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Since 2019, Offers on chain/off chain betting. Spin your luck in Jackpot for 0.1 Hive. Native token called 'Gamer', staking it makes you eligible for 50% casino profits, can bet with Hive, Steem, Dec (Splinterlands currency) and Gamer. Plenty games including Dice, Blackjack, Video pocker, crash, roulette, slots, plinko.  Auto bet also available for applicable games.

Wager to get access to clubs and insure your bet. Higher the club, higher the number of insured bets. Max 10 hive/steem can be insured each bet.

Complete daily quests to earn hive. Verify the bets with 'Provably fair' section provided at top right corner of each game.  

Opinion:

Dividends are potato, insured amount is small, quests are time consuming. But, to have fun, it's great casino. If you are already on hive, you should give it a try.

Website: https://kryptogamers.com/

Blog: https://hive.blog/@kryptogames

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Edit: Insurance amount has been increased to 100 Hive.

Edit 2: Official Bitcointalk handle: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3530600

Edit 3: Sister site of Kryptogamers on Polygon: https://fortunekingz.com (Ann (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434940.msg62156092#msg62156092))

Normally, since I've registered on the forum I have been warned many times to stay away from projects that gives insane reward when staking their tokens and now that this is coming from a high  rank member I am so confused, are you saying you believe in this project or what? 50% is so unrealistic.

i have been inactive for a long time making posts on Hive blog but i still have some Hive in my wallet, it seems interesting to try the games in this casino, no KYC and it seems decentralized casino, i will try some games there to test it, regardless of the casino is safe or not i will monitor this thread  ;)

Half goes to casino and other half goes to token stakers , it's one of token utility, what's unrealistic?

It's not very popular in the gambling community because it's not a Bitcoin-based casino but on-chain casinos could be the next big thing in the casino industry, I also would like to see the potential of this on-chain casino, so why not give it a shot and update us, Hive is one of the projects that have potential to get in the top 20 it has many platforms associated with it.
For gamblers who want anonymity this on-chain casino platform will suit them.

Recently, I've seen some people here in forum asking for some casinos that doesn't require their people for KYC, having hive will be the best option for them , I just hope that if they will plan to add this verification soon I am hoping that they will make it a little more bigger limit than the other casinos.I am just not sure if this is the hive that has a bounty in year before.

On-Chain casinos used to be a big thing in the casinos' industry at the start of crypto gambling, there used to be sites like Satoshibones or Luckybit where users place bets direct sending X amount to the game address and they get the result of the bet to the address. But there was 2 problems with it.

1.-Time: Waiting for the block to see the bet result wasn't nice at all, it gives a bad experience to the users.
2.-Double Spends: These casinos used to let the users get the reward before the transaction gets a confirmation, and if the bet loses then the attacker could do a double spend to avoid losing his coins.

50% are going to be divided among the hundreds to thousands of its token stakers which may not be as profitable but if the casino gets tons of loyal users beating the top casinos, I think stakers will make money. This is almost the same with decentralized dividend casinos but because there are quests, it makes it a bit like p2e.

My concern is that it asks for Private key when you login to kryptogameapp.

yes I think there's nothing wrong with trying games at this casino because I still have some Hives that are not used so I can try the games there, who knows I'll be lucky to play at this new casino, even though it's not very popular at least they've been introduced in the forum this  ;)

The profit looks interesting and if there are Hive investors and gamblers this is a platform worth exploring for them, I don't like a platform that asks for private keys because it's against the basic and main rules of not your keys, not your coins/token, the platform is questionable if they are going to ask for private keys, I checked the casino there are two options to log in one is through hivesigner and hive keychain, I haven't explored this casino yet, but if the two options are asking for private keys, then its not worth playing in this kind of platform.

Correct, besides we must assume that the 50% comes from the profits the casino can generate and not its income, so before there is any kind of distribution of the funds the casino has, the casino can pay all their bills and once this is done then they can distribute half of the money that remains to those staking their coins, which means that if the casino gets no profits then no money is distributed at all, this makes the model not as unsustainable as it may seem at first sight.

I just heard of casinos using Hive to log in and gamble. I still prefer casinos that are already operating and I have used them for a long time. Still, they can be an option for gamblers who don't like registration like other casinos and only use their personal wallet to play gambling. This casino needs to make a promotion to make this casino more developed and can be more advanced and can get more members. But if they need more detailed information about that personal wallet, I don't think it's feasible unless we use a personal wallet that we specifically use to play gambling.

This Hive is steemit fork, pretty sure they haven't had any bounty.


Import your account into Hive signer/Hive keychain, then it's like metamask you approve transactions from there without exposing your private key.



Those are like authentication apps through which you access dapps. Both are open source on github.

Hive keychain: https://github.com/hive-keychain/hive-keychain-extension

Hive signer: https://github.com/ecency/hivesigner-sdk/


That's incorrect, whatever casino earns from house edge, 50% directly goes to house and other half to stakers. You can find dividend info under 'dividends' section of website.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/14/blob086d9cd2c462ea9d.jpeg

I invested in casino bankrolls some time ago, and I found it profitable, but I see a problem with it, that you have to give up your private keys for an extra return, and although it worked out well for me, I don't know if it's worth the risk.

Yesterday I talked about the Fun Token that freebitco.in promotes, giving you advantages for holding certain amounts, which at least for the first few months was less profitable than investing in bitcoin directly. The summary of everything is that I'm going to stop all this crap and I'm going to continue accumulating bitcoin, no tokens.

Already explained in the comment you quoted that you don't give your private keys. Keychain/hive signer is like metamask, you login into hive dapps and approve/reject transactions through it.

I would be careful on any website that says no KYC is required.

That decision isn't up to them and is up to the country they operate in.

KYC is a critical component of Anti Money Laundering laws and there is no way around it.

There isn't a single reputable company (Stake, BC.Game, Duelbit) that doesn't require KYC so please keep that in mind.

Hive and dapps under it seems to be off of government radar, may be that could be the reason. Anyhow, carefulness is required when there is possibility of getting funds stuck, kryptogamers is non-custodial.

Well, in fact, now many of the new and novice online casinos are doing this, which offer a kind of staking for users and return part of the profit from betting to players in the form of tokens that are used for betting.

Not really unrealistic as long as they have a platform to speak of, and this is profit sharing casino
they are talking of profit sharing, not APY percentage, so depending on the profit of the casino, you need to stake their native token, this what Betfury is doing they are sharing their profit on their token investors, so this is not something new and nothing to be alarm with.

On-chain betting is not required "KYC"

Because they are doing it in the smart-contract and everything is automatically by the chain. But the less advantage by betting on the chain is:
- You have a limited option game (Most the time offering Lottery & Dice)
- You need to do the transaction for each betting

You can try to look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1492457.0

If the country where they operate requires it then I think the casino will give a notice first. They will allow their players to withdraw their funds and let them decide if they will continue there by doing a KYC or not. Not just they automatically apply it because that seems unprofessional but they still can do some KYC surprises for some occasions.

If we are in doubt about it then much better if we can just play on a fully decentralized casino since I think they are the ones who will never ask for a KYC but they might be inaccessible because the governments will just ban them since they can't do anything to add KYC on them and criminals will use them the most.

because your profit depends on the performance of the casino token itself. if the price is not improving or have very slow progress, better get out and look for more valuable coins like btc.

now, on the note of the site, kryptogamers, they are using the HIVE network, so it is understandable that they should not require KYC from its customers.

Basing on Don Pedro situation on where it is really that dumb for someone to give out his private keys for some extra return which is bullshit yet this do consider out to be having the full access
and control of those coins inside of that wallet on that given private keys. Gambling site investment is profitable if you are really that going for those top or known coins
but speaking about their dedicated gambling platform tokens then it isnt something that looks interesting for me and this is why i do mostly
skip out and ignore these stuffs.

They need to accept Bitcoin payment and then promoting their casino in this forum, if they're professional and serious enough, I believe they could become the next big casino. Currently there's not many casino which offer bankroll investment, only few old casino still offer it.

Also many users are really care with their privacy, everyone will very welcome with zero KYC casino. They just need to be active, don't scam, be transparent and improve their casino.

This casino exists since 2019, but I've never heard anything about it. Does it have an old announcement thread in the Gambling forum?
I'm too lazy to search right now. I thought that this is an announcement thread, but it seems that OP is simply making a short review(or probably promoting the casino). I'm surprised that the Steemit and Hive tokens are still alive. Having a casino to allow deposits of such tokens seems like an interesting idea. Most of the Steemit and Hive.blog users would just earn tokens on these platforms and sell them for other crypto. Anyway, this casino seems too suspicious to me and I wouldn't bet my coins there.

When you approve transaction is metamask, do you give  away your pvk?


Fyi, I ain't affiliated with kryptogamers. I played there, enjoyed it, decided to create post about it as hive itself is lesser known blockchain, dapps on it even more so.

Regarding, BTC support — it's less likely. However, 'pegged BTC' is possible if team decides so.


It's hive based so it was announced on hive blog, profile linked in op.


It's short review. Steemit and Hive are active blockchains, dunno why people think otherwise.

If this casino has been around for a long time but is not well known by many gamblers, especially friends here, maybe it's because this casino doesn't offer big promotions like other casinos and prefers to promote underground. Maybe it's good for the casino to keep the attention away from the government who wants to ask something from them so they can still operate without any supervision from the government. Hopefully, a representative from the casino will come to this forum and provide the latest updates about the casino.

Well, the problem of the lack of widespread popularity of many online casinos using tokens, where there is no KYC, although many players prefer casinos without KYC, but the need to connect their wallet to the site every time repels many, since you can get just to some phishing site, for example.

I'm fine with Kyc procedures especially the casino has a good reputation. The only risk involve in this process is that your identities might be used on things without your consent right? But that I think would be somehow impossible. There are as well many advantages of it which I lately realized such as not allowing quick withrawals in connection with hacked accounts. Also, it would limit those players (depends on the kyc requirement 'coz IDs could be somewhat faked) especially minors to be able to play in casinos. From engaging to many sites with KYC, I had no problem so far so maybe it just depends on the sites you are choosing. A site with no kyc is not enough I guess to be interesting to the eyes of players.

This is the problem with decentralized, some platform is not worthy of connecting your wallet since there’s still a risk on that. Also, their marketing affects their reputation, I’m not familiar with this platform and maybe they are not here in the forum as they have no official representative to market their project. Maybe they can also consider this forum as their marketing place so we can know if this is a good site and raise our concern. Having no KYC in crypto gambling still prefer by many, but of course it will still depend on a site.

^ Decentralized casino or no KYC is very attractive to gamblers that want to hide their privacy for their own purpose and I also like this idea. Yes, they are using smart contracts when you want to gamble, there is no need to deposit and all you have to do is connect your wallet. Now, you are worried about that fishing site, you can simply bookmark the gambling website so that it is easy for you to look back, and use a dummy wallet account when you want to connect to the casino, not your main wallet. In that way, you can protect your wallet form possible phishing sites.

Also, if you still want to use that decentralized casino, you have to install one other wallet that you only use to gamble in that casino.
You can get security as long as you are connected to the casino and do not have to worry if the wallet is hacked one day because you don't have any of your other money.
That way, you can save all your assets or money in your main wallet so there will be no problem.
But the casino must really be able to prove that their casino is really safe from hacking and they can protect the casino from various attacks that might come later.

For me casinos asking for KYC requirements is not a difficult thing for me to do and I will be happy to make KYC.
But not all casinos, I only register and play at trusted casinos and already have a good reputation and are known by many gamblers around the world.
If some of the casinos I use ask for KYC when depositing or withdrawing large amounts, I won't hesitate to give it because I myself have confidence and trust the casino so it doesn't make me think that the casino will use my personal data to take actions that are not wanted.
But it seems more gamblers like casinos without KYC and it's their choice and passion so we shouldn't think about it too much.

Yeah!  Exactly! 
A huge number of gamblers prefer to remain anonymous when playing in one or another casino.  Especially when it comes to deposits and bets in cryptocurrencies.  Millions of players have many reasons why they are unwilling, unable, or afraid to provide casinos with their personal data under the KYC procedure.  These are family circumstances and circumstances at work, finally a person lives in a country where there are bans on gambling and so on.  The list of circumstances can be continued and it is huge indeed. 

So the non-KYC casino sector in the global online casino market must of course be as huge as the number of such players who wish to remain anonymous. 
These are exactly hundreds of millions of players from different countries and continents!!!

I don't see any section related to FAQs or Terms of Service. Does this site have that? Also, are you associated with them? Are you the owner? Or what?
How do withdrawal and betting work with this kind of casino?

If this is the official thread for the website, good luck and welcome.

I will admit I am surprised this is the case as literally the casino has to survive with just half of its income and then pay taxes on top of that in whatever jurisdiction in which they may be located, this makes the model way less sustainable and I hope that whoever is staking their coins is very careful about this as they will never know when the casino will simply not obtain enough profits to sustain itself and just disappear out of nowhere.

I ain't associated with them, all they have is hive blog and discord.

It's on-chain meaning for each bet smart contract is executed (you have to confirm this interaction through your hive wallet first), in case of win you will be paid out to your wallet directly.

There is no third party holding funds for you, all action happens on blockchain.

Actually an online casino kryptogamers.com it was created around the Hive token and it does not support bitcoin, it is also allowed to discuss everything that was created around bitcoin, it is strange that the thread was not transferred to the Service Announcements (Altcoins) board.

One can create tokens on hive, just like wbtc on ethereum. That's what I meant by 'pegged BTC'.

Thread is about casino, gambling board seemed appropriate. Where is it written that only  BTC casinos are allowed to be discussed here? You can always report.

Thanks @libert19 for posting as all your answers are correct. For those who are not aware of us, here's a brief introduction of Kryptogamers Casino:

Kryptogamers.com is a Provably Fair Non-Custodial Casino built on Hive Blockchain on 2019. In simple words, anyone with a Hive account and a Metamask-like wallet such as "Hive Keychain" can play on Kryptogamers without ever having to deposit a single penny. As all transactions on Hive Blockchain are free and have a block-time of only 3 seconds, games can be played directly through your "Hive Keychain" wallet with ZERO risk of private key exposure OR locked funds as funds are in YOUR wallet (No Deposit/Withdraw) at all times and all winnings are instantly transferred to your wallet.

Regarding Profit Sharing, we give away 50% of all Gross Profits based on House Edge of each game (Varies from 0.5% - 5%) to all our players daily at 8:30 AM UTC proportionately based on their staked gamer tokens.

We also have the option of custodial funds for players who prefer quick seamless user experience play on mobile over a bit unfriendly user experience which comes with non custodial wallets.

Support: We have a Discord channel support through which we resolve all your queries/issues within maximum 24 hours.

Our website: https://kryptogamers.com/
Our Discord: https://discord.gg/KpFUZh2

Feel free to ask us anything regarding Kryptogamers or gambling in general as we ourselves are degen gamblers.

The casino you described appears to be a blockchain-based platform that offers a variety of games and allows for betting with cryptocurrency; somehow, it seems suspicious as well because it cannot be trusted fully.
Therefore, it's a good idea to research and read reviews before trying out any online casinos.

This casino was based on the crypto currency based platform,So players can use the gambling to use their holding crypto currency.The only way to double or triple the crypto currency is by doing the correct way of trading on the exact crypto currency.But due to more website for casino,it’s very hard to trust this fully.So the users should use the background verification before using of any casino,whether is based on crypto currency or based on normal fiat.Crypto currency based casino is more profitable as compared to the casino based on fiat.

You forgot the mention one of the most important con of on-chain games, and that is the issue of transactions fees and possible delays in getting a confirmation when the network is congested.
The above can give a gambler a really bad experience, most especially the part that the gambler will have to pay transaction fees every bet, whether they win or not, and if the transaction is high, this can be said to be another loss altogether.

You are making assumptions without having first hand experience.

Transactions on hive are instant and free. I don't remember hive ever being congested, feel free to warm me up if I'm wrong.

I was just curious I see in the terms that "The Casino reserves the right to close the Duplicate Account without any prior notice and/or obligation to state a reason." how are they going to confirm that? Also, would they be able to block the account if just in case it is duplicated. I like the fact that it is not a KYC casino though and you can still play slots. Anyway, I think this is not the section of this ANN thread as it does not offer Bitcoin to place bet.

Though I would like to try it as I think I have HIVE left in my old wallet.

well this is what I think at the moment. when casinos don't require KYC when they want to bet, how can the casino know if gamblers use multiple accounts. even though to find out multi accounts usually use KYC as verification whether the accounts are from the same person.

and if indeed this casino doesn't require KYC, what if one day the gambler wins big from the casino? will also be asked for KYC or not?
because there are some casinos that say they don't need KYC but after getting a big win they have to do KYC and the process usually takes a long time.

For some reason there are lots of gamblers who really prefer casinos without KYC and for now there are also many casinos that do implement regulations without KYC so that gamblers can choose from one of these casinos.
I myself don't really believe that I'm afraid to use casinos without KYC because in my opinion some casinos without KYC definitely have great opportunities to commit fraud or scams, but this is just my fear or my personal suggestion.
But I'm sure that as time goes by, more and more casinos will provide KYC requirements in the future, so like it or not, every gambler has to do it.

People here keep forgetting that it's an on-chain casino. If you win - no matter the amount (max amount you can bet is already proportional to funds available in casino's wallet), so your winnings are transferred instantaneously.

if that's done it means it's not fully decentralized so the owner can close the user's account if he makes a duplicate account without notification, maybe it's done so there's no abuse that usually happens in every casino, I think without KYC it's quite fun and I think as long as it's not breaking the rules all is well

Those people have their own choices, and if they believe they can double or triple their crypto money through gambling, they do it anyway and try to make more crypto money. But if they can think for a long time that gambling will not be able to give more wins than losses, they will look for other ways to double their money, and trading is one of the ways that many people have used. And I agree that before we play at a certain casino, we have to find out more about the casino so we don't get scammed.

I haven't tried Kryptogamers yet, I just looked at this game casino platform and I just noticed that there are few purchases in your slots games.

Besides that, there is no baccarat, which is one of the things I often play in crypto gambling. And is another Hive blog a forum platform? I haven't tried to create an account, but maybe later I will try to create one.

Hive is blockchain, hive.blog is blogging platform to earn Hive.

Check this post: What's hive and how does it work (https://hive.blog/hivebasics/@pitboy/what-is-hive-and-how-does-it-work-a-beginner-s-guide)

Really? I read this link you gave me and I got interested in creating an account here on the hiveblog you are talking about.

    So when I went why were there so many sign-up shopping? the others have a fee and the other two are free just for free with email and verify phone numbers. I'm just confused by what I saw. With the free sign-up, do I still have a chance to gain Hive here?

Yea, all work same. Paid service don't have mail/phone verification and free ones do to mitigate 'free service' abuse.

OP I really do not think your casino offer is feasible.  At first looking at your percentage  profit  looks scammy. You can not be giving out such percentage of casino profits to stakers just like that how about winners of in your platform and isn't that percentage too much for just stakers alone?  Now going by your topic, does it mean that you do not conduct kyc for your customers upon getting registered onboard your casino? Is it clearly stated in your terms and conditions as well as policy? Or you have a certain level of withdrawal that one would do that requires they doing kyc. I think you should come up plain instead of all these tales you have written here because most casinos does such by telling people to register no kyc but upon winning and withdrawal, they start seeing faults and issues with ones account the next thing is to tag account and saying account holder is suspected to have default casino policy all these funny attitude of casinos these day seems very laughable.

Same questions, same answers. Go through comments, you'll get your answers.

Yes, I like this choice of gambling house, I have experience with a casino that has its own currency but I don't like what they have done and I want to get my money out of there and exchange it for bitcoin, I feel like I lost money there. What I gained was experience with those casinos with their coins and what I try to avoid is falling back into those mistakes because I don't want to lose my investment because it's annoying, and it's also nice to give other casinos a chance to see how they develop, it would be ideal if forum members could give positive reviews, that helps a lot.

Before I even go to privacy policy. I am concerned about this clause in the terms of service


If this is a no KYC casino, then what do we call asking for proof of age? How is it going to be done minus KYC verification?

Sure, I could be 12, and we asked which year I was born, and I would just say 1970.

Sounds right. Player experience on kryptogamers and their terms seems to contradict a bit. I'm myself confused tbh. Let's see what @Kryptogamers replies.

Maybe according to them asking for proof of age is not KYC because they think that KYC is personal identification information such as names and so on, but we don't know what the answer and the main reason is from asking for proof of age but they claim that it's not casino KYC.
This kind of thing will become a conversation and debate if he doesn't say and provide the right explanation.
In fact, if you only ask for proof of age without providing KYC or clear identity, I'm sure many users will manipulate it because even KYC, which is clear about identity, can still be manipulated, especially if this is just proof of age.

Proof of age is used to make sure the user isn't a minor, so the casino might not allow the user to play if he's not at least 18 years old. If he's lying, then it's his own risk to gambling and the casino doesn't responsible about that because they've done to make sure the gambler is a matured person.

Age is one of KYC, but it's just really generic and I don't think they will know you if you're just giving how old you're.

Please find below the answers to some of the common questions:

1) If a player wins big, will the casino ask for KYC ?
Ans: Since Kryptogamers is primarily a non-custodial casino on Hive blockchain (HIVE offers free and instant transactions), all player's non-custodial winnings are transferred instantly and free of cost to the player's Hive wallet without requiring any kind of KYC whatsoever. It is not possible for us to ever ask for KYC for the non-custodial section because we are not in control of your Hive blockchain account and therefore cannot suspend or do anything about it.

2) Why is proof of age required if casino does not require KYC ?
Ans: Apart from the non-custodial section, we also have a custodial section of games for custodial wallet players who prefer better user experience and instant gameplays as each non-custodial game-result takes approx 3 seconds (which is Hive block time) while custodial game results are instant (<1 second). However, if you are playing custodial games, the proof-of-age and other documents maybe required only if the law enforcement requests come in for your specific account. Uptill now (4+ years), we have received only 1 request to suspend a custodial Hive account and that person had 0 balance in his wallet. Having said that, we are a privacy friendly casino since 4+ years and have never asked for KYC nor do we intend to ask for KYC unless absolutely required by law.

Hope this answers your major questions. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions.

at least you giving an answer like this will clear up a lot of people's misunderstandings, I'm also happy to see your response to the questions the community has asked in this thread, hopefully it clears up the misunderstanding about KYC in your casino, I'd love to play there spending some HIVE on my old account  ;)

Your answers are direct and plain. These are what we want to see in a casino terms and conditions if the need be so that there would not be any issues with members in future. Most casino do not really do this they only wait for when a gamble wins bid then they come for kyc and the rest of the other documents to making sure they find fault on the gamblers account so they do not give out the winners award. This you have done is quite alright. You did well be stating it clear for better understanding. I hope there would not be any form of deviation from what you have just stated here.

But the truth is that many minors also start gambling and they use school pocket money to be able to play or bet.
The real problem is not that they are underage to manipulate age and then the casino will not be held responsible if something happens to them.
You can see and understand that any casino will not be responsible for what happens to any of its users, they do not know they are underage or mature, if something undesirable happens, it is clear that they are at their own risk and why do gambling if not want to risk losing everything.

  -   This is the first time I have read that there is a non-custodial crypto casino under the hive blockchain. That's why it's not surprising that it doesn't require KYC for your players.

I was curious about Hive, that's why I researched and found out what it is, and I found through the link given by Op that it is also a forum platform where you have the opportunity to earn Hive tokens.

And at this point I like him and there is potential in the future as well, that's why I'm still aware of it until now before I start too.

from these two answers I conclude that it is likely that this casino is right not asking for KYC for betting and when wanting to withdraw funds from the casino.
but if later there is a problem or the casino suspects unusual activity on the account KYC will be requested. is my statement true?

if it's true it has become a natural thing. because in other casinos that don't ask for KYC if there is any suspicious activity on a certain customer's account, they will usually ask for KYC to solve the problem.

but if my statement is wrong please let me know.

Untrue. Read the first statement.

As long as you use non-custodial betting there is no question of kyc since there is no middle-man to hold your funds and ask for kyc.

Thanks for the clarification. So, in other words, the casino is 2 in 1. The custodial and the non-custodial section. I hope customers are made aware that once they use the custodial section, they may be subject to KYC on request by law enforcement otherwise it may lead to unending disputes

I also wanted to ask why you guys can't make this announcement thread a little bit more attractive with graphics, or is it not your official announcement thread?

It should have been made formally with the right format as other ANN threads unless it isn't their offcial announcement thread yet.
Anyway, KYCs should also be expected because even casinos that announce that they won't require it will still ask for proof of address or age so the purpose would almost be the same so we can't avoid KYCs that easily. I guess we should just accept the fact that KYC is almost mandatory nowadays.

with many governments campaigning against money laundering, casinos and banks and everyone who provides a service involving money are obliged to ask customers to do KYC, until 4 years ago casinos, exchanges and various things did not ask for KYC, it was a time when people had freedom, but this was a small market 4 years ago, it did not attract much attention from governments

today someone thinks that they will be in a casino and that they will not be asked for KYC, that person is very wrong, they are making a serious mistake, all people who use a casino must be prepared to eventually have to do KYC, so they should not be mistaken, the weather in which we had anonymity is ending unfortunately

Everything cant really escape on governments radar or simply into their eyes if we do speak about money or something that correlates to it.If things turns out to be big then it isnt something that they couldn't really

just let it pass or something that they wont really regulate.This is why expect the unexpected because they wouldnt really slip it away and its true that if we do tend to compare on what those things happen in the past.Then it is really gradually changing as of this moment on which regulation and restrictions becomes even more tighter.

If you are a business owner whose really that in connected about money or something like that then you would really be tangled up with these regulations which you dont really have any choice.

KYC can be considered in two ways: it is weak like this one, it is clear that the company just wants to tick the box and comply with regulation but does not really expect trouble from that front. Strong KYC are a proof of people doing serious business in serious jurisdictions. It is not a great idea to join a site that does not make an effort to comply.

No, it's not official ann.


Stick to non-custodial section.


Brave of you to completely ignore non-custodial section where it's not possible for them to ask for kyc in first place.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434940.msg61770354#msg61770354

That's parent/guardian's responsibility.

Things like that have happened a lot, not only in my environment but also out there, there must have been a lot of underage children who started gambling. I don't know where they can understand gambling from. holding their own cellphone so they can find gambling information until they dare to try it.
Casinos are a business and they offer gambling venue services to anyone even minors who enter to play they cannot possibly limit and be responsible because after all that includes their customers.
This mistake did not come from the casino but from the insight of their parents because they could not supervise and limit their children when they did everything including gambling.
The best way to stop this is for parents to always pay attention to the overall activities of their children and provide positive things or activities so that they forget about gambling and don't return to gambling.

I think that it's already verified and cleared that they've answered that it's not possible for them to ask KYC. Only if some authorities that asks for specific detail of yours from their casino, they'll hand it over to them. But as said, they don't have much request from authorities and up to date, they only got one. Well, this is based on the answer that the owner/rep has said on the #2. It's interesting to see that they're a privacy friendly casino just as what the answers they have provided above.

It is a good move so they can also control illegal activities and fraud in their casino. Those who seek privacy and security can rely on their site because most casinos nowadays always require KYC even after anouncing that they will not require KYC. At least they are honest that there's still a possibility that they will require KYC in some cases.

But still, people tend to risk their funds in exchange for relative anonymity, and yes, KYC on the one hand should seem to guarantee the security of players' funds, but on the other hand there are many examples of fraudulent online casinos with strict KYC, including.

This is cool and nice to stake on because of the rewards even though the rewards look unrealistic then since it's a no kyc casino members may try to use the services to enjoy other features aside from the staking due to risks.

But let me welcome you to the forum and wish you the best of luck as you journey through the forum.

When we try to find a good and trustworthy casino there are many, the problem is that they require KYC, there is no doubt about that, I have also seen how some casinos start and try not to enforce KYC, but it becomes a problem because if there is no a KYC requirement implies that the licenses are not complete and this causes problems with some players because they do not accept the casino, they say it is not trustworthy.

What few know is that these licenses originate to be accountable to government agencies, that's why I don't defend the KYC requirements very much, and for this reason it's obvious that I will never agree, that's why I see KYC as a Double-edged sword, everything related to Crypto must be handled under a privacy environment, but how to make an entire community of players understand this?

They dare to risk money and dare to take risks just for the sake of being able to gamble anonymously and not needing to provide KYC, but for me it is a slightly risky choice and tends to make our money disappear if we choose the wrong casino without KYC.
Having KYC does not only guarantee the security of player funds but can also give more trust to the casino that has been used.
Indeed there are some casinos with quite strict KYC but they still commit fraud but it seems there are not many and only a few do it.

I disagree. KYC doesn't guarantee security to be honest with you. If hackers hack into the site, they could easily acquire your KYC details and spread it wherever they want to which could screw you in various ways.

Personally, I didn't provide my KYC yet in any crypto gambling site that I gamble in and I have withdrawn thousands of dollars so far without any issues.

actually not all gamblers have the same view on this KYC issue, because we know that each one has different thoughts, after all, whoever gives KYC to the casino certainly understands the risks, I also think maybe KYC doesn't guarantee security because like you also say, maybe the site was hacked and shared all user information including KYC, but again that everyone has their own wishes, there is no compulsion in this case everyone can choose whether they want to play at a casino that uses KYC or not, so far I have also played casinos not used KYC and everything is safe withdrawing hundreds of dollars because I'm just a small gambler

KYC is something that casinos are starting to require, especially for suspicious accounts by casinos because casinos want to know the background of those accounts. But the request to do KYC for each member is still random. So if something happens with someone's data, the casino should be responsible for protecting the identity or KYC details of its users because they are the ones asking them to do KYC. And when we as users are asked to do KYC, we should know the risks in submitting our detailed information to third parties, in this case, casinos. And I also like playing gambling in casinos that don't require KYC for their users.

Casinos won't be able to protect your KYC information once hackers successfully penetrate their security systems. This is why so many gamblers including me worry about providing our KYC.

KYC shouldn't be mandatory and it should be enforced only if they legitimately find something suspicious or for big withdrawals.

Most of platforms that we do have today on which they arent asking out some KYC on the time that you do make out some registration but most of their terms and conditions do really have
stated about possible verification if ever they would be seeing some suspicious activity or some violation which is really that pretty common nowadays.The thing that we should really avoid
is into those platforms who do really ask out for some kyc on the time that you do register which i do directly turn my back on the time i do encounter
this kind of platforms.

Unfortunately, this is not an option for licensed casinos. Regulations and rules are becoming more and more strict especially when big amounts of money is involved. Casinos or any other crypto-service providershave to comply with them if they don't want to face any legal issues and get sanctioned.
For customers, the only advantage of having a KYCed account is that you can your identification documents to recover your account in case you lose access to it.

It should be the casino's responsibility to protect the data of customers who have done KYC so there are no worries from their customers. After all, we as gamblers need to feel safe and comfortable when playing gambling at casinos, so casinos must know this and try their best to provide what they can for their customers.

KYC is not mandatory at this time, but over time and the government wants to know more about each user who plays gambling will tighten the regulations regarding KYC. And it will keep those who want to cheat from doing so because it means their account is at risk of being frozen by the casino.

Not all licensed casinos enforce mandatory KYC. For example, I have been gambling at sites like Stake, Crypto.Games etc from a long time and they never asked me to submit KYC so far.

True. More and more sites need to comply with government rules and regulations in order to survive, but they don't need to enforce mandatory KYC to survive.

         -   Maybe not all crypto casinos that implement no KYC are unlicensed. Just for example at bit casino, I often play on this platform, and I think I have experienced winning different amounts here about 3 times the highest I won was around 222$ and when I took it out I won I was not asked for KYC to withdraw this amount. I just waited a few hours before it was transferred to the address I gave in the withdrawal.

Although there are often other casinos that will say no kyc but in terms of withdrawing a large amount of winning suddenly require KYC from the gambler which sometimes leads to a complaint because suddenly the issue is account was being blocked. This is the casino that probably has a problem with legality or something.

for older popular and licensed casinos like Stake.com etc they don't require KYC unless absolutely necessary to solve a serious problem.
but it seems that for a new and licensed casino they say they don't require KYC but when a customer gets a big win the casino asks the customer to send KYC and it has happened several times.

but after all, a licensed casino will definitely require KYC whenever needed.

Yeah!  Whenever someone starts playing in a new casino that does not require KYC, any player must clearly understand that if he wins some sufficiently large amount of money, and in any cryptocurrency at the current exchange rate for dollars, then he will inevitably  will require KYC.  You just have to be constantly ready for it. 
So that this does not come as an unpleasant surprise to you.  And here it is useless to argue with support, because they will immediately answer you that the casino has no right to violate the law.  And so you can simply lose your winnings if it is critical for you to remain anonymous in your games. 

I recommend that all players do not take the lack of KYC when registering at a new casino seriously and hope that you will never be asked to actually log in through KYC.

You are right that KYC does not guarantee security but if the casino is truly registered and regulated, it's a better bargain for you than without KYC. Of course, no website is completely immune from hacking, am only disappointed that you guys are taking this as an excuse instead of looking elsewhere to the benefits of KYC.

If a website is new, my dear, you are talking 50/50 chance with them if they are without KYC. Because without it, it means they are not regulated. But you have higher rest of mind if they are truly regulated.

At least having KYC can make me believe that even their casino can prove its authenticity and has a license that aims to obtain a legal permit for the casino so that it can further minimize acts of fraud or fraud committed by the casino.
Regarding security against hacking, indeed KYC cannot be a guarantee of security. However, if the casino that we use is a big and well-known casino, then it is very rare for a hack to occur because they clearly have a team that is responsible for security and provides protection on all website address devices so that it's not easy for someone to hack their casino and I'm sure casino owners are willing to spend big money to hire people who are truly experts in the field of security to keep their casino business running.
After all, most of the well-known and well-established casinos definitely impose KYC on their every use.

Maybe i am missing something but i can't find any info about this "Gamer" token. No tokenomics, not even info how can i buy it or should i mine it somehow?
But without tokenomics how would i even know is it worth to mine it as supply can be unlimited for all i can tell.
Site looks good though. Sleek minimalistic graphics so points for that.

Perhaps do I --but It is understandable to feel hesitant about investing in a token when there is a lack of information available about its tokenomics and acquisition methods. Without knowing the tokenomics, it is difficult to assess the potential value of the token and make an informed decision on whether or not to invest in it. Perhaps it is good to reach out to the team behind the "Gamer" token and ask for more information about its tokenomics and how to acquire it. They may be able to provide more information that could help you make a decision about whether or not to invest.

But like seriously, is this really something that one should be reaching out to the team for, a team that created a project and also developed a token to govern the project should already know the importance of tokenomics and also have it in mind to make this information public and accessible to every one including potential investors.

For me, I think its best to stay away from investing in a token like this, at least, until the team behind it begin showing some seriousness in ensuring that the project succeeds, this is because buying the token now, though cheap, is more risky as this project might end up as an abadoned project and those who bought the tokens now will end up loosing their money.

Check blog: https://hive.blog/@kryptogames

Nonetheless here are quick answers,

Gamer token info: https://hive.blog/steem/@kryptogames/kryptogamers-collaborates-with-steem-engine-upcoming-token-launch-details

You can mine gamer tokens by staying on top of leaderboard.

Exchange: https://leodex.io/market/GAMER


Op has literally link to official blog where you could check all details, also mentioned on site dashboard >> Gamer Tokens.


Read the blog linked in op.

Excuse? Nonsense. 50/50 chance without KYC? More nonsense. I already specifically mentioned in my previous post that I have been gambling at several popular sites without providing KYC at any stage.

Also, no KYC requirement and features such as great offers, great customer support etc are what truly make crypto gambling sites popular. Think!

They have thought about PVP games, because they have poker, I don't know if they have to do a lot to be able to play poker among several people, and also if they can do PVP tournaments, I also say this because I have been looking for many sites that have poker with that functionality , and if they put that, it would be the best thing because I am sure that many will want to participate, online tournaments can be scheduled for certain hours, so they have the follow-up of each tournament and assign the prizes that correspond to the first places, there is no loss there.

They have riddle game, which you can play solo or with friends, It's free and have leaderboard rewards (in Gamer).

Regarding mp poker, I like the idea, always found mp games fun. Depends on dev whether they add it as tournaments might add bit of burden to them, and for normal mp, hive don't have that much of active userbase, casino active players even less so.

Nonsense? I can see the level of your maturity, children are not hard to know as they don't know how to tame their emotions. Regards of your rants, I maintain that KYC has its protective advantage if you can trace the casino right to the root of its true regulator, it's a layer of security on both sides (gambler and the house) whether you like it or not, it's not about hacking as any website could be hacked.

And I don't care about how many times you had withdrawn from no-KYC casinos, many have been scammed by them too, so what's your point child? Grow up!

I think a big sign that says NO KYC, should be taken with a grain of salt or ignored.

The Casinos that they can really fulfill that requirement for the players (100%), since this is not a favor, they are very few, so, if I write it again:

Know Your Casino:
Casinos that Comply with No KYC for users are few. And they are on the verge of extinction.

What does exist are new conditions in how they are being applied, it can be said that in "some Casinos" there are established amounts and they manage to maintain a deposit and withdrawal standard for players who require no KYC.

We are at a stage where the offer is so varied and competitive, that there is a lot to choose from, the promotions, the VIP systems, the Trust, etc.

Then, the No KYC, results in an easy promotion, which surely is not linked to the experience positve of user.



On the other hand, under this system that is presented in Hive, it is to see even platforms in the equivalence of YouTube, Poker, for example. I think this had its peak in the years 2016-2017-2018, where later the value of its Tokens fell to the bottom.

For example and that I remember there without using GS, D-Tube. Interesting, if I remember correctly, the likes meant payments (or something like that) directly to your wallet.

No license casino offered a NO KYC while a legitimate casino ask for KYC in order to protect you and thier casino as well. But we must always remember that if we are playing in a no KYC casino then we are in risky even though not all Unlicencse casino id scammer but they are many unlicense casino who scam gamblers. So for me Ill prefer to play in the casino who is trusted for many years even though they will ask for KYc.

But for me, just the opposite - I play calmly and with pleasure only in a casino that does not require KYC.

 I really dislike these identity checks and the provision of documents! 
Especially when it comes to casinos with payments in cryptocurrency.  In this case, by providing your personal data several times, you are almost guaranteed to inform the whole world that you own cryptocurrency.  The reason for this is simple and banal.  Leaks of personal data are constantly happening and no one can ever give a real guarantee that a particular casino will not be hacked by hackers and will not steal the data of players who have passed KYC.  And if someone promises strict confidentiality of personal data, then he is lying, there are no such guarantees.  No one can guarantee this 100%.  And it’s not for nothing that the darknet is filled with such lists. 

So KYC is only harm and an extra trouble for any person. 
This is how I think.

We have different aspects and different way of understanding so like you said you are right about that and yes if we give our personal details which some casino ask for then it seems that we show our selves in the whole world that we have crypto currencies. But for me as my experience then it's still okay that I will give some of my information to withdraw my money, but I will give only to those trusted casino for how many years.

True,  KYC requirement doesn't guaranteed any form of regulation of any online casinos, there is no way a gambling platform will prove to users that they are regulated, many scam projects have stolen users KYC information and they don't know it, these criminals have other use for peoples identity.

At first, I always thought that KYC is the answer, the answer to fraud and other bullshits from platforms, later I found out that KYC requirement could be an idea to scare some people off after they win some money or they have other use for the information they acquired from people. 

Not all gamblers feel at a loss and get into trouble regarding a KYC.
There are some gamblers who actually don't mind and they easily provide KYC to the casinos they use because they believe the personal data that has been provided will not be misused.
There are also gamblers who don't bother looking for casinos without KYC that are trusted and can be relied upon, so they choose the most popular casinos with KYC to make it easier and faster to use casinos without having to think about it and reset before using the casino.
Maybe you can come to such a conclusion because you yourself don't like KYC and mind if the casino knows personal data because you want to gamble anonymously in a crypto casino.

KYC is a problem for those who use multiple casino platforms, there are difficulties filling in all the data. While those using one platform or only a few, can e en be in favor of KYC service, since it guarantees a bit more security at least in fiat money sector. That's why, I think, in some time both KYC and non-KYC algorithms will be offered by most platforms at the same time, so that it will balance the demands in both groups of gamblers.

Kyc can disguise himself in many ways, but obviously this came from a requirement of governments or government entities and it is something that he does not like to walk, however we as players sometimes understand that not even Casinio himself is to blame for things how the kyc is implemented, the licenses, the permits, everything requires documentation, and sometimes the jkyc disguises it by saying that it is a security measure so that at the time of a possible hack they can recover the person's funds, that is something that I don't conceive, because in crypto there should never be kyc, that goes against the natural laws of crypto.

KYC in crypto casinos is still the pros and cons to date. Indeed, the natural law of crypto is anonymous or it is not clear who owns it, but if I look at some of the cases that have occurred, I consider all of these problems.
indeed casinos shouldn't require KYC for their customers considering crypto is so anonymous. but if the casino doesn't ask for KYC, how can the casino detect customers using money laundering?
on the other hand licensed casinos already have agreements with licensing companies to require KYC from every customer.

maybe this is a little off topic but this is just a real example like the ChipMixer case which is currently being confiscated by the state because of a case where someone mixed bitcoin there even though the funds were the result of a money laundering crime. it is like when a person gambles in a casino using money laundering and if the police investigates the case the funds stop at that casino. wouldn't that also hurt the casino?
of all these problems it's up to everyone whether to do KYC or not because these are still pros and cons.

Wouldn't it be fine if gamblers gave KYC to several different casinos that gamblers used?
But if the gambler has more than one account at one casino then that will make it difficult for the gambler to provide KYC because it is impossible for the gambler to provide the same personal identity for more than one account at one casino.
If the casino that the gambler uses is different, in my opinion, it is legal for the gambler to give KYC to all the casinos that are used. Obviously many KYC and non KYC algorithms are offered by all existing casinos because gamblers always have different choices so they can determine which casino to use.

Gamblers gotta hit with that KYC info to keep the game legit and block any shady moves. Philosophically speaking, we should aim for that crystal-clear transparency and realness, particularly when the stakes are high. But, I get how rocking multiple accounts at one casino might make the KYC game a bit trickier.

Imagine if we cooked up a wicked solution like a global KYC system for all the casinos to adopt! Picture it like a passport to ride the casino wave, no matter where you're at. To crank up the fun factor, we could have a wild KYC photo booth for your one-of-a-kind picture to use as your all-access KYC pass. That'd be straight fire, right?!

If you are too afraid to do KYC even in a trusted casino, you don't need to use big money to play gambling and you may not even need to play gambling at all.
And by playing gambling using small money, you don't need to do KYC because even if you win, your winnings probably won't be too big so you can withdraw the winning money.
But if you start to use big money, especially if you are new to the casino, the casino may ask you to do KYC.
So playing gambling in crypto casinos is a choice for us and doing KYC is also our choice so that if we are asked one day to do KYC, we are ready to do it.

This a typical example of why I believe people don't know the reason for KYC as I've read many kicking against it simply because they lie it could protect them from hacking. Who is saying KYC will protect anyone from hacking? it's your cyber security that will do that for you. What KYC does is to be sure that the person holding the account is what he says he is. And this is in turn creating a better society for us to the advantage of the gambler, the company and the government for security and accountability.

Only insensitive and selfish people that don't mean well for the society would kick against KYC.

It's true that the issue has pros and cons, but you got it wrong by saying casinos must not ask for KYC due to the anonymity of crypto. First, it's not all cryptos transactions that are anonymous, and casinos are companies, not crypto itself, they are only using the crypto as a payment system.

In a sane world, all their activities must be accounted for as a company to avoid illicit flows, so that argument is invalid. Crypto will always act as online money, but the activities of those using it as a payment system for deposit and withdrawal should be regulated.

maybe you misunderstood what I said.

I did say that casinos shouldn't ask their customers for KYC, but after that I told the truth that casinos ask for KYC based on agreements with licensing companies to analyze gamblers who use money laundering funds to gamble in casinos.

maybe this seems off topic but to clarify what i'm saying. that licensed casinos require casinos to use KYC to prevent cases of money laundering deposited in certain casinos and especially in curacao licensed casinos.

see below :
source (https://www.yogonet.com/international/news/2023/01/26/65856-changes-to-the-curacao-gambling-regime-and-what-it-means-for-you)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441445.msg61977707#msg61977707

maybe from what i quoted you know what i mean.
but I don't mean to out off topic just to clarify my point.

Unless the gambler uses all personal identity data from his family, maybe the gambler has multiple accounts in one casino with all KYC verification.
But this rarely happens because gamblers prefer non-KYC casinos, making it easier for gamblers to have multiple accounts in one casino without having to think about the KYC that is enforced.
It is not easy to set up a global KYC system and use fake data or photos because if one day a serious problem occurs it will be more difficult.
Here I am talking for the long term, friends, so whatever you do must be carefully calculated.

I'd imagine a service which encrypts kyc data of user and user can use this data on various casinos in some form which proves his unique identity without exposing the actual data. Such system would help both the privacy conscious individuals and casino platforms.


Or may be they are just privacy conscious.

The only peace of mind I have is that When my data is leaked in a casino, I don't think I'm in Danger, Because the thief's trip to my house would be much more expensive and as soon as he arrived, who knows if the same system would take care of Leaving it bad, and apart from the money that I have to lose is not much, it is actually insignificant if I compare it with the economy of Other players, this may not be an excuse to Give my data in Kyc for a site, but still I am not I agree , and not because I think of myself, I know that there are players who are whales and that if they can compromise their safety and that is something that I Would not like, in fact, if most people do well, at least I am happy.

Well, those people who blindly trust all the gambling sites with their KC data are doing a big mistake. Since their personal data have never been misused before, they do not know the consequences of it. I am not saying that anything bad may happen with them, but since they provide their KYC data to both reputed and non-reputed gambling sites, they are at high risk.

Will there be anyone who can say that his KYC data is not important and he can afford his data to be used in the black market? I guess no one will like this to happen.

I do think there has to be some sort of balance whenever you decide to submit your KYC documents in a given gambling website.

Of course, if a gambling website is relatively new on the market and it had no further advertisements, then think twice before submitting any KYC documents as you are susceptible for identity theft. But if you are gambling in a famous gambling website and it requires you to submit such documents, then feel free to do so due to the security that they have.

Even if a gambling website offers better bonuses and rewards, if their security fails in some point then you would suffer in the long-term with your identity and information being compromised.

It's not a mistake to give KYC to a trusted gambling site but there is still a risk because they can get hacked and the KYC will be stolen by the hackers. Your second sentence is true. I was careless enough about my KYC before but after researching more about it, I now understand the dangers that can happen to me once my KYC is compromised.

Now I am more careful and very picky if I will do a KYC or not. I just realized that the casino offered by the OP can also work as on chain. This is a good news for those who are looking for this type of betting. Now we know that not all of them have extinct. The only downside is that this casino only accept a few "not so known 'alts or tokens. It will be great if they can add more coins.

That is why we must always be careful in providing personal data to any site, not just gambling sites, because we will not know whether the site can really protect the customer's personal data that has been given to them or whether their site can be penetrated by hackers so that hackers will also steal the data. But I still believe that there are still casinos that can protect these data properly even though there will be hackers trying to penetrate the site's security system. Apart from that, we still have casinos that don't implement KYC too strictly, so we are still free to play at these casinos without doing KYC. But we also have to follow their rules because usually, KYC will be applied to members who make deposits with large amounts of money or to new members who directly deposit large amounts of funds.

Is KYC necessary or optional? That is the question worth a million dollars. Perhaps not a million, but plenty to make a difference

It's not always a safe bet to share your KYC information with an online casino. Avoid the underground web at all costs. On the other hand, you're looking for a safe and reliable gaming platform to take use of all its features

Now, the question is, "What should you do?" Just apply some basic logic. Do not provide your Know Your Customer (KYC) details to an untrustworthy gaming website. However, you can rest certain that your personal information is safe in the hands of a well-known and trustworthy website

We don't have a choice with KYC when it comes to both trusted and non trusted new casinos. In both cases ,the risks are there as even in an trusted casino the hacker can get all the KYC data even though in most cases hackers are more interest to get money rather than the data.

If we keep on thinking that we are doing KYC and our data may be leaked and not safe we will not enjoy gambling and will not attain peace of mind. We need to tell ourselves, that if we are to gamble, providing the KYC data is a must and there are no options to avoid it.

Here, there's a lot of talks about KYC but I think that I'll just drop what the representative said about KYC matter if you ever win big and how they're verifying the age of their players.

The thread has been covered with new pages so I think others haven't seen it but they've got good answers from it and I guess everyone needs to see it.

Data = money. That's why every company is keen on harvesting user data. Even illegally attained data gets sold in dark web for thousands.


Post you have commented to is no-kyc casino.

this is a definite answer and I think there is no need to debate any issues related to KYC.
to be honest for this Kryptogame I can understand that the team might ask for KYC if it is really needed such as law enforcement is investigating a customer account and asked for KYC to verify the gambler's age.
and gamblers should also understand this situation because this has become part of the casino regulations which cannot be contested.

You mean that they are gamblers who trust casinos that have KYC is a big mistake, is that right what you mean?
As long as you know, their friends are gamblers who trust and don't mind casinos with KYC, because they already trust and can trust the casino, that their personal identification data will not be misused.
Every gambler is free to make their own choices whether they want to use a non-KYC casino or a casino with KYC, that is their choice. In a matter like this, we cannot prohibit or tell them to have choices like us, and what we need to convey is only to suggest that they can be more be careful when choosing a casino.
In my opinion, when KYC is given to a big and trusted casino, it is impossible if the KYC data is sold on the black market because gamblers don't like KYC because they want to be in the gambling industry anonymously.

What's make it funny is the user wearing a casino which have mandatory KYC rule in their terms and he's saying like to avoid any KYC casino. It's mean he's not trust about the casino he promoted, if he think KYC casino is bad, why wear the signature and get paid by them? :P

KYC leak or sold aren't only because of submitting KYC on the casino, but if anyone ever submitted KYC on a centralized exchange, it also carry a same risk since both of them are online.

That's right friends, if you only think about fear about KYC leaks or sales, then not only casinos but centralized platforms such as crypto trading platforms also require KYC for each user so there is no need to blame casinos too much for abusing and selling KYC.
KYC is not a scary thing if you can have a sense of confidence and trust in a casino that has been given KYC verification, besides that casinos that implement KYC will always be the security of every data that has been provided by its users.
Gamblers who want to remain anonymous and don't want KYC I can understand and respect them but strangely there are some gamblers who have excessive thinking about KYC that makes them argue everything about KYC.

Yes, as you said, not only casinos but also centralized exchanges will provide the same risk where there will be opportunities for KYC leaks or sales.
But actually we can avoid KYC leaks and sales if we use a casino or exchange that is trusted and has a good reputation and in this forum there are some of the most popular big casinos with reliable and reputable criteria.
What I really regret is when someone says that he doesn't like KYC and debates the KYC issue which has no end until it gets prolonged, even though there is no need to debate the KYC issue because gamblers who want to use non KYC casinos or have KYC are their respective rights and that of us. can't equate them to be equal to us that can't be.

Read the bold part. Stick to non-custodial section and you won't ever have to go through kyc.

That all sums up on what the owner of this casino thinks about KYC and that clears up any issues that's being discussed and that's why I did some time looking at it and it tends out that they've already it long time ago.

Every casino might really ask for KYC and whatever they say for now can also be a basis on actions that they might do in the near future. But like the usual, we all know that in terms of policies, there could be changes based on the policies that they also stick to be followed.

We're all flexible and adjustable into such and expecting it to be asked specially if you've been gambling for a long time already and had experienced before.

Yeah same is the situation with me. I am from Pakistan and none of the online gambling casinos is owned or run by anyone in my country.
Now if i submit my KYC data in some online casino, and they misuse it, I would not be in any sort of danger as no one can harm me because of that. Also, i am not that important person that the world would need my KYC  :D and more importantly I don't possess enough dollars that the global investigations firms come after me.

I think most people in the third-world countries would not care for the KYC data and it's more of the US, Eupore or the first-world countries users whose data may be valuable.

Indeed, things are like that, only that the money laundering that if you pay attention to is crypto, but why don't they do the studies on the governments of the nations? because those governments pay the authorities to let them, in fact, those who launder money the most are in fiat money and crypto is just one way to do it, so good things can be done, bad things are done and That is something that Cannot be controlled, you have to see it as a tool, where many can choose to see or how they are going to use it, that is why it would be very good if privacy was always respected, anonymity,never give kyc, but that is how something impossible.

Most money laundering is done with fiat and crypto, but those criminals who do money laundering prefer to use crypto because it is considered safer and less visible, so there are not a few cases of money laundering using crypto. Many governments always reinforce and enforce the law that applies that money laundering is prohibited, but they do not realize that most cases of money laundering are carried out by government officials also from money resulting from corruption or embezzlement.
Actually, I agree with KYC because it can minimize money laundering, it's just that all gamblers want to remain anonymous and reject KYC.
What I wonder when crypto gamblers balk at KYC at casinos do they also refuse KYC on crypto exchange platforms because almost all crypto exchange platforms require KYC and I'm sure crypto gamblers also use exchange platforms for their deposits or withdrawals.

Money laundering, that classic hobby of crooked politicians and shadowy figures, am I right? But did you know crypto's the latest money laundering hotspot? Yup, forget those cash-stuffed briefcases, it's all about the digital dough now. So here's the deal: KYC? Pretty solid at fighting money laundering. But why do gamblers cringe at dropping their cloak of anonymity? Scared of getting busted? Or just digging that James Bond vibe when placing bets?

And I agree with you. If you're gambling with crypto, odds are you're buying and selling tokens on an exchange. What's with the double standards? Is KYC cool only when it suits you? Or are you hiding some dirty secrets? Listen, I feel you, nobody loves being bossed around. But money laundering's no joke, folks. We've all got a role to play in stopping it. So next time you're itching to dodge KYC, remember: you might be feeding a much larger beast.

Hi Kryptogamers, I actually do like your design and the games you are offering I was wondering what coins do you accept? Only Hive? I was interested in placing bet using Bitcoin, I would like to try and test all of your games but I would possibly stay on the Crash game, I would also think that a public games is a good idea like all people can place bet at the same time on the same round or something like that.

It's mentioned in op, kryptogamers accepts Hive, Steem, Dec and gamer. They don't accept Bitcoin, even if they were to accept it, it would only be possible with pegged versions of btc since its Hive blockchain based casino.

The kyc policies in the exchanges and the casinos are almost the same, I don't know if the casinos make temporary kycs, as in the case of the exchanges that when they are going to make large withdrawals they demand a kyc like making a 3-second video or a quick photo, that is something that can be taken into consideration, however, casinos and exchanges unless they are centralized will never require kyc, something that seems fine to me because in the first instance if you work with crypto you should not require kyc , but well, since it is such a long topic, there are already acceptance criteria.

It's no longer a secret, friends, that many people commit embezzlement of funds or corruption and then use crypto as a place for them to launder money so they can escape legal entanglement and suspicion of the criminal acts they have committed.
So far, KYC has actually been very useful for minimizing money laundering and almost all crypto exchanges have implemented KYC for investors or traders who will join there.
To be honest I never mind giving KYC to some of the casinos or crypto exchanges I use, after all this is also for the sake of keeping me from getting in trouble when I get big profits.
I entered into gambling and crypto exchanges by depositing some money so that I will do anything that can provide comfort and to avoid getting into trouble in the future, including KYC.

It seems that most gamblers are horrified and refuse KYC not only to remain anonymous but also to remain private when in the future they get a jackpot or big win because it also greatly affects their assets so that they can avoid being hacked more.

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I think that as time goes by, not only the casinos that have the kyc will try to disguise their intentions with certain bonuses,or that they have free throws on roulette wheels to encourage players,I cannot deny that they can achieve many records like this sine mebago When they understand the risk involved in leaving a kyc in a place like casinos,excahnges, they will know that some authorities will have access to all the data of certain people,especially those who have more money, Players who have less or little money will not even be taken into account.

We cannot fight with what is impossible to beat, everything has been focused in that direction, even if we do not want things to happen with kyc, there will always be ways to force ourselves to comply with them, and the other is to use casinos that do not have kyc requirements that are centralized like freebitcoin, apart from this I don't know of others unless they are decentralized casinos that have other rules, but in general I prefer casinos that are centralized, because they offer more security and more guarantee that they do things better like in duelbits, this is It's just that I think and I believe that things should be done that way.

I counter, but isnt this leaning towards non-KYC hubs like Hive blockchain somewhat amiss? Sure, the charm of non-KYC is irresistible, but at what sacrifice? Premier casinos insist on KYC, not for sport but for compliance and your guard. Arent we concerned about our funds going awry? Doesnt security hold more weight than simplicity?

Centralized venues like Duelbits, strictly following KYC, embody responsibility and dependability. If things go downhill, wouldn't you opt for a casino answerable to the law than some enigmatic decentralized stage? Isnt it smarter to risk on the game, not the platform?

Funds can go awry or need to be guarded if there is someone holding your funds in first place.

Users here don't try the platform, neither understand what on-chain is (I'm excluding lightning wallet part) and just come here and write in ignorance.


I'll update the op.