on pulling those cash in one go and would just simply leave the venue.If you do mind about your safety then it would really be just right

that you shouldn't go outside of the premises on having those tons of funds which it is really just a suicide thing since abduction and criminals are really just waiting for you outside.

I do agree into this suggestion that it would be better if winnings would be partitioned and would be gradually be taken on day to day basis and of course
only get those small amounts.

I might agree on this too but depends on how the user's approach to this.

There are gamblers that feel so rushed to enjoy their money that's why they will do a bulky withdrawal right away.

Maybe much better to become patient and just slowly withdraw the money for the site not to be notified about big activities that happening on our account.

Eye in the sky. I witnessed though one individual trying to run out of casinos, not sure why he was running or who he is running away from, but he was caught outside the vicinity of the casino because security as very tight as you have said. And they design the casino to have choking points, simply you will have to go there to go outside but then it the camera will take a full picture of you and that it is narrow and small width that you will slow down and with that the security can go after you.

I was never a fan of casinos and gambling den until the beginning of online casinos, I was so scared of going to a location to gamble, and not just about security alone but the insult that's been passed to gamblers in my city, they are treated like a losing gamblers and all the insults? Until they become the a winner.

The world is revolving and changes are happening in every facet of life which includes casino cash dealings. And it would be so lame of anyone that has just won about $200k or more, for example, from a casino not to have security plans beyond the casino's premises. The desperation of scammers and robbers is high in recent times, it would be good for everyone to opt for the electronic channel for crediting in such condition.

This is unless the person is also a big gun in which such cash in possession would not pose any security threat.

That way, you can still play gambling at online casinos because you don't need to go anywhere and can play gambling from home. The security factor is the main thing that should be our concern if we want to go to a local casino because many people are watching us when we enter the local casino. And many more will be watching us if we win that much money. If we win a lot of money, we have to hire a member of security to escort us back home, which is the risk of gambling in the local casino. But that won't happen if we play gambling at an online casino and we don't have to pay security fees to escort us because we play gambling from home. We only need to know where to play safe and comfortable gambling so we can withdraw the winning money.

You guys do know that there are ATMS in those big casinos right? Like if you ever end up winning a lot, you could put your money into the bank, hell even casinos do wire it to your account as well if you want. Obviously there are some people who may prefer cash and they do have that security issue, but they accept that risk, if you do not want to do that then you could just put it on your bank account and move on.

My spouse's cousin lives in a legal casino zone and he gambles time to time and he just puts the chips into this machine, and the machine sends it to his bank account, simple as that. I can't believe you think EVERYONE takes their winnings in cash :D. That's not the case at all. Only the ones who want cash gets it.

If you want to make sure that games are fair and smooth, you should walk into an official casino. That way you can be sure that you are playing fair and that there is no cheating. Please note that you cannot lose very well here. The house always has an edge when you start playing at a casino, and based on statistics you can always lose more than you initially think you will. But of course that was not the question. Local even built house casinos I would avoid at all times.

Its not really that bad to play on a gambling casino physically yet its for everyone and as long you could able to place bets but of course you should expect that this is a place where people do spend up tons of money

and usually a hang out place for those who do love lots of money.Speaking of safety then this isnt something excluding in todays targets considering that it would really be having that risk
Therefore, it would really just vary or depend on someones preference whether they would be sticking on physical or online casinos.

Security is something that you should really be that minding no matter where you are or what you are into.

online casinos have changed so much - even the places where gambling is banned people are using online casinos to gamble and gain money
I have learnt so much from the online casinos won some money too - but I have lost a big amount too in the hands of hacker - people can do anything for money

When you do win big time or huge funds neither on online or offline casino then it would really be that impossible that you would really be thinking about gradual withdraw, for sure you would really be that too keen

on withdrawing it all in one go and this is the thing we do have in mind.We know the different security applications in both situations which everything is really that having a risk but usually this do impose higher

risk when you do deal on physical casinos which you might really get that abducted, for online ones then they might hold your withdrawal and might needing for some verification or
something that they would be throwing up some issues into you just to make out some false alibis just for you not to get paid.

But sometimes we love hanging around with someone and have good ambiance things that we cannot find in Online gambling.
and also there are several occasion that we need to bond with friends , so yes having company in Live houses will save us from having this troubles.

You are right that there can be problems of security in offline casinos. But that is an issue with small casinos or those which are new and unprofessional. Large casinos spend money on security as well as they need to maintain their reputation to attract players.

The security issue in offline casinos might be one of the reasons why people are shifting to online casinos. But here also as you mentioned, there can be issues like phishing and all. But that issue can be possible with any site you visit on internet. And there are multiple ways to fight against these type of attacks. Like, you should only play on those casinos which are security certified by renowned agencies. Having a good antivirus installed on your PC will also solve this issue in most of the cases.

Yes, in fact it is a great recommendation to go with a private car to avoid being chased by some kind of thief or someone who wants to steal, what you say is very true, but I think that many thieves and they have studied the players they frequent, I think that they do a great job of counterintelligence of those who go there to have fun, others who seek to make a quick profit and others who just want to see and see what happens, just as there are always some players who lose everything, and those who get drunk who can throw away a full fortnight, which turns out to be a big disaster, all that kind of thing is what you can imagine.

Precisely if we play in an online casino it will be more comfortable and safe.
The online casino itself even guarantees the safety of every player on the casino site.
The casino will also not provide personal data from each player that is known by other players, so it is clear that online casino sites are more guaranteed for security.

Talking about friends, we actually don't know what a friend is thinking and will do, there are not a few friends out there who have evil thoughts towards us.
For today we have to be more careful with anyone, even if it's our closest friend

Aside the general security being provided at casinos, I feel that personal security and security consciousness should be at the top of list of everyone.

I go about with my pepper spray. I ensure that whenever I leave the casino, I can see faces of everyone standing next to me. I am always scanning their faces. Usually, I do not go unaccompanied. It is difficult to get attacked as a group. Basically just be your own security and trust no one as soon as you step in the casino or wherever betting is done.

This type of decision has two side effects; physical casinos are not like online casinos where players can have a player interface and do things quickly; if partitions are allowed in physical casinos, they will delay you the next time you come for the remainder of your balances or may even bring unnecessary excuses, whereas online casinos allow you to log in and initiate the sequence for the withdrawal of your balance and wait for some time to be credited.

Since we're all making suggestions to protect players, if I know myself to be a gambler and know well that my gambling skills precede my name, I'll probably hire a security person myself and when I need, I'll put a call through to come pick me up, which is more reasonable than allowing the casinos to provide one because they can't be trusted with the money I won from their company.

Yeah, I didn't know that there are ATMs on some casinos but I think this can do more harm than good because there's a tendency that a gambler will just keep on withdrawing their money on that ATM. This could be the reason why ATMs on most casinos are rare to find.

Anyway, ATMs are different from a bank. You can't directly deposit your money in the ATM but you can only withdraw money there. If you want to deposit your money then you will need to go in the actual bank but if the casino can automatically do it for you then that was great. You will now feel safer when you go home, knowing that you are not carrying any hard cash with you.

We do know that there are ATM's who do process out deposits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOMGynK1XcA

It might not that rampant or very common but they are already existing which means if these Atm's do exist into these venues or places then
it would really be that too convenient for a gambler if ever they do win up some huge cash but well i do agree that it could really be having
that bad effects too if these machines are in nearby which the same as you had mentioned out.

Haha, forgive me but I don't understand, is this to say that criminals do not or can not chase private cars?
I do agree that private cars do offer some level of security as well as comfort, but sincerely, it does not totally deter criminals from attacking if they want to, here in my country, I've heard news severally of how big men were attacked in the high way by robbers, they force the big men out of their cars and doing whatever they want.

Though I still understand that by private car, you could mean a Lamborghini or Ferrari, one of those fast cars that cant be easily affordable to common thieves, this is the only guarantee that you wont be caught if for instance, you find yourself being chased, but you have to be a good driver too else you might just end up crashing into something  ;D .

Online casinos remain the best when it comes to the issue of personal security.

In my region depending on the location, most gamblers are seen as irresponsible and unserious because of people used to see about gamblers lifestyles. Since there are many ways to gamble and gambling online looks more secretive and better than going to a game house or casinos to make bets which can be displeasing then we should go with whatever option that suit us and our lifestyles.
We have crypto casinos which is above using fiat or credit cards to gamble online which can disclose our identities and make us more prone to other possible issues.

well those are not real friends mate but just company because a friend  will never think anything bad specially if this is just about Money because friendship cannot be bought by money.

though Evil forces are just there to push this to happen .

well it is that what truly is , gamblers mostly irresponsible and greedy .

at least this will give some venues to lessen the risk but yet? this will also reveal the personality of the said person to be a crypto user and again will be the subject or target of bad elements that only waiting for another victim.
actually ? we are all vulnerable no matter what we do so yes better to play Online at house but the chance of winning is really near to small chance than winning .

Large casinos spend money on security you say? Bad people won't attack you in the casino, they will track you and probably follow you home, they are gamblers just like you and trust me they know your face and how much you win.

Gambling offline is a bad practice in many countries, not all countries are like USA's Las Vegas where no one cares how much you win, it's a dreamer state and it's built differently.

sorry mate but what is Online casino Site different from Online Casino Halls?  did I get it right? seems like for me they are the same ?Online gambling pattern?
what would police arrested? innocent people from what?

suspect will be arrested and remain innocent unless proven guilty .

A close friend can be not much of a help if we are dealing with local gangsters. We can imagine many scenarios of unwanted events following our big win in a land-based casino. To avoid all of them, it's better to play online, but, of course, on a reputable and reliable gambling platform. Some gamblers think that it's more likely to lose all your money online, and I understand them. If you are not careful enough, if you start playing and depositing on just any site without researching, you are indeed likely to lose your money.

There is always an increase in criminal activities during festive period especially Christmas. In my location there are always high rate of robbery, kidnapping and fraud during these periods. I am sure that these criminals would attack anyone that wins big. For me the best option would be to stick to online gambling platforms and avoid these physical casinos where these criminals hangout seeking for whom to devour. Even before this period, they best platform should be online casinos except there are other reasons for choosing live casino centers. It would also be nice if these live casino companies have security operative that can scare away these criminals from their vicinity.  

It's useless, the casino's security only scare away the criminals on the casino only, but when the gamblers want to back to home, these criminals will attack the gamblers during their drive. Casino security isn't a body guard where they will protect you in anytime and everywhere, so you need to have a weapon under your seat to able to survive. Just play in online casino, the difference isn't that much and you don't need to risk your life.

I generally agree with you about everything you've said and the possible way we can avoid this is to be personally conscious of your environment at all times.
I grew up in a ghetto where environment wants to be a king of a kingdom that doesn't even exist and having such things in my neighborhood was generally at the owner's risk and then we later moved to a more advanced environment in my locality.
During the covid, I started gambling online but before then, I did alot of gambling in the physical casino because it was more fun over there and you get to meet alot of other people with similar Interest where you discuss and argue about things.
But generally, it's a call for concern about the security level of physical casinos.

If a casino could offer its services to escort the winners to their homes or wherever they go after receiving the winnings, it would enhance the casino's reputation as winning gamblers or even casual gamblers would judge that the casino really cares about their safety. But we should be able to keep ourselves safe after gambling at the casino, regardless of whether we are winners or losers. And we have other options to play in online casinos if we want to avoid bad incidents on the way back from the casino to home.

Isn't it more simple nto take it easy by avoiding a particular kind of casino if you think the security is not favourable to your  standard, some environment can be as bad for casino house and if you think you're not the type that is fit in such their category bthen it will make wise of you to descern and leave to a suitable environment where you can feels secured for your gambling in the casino house, if you see evil don't wait till it get to you before you decide running away from it before happening.

There are casinos with different class for different class people, for example VIP may not have any security threats because they have their own bodyguards and casino itself ensure the amount reaches their bank account with no issues if they won but usually the bet amount stats from few hundred thousands to millions.

Whereas for normal gambler who visit casinos or slots machines in their local may face security so they have to be very careful if they won big amount like even in thousand may become threat to their life but it all depends on where the location of casino or machine situated so its better to visit the casino with more security or more familiar to you.

It's a matter of choice because for some, gambling in a live casino is fun but for others gambling online might be more fun.
I haven't experienced a live casino yet but I guess it should be fun. But then again the ease of convenience online gambling provides is more efficient.
Coming to security, I think online gambling has more security because at the maximum one would lose his money online.
But in some cases one might also lose his life when visiting a live casino. So security is better in online casinos.

I'm sure stories like this often happen in several countries, especially those that don't legalize gambling. you gamble in a offline casino - you win big - of course, bad people follow you to rob you (maybe the owner of the gambling) because they don't want you to win big money from their casino. so it's safer and more comfortable to play in an online casino so you can hide your identity.


Vegas and Macau are the dream cities of gamblers, there those who love gambling don't have to worry about their winnings because of course they will be safe even if they win big and bring their winning money home happily (because the majority don't care about what you do and get).

Honestly both online and IRL casinos represent their own advantages and disadvantages and I think the online experience will give you better security to you personally and your funds... In a live casino setup there are just so many distractors such as the nice house girls, no Wall clocks and serving of alcohol which could get you to over spend than you anticipated and maybe if luck gets on your side you could be the center of attention to persons unknown but to avoid all this you could play away from all this distraction and in the comfort of your home where security is guaranteed... And in the most unlikely case get hacked. But overall online casinos are by far a better option.

Casino security must be considered before setting up a casino. You build a live casino but people won't enter if you can't provide security. There are no live casinos in my area where I live. Because to me this is a village site and here people consider casino as a curse for ruining a life. Although there are live casino rooms, they are in regional cities which I have not been able to access so far. And especially people are now moving more from live casinos to online casinos. Although online casinos are prone to hacking, you can always use them at home and spend as much time as you want.

When it comes to the whole experience physical casinos are still the best but they have many problems associated with them, like the commute time to get there and to leave, higher minimum bets, not as many games available as their online counterparts and more, online casinos offers many advantages over physical casinos and their only disadvantages are that you may not get as much fun as you can get at psychical casinos due to the lack of company and the risk of being hacked, but the latter can be minimized if you are careful when you use your computer.

Yes this robing and  snatching can happen if you gamble in a under developed and poor country and where everyone is looking at others money . In these countries there is no security in gambling because in most of them this is considered illegal and bad for your life and living.  

In developed countries things might be different as no one is looking at your winning amount and you can be safe in keeping your money at home .

I do not quite understand people who are worried about their safety in land-based casinos because nowadays the black market can buy information about the well-being of almost anyone. Detractors can come to any of us at the most inopportune times, but for some reason many people think it is in the casinos that detractors will be interested in them.

I would advise such people to get their heads in order and exercise to protect themselves in case of need.