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Title: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Obari on December 13, 2022, 05:49:14 PM
In the few period of time I've spent on the forum, I've noticed that most times, people just come to a topic and state their opinions without coming back to add more contributions on such topics, hence discussion seems difficult especially for people in some signature campaigns.
Now my question is,
~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
Let's discuss please


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: jackg on December 13, 2022, 08:33:27 PM
It probably depends on the board. If you're asking for opinions and want to know what people do, are you going to be after a majority or do you just want individual opinions (I've seen topics where I think it's worth mentioning something I've done similar to what's already been said as it gives it a vote in favour of it).

I've done the opposite in a lot of threads and quoted 5+ posts and wondered whether it's going to be too much to read.

Some people in a rush to make posts - particularly those in the gambling campaigns that pay for a certain number of posts in the gambling section - often do just post in response to the OP and sometimes it's fine and other times you can watch a thread grow to be 5 pages in the first day - a lot of the times the OP is asking a question that's been asked before. I'd say from my time as a newbie, I liked it when my threads grew and people mentioned things and discussed what others had said. You don't need everyone to discuss the same things either, for example, you don't normally go 8 posts without someone discussing what's been mentioned previously/in them.


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Upgrade00 on December 13, 2022, 09:44:06 PM
Any sort of reply in a thread is stating your opinion on the matter. I'm doing that now with this reply and others who comment would be doing the same. This is also a form of discussion as in replying to you thread and discussing the matter.
I do reply to some threads after commenting on it, and many members here d the same; when it's necessary.

~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
• Nothing else really to add, or they do not have a notifier bot activated, so they are informed when they are quoted,
• For the above stated reasons, with the addition that they might just be spamming with no intention of joining a conversation.


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: rat03gopoh on December 14, 2022, 04:43:57 AM
Some users have represented answering follow-up questions, so it's better to avoid replying with repetitive core posts.
If people have to follow a topic they've already commented on and just wait to see when someone else's new response will be thrown in, isn't that a waste of time? Every minute there is some new topic that you can possibly respond to perfectly.


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Accardo on December 14, 2022, 04:59:13 AM

~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?


Its not difficult to respond, but when a person doesn't have  anything necessary to say it's better not to respond. Same way with continuity on the forum, if a person researched thoroughly before making a thread they'll definitely stick around to discuss with people on that topic. That's how I know if a person did research their post before sharing. That doesn't mean the OP don't come to check the responses on his post, Its clear that they don't have other things to add, which is not wrong.


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: skarais on December 14, 2022, 05:32:46 AM
~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
I think it really depends on the topic. If the OP asks a question then of course he will get a lot of user responses and opinions. For example, your thread. You have two questions, and of course people will give their opinion. Maybe you need to look at a particular subject of thread to determine if it's a topic of discussion or one expecting a lot of user opinion. The two topic categories are distinguishable, so of course you will get differences.

On the topic of discussion, you have to present the data for discussion and usually the OP doesn't ask questions for readers. And one more thing, you may need to specify your thread title like so:

[Discussion] Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Poker Player on December 14, 2022, 06:08:41 AM
This is not exclusive to this forum, what happens is that signature campaigns exacerbate it. But I see it every day in other forums, even things that here are against the rules like one liners or off topic replies.

When you go beyond page 5 in other forums, either people say what they think without arguing, or those who argue get involved in an argument that no one pays attention to, often going off topic.

Call me conspiranoid if you want but I would say that this thread has more to do with trying to get the minimum weekly merit requirement to not receive half the payout (relaxed requirement on the original) than with a real concern about the issue.


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on December 14, 2022, 06:11:16 AM
OP, because a lot of people just don't read the entire discussion but only reply to the first post. You have been on the forum for a long time, and you know that, basically, many are interested in the number of their posts, so you will see repeated answers from time to time, only in different wording. To be honest, it's quite difficult to keep the discussion going when the answers go to page two, as basically the whole topic is already exhausted after a few replies.


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on December 14, 2022, 06:20:06 AM
Call me conspiranoid if you want but I would say that this thread has more to do with trying to get the minimum weekly merit requirement to not receive half the payout (relaxed requirement on the original) than with a real concern about the issue.
Let me guess. He is in one of Yahoo's campaign and that needs minimum 1 merit to get paid. Fuck I don't have any left 😂
Quote
You have 0 sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people. There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.

Let's discuss please
I honestly ran out of sMerit or I would help you to get that. Tell me what else you want to discuss 😉

Full disclosure: I spend my time on the forum for fun. I like poking people, pissing them off, sometimes being gentle and sometimes being rude. But no, I am not here for serious discussion or showing how intellectual I am. Yes there are some situations when you see something worth having serious points to take and discuss but not all the time.


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Obari on December 14, 2022, 07:13:27 AM
The thread now got an engagement that is nice and most people couldn't write on it because most people got guilty or so but most times the truth are bitter.
@poker player, @BitcoinGirl.club, I wouldn't mind having the merits and no one wouldn't be happy getting merited on a post no matter your rank because the merit(s) shows that you're doing a nice job and your work was nice.
@lovesmayfamilis, you said it all and I had to go check out some topics and it's true that the topic switches even after  just about 5 replies and people just want to write.

There is a special feeling that I always get when I see my topics getting some nice page count which shows people were interested in what I said and I feel so happy when I see my post getting merited which shows that I tried writing something presentable.
One thing I've learnt from the forum is tolerance and accepting my mistakes and also to be able to write more because I was a very poor writer and lately I have the zeal to write more because of this forum.

@skariah, thank you for the suggestion and I think your suggestions did made sense and I I'm accepting your suggestion. Thanks.
I still hope to see more people air out their minds


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Apocollapse on December 14, 2022, 07:22:27 AM
It's not bad to express their own opinion if there's no one have express it before and discussion doesn't mean the user is not a shitposter because most people only repeat what the above have pointed before. I don't mind if it's expressing opinion or continue the discussion, as long as the post is add new idea or insight, it's completely fine.

Actually both combination is much better, usually the user who express their own opinion are only read the thread while the one who continue the discussion is just read the last post of the thread.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: YOSHIE on December 14, 2022, 01:13:09 PM
~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
We here have many places for users who can discuss complaints, cases, discussions, sales, reputation, meta etc., different levels, not all topics can be used as material for long discussions, there are certain limits, already understand the core points of the topic is enough, no need for a longer discussion, the problem has been solved.

~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
It depends, the contents of the topic that you make, if the point is you ask about opinions, of course members who enter your topic will give opinions, if you open a topic of long term discussion, of course users will discuss it for a long time.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Erumo on December 14, 2022, 01:54:51 PM
most people dont even read posts above or even first post. they only read topic subject and already generate a 150 character post for signature campaign  :-\


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Findingnemo on December 14, 2022, 02:48:45 PM
Possible reasons are

They don't really care about discussing or giving opinion, they simply want to fulfill post quota.

Not much of discussion is going on, so they just leave it once giving a opinion.

Every thread doesn't need to be considered as discussion, some only created for a solution so once OP got the answer he will left it without locking.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: drwhobox on December 14, 2022, 03:04:34 PM
I will give you my opinion here to the OP. When the purpose of the topic is already served, there is no point in discussing it. In this forum or any other forum, you will get multiple answers or replies from members, but when the topic is over, it is better to leave rather than carry out the discussion.

Hence, if the topic is suitable for a long discussion, we are here to spend our time on the topic.



Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Hispo on December 14, 2022, 03:26:10 PM
...
~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
Let's discuss please

I share my opinion according to what OP said in their initial post and if someone replies to my answer later, I usually engage in discussion.
Also, when I have some spare time and the thread as a whole has caught my attention when I proceed to read most of the replies and I also try to reply some other users (besides the OP), engaging in further discussion.

As others have already explained, people sometimes simply do not wish to read the whole thread.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: krishnaverma on December 14, 2022, 03:31:45 PM
In the few period of time I've spent on the forum, I've noticed that most times, people just come to a topic and state their opinions without coming back to add more contributions on such topics, hence discussion seems difficult especially for people in some signature campaigns.
Now my question is,
~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
Let's discuss please
You are right. I have also observed that some members starting the threads do not reply to further comments. It can happen sometimes due to busy schedule but if it is being repeated multiple times, it is obvious that purpose of opening threads is to get merits.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: ShowOff on December 14, 2022, 03:53:54 PM
Discussions and express opinions must be interrelated because in the end discussions and express opinions aim to solve problems.

For many discussion thread I think a few posts on the first and second pages have solved the problem, and if the user responds further on page three and beyond then there's probably a lot of repetition in that. Several reasons have already been mentioned and you probably already know them, one of which is that the user is not interested in joining discussion and is not interested in reading all the posts.

One thing I've learnt from the forum is tolerance and accepting my mistakes and also to be able to write more because I was a very poor writer and lately I have the zeal to write more because of this forum.
Just do whatever you want as long as you don't break the rules. You can discuss anything, respond anything, ask questions, answer questions or even guide other users and it's all free for you to do in this forum.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on December 14, 2022, 11:44:16 PM
In the few period of time I've spent on the forum, I've noticed that most times, people just come to a topic and state their opinions without coming back to add more contributions on such topics, hence discussion seems difficult especially for people in some signature campaigns.
Now my question is,
~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
Let's discuss please

It depends on the board in question just as JACK said ...
I use to see a thing like that severally in boards like gambling -- where everyone goes in there to dumb whatsoever shit they've got in their minds, so for the same reason that anything they would say is sometimes just according to the topic sentence, they'll not have to bother reading anyone's opinion -- maybe if someone had said the same thing already? Or if they're really making a point that could revive a discussion? Or if they're making any points at all? ... These questions Don't seem to bother them; all they need is their Post-count, simple.
Yunno we have alot of less oriented peeps in here, that operates in a very lowwww perception based on their inexperience ... you'll be surprised to quote someone on a very important question, on their Post, based on their statement earlier but they'll not a make any reply to that ever again!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Obari on December 15, 2022, 03:06:36 AM
Just do whatever you want as long as you don't break the rules. You can discuss anything, respond anything, ask questions, answer questions or even guide other users and it's all free for you to do in this forum.
This is one nice one that has touched my heart and there is one thing that keeps ringing In my head which is plagiarism and I wasn't too conversant with the word not until I got onboard here.
I personally have learnt alot of things and one thing I always try to do in most of my topics is to follow up discussions and thread and there is always a special joy in my heart the moment my thread starts getting more views and engagements and there is always a greater joy seeing my post getting merited.


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 15, 2022, 04:54:05 AM
This is not exclusive to this forum, what happens is that signature campaigns exacerbate it. But I see it every day in other forums, even things that here are against the rules like one liners or off topic replies.

When you go beyond page 5 in other forums, either people say what they think without arguing, or those who argue get involved in an argument that no one pays attention to, often going off topic.

Call me conspiranoid if you want but I would say that this thread has more to do with trying to get the minimum weekly merit requirement to not receive half the payout (relaxed requirement on the original) than with a real concern about the issue.
Yep, yep, yep, and yep.

Signature campaigns have a lot to do with this phenomenon, and I'd noticed it even before I officially became a member back in 2015.  I was lurking, just trying to get a sense of what the bitcoin community was like, and I was flabbergasted to see the structure of some of the threads, i.e., the lack of back-and-forth discussion that you'd expect to see when people are talking about a topic and presumably reading what others have to say.

I'd say I'm very much guilty of this, but it doesn't have to do with campaigning as much as following up on posts I've written.  It's just laziness on my part, and I don't get alerts or anything like that.  But if it's a thread I'm extremely invested in, then I'll pay attention to it.  Most threads don't meet that qualification lately, though.

And Poker Player, if you're a member of this forum and aren't at least a little bit conspiranoid, you're either a newcomer, aren't paying attention, or don't give a shit about bitcointalk.  Same goes for cynicism as regards motivations and posting habits of members in campaigns or bounties.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: UserU on December 15, 2022, 05:43:06 AM
Yep, yep, yep, and yep.

Signature campaigns have a lot to do with this phenomenon, and I'd noticed it even before I officially became a member back in 2015.  I was lurking, just trying to get a sense of what the bitcoin community was like, and I was flabbergasted to see the structure of some of the threads, i.e., the lack of back-and-forth discussion that you'd expect to see when people are talking about a topic and presumably reading what others have to say.

I'd say I'm very much guilty of this, but it doesn't have to do with campaigning as much as following up on posts I've written.  It's just laziness on my part, and I don't get alerts or anything like that.  But if it's a thread I'm extremely invested in, then I'll pay attention to it.  Most threads don't meet that qualification lately, though.


As long as there are incentives for posting, we won't see that behavior going away anytime soon.

Heck, even my years-old post gets quoted by some members in another community (which pays to post) from time to time.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: GiftedMAN on December 15, 2022, 02:26:23 PM
Just do whatever you want as long as you don't break the rules. You can discuss anything, respond anything, ask questions, answer questions or even guide other users and it's all free for you to do in this forum.
This is one nice one that has touched my heart and there is one thing that keeps ringing In my head which is plagiarism and I wasn't too conversant with the word not until I got onboard here.
I personally have learnt alot of things and one thing I always try to do in most of my topics is to follow up discussions and thread and there is always a special joy in my heart the moment my thread starts getting more views and engagements and there is always a greater joy seeing my post getting merited.

Good to see that the forum has increased your knowledge about certain things like cheating which is the only name I consider suitable for plagiarism and not just the knowledge of cryptocurrency which is the major reason why most users are here@ Obari, I believe you will get more knowledgeable if you continue to do the right things in the forum here. Now about the topic of discussion, the forum is open for for everyone and the moment you start making quality post and useful contributions you will always be noticed regardless of the board you created your thread and one thing is certain and I will like to drop it as a key note so that you don't get angry when you think your post are not getting the rewards that you want, keep doing the good job, keep making quality post the merits will come and it will come even when you list expected it. Your focus should be building and expanding your knowledge and understanding a particular thread before you contribute so you won't go off topic.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Xxmodded on December 15, 2022, 02:47:52 PM
Just do whatever you want as long as you don't break the rules. You can discuss anything, respond anything, ask questions, answer questions or even guide other users and it's all free for you to do in this forum.
Some user break rule without checking early before making topic and not coherence with board and ideas want to explain, many topic move to other board based on break rule and not related based on topic discussing. I agree with you about ability discussing anything here trough allow what rule here, we have freedom for asking questing here but never out off topic and always allowed what rule have been adopted.


For OP never closed your self asking with something still not understanding yet, you have freedom explore your ideas and when getting meaningful post actually easy earn merit points.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: macson on December 16, 2022, 02:12:45 AM
most people dont even read posts above or even first post. they only read topic subject and already generate a 150 character post for signature campaign  :-\
maybe this is what happened but not all of them, there are also many who only make 4-6 posts per day but when they want to reply to that (the post they made) it has been buried far back.  Besides that, some posters certainly don't have words that are suitable for discussion on that topic, so they prioritize making posts on new topics.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: fortunecrypto on December 17, 2022, 01:35:50 PM
In the few period of time I've spent on the forum, I've noticed that most times, people just come to a topic and state their opinions without coming back to add more contributions on such topics, hence discussion seems difficult especially for people in some signature campaigns.
Now my question is,
~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
Let's discuss please

Not really difficult I sometimes go back to the discussion I posted when there is a need to address or add, on something I posted, discussions are all about facts and opinions if you already posted your opinion and come back to agree with other opinions the discussion becomes redundant and you're spamming, there is no rule in many campaigns that you can only post once in a discussion, it's on the poster if he wants to comeback when he has already given everything he knows about the topic.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: _BlackStar on December 17, 2022, 04:44:56 PM
Not really difficult I sometimes go back to the discussion I posted when there is a need to address or add, on something I posted,
I agree, that's why users need to check who quoted their post if they don't have notification bot enabled. Some things can still be discussed on the same topic when someone quotes our post, it's clear there are no restrictions for whoever you are.

Making multiple posts on the same topic is fine, but if it's for something pointless then it will probably just end up as spamming. Well, we know that topics that are interestingly discussed tend to have higher-quality posters, whereas if the topic of discussion is not very interesting it will soon be buried by other topics.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: coin-investor on December 17, 2022, 09:08:58 PM
In the few period of time I've spent on the forum, I've noticed that most times, people just come to a topic and state their opinions without coming back to add more contributions on such topics, hence discussion seems difficult especially for people in some signature campaigns.
Now my question is,
~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
Let's discuss please

We have so many members and if we quote a lot of member's posts the topic will be out of focus, once you post your facts and opinions on the subject there's no need to come back you can only come back and quote if there is additional info on the topic that you think is not yet added by other members, I don't want a topic about a casino that will end a topic about on something out of it, like a dog.
I'm not against coming back to discuss further on the topic I always do that on main events like boxing where I first post about the fight before it happens and come back after the fight for post analysis.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: robelneo on December 18, 2022, 02:48:05 AM
In the few period of time I've spent on the forum, I've noticed that most times, people just come to a topic and state their opinions without coming back to add more contributions on such topics, hence discussion seems difficult especially for people in some signature campaigns.
Now my question is,
~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
Let's discuss please
I can only give my own side its not difficult to come back for me but I make sure that it will not create a mega thread or out of topic on the main topic, and if ever I did not come back its because I have explored every possible answer based on what I know on the subject, if the subject is an ongoing event like the World Cup or a boxing event especially when it's happening I usually comeback hours after the fight to give an update if there are no updates, while the event is happening and after the events to give a breakdown of the performance, it really depends on the subject.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: tranthidung on December 18, 2022, 09:57:37 AM
It's not for all cases but mostly, posters release their posts that way simply because they are in signature campaigns and they mainly mind about their post count.

Post quality, discussion context etc. are not things existing in their mind when they're composing their posts.

  • Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0)
  • Forum welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0)

Two above topics please read have some valuable points for posters especially spammers who are ready to improve their posting style, posting quality and achieve something like: contributing more for the forum, forum community; ranking up for themselves; having better chances to join better campaigns and receiving better salary for their posts.

(4) Never mind of bounties, campaigns when you are noobs
Reasons:
- Campaigns are there, open then close, then others open and close, from time to time. You should never worry that you miss this chance, that chance, this campaign, that campaign, something like this.
It is the same as merits. Lots of users complain that merits are rare, I can not get merits due to it is rare. Nope, merits (more exactly, sMerits - sendable merits) are available, everywhere in the forum. There are so many merit sources, normal users, who have lots of sMerits readily to send out. They kept them partially due to quality posts are rare, not sMerits.
- Instead of paying too much attention, and time on hunting for bounties, especially bounties that have easy rules and joinable for low rank users; you should start learning, reading, and build up your accounts.
When you hit your finish lines, it's time for you to seriously think of joining bounties.

(6) Spend your time to improve your English, especially Reading and Writing skills
Reasons:
- If you can not read posts or topic in English well, can not get ideas of posts' / topics' authors, it means that you have nothing to do in the forum.
Remember that you have to get their ideas well enough to not misunderstand their core ideas.
- Next, after reading good enough to catch authors' ideas, it is time for you to express your own ideas in case you have something to ask for help, something to discuss, or something meaningful to help others. This is the time you need to have good enough Writing skill.
This is why I mentioned you should improve your English skills, step by step, from Reading to Writing. Of course, you can improve both skills simultaneously.
The forum is the place almost solely for discussions via Reading and Writing.
You can find available sources for English learning in the References at the end of this OP.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on December 18, 2022, 12:17:38 PM
I think that's because many users don't have a notification medium to alert them when they get quoted. I don't have the numbers of users using the notification tools some kind hearted members of the forum has created but I guess it won't be much compared to the percentage of users not using them. If they had that and get notified each time they get mentioned on the forum, I'm sure they would respond and continue discussion on the threads they write. The forum is actually funds to write in and people will be genuinely interested in continues discussion, I know I would.

Before the telegram notification bot I'm using to get notifications got developed, I take time to go through threads I commented previously on to see if there's a response for me to give my feedbacks. Although some topics and quoted replys aren't worth continues discussion as you just have to state your opinion and move on, so don't blame members when they do such.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: dimonstration on December 18, 2022, 12:33:35 PM
In the few period of time I've spent on the forum, I've noticed that most times, people just come to a topic and state their opinions without coming back to add more contributions on such topics, hence discussion seems difficult especially for people in some signature campaigns.

What kind of contribution you are looking for aside from opinionated reply on a discussion forum? The OP main job is to lock the thread once he received the reply that he wants when he open the topic but many OP usually leave there thread high and dry despite its asking an opinion is the main reason why it always flooded with opinionated replies.

Same on your topic that you are asking a question which means it has different answer on each user perspective. The only way to make a thread clean from opinion that you didn’t want is to set it on self moderated thread.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Saisher on December 18, 2022, 09:56:24 PM

Heck, even my years-old post gets quoted by some members in another community (which pays to post) from time to time.

There's always a notification if you're going to post on an old topic I don't usually post on that topic because it could be irrelevant might as well create a new one but with additional information, posters should always mind if the topic is old and irrelevant the members that posted in those topics are not active in the discussion anymore so when you quote them you might not get the answer that you want.

Going back to the topic It always depends on the kind of topic if there is a need to come back if the topic is all about asking for information and you have given and all the members have completed the information OP wants then, it's time to move on and there is no need for a lengthy discussion.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Mpamaegbu on December 19, 2022, 08:57:29 AM
~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?
Opinion – Discussion.
Discussion – Opinion.

Your observation is right OP. However, I don't think it's because they can't hold a discussion down. It could be other reasons. We get to see more of such scenarios with lower ranked accounts (I'm not saying this condescendingly) and I want to believe it's because they may not know how to watch or remember topics/threads they've commented on to do a follow-up on them. Except one has the BTT bot notifier, it's a huge task following up on discussions if one didn't put them on watch. Sometimes it could be that they get their answers in all within a few responses and don't feel the need to spam in order to meet weekly quota.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on December 19, 2022, 09:25:00 AM
In the few period of time I've spent on the forum, I've noticed that most times, people just come to a topic and state their opinions without coming back to add more contributions on such topics, hence discussion seems difficult especially for people in some signature campaigns.

This should be individuals responsibility to know how to engage on a discussion and now discover the need for it, are they participating on a discussion only to fulfill the requirements for posting or because they have find the topic an interesting aspect they will love to contribute band still follows up the discussion, also I've thought about it that how will memebers feels if there's no actually a signature campaign to participate in, will members still remains active and contributes as expected, but to cap it all, both the two are essentially since both you benefiting from a signature campaign and the forum from your quality contributions to the community.

~Why does it seem difficult to continue a discussion on a topic.

It shouldn't be a must thing to continue a follow up onna discussion especially when there's no more idea or things to update and talk about, it also depends on the kind of topics discussion, some are on an extensive kind which needed a continuous attention of OP to also partake in it by giving an updates on same discussion matter, but in other to maintain a post quality then it shouldn't be a must if there's no need to.

~Why do people just state their opinions rather than continue a discussion?

I Know if am also going to dig deep on your profile i may find you as well involved on this category, there's nothing bad as long as it's not included on the forum rules and regulations, if you gat nothing to offer then posting may not be required because any posting not received as expected can be termed as spamming or off topic if you're not on point, this makes the forum to have enough boards you can find your post fit in.


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: UserU on December 19, 2022, 11:57:03 AM
There's always a notification if you're going to post on an old topic...

Wait, there is? Like the same kind when you suddenly remembered to post on a thread that you left hanging and then there's the red "Your session has timed out" text thingy?


Title: Re: Most users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: NdaMk on December 19, 2022, 04:47:15 PM
Some people get bored discussing a specific topic in the forum, so they move from one board to another to share their thoughts. You can't blame people for contributing a little quota in a given topic because they're diverse and want to contribute everywhere. In most cases like this, only the OP follows up on replies given to his topic on what he asked about, and asks additional questions if more explanation is required.

A board where've seen more discussion to a topic posed is the technical board. Most users that discuss there are vast in knowledge in that aspect and it's their everyday work, unlike other boards that anyone with basic knowledge can share their views about a question asked. Basically, it depends on the board the question is asked and the more knowledge people have about the topic.


Title: Re: Why do users just state their opinion on a topic rather than discuss it
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 19, 2022, 05:02:34 PM
This is not exclusive to this forum, what happens is that signature campaigns exacerbate it. But I see it every day in other forums, even things that here are against the rules like one liners or off topic replies.

When you go beyond page 5 in other forums, either people say what they think without arguing, or those who argue get involved in an argument that no one pays attention to, often going off topic.

There are campaign managers who may start ignoring your posts if it's almost only you discussing in a topic.
And yes, there are the many who just post something and move on.
These are both problems of the signature campaigns.

And I don't even talk about the "past page 5" area which in many cases becomes a meaningless mess.

But in a discussion it's good to wait for a third person's answer too sometimes, in order to prove your or thee other guy's point.
Or sometimes you or somebody else give the right answer and one simply doesn't have anything to add there.
And then instead of a not-really-valuable "You're right", people just move on, leaving topics look unfinished (although sometimes the merits on a posts tell the story).

So there are various cases and you seem to not care much into differentiating them in order to find some good directions (or even answers).
I tend to believe that Poker Player is right on this, especially as it's not the only topic you've made under this same format lately (I'd be happy to be wrong though).

Call me conspiranoid if you want but I would say that this thread has more to do with trying to get the minimum weekly merit requirement to not receive half the payout (relaxed requirement on the original) than with a real concern about the issue.



There's always a notification if you're going to post on an old topic...

Wait, there is? Like the same kind when you suddenly remembered to post on a thread that you left hanging and then there's the red "Your session has timed out" text thingy?

If you write into an old topic, you'll get a red "Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days." message on top of the edit box.

A board where've seen more discussion to a topic posed is the technical board. Most users that discuss there are vast in knowledge in that aspect and it's their everyday work, unlike other boards that anyone with basic knowledge can share their views about a question asked. Basically, it depends on the board the question is asked and the more knowledge people have about the topic.

Indeed, there are some debate there now and then, or people can easier correct one another. Good point.