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Title: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Sayakaaja on December 31, 2022, 04:14:15 AM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Despairo on December 31, 2022, 04:41:08 AM
Yes.

You can read in this thread where you must have both activity and merit if you want to rank up Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0).

It doesn't like in the past before 2018 where you can rank up if you only have activity, merit is a way to prevent from spammers and low quality post users. So if you don't get any merit, it mean you're a shitposter.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: owlcatz on December 31, 2022, 04:48:14 AM
Yes.

You can read in this thread where you must have both activity and merit if you want to rank up Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0).

It doesn't like in the past before 2018 where you can rank up if you only have activity, merit is a way to prevent from spammers and low quality post users. So if you don't get any merit, it mean you're a shitposter.

This is not true. Many sections have Merit-sources who do not hand out merits properly IMO. Just learn, read, and post what you can. Merits come with Knowledge and trust. ;)


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: CageMabok on December 31, 2022, 04:48:55 AM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
Yes, you will not experience an increase in rank if you do not get merit. And you can visit the two threads that have been created by theymos and hilariousandco for an explanation of this merit. Please visit the two threads that I have provided below

  • Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0)
  • FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.msg28250551#msg28250551)

Technically, how to get merit is different for every forum user, so I won't explain this in more detail because you only need to make useful posts in general so that people in this forum want to send merit to you through the posts you make. Then contribute properly in the forum from now on.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: LDL on December 31, 2022, 04:58:11 AM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
You must earn merit to change your rank.

The Bitcoin Forum has been going through various changes, expansions, plans over time.  From 22 November 2009 to 17 June 2013 the forum rank fluctuated with no activity.
At that time, the rank would change only when the full member had 100 posts, the senior member had 250 posts, the hero member had 500 posts and the legendary member had 1000 posts.

18 June 2013 to 23 January 2018 requires activity with Bitcoin forum posts.  Brand New requires 0 posts 0 activities, Newbie 1-28 posts 28 activities, Junior members 30 activities, Members 60 activities, Full members 120 activities, Senior members 240 activities, Hero members 480 activities, Legendary members 960 activities.

Since 24th January 2018, activity as well as merit system has been introduced.  Now it's not just about activity but it has to have merit number.

Brand new/Newbie (0 activity, 0 merits)
Junior member (30 activity, 1 merit required)
Member ( 60 activity, 10 merit required)
Full member ( 120 activity, 100 merit required)
Senior member (240 activity, 250 merit required)
Hero member (480 activity, 500 merit required)
Legendary member ( 960-1000 activity, 1000 merits required)

Please visit here for more information: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170032.msg51993801#msg51993801 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170032.msg51993801#msg51993801)


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Peanutswar on December 31, 2022, 05:35:55 AM
As per requirements to rank up you need some merit with the specific range of it, see other members quoted for the requirement you are still a newbie so why not take some time to learn from others here try to observe how they get merit we came from the newbie rank too and having trouble to get merit but sooner or later when you did know how does the merit get you can get yours too, observe first don't get pressure yourself once you think you can share information, thoughts, and knowledge to other members that benefit them merit follows. Don't get the courage to because of the merit system to learn.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on December 31, 2022, 08:10:25 AM
I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

Yes you cannot rank up without fulfilling the merit requirements for each rank even if your activities are up to it, the reason why merit was introduced was to curb or stop spammers from ranking up, if you're not a spammer and you post very well with quality standards, and what you also post contains important informations that is full of thoughts, members may find it interesting to merit you and you get receiving merits till you meet the required merit for each rank, if you don't post well or if you spam, troll or post shits, no one will merit you and you will not be able to rank up.



Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on December 31, 2022, 08:25:41 AM
It doesn't like in the past before 2018 where you can rank up if you only have activity, merit is a way to prevent from spammers and low quality post users. So if you don't get any merit, it mean you're a shitposter.
Yes I remember this time when I was about to become a full member then suddenly the merit was implemented then thats it. Ive stayed as member rank for too long and needed merits to gain higher rank. Its very memorable to me cause I think 2 weeks left if I remembered it correctly and my activity is enough to rank then boom.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Rikafip on December 31, 2022, 08:48:57 AM
You are correct, no merit means no ranking up. And in order to get merit your posts have to be helpful to someone, which they currently aren't. From what I can see, you are not actively participating in discussions and instead you read the first post of topic, leave your opinion on the matter (and its usually 2-3 sentences) and move to another one.
The fact that you are mostly active in Politics & Society and Off-Topic boards doesn't help either (as they are historically low merit boards) but its possible to get merit there as well if you add value to discussions.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Outhue on December 31, 2022, 10:10:47 AM
Merit comes when you least expected it, do not hunt for it, instead keep making contribution and you will earn merits, if anyone on this forum is not earning merits and their activity is over 50 then they are shit posters, it is impossible to make 50 quality posts and none get merited.

If you thing you have any quality posts or topics drop a link and let me check it out, if good enough I will merit the post.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: fortunecrypto on December 31, 2022, 10:14:58 AM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

I understand your frustration because you have 112 posts and not yet rank up to JR.Member and still in a newbie rank, I checked your post history some of them deserve merits but unfortunately, they're unnoticed, I merited one of your posts that deserves it and encourage you to keep up creating posts like that, the one I merited, once you get the habit of posting relevant and good posts the merits will come automatically.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: BRINIRHA on December 31, 2022, 10:32:14 AM
Activity and Merit are required to rank up. And if you talk about merit, it will actually come to you when you make a post that is quite useful for those who read it or can be called a quality post. post quality itself varies. But quality posts are usually always informative (useful for readers) and certainly contain insights in them. so that people who read and feel helped by the post will voluntarily give you Merit.

and I think you have good potential and have some pretty high-quality posts. But unfortunately you often make posts on boards that are not paid much attention to by Sumber Merit. so your posts haven't gotten any Merit.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: BlackBoss_ on December 31, 2022, 10:50:53 AM
please explain, and thank you
At each board, you will have sticky or pinned threads that give you mostly basics you need to start in that board.

[Bitcointalk sticky threads] Newbies - read before starting. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279088.0)

I have my newbie kit but you can bookmark good threads for yourself and make your personalized newbie kit

▶️ Forum basics
⭐ Rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)
⭐ Ranks, positions, badges (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0)
⭐ Everything about ranks, activity, merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0)
▶️ [Guide] Searching effectively (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276341.0)
▶️ Read before posting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0)
▶️ Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0)

🔥 Welcome (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0)

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?
You must have enough merit for each member ranks to get that rank.
Forum rank

When you start out, you are a Newbie, and you will run into various annoying limits. These limits will be reduced to the point where you shouldn't usually notice them after you have participated in the forum for a few weeks. If you are on the forum to talk, then that's all you really need to know about rank. Don't worry about it too much, and you will eventually rank up.

If you want to maximize your rank, then you need to increase two statistics which are listed on your profile:
  • Activity, which is maximized by posting once per day on average. Posting more than that is useless in raising your activity.
  • Merit, which is gained by making good posts.

If you make ten thousand posts in a week, your activity will be capped and you will still be a Newbie. If you make ten thousand useless posts over any period of time, you will gain zero merit and you will still be a Newbie. You can rank up only by making good posts consistently. It's quality over quantity.

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.

It is good if you know about Forum purposes because it can help you be a better member in this community.
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The purpose of the forum

This forum exists to provide a platform for the free (but ordered) exchange of ideas. If you have an idea to express, then it is probably possible to do it here as long as you follow the rules.

A lot of people come here primarily looking to make money. The forum administration is very happy that people are able to use the forum in order to better themselves; indeed, one of the reasons for Bitcoin's creation was to break the artificial barriers which prevent so many people around the world from attaining prosperity. However, if your attempts to make money conflict with the forum's primary goal of enabling discussion, then you are swimming upstream, and you will not be sucessful in the end.

If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic. If you do make money using the forum, then it will be through innovation and entrepreneurship, not any sort of mindless busywork.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: LDL on December 31, 2022, 10:58:06 AM


I understand your frustration because you have 112 posts and not yet rank up to JR.Member and still in a newbie rank, I checked your post history some of them deserve merits but unfortunately, they're unnoticed
I also looked at his profile from the first post to the last post but unfortunately most of his posts are off topic and more posts length one line .

https://i.imgur.com/t253Alb.jpg

https://ninjastic.space/user/Sayakaaja

Now the main thing is that you should be active in the forum regularly, share good information, give constructive posts regularly.  Then you can change your rank in future days.  If your constructive post doesn't get merit then you can earn merit by sharing your posts in below threads.

Re: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.msg49051692#msg49051692)
[FUN][In Merit] Post Count Down To Your Next Rank Here. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405705.msg60538691#msg60538691)
[Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.msg60895527#msg60895527)


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: DeathAngel on December 31, 2022, 11:08:09 AM
Don’t chase merit, if you make good, constructive, helpful posts you will receive merit. Don’t obsess about it though because the people who do that get desperate & end up less likely to receive merit.

Just be a good, honest, helpful member of the community here & you’ll get merit.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Daniel91 on December 31, 2022, 11:38:09 AM
OP, as far as I can see, you usually write posts in off-topic and the Politics and Society sections of the forum.
These aren't exactly parts of the forum where you can get a lot of credit due to the low quality of the discussion.
If you really want to progress on this forum and become a respected member, then you have to learn more about crypto and start writing in crypto forum topics.
Also, you have to learn to write better quality posts, which comes with time and experience.
You can't claim merits, you get it based on your effort and work on this forum.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Frankolala on December 31, 2022, 02:36:17 PM
Merit goes with ranking up, try to learn more about bitcoin either from the forum or from google,this will help you to contribute more on bitcoin discussion and beginners and help,this forum was found mainly for bitcoin discussion.

Your contributions on these two board can earn you some good merits based on the knowledge you shared with people on those boards. Make quality post and try to be real,before you know it,the merits will be coming after you .There are also some forum activities which if you participate,you can also earn some merits.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Shamm on December 31, 2022, 02:59:21 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

Merit and activity is most important thing if you need to rank up. Like what Despario gives you the link above, all you need to know about how to rank up is already there, all you need is to read and understand it. Also you can not earn merit if you don't create a good post cause if you post a spam reply or low quality post then it's hard to ea merit. As we all know that merit source or all user here in in forum finds a good and quality reply to give a merits.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Awaklara on December 31, 2022, 03:12:06 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
Of course, those who don't get Merit will never rank up. even though they made 1k posts on the forum.
We've been told a lot about the rules, and a few threads you should probably read first.

If you think your post is of good quality but seems to be being ignored by other users, sure, there's a thread for you to request a review.
Merit shouldn't be difficult to obtain. many new members have proven it. they rank up very quickly.

OP, now you get 2 Merits, that's pretty good. now you are a Jr. member and will soon reach Member rank. but it's up to you, want to try, or will remain in your seat.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: DdmrDdmr on December 31, 2022, 04:21:18 PM
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Pretty much explained by the above posts, being this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432462.msg61522187#msg61522187) particularly insightful into your specific case. Take it constructively, but many merited posts are not generated by a quick thought, but rather require the author to elaborate a bit more based on either his already pre-acquired knowledge, or cross-referencing reading different sources on a matter, in order to become more fluent in it. Generally speaking, conversations taking place in off-topic are not going to be of much interest, and subsequently, won’t postulate to obtaining merits.

Fun fact: You can, in fact, be re-ranked, though that is more of an anecdote, and takes place when posts are deleted by one or other party, to the point of losing Activity:
https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/De-ranked?:language=es-ES&:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: SmartCharpa on December 31, 2022, 05:10:49 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

I'm also newbie, as a beginner so if you want to rank up and earn merits, you need to contribute and make quality posts to show that you're active. When you put in the effort to produce quality posts, you'll start earning merit for your contributions to the forum, and as soon as you do, you'll rank higher than you think.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Eureka_07 on December 31, 2022, 05:18:52 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
The higher the rank, the more merits you need. Also you need minimum number of activities and merits to attain each rank... So, merit is not just the thing that you need for ranking up.
You can have maximum of 14 activities every two (2) weeks (please correct me if I'm wrong), meaning if you have more than 15 posts on that time frame, only 14 will be added to your activity count. This is also the reason that most users here has more post count than activity count.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: akuntester1 on December 31, 2022, 05:25:27 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

I hope you always read posts or threads about the rules that are made and that must be obeyed in this forum, friends.
So that you know better and contribute more properly and correctly in this forum.
Rank increase will not occur if we do not have enough merit.
Many have included threads about new users and rules on this forum.
I hope you can read it so that your contribution in this forum is more focused and better.
Keep up the enthusiasm to provide quality posts and contributions, bro.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Wiwo on December 31, 2022, 09:41:20 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit.

please explain, and thank you
Just as other have mentioned you need both forum activities and merits to rank up in the current forum ranking system, your merits must meet up with your fun activities requirements and merit are awarded by other members of the forum for your quality contributions, but from activities come organically from you posting on the forum your activity is generated automatically in every two-week cycle 14 activities in one activities cycle will be awarded base on your posts counts.

18 June 2013 to 23 January 2018 requires activity with Bitcoin forum posts.  Brand New requires 0 posts 0 activities, Newbie 1-28 posts 28 activities, Junior members 30 activities, Members 60 activities, Full members 120 activities, Senior members 240 activities, Hero members 480 activities, Legendary members 960 activities.

Since 24th January 2018, activity as well as merit system has been introduced.  Now it's not just about activity but it has to have merit number.

LDL you did well will you analysis of the forum posts, activities and merit as regards to forum ranking, But it looks like you have missed up some points in your analyses and the point in bolded looks to be wrong, especially where you mention that forum activity and merits were introduced on 24th January 2018. This is false and to the best of my knowledge of on this thread, forum activities have been in existence before 2018 and then forum activities are what determined a user rank until January 2018  when the merit system was introduced.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: LDL on January 01, 2023, 05:19:17 AM
LDL you did well will you analysis of the forum posts, activities and merit as regards to forum ranking, But it looks like you have missed up some points in your analyses and the point in bolded looks to be wrong, especially where you mention that forum activity and merits were introduced on 24th January 2018. This is false and to the best of my knowledge of on this thread, forum activities have been in existence before 2018 and then forum activities are what determined a user rank until January 2018  when the merit system was introduced.
Thanks @Wiwo
Maybe there is a mistake in my writing or speaking but now I tried to present myself with a little correction.  If there is a mistake in this, then I will be very happy if you correct the mistake by personal message later.

22 Nov 2009- 17 June 2013
Forum started its journey+ Those time ranked automatically changed without Activity.

Here Satoshi's announcement.
Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28)

Post link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28

18 June2013- 23 January 2018
Ranked changed post+ activity ( 14 days duration activity)

Theymos announcement regarding activity
Activity & new membergroup limits (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237597.msg2513302#msg2513302)

Post link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237597.msg2513302#msg2513302

24 January-Today
Ranked changed Posts+ activity+ merits
Theymos announcement regarding merits systems
Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28856522#msg28856522)

post link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28856522#msg28856522


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Woodie on January 01, 2023, 04:24:08 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
Unfortunately without merit you can't rank up and this only happened as a way to fight forum spam and low quality posts that went rampant few years back , but don't sweat it, the merit system is easy to understand using the analogy of how humans need food to grow and that food is in the form of merit here & without it you won't grow...


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Issa56 on January 01, 2023, 04:38:33 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
If you want to rank up on this forum, you have to make quality post, if any member of the forum think your post is useful, then they might merit it. If you check this thread, you will understand the amount of merits required and activities required to attain a particular rank (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0). If you keep on posting, your post count and your activities will keep on increasing but your merit will never increase automatically if anyone did not merit your post.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: _BlackStar on January 01, 2023, 06:16:42 PM
It doesn't like in the past before 2018 where you can rank up if you only have activity, merit is a way to prevent from spammers and low quality post users. So if you don't get any merit, it mean you're a shitposter.
Your conclusion is a bit controversial, but it's true that shitposters won't get merit in most cases. But you know, today's shitposter are smarter than old shitposter who are probably more busy with shitcoin bounty, they tend to have a way to get 1-2 merit from different users in a particular thread.

I also didn't get many merit in November 2022, only about 4 merit from 4 different users. Then am I a shitposter?  :D


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: JoyMarsha on January 01, 2023, 06:59:54 PM
Without merit, one cannot advance in rank.

Your total number of merits indicates the significance and quality of the contributions you have made in this forum and how many of those posts have been recognized by forum members. A good poster and a poor poster can be distinguished from one another using merit. Every member of this forum requires it in order to advance in rank, maintain relevance, and reap the rewards, such as taking part in bitcoin-paying campaigns.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Sayakaaja on January 02, 2023, 02:06:34 AM


I understand your frustration because you have 112 posts and not yet rank up to JR.Member and still in a newbie rank, I checked your post history some of them deserve merits but unfortunately, they're unnoticed
I also looked at his profile from the first post to the last post but unfortunately most of his posts are off topic and more posts length one line .

https://i.imgur.com/t253Alb.jpg

https://ninjastic.space/user/Sayakaaja

Now the main thing is that you should be active in the forum regularly, share good information, give constructive posts regularly.  Then you can change your rank in future days.  If your constructive post doesn't get merit then you can earn merit by sharing your posts in below threads.

Re: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.msg49051692#msg49051692)
[FUN][In Merit] Post Count Down To Your Next Rank Here. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405705.msg60538691#msg60538691)
[Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.msg60895527#msg60895527)

Yes indeed. I post too much off topic, I rarely post anywhere else like economics and bitcoin discussions.

I really don't have enough experience, but yeah I'll try not to post off topic all the time.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: MiliMil on January 02, 2023, 11:02:54 AM
I understand your frustration because you have 112 posts and not yet rank up to JR.Member and still in a newbie rank, I checked your post history some of them deserve merits but unfortunately, they're unnoticed, I merited one of your posts that deserves it and encourage you to keep up creating posts like that, the one I merited, once you get the habit of posting relevant and good posts the merits will come automatically.

I just created my account today after scrolling through these forums for a few months. I am a newbie who doesn't have the intricate knowledge of cryptocurrency so how can I contribute to topics if I have no knowledge on them? I am going to start researching and reading a lot in the next few days and hopefully get merited. Thanks for your suggestion! :)


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: acroman08 on January 02, 2023, 11:13:25 AM
I understand your frustration because you have 112 posts and not yet rank up to JR.Member and still in a newbie rank, I checked your post history some of them deserve merits but unfortunately, they're unnoticed, I merited one of your posts that deserves it and encourage you to keep up creating posts like that, the one I merited, once you get the habit of posting relevant and good posts the merits will come automatically.

I just created my account today after scrolling through these forums for a few months. I am a newbie who doesn't have the intricate knowledge of cryptocurrency so how can I contribute to topics if I have no knowledge on them? I am going to start researching and reading a lot in the next few days and hopefully get merited. Thanks for your suggestion! :)
you don't have to immediately have to contribute to topics. if you have no knowledge on said topics you can either search them up or ask here on the forum. to be honest, if your only reason for reading and learning is to get merit you might get disappointed. not every post gets merited even if it is useful. my advice is to read and learn not because of might get merits when you post but because you are actually curious and wants to learn.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: kamvreto on January 02, 2023, 04:02:55 PM
Posting on bitcoin discussion and beginners may be a good place for you, you can follow the discussion by providing weighted responses and not just one line. if you have limited insight, you can first read about the topic being discussed, then you can respond to what you can respond well to. the more often you do it the more accustomed it will be. You've been on this forum long enough and you already know what to do.
someone will not give you merit if your post does not deserve it. you really have to try. it's not easy to rank up, but if you keep learning you can do it easily.



Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: GigaBit on January 02, 2023, 05:23:47 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

I'm also newbie, as a beginner so if you want to rank up and earn merits, you need to contribute and make quality posts to show that you're active. When you put in the effort to produce quality posts, you'll start earning merit for your contributions to the forum, and as soon as you do, you'll rank higher than you think.
As per the rules enacted from 24th January 2018, a user of the forum must earn adequate merit to achieve the next rank. It is definitely an effective rule that enables forum discussions to be more meaningful. Since the forum is a platform for discussion of different kinds of things with receiving and giving merit against meaning full knowledgeable or informative post, no one can achieve any rank without having it. But if one uses his or her talent it is possible to easily achieve the rank within the specific time frame. We know the clear road map on how a newbie can achieve that top rank. If a newbie wishes, then he or she can gradually move towards the goal.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Fara Chan on January 02, 2023, 05:58:00 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
Yes, of course you have to get merit to change/raise your rank, but you have to meet other requirements besides getting merit, in the form of Activity.

New/Beginner (0 activities, 0 achievements) Member
junior (30 activities, 1 achievement required)
Members ( 60 activities, 10 achievements required)
Full member (120 activities, 100 achievements required)
Senior members (240 activities, 250 achievements required)
Hero members (480 activities, 500 achievements required)
Legendary member (960-1000 activity, 1000 achievement required)

or you can visit the link below
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170032.msg51993801#msg51993801


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: harapan on January 03, 2023, 02:01:19 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
Unfortunately without merit you can't rank up and this only happened as a way to fight forum spam and low quality posts that went rampant few years back , but don't sweat it, the merit system is easy to understand using the analogy of how humans need food to grow and that food is in the form of merit here & without it you won't grow...

The Merit system improved the forum to a large level according to old timers here

It was a means to help fight spamming and bounty hunting machines who post all for the sake of earnings.

All that really matters now is how well you cintrubute to the forum and make your post educative fir others to learn. You need merit and activity to get higher and higher. But becoming a better poster and improvement in on self is all that mean now


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Shamm on January 03, 2023, 05:00:20 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
Yes, of course you have to get merit to change/raise your rank, but you have to meet other requirements besides getting merit, in the form of Activity.

New/Beginner (0 activities, 0 achievements) Member
junior (30 activities, 1 achievement required)
Members ( 60 activities, 10 achievements required)
Full member (120 activities, 100 achievements required)
Senior members (240 activities, 250 achievements required)
Hero members (480 activities, 500 achievements required)
Legendary member (960-1000 activity, 1000 achievement required)

or you can visit the link below
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170032.msg51993801#msg51993801

Yes absolutely correct mate not just merit can take you to a high rank but Activity as well. Yes merits is very useful for everyone of here in order to to see ourselves if we are doing great or not because once the other user gaves you merits.  It because they will like your post or they learn something from your topics. And lastly like what other said above the moderator implemented the merit system in order to prevent spam and low quality post.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on January 03, 2023, 09:13:19 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
This has obviously explained that you haven't read through the rules and the sticky notes on each and every board-- including this one....no you haven't, if you have then you won't be asking a question like this.
Merit is very important to achieve a rank in here, AFAIK... You've been seeing alot of peeps with different merit count; that's not just fancied anyways, it's really something anyone should get if you must rank up in here. It's been happening way back; when peeps only needed few or much activity ratio to rank up, it's pretty different now as everyone new in here -- after the merit system had to pass through the same process... Earning merit is a different ball game entirely.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Coyster on January 03, 2023, 09:32:31 PM
I just created my account today after scrolling through these forums for a few months. I am a newbie who doesn't have the intricate knowledge of cryptocurrency so how can I contribute to topics if I have no knowledge on them? I am going to start researching and reading a lot in the next few days and hopefully get merited. Thanks for your suggestion! :)
Mind you too that earning merits do not come quite fast for most users, though there are some exceptional users that have Bitcoin/crypto/any unique knowledge even before they ever became a user on this forum, thus earning merits could be easier for such users even in their early days in their forum, but the thing is that most users aren't like that, that is why it is usually a slow and interesting process for most.

Having said that, since you are a newbie don't forget to take your time to learn, if you do not have knowledge to contribute to topics now, then don't, use this time to garner that essential knowledge. You also don't have to hope to get merited, or to post solely to get merited, just garner knowledge and contribute to the forum because you want to discuss/communicate and you'd definitely get merits.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: _BlackStar on January 03, 2023, 09:56:42 PM
This has obviously explained that you haven't read through the rules and the sticky notes on each and every board-- including this one....no you haven't, if you have then you won't be asking a question like this.
It is a fact that a lack of reading habits will lead one to get lost even if it is quite clearly sticky on the main page. OP didn't read or could have easily dismissed it, but now he has nice addition to how to use the forum.

Merit doesn't come suddenly without some extra effort put into making quality posts. Not a single newbie after the implementation of this merit system will rank up if they don't care about the quality of the posts [nothing is magical] unless some of their friends support their futile efforts. But by reading a lot, understanding the rules and getting good idea for post, they will have a good chance of getting what they want. OP should realize that the merit system is the most successful way of preventing rank up spammers, and that's how it is.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: qwertyup23 on January 03, 2023, 11:02:17 PM
I understand your frustration because you have 112 posts and not yet rank up to JR.Member and still in a newbie rank, I checked your post history some of them deserve merits but unfortunately, they're unnoticed, I merited one of your posts that deserves it and encourage you to keep up creating posts like that, the one I merited, once you get the habit of posting relevant and good posts the merits will come automatically.

I just created my account today after scrolling through these forums for a few months. I am a newbie who doesn't have the intricate knowledge of cryptocurrency so how can I contribute to topics if I have no knowledge on them? I am going to start researching and reading a lot in the next few days and hopefully get merited. Thanks for your suggestion! :)

Just like any high-forum rankers, everyone started as a newbie and at the bottom. Even if you do not know much about the cryptocurrency world, then it is still possible for you to climb your way but it does require patience. Instead of focusing on the mindset of ranking up, focus on gaining knowledge and learning from the threads here. As soon as you start understanding the basics and fundamentals, you have now the capacity to contribute slowly and eventually get merits in the forum.

I do agree that even some high rankers are having difficulty gaining merits in the process but at the end of the day, not everything in this forum revolve around merits!


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: romeitaly on January 04, 2023, 01:47:11 AM
Yes.

You can read in this thread where you must have both activity and merit if you want to rank up Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0).

It doesn't like in the past before 2018 where you can rank up if you only have activity, merit is a way to prevent from spammers and low quality post users. So if you don't get any merit, it mean you're a shitposter.

Having merit helps to monitor the users if they post appropriate and useful posts. Earning a merit also determines how good you are and your growth in the community as time passes by. Always post appropriate and useful for better rewards.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Awaklara on January 04, 2023, 04:39:16 AM

Having merit helps to monitor the users if they post appropriate and useful posts. Earning a merit also determines how good you are and your growth in the community as time passes by. Always post appropriate and useful for better rewards.
Why monitor users who earn Merit?
Merit is not a benchmark to judge members who are active in forums with good and useful content or posts.
OP focus, Merit to rank up. no Merit then there will be no rank up. Op already received multiple thread inputs for Merit. and now we just have to see how he progresses with so many suggestions.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Razmirraz on January 04, 2023, 05:45:41 AM
Everything is clear after you get the first merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5425983.msg61477158#msg61477158) that takes you to rank Jr. members. Don't put merit as your main goal, start dedicating yourself to forums with quality posts. Merit will come by itself without you expecting that you can be promoted to a higher rank when the requirements for ranking up are met.
The question above has been thrown in several discussions, the answer remains the same. Some users have provided links that may lead to requirements for ranking up. Study everything that has been written there and use it as a trigger for yourself to make it easier for you to reach new ranks.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: joniboini on January 04, 2023, 12:30:30 PM
Merit is not a benchmark to judge members who are active in forums with good and useful content or posts.
While merit is not always an objective metric to judge whether someone is posting useful and interesting content, it is definitely a good one to filter out spammer. Like it or not, if we try to compare members with a 10 earned merit and 100 earned merit over the span of 120 days, we'll likely see the later post more interesting post.

I think rome is trying to post it from the POV of a campaign manager since they need to choose the best poster for their campaign. If you're just a regular user then there is obviously no incentive to 'monitor' users. That being said, we have multiple tools to check the merit history for each member, so there is obviously a demand for something like that. OP can also follow them if he wants to 'learn' how to make a post that is interesting if his goal is to rank up and participate in an engaging forum discussion.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on January 04, 2023, 09:21:10 PM
There's truth to the fact that without merit, the ranking won't go up. Inasmuch as I try to contribute my quota, it is rather intriguing to see how the merit and ranking system works.
I have come to observe however that each post created, if not drafted in the proper manner with links, sources and references inclusive, won't earn merits, instead it gets deleted or moved to a more appropriate board. Also, places to post which assures merit exist, but am still to explore. 
In all, it only still proves that earning or getting merits is the sure way to rank up. Prove me wrong otherwise.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Bhig Daddy on January 04, 2023, 10:49:33 PM
As per the necessities to rank up, you could use some merit with a different range of it. See other members cited for the necessity. Since you are still a newbie, why not spend some time learning from others here and trying to observe how they get merit? We came from the newbie rank too and had difficulty getting merit, but sooner or later when you did know how does the merit get, you can get yours too. Observe first; don't get under pressure once you think you can share information, even though it may Don't muster the courage to learn due to the merit system.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Uruhara on January 05, 2023, 12:14:07 AM
What must be done to be able to quickly rise in rank is motivation and inspiration that will encourage our enthusiasm to learn more and add to knowledge and also work harder.
And when our knowledge has increased, making quality writing is easy. and what makes us difficult in making quality writing is because of the limited knowledge we have.


i recently read an interesting topic and it has grown my motivation in 2023. this is the topic of Mr/Mrs @fillippone. (Ranking up is possible! 2900 Merits earned in less than 12 months!My 11 Hints! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098333)). Please visit and find a guide from impressive experience on the topic to create quality writing. i just read it. and it regenerates my enthusiasm to add insight and learn more.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on January 09, 2023, 06:32:04 AM
...and to earn a merits will be determined by a quality post, with quality post you can be able to earn merit.
This is the part where I disagree with many a user here because I see a lot of shitposts that get merited. Meriting posts isn't wholly a quality thing but subjective. It depends on the judgment and mood of whoever is sending the merit. Again, we can be right to say that certain users find it appealing to merit certain users more than others. The reason is best known to themselves. So, don't conclude that everyone who regularly gets merited are all quality posters.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: DdmrDdmr on January 09, 2023, 09:56:27 AM
Just to get a quick idea of the number of accounts that have managed to Rank-up here since the Merit System was introduced in January 2018, this is the overall view:
See: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/ddmrddmr/viz/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/Ranked-up

Looking at the above data, the core difficulty resides in moving past the lower two ranks, where numbers tend to get pretty thin.


If we now delimit the view to accounts created since 01/01/2020, this is what things look like:
See: https://public.tableau.com/shared/N8M6S93P5?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

A quick read of the above denotes yet again that mid-to-high ranks are not easy to obtain, yet doable for those that either have or acquire a fair share of knowledge and writing capabilities, which I presume are the core factors alongside time.


<…> this is the topic of Mr/Mrs @fillippone <…>
I guess he’s a Mr. …  in accordance to what this image of his wrist seems to suggest:
See:  #meritislife: how to be notified on a smartband of merits and mentions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229697).


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on January 09, 2023, 02:15:27 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
Merit is the system that's behind everything concerning the growth of everyone in the community, so i believe that anyone that doesn't have merit or earn merit the limitations of it's growth will remain constant, so that is the reason why some people do constantly ensure that they earn merit, while when constantly posting your activities will continue to increase and merits will still remain in one particular point. So merit determine anyone growth in the forum.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Razmirraz on January 09, 2023, 02:46:03 PM
and what makes us difficult in making quality writing is because of the limited knowledge we have.
Limitations of knowledge can be overcome as long as there is a desire to develop, post quality is needed to increase the number of merits. Merit will be spent on worthy posts, not ones you like. The distribution of merit every day is very large, the forum also has several service threads available to report posts that get merited.
Someone will develop depending on his intention join here, there are those who want to seek knowledge and there are also those who seek money. Prioritize Knowledge, money will be earned when you already understand how the forum works.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: YOSHIE on January 09, 2023, 02:46:35 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
Have you ever been on an airplane, of course you have seen a plane, how big is the plane, how sophisticated is the plane, still, what is mentioned and talked about is the 'pilot' of the plane flying and circling in the air, it's all about the skill and prowess of the pilot.

A few percent maybe you already understand and know what the ranking requirements and merits are from other members who tell you in this thread.
Bottom line: your account is not the main thing, what people want to talk about and see, namely: your skills and knowledge here, if you have extensive knowledge, whether it's about mining, technical, legal, service, Bitcoin and so on related to other information, you are highly respected and valued here, rewards are none other than the merits of other users, automatically your rank can fly freely as high as possible.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Hyphen(-) on January 09, 2023, 02:51:14 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
Merits and activity are required for advancement in this wonderful forum. Although merit is not a test or outcome of seriousness or intelligence in the forum, it is a reward for contributions made to the forum.

We earn merit from our fellow forum users, and you can give merit if you find a post worthy of merit, which means it is a quality post that speaks a lot about Bitcoin and explains or elaborates on a solution to a specific challenge or question in the forum.

If you have two merits, you will always have one sendable merit to send out, and your own merit will be unaffected.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on January 09, 2023, 03:12:12 PM
...and to earn a merits will be determined by a quality post, with quality post you can be able to earn merit.
This is the part where I disagree with many a user here because I see a lot of shitposts that get merited. Meriting posts isn't wholly a quality thing but subjective. It depends on the judgment and mood of whoever is sending the merit. Again, we can be right to say that certain users find it appealing to merit certain users more than others. The reason is best known to themselves. So, don't conclude that everyone who regularly gets merited are all quality posters.
In normal circumstances and the procedures of merit system, merit is only given to someone whom you find it's response worthy to be emulate, so therefore i believe those people who is meriting worthless post or shitpost, cross examine them one after the other you will notice that they are into merit sharing, because no potential forum member will like to give a shitposter or worthless post that have no meaning or not meaningful a merit, either they know each other or it from it's tribe, the methods of giving out merit need to be review because many people is abusing merit system.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on January 09, 2023, 03:22:40 PM
~snipped~
...so therefore i believe those people who is meriting worthless post or shitpost, cross examine them one after the other you will notice that they are into merit sharing, because no potential forum member will like to give a shitposter or worthless post that have no meaning or not meaningful a merit, either they know each other or it from it's tribe, the methods of giving out merit need to be review because many people is abusing merit system.
You now get the point I'm trying to drive in. So, when this happens we can't say it's because the merited posts have quality. Even, those who give the merit will claim the posts they merited are quality posts. This is why I continue to say it's subjective. Except you've a documented case of merit trading against a user(s), it's really not possible to dictate to them what posts to merit. Even if the merit system is reviewed today as you're calling for it, there will still be other loopholes to exploit. No system of the world is ever perfect.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: nurilham on January 09, 2023, 09:16:30 PM
Having merit helps to monitor the users if they post appropriate and useful posts.
Who monitors users' posts?
I never saw any statements that admins or moderators monitor bitcointalk users' posts through their merits.
Anyway, any member can make appropriate or useful posts, even the members who have 0 merits (newbies).

Earning a merit also determines how good you are and your growth in the community as time passes by.
Earning merits is good, it indicates that people appreciate our posts. But not every earned merit indicates the quality of posts, people give merit sometimes quite subjective. Each member also has their own standard about an appropriate post to give merits. So, earning merits doesn't always mean the quality of a member, but earning merit should be a part of someone's account rank growth. No change in account level (rank) without earned merits.



Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: fillippone on January 19, 2023, 06:31:47 PM

<…> this is the topic of Mr/Mrs @fillippone <…>
I guess he’s a Mr. …  in accordance to what this image of his wrist seems to suggest:
See:  #meritislife: how to be notified on a smartband of merits and mentions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229697).


You never know.

Italian girls have strange habits about body hairs. In addition to that, I would like to win “Miss Bitcointalk” award next year.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: martyns on January 23, 2023, 03:19:29 AM
We all know how getting merit in bitcointalk is hard to attain,we all know that if your post does not qualify or worth merit,you won't get it,the reason is because merit is what ranks you up to the next level.Merit is what makes one in the forum feel he is doing well or making quality posts in the forum too.
And one thing I have noticed about this forum is,when you Concentrate on getting merit,you won't see it,the only thing one should concentrate on is making quality posts,post that will make someone feel like sending you merit,just forget about the merit,it will definitely come as long as your post is of quality.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Nobility17 on January 23, 2023, 07:50:09 AM
Yes.

You can read in this thread where you must have both activity and merit if you want to rank up Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0).

It doesn't like in the past before 2018 where you can rank up if you only have activity, merit is a way to prevent from spammers and low quality post users. So if you don't get any merit, it mean you're a shitposter.
Your last words are harsh on newbies, it's not a crime that we're new to the forum or haven't made merit convincing posts. Definitely with time merits will come and we'll move up the ladder. All the same no hard feelings.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: armanda90 on January 23, 2023, 10:46:58 AM
Consistency making good post will easy to earn merit and increase up to your level account depend with activities added, I don't think problem with merit right now due many user have push up their account level from Newbie until become Legendary. New rule have adopted last several years with account level up not depending with how many activities having but also have each merit to get each level up.

Have been rule in Bitcointalk and need allow what adopted, I don't think any one here not happy and complaint about merit system for pushing up account to higher level.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Luzin on January 23, 2023, 11:31:35 AM
I would like to win “Miss Bitcointalk” award next year.

Yes, of course the opportunity is wide open. You have to be excited and of course you inspire me and other friends because you are one of the best members in acquiring Merits.

Consistency making good post will easy to earn merit and increase up to your level account depend with activities added, I don't think problem with merit right now due many user have push up their account level from Newbie until become Legendary. New rule have adopted last several years with account level up not depending with how many activities having but also have each merit to get each level up.

Have been rule in Bitcointalk and need allow what adopted, I don't think any one here not happy and complaint about merit system for pushing up account to higher level.

Maybe for some people it happens. They don't want to develop and get merit from airdrop alone. There seems to be some of the same as that. Some people may also quit, and be inactive because they feel inadequate.
Some do get Merit easily, because indeed his post is very useful. But some people may need to put a lot of effort into merit (like me). Actually merit makes me addicted to trying to make useful posts. It also makes this forum even better at discussing.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Renampun on January 23, 2023, 12:17:18 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

Hi, I'm sure you are satisfied with the answers you got from other members regarding your question and it's 100% true that your account won't rank up if you don't get 'merits', so you have to work hard to improve your account reputation and your post quality .

...
You can read in this thread where you must have both activity and merit if you want to rank up Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0).

It doesn't like in the past before 2018 where you can rank up if you only have activity, merit is a way to prevent from spammers and low quality post users. So if you don't get any merit, it mean you're a shitposter.
Your last words are harsh on newbies, it's not a crime that we're new to the forum or haven't made merit convincing posts. Definitely with time merits will come and we'll move up the ladder. All the same no hard feelings.

I think you don't need to get carried emotion away with the words made by despairo, his presentation looks harsh but in my opinion, it's good because he conveyed it firmly and clearly, good luck to you.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Sakanwa on January 23, 2023, 10:12:55 PM
Well I was likely thinking to ask this someday but well I realized that if we been newbies want to rank up we need to be active and also post quality things that will bring merit to you,on like me I don't have merits and still praying to have it as well.
You need to take your time and try to post a quality stuff I guess that can lead to your merit too.
I asked a friend that introduce me to Bitcoin talk and after that he do receive merit most days and his rank has grown high as well so I was wondering so he told me I need to make a quality post then I can get merit and ever since then I have been trying to work on my post so as to get merit and to rank up to the next one too.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: letteredhub on January 25, 2023, 08:29:15 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
From what I observe merit is just a way of applauding or publicly appreciating user for a quality thread or comment that meets a demand or a need. The merit is a growth factor that's comes through our comments and posts . And Yes our growth in ranks depends on it but not our growth in knowledge we acquire from the forum about crypto. So it all depends on what you're looking for here that you will then put your focus on.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: martyns on January 26, 2023, 06:26:27 PM
Consistency making good post will easy to earn merit and increase up to your level account depend with activities added, I don't think problem with merit right now due many user have push up their account level from Newbie until become Legendary. New rule have adopted last several years with account level up not depending with how many activities having but also have each merit to get each level up.

Have been rule in Bitcointalk and need allow what adopted, I don't think any one here not happy and complaint about merit system for pushing up account to higher level.
Most person's know that merit comes as a result of quality post,but to those newbies who just got started and are feeling frustrated that they've stayed here for a long period of time and the merit is not coming,I want to let them know that the merits are not coming because their mind is set on getting merit.The merits will come when they choose to improve in the kind of posts they make.
You might not have problem with the merit system,but some of the newbies may,and only improving in their post will make them get that merit.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Sakanwa on January 27, 2023, 11:15:02 PM
Getting of merit is actually an act of making good post and quality topic too, it is really awful me telling you how and I don't have alot if merit I guess am not that notice for not but I guess I will and am as well trying to posting quality post too but yet I still have to I prove me self so I can get alot of merit with my quality post, so if you want to get merit you need to keep out your best so you can get it.
You need to be creative and smart to topic you come across here.
For you to get merit you to study what you about to discuss on,the topic you are about to reply or contribute to you have to study it and understand what it all about before getting to write on them.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Emitdama on January 28, 2023, 01:38:40 PM
From what I observe merit is just a way of applauding or publicly appreciating user for a quality thread or comment that meets a demand or a need. The merit is a growth factor that's comes through our comments and posts . And Yes our growth in ranks depends on it but not our growth in knowledge we acquire from the forum about crypto.
Your observation is not wrong. Constructive and quality interactions with this community are appreciated by merits and this system was introduced to give spammers and useless posters a hard time to rank up and to enjoy privileges like reorganization in this community and slot in signature campaign.

For you to get merit you to study what you about to discuss on,the topic you are about to reply or contribute to you have to study it and understand what it all about before getting to write on them.
It got no differences from writing constructive posts ;D. But, being a good poster alone not enough but you need to be a good contributor to this community in some unique way.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: pawanjain on January 28, 2023, 02:34:00 PM
Yes.

You can read in this thread where you must have both activity and merit if you want to rank up Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0).

It doesn't like in the past before 2018 where you can rank up if you only have activity, merit is a way to prevent from spammers and low quality post users. So if you don't get any merit, it mean you're a shitposter.

This is not true. Many sections have Merit-sources who do not hand out merits properly IMO. Just learn, read, and post what you can. Merits come with Knowledge and trust. ;)

Exactly. Just because one does not have enough merits doesn't necessarily mean he is a shit poster.
There are boards in this forum where there are not enough merit sources and not enough engagement.
Also, different people have different perspective and while one may like a post the other might not.
There can be reasons why a good post might not get any merit at all.
But I would say that we should make posts to get and give knowledge and focus less on the merits.
If a person will run behind merits then he will find it even harder to get them.
Just focus on the tech and keep making knowledgeable posts will easily get you enough merits to rank up.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: suzanne5223 on January 29, 2023, 01:00:31 AM
From what I observe merit is just a way of applauding or publicly appreciating user for a quality thread or comment that meets a demand or a need. The merit is a growth factor that's comes through our comments and posts . And Yes our growth in ranks depends on it but not our growth in knowledge we acquire from the forum about crypto.
Your observation is not wrong. Constructive and quality interactions with this community are appreciated by merits and this system was introduced to give spammers and useless posters a hard time to rank up and to enjoy privileges like reorganization in this community and slot in signature campaign.
You both make a valid point and I wonder why Emitdama said letteredhub because you're actually on the same page. However, getting merit is not always about making a constructive post cause it can be earned through a good contribution that helps others and it also comes through luck at some point because there is a huge constructive post that didn't get any merit.


For you to get merit you to study what you about to discuss on,the topic you are about to reply or contribute to you have to study it and understand what it all about before getting to write on them.
It got no differences from writing constructive posts ;D. But, being a good poster alone not enough but you need to be a good contributor to this community in some unique way.
Yes, being a good contributor to the community that's focused on by merit sources.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on January 30, 2023, 08:16:49 PM
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Perhaps a bit more light should be shed on other unique ways one can contribute to rank up without merit concerns as this. I understand OP's tone right now and as true as it sounds, one has to really give thoughts and do proper research with good presentation to actually attract any merit from the sources they come from. I guess OP already knows this, but what needs to be stressed on is how strict the matter is.
One just has one choice left, sharpen up your writing and research on tech skill. This is a note to myself also.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: KingsDen on January 31, 2023, 01:25:43 PM
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Perhaps a bit more light should be shed on other unique ways one can contribute to rank up without merit concerns as this.

There is no unique ways to earn merits or rank up without being merit conscious. As a lower ranked member, you will get merited when you provide quality posts and you will produce quality posts when you are merit conscious. It is not bad to be merit conscious, what is bad is begging for merits.
Earn your merits in whatever legitimate way you want and don't listen to the people that propagates the merit fishing philosophy.
You cannot rank up without merits, so make posts that will attract merits even if they have to call it merit fishing. If you sleep, your account will sleep also.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Qiubell5 on February 01, 2023, 01:45:56 PM
yes, it is very clear that you will not be able to rank up before you have merit first. make posts that are useful for everyone, and can keep everyone motivated.

we have much more to learn, for you and me.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Z390 on February 02, 2023, 09:36:56 AM
Merit is the last thing to be serious about on this forum, this could get you distracted and you can start doing things wrongfully, be yourself and post what you believe it's right and helpful for other members, slow and steady always win the race, sooner or later merits will find it's way to you. Create topics about helpful tips and engage in different discussions, in every discussion always drop something reasonable, that's all.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: m2017 on February 02, 2023, 02:01:18 PM
To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you
Yes, this is exactly the case, and my account is an example of this. I have already fulfilled the activity norms for rank increase a long time ago, but the lack of merit doesn't allow me to get the next one. In general, each account has 2 important parameters, without which it is impossible to increase. This is activity and merit. If the first accumulates by itself after the expiration of time (and a sufficient number of posts), then the second must be deserved. Merits are distributed by other users if they consider your posts worthy of it. So, try and merit will not keep you waiting long.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Obari on February 03, 2023, 05:20:41 AM
I'm sure you know this
And the answer is yes as the merits are strictly needed for you to rank up accompanied with your activity counts.
It might seem difficult at some points to earn merits but I'm sure the moment you start flowing with the tides, the merits starts flowing in and there are also some threads tht help people with merits for some good lost they've made without getting any merits on them and those members who give out such merits are known as merits source and they are in charge of helping distribute merits to forum members without enough merits.


Title: Re: If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?
Post by: Saisher on February 03, 2023, 08:20:02 AM
If you're not going to participate in a signature campaign and you just want to casually engage in discussion merits and ranking will not matter to you, but if you want to target higher ranks so you can have authority and you want to be part of bounty campaigns, you will find ways to get merits, some members are freely giving merits all you have to do is to be more concern on what to post and how to post.
There are merit threads that you have to check to qualify your post to gain merits.