Title: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Fullbear2222 on January 04, 2023, 03:49:08 PM here is my take on tawain USA china possible war situation.
Too much news about tawain it's far away from the main world such us eu UK USA and other Western countries. Yes we all understood why the ukraine war is problem and we need to monitore this situation becouse ukraine is near by Europe so eu area is cautious about situation. But tawain IS not close to anything main Areas its just middle of sea and what's the point for USA china to fight over tawain ? It seems mind of silly something u got to ask what's in minds of our leaders instead of pointless things let's focus on the bigger things. Im interested about oil Market i really don't care about chips and china want LET the china take tawain who really cares ? Do i care who Will produce things for me what i need for everyday life ? Not really . Important things are oil and food and electricity anything else are not Even that big oil is important becouse everything use oil and Also electricity. What i see is this too much panic over china invade tawain Twain is too far first of all and If i see on the tv news china invade tawain i turn Different channel it's not My business or neither my family business at all Im in Western country i heard about tawain first time this country Even existing in the world. So i dont think media should mention about china invade tawain at all it's not so much interesting info for public. And Also tawain is more close to china then USA so If anything then tawain got more to do with china then USA. Why USA waste time about this tawain ? USA got a lot markets in hand all ready like oil food and military what else they need more ? Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Die_empty on January 06, 2023, 11:40:19 AM here is my take on tawain USA china possible war situation. Too much news about tawain it's far away from the main world such us eu UK USA and other Western countries. Yes we all understood why the ukraine war is problem and we need to monitore this situation becouse ukraine is near by Europe so eu area is cautious about situation. What you are saying is true, Europeans are giving Ukraine all the support because the war is really affecting them because of closeness to Ukraine. Some nations had to receive millions of Ukrainian refugees. You are suspecting that they wouldn't response or support Taiwan if China invades her because the former is far from Europe. Quote But tawain IS not close to anything main Areas its just middle of sea and what's the point for USA china to fight over tawain ? It seems mind of silly something u got to ask what's in minds of our leaders instead of pointless things let's focus on the bigger things. There are various reason why the US and NATO should be concerned about China invading Taiwan. Every nation should enjoy its sovereignty and territorial integrity. No nation has the right to invade another nation and somebody must enforce this rule. If NATO and the US keep quite one day Russia or China might conquer the entire Europe or Asia. Quote Im interested about oil Market i really don't care about chips and china want LET the china take tawain who really cares ? Do i care who Will produce things for me what i need for everyday life ? Not really . Important things are oil and food and electricity anything else are not Even that big oil is important becouse everything use oil and Also electricity. What i see is this too much panic over china invade tawain Twain is too far first of all and If i see on the tv news china invade tawain i turn Different channel it's not My business or neither my family business at all Im in Western country i heard about tawain first time this country Even existing in the world. So i dont think media should mention about china invade tawain at all it's not so much interesting info for public. And Also tawain is more close to china then USA so If anything then tawain got more to do with china then USA. Why USA waste time about this tawain ? USA got a lot markets in hand all ready like oil food and military what else they need more ? You might not know the importance of Taiwan now until it is invaded. An instability in Taiwan would affect all the sectors of the world. The world is higher interrelated and interdependent. I never knew that the war in Ukraine will affect the price of gas, crude, electricity, fuel, bread, in fact everything would increase. Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: worldofcoins on January 14, 2023, 01:43:56 PM In my opinion, the safety and life of the people in Taiwan, any part of the country, are more critical than silicone chips or any other natural resource.
So I do not partially agree with your post. However, everyone must first consider the people in any war or situation. Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Theones on January 16, 2023, 10:41:27 PM In my opinion, the safety and life of the people in Taiwan, any part of the country, are more critical than silicone chips or any other natural resource. we already have so much killing - yet the warlord wants to make sure that more people die So I do not partially agree with your post. However, everyone must first consider the people in any war or situation. COVID - Afghan - US war - The Ukraine Russia war and now there is other trouble looming on us taiwan and China war and no doubt - USA will be in the forefront Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: BADecker on January 16, 2023, 10:49:48 PM Of course, then there is the point that Taiwan's military required enlistment is one of the shortest that there is, and the pay isn't bad. So, maybe there isn't much of a problem over there. Or are they depending on the US too much?
How Long Is Compulsory Military Service? (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/338280-2023-01-16-how-long-is-compulsory-military-service.htm) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/how-long-compulsory-military-service Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen announced early last week that conscription will include more intense training so that the country is better equipped should China invade. Conscripts will also receive a higher monthly stipend, increasing from NT$6,500 (US$211) to NT$26,307 (US$856), which is roughly akin to minimum wage. In a poll conducted by the Taiwanese Public Opinion Foundation in December, 73 percent of respondents supported the move. Fewer than 30 countries worldwide still require whole age cohorts to complete military service. But, as Statista's Anna Fleck details below, among those that do, four months is a relatively short period of time. Taiwan had originally stipulated two years of service, however this was gradually cut down to four months as of 2013, with the intention of relying more heavily on volunteer forces instead. As Statista's chart shows, North Korea stands at the other end of the spectrum in terms of duration, although media reports vary. The Guardian reported 10 years for men and 7 for women as of 2015, while the Indian Express puts the figures closer to 8 years for men and 5 for women. According to media reports, those in the elite class are usually able to avoid conscription. ... (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/how-long-compulsory-military-service) 8) Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Theones on January 17, 2023, 03:49:11 PM In my opinion, the safety and life of the people in Taiwan, any part of the country, are more critical than silicone chips or any other natural resource. we need peace now. A lot of lives have been lost already. So I do not partially agree with your post. However, everyone must first consider the people in any war or situation. Covid - Russian was - Afghan war and now we can't afford another war! Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: BADecker on January 17, 2023, 04:03:51 PM In my opinion, the safety and life of the people in Taiwan, any part of the country, are more critical than silicone chips or any other natural resource. we need peace now. A lot of lives have been lost already. So I do not partially agree with your post. However, everyone must first consider the people in any war or situation. Covid - Russian was - Afghan war and now we can't afford another war! There isn't any peace. The appearance of peace by removing all wars, still isn't peace. Why not? Because it only changes the day of death for all people, and the amount of time that they live in this life. To get true peace, we need extended life for all of us. So far, you can find people of ancient times who have lived longer than any of us do now. And, you can find people who died much younger than any ofus do now. Check the statistics. There are few who live to be over 100-y-o. And there are none who live to be 200. Or do you know of some? War may produce such a desire for peace in some, that they will turn to God - Jesus salvation - and the Bible to find the only peace that really exists. But absence of war, and evangelization of the masses, just might produce more salvation than war. 8) Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Theones on January 22, 2023, 12:12:23 AM There isn't any peace. The appearance of peace by removing all wars, still isn't peace. Why not? Because it only changes the day of death for all people, and the amount of time that they live in this life. To get true peace, we need extended life for all of us. So far, you can find people of ancient times who have lived longer than any of us do now. And, you can find people who died much younger than any ofus do now. Check the statistics. There are few who live to be over 100-y-o. And there are none who live to be 200. Or do you know of some? War may produce such a desire for peace in some, that they will turn to God - Jesus salvation - and the Bible to find the only peace that really exists. But absence of war, and evangelization of the masses, just might produce more salvation than war. 8) The world of fighting and betrayal is what we are all doing. At the end - the dust we are and to dust we return Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Gyfts on January 22, 2023, 08:38:53 AM You might not know the importance of Taiwan now until it is invaded. An instability in Taiwan would affect all the sectors of the world. The world is higher interrelated and interdependent. I never knew that the price of gas, crude, electricity, fuel, bread, in fact everything would increase. Hate to say it but no one would care if Taiwan was invaded if it were not for TSMC dominating the semiconductor market. U.S. has an interest in ensuring the semiconductor supply and that also effects Europe. Of course the U.S. has been the only country supporting war efforts in Ukraine, Europe has done little to nothing. So I'm sure if China did pull the trigger and finally invade Taiwan, then I'm sure we'd see a replication of current events with the U.S. taking all the action and financial burden (by action I don't mean military intervention.) Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Betwrong on January 22, 2023, 01:01:28 PM ~ So i dont think media should mention about china invade tawain at all it's not so much interesting info for public. ~ All the more so because it will never happen. Anti Western folks are fond of saying that it is the West that is heavily dependent on China, but the reality is quite the opposite. China's economy is already in trouble, and if China tries to invade Taiwan, all ties with the richest countries in the world will be broken, and no one will be there to help to improve the situation. China's leaders know it, and they will never try to do such a stupid thing as invading Taiwan. Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Theones on January 23, 2023, 07:37:47 AM ~ So i dont think media should mention about china invade tawain at all it's not so much interesting info for public. ~ All the more so because it will never happen. Anti Western folks are fond of saying that it is the West that is heavily dependent on China, but the reality is quite the opposite. China's economy is already in trouble, and if China tries to invade Taiwan, all ties with the richest countries in the world will be broken, and no one will be there to help to improve the situation. China's leaders know it, and they will never try to do such a stupid thing as invading Taiwan. Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Betwrong on January 29, 2023, 11:07:57 AM ~ So i dont think media should mention about china invade tawain at all it's not so much interesting info for public. ~ All the more so because it will never happen. Anti Western folks are fond of saying that it is the West that is heavily dependent on China, but the reality is quite the opposite. China's economy is already in trouble, and if China tries to invade Taiwan, all ties with the richest countries in the world will be broken, and no one will be there to help to improve the situation. China's leaders know it, and they will never try to do such a stupid thing as invading Taiwan. Conspiracy theories? The "war lords"? Yet another war to reduce the population of the overpopulated world? Let me guess, "Putin is the saviour"? :) I find it funny that there are still people like you, who can read and write, and yet they can't grasp anything more complex than Russian propaganda feeding them with that Neanderthal garbage. Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Theones on January 29, 2023, 11:29:38 PM ~ So i dont think media should mention about china invade tawain at all it's not so much interesting info for public. ~ All the more so because it will never happen. Anti Western folks are fond of saying that it is the West that is heavily dependent on China, but the reality is quite the opposite. China's economy is already in trouble, and if China tries to invade Taiwan, all ties with the richest countries in the world will be broken, and no one will be there to help to improve the situation. China's leaders know it, and they will never try to do such a stupid thing as invading Taiwan. Conspiracy theories? The "war lords"? Yet another war to reduce the population of the overpopulated world? Let me guess, "Putin is the saviour"? :) I find it funny that there are still people like you, who can read and write, and yet they can't grasp anything more complex than Russian propaganda feeding them with that Neanderthal garbage. Everyone has their opinion - and you can't control the whole world opinion and you are not the only wise person to tell other what they should write. You have made a personal attack here. Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: og kush420 on January 30, 2023, 12:07:12 AM In my opinion, the safety and life of the people in Taiwan, any part of the country, are more critical than silicone chips or any other natural resource. we need peace now. A lot of lives have been lost already. So I do not partially agree with your post. However, everyone must first consider the people in any war or situation. Covid - Russian was - Afghan war and now we can't afford another war! There isn't any peace. The appearance of peace by removing all wars, still isn't peace. Why not? Because it only changes the day of death for all people, and the amount of time that they live in this life. To get true peace, we need extended life for all of us. So far, you can find people of ancient times who have lived longer than any of us do now. And, you can find people who died much younger than any ofus do now. Check the statistics. There are few who live to be over 100-y-o. And there are none who live to be 200. Or do you know of some? War may produce such a desire for peace in some, that they will turn to God - Jesus salvation - and the Bible to find the only peace that really exists. But absence of war, and evangelization of the masses, just might produce more salvation than war. 8) Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Betwrong on February 04, 2023, 11:18:16 AM ~ On the other hand I have doubt about you too - who would write garbage to make other feel small. Everyone has their opinion - and you can't control the whole world opinion and you are not the only wise person to tell other what they should write. You have made a personal attack here. It was rude. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you. What I really wanted was to to make you open your eyes and see that the world isn't that evil as any dictatorship's propaganda making its listeners to believe. No one wants to start wars(vaccinate people with deadly vaccines, or whatever) and kill millions of innocent people only to reduce the world population and stuff. It's only totalitarian sect leaders and totalitarian governments tell their slaves that the only good force in the world is them. Don't be one of those slaves. You deserve a better life. Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Kavelj22 on April 09, 2023, 04:40:31 PM Yesterday, Taiwan spotted 3 warships and a Chinese anti-submarine helicopter near the island. These developments come in light of the escalation of tension between the two parties against the backdrop of a meeting between the President of Taiwan and the Speaker of the US House of Representatives. Chinese television stated that the maneuvers that started yesterday, Saturday, and will end tomorrow, Monday, aim to practice surrounding the island and create a deterrent force in anticipation of any possible military emergency. Many took this as a serious warning (threat) of collusion between the separatist forces seeking Taiwan independence and the outside powers mainly represented by the United States. While the president of Taiwan condemned what she called "China's authoritarian expansionism," stressing that Taiwan will continue to work with the United States and other countries to defend democracy and freedom, as she put it. At the same time, the United States called on Beijing to show restraint.
What do you think? Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Hispo on April 09, 2023, 08:21:10 PM When we talk about Taiwan, we talk about people who does not want to live under the regime of the Chinese communist party.
It is about the fact Taiwan is a lovely and thriving economy whose people would suffer the end of many of their civil freedoms if they got invaded by China. I mean, people from Mainland China does not even have the right to freely use internet, they have got their web completely censored. If you are a defender of the democracy and the liberty, then you are supposed to be at least informed about the political tensions going on there. In my point of view,China may siege the opportunity to invade the island, since the west has already sent much of their arsenal to Ukraine. Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Die_empty on April 10, 2023, 01:48:03 AM When we talk about Taiwan, we talk about people who does not want to live under the regime of the Chinese communist party. Pentagon has always echoed the fact that they are committed to defending Taiwan if China invades the country. It will not be like the case of Ukraine where the US is avoiding a confrontation with Russia because it has not committed to protecting Ukraine. There are predictions that China might try to manipulate Taiwan elections next year, cause chaos, and use the opportunity to invade the island when the US will also be busy with her elections. It is about the fact Taiwan is a lovely and thriving economy whose people would suffer the end of many of their civil freedoms if they got invaded by China. I mean, people from Mainland China does not even have the right to freely use internet, they have got their web completely censored. If you are a defender of the democracy and the liberty, then you are supposed to be at least informed about the political tensions going on there. In my point of view,China may siege the opportunity to invade the island, since the west has already sent much of their arsenal to Ukraine. But I hope China has learned some lessons from Russia. I think Putin might have lectured Xi on the unpredictability of wars. The US still has enough arsenal to fight more wars. What she sent to Ukraine has a replacement or are the outdated version of some military device. The US will not be that unwise to send most of its warheads to Ukraine workout reserving some to fight its arch-rival. We should not also forget that the US has allies that will be willing to deal with China. Title: Re: Tawain war danger too much panic over this here is my take on this Post by: Hispo on April 10, 2023, 08:46:25 PM When we talk about Taiwan, we talk about people who does not want to live under the regime of the Chinese communist party. Pentagon has always echoed the fact that they are committed to defending Taiwan if China invades the country. It will not be like the case of Ukraine where the US is avoiding a confrontation with Russia because it has not committed to protecting Ukraine. There are predictions that China might try to manipulate Taiwan elections next year, cause chaos, and use the opportunity to invade the island when the US will also be busy with her elections. It is about the fact Taiwan is a lovely and thriving economy whose people would suffer the end of many of their civil freedoms if they got invaded by China. I mean, people from Mainland China does not even have the right to freely use internet, they have got their web completely censored. If you are a defender of the democracy and the liberty, then you are supposed to be at least informed about the political tensions going on there. In my point of view,China may siege the opportunity to invade the island, since the west has already sent much of their arsenal to Ukraine. But I hope China has learned some lessons from Russia. I think Putin might have lectured Xi on the unpredictability of wars. The US still has enough arsenal to fight more wars. What she sent to Ukraine has a replacement or are the outdated version of some military device. The US will not be that unwise to send most of its warheads to Ukraine workout reserving some to fight its arch-rival. We should not also forget that the US has allies that will be willing to deal with China. If we dive into the topic of elections manipulation as a strategy within the geopolitics, I do not know if China would try to do so in Taiwan, because they seem rather more interested in a direct confrontation instead undermining the trust of the Taiwanese people on their government. The election manipulation and the manipulation of the public opinion is more possible to happen in the United States, in favor of Trump or the Republican candidate, since we already know that the Republican base and many of the red politicians in both chambers are skeptical in keeping the support to Kiev, which may benefit both Russia and China in their territorial ambitions. |