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By making a living, I mean making four or five figures after Profit - Loss.

If yes, then which bookmaker?

I am looking for bookmakers who doesn't create problems when you win. If you have been consistently placing bets & having no issues on withdrawal, stake amount, cash out or human or machine errors, then please share your experience with the bookmaker(s).

PS or BF types do not support where I am located. Also, I am not looking for their alternatives or clones or white hats.

Expecting reply from REAL punters.

Thank you.

Duelbits is one of the bookmaker that always pay there user no matter how huge is there profit as long as you are not involved in syndicate that betting only with fixed matches and questionable games. You will have no problem on this casino if you are winning big and sometimes losses with organic bets.

Bookmaker itself detects the betting pattern of all there players and have an eye to those consistently winning with same bets. This is the common concerns and issue posted here against bookmaker but this is not a problem if you are playing without any involvement on this shady activities.


Others will suggest Sportsbet, Cloudbet and Fortunejack which are good too considering how long they are operating with good reputation here.

For future use

Read gambling site ToS and know their rules. Abide to the rules.

If requesting for KYC, do it before depositing to the gambling site and start to gamble with small amount to know how trustworthy the gambling site is.

But gambling is no for making a living, it is for fun. If you do not want to lose and have a frustrating life, do not think of gambling that way.

For the last few months, I have been playing sports bets in Betnomi and Stake, and the first one has better odds or multipliers, but sometimes the withdrawal are slow.

Both casinos have a VIP system where you can get prizes each time you hit a new lvl, and for that, you have to wager. But since you want to bet big and win big then you will not have any problem growing your account.

If you bet on different sports from basketball, and soccer to combat sports, you may be able to make it with the FIFA games on one bookmaker. That's a lot to do for one man though. You would be a good sports analyst for that matter.

You will notice about some sports gamblers here is that they stick to one sport alone. Sometimes sports events happen every weekend only. Betting with huge amounts is also the way to profit 4-5 figures.

If you looking for a casino without a problem - especially on "Sport Betting" you cannot find a single one. There always has some case for "Sportbet" user, because compared to "Casino" games you can have more win chances on "Sportbet" rather than the "Casino game. Advantage player is always being restricted by some casino & also there has some cheating scheme in "Sportbet" like Arbitrage Odds or Fixed Match (I found this on "Stake") while there has some fixed match in "Tennis Match".

Also comparison problem between "Sportbetting & Casino Games", by my experience in forum for around 3 years. Most of user who have a problem is always on "sportbetting" user, so that's the reason I talk like this. IMO, If people bet in big match not some random/uknown match you could be not getting problems at all (but, that's just my speculation.

Betting on multiple sport can be tiring or time consuming but even if we just stick only on one sports, we can still be able to make a fortune as long as we master that sport. This is the same when I bet on a casino, I also stick with one game even though the casino that I am playing with have a good library of games. In gambling, there is a thing called odds.

Odds can determine if how much we will win and can also tell the difficulty of the game. High odd is something that is unlikely but we can be able to gamble small amounts on it and then expect that our winning will be huge as long as we get lucky to hit it of course. It should be called parlays on sports betting.

To answer your question- I think not a lot of people bet on sports to make a living, only a very few of them do. However, it's worth mentioning that there are a lot of tipster on soccer where someone can buy credits and use them to buy match result from tipsters.
Personally, I do it for fun, to spend little time. But I'm not in loss. If I check overall, I'm pretty sure I'm in profit.
Most of the times, I play in stake, that's best I think considering all other aspects.

Although I've heard of people making a living off sports betting, I've never actually seen one. People who I have seen routinely make a lot of money from sports betting do not regard it as income and even have other interests besides it. In fact, a person I know who wagers at least twice a week uses the money from his bets to invest in cryptocurrencies before purchasing real estate with the money he makes from the cryptocurrencies.

I don't think that any particular bookmaker is the one that can provide you with earnings from sports betting. the main thing is that you would use proven and reliable bookmakers in relation to payments, and not those that deceive players like 1xb..

For me, it's either Sportbet.io or Stake.com as this are the two leading as sports casino amongst gamblers here.

As for the second question on whether someone here makes a living through sports betting? I'm not sure about that, maybe there are, but if I'm going to bet, the way I see it, majority of the gamblers here bet to have some fun on their favorite sports and not necessarily wanted to make a living out of it. Or bring food in the table for their family based on their gambling because it is going to be very hard, in my opinion.

When I was young I heard about stories of one person in our neighborhood who says to have been making a living through gambling and has brought his kids to finished college.

Not sure though if this is true or not because again, I just heard it when this guy are having sort of a drinking spree when they won on gambling. So I can't say for certain, because if you have to look at gambling, it's either a hit or miss. So it's really better to have a regular job as your living instead of relying to gambling as a means to an end.

5 figures in USD or 5 figures in other currencies?

I do bet every day but I won't say I am part of that "making a living" in sports betting. I won't even try it. I am just having fun at a good amount while having some good profits too. It's not a job for me.
Doing it at one of the reputable sports bookies in the industry, Stake.com.
Never had a problem once, withdrawals and deposits are fast so I don't know how good their customer support is yet because I had never experienced an issue.

I've got a real-life friend who's not from this forum but also has cryptos and tried living day-to-day with crypto gambling. I've seen him first use stake.com.
But just like the mentioned casino, Duelbits is also known and a good place for those gamblers that plan to look for a casino to stay in. Just as the other reputable bookies these days, it's one of them that has become popular together with the others. Other than that, explore through the Gambling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0) section and you'll get to see other options that you may want to examine.

You can choose a bookmaker on this forum such as Duelbits, Stake, Sportsbet, and so on and make sure it is a bookmaker that other members have recommended.
As long as you can find the right bookmakers, you can follow their rules, not try to abuse them, and maybe do KYC so you won't have any problems and can place sports bets safely and comfortably.
I used Duelbits, especially during yesterday's World Cup because it was a good moment to earn some extra cash ;D
But I haven't been able to earn an income from gambling, casino games or sports betting because I realized it is very difficult for me and I prefer to look for other ways to make money.

in my opinion it is not realistic to live on games of chance, honestly I think it is a great risk to live on games of chance mainly because games of chance do not give guaranteed profit, let's take a more realistic example: let's imagine that you rent a house to live alone, after that you hire an employee to cook and clean the house, at the end of the month you will have to pay rent, water and electricity bills and the employee's salary. so every month you will have to place bets under pressure and if you start to lose a lot your bankroll will be reduced and with that you will also have to start paying bills with your bankroll money, of course you can argue that if you place bets of great value so you will have a lot of profit

lotteries so much profit that they can pay the expenses with just a single bet, but the more money you spend on a bet, the greater the risk of losing all your money and staying on the street


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Source: https://www.quora.com/Can-a-guy-make-a-living-through-sports-betting-Is-it-possible

i often bet on sports betting at Stake because their site is more secure and the withdrawal process is never a problem, if asked for a living i think i bet just to double my crypto only so my wallet can store more crypto for my future investment, usually the crypto I get from winning sports betting instead of playing casino

For sure there are and not only in sports betting but gambling in general. Some are just skillful enough to earn decent but there are few who are lucky. On my end, I am quite earning enough to continue playing, fortunately. Sportsbetting on the other hand is gaining more popularity since many leauges are now again operational since the pandemic is at ease. But also, it is one of  the gambling activities which requires less luck and more of analytical skills. A bettor may create assumptions of the winning team and losing team which makes it more entertaining, not to mention that you are actually watching the game of your interest unlike with other gambling activity wherein you'd just play and merely depending on luck.

If you are looking for a bookmaker, there are many in this industry. I am playing at Stake right now and so far I am having a good experience but you may also try primedice and other big names in this industry to lessen your worries on finding legitimate sportsbettinf site.

I am one of those people who love to gamble on sports betting and I gamble on several betting platforms namely Stake.com, Duelbits and Rollbit.
while gambling and betting on sports betting on these three platforms I have never experienced any problems, from withdrawing winnings etc. everything is fine.
but to make a living from betting on sports betting for me is impossible. because basically gambling is done just for fun and if you expect to always win or get a four-digit or five-digit win every day it is very difficult (bookies always win). as long as I bet on sports betting I never thought that far because until now I just bet for fun.
so, for me betting on sports for a living is impossible.

Wow, that's a huge payoff and I must say I'm not in that category of making huge money in gambling as a living.


Again, I'm not a huge whale gambler, I'm just an ordinary player but so far the bookmakers that I have been using is Stake (as in my signature) and pretty much no issues for me and for the majority.

The only one  I can think of making huge some of money is maybe professional poker player because obviously that's their way of living already. Specially tournaments that has pot money of well over $1 million. But it will take a lot of time for this poker player to become a pro.

There are people who making a living from crypto Sports betting, but these people are very few and I suppose are expert bettors.
Well, when I think of making a living from crypto sports betting, I am seeing that the winnings will be able to buy the person just basic needs and nothing serious.
It will be difficult for someone who is married to stick to betting with the hope of making steady income.

In all my life I have only met two people who made money from betting on sports. One had it as his main income for several years, and the other had an official job, but in between he was looking for a good bet. Both of them, according to them, had a good income, but they didn't do without losses either.

In fact, there are a lot of established bookmakers on this forum who have their own threads here. So it's not that hard to find a bookmaker on your own.

we could recommend you to the most reputable bookmaker/casino here in the forum but that doesn't mean that you won't experience any issues. as far as I know, all the most popular casinos here have had a complaint against them that has something to do with when a gambler won a sizable amount of money. despite that, there are still a lot of gamblers(high rollers and regular gambler) playing on their gambling site and most of them probably has not had any issues with them when they win.

Situations couldnt really happen to anyone, for reputable and known sites or platforms then issues and complaints is something unavoidable but the important thing that it do gets resolved immediately or asap.
If we do talk about making a living on Sports betting then pretty sure that there are bettors who are really that in this state which they could able to sustain themselves and making a living out of this
venture but its not something that very common considering that gambling is never meant to be on making it as a source of income.If there are ones who do make out money or profits
on the sense that they could sustain themselves then they are indeed the good ones.

I can 100% give you guarantee that nobody in the world could make a living out of betting on sports forever. Sure you could have a stretch, a few weeks maybe, a few months if you are lucky, if you are a professional maybe even over a year.

But, can you imagine someone making a living out of this for 30 years? That is how long people work on average, they work 30 years give or take, some people work even 50 years if they really love their job, from 20 years old or so until over 70 years old, that is a long time. So, I can easily tell you that it is not going to be something easy and it will end up being a bit of a problem for everyone. I just need to explain how impossible that is with gambling.

That would be something alright, to live for so long on gambling alone. I actually think there
are people doing it but I imagine their discipline is off the charts.

There would be a few elements to be successful:
Knowledge in the sport you want to bet in, or the game you play, although I'm not sure how
with games of chance.

Discipline to be able to react accordingly to various emotions.

I wouldn't have those traits in abundance and I know not to try it! so no I'm not making
a living from gambling.

Yep I agree with you. Making a living for a year by doing sports betting is amazing to me. Most likely your overall winning percentage is about 70% at least and you have an amazing luck or a very good analytic skills. A bettor could find a sports analytic job because of how good it is to have that kind of winning percentage. I just don't think that doing gambling forever will make it up for you for life, It's just so risky that there's a chance that you cannot recover from a heavy loss.

Ive heard of people of course because quite a few will try to sell their tips but to actually known people to do it I would have to say no.  I think it would take a lot of discipline to do, capital, free time to study all the teams that can be bet and some good knowledge of the underlying dynamics to that sport.  I can imagine someone knowing one sport well, race horses perhaps is possible though I doubt that even but I really doubt anyone can bet all the various types of sports bets and be consistent enough to win regularly. 
  A Big win and 'retire' off it I guess is more probable in my mind.

I'm sure some make a living out of crypto sports betting but they don't say much more publicly or we do not know much about them. You have found many sports betting sites on this forum and many of these sites are trusted gambling sites, have been used by many people, and are sites recommended by members here. But I'm not there yet to make a living out of crypto sports betting and just to be a person who has a great time gambling, whether it's playing casino games and sports betting. You can try to place your bet on Stake ;D

There are several top casinos in our community, it looks like all of them fit your criteria. it's just that, before you try it you have to read the ToS of the gambling site that you will choose. some other members have already given you recommendations, you can check them and read the rules of the casino.

note: I will not forbid you to make a living, or make a profit from your gambling. It's just that according to my experience, playing in any casino, it all comes down to your luck.

Related to withdrawal problems, bet amounts, or casino service problems. You don't need to doubt it, I mean for a casino that has a high reputation in this forum. we also have cssino favourites, so far I haven't had any issues.Your task at this time, you only need to review casinos that match the criteria you want. Next, check if the casino supports your location. so, good luck.

Although many opinions say that it is impossible for someone to rely on gambling as a source of income or to make a living.
But actually what happened was the opposite. There were lots of gamblers who played or gambled to be a source of their income and I couldn't say or explain how they could do it and where they played because when I asked about it they didn't want to answer. and always close the meeting tightly.
Because in reality many gamblers have succeeded in getting big profits from gambling and it is not uncommon for them to experience victory.
I myself have asked several times directly to gambling enthusiasts who live in the neighborhood where I live and sure enough they have managed to use gambling as a place for them to make a living, either playing at home casinos and playing in person, some playing using online casino sites.

I won't advise anyone to pick on gambling as a means of making a living as it's not guaranteed and reliable just as a source of living ought to be. Every renowned gambler you know of surely do have other reliable source of living (jobs/business) while making gambling as an attachment to making some additional funds. I bet nobody would want to place his source of living on something predominantly based on luck.

There are lots of good casino's bookmakers in the forum that have been doing well in the past years without issues related to paying out winnings, withdrawal or cash outs, etc. Just check on anyone of the casino sigs and avatar's worn by many of the user's like myself here, go through their ToS for anyone you're cool with, but pls avoid 1xbit (candid advise).

But, is there any guarantees in this world? I believe there isn't and even the gambling streamers who didn't risk anything are still being kicked out on twitch. They too loses their careers as a gambling streamer. Casino owners can also experience a problem and they casino can get bankrupt. It's not wrong to take risk because we won't know if we will be profitable or not if we didn't try.

Plus, we are talking about sports betting here not casino games. So maybe the OP do already have a knowledge about it which can help him win more over losing. If it didn't work out well, then maybe that's the time he move on other profitable activities.

Stake and Sportsbet.io are the ones that I know of that don't have any problems with high rollers. Of course, if you're winning consistently they might ask to do 2nd level KYC for security purposes, and that has been the standard across the industry since then. If you conplied with those, you're golden, and they won't really bother you that much save for some promotions and offers here and there.

Of course these aren't the only bookies around. You also have Betnomi among others. But to be sure, read the ToS, save a screenshot of it and you're golden. Should they ever pull a trick on you regarding winning too much and give you a hard time withdrawing, just send them those little snippets from the ToS that you've saved.

Level 2 KYC or further verification is really that a standard thing for most bookies or even with those casino platforms specially when you are winning that big then it would be understandable that they would really

be asking out those information.Speaking about if there's someone who do make a living with sports betting then there are ones who do able to do such thing.Just like been said that this wont be something simple

and would really be that hard to be done by someone yet you would be needing that skills and knowledge on prolonging yourself on a field where game of chance and luck
do plays a major part and this is where people should really be minding of.

There are people who make a great living out of gambling and they also do this without much pressure.
Buti also wanted to be sure if the 5 figures you're asking of is in dollars or other national currencies but I also think 5 figures can be possible if calculated at the end of the month unless on cases of massive winning.
People who actually make a living out of gambling don't have to focus their energy on making all the profits at a time but they rather take things very easy and see every win as a major win and I'm saying all this because I once had a friend that lives very comfortably off gambling and most times his very ok with a $50 win a day when converted to my local currency it's actually big win for the day .

I have to disagree with you.

Maybe not that much but I'm sure there are professional gamblers out there that now make a living because of gambling. These professionals are obviously able to make various sources of income by now out of their gambling activity that's why there is no pressure for them at all to always keep winning in gambling just to support their daily lives.

Of course, that thinking of yours is because you have seen no one does that and as far as the community here is concerned, no such person like that is present here and actively lurking on some threads so we won't see them around.

Making a living through sports betting? There might be very few of them here, if at all. I imagine sports betting to be a difficult way to make a living. But there are probably some here who are not really working in the sense that they don't have regular jobs but are betting on sports for additional income. But there will always be losing days. It can't be the only source of money.

What I know is that the likes of Drake or Sam Bankman-Fried waged millions on Stake, so I think it's a platform big enough to handle large amounts of money.

Stake.com is a trusted bookmaker so far that has processed large amounts of withdrawals as well as the number of bets that players can use. Looks like you are a high roller and will be able to get various kinds of bonuses at stake.com.
Regarding the question of whether anyone makes a living from sports betting, of course there is, it's just that what kind of life, whether luxurious or average, will depend a lot on the capital used.

There's many trustworthy sports bookie in this forum, you only need to choose one of them. BK8 is the one of trusted bookie in this forum, although they're restrict many countries, may I know where do you live? so I can check it if you're can gamble or not in BK8.

But you need to know it's impossible to make a living through sports betting because you can't know when you're lucky and not, you might earn $1,000 in this month, but the next month you're loss $500, the third month you're loss $1,500 and the fourth month you make $5,000.

But it is possible to win from sports betting because if you can analyze properly and correctly, you can choose a team with a bigger chance of winning than the opposing team. And as long as you can be on the right track in analyzing, there will be a chance to win. And the amount of profit will also be different every month because it will depend on how you analyze and choose the matches. Some people can make money on sports betting even though the amount will never be the same each month.

Leading life through gambling is not desirable. It can never give anyone stable income. Winning or losing in gambling is uncertain. I can lose at any time when need money. And there is no number of gamblers who have not been fallen in this kind of situation. Generally one should use about the money that can afford to lose. It can only be used as a means of entertainment. You may be able to get large amounts from sports betting but cannot depend on it for daily living.

i don't think that anyone makes a living from betting on crypto,, most people gamble with a few percent of their income and it's just for entertainment ,, so when the money is gone they don't feel too lost because it's only a few percent of their income .. and for bookmakers, if you want to find bookmakers you can trust, in this forum there are some who have good reputations and you can try that platform

Please don't consider my responses harsh or arrogant. I am not sugarcoating. Just asking directly.

dimonstration - Are you a rep of duelbits or a punter yourself? Haven't answered the question I asked. How does Duelbits determine this syndicate, fixed matches? Specially what is considered as questionable games?

Also, betting pattern & shardy activities, if someone always stakes on Man Utd then it falls under shady activities. This is a shady activity from winners only?

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Oshosondy - Thanks for the tip but I am seeking answers from real punters. The only rule on majority bookmakers is Loss > Profit.

By making a living, I meant earning 4 or 5 digits USD. At least per month.

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seoincorporation - Don't need any privilege. Just assurance that bookmaker won't create problem IF I WIN.

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bittraffic - Analysis & match outcome are 2 different things. At least for soccer IMHO. I do not visit here much. Possible to point me towards the sports gamblers you were talking about?

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ryzaadit - Didn't expect arb considered as cheating from a legendary member. Match fixing isn't for small punters. Also, there are giant bookmakers out there for these types of activities.

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fullhdpixel - You are correct. After many wins & losses, when you win & ready for an withdrawal. And then bookmaker refuses to pay you, then that's an issue & looking if it can be avoided. Hence, I asked Profit - Loss = Net 4 or 5 figures.

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Little Mouse - May not be lots but MANY do. Hard pass on signal providers & tipsters alike.

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Daltonik - Yep. Trying to filter out those & see if any exists on this space.

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Yaunfitda - Yes it is very difficult. The MUCH MORE difficult part is bookmakers denies to pay IF you win big.

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danherbias07 - My wording was wrong. Should have been "Making 4 or 5 figures a month". How long have you been with stake?

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traderethereum - To my experience, there is no safely & comfortably with bookmakers. Your win is their loss. Majority of them prefer to drive these types of players away. Even right when they begin to make profit.

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Slow death - Good points have been made there. Even pointed out some bs stuff. Still looking for answers for my questions.

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Yatsan - Can you please name those "other big names in this industry"?

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len01 - I didn't say always win or everyday. The house (bookie) always wins doesn't mean I have to lose. I am not the only one who is playing. The house edge usually goes between 5% - 10% & then there are more losers than winners. Changed the thread title.

Also, thanks everyone who replied. Finished first page. Will start again when I get the time. Would have quoted every post but there is a 6 min cool down timer for me to make the next post.

You cant be sure about that because even gambling is something too risky to deal with and the odds on making a living with it is slim but still there are people whom do able to make up those profits.
For bookies that we do have on this forum then there's a quite number and for @OP you could make out some searches of their ANN threads on this gambling board where you could
see a handful numbers which you could really make yourself entrust when you do make out some sports bet. Living something or via means of gambling is hard
but not that impossible and only a few could make it out.

That's really hard to achieve, because even with sports betting there is need of luck. At times we believe cent percent and go with the odds, but the underdog wins causing big loss. Closer prediction can be made and it is a must to watch the match throughout to minimize the loss through live betting if our prediction haven't won.

With sports betting there is always the need for data collection with which close prediction can be made. If not we need to go with high bet amount on lower odds. For @1.1 and the bet value need to be $1000 to earn $100 which is high risk betting.

There are alot of people who are already full time gamblers and live all their lives on gambling and ate doing very well on it. I'm not a full time gambler but my profits are massively over my loss and one of the things that has helped me with as regards to the fact that I'm not a very frequent gambler I'd that I always have to take my time to analyze my games and I play every game like my life depends on it so I try all my possible best to be at the winning end.
There are lots of casinos that don't have any since issues with their deposit and withdrawals as long as you stay clean from your end and examples of such casinos are duelbit.

Well, I honestly don't have that extreme experience in gambling but I do not think there is any casino or sportsbook where a gambler can be making this kind of figures consistently every month, and the sportsbook won't have a problem with such a gambler.

Your account either get limited(for the more reputable casino) most especially if they noticed you are constantly winning on a particular type of sports or game, you get limited for that game or sports.

And for the not so reputable sportsbook, your account might even be banned with an excuse you are found guilty of abusing their system  ;D.

For me personally, I think for you to be making this amount of money consistently every month and don't have a problem with the casino, it means you must be spending more, or close to this amount consistently every month as well.

There no lots but rather a few considering being profitable with gambling is only to those who are really that good on picking up teams or players or simply talking about strategic type of gambling.

If you do have consider yourself on the good side then make yourself that feel great but you should be always mindful when it comes to financial handling which is the most important thing.
Im not considering myself that good but same as yours as i do see that i do able to make money and im not feeling that im on the losing side.
4 to 5 digits is something not that can be achieved by someone easily.

Those gamblers spend a lot of time to learn how they can be more effective, because if you are able to gamble for a living probably you have a lot of budget on this because earning 4 or 5 digits money requires huge capital and a huge luck. Sports betting might be a good one to achieve this since you will analyze the game before you place a bet and many gamblers becomes more successful with this one, many prefers betting.

A year or more I think.
Never had any problems with them since Day 1 and they are not that strict with anything. Withdrawal fees are also low even in Bitcoin with just 7k satoshis unlike other casino and sports bookies.
You're welcome. Good effort at trying to answer everyone. I hope you did find the answers that you are looking for.

In addition, those who you think their job is gambling every day might not be true. (if ever you sniffed it from the news or social media)
Especially those streamers that are playing slots 24/7, there's a chance they are part of the team of that gambling service or they are being paid by them and giving out the chips to be used for playing.

You're using all sorts of terms I do not understand, so obviously I do not fit in to the category of making 4 or 5 digits monthly from Crypto Sports betting.  I do know the casino I advertise for on my profile (Duelbits) does a great job of making this easy as well as Bovada, which I have also used for many years.  There are some months where I've cashed out a good bit, without any issues, but not on a consistent basis. 

This is very hard to believe because I have a brother who is so into sports bets and he used to buy match results as well but he still loses a lot more than he wins but I am not sure it's tipsters, maybe that's why his outcome is different I don't know, is tipster still functioning today?

Of course someone earns huge monthly by sports betting, but no one will ever tell you the truth, nor you will ever fight the truth. I think everyone already knows that gambling = luck, and each month results are different, and gambling is not about stability income.

I'll tell a bit about my betting or gambling results in last months. Last month I think I've lost one or two hundreds, this month I am already -50 bucks, November I think I have ended with a minus in my gambling budget (as I remember that I've made a deposit in December). Reason of such a result - I've been placing bets in a sport I dont feel like I understanding completely.

Want to get 4 or 5 digits profit from betting - first become a professional in that sport and lay down the loss percentage. Easy to say, hard to achieve.

I'm not a professional gambler who gamble for living, although sport betting is a skill based game, but shit can happen and big upset could happen without everyone image it.

Well if you're looking for reputable and trustworthy bookie you can choose Duelbits, based on my experience I don't have any problem on my account. If there's few things you're not comfortable with Duelbits, you can choose Sportsbet.io, Rollbit, Stake, Roobet etc.

Sportsbet.io is one of the best. Many of my friends are still using this platform since the day it was started. but only two of them earned great amount of money from betting. Having a decent strategy is a must if we really want to have a constant profit 

As long as you are not a member of a betting syndicate that exclusively wagers on rigged matches and dubious games, all bookmakers pays its customers.

The tipster is still functioning today, but we know it's not easy to get a tipster that can provide the right predictions. Maybe that's why not many people can make money from sports betting because they need analysis that can give the right predictions to win the game. If he can make money betting on sports, that doesn't guarantee he can keep making money betting on it forever. There were times he would lose out on that sports bet.

The number of those who would be making 4 or 5 digits in US dollars with casinos and sportsbooks on the monthly basis will be slim. One could make it once in many months, that's what I have seen/experienced among friends. But for me, Nay, it has not happened and I don't think it would happen because the money I use in betting is small. I am consistent with it because if I exhaust the money I replenish the account immediately as it's specifically dedicated to having fun.

Regardless, anyone that makes such an amount monthly must be a big boy by now.

Definitely. 4-5 digits were small digits for some real players but in myself I already managed to make 4 digits from sports betting considering that I don't gamble with money but with luck and patience I've managed to grow my profit to around $2000 (Starting around 200-300) so it is possible to make $1000/month for winning an average of $50 daily, easy right? the problem is if you get greedy or it's just really luck so possibly setting a daily goal and daily losing threshold will help you managed your bankroll.

Darksorrow (OP) .... you are looking for something that does not exist. The bookmakers and casinos are making sure that they are protecting their interest from professional gamblers. (Punters)

They will start to "restrict" your account ..based on your betting (win) history and then they will block your account.. as soon as they determine that you are a Punter... that is more or less stadard practice for all casinos and/or bookmakers.  ::)

Stake.com and Duelbits.com are quite lenient ... but they will eventually find a way to implement something to restrict you, if you are winning too much.

I do not know how Duelbits and Stake behave in this respect, although I have heard that this practice is used among bookmakers, but I personally have not come across bans of accounts without reason. One friend of mine who used to bet for a living by betting on sports told me that he had to create a new account and hide his real IP since bookmakers don't like professional bettors and they detect them very quickly.

Yes those that are serious with sports betting over time can be fine with 4 digits for the month because of experience. There is something with experience that with it decision taking are far better than inexperienced people. However people won't like to share their winning experience just like that.

Talking about winning, their are people I know that consistently win in sports betting but they won't disclose such information to you on how they manage to do that but they steadily have a cash out.

This isn't my first time hearing that comment but there are few threads here before which complains that their accounts are being restricted, limited and worse ban and they said the reason for it is they are winning to much. Of course, I didn't believe it at first as it sounds crazy in my end and lately I am not really into sports betting but maybe I change my mind now.

Still, looks inappropriate though especially if this happens on a big and respected gambling site such as stake. I think they are way too big to not being able to pay those winners plus I don't think all those who bet on their platform are winners so after all they are still taking the lead.

You can use stake as they will not create any hindrance when it comes to withdrawing any earnings no matter what the ammount is. As long as it is legit they will not create any problems.

I am not, and if it was just a situation where I have to make a living out of this, I would not be picking sports betting as my go to situation. I mean it's such a risky thing, I would rather do like trading or something to make it and I am not making my living out of trading neither, that's also quite risky but I would pick that over gambling at least, because there is no house edge or anything like that.

The whole point of gambling is to make sure casino wins, they are a business and they are giving you chance to win money by making sure they have a higher chance of making money which means that you wouldn't win on the long run and that's why I wouldn't pick it at all.

Its a risky thing and no one could easily pull it off but just like others been saying that there are really that people who are really that able to make some income or make money out of sports betting.
They might not be some member of this forum but no one really knows until if there's someone who do make out such claims and would really be that saying that he has done it for it to make it as a living.
4 or 5 digits then it could be that possible but its not something that would really be simple knowing that gambling does impose that huge risk where you cant really that imagine
that making constant profits is nearly that impossible basing off with the risk involved.

I cannot deny, with sports betting, luck can have a lot of influence, and that is something that influenced a lot, at least in the World Cup in Qatar, teams that I did not think were going to lose against other teams that did not have much relevance did. , and that is something that many were left out of reach due to their high bets with very large amounts, because they were supposed to be safe matches, so eventually there is nothing safe in terms of sports betting, a luck factor will always influence, both here in football as in any sport, except that sports betting is greatly influenced by the knowledge of the person and that is something for which you can feel more secure.

I guess you must have gotten the answer you desire by now but if no then I will suggest some nice casinos for relatively nice reviews and great reputation on the forum such as :
~stake.com
~duelbit
~sportber
And lots more and you can check on the reputation board their you will get some of the best and nice casinos over there with proven records of excellence. Also remember that what works for me might not also work for you and in most cases what you have to do is figure out a nice casino, get used and mastered with it and then try to know the basis of the platform and stake your bet and always remember to do so responsibly as no one will be held responsible for any challenges you encounter of things goes sour with you.
Goodluck.

I'm not that good in gambling like what you are asking but I can vouch that sports betting is safer that other gambling areas.

yes I mostly earn from the team I support and trust but not to make that big , at least hundred of dollars each bet or more, and maybe 4 digits ina month is possible for me.

many won big money on Stake.com even my friend won every month a few digits of USD, it's just that I'm not as brave as he is betting big money, actually to get a few digits of USD of course you have to be an expert at analyzing the sports he is betting on and I don't totally expert on that, but true you said at Stake.com everything is safe and no problem if you win big money there  ;)

Depending on how much insight and knowledge you have in the field of sports betting. Nonetheless, I agree that sports betting is safer than other types of gambling. because, the probabilities that we have in sports betting are higher than those types of bets that are based purely on luck.


Back again as I said before. apart from involving the luck factor, sports betting really depends on how broad the knowledge and insight you have regarding sports. luck is another factor, but knowledge and insight is very necessary in this type of sports betting.  in particular, football which I like the most. even so, to produce 4 or 5 digits in a month it seems it is not an easy thing.except, we are high stakes gamblers.

IMO. I myself am not sure that I can consistently make profits from every bet, because sometimes the results of matches are not in accordance with the prediction analysis that we did before. Well, this is where the luck factor is involved.

The OP is talkin about sports but the casino sites that you provided there are dual in terms of game categories. They also have sports betting on the side other than their award-winning casino games. I think there is no need for him to re-check the reputation of those sites because a lot of us will agree here that they are all legit. For those bad feedbacks that they are getting then it was only made by their haters or possibly competitors. There are also some who are guilty from cheating but they have been busted out and won't take it so they just try to destroy the reputation of those gambling sites.

As for the other question of the OP, which is to make 4-5 digits. I think this was only achievable if you are a large bettor. If not then it will be hard for you.

I say it's luck, but sports betting actually has a very high chance of winning but with the condition that you really understand sports and sometimes a team that looks like a winner can turn around to lose. for example, the soccer match between team A vs team B. in the second half, in the 85th minute, team A managed to score 1-0 but when there was 5 minutes, team B could score 2 goals and beat team A.
the reason I say that is because sometimes in sports betting there are games between the dealer and the players on the field, such as manipulation but not all matches.

in conclusion to get a monthly income from sports betting it depends on our betting commitment and how much capital we use. because without commitment we sometimes become greedy chasing defeat.

I think that in gambling a gambler can gamble with monthly investing strategy but gambling with a wish of monthly exact earning strategy is foolishness. Because here a certain amount of income can be used as a strategies for entertainment and with the hope of getting some profit. Like you can take 20% of your monthly earnings or whatever you want as a strategy for gambling and you must invest here knowing that you can lose the entire fund you have invested.
So I would say that without worrying about the amount of monthly earnings from serious gambling, keep a monthly fund to invest.

Don't promote your casino by saying BS please. You haven't seen enough threads in the scam accusation section and posts on their ann thread about funds locked after winnings or unfair limits and restrictions applied to accounts without any warnings neither notice? Your casino don't like and don't want this kind of gamblers, he would be quickly banned. They like big players but if they lose money actually. OP needs a decentralized sportsbook, a parimutuel one or a betting exchange.

looks like it's a big number 4 or 5 digits, I'm just a small gambler who might only win 2 digits USD every month, because there are often several matches that are also losing so I don't get much profit every month, I think for bookmakers all my friends a friend here already recommended it

In one match you may win and in the other you might loss. This is how the gambling activity continues, which means you can't be successfully make a fixed earning every month. At times you'll be in loss. Very few will be lucky enough to win consecutively. One who have the patience to analyse about the match and have time to watch till the end can easily win making use of the live betting access.

I think that if a person wins figures like that first, they will not come here to say it, there are people who win that, and they are in the big casinos, there are many on stake.com, those who win sometimes publish the way they did it , and that serves as an example for everyone to verify the authenticity of the best casinos with the best reputation, that is something that should always be highlighted, if we break, some casinos do too, bitcasino.io, duelbits They have published it in their respective threads, and personally they motivate me to play, but of course, not at their level, I don't have that capacity for money, but with what little I have. That when you see it in a casino, or when it is published in a thread, I know that for many it gives more motivation to win, but you have to think about what you will lose before you win.

When it comes to the point about their shared wins and victories, we don't want to take a look at how much it cost them to lose first before winning.
It's given by the book that these successful gamblers who are earning a lot with 4-5 digits USD monthly are the real and actual gamblers that have their moves planned before taking action. It's encouraging to have them shared those wins they've made and that's what they want to do and others to follow their path but it's not just really for everyone.

i really would want to see who are making 4/5 digits
These are the smartest and wisest people.
i wish to have such consistent mind and to be good with my finances to gamble and win some extra bucks.

I have also good experiences with Stake so I would say that it’s one of the most reputable one I know. But I would never suggest to anyone to make sports betting a source of living, it will never guarantee consistent profits since it’s still gambling after all. Although sports betting create more chances to win compared to casinos, but the best way to deal with it is to see it as a source of fun and entertainment rather than to make it a living and eventually lose your hard-earned money in the end.

Sportybet.com is the common betting site i often used, it's secure, transparent and reliable. No withdrawal issues and no stress during kyc processing.
And secondly, stake.com, duelbits.com i have known these gambling site to be a trusted and reliable site without any bad records, btw i don't think people do use sport betting to earn a living rather could be taken for an alternatives means of income which is not guaranteed nor certain.

They know how the gambling business goes on and that's not just easy as it may sound. Yeah, they're smart and wise and it didn't just come out easy by how we look at it.
Losses are inevitable and they're also experiencing that, no one is exempted with that but they just know how to decide correctly and they don't lean a lot with their emotions.

So far there is no individual who will race their hands claiming they earn 4-5 digitals monthly in sports betting. There could be but are not bragging about it. High rollers are very private as well.

If a person is a sports fan and has been following the sport and the athletes, I don't see any reason why he can't cast a prediction of which team will win. We are always bias in watching games.

We are all bias when it comes to moneyline which is really that a very common approach.Its true that there are people or bettors who do earn huge amount but they wont really be tending to brag about
it considering that it could really impose up some risk since we are talking huge money on here.We do know the risk and also its not really that just right for you to tell about
on how much you do win and on how much you do own overall. 4 to 5 digits arent that impossible if we do speak about monthly.We do have whale
bettors out there.

None risks big to make big earning. Through sports betting it is possible, and in recent days we've seen a good number of unexpected results with sports events. Similar things happen much when we go for bets. When we haven't placed a bet and predicted a team to win, it happens. The same won't happen when we had placed some bets. Consistency in making 4-5 digit earning out of sports betting isn't possible all the time, because luck won't be in favour of us all the time.

I don't think those who can earn 4-5 digits every month will not demonstrate their ability to make that kind of money because surely there will be a lot of people who doubt it and don't believe it. But I believe that some people can make 4-5 digits every month because they can analyze sports betting. People who can come up with those 4-5 digits must be so good at making an analysis that they can make a lot of money betting on sports.

I still haven't made that big amount just yet by gambling alone because I'm a moderate risk taker, so risking a small amount by being passive-aggressive is what I do in general.

Although I've read a lot here in forum and I've been here for quite some time already so I know a few who does make that amount from crypto betting, particularly sports, and it's really possible if you are skilled and if you are knowledgeable about sports team to begin with. There are few sites that are popular among sports bettor which as Stake and Duelbits which has positive feedbacks from most of players here. Although I can't recommend and suggest it directly because I haven't tried them yet.

Perhaps you could check the gambling section to see more threads about them and you can also browse the scam and accusations board to see if ever there's a serious unresolved issues about them. I've read numerous posts about inconveniences about the casinos mentioned, but you can check that for yourself. As long as you will abide their TOS and processes, there's a little chance you'll encounter trouble.

If I take 1000 bucks and make a 1.01 odds bet, and win, and repeat that every month, does it counts that I am making 4 digit number stable annually? :D

I usually to read casinos monthly reports. Often they share share statistics of biggest wins, amount wagered, unusual bets and etc, and I have never seen that one single gambler (his nickname, login or email is partly blurred) appeared twice. Same the statistics results are also different. I think there are no stability in income among gamblers. I dont think that gambling is kind of work. Work when you do something for a month, and get a stable XXXX-XXXXX bucks by the end of the month. I dont think it is even possible to calculate gamblers income and make an average amount they earn. They always have money in turnover. And calculation was in the beginning of the month minus has in the end of the months does not show their real income.