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After Wilder disposes Helenius and Ruiz beat Ortiz

Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr. is the next confirmed heavyweight title eliminator, the World Boxing Council has confirmed.

The fight although confirmed the date is not yet confirmed I created a poll on who's going to win by a knock out because I don't see this match going into a decision



Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr. WBC heavyweight clash confirmed (https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/01/05/deontay-wilder-vs-andy-ruiz-jr-confirmed-wbc)

I give Ruiz a very good shot at winning. He has good power and can fight on the inside too. The only question is how will his chin hold up?

I've lost all respect for Wilder after saying Fury cheated. He is DELUSIONAL.

Lets go Ruiz!

I doubt personally that the guy with the bloated belly,the white guy in the picture above to have real possibilities to win the fight.Well as I said before when two persons are fighting each other is the most difficult to predict in terms of betting as we don't know the physical form of each of the fighters.

However I never would bet on someone with that bloated belly as the white guy which I am assuming is Ruiz because I don't follow that much this sport,it is a weak point for him,if he is hit there strongly chances are he will immediately lose the fight.

Ruiz sometimes will surprise the audience with his fast KO punch. He made it not just once so it's possible. Although out of shape, he does wilder swings that KOed hitters. The last 3 fights of Ruiz are not as impressive however I'd say 50/50, his fight with Ortiz was a UD. Wilder was given the shot against Fury because there is anticipation. He easily beat Helenius in the first round.

If I'm to place a bet between Wilder and Ruiz. I'll definitely go for Wilder judging from his physique I think he has more chance of winning than the Ruiz guy. And also Ruiz has won more than 37% of his matches by decision and the remaining 63% by KO meanwhile Wilder has won close to 98% of his matches by KO.

I doubt if Ruiz will stand a chance with Wilder but let's see how the match will turn out to be. Who knows if Ruiz will have some trick up his sleeves that might help him win the match.

Judging by your comment it's clear you have no knowledge about boxing.

That "White" guy is actually Mexican and knocked out the undisputed champion of the world in Anthony Joshua when he was a heavy underdog.

Never judge a book by it's cover.

Deontay is the hardest hitter of this generation we have seen him knock guys with one punch whereas Ruiz needs a barrage of punches before he can knock his opponents down, it's easy to see who's going to win here a guy who can shut the light of any boxer out with one punch with the exception of Fury of course, or a guy who needs five to six punches to down his opponent, Wilde only need one punch and he can get it against the smaller Ruiz.

If Andy Ruiz Jr bets this time with Deontay Wilder, I have no objection to placing a bet for Andy Ruiz Jr, I'm pretty sure he can beat Deontay, he is a professional boxer as far as I know, I often see in the ring the boxer of Mexican descent, when he beats his opponent.

I know Andy's title very well which is nicknamed 'The Destroyer' in my opinion Andy has to beat Deontay this time, if he can win against Deontay, Andy will definitely face the WBC champion Tyson Fury in the upcoming meeting, this is a good opportunity for Andy to head into his boxing career in the future.

Those fats can absorb the impact of the punch with less damage compared to a solid body build. It’s like a rubber that can deflect punch with minimal damage received only. The only weakness of this kind of fighter is typically the glass chin but since this is heavy weight, Fight usually happened very quickly and anyone can be kissing the canvass with one solid punch so the body build is not that much being consider on this weight class.

Besides Tyson Fury has this kind of build too that is not muscular type yet he beat so many fighter with muscular body build. My money will go to Ruiz because he is pretty impressive and already proved himself when beat Ortiz

It all depends on how serious Ruiz has been in his training camp. The first fight he had with Joshua he fought like his life depended on it. Then before the second fight after making a load of money in the first he partied hard & stopped giving 100% in training.

If he is fully motivated & has been working hard he could trouble Wilder but if not Wilder will destroy him.

I think I know already who will win this fight. Obviously, Wilder is the better fighter as he only losses to Fury, other boxers, he just dominated them and I don't think Ruiz is a legit champion although he once hold a belt. If the odds are available, I'll definitely bet on Wilder to win by KO.

I still believe that Wilder is the most dangerous puncher in our generation 42 wins 41 knockouts and you just have to watch what he did to Helenius to agree, he is good to land one punch and it's over, all Wilder has to do is to find that sweet spot to land the right hand and its over, no way Ruiz can slug it out without getting hit by that powerful right hand so I'll go for Wilder here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHsq1MEmpLM

His last fight showed how he usually wins the fight, he still has that power, so Ruiz has to be very careful. I know Ruiz had some power too but compared to Wilder, we can see a big difference. I think we should see Wilder and Joshua fight, that's a better fight compared to this one IMO.

If Ruiz is motivated this is a very dangerous fight for Wilder. Ruiz can throw bombs and loves to fight on the inside which is Wilder's weakness. I give Ruiz a good chance at causing the upset.

He enjoys his fight but that was a short term fame only. In the rematch, Joshua beat him and then he start from the beginning again. Here' he has a big chance to upset Wilder and make some noise in the boxing industry, who knows after this fight, he might be able to be given a chance to challenge the gypsy King.


He needs to work hard, Wilder is a one punch KO artist, he might not be able to survive the heavy punches if he will not focus on his training.

This fight might end in a knock out though, two punchers and you know when they go at each other, someone will go to the canvass. I will also give Ruiz a chance here, the thing with Wilder is that when he faces a fighter than can box, he had a lot of problems early and the only thing that will save him is his punching power. But against a technical Fury, and a boxer that can take his power, Wilder is no match. Ruiz has a good chin too so that is a positive for him. So this is going to be close fight and if Ruiz is the underdog here, might be good to throw some money on him, hehehe.

Good luck bro, but honestly, I don't think it's a good idea because Fury is the only king and the kryptonite of Wilder. Until no other boxer would beat Wilder except Fury, I believe he is next to the best, even compared to the other champion in the heavyweight division.

Oleksandr Usyk vs Wilder
Joshua vs Wilder

That's the kind of fight that I think more challenging to Wilder than this one.

That's a good bet because many are predicting Wilder to win, I'll go with Wilder he can end the fight with one punch, I've seen him do this so many times Ruiz is a small fighter compared to Wilder and he can impose his size against Ruiz, to beat Wilder you must not only have a perfect plan but you must have a strong chin, we'll see if Ruiz really has a strong Chin, if he can take or eat Wilder punches then he has a good chance.
And I am one of those who believe that this fight will not end in a knockout, these two guys just need a good opening to end the fight, it will just go on who landed first at the right place and time.

Believe it or not at some point Ruiz was a heavy weight championship and he had 3 out of the 4 major belts, now he was only the champion for a few months as he lost on the second match against Joshua but do not underestimate him just because he does not look ripped, besides if we were talking about pure boxing ability he is one of the best the heavyweight division has at the moment, however I still think Wilder will win as the defense of Ruiz is weak and Wilder has simply too much power.

I dont know if its just me on which im really dont have much that trust when it comes to body shape of Ruiz  :) You could make out some comparison though and we arent that blind to see the difference

which you could tell that Wilder could rip out Ruiz based up on form but just like you do said that he wont really be that a champion for nothing and its not a good idea on making yourself that
too confident. Ruiz does have that power and good in technical but not something good when it comes to defense just like you do said.
Just like the rest been saying that about KO decision then it would be likely to happen.

Ruiz's figure isn't pure fat, there is muscle hiding on that fat  ;D.  So I think the fight can go either way.   Both have the ability to KO their opponent but in record, it somehow give an idea that Ruiz is the tougher boxer because he has never been KO'ed though he gets knocked down in his fight he is able to recover and win the fight.


I agree don't underestimate Ruiz, he is surprisingly a strong puncher and can recover quickly turning the tempo of the fight in his favor.  I am still on the either can win since the two boxer can be explosive and end the fight in an intant.

At the back of mind I tip Wilder to be the winner. Not as if Ruiz can't win, because I know he can sure take a punch. This is because Wilder has the hunger and intends to make it right by facing Fury. Though Wilder had hopes of facing AJ, he now has Ruiz to contend with while AJ would be having a match sometime between March/April and will be hoping to rebound with a win after his loss the last time.
Ruiz will have a hard time here and has got to grow in depth muscles if he intends to sustain his punches and defend himself from his opponent with a tall frame and a powerful KO arm.

I wouldn't comment on the body shape since appearance doesn't really important.

Not to underestimated Wilder's power, but I doubt it will be easy fight for Wilder to knock out Ruiz. Ruiz haven't lose via KO in his whole career, he only lose against Anthony Joshua via decision 2 times even though Joshua is strong and has high KO chance for 81,48%.

I predict Ruiz could survive for 12 rounds even though Wilder will win this fight.

Very tough and hard to see how the fight will end, part of me saying that Wilder can knock out Ruiz, but then again, as you have said, Ruiz hasn't been knockout and even the fight against King Kong Ortiz, who is also a big puncher, he didn't go down in the fight and eventually win it.

So yeah, most probably Ruiz would survived a grueling and hard fought 12 rounds but Wilder might win by like 2 points in the judges scorecard.

I also wanted to see Wilder fight Usyk as well in the future if he wins here.

Ruiz would be lucky enough if he will survive the 12 rounds, I'm willing to accept a bet 2 is to 1 for Wilder to knock Ruiz out in less than 12 rounds. I mean, no disrespect to Ruiz and his fans, I just don't think that Ruiz has already faced a boxer like Wilder who loves to finish the fight early.

No problem mate, hehehe, yes Fury might be his daddy, and I think losing to Fury twice that way could have put some dent on Wilder's mentality just saying. His last fight is against a B level fighter, Helenius. And I think Ruiz is better that Helenius in every aspect, so it's a good fight indeed but who knows, there could be some upset. Specially if Ruiz can hit Wilder flush and then the memory of Fury comes back to hunt him. Usyk might be a good challenge for Wilder, and he has been calling Usyk after he won against Helenius. But it's good that we will have a title eliminator in line to see who is the best to face the champion again. No odds yet though from our favorite sports bookies but Wilder will be the favorite here that's why it's going to be an attractive odd to bet on the underdog on Andy Ruiz, just saying.

If Ruiz didn't get that upset win against Joshua, many of us here will bet for Wilder with this one, right?
Many here are still rooting for Wilder with this one but TBH, Ruiz still has a shot and with his fight against Joshua, that only shows that you can still win even all of the people are betting against you.

OP said that this will end up in a KO, but Ruiz still didn't lose by a KO in his whole career. Lost twice to a strong Joshua that has a high KO win rate thru a decision. On the other hand, we've seen one of the best KO punchers in Heavyweight division in Wilder.

This will be a test of stamina and strength combined. I don't think that this will end up in a KO, but it will be a decision. I would not be surprised though if Wilder wins by knockout on this one even though Ruiz didn't lose by knockout on his whole career. I voted Wilder on this one.

This is not a bad fight at all since these boxers are going to give us more surprises in the ring because they are both capable of knocking out each other. Wilder might have a slight chance to be at the advantage but Ruiz also has some skills that will gonna surprise every one of us especially when he lands that power punch with the right timing and Wilder will not be able to recover fast from that. overall, this is one of the fights they should really make this year especially since these came from a win from their last fight.

In the rematch, it was Ruiz on doing that he lost the fight, he admitted that after that big win, he just went and go party with his success, became lazy in training and then Joshua adopted to his style, we might as well say that Joshua just run the whole fight.

But the question is still Ruiz stamina as he might gas out later if the fight goes to distance.

Or gets tired if Wilder caught him with good combination.

Hopefully, this fight will happen ASAP, not be postponed and stuff.
For me, Wilder is still a beast since he only lost to the best of the best! Whereas Ruiz lost to the "bodybuilder," lol.
Don't forget that besides Wilder's one-punch KO power, he also has reach, which can be extremely difficult for Fat Ruiz.
So Wilder will KO Ruiz IMO since he's not going to be pussy like the "bodybuilder."

Looks like the public are seeing this fight will be dominated by Wilder.

As per this article, the opening betting odds are.
https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/wilder-vs-ruiz-odds/


I think I would take the -350 as I don't think Wilder will lose this fight. I know he won't have another shot with Fury, but at least he would dominate other heavyweights like he usually do.

That's 1.29 if converted in decimal. Nice odds if you really are too confident that Ruiz does not have a chance of winning the fight. If that odds are already out now, I guess I will not hesitate taking that early, I'm afraid that will drop if the public will continue hammering that ML odds.

Yeah, but he beat the body builder first, and in the rematch, he was too cocky and confident and that body builder adjusted.

But being fat might be a advantage here as his added weight might be enough to hold him straight even if Wilder hit him with his best shot. And even the body builder didn't knock him down, it was a decision win. So it will be interested on this fight will pan out, Wilder with his power punch and Ruiz as well and then his good chin to be tested and see if it can hold. And on the same time, touch Wilder as well with his own power punch.

But we never know if he keeps beating and knocking out other heavyweight fighters we never know if he becomes a heavyweight champion and he faces Fury again, Fury has become Wilder's worst nightmare, every boxer has that one boxer that got their numbers, like Marquez to Pacquiao, Wilder is highly motivated to get back on top while Fury is on the brink of retirement and a match for the fourth time is still possible in the future, and could possibly motivate Fury to stay out of retirement.

I join you and the few others who went for Ruiz in the poll hehe.

Wilder sure have some heavy bombs in his hands but he's not really the evasive type or technically sound fighter either. I just think that Ruiz would be faster in landing punches and those aren't to be taken lightly either.

Interesting how the odds would play out a month prior to the match. I hope nobody would sustain an injury while training as I also want to see this happen soon.

This will be without a doubt an interesting fight to watch as their styles are too different, Ruiz has probably the fastest hands on the division and if the fight goes through the 12 rounds it would be difficult for Wilder to win the decision, so he needs to KO Ruiz at some point during their match if he wants to win, something we know he is fully capable, however as you state Ruiz has a very strong chin and it will be very interesting to watch which one of the two styles imposes itself at the end.

Depends what Ruiz we get. Whether it'll be the laid back version or the fighter that is actually chasing something. Even then, I suspect Wilder to catch him later in the rounds, and likely put him down for the fight. I like Ruiz, at least when he was motivated, and he seemed like a nice guy outside the ring. Whereas, Wilder seems to be a little delusional, and has a god complex. I don't know if that's for show though.

I'd probably edge towards Wilder simply because he managed to put Fury down despite his movement several times. I don't expect Ruiz to have the stamina or movement to avoid that.

Even though i don't really like Deontay Wilder i still think that he is the favorite in a fight against Andy Ruiz. I mean both of them are not really good boxers from a technical point of view but Ruiz is still better in this regard than Wilder. That does not really change the fact though that Wilder still has that extreme power to knock every opponent out with only one punch that hits the target nicely. Also i have to say, that this fight is not really hyping me up or that i am really looking forward to it.
For me this just feels like a tier 2 fight in comparison to a possible fight of Tyson Fury versus Oleksyndr Usyk or even a fight of Fury vs Anthony Joshua.
Whoever wins this fight of Wilder vs Ruiz will not really have a chance against Fury or Usyk anyway because they are both great technical fighters.

I also don't think this fight will be decided by the scorecards. This is most probably ending in a knockout. Wilder is the potential winner here. It looks like Wilder has all the advantages over Ruiz: reach, height, power, and others. Early odds suggest the same with Wilder being the favorite at 1.43. But I still want Ruiz to give a good fight. I even want this underdog to win. He can upset Wilder, of course, but he and his team will have to develop a great strategy against the bigger man. And Ruiz has to train really hard and come out 100% fit and ready.

They cant really just let this to be taken lightly but rather the opposite, of course their camp would really be finding out ways on how to beat up Wilder.Pretty sure they are aware on whats his weakness
which i would probably say about stamina based up on observation from his past fights but this is just my own view. Technicality wise and power then i dont have doubts for Wilder
and this is something should Ruiz to watch on.Dont let those powerpunches would hit up that solid or else KO would be guaranteed.

I agree, during the first Fury fight, it seems that he is really motivated, after all it's a great chance for him to showcase his talent and then that huge upset win he got. But after that we all know that he become laid back, nowhere he is close during the rematch and if I'm not mistaken, he is more heavier than in the first fight. Joshua become more intelligent on that fight. So if a version on him shows with nothing to lose and he will throw everything at Wilder, then maybe we will see a good fight and probably pull another upset in the HW division. But that one punch KO of Wilder though, if that landed flush, we can see if that chin will stay on crack under pressure.

Joshua just became a little more shy. He fought intelligently, but against any half motivated fighter he probably would've been out boxed. It's one of my biggest annoyances with Joshua ever since that fight. He thinks he can outbox some of the better boxers in the division, yet that isn't what he built his career on.

Just like Wilder. We aren't going to see Wilder try to outbox someone, simply because he doesn't have the skill set. We're going to see him go for the knock out. He gets outpointed every fight he's in, and it'll likely be the same with the Ruiz fight. However, he manages to get a few big punches in, and those big punches usually knock out the opponent. I don't think Ruiz's chin is up to the standard of Fury's either.

He became more cautious though, I would have to agree, even in the Usyk first fight, he has somewhat pull back early on giving Usyk the chance to score and when he tries to come back in the later round, he was so down in the judges score card and then Usyk using this technical abilities to win the fight twice


And that's what we wanted to see in this fight, very interesting if Ruiz chin can hold up against the power of Wilder. I would say 50/50 maybe he will go down, but can recover, but if he hit him flush with so much power, then probably Ruiz will have his first knockout lost.

Only Fury had recovered from getting knock down, so I don't expect a lot from Ruiz because I don't think he has a strong chin like Fury. If he can stand up and continue to fight after getting knock down, then probably he will win the fight, but like I said, I don't want to expect a lot.

I believe the fight between Deontay Wilder and Andy Ruiz will surely happen this year, it's one of the fights that people would like to see happen and I bet Wilder to win. Andy Ruiz has made a very good name for himself and his rise to the heavyweight division has been much noticed and appreciated. But this guy is still an underdog person to me, Deontay Wilder is more experienced and had defeated wilder beasts than him. His own would not be an issue.

However, it would be difficult for him to knock Ruiz down easily, he should get prepared for the survival of the fittest till the last possible round along with his magic hand and let his height be an instrument of intimidation.

You have a point too. As much as possible, fighters should always stay fit and healthy, because that will also give effect to the outcome of their fight. Otherwise, they will feel exhausted and completely tired in the middle of the fight which will instantly lead to a loss. However, we can’t be sure too if Ruiz will be affected with his bloated belly as he seems even braver, and even seems a powerful puncher. So let’s just wait and see when the final fight happens.

That is the big mystery of this fight, we know that Ruiz has in fact a good chin, but how good it is? The chin of Fury is insane as even if was put on the floor a few times by Wilder he got up and was still able to keep himself in the fight without too much of a problem while other boxers probably did not even knew their own names after they received a punch thrown by Wilder, if Ruiz is as motivated as he was on his first fight with Joshua and he can take head-on the power of Wilder then his chances to win this fight raise considerably.

Ruiz has a solid chin I think and probably that will make him hard to be knockout. But I also agree in you that there’s less to expect from Ruiz, so I would rather vote for Wilder on this match. I’ve seen his previous fights, yes he’s strong and firm, but if Wilder will show better performance in the ring, that will eventually make him the underdog then.

Ruiz is already out ranged, which probably means that anything thrown by Wilder will be at speed, and connect at the right moment. He's shown a decent chin, and good recovery. However, I personally don't think it's a good thing that it has been tested so many times. You do that against Wilder, and you'll be knocked out before you know it.

Fury showed that when you put Wilder on the back foot you'll still eat some big shots, but it's probably better to put him on the back foot, than having him wait until the perfect moment. I can't see Ruiz putting him on the back foot too much, since he doesn't really have the physical presence that Fury has.

Two different fighters, Ruiz is not even a top 5 best heavyweight boxer in the world IMO, so Ruiz does not stand a chance against Wilder who is a power puncher. With this size, I don't see he can do a big counter punch on Wilder if he doesn't know how to box him well, and if he cannot absorb the hard punches of Wilder.

I'm not expecting a lot from Ruiz, but I'm just hoping he'll give a competitive fight so the fight will not end immediately.

Most likely Ruiz will want to put up a good challenge for Wilder here, after all Ruiz wanted to get back the respect that he once had when he defeated Joshua as an underdog. Both are flat footed in my opinion and that's why they took advantage of their power, we've see how powerful Wilder is, before that lost to Fury. But for sure he still has that power in him in this fight So Ruiz will have a difficult time to move away and avoid that power punches of Wilder and not sure if he can absorb that hard punches once it landed on his chin.

Just to be fair with Andy Ruiz, he is a rank in the Heavyweight division,

#2 by WBC
#3 by IBF
#1 by WBO

Only in WBA that he is not even in the rankings for unknown reason. And on the other hand, Filip Hrgovic and Andy Ruiz was ordered by the IBF to fight for the interim belt. So it's kinda crazy that this body is ordering mandatories and they have a lots of title like the regular belt holder and then the interim, hehehe.

He deserves to have a crack at the title, I thought that his fight with Kingkong Ortiz is the title elimination but it turned out not, of all the World governing boxing bodies I consider the WBC the most prestigious because this is where the lineal champion comes from, and the oldest one too, these governing body should stop giving interim titles it's not a legit title if you are the champion you are a title holder, either they strip it or other fighters fight for it.

It's only for an interim belt. He can always just refuse it as well. Ruiz will probably take the bigger fight which is Wilder as it obviously comes with a shot at Fury should if he win as well. I don't think this is going to be a good fight for Ruiz. Wilder will destroy him, though I guess if he beat AJ anything is possible but Wilder is far more dangerous than AJ in my opinion. Not sure what's going on with this fight but I'd love to see Wilder against Fury again. He's going to want revenge and I seriously think losing to Fury has changed Wilder.

Yes, he might refused and go with Ruiz for the title eliminator, and maybe there are more money here as compare to fighting the likes of Filip Hrgovic for the interim belt.

Not sure, but maybe Fury would like a 3rd fight with Wilder and then destroy Deontay again. Yes, since his lost, he had to take tune up fights to bring his confident back. But maybe when he faces Fury again for a trilogy, that flashes of the 2nd fight will be at this mind again and the result could be same. That is the thing with Fury, he can beat you with his mind games even before the actual fight and that's what he did against Wilder.

The only way that Andy Ruiz wins this is by decision and I do not think Wilder will let that happen. Wilder knocks down everyone and Ruiz is smaller then the normal people that go against Wilder.  I think Wilder finds this match up easy and knocks Andy out in 3 or 4 rounds. Then the only next step for Wilder would be against Joshua while Tyson Fury fights Uysk.