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Bitcoin is a QT, Bitcoin is art.

As any piece of art, its beauty gets brighter and greater as you understand it. Unlike many contemporary art examples, Bitcoin's beauty can be experienced by most people. That's the main goal of its decentralized character. Bitcoin is art because the process of understanding it is entirely subjective, and it goes through several layers. This layers are only to be discovered if you are able to surrender your ego, and decide to submerge deep into the rabbit hole. Its surface traps you with your own greed being reflected, so at first you could see it as a speculative asset, or simply as magic internet money. But it is just a thin layer of what Bitcoin is underneath.

Each new cicle Bitcoin has successfully proven that its value is real. Understanding this, requires the observer to question what is value, what is money, and how our system works. No art piece before Bitcoin have achieved this level of self reflection and awareness in a more effective and decentralized way. But there is more, as value is just one of those layers you could see if you decide to understand Bitcoin. When most people get to understand the layer of value, Bitcoin is already unveiling how it could be the solution for other problems that many though unsolvable.

Since genesis block there were keys hidden into those other problems that Bitcoin could fix:

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There is a correlation between economic crisis and wars. War has been though as a escape, as a perfect smokescreen, but each war only further deepens the hole. Bitcoin doesn't like war, as its price action has proven each time they succumb to their madness. Bitcoin is art because when you as a Bitcoiner realice this fact, you can't no longer be in support of war as it will affect your bags and your wealth. Bitcoin means of expression is through truth, and truth is tough. But again, this chicken and egg situation between war and economic crisis is just another layer, and the rabbit hole goes way deeper.  

Bitcoin is art because when you get to the point of understanding all this, you'll ask yourself if Bitcoin is some kind of magic; If it was created by aliens, or by an artificial intelligence. But the only real and logical explanation is that it was created by an artist. Bitcoin is such a powerful Graffiti on the central banks walls, that the artist haven't had the need to speak for years, as this art piece is strong from within, and it speaks loud and with eloquence.

Bitcoin's expressiveness reach is now knocking on climate change doors, presenting itself and standing as a solution for the most crucial problem in humanity's history. All this, while most of Bitcoiners haven't even recognize it as a problem yet, Bitcoin is already solving it. But proposing itself as a solution for climate change is just another layer.

Bitcoin is an ever evolving powerful work of art without any aesthetic limitations on what it can accomplish. The most ambitious and powerful global graffiti timechain.  

Bitcoin is freedom.

Art is freedom.

Bitcoin is art.

Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer electronic currency, just like Satoshi said. When people start calling it something else, like "a swarm of digital hornets", "digital gold", "art", "revolution" and so on, it suggests that it isn't doing well as currency, because otherwise people wouldn't need to create new narratives of what Bitcoin is.

As for art, wikipedia defines it as:


And Bitcoin is neither of those things, it's simply a tool for storing and transferring value online.

Bitcoin can be considered a form of art. The process of understanding it, as you described, is subjective and can be seen as a journey of self-discovery and self-reflection. As with any art, the beauty of Bitcoin can be appreciated more deeply as one understands it better. The decentralized nature of Bitcoin allows for a more inclusive and democratic form of artistic expression, with the potential to inspire critical thinking and questioning of societal norms.

Additionally, the way that Bitcoin has been able to evolve and adapt to address various challenges, such as economic crises and climate change, can be seen as a form of artistic creativity and innovation. The anonymous creator(s) of Bitcoin, often referred to as Satoshi Nakamoto, can be seen as an artist who has left a powerful and lasting mark on the world through their creation. Overall, the idea that Bitcoin is a form of art is an interesting and thought-provoking one.

Bitcoin is a peer to peer electronic cash system that works perfectly as a currency. No Narratives needed for it to be a currency nor an art piece.

Although this definition runs short as what art is: "creative or imaginative talent expressive of technical proficiency, beauty, emotional power, or conceptual ideas." Bitcoin is a minimalist code which is speech. A Creative speech. a technically proficient code. A beautiful code for a currency. A code So powerfully filled with conceptual ideas, that evokes all sort of emotions.

Bitcoin is Art because some perceive it just as a digital currency. Some others as a store of value. Bitcoin is art because those who are against it because of their own fears, subjectively perceive it as a ponzi, and when their paranoia exceeds rationality, they even feel Bitcoin as a weapon. This is why Bitcoin is art.

Bitcoin can be art if you want it to be, it can also be a currency, or an asset, or a ticket to freedom or another explanation you make of it. Your Bitcoin is yours to define and yours to use.

I prefer holding bitcoins and spending the only when necessary, many would argue that that's bad practice and you should use it as a currency wherever it's accepted for a product you need. We both have different definitions of it based on our locations and needs.

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The only way you shouldn't use Bitcoin is installing a third party, which it was created to eliminate.

There is nothing more private and personal than your own aesthetic experience.

Kinda disagree with you.  Bitcoin is a work of art.  It is a resulting product of human activity.  Unless you don't consider Satoshi Nakamoto a human. ;D

Bitcoin is created by an imaginative talent expressive of technical proficiency.  Bitcoin is also created by the emotional power of debunking financial institutions and has conceptual ideas of banking the unbanked. 

It all sums up with freedom so yes, in someone's perspective bitcoin is an art to them and much more than art like those collectibles that has engraved bitcoins on those physical coins.  8)

It's like that we're talking about bitcoin  asan investment and a digital currency for the others. While the others that can't move on and can't accept, they tell that it's just an illusion. I still see many people thinks like about bitcoin.

When a small percentage of people use strange and unrelated definitions to describe Bitcoin, it shows their mentality not what Bitcoin really is or how it's performing. For example from early days there has been some people who call bitcoin a "Ponzi scheme" but that is not a comment on Bitcoin but on their understanding of Bitcoin (or rather lack of understanding).

It's up to you to present bitcoin in any way possible based on your background, bitcoin is still bitcoin. The way you use it is art, the way you store PK in various forms of media is art, and the way scammers steal people's bitcoins is also art.

Satoshi isn't an artist.

Bitcoin is performing very well against every other asset on a monthly chart.

Bitcoin is a digital currency. Bitcoin is a store of value. Bitcoin is the world's most secure transactional network. Bitcoin is public infrastructure. Bitcoin is at the core of the new and deflationary economic system. Bitcoin is code, and Bitcoin is art

Art is not a strange unrelated definition, but the broadest.

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You don't have one single argument to prove your assumption. Review Bitcoin's original logo design. Graphic design is art.

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Thank you. You understand Bitcoin. But there's no single evidence pointing on the direction of a group of people behind the pseudonym.

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bitcoin is not art, you write art is freedom, and bitcoin is freedom.
it is true that there is freedom in bitcoin, but still freedom in bitcoin and art are different.
bitcoin has its own rules, and art also has its own rules.
the meaning of bitcoin and art is different,
- ART
Art is the skill of making quality works, such as dance, painting, carving. Art includes many human activities in creating visual, audio, or performance works that express the imagination, ideas, or technical skills of the maker, to be appreciated for their beauty or emotional strength.
Wikipedia source

- BITCOINS
Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency that can be bought, sold and exchanged directly, without intermediaries such as banks.

meaning and understanding are also different,
bitcoin is not art, bitcoin is digital money.

Bitcoin could be compared to a collective performance work "that express the imagination, ideas, or technical skills of the maker" and of the decentralized collective.

Only rules that apply for art are those self contained by a particular art piece. Just as the only rules that apply for Bitcoin are those within Bitcoin's code.

Bitcoin and art are two different things,bitcoin is a digital currency that is based on decentralized system which is used to pay for goods and services,it has a major benefit than art. Though, they are both creativity but have different concept. Art has been there for a very long time and has something to do with gift and talent.

Many people see bitcion as a valuable asset and they tend to call it so many names due to the way they understand from their reasoning. If you are calling bitcoin a separate name apart for its name,then you should keep it to yourself and not trying to convince people to accept your own perspective about bitcoin. You can not call

You're underestimating art. Bitcoin being Art is not a bad thing. Bitcoin is many things. Not just a decentralized digital currency.

It is one thing to say or use an analogy to express ideas associated with a concept, a fact, etc. and another very different thing is to assume that such a thing is so or to convert the comparative or the analogy into equality.

Art (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artl) mainly uses tangible elements, as a form of expression to recreate feelings, emotions or what each person may well feel when seeing or observing a creation that has such an end.

Among the categories of art that exist, it does not fit into any, it is an invention and the inventions that have been developed throughout humanity have served to create art or enjoy, the music, for example, the phonograph continues to be a great invention.

Now recreating a phonograph, in a painting, a craft, is or could be a work of art.

Perhaps if someone thinks of writing a book telling the history of bitcoin, it will become a literary work of art based on one of the greatest technological inventions of the 21st century.

Now! if you understand that, anyone can say, Bitcoin is "art" but don't forget inverted commas "".  :)

Everything is art these days. I hear football is also art. One basic and common similarities that leads to this act of categorisation is mostly due to the creativity nature for an association.

On the forum, we've had people code private keys and have people search for it as a way of getting rewards for solving some puzzle. Now that's art.
How about the collectibles, that's some art too.

We can also look at the noting of certain blocks on the bitcoin blockchain. Let's say, the genesis block, that too could he said to be art. The creation of some rear peice and we value it.

Art could be anything really!

 


An actress on a theater's stage applies untangible "elements, as a form of expression to recreate feelings, emotions or what each person may well feel when seeing or observing a creation that has such an end."

"Among the categories of art that exist, it does not fit into any" I agree, Bitcoin creates its own categories. Bitcoin is at the core of the new deflationary economic system, a new economic system that is yet to be named by us.

"Now! if you understand that, anyone can say, Bitcoin is "art" but don't forget inverted commas "".  :) " I don't agree with the separation of Arts and crafts, as it's mostly founded on ethnocentrism, and assumed from a naive misinterpretation of the other. I prefer the Bauhaus approach.

I'm sorry if i might've ofended someone with my interpretation of Bitcoin. It was not my intention.

If we consider anime movies as art and digital paintings and digital characters as art, then why shouldn't we say Bitcoin as virtual currency as art?  The one I cited examples is non-tangible because they are digital entities but then many accept them as art because it conveys the feeling or emotion of the creator or conveys the definition of art in it.  Isn't Bitcoin created in the same manner?  So what makes it an exemption in this case?



And also possible that they have more understanding of Bitcoin than the normal Bitcoin enthusiast does.  ;)

If everything was great, people wouldn't be creating these alternative narratives so often. I never saw anyone saying that Visa or Mastercard is a work of art, or that it's the most important thing in human history. Yet billions of people use it every day. Without singing praises to it, without even thinking about it, because it just works.

 

Visa and Mastercard networks, are not as secure as Bitcoin.

They're just private centralized transactional networks. They're not a store of value, they are not the core of a new economic system and definitely not works of art.

Unfortunately though, After  the Full-RBF option was included into Bitcoin Core V24, Bitcoin is now closer to being just another Visa or Mastercard, and farther away from being the store of value the Blockchain industry needs Bitcoin to be.

Your answer is too official and rigorous. As CZ said, everyone is Satoshi, so what is Bitcoin? Everyone has an answer. It's just that everyone's mentality and financial situation are different, and their views on Bitcoin are also different. The answers are colorful and there is no correct answer.

Satoshi have innovated for some reason. It have got multiple usage from then, but now only it is slowly getting into the prime purpose for which this is being innovated. Being an art and being a transaction gateway have got difference. Same as that being an investment and being a currency have got difference. To me it is a currency, for someone it can be a art. So, it is upto the users mind and how they take it.

You could call it that if you want to. Art could be used in a wide array of things. You could call technologies art. Food is even also an art in somebody else's mind. Even practical tools could also be considered art. So are wines, chocolate, fruits, animals, etc. They could exude so much beauty, craftmanship, fine details, etc that you could them pieces of art. The world itself could also be a work of art.

But this description does not actually represent what Bitcoin can actually do in the real practical lives of people.

I don't think bitcoin is art in the traditional sense, but it is a great technical or scientific innovation.

Art and science are two different things.

Bitcoin is Art without the inverted commas and in capital letters because it is at the core of an aesthetical revolution.

Bitcoin is not only at the core of the new deflationary economic system, it goes well beyond those practical purposes.

Bitcoin is The digital store of value, but first it redefined value.

Bitcoin is Art because it will redefine Art.

A new economic system comes together with a new aesthetic thinking.


So what is Art in the days of Bitcoin ?

Art must have all Bitcoin's characteristics in order to be Art in the days of Bitcoin:


Disruptive

Scarce

True

Authorship secure (even in anonymity)

Decentralized

Publicly available

Unstoppable

Coherent with the continuation of the species. (Art in favour of life)
 


#NoFullRBF

Hey!  You don't get any closer to Bitcoin by using the adjective art, and even less if you use it to make it rhyme like a poet.

 And it is the metaphorical point of the conjunction, it is just that.

 In fact, you don't get OT if you use the premises of Bitcoin and put the word art before it.

 The point is that we fall into a melancholic, platonic situation where perhaps the least there is Bitcoin discussion.
 :)
So,
Ok! : Bitcoin is Art".

You are all wrong in our opinion.

Art is merely expression.

We all use bitcoin to express ourselves in a multitude of different ways.

That must mean bitcoin = art?

Or are we missing something?

You are missing the key points of this thread:

1. #NoFullRBF

2. Bitcoin genesis block hidden messages.

3. Bitcoin is at the core of the new deflationary economic system, yet to be named.

4. Bitcoin is a work of art.

5. Bitcoin opens the door for a new aesthetic thinking.


I'll love to further discuss these 5 key points.




The thing about being disruptive, is that everyone thinks you are wrong at first. Just as many renowned economists think Bitcoin is wrong even today.

Art is not merely expression. Art can be a comfortable building, or a very efficient bridge too. Just taking architecture into consideration.  

Damn, you woke up and decided to spit facts! Right on.

Whether something is art or isn't is subject to many debates. Some believe art should express universal values, others value originality, uniqueness. Some think art is purely subjective, but many believe that it can roughly be judged objectively (which is how the value and recognition of some work over other is possible).
Bitcoin isn't subjective to me. In fact, it's all about verifiable things and consensus. There can be different purposes for Bitcoin, but they aren't limitless and largely fall into gambling, trading, hodling, using it as money.
As a person who teaches logic, I also can't help but point out a logical mistake in the last three sentences (if we take them together, as two premises and a conclusion). Even if Bitcoin is freedom and art is also freedom, that doesn't mean that Bitcoin is art. Simple example: apples are fruit, oranges are fruit, but apples aren't oranges.

Once I thought that art is only what is painted on canvas, or carved out of stone. But in fact, there is a solid art surrounding us - starting from ingenious engineering solutions, ending with beautifully written program code. All this is real art. And of course, the very idea of cryptocurrencies and its implementation is something even more than art. This is real freedom!

You should not make heavy about how the Op tried to paint bitcoin. I do not think he means anything bad. It could he is trying to see bitcoin from the eye of an artist. I see what the Op said as a kind of poem on bitcoin. Poets have their way of saying things. Every other person that qualified bitcoin different from what Satoshi said it is not saying it because they are trying to rubbish bitcoin or Satoshi's statement of fact. It is only that they want to add more attributes to bitcoin on how it appeals to them.

Code = Speech

Speech = subjective expression

Art = subjective freedom

Bitcoin = Code for freedom (financial freedom) 

Bitcoin = Speech for freedom

speech for freedom = subjective expression for freedom

subjetive expression for freedom = subjective freedom

Bitcoin = Art


NoFull-RBF
 

Do not think it is good idea to talk about payment method as an art. It have to be serious financial thing

Bitcoin is the most serious financial solution: The most valuable transactional network in the world. The most robust supranational public infrastructure. Bitcoin is many things, among them, Bitcoin is also a beautiful work of art. Art is serious, and Bitcoin's solemnity is secured by inmutable code.  

Well some people say every inventor is a little bit an artist

On this day 13 years ago, The Bitcoin Logo with the B symbol was presented in the following thread, and it was a gold coin, Bitcoin is digital gold: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64.msg504#msg504