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I recently played a slot game named "Wanted dead or a wild", on Livecasino.io and I so much liked it because of the great soundtrack the game had. I have asked here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383930.msg61408673#msg61408673) if anyone has an idea the origin of the songs used in slot games, there was no definite answer, so I am bringing it up here for general discussion.

 Where do slot game developers get the soundtracks they use in their game development? Are soundtracks made specifically for every game (that will be an extra budget) or do they use selected already existing soundtracks and just pay the creators some royalty for using it?

I imagine that like all other game developers, slot game developers get the soundtracks they use from a variety of sources. Those sources include music libraries, professional or freelance composers and production music companies. Music libraries are collections of pre-recorded music tracks that can be licensed for use in a variety of media, including games. Composers are individual musicians who create original music tracks for specific clients or projects. Some slot game developers may also create their own soundtracks in-house using a team of in-house composers and sound designers. It depends on their decision about what they want, what kind of resources are available to them and how much money they can spend.

Every possible thought as to how they get their music is plausible. Technology has made everything you almost dream possible as per composition, integration and adaptation of sound to fit a concept of spin or casino theme, very possible.
The music could be composed if they can afford an orchestra, it could be gotten from game music sites which offer a variety of sounds to pick from. It could also be gotten by using a creators sound and paying royalties. It depends on what the directors agree upon at the end of the day.
The aim of the music is to captivate the users to stick around more.

there are already digital music creator today, one would not need an orchestra to create one. everything is digital like techno music, all you need is arrange the beat and add some components to it. for the Wanted dead or a wild,  its great composition that fits for wild west but doesn't sound very country.

but i think staker is right about music libraries of the game developers. a full package offer for casino business.

Most likely the developers depending on the theme they try to find a soundtrack that fits to that theme.For example I play mostly medieval themes slots and of course the soundtracks are normally slow music and beautiful songs that fit perfectly to the theme of the slots I play.

The ones that go the extra mile that want everything to run smoothly,it would no surprise for me if they spend extra budget for the soundtrack,I know that most of the slot lovers if they don't have soundtracks they like they do not play that long in that particular slot so the soundtracks are some of the most curated elements from the slot providers.

Game developers base their game sound-track on their theme. There are several websites where you can download game soundtracks, sound effects, etc, and you can even contact music composers to create one for you.  One of the reasons why slot games are catchy is because of their soundtrack. Either they create their own sound track or hire composers to do it for them.

First of all, I must commend you for your wonderful comments but nevertheless, your comments is incomplete without you giving examples of such websites. Is it is now, it's merely like an assumption if we have no access to those websites for a personal experience. I will check back later with the hope that you edit your comment and include it. Cheers

Mostly, game developers in any niche, either for gambling or not, hire music composers for so many reasons. First is to avoid being copyrighted, being unique and music/sounds that suited for the kind of game. Although they can just use a copyrighted-free music/sounds but it will defy all of the mentioned above which turns out to be its cons.

Most are existing libraries with copyright and are part of the creative process, licenses for intros or singles are the most used.

There is an App called Shazam decrypts any audio, and it does not do so with that intro, which indicates that it is a specific audio created for that slot.

There are an infinite number of programs to create audio that developers use, as well as companies that take care of such a thing, although the one for that game that you mention seems to me to have a very basic rhythm, anyway, i usually play volume off.

Is this a Gambling issue (topic)?  :)

The track of the game may be trend to the copyright, so the developers should avoid of copying from the old games. If they made such sound also, they need to pay some money as the penalty. No one will like to do the penalty pay for any reason. Instead of feeling at the end of the game, it’s essential one for the precarious position to avoid such things. Most of the developers will create their own way of sound to be notified by the other project. Surely the new project will look the other games sound. This mostly to get the essential one for knew about the sounds of slot games. So it’s essential to made the unique sounds.

It's probably cheap to get someone to compose a simple backing track for a gambling site. Some might use content that's gone out of copyright and can also modify it (such as speeding up a classical tune or changing its key signature).

Have you tried using inspect element to check the resources the site calls to see if there's something well known as an audio like mp3 as you might be able to find the composer, title or a link to where it might be played from (like Spotify)?

As a composer who knows composers, they just pick and choose or order a song from someone who composes tunes for work. Whole net is flooded by talented composers looking for work or to sell their songs so you can probably find something cheap. But if you want quality work you have to pay for it.

Royalties depend on various things. If composer is part any copyright society casino automatically has to play royalties, but it's not much as it's per play per listener. Net streaming has turned royalties to crap. In normal radio they were much higher. Then there obviously are fiverr type services that could basically sell the rights of the song with one time paymenr so casinos wouldn't need to pay anything after that. Also it could be that slot machine team has their own composers / audio effect guys that work for the company. That's what they have been doing in gaming and films. They just hire experts to work with them.

Usually, soundtracks on various games came from their own sources or they outsource those kinds of things from different platforms that offer this service and I think it's just the same with gambling slot games. However, I highly doubt that they outsource and provide royalty to the artist who produces these soundtracks as it will cost them a lot and it may cause confusion on how to pay royalty as it's a gambling game, but things might be different if they produce a custom soundtrack and requested it to be played by famous artists.

I think they hire professional composers for them to create soundtrack for their slot games.

They can't just download anything in the internet even if it's for free. I mean slot games operation are a billion dollar business, so they need to look it very professional. They can spend hundreds of thousand or even million to get a great composer.

And still the margin of profit is going to be very huge for them.

If it's not original music specific for that game then there are the sound marketplaces where they can purchase the licensing of that music to be used over their content.
It's a popular market niche these days where everyone who wants to have that unique sound, can purchase it for permanent usage or just for a specific period of time. But mostly, with these games, they're buying or having someone to work for that music and have it permanently for the license.

You're right.

This slot game is made by https://www.hacksawgaming.com/
These guys are a pro game developer and they have a team of programmers and designers who made these things from scratch. The music is composed for the game and I'm pretty sure they have all the rights.

It's not that hard to make music if you have some experience. It takes time just like drawing or painting but a good composer can make a short tune like the one you hear in slot machines in a couple hours. The soundtrack is on youtube if any of you want to hear it.

I've used to watch content creators on YouTube and some of them said that their fans have asked them where they're getting their background musics/soundtracks. One of the most mentioned is epidemic sound.
Maybe some casino developers are also getting music there, they're not for free and there could be agreements that they would sign for a royalty for using that music or

I agree, they can just outright hire someone to compose one for them.

I believed you will get the most accurate answers from the game developers/game providers instead of us here in the community.

Not unless a part of the developing team will lurk here and they will be able to read this thread or spend time responding here.

In that case, if I have the same concern, maybe I will contact the game provider of that game and will wait for their response. Let's see if they will give some details about the said concern since, after all, the music-related thing shouldn't be something that isn't harmful to discuss.

For me, I think I have played more than five different games on stake.com and they all had the same soundtrack, so by this, I don't think soundtracks are created differently for each and every game, there are some group of slot games that come with the same soundtrack.

And also, me being someone with experience in music development, I would tell you that creating those sound tracks are not as hard as you might think, it is something a professional and good music developer can do in less than 1 hour or 30 minutes, developing the slot game itself is far more heftier than creating and adding the soundtrack to it.

I'm not much into music, based on what you've said I understood that music making is simple for a professional to create for a slot game. The music needs to be created relative to the theme which takes a little time. Most of the time game developers never give importance to music, at times some used to get attracted to these music. One such experience is shared by OP. When I was into gambling even if the volume is at the high, it never reaches ny ears.

There are tons of indie music creators out there that generate tons of flavorful music that is apt for the casino experience. Head on to fiverr for instance and you'll see them offering professional-level soundtrack for only a few hundred dollars. The one I am really awed with in terms of soundtrack are slot games that are future-themed. Idk how they're doing those passages and riffs but man they are music to the ears. It's hard to compose a Western theme that will blend well with slots TBH but they have done it no sweat.

I ever made some videos and use the free music, they give for content. I don't know if the gambling provider uses that free music or paid, but as I know for free music,  it's just standard, not unique and we often hear in many content and video.

So if the provider want to make own music, they must use software like ableton, Audacity and etc. [1]. And, of course the maker must have art soul of music and know how to make people like it.

[1]. https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/tech-takes/best-music-making-software

On Fiverr, you can find a lot of music developers and soundtrack makers for casinos they can pay as long as $50 it depends on the duration of the soundtrack, or they can download and get a license from music portals that sell license soundtracks
There are also Casino Royalty-Free Music & Sound Effects Audio you can find online like this one
https://www.storyblocks.com/audio/search/casino

As others have said, there are a variety of sources out there from commercial-free music to commissioned ones. I reckon what you're looking for is a commissioned one since it's a bgm dedicated to a theme, not particularly sure since idk what specific track you're pertaining to but it should be something like that. Each slot game I assume has a set amount of budget allocated to it, from the theme, design, music, and the like, the side people would mostly notice so to speak. The backend is mostly the same among slots anyway so I don't think much of the budget would go there.

I assume they specifically make it for their game. I mean, any reputable and well-known game developer would want their game soundtrack to be unique for their game. also, I assume they want to avoid any possible issues on their soundtracks, like lawsuits or copyrights which is why making their own soundtrack specifically for their games is better for them legally, it also makes the quality of their game increase.

Creating their own soundtrack is a better choice for casinos, casinos want something that will differentiate them from other casinos, and by hiring or paying a soundtrack developer to create an exclusive soundtrack, gamblers can differentiate casinos with a unique soundtrack, one of the casinos I'm playing that I like their soundtrack because of their uniqueness is Betfury, their Betfury wheel soundtrack is very unique.

Actually you are right, but it's only casino that have to develop or initiate what's different from others, because gambling is something we know that it have to do with different varieties so that people might because of one of their functions or criteria to embrace them, but most at times many casinos do copy each other function to look similar like the one that have influence, but for casino to have attraction of players their most be something different.

Did you try to Shazam the track? That could lead you to the original track where the gambling track was crafted out from. Sounds these days originates from an already existing track which apps like Shazam can show you. Although, It won't be the same with the main sound as they're expected to buy the copyright instead the game developers will decide to create their own sound different from the original. However, they achieve this goal through music producers or free beats on YouTube.

The game becomes more appealing if the soundtrack is attractive I'm sure casinos want the soundtrack to be unique and specifically made for a particular game, casino developers allocate a budget to creating soundtracks for each of their games, so you can feel that you are on your favorite casino just by listening to their soundtracks that's uniquely on their own and besides the budget is not that huge, there are many freelancers soundtrack creators.

Yes, usually a slot game doesn't need a developer but it need a team of developer and they have different rules, they have programmers, designers, and other rules in their teams and sometimes they even have another person who is working the team to supply the soundtracks, some of them will even create the soundtracks using different tool and base on the needs they have but some others will only search in the internet or other places and will just edit the soundtracks the find and some other will just use the original soundtracks from the internet, so it depends on the game and the developers.

I think they create it on their own because getting it somewhere can gave them a copyright claim but maybe what you are saying is possible that they can pay some commission to the original source of that soundtrack. The only downside of doing this is it can be costly because it wasn't usually a one time payment but you will be obligated to pay them like for example per 15 days or per month.

If I were them I will just create my own soundtrack. If I don't have the skills then I will hire a good artist. The artist will only be paid one time and after sometime I already recovered what I've paid for it. Other than a good soundtrack, it's also important for a slot game to have an eye catching graphics. Both of it can already make the player entertain, forgetting their losses if ever they haven't win anything.

Right, the music should be unique and that's coming from the maker itself. As for these game developers, they may make on their own but it's better to get someone who's been doing this all of his lifetime, an expert.
They'll just pay for whatever amount he's asked and pretty sure that it won't be as cheap as it can if it's specialized for their games. And that's why, they just can go to websites like epidemic sound or any music store online where they can get it for specific amount and they've got various choices for it.

They can use any soundtrack that is already available as long as it can connect to the game especially when you hit the jackpot. Also, a developer can make their own soundtrack which can be more easy for them, most of the slots machine today have their own interesting soundtrack, it can actually help to increase the emotion of every gambler, if you are a developer better to create your own.

Making a soundtrack should not be a big problem since everyone can make there own soundtrack and mix it with whatsoever they want or like. There are many site we can get soundtracks either for free or buying them which is also another alternative for developers to make there own work every easier to safe time and stress.

Do you know that some platform does not bring out time to check then say very well but they do like to copy whatever thing that another platform has done so because of that some people now think that using the sense soundtrack with them is kind of copying them to thali so each platform of casino supposed to have their own soundtrack for pending what they have to offer

Copyright-related issues. They can't just use an already available soundtrack for their personal use. They might face the law.

But yes, they can instead make their own by hiring a professional service related to that matter.

That should not be a problem for them since spending money on those is just a common thing to expect.

We don't know where the casino got the soundtrack for each game, and the casino wants to keep it private too. But with so many sources that can help us get the soundtrack, getting help from them is not difficult. The casino or in this case, the developer or provider, can hire a soundtrack maker to work with the casino and make some soundtracks for each gambling game, and I think maybe that's what the casino does. In addition, the casino must also have a coder who can help him get the soundtrack or add the soundtrack.

Probably paid around the web or they have a staff able to create original beats which would be suitable to the gambling platform in general or to a particular game. Quite odd that players are ablee to notice such details which are almost often disregarded. I'm guilty of it 'coz whenever I am playing games except for sportsbetting, I disable the sound then play songs on my personal playlist to ease up my mood. But since there are people who appreciate such feature of a site, gambling platforms might allot time to put extra effort on small details of their site, if this would reach them.
Correct with the copyright issue. But for sure there will be small platforms to feel guilty on such aspect of their site. This will only be given emphasis if the artist would look into it and sue them afterwards but since most of the mainstream artits won't use such time , small commiter of copy right acts, move freely on this web.