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I am happy to announce me and my team are developing couple of table games , that will be played versus player and multi player tournaments , a public chat room for players:
more information will be released , we are building it around a Defi Token project for it to get enough publicity for the games platform.

This is really cool! Waiting with bated breath to witness the results of your team's labors. Can we get a preview of the platform before it's released, or at least a demo? The public should see how awesome your project may be. Or you may tell us what you believe are the best qualities by listing them

Well, since this is an announcement thread, it is likely this will get moved to the service announcement section of the forum, unless you give more information on the gambling features of this platform you are working on and whether we would be able to use Bitcoin as wager or not.

Also, some nice pictures or a demo of your games would be appreciated, just my two sats. Good luck.

This is nice and welcome onboard. I can not wait to see what you have cooking for us. I hope it goes well to render good services. Your announcement should not be just a loud drum but a drum with content of great value and potentials speaking for itself. I know the bitcointalk community  would be eagerly waiting for your next announcement as regards the development of your game and features in it. Making just announcement alone would not just help but engaging in marketing would be of great help and value. So in that case, I would advise you seek the expertise of a good signature campaign manager with good reputation and large followership to help promote your project. This would help your project go a long way in gaining popularity.

Yes sure i will providing the UI interface of the games in few days!

It is uncommon and it will surely interesting game, I never heard here a player versus-player gambling casino and perhaps this will be the first PvP here in the forum. Can we ask what kind of game it is --or there are various games that you can choose not only focus on one game? I agree with the comment above, it is good if there is a picture of your planned casino so that we have an idea about it.
Well, that is it, good luck and welcome to the forum.

Great news. I've been waiting for a working game like that.

That said, we had a few attempts in the past and no real finished development. There were games made that paid you for playing or allowed to convert some ingame loot or points into cryptocurrency, but there were no real PvP games that you could bet on against other players.

How are you going to stop cheaters? What types of games are these going to be? Games where each player rolls the dice and whoever gets the higher number wins?
I'd really like to see some strategy board games in casinos one day.

It looks like it will be more interesting if you and your team do table game development.
But before that, I will give a few suggestions, namely immediately provide information on the final results of the development that you and your team have carried out so that users of this forum can immediately get definite clarity.
Don't forget to provide overall information or details of what you have provided. For features and others it would be better if you could show it too.
One more provide a link that can go directly to your casino site.

you are advancing your advertising while your site is still not up  ;D , but sounds interesting as PVP is always welcome to us(but you must prove yourself first before gathering players from here.

anyway Advance welcome to you and your team and hope you'll bring interesting and worth a wait PVP games here.

Recently, quite a lot of developers have been building their decentralized sports betting platforms and online casinos around their tokens, it would not be bad to provide more extensive information about your platform, including.

This is interesting to know, PVP games are one of the most interesting games i love to play, but unfortunately, Many of the online casino we have around today does not offer such type of games, so it would be really interesting to have a casino that offer such type of game..
And also, if the game is going to be hosted on chain, that a decentralized game, please host on a good blockchain, i am an advocate of Renec Blockchain (https://renec.foundation/) for the tech/features and great community they have(outside this forum), but the blockchain is still young and not so popular yet, so just make sure you guys build on a good blockchain, this will contribute greatly, to the acceptance of the game by the community.
Goodluck to you all involved in the project.

That's interesting, because I can't wait to finally experience what it feels like gambling on a p2p crypto casino when you and your team are done with this project. One thing I will love to suggest is that never forget to ensure this project has a very fast, secured and easy to navigate interface, because we have heard many people coming up to promise working on a p2p casino of which till date we never saw again. So I hope yours will be different. Goodluck

Sounds interesting but if it's a DeFi token project then it should not be here or classified as a Bitcoin-based casino and you should move this thread to the altcoin service section where it belongs, you did not give us a specific or targeted date on its release I don't know if it will generate support from the gambling community but it will surely get support from the gaming community, the chain that you will use should have a large community to get more support from your soon to launch platform.

@OP
nice idea, it sounds good did you have a demo about your games?
what kind of games did you are planning to launch? house edge?
as reported by @aioc this is the wrong section since here we are talking about bitcoin gambling.
did you plan to release something related to bitcoin?

Seems interesting OP. We'd love to see what kind of casino you're working on with your team, and hopefully, it's something new for us.

Can you give an image of what kind of game you are working on? How long do you expect your site to be launched? How about KYC? Hopefully, you don't implement KYC in your casino.

To be realistic, it is probable that if OP's casino may require KYC, even if does not in the beginning it may be forced to do it as his casino grows.
If this is a casino which would accept Bitcoin, then we are talking about a custodial service, which makes difficult not to be registered in some jurisdiction, in order to gain some trust from newcomers, etc. With the registration comes the regulators, I assume.

I have seen several projects come here with their PVP games. But I did not see them being active for a good period here. I mean all of them have gone or stopped their project services. So I'm not sure how people will take your project. I hope this will be interesting and you will keep the project active for a long time.

I think the past PVP games project are not last long due to a lack of users. Because if you don't have enough users then how people will play each other? People will not wait for their opponent for a long time. So I think achieving enough traffic/players for a PVP games project is a big challenge. Best of luck :)

This is interesting to hear about a PVP games launching soon and I guess this will be the ann thread of this project. I see it's not Bitcoin based gambling site but a defi-token. Are you and your team planning to accept Bitcoin as one of the mode of payment?. If that's so then this thread won't be moved in altcoin announcement. We'll know what will happen to this project sooner or later if this will survive or continue running since PVP gambling sites doesn't have much players.

Great to see new projects coming to life. Nevertheless, you could at least  leave us wirh some notions of what will be your project. If you do not do that, people around here will think that it will be more of the same. Anyways, best of luck to your team and project

You are correct but at the same time when almost all the coins that are being released on the market at the beginning are nothing more than an idea, and their developers are already asking for a lot of money to come their way then this is not an odd behavior at all, especially since the OP will present to UI in a few days and the release of those games should be soon, which means the development is close to end, then this is nowhere near as bad as what we experiment with other projects.

Sounds great. But player vs player brings a lot more complexity to the game than only single player. What kind of games will you be introducing? Skill based or luck based? Or perhaps a hybrid of both?

I would love a challenge which is not only luck based but has a skill based component to it. But you cannot make a 100% skill based game since it would be too easy to cheat by simply writing a few lines of code to automate an algorithmic process which, like in chess, wins every time against humans.

We will be waiting for your future updates! Good luck!

I already created PVP Games Thread List:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256076.msg54632401#msg54632401

However the main problem of these games is the player it self, we are really lack of player in this sector. People are more like playing against the house with some provider like Evolution games.

Because we have lack of player, most of the casino who are release "PVP Games" is closed one by one.

Yes, this is true and this is why we dont see any PvP based type of games because of lack of demand and recognition in gambling community which its not really that surprising that they would cease to exist.
Dont know if there are ones who do tend to launch up because if basing up on the level of demand then its better to check it back and make out some other plans because pvp games arent that something
that do really generate lots of interest here on this market.They are really that bound to fail and if ever there's one to survive then it might be something offering something interesting but im not really
that much optimistic when it comes to this.Just like lottery games too on which there's no much interest for these type of games and this is why they do eventually die and wither away.

Looks interesting but better to give some information now so we can help the team to adjust on a necessary things. I’m pretty sure some gamblers already have their idea about PVP games and how it can execute properly without experiencing a problem. Anyway, i’ll just wait for the update and I’m expecting a more constructive announcement sharing the highlights of the site, good luck to the whole team.

He's one of those overly hyped guys who think the house is built when they buy the land and the project. They already start making plans for the parties that he's going to throw there.

I'm happy that such projects are being developed but I'm also cautious with opinions because I've seen this enthusiasm here and in the altcoin sections where new projects are being introduced and then there's nothing. OP is not answering any question so there's a chance we won't hear anything else about the project.

^ This is the most common problem in PVP games, lack of players. Because not everyone has the same time to visit the website not unless everyone will set a time when it will happen. I don't know how OP fix this but it seems OP knows already about this possible outcome.
That is definitely right, I have been here for how many years and I have witnessed different gambling casinos arise but the PVP games have a poor outcome and the major reason is the lack of players. But who knows OP will be able to manage.

Most of his games aren't really PvP, the way computer players understand that term. For instance, there's a trading game where you put money on the coin that you think will ho up and other players also put money on their coins and the one that does in the given time wins. This is as much of a PvP game as betting on horse racing is a PvP, because both of these games rely on the same principles.

What I'd like to see is a skill-based PvP game. An example of a skill-based games would be chess, tetris, scarbble. Maybe one day we'll get a virtual reality game that we can play to win money.

PvP Games is a good idea, but some casinos that provide this game don't get many players interested in trying it, maybe because opponents are not always available because this is what I have experienced when playing games on mobile applications, sometimes there are no players available to play with, but from all that, I hope that your game development can run smoothly and provide something different from other casinos so that there will be many players who are interested in playing

If so, the OP can still add casino games in general so gamblers can keep playing them if they don't want to play PvP games. What's important is if OP can provide something different from other casinos and inspire curiosity in the players, they will come back to try their luck. And don't forget to do promotions because that will make many visitors come to the casino. Maybe allocating some funds for the promotion and planning how long the promotion will last will let them know how the casino site is developing over time.

Yes i understand this particular problem, i have already experienced it  when i did my first p2p sports betting platform, i think with a good presentation players will intime find it interesting, playing card games like blackjack, poker and coinflip or dice within gambling communities as tournament games , i am particularly drawn into social aspect of the game, there will be social chat room of players where anyone can create a game or tournament for another player to join or group of players, we will build this and hope pace by pace most gamblers will finally be used to it and we know it wont happen overnight.

we will look into on how to make a hybrid for both types of gamblers

Will the presence of a chat for players lead to the creation of additional tension during the tournament and will a chat be available when two players are playing with each other, although it seems to me that this would be unnecessary, although as a social experiment it would be interesting.

I think that in general the number of players in PVP games will gradually decrease for the simple reason that these are rather problematic games precisely because of the unpredictable behavior of the player during the game itself.  First of all, the sudden stoppage of the game due to the fact that the opponent or opponents were distracted or even left to do other things.  And at this moment you just got a taste of this game.  Well, who would be pleased to stop like this.  Of course, everyone prefers to play with a "continuously playing" opponent.  That is, with a computer.  There will not be such a fiasco when you are on the way, for example, to victory.  

I think there are a lot of those who ignore PVP games precisely because of this among all players and their number will only grow as the entire gambling industry develops on a global scale.

  -  This is a good plan under the defi token project. Coincidentally, this is the first thing that will happen in the

world of crypto gambling in this industry. It seems that this PvP in crypto gambling is exciting, can it be included in slot games or what?

what kind of PvP does this game will be looks like?

This seems interesting, I've always been interested and curious about this type of PVP game.

especially, those involving betting. but at least, you have to provide some clues as an illustration for us to know. I'm sure, if you describe it in a little more detail in this thread, there will definitely be various responses from our members here. at least, what kind of games will you offer us and how many games will you release. did you and your team, have made a demo of this game.
at least, we have something different if any casino offers something different. By the way, good luck with the project you're about to launch.

Many gamblers are interested in PVP games because they could be skilled based but I agree that Op should have posted details about it so gamblers on this forum could also share their ideas for the betterment and development of the project.
Tournaments and PVP games could attract players especially if they would offer good bonuses and promotions.
Good luck with your project, Op.

So this likes or pertain about binary option thing which do tend to choose on where prices would really be ending up.Well i dont know on where they do get the idea about on being PvP since this isnt really that player to player kind of set  up or against with but rather with the market.It is really just they are really that making use of that certain word just to make it sound a little bit different.
Yes, i agree on what you have said on which if we do talk on a  certain word or means pvp then would be definitely be talking about those sole player to player kind of gambling or competition in between.
Just on what you had mentioned which are actually that on point and true.

This has been the problem of many games, there’s no enough players and most of the time gamblers don’t want to spend that much time waiting for the result of the game because gamblers want’s an instant result. OP should start considering to still offer other gambling games to give the gamblers an option as well but if they really want to focus on this, I think this must be unique so they can attract more gamblers on their platform.

I am excited because this is an opportunity for us to enjoy a good casino with no PVP games, but I would like if they could promote something, if the tournaments or games are going to be, what will be the minimum amount to enter or if there are some free games, how are they going to have the games? by tables, if they can also do it with black jack, if they are going to do bingo? as they have planned.

The players will really like this opportunity that they are giving, and there will be no need for them to do a lot of advertising because this attracts just knowing that it will be PVP.

But it's okay if the OP wants to launch a casino like that PvP game because maybe the competition isn't too heavy compared to making casinos that have games as usual. But we can suggest that the OP have the usual games available in many casinos, so this can also be an attraction in his casino. And as long as OP can receive input from many parties and start thinking about the shape of his casino, I think he can make something different from other casinos. We're also still waiting for comments from the OP on all the advice we've given him.

I have seen platforms to what you are talking about but they never spam the gambling section because the platform is considered to be on the altcoin section since its a DeFi token, I don't know if this will interest gamblers we already have PVP platforms in the market, it's wrong to post a pre-announcement thread here, this section is for gambling announcement, you can lock this thread because it already generates a lot of feedbacks and just create a thread for the launching of your shit project.

This is a nice move and I wouldn't have to speak ill of you but I really would love to see what you and your team have to offer and it also seems this might be one of a kind since it might be a player to player sort of game and one of the interesting aspect is the open chat room but I also wanted you to know that it wouldn't be easy to regulate such chat rooms because that will be alot of bugs and spams and also scams aswell.
One other thing is that It wouldn't be bad if we could have a demo of what you intend to offer because currently what gamblers offer more now is PVP rather than defi and I wish you guys luck and be open to receive criticism especially if you're ready to grow.

Yes, this is needed. Not that we don't have an interest to play p2p games but it always better to have different choices so that we will never get bored. I heard on other p2p betting sites, there times that there are no players so the people who want to play will be tired of waiting for someone to come in the room, so having a non-p2p game will be great to those players. Having a dual support of games is something that can be unique and we know that people always love unique stuffs.

Usually, most casinos do only offer non-p2p games. If there are sites who have p2p games, they don't have non p2p games. Promotions is important. It can make the people enter and stick with it so don't worry, each casino do always set a budget for it.

They will feel at home playing in that casino by having more gambling games. And if they feel bored waiting for other players to play together in p2p games, they can play other bets and if they are satisfied, they can return to the p2p game to find other opponents. That is also what can make a casino develop well, but it all depends on how the casino treats its players because, without the support of good service, the casino will not be able to have many players.

sounds very interesting but you say build around DeFi tokens, are you going to accept BTC as well for deposits and betting?
if I see your project later it will use tokens to bet. but it would be more interesting if you can still use BTC. because it will become more popular here and can attract more users to gamble on your platform.
but if my estimate is wrong, please let me know. because you haven't given a little explanation or picture that we can understand here.

anyway the PvP games are a lot of fun to bet on and I'll be waiting for the next update once you release and give it a try.

I`m happy to hear that the OP is developing smth. One problem - i don`t know what he is developing, i don`t know who is the OP, i can`t see even demo. The only question i have is for what purposes was created this thread? The best way is to wait few days until release and to show smth that we can test.

In a way it is concerning the lack of interest I have noticed over the years when it comes to PVP games, it is evident there is a huge interest in gambling and it is one of the strongest sectors we have on the market, and while there are games which are extremely popular like dice, slots and sports bets, when it comes to PVP games the interest is simply not there and since this situation has continued for a long time I doubt it will change over the next years.

The interest is not there, I think depends on the type of pvp games In the first place, for now, I don't think I have come across any crypto gambling casino that offer pvp games let it be that there are no interest..
When it comes to pvp games, like I said above, I've not seen casinos with games modes as this, so I think if op would develop an interesting pvp game which everyone that come across would love to play, then in no time, I believe other casinos would start integrating pvp games into their systems as well.

Let wait to see what you and your team have to offer, this is a new development but. Not everyone here can take part since the idea soh d as if it is a land-based casino, not an online one.

I love the idea of arranging a tournament but I will like to see how this game will function.

Looking at OP's posts history, I can say that he want to start his own project since a year ago when he looked for a developer. He came back to this forum after many months then said that he (with team) is developing table games. It seems that he is just too excited about his own project and want others to know about it earlier before official launch. However, OP is not active for a week now and perhaps he may not come back soon as what he did last year.

It could just be a made-up project?
Or if it's even true, he is just waiting for the bull market so many users will try to buy the token, and him dumping it on the investors.  Like many other projects during the bull market.

Table games are interesting though. Is this the kind of board game such as chess? Snake and Ladder?  ;D

I would like the OP to see that he has been questioned on occasions in the thread, could you show us a preview? maybe some screenshots on your sites, how the development is going, because for us it is important, all the opinions here are valuable, and we have given good ideas to OP, and I know when you start with a site things are difficult and somewhat complicated, but you should do that, because I am very curious about how this is going, it is already a matter of curiosity, so if you can, a video, or forums would be something that I would love and many here too.

One of the things that do sucks when someone do make out some post and never came back to make up some updates in regarding their progress and this what makes a thread been clogged up with lots of comments and queries in regarding on the site but leave out on being unanswered which it isnt really that shocking anymore.Going back about pvp games on which these are type of games
which arent really that something that pokes up much interest here on this forum excluding though into those poker and other card games which do seems interesting
but most of the time they've been ignored.

Actually, before starting this thread he should have waited his project development to be more advanced, so he could create the thread with solid informations and previews for gamblers from bitcointalk community. The way he made this thread is worthless and will only denigrate his project for his lack of professionalism, especially when refusing to come back to answer questions and updating people on how things are going. Even if the project was paused for some reason, he should have come here and told everyone following the thread in a signal of respect and consideration for their potential future customers.

I'm not sure but maybe they have decided to halt or stop the project as they are not active or probably too busy developing their project. I am fan of PVP games but still depends on the game play of it, if they decided to continue it I hope that they should create a different one from the existing PVP gambling sites.

That's what I was thinking. Besides, why announce that you're going to announce the launch of a new project? I guess to create excitement or something, but I think it's better to just come with the project created and with its Ann thread. Hopefully if it does materialise they will publicise it properly. We'll see.

I wish you could share us the beta test firsthand without the money thing injected yet, just numbers will probably do good or coins without any value.
It would a great pleasure to witness how this will work out and maybe it could grow in the future.
PVP games are not something we see every day, mostly are played by bots and it's not fun because they are better at calculating the math/probabilities than I do.  ;D
I see OP has not replied yet for a week, I hope when he comes back it will be great news.

as everyone has already mentioned many things i just want to add a few things or questions, you came to this forum and created this thread, you mentioned that you have a PVP project under construction, but you didn't give details about how your project could be different from the others projects that were already created and were a failure, I don't remember the names but I remember that some projects came to this forum with that same PVP idea and then disappeared, so I presume they were projects that failed

The advice I can give you would be the following:

Assuming that people like something when they can see it, then you should have posted a video or photos of how you intend your project to look

then you had to ask questions whether or not people would use your site, of course you would have to mention the minimum deposit amount, withdrawals, KYC or not, odds, license, game providers and many other relevant things and with that you could see to what extent are people interested in using your site

this would save you the headaches of creating a website and nobody using it


source: https://medium.com/cryga/why-crypto-gambling-community-lacks-a-good-pvp-game-49e1ac448ea7

It is a very interesting article that I think you need to consider

When someone talks about what he just plans to develop without smth that we can see and test - 99% that we`ll see nothing. I even don`t want to spend time searching his previous posts as you did - it is so standard situation that i can predict the result right from the first post of the thread.
The good way is to develop smth and post link with comments that it is demo and what would be added. And here we have nothing to discuss.

Then you should start doing background check next time before you post. I agree with you that most of the time post like this didn’t materialize but I knew some casino that manage to produce a working casino that start like this. Coinslotty is what I’m describing, they start posting about casino inquiries and post like this, In the end they manage to have a working casino with license.

There’s nothing wrong to post advance info thread like this since OP is just gathering data on how many people will be interested on his game before he fully committed on the development. The testing period is what you are describing and that’s already the advance part of the development.

It is possible that the OP will create smth but this thread has no any information. What data he can gather if the members even don`t know what he is developing? And, as @Bitinity said - the same thread the OP created a year ago. I think it is possible to develop smth for such period but we see the same thread.

It's possible that the OP created this thread for the sole purpose of informing forum users of the upcoming development plans or launch of a new project.
However, what became a bit of a conversation is that he did not provide clear details about the information and did not provide a proof of the development examples he had planned.
So that from the thread he has made it only gives a question mark and makes forum users confused about this information.
So I think this thread being created will also be in vain.

I really hope that the marketing team know how to run a suitable campaign because it is necessary for your pvp to have a decent number of players so that everyone has someone to play with.

When will the debut date be? I really want to try it. Moreover, you can give us some demos such as images or the game rules. It will be a lot more exciting to have additional information about your project

I don't think the OP is serious, or at least it doesn't seem like it at all. As for the project, I don't believe it until I see it, and I doubt that we will see anything.


source: https://medium.com/cryga/why-crypto-gambling-community-lacks-a-good-pvp-game-49e1ac448ea7

It is a very interesting article that I think you need to consider
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We had a lot of discussions about interesting PvP games and their integration into gambling games... Bots are just one of the possible problems, there are other cheats that can be used by players, and it's generally difficult (if not impossible) to be sure of a fair game.

Interesting article, it's a bit old (May 11, 2020) but I decided to check their project "Cryga":


I guess the project is dead (failed to fletch on the site, and zero activity on CMC)... so much about PvP gambling projects! I think that it will be a long time before we see something really interesting in this field.

You had me excited... until I read the little buzz killer word.. DeFi  ::)  - https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/07/05/the-era-of-easy-defi-yields-is-over/

DeFi technology are quickly going the route of initial coin offerings (ICO) ... it was a fad or a short lived craze for a while, but the novelty are not there anymore. Things like this should only be based on the most popular Crypto currencies ...and not on a get rich quick fad.  :P

I think you will have to re-think the whole DeFi thing..... most people got burnt by it... and do not want anything to do with it anymore.

I am curious, what do you mean by "smth"? Pardon my ignorance.
Regarding the OP, I see no other reason for him/her posting this other than announcing it. He didn't ask for our opinions or so.

Did I miss some of the OP's posts? When did he say that it'll be a land-based casino? From the OP though, thought that all of these will be online (which I believe until now).

It means "something". In the university we used it to write faster and i thought that it is standard abbreviation. Sorry, i`ll write the full version.
Of course he didn`t ask us but what the purpose he created thread? I think it must be some useful information in the thread, but we don`t see some of it.

that's the crux of the matter. actually not for nothing, but it's just that right now the OP is not providing clarity or detail on the topic he is writing about. but it's possible that if the OP comes back and provides all the information in detail it's possible we'll soon understand what the OP's goal is.
anyway, for a PvP game built on DeFi tokens I think it will be difficult and usually will only use native tokens to gamble.

But it doesn't look like the OP is coming back with any more clear information on the thread he has created.
It can be seen that since the last OP replied to some of the comments in this thread it has been 10 days ago, If he is serious and intends to provide information surely from a few days ago he will come up with some precise information and details.
So don't expect the OP to come back with all the info 🤣.

And if you can only use original gambling tokens, then the development of the platform will end because there will only be a few gamblers who are interested in it.

PVP table games on crypto sounds good and interesting. It is better to put some bet on yourself that betting with someone you don't know. Player vs player is one of the best and challenging games specially if when it comes to gamble. I suggest chess, I'd like to bet on myself against someone. Good luck on your team, hoping you guys to become successful!

Will have "Rock scissors paper" ??  ::)


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Great idea, I want to see what kind of tabletop PvP Games you offer to the people here, I hope you and your team can implement some competitive and classic games for users here, as well as being friendly to Android phones.

Do you provide shooting games PVP, Billiards, 8 Ball Pro, Brawl Stars, Clash Royale, and others, maybe currently there are many fans and players on the PVP Games platform, namely shooting, hope your gaming platform is warmly received here with some competitive and classic gameplay.

When did you start launching your web game platform.

DeFi is good because it adheres to the decentralization advocate of Cryptocurrency but it's the same technology that is being used by scammers and developers to make money and make a profit from investors these DeFi PVP games can not take off further because its created for developers to be its cash cow, I have to see the features of OP's project before I judge it to be another DeFi form cash cow of developers, but right now the current online casino set up is the one that is very much embraced by the gambling community.

I agree, Having a competitive characteristic makes gamers, gamblers or anyone stay at a game as much as they can aiming for becoming number one. This is proven on many e-sports game out there and it can possibly be implemented on such gambling games and adding DeFi to that is a cherry on top. This is what I believe play to earn is lacking on the first hype wave that's why people started losing interest. Competitive games can be potentially addicting to gamblers knowing that everyone wants to be on top and it's good for the casino. Gamblers love seeing them at top rankings such as wagering, biggest win, most spins and etc. on currently existing casino.

Indeed but to some gamblers they are more fond of betting to other people or players, simply because they are not as good as them. But to those who are more thrilled with peer to peer betting for sure this would be a huge one. P2P betting are more often being seen on small tournaments ehether sports, esports and other events people can make predictions from and betting from. The only downside with typical p2p in person, is lack of organization with bets and betting system wherein there are times wherein players are not agreeing with one another or are making changes in a sudden with their bets. So I hope such kind of platforms would be great middlemen to make duch concept more efficient.

Sounds interesting but your lack of detail leaves a lot out and a bit more information might be nice.

Why exactly does your project need a defi token? How is it going to compliment the entire system?

When you say "table games" I assume one of the very first games you are going to introduce is going to be poker? Are there going to be introductory games? What about bonuses? I think it would be a good idea perhaps if you were to integrate the bitcointalk community more strongly into the community events. That would give you a small starter crowd who will market your project even further.

Usually gambling sites that has their own token do also has a staking feature. You can make use of it to earn passive income other than the active income that we are getting in gambling and of course the more we bet the more the native tokens that we can get. We can also buy it on our own and HodL them if we aren't a fan of staking and gambling.

In the table games part; they can be compose of card games including poker, and then there is roulette, and dice. I like the idea of creating an event exclusive only to the bitcointalk community. I think not many casino are doing it so this should give them a good start. I do not know what's introductory game mean but bonuses are normal for every casinos.

You are right from your explanation and I believe on what you said so but I think this needs more detail because marketing team from the explanation have impacts to play but at least I need more knowledge to break it down for our understanding and the another person's understanding

that's the usual dilemma of most pvp platforms. how can they attract players and how to sustain their interest? maybe, at the beginning you can attract some players as the site may offer promos and all. however, the longevity is always in question for this type of gambling.

if you check the history here in this forum, a gambling platform devoting only to pvp games don't last long. so if the team is serious to explore this business, they need to find a way how to sustain its players. maybe program a bot that they can play with while waiting for actual players. because the prob is, if they have no one to play with, they won't wait too long. just move on to the next casino that they think of.

Well, it may not necessarily be a platform only for PVP, then I think it will be interesting to a limited circle of players, it may be a regular sports betting platform, where there is a PVP mode as an addition, who will be interested in using it and it will not alienate other players.

Thus, as done on another sports betting platform.

https://i.imgur.com/Rr1lPQ3.png

How is this game that you are developing OP that is PvP games under the defi token projects? Are there any updates on this matter?

I just remember that the only PvP gambling that I know that can be played in the game of blackjack, and poker, we just don't know here what about the OP who says that it is unique and there is nothing like it.

I'm not sure of it. Based on what I've understood games like chess can be considered as PvP games. The best part through PvP games we were able to show our skills. By the same time we won't be able to confirm whether we're playing against player or against the computer. If this can be confirmed, then PvP will attract more players than gamblers.

A platform that is always in the pvp mode is something that can cause a lot of emotions, I really like the competitions and it is always nice to see a leaderboard, who is the leader, and it would be good if they could put how much money they are earning How much can you win and how much do you hope to win if you win a specific tournament? If the people in a casino do something different, they will have many people queuing up to enter the tournaments and that is very productive for the company because only then can they continue to expand their way to play and that more players can have a chance to play.

From the amount of responses given the lack of information contained in this thread, it shows just how hungry the people are for PVP style gambling.  This is why I think it's inevitable that a game system will be created or converted to be able to easily allow for PVP wagering among opponents.  Imagine how crazy it would be if you could go into a Call of Duty lobby and bet someone that you'd end with more kills than them, or that your team will win the game...  It would be combining 2 pretty intense activities with a high addiction rate.  I imagine plenty of people would try their hand at professional gaming at that point and there would be some great and sad stories.

Actually almost all kind of gambling games can be implemented to PVP version. Even slot games can be a pvp game and it was implemented by rollbit with the slot battle. It will be depending on the owner of the project to decide what kind of pvp game they are going to create. Anyway, I think the OP of this thread has gone already and I'm starting to think that he is not really ready with his own project but he was over confident to announce it earlier even before his project is ready to go.

Not really, a new update is coming with our first game beta version and and all the links coming likely next week

It seems like the PVP era will be back on track again since lots of PVP games and launching nowadays. Maybe because the market is also trying to recover from the bearish season so it will be a good time to launch interesting games. I just hope that previous PVP projects that failed to recover during the bear market will also try to relaunch again.

Thank you for coming back and telling when the latest updates about your site.

Many of us are curious about what kind of casino uses the PvP version you have informed us about. Hopefully, this will be a great start for you, your team, and your casino site. And hopefully, your casino can get a lot of attention from other members.

Very good news. We are very happy with the news that your team has provided. It has been quite some time but you have not been able to submit your project to us. I have waited a lot for you, how much more to wait? I want to know if your project will be a signature campaign. Can we get weekly money working there? If so then we will wait more for your project. But if your project can be promoted by a good manager then it will gain more popularity. Always hope your team will do well.

And I think that in general PvP games in the future will still be less in demand by players due to the uncertainty in the behavior of a partner or partners playing online quite remotely. It's one thing to play when an opponent is nearby and he can't suddenly drop everything and stop the game without explaining the reason. The reason will allow you to stop. But when a person is nearby, it is clear what he will say about his future plans - whether he will play or refuse. And it will be clear. But when they stop playing online, they can do it suddenly and disappear altogether. So, how are you going to play it then? In PVP, it is enough to face such behavior of the opponent like this about 10 times. And you will no longer want to play such games at all. And there are more and more such players, it seems to me.
So not a very promising theme and game option.

But I don't know, maybe I'm wrong??

What I want is for these games to be launched quickly, I have taken several poker courses because I really like this, every time I feel that many more things can be learned, and that is something exciting, because I have always been practicing with the poker machines. casinso, and they are in demo mode, because I don't have a lot of experience, one of the things I want these pvp games to have is that they can include training before playing for those who can't do it, or take a look at that little education, that education that teach to protect and earn money, if a casino house does something like that, they would be making a difference.

that's the dilemma of pvp platforms. how can you sustain the interest of your players long-term? most of the time, these players are only here for short-term duration. not many can have the patience of always waiting for some players to show up and play the game.
it is not the first proj that we have seen here to explore the pvp gaming system. but how many have you seen here that actually survive? i haven't seen one yet. so let us see how long this project can survive after they launch their game?

if they manage to make a platform like this, it's something that would be practically new, I don't know if something can be done to ensure that it can always have this same scope, but I would give you some valuable advice, if one day you came across a platform called "betcoinpóker "which was a software that was downloaded and could be played was something incredible, in fact it could be played simultaneously, and there were free tournaments that had a mB pot that was given to the first place, at that time there was a large number of players, due to traffic it was something that could be self-sustaining, but it's just an idea, this only for poker, this totally applies to any other game as well

That's a good sign. I hope we are the first ones to be shared with.  ;D
Yeah, me too. It's not every day we will see this coming to life.
I think he is already getting the attention that he needs, all it requires is to make it grow. But the project first, obviously. If there's a chance this will be a successful one then we are the ones who will be battling each other.  :D Just imagining it makes me thrilled about the outcome and how OP and his team are working hard for this.
I am also pessimistic about this kind of service before as it won't work out with just a small amount of players logging in. But I want to see this first, who knows maybe we are wrong and OP can prove it can be done.

   -    Many of the communities here on this forum are eager for PVP games. This is the category that I don't see much in crypto gambling in this industry. If I only knew how to play poker it would probably be playing a lot because it's pvp type of game in the casino.

I hope OP will finish this soon, as I see many people will support you here regarding this matter and I am one of them for sure. I keep getting excited, I hope your pvp op is unique and different.

I agree with you when this platform is finished soon it will be one of the new things that many gamblers here will try. because PVP games are still very rare and if there is a possibility it's a little uninteresting.
well, as mentioned by @LUCKMCFLY maybe this platform can see ideas from several replies to become a PVP game with the latest model which is more interesting than other PVP games.

I have no doubts that this will be a great project and I will looking forward to what you and your team have to offer and since this is an announcement, I think it should be moved to the announcement board and since it is a PvP gaming token which I no doubts that it's a great idea and since we might have to compete with fellow players, I don't think so many players would want to try this out reasons might be best known to them but I also think and hope that people turn out for this game.
I also have some few questions as to how will the bets be staked and how will it be shared if the finally winner emerges.

I wonder how they would implement the matchmaking system.
For example, there are people around here who can easily wager hundreds of dollars at the time, while others only wager a couple of dollars per dice roll or blackjack game.

A bad case scenario for these kind of PvP games would be someone like me, not being able to find a fellow gambler to play, because I am in a low league.  :P

Sounds nice and I hope it will be a success for you and your team. The problem I always face with PvP online games that you can bet on is that you need to find a game which is easy enough for many new players to learn quickly, but still offer the possibility to become an expert in for some people who are willing to invest a lot of time and money. So you need to find a good balance between randomness and skill. This is what made Poker so successful, even an inexperienced gambler can get a decent hand and beat a professional player. For a complete new project that is looking for an active player base I would recommend to make your game a free trial version first. Maybe even offer some promotions for people to try out your came. The only real option to get players to stick around and play regularly is to make it as entertaining as possible. Money is important too, but to really stick around and play a few times per week or even every day you need to really enjoy the game.   

   -    It's probably definitely different when the plans mentioned by the OP are finished, apart from getting different ideas, it's probably even better compared to other crypto gambling in this industry of the crypto space.

So even, I will not deny that I am also waiting for the good that can happen with their pvp games in the gambling crypto industry.

Let`s just wait a week. As we can see, the OP tried to start a year ago and right now we were waiting his new post for more than 2 weeks. I think it would be easy for us to wait one more week and to see something, we can to discuss.
But i still don`t believe that we`ll see anything.

As long as the casino can provide the best for users, their casino will be one of the casinos that many people will use because of this rare PvP game. So many people are curious about this form of PvP casino game. If the team from the casino can launch the casino on time, that will answer our curiosity and we can immediately try it. Hopefully, there will be a bonus for all of us when we try it ;D

We are supposed to test the beta in just a week and I hope the game is good because PVP is seriously rare on the market, one issue is even if we know this is going to be a PVP platform we have no idea what the game is going to be about since no link has been shared by @glexed, still I am hopeful we will get something soon and we can give our feedback to him, and when it comes to poker I would say is not as hard as you think it is but you will have to read a few books about it if you want to try it.

That sounds great, and on what platforms do you play online? I've been playing poker, and I've done some courses, I've seen some facebook advertising that pokerstars.net is on, but you can only play there if you have a paypal or skrill balance or payment processors that have nothing to do with the cryptocurrencies, but this is something that does not suit me because buying in paypal or a payment processor is a lot of trouble, it is only for poker, also a wonderful game in pvp mode can be black jack, and it is very exciting, the rest I see In pvp mode it is with ps5 and it is monetized but you have to spend a lot of time playing.

That's the only thing we don't know about OP if he's really serious about what he said dude, well, I hope what he says is true or else I'm sure a lot of people will be disappointed with him about this matter.

As far as I can see, there are a lot of good things expected in this matter in my opinion. And who wouldn't be excited because it's a strange start to the crypto-gambling industry. But let me look at it first and say that it is really beautiful.

That's true and it seems that many gamblers are really looking forward to PvP games who are curious and want to play them right away.
However, can PvP game development be completed quickly and is really feasible to use in the near future because it is not easy for a casino team to launch quickly. Teams must carry out due diligence first before launching at their casino.

Let's just hope the casino team can do well so it doesn't go past the time they said before. Maybe the casino team has invited a few people to test the site to see if anything needs to be fixed or added. And if this PvP game has been launched, maybe people's attention to try this game will also be large so that it can attract many people to register and play. Hopefully, there's some good news next week from @OP so we can see if the site is ready to roll out or if we are still waiting a while.

Looking forward to seeing what you guys as well so I'm posting here / subscribed. My biggest concern with this type of thing for you guys is getting botted so I'm curious what you've come up with to offer viable gaming solutions for players :)

No one knows but 1 week it is not a year, we can wait and don`t forget the OP`s promises. The idea can be wonderful, but i have lots of ideas that costs nothing, because i don`t know how to develop it.
And i agree - first of all we need to see something we can discuss. That`s why i don`t like such threads.

Yeah!  You are absolutely right! 

Even the name of the topic itself somehow suggests what is actually being discussed here.  For example, I can also write some beautiful name and add the words "coming soon".  And then also open a new topic here in the "Gambling" section, on our forum. And in the first post write that I offer simply fantastic gaming conditions for all players. Well, which of the BTT users will take such advertising seriously. More likely it will work  anti-advertising.Because there is no working site.And if it is launched by devs, then everyone will ignore it because of such a premature claim for success.So I did not understand WHY OP is doing this?

You should have given at least the prospect name for this project that you and your team trying to build. I've seen a lot of the same concept of projects about pvp games but didn't see many of them pursue a lot.
Not that I know of that became successful because many of them likely just gone out of the wind and that's how most of them ended with such. But let us see on your progress with this launching.

I don`t understand the OP. When i was a child a could say something about "i`m doing something wonderful and i can`t tell you what it would be, just believe that it would be wonderful". Today i prefer to show the result of my work.
PS. The OP told us 7 days ago about "we`ll see something". But he told "next week", so the final date is monday i think.

It's been almost a week, and @OP hasn't come back yet. I wonder when he will return to his thread and explain what he has been up to with details, including saying that the casino site is almost done and the launch is getting closer. He is still busy taking care of his unfinished site, so he hasn't had time to return to this thread. After all, if the casino he built could be more attractive than other casinos, it could make a lot of people curious and want to try it. @OP could throw in a little bonus to get their attention.

Why not make an announcement thread for your promotion it's good too to have more curiosity for the players with your advertisement, also it's a good thing too another PVP game for the gamblers who could want to play more but whats the difference between another gambling casino?. Also, you make a thread ideal to have an update looking forward to your project.

I think there are bonuses to do that as one of their marketing strategy in a casino starting pvp games.

    I noticed a little bit that there seem to be a lot of expectations here in these comments made by op on their planned pvp games. I just hope they don't give up and don't give frustration the community in this forum with what they do.

Yes of course. as long as the casino provides the best for its users, the casino will automatically have a plus where the gamblers. but related to the PvP game that OP will launch. last time OP made a post. he said, they will release their first beta game. but it seems a week has passed, I don't know whether they have planned carefully or are still having technical problems. I wonder if OP will actually release the beta version of his first game in the near future. and if so, it will answer our curiosity.

but I doubt it, because the OP did not provide details on what they are planning in their PvP game project. plus, the OP doesn't participate much in the threads he creates. OP should be actively involved, especially to answer the curiosity of our members in the community and provide a little clue for our description of what games he will release later. To be honest, I'm quite curious about games with the PvP genre. so, let's just wait.

Personally, i am expecting the launch of this game, enough of the normal house against the gambler kind of games we've played and enjoyed for several tens of years now, its becoming boring already, I think its time something new and different hit the gambling industry, a game where gambler can challenge other gamblers to a fight would be really amazing, and i think its one that will become popular really fast if the actual game is interesting enough.

But is there already any advance from the OP? I'm quite curious about what sber has for the platform, when can it be released? What games will you have? because I have seen that they have a lot of participation in the thread, but I have not seen many responses from the op, lest we end up as the bride at a wedding, dressed, rowdy and without a wedding. How about where they leave us like this, without any guy from a site with a PVP game and everything here is a possible op deception, it's not that I think badly but there are so many wonders that one already thinks badly, here I have learned that what is very good you don't have to believe it too much.

A week passed, any updates or you need more weeks for your beta version project? Why dont you give some more clues about your project by giving images so we can see how your game looks like and maybe it will attract people to keep their eyes in this thread while waiting for it.

Nope. The OP told "next week". So we all can count and we can say that week is passed, but "next week" ends on Sunday. Let`s wait a bit. But i`m sure that the OP will fail. I never saw any successful ideas from the threads that started in such way. I think we`ll hear something new with the new announces "next week"

Casinos usually give bonuses, especially casinos that have just launched their business, especially in this forum, to attract the attention of those who are used to playing gambling. And this strategy can be said to have succeeded in attracting us to try to experience playing gambling at the casino. Still, the casino can provide other interesting things that make us feel at home playing gambling. New casinos must pay attention to this to develop their casino into big business. Indeed it is not easy and takes time and it depends on the seriousness of the casino team to work and ensure they can achieve their targets.

It's been a week since they last replied to their post. Maybe they still need to fix something related to the casino and haven't returned to the thread here. I don't know how much longer it will take @OP to be able to provide an update on the site he is working on with his team but hopefully, it won't be that long.

Maybe they want to surprise us so they don't give us the project details and don't come back more often like other casino reps so we seem to be waiting for something uncertain. I think many of us are also curious about games in the PvP genre because this is not often found in existing casinos.

It sounds like you and your team are developing a new table game platform that will feature player vs. player and multi-player tournaments and a public chat room for players. You also mentioned that it would be built around a Defi Token project to gain enough publicity for the game's platform. Also, decentralized finance (Defi token) is a good initiative and a unique concept for promoting the games platform. I wish you and your team all the best in your project, and I hope it will be successful.

No, it sounds as "i have nothing but i want to say that i would create something great". And if the OP even would show us anything on Monday, if it would be his own token, the only thing that i can recommend is not to buy it, the only way it can be used it is pump-dump trading. And even in this way i can suppose just one pump and lots of dumps.
PS. 2 days. tic-tac.

At this point we should lower our expectations as there has been no update for longer than a week and even the most permissive interpretation of what it means the term next week is near to pass already, so with this in mind maybe it is time we move on as it is unlikely we will see anything materialize out of this, which is a shame as I like PVP games and it would have been interesting to see what kind of new game someone could come up with.

It`s Monday today. And it means, that the OP failed himself one more time. As it was predicted. I want to repeat: i`ve never seen something interesting when someone tells that it creating something wonderful and has nothing to show. He looks like a boy this moment.
PS. Is someone here, who still believe the OP?

creating a token for a casino is a good idea and this will boost the casino and make it more recognize especially when investors start buying and the tokens. There are many casinos here that have there own token and this had been boosting there casino. If the casino team and very relaible and good in promoting the casino then this will make more gamblers to start testing the site.

and in the end there wasn't any update by the OP. look to this day a lot of people who talk about the OP seem to fail to develop as he says.
developing a PVP game is not very easy, especially if the game is made different from the games that usually exist in other casinos.

whereas everyone in this thread was hoping something new and huge would happen but in the end nothing happened. or maybe the OP is still busy with his activities ???

Nope. We can`t see something positive about devs or the OP. They didn`t do anything positive from the beginning of the thread. I don`t even think that there are devs - as it was marked at the beginning of this thread - the OP tried to find programmers a year ago. So, if he even find them, think how long they will develop casino.

I'm really curious what a slot machine looks like in PVP mode. How would you play against someone on a slot machine? I know that in some games it is very feasible, such as Black Jack and poker, even any card game can be adapted, there are many things that are taken into consideration in this regard, it cannot be denied that most of the games that seek the most They are poker and poker tournaments.

Poker is a very popular game on our forum, in fact I have seen many users who seem to play very well and they must be monsters at playing, some have said that they have played all their lives, and that makes all the difference, because apart from a Possible natural talent is also accompanied by their experience, there are some who feed their talent with contests and are constantly updating themselves in terms of strategies, which is why these games seem more viable to me than adapting them to PVP much better than slots.

not sure about that , it will boost a casino? this will be depending mate about what king of advertising and team that continuously bringing updates towards the site and those are the qualities we wanted to find in each casinos.
but indeed that it will help also increasing their momentum when investors trust the coins/token and this will make them more trustworthy .

I have not played it yet, but I saw it posted on a social media platform from a crypto gambling content creator. I was aware of it after Rollbit launched the PVP Bonus Battle, but have no idea how it looks like. But i watched the vlog and it's basically just a regular slot games, but you can play with several different players (up to 10 participants per room) the player who has the most  win will get all the bets pooled from all the participants.

It all depends on how the casino can introduce the token to the public and promote the token so that more people use it.
For now, the competition for casino tokens is still wide open and they can still get a good position in the market so that casino tokens can also compete with other types of tokens or coins.
But the casino should research and ask for advice from loyal members on whether creating casino tokens is a good thing for casinos or whether casinos don't need to create casino tokens.
Casinos should be able to offer what their excess tokens are to their members so that many people will be interested in using them.

As for me, token can help only to attract money. And it can give an impulse only if the casino owners would use these money to the casino development. But mostly they use it in their own purposes. In this thread i think the only thing the OP can to do is to create his token and try to sell it to investors. All the money(or the main part would be stolen).

Does OP have any updates on the PvP games that they are planning? There are quite a lot of commentators here who are waiting for his updates regarding this matter.

This OP is also a bit hanging and suspenseful in the community here, hehe... But even so, I hope that they start well with the games they are planning so that everyone who wants to try the PvP games can trust them correctly and fully.

well, I love this if will be systematic and trustworthiness .

and also the public chatroom is usable because this will be the roots of all communication .

waiting for the update , best to do it earlier as you have already released your Idea and popularization here.

or they already Lose their confidence depending to our response here? or maybe they have gone for nothing and not interested anymore.
but lets Hope that they will make an update in the sooner time because I am also interested to what they will be releasing(if there is more)

There won't be more than this... there were too many announcements in the past, but I never saw anything concrete. I assume that it will be the same this time, there will be no updates, and I really doubt we will see any games released. Sad but true.

I think there will be a long wait before we see some serious site where it will be possible to play PvP games with stakes.

Well, it was the last message from you here so far and we didn't see what we could evaluate and try, I understand that platform development is sometimes not predictable, in any case, is it possible to expect something in the foreseeable future, you could share screenshots of the development to begin with.

The last time he gave a reply was back at the beginning of this month, saying there would be an update a week after his reply. But till now, he didn't even go back to his thread, and it seems he forgot. We don't know how long to wait for him to come back, and we also don't know if he is serious about his project.

Perhaps he's still not ready to give the update and working on everything until it's ready. He should have seized the opportunity that we've been waiting here to see what the casino looks like.

Actually, why open such a topic?  So that later my colleagues in our forum would look for OP?  And just asking questions to unknown people?  At the same time, it is clear that the very attitude towards the fact that the OP proposes only to change for the worse.  And if such a new casino, which is discussed in this topic, suddenly appears, then at least some BTT users will treat it with distrust. 

It would be nice if the OP understood this and at least somehow began to answer us!

One more week and still no any information from the OP. Is someone surprised? If the OP wants to get some investments or just some attention to his product he must post links to something, we can to test. Now there is nothing to discuss. It is silly thread with newbie OP that has only words and dreams without any product.

You're right there, it's been over a month and OP hasn't given any updates about what he announced in this thread section. And from what I saw, many of the communities here in the forum are expecting good things in this regard.

     Because, strangely, the category is a casino PvP because it's rare nowadays to have PvP in crypto gambling. If within a week there is still nothing, let's not hope anymore.

I would say that it is one of the best things that this year could bring, it would no longer be what we are used to seeing but something totally new and innovative.I just think that most players who are fans of poker, BJ, and many other games would be asking the dreams of the palatefora to adapt their favorite games.But it would be good if they could put some rules, against abuse of the system, not letting children in, and of course I don't know, but I think that everything related to KYC would also come in, which very few like. Also something very important that they do not put themselves with prohibitions because that makes many people stay there with discomfort or something, that it is a crypto platform with few demands. What I sincerely hope is that the platform that is created meets these minimum requirements, that they let those countries enter (that none were prohibited) and that they do not bother with KYC, that it is not something essential.

Games that are in pvp mode are highly sought after even by p2p gamers because they put everything they know to the test and this is very useful because it brings a large community and if it mixes with the community that makes a normal casino it would be very interesting. because who knows which is the best community or which has the best chance of winning, I lean more towards players who are in p2p mode 'because they are players who spend more time playing, not counting players who are of other styles of games like mporg and it may appeal to players on PS5 and others because they are already open and it is available to play on ps.

I know many gamers, and especially one that the only thing he does is test games, that the only thing that is dedicated and works is to fix electronic devices, if there are no places that look for him to test games.I am sure that if I tell him that a platform like this came out, he will spend day and night playing  and I know many older adults who love the casino, and who adore poker, if I tell them that there is a PVP game platform and that they can be in live tones, I am sure they will love it.

It is possible that it is difficult to develop or the gamblers have not serious interest in it. Or the OP just don`t even know what he wants to do and told us just strange dreams that have nothing common with reality.
Anyway it doesn`t matter because the OP failed and, i sure, he wouldn`t find any money for this idea.

Actually the development of PvP games has been eagerly awaited by many gamblers if it can succeed on the gambling platform, but it's really a pity that the OP who made a thread about the development that will be carried out regarding PvP games actually died in this thread and there is no further explanation.
Actually there are a lot of them and I often find threads that he made and then abandoned by the creators, I don't know what they mean but things like that are actually a little detrimental to other users because those who really want to know information are just ignored by OPs who don't responsible.
Indeed, PvP games are very rarely found on any gambling platform. That's why I say that this game has indeed been awaited by many gamblers because it includes new game features.

@OP hasn't gotten back into the thread and explained how far they've come with their project. And during that time, we were still wondering how the project was progressing and whether it was still in progress or had stopped in the middle of the road before it was released. If you look at his profile, he last replied that he would update us with an update in beta next week. But the truth is that he still hasn't returned to his thread, and it makes us wonder if he won't be back.

Maybe the project has stopped or there is some other reason that we don't know. So we will never know what games are on the site or what the site is like. And maybe he also forgot to provide more info about the site.

It's mean the @OP already failed to prove his own words, he already disappointed everyone before he launch his casino, what if he already launch his casino and there's a complaint from someone? there's a high chance the @OP will disappear just like this one. It's a red flag where the @OP can't be trusted and we should be wary if there's a casino have same theme about PVP launch in this forum, it's might his casino but he's using alt account lol.

In the case of marketing I am an advocate but since almost everyone wants to have a PVP juice platform a signature campaign is the best to make the traffic more authentic, here on the forum it is always good to have signature campaigns . signatures, because the players here tend to be more serious and confident.

The traffic that you can sometimes get on twitter is not that authentic, it is better to have natural traffic by recommendation of other players.

And always comply with the payments, there are players who are very delicate with that, and if they see that you do not give them their money, the site can be classified as a scam.


That's what we don't know, sometimes I think OP still needs to develop the site and that's why he hasn't come to the forum.

To clarify everything with this topic and where OP eventually disappeared (and will he ever appear here or completely abandon the topic he created?)

it’s probably worth just talking about the topic of the topic itself - about gambling  PVP. In my opinion, such online games are quite inconvenient because the actions of opponents can be too irritating for you during the game. For example, an opponent was playing, playing, and suddenly he was going to have lunch in a restaurant, he left everything, he didn’t tell you (he just didn’t consider it necessary to warn you >:(). And what will you do? Wait for him to eat there, get enough food and return to the game. Or maybe he wants to sleep after a hearty dinner? Well, what kind of game is this, some kind of nonsense.
Or you still need to be well acquainted with your opponents so that there are no such irritable situations that make the game unpleasant.

OP was last active on the 18th of this month and which means that he ought to have been seeing the thread he created and beside he actually created this thread hoping to get some suggestions from people and not responding simply means that he has no regard to the opinion nof people and if he was seeking the opinion of people, he should be aware that there will be criticism and expect everything to go jus as he thinks.

I also agree with you in the inconveniences of the pvp gaming and most times the attitude of gamers are so annoying as most times it seems they forget that they're playing the game against a fellow human and might want to pause the game at anytime without having to put into consideration how their opponent might feel at the moment.

Yep. I was sure that the OP can`t prove his words from the beginning but decided to wait when he told us about "next week". Nothing changed and i would recommend everybody to avoid the OP.

He has nothing to say and the same time he is too coward to say the truth. It is classical child behavior - to say something and to avoid responsobility for the own words. I only can recommend to remember the OP and to avoid any contacts with him

Well, all construction of a company takes effort, and also in most businesses it is not that you make profits all at once, sometimes a casino, like every business, has losses and when there are losses it is when you should focus more on seeking continuous improvement, It is not easy, that is why sometimes we hear it said that starting any business is not easy, because it takes a lot of money, but you have to sustain it to be able to have an ROI in the time that was planned, of course, I assume that in a business a person has to manage their investments and calculate in time when they will recover their investment without zero profit.


I really like to be very positive, I would be very happy if OP came back with the site already established, it would be coll because the topic here is interesting, many of us like PVP games, it is not nice if OP left and will not come anymore, because somehow we have all contributed what we want to have so that they can have a PVP platform considering everything we want.

I am sure that if they make a platform like we have provided here, it would be a very good business model and it would always have a lot of traffic.

I would say this project is already failed even before the beta stage launch. On Feb 2nd, Op said that the beta stage will come within a week but no more updates or news after more than 3 weeks. If I have to guess, maybe OP has realized that pvp based game will not attract many gamblers and it will be hard for him to make money from his own project then he decide to cancel it or maybe he is working for something else now.

PVP gambling has low chance to be successful because when someone want to play, he need to find the other gambler which want to play on that's game too, no one will want to wait for long time to find an opponent. AFAIK there's no any PVP casino in this forum is successful, most of the time people are only curious and try for few times, then don't want to play it anymore. It's better to set up casino vs player just like the others, but you can add and improve your casino in order to be different.

In business we can`t use our feelings and wishes. The OP started this thread by himself, later he told us about "next week". And nothing done yet. As for me - i can`t believe such a man and i don`t ready to give my money for someone, who lies me. And it doesn`t matter what problems the OP has - he must make what he tells.

We've seen over the years that there are some companies or platforms who had launched up their pvp game and ending up on dying because there's no much interest when it comes to these kind of games.
People do usually stick out on luck based games which it do give out fast results and outcome could give out without waiting that much unlike on games which are strategic based ones.
You cant really be that have the patience on waiting up for so long but it do really actually falls down on someones preference since not all would really be having that kind of patience
when it comes on waiting on something.

There's no denying the allure of a good game of chance. As long as everyone has an equal shot, I enjoy and find more interesting the games that demand skill and understanding. Games that necessitate strategy and perseverance are, in my view, more enjoyable since they result in a genuine sense of victory, especially when you beat your opponent. There is no foolproof method for selecting games that will appeal to everyone because of the wide variety of personal preferences. What matters most is that you have fun, whether you're playing a fast-paced game or one that demands you to maintain concentrate for a longer period of time

   -   You may have a point in what you are saying, honestly, I relied on what OP said about this plan they will make for PvP games here in crypto gambling.

That's why I feel frustrated with OP, to be honest, maybe I can say that this is a failed plan that most of this community should not expect to happen in this field industry. It's a pity that many people expected this game and I am one of them.

let's try to be genuinely happy for one another's achievements and be patient enough while at it.
Op never stated when he'll be done with his project or how much more is left for him to be done, so we can't say in the next 3 or 4 months, we can only hope he gets through because sincerely, it's not easy inventing or starting something new.

I think these games will accept cryptocurrency for play and Bitcoin precisely I guess and I was also concerned about long this games will be in existence or relevance beside it seems the pvp gaming aren't played so much lately by users because it doesn't have much of players visiting their sites.
I also don't think this will be their Ann thread since the OP wasn't making an official announcement but rather seeking the opinions of others to help make decisions on what he intends building.

But it is very easy to create a thread without nothing. And tp promise results next week. The most part of us understand that it is a big job to develop something unusual but not the OP. No one asked him to create this thread and to give such promises, but he did it. And it is normally that the members have questions. How can we trust someone, who`s only result is creating a thread?

Managing a business is certainly never easy because business owners need to evaluate what they have achieved and what they want to achieve in the future. Thus, he could adjust the strategy he wanted to make so that it would go well and achieve his plans. This requires the cooperation of everyone in the company to achieve their goals together. By realizing this, those in the same company will work even harder than before. But in this case, it looks like @OP is working alone or he has a team behind him. But unfortunately, none of them came back here and explained why they hadn't provided more information about the project.

As the OP said they have finished game development but they probably want to build a token based gambling platform with their games. That doesn't seem very easy. Moreover, the OP had said that he would make an announcement about this soon, but it has not been done. Either OP didn't finish his development or else he failed his development. However, he made his post on 17th January, probably he will announce it after a few days. But according to OP's behavior I can't expect anything positive.

It may be that the OP has already launched his casino and we haven't noticed, and he may not want to come and say it, that's what I can think, in any case the thread is not bad, the thread gives information about what what is wanted The casinos and the users who give their opinion have ideas that can be taken advantage of, this serves as an opportunity for other casinos that have already established their system to continue improving, nothing is lost.

There are casinos that create contests and promotions to have more traffic and real players. Starting a casino is difficult because there is a lot of competition, there are casinos that are very good and have been on the market for years.

That's super interesting and very new, plus it's innovative, I hope they manage to implement it, I'm a slots player, but I don't focus on trying to win, I use slots exclusively just for fun, something like when you play PS5 in one place and you pay by the hour, it's only done for fun, that's how I see slots, but if they do something like that it would be great to try and play like that, thanks a lot for the information, they need to do different things, that's it something that many will like, the fact that they do something different draws attention, everyone should innovate in their games.

Gambling is something that should really be for fun nothing less but it do always comes or turns out that it would really be meaning about on how to make money or profits on doing gambling and this what makes

people desperate.In speaking about some innovation or new ideas then it would be great to see if ever this one would be implemented or be applied.We do see common games with saturated or common promotions

and bonuses which do ends up on looking not interesting or simply boring.If those things is already available specially on slots then it would be interesting but of course
you would still need to spend tons if ever you are after for the pool prize.

Well, it's not bad, if it's in full development it's understandable that it can be lost, sometimes in this type of project one can sign that everything is ready and suddenly things appear that had not been seen and corrections have to be made, and the corrections here turn out to be quite strong because sometimes it includes the correction of many things and from the beginning of what has been programmed, the problem here is that things cannot go wrong, apart from the fact that you must have all the protocols ready so that there are no vulnerabilities that are often the Achilles heel when starting, however you should not neglect the thread, which is very interesting.


What happens is that there are many cases where people play because they need to multiply their money and that is something very risky because desperation is what sometimes leads them to make very risky plays and they can lose everything.

The best thing about this is always to put a part of the money in the game and if it is lost, leave it like that, if it multiplies, then it managed to do something, but I believe that you should not risk everything.

If he wants to attract investors, he must answer the questions, tell about new features, etc. The OP does nothing. So i can`t even imagine that he developed something and forget to tell us about it.
The ideas may be good, but it must be another thread with them. I don`t think that lots of members who ready to develop casino or improve their own casino would search here some ideas.

Yeah!  Of course, gambling is a real entertainment, sometimes reaching a nervous breakdown when the player loses the last money. 
But then he wasn't happy anymore. 
But this is ultimately an extreme case, although this happens in the lives of some very gambling people.  If here in the topic we are talking about PVP games, then it is worth considering the fact that if you lose and get upset, then your opponent in the game won and it’s just good and fun for him.  In general, it turns out that in PVP games, players simply exchange opposite emotions.  In this sense, such games are more interesting than just playing with an insensitive automaton. 
When you are the only one experiencing the emotions of the game.   :)
Of course, it's better if you win, but we all understand that losses are inevitable and gradually our money is still decreasing, as payment for the pleasure of playing.

And when everything is ready to be launched, the developer or team or even their representatives should be able to notify or provide information to the public that they will launch their site. Or if they're really not ready to launch yet because they're still checking things out, they can invite a few people to test the platform. This is necessary to find out how the platform can run and which ones need to be repaired so that it can run properly. And that's why creating a website is not easy and you need to pay attention to many things before launching it to the public.

I had fun with Slot Bonus Battles... it's simple, like in many other PvP games, you can join or you can create a battle, you just need to set buy-in and the number of spins. Who makes more profit from those spins takes the money! It's PvP, but I guess most of us wish to see some better PvP games than slot wars. It's not like we will be able to choose a slot for PvP slot battles, it will be just one slot and it will become boring quickly. Those who like to play slots will always turn to some casino with a long list of providers and even a longer list of fantastic slots.

PS: Still nothing from OP... as I said, I doubt we will see something more than his words.

   -   The problem is that gamblers don't think as you think, it's just that it's part of the gambling industry that most gamblers want to win and the rest because they've had a chance to win in gambling it's hard to get out in leaning here.

That's why it seems like it's better not to experience winning here in gambling if it turns out to be the reason for a gambler to become addicted and become a vice that will lead to neglecting himself and the family that he has as you say.

It is the mission of this thread and its existence, you have given at least one crucial point, OP, nothing, it does not appear, I think that above wanting to give a post we should assume that there is no interest in the objective of the post.

Closing comments would be a bet that surely does not come true, but let's try to have a symbolic blocking of these threads.

Because the thoughts of a gambler, more so if he has become a gambling addict, are being able to continue playing and have the option of being able to win the game with a big enough profit that it can change their life.
So it will be very difficult for gambling addicts to have more positive thoughts and be able to think long term about their life and economy.
Anyone who starts gambling will eventually only become an addict and they can ignore everything when they are in gambling, even work and family will be forgotten for a moment. This kind of thing will actually have a negative impact where they can lose everything valuable to their own family too. will gradually leave them.

On the one hand closing comments will help to forget this thread, but on the other hand, i think that we need to remember the OP. If he will create new thread with similar idea it would be easy to find this thread and remember to the OP, that he can`t develop anything more than a year.

   -    You are right in what you said, commenting in this thread section should be stopped because OP has not given any updates to those who have commented here. Apparently, no PvP games will take place in a casino.

In short, it seems that all of us here who hoped that what OP said about what he announced on this topic will come true are just being pranked. I support what you said this mate.

It seems to me that you are mistaken.
Not all gamblers eventually become addicted to gambling to such an extent that they can be considered drug addicts, people who are in need of proper treatment for this addiction and then preventive measures.  Just the vast majority of players just gamble and do not experience any irresistible desire to constantly sit down for the game.  The bulk of all players in the world, I think, play occasionally, some more often, some less often, but this cannot be called gambling addiction because such people are just having fun.  And have fun. 
And by the way, most people think that losing money is just a payment for fun during the game. 
And also a payment for the joy that you received if you  won. :)

9 pages and seems like still no updates ???

I can agree when we are talking about gamblers, but now we are talking about potential investors and the OP that makes great announce and nothing except it. The gambler is a player(the most part of them) and knows that he is in casino and has a big chance to lose, but investor spends his money to get more money. He has to spend time, analyze project, decide how much he is ready to spent, etc. And he can just read this thread and save time and money.

Well, the truth is, with all this, it is very difficult to launch a casino and at the same time have a token (the casinos that have a native token have not done well) it is also a fact that they are going to be very interested in the token and if they are going to take it to a respectable level, that is, if they can take it to a centralized exchange, and things can hardly be good, they always start well but at some point I don't know what happens, but they go off the rails

The fact that the casino has or is going to have a token, the work is double, that is something that complicates things, with respect to Op it is a pity, you have many ideas but everything remains up in the air.
A PVP casino would be something innovative, it would be a great business model that they can set up,  when they succeed, it will make other old casinos start to generate new platform to integrate the games in pvp mode.

And it's also been almost 2 months since OP hasn't provided any updates regarding details and development plans for the PVP game which according to him their team will soon do.
Whether this development plan is actually being implemented or is it just a new idea that will be implemented, we all don't know.
Maybe there are already some members of this forum who are curious so they can't wait to see or try the development of this game, is it successful and worth playing? We've also seen that up until now they haven't been active on the thread so there are some questions they haven't been able to answer.
If indeed the development of the PVP game on the Defi token project is successful, it might make an interesting first game, but we also don't know if this is real or just back story.

Yes, you're right, but even though op doesn't give updates in the section he made, there are still people posting and maybe somehow still hoping a little that op will fulfill these plans.

      But I can't expect because there are no more updates, what else can we expect in 2 months when no news is given about his first announcements here in this forum section.

I don`t think that someone still believe. The main purpose(at least for me) is to remember members about the OP. Everybody must know that it can be dangerous to your money to believe the OP.

No updates, no demo, no the OP. Just when the OP would create the new thread how he developed something especial we`ll post link to this thread there. It can save money to some members who is ready to invest.

There is no certainty about how it will go regarding the PvP game that Op will launch. Last time, the OP said that in a week or so a new update will come with a beta version. but after that, we didn't find anything new. in fact, on several occasions I have tried to visit this thread. though, just keeping an eye on it. even so, I will not assume too far, maybe the OP is constrained by the project he is planning. or, experiencing some technical issues.

Even so, it's best not to get your hopes up that the OP will continue this discussion. Regarding whether it is feasible or not, we will find out if this project is actually running. So, in the meantime we can't assume anything other than waiting for the OP to re-engage in the discussion in this thread he has created. if there is no update, just ignore it. it seems, the project didn't go according to what the OP had planned.

I believe that this topic should be closed already as there’s no updates from the OP in more than a month since he promised their PVP game launch.

If it’s just the UI interface only that taking this long what about the games? I’m sorry if a bit harsh here but you could start your ANN topic after making the UI ready at least

Actually, with great difficulty I understand such developers, programmers and marketers who begin to discuss their project at a stage when there is really nothing yet.  Or the project does not work very well, it has a lot of bugs, there are daily updates, there are no normal tests, and so on.  It's just a marriage and no one needs it.  On the other hand, such devs take a very big risk, because even if they manage to make a good project, they still have the image of hacks and scumbags for a long time. 
And this scares off customers and, accordingly, will not allow the project to earn a normal profit. 

I certainly do not know why OP decided to open such a topic?  But it is obvious that if he abandoned the topic, most likely the project itself was also abandoned. 
The question is - why was he wasting his time so that he would continue to be here, among BTT users, no one would believe? 
Why does he have such a negative image? 
I consider these actions of his to be wrong, erroneous.

Yep! If you have nothing to show - just wait a bit, until you don`t ready to show something interesting. Such threads i saw in 2018 when there were lots of people ready to invest in everything. The best words that time were "Shut up and take my money!"
Today it doesn`t work so but the OP created the thread anyway. With such thread he even can`t get some money with the token - he even didn`t create it. So he made all mistakes that were possible.

I understand. Beginning a project from start is risky, particularly in tech where there are so many uncertainties. But, with the appropriate attitude, even the hardest tasks may succeed. Then, divide the project into achievable tasks. This keeps you organized and simplifies the process. After you have a plan, you may tackle each job. During development, opinions from others is essential. This will help you find bugs early and save time and trouble. Don't hesitate to request assistance! Admitting ignorance isn't embarrassing. Step-by-step achievement is the key. Appreciate modest victories and don't give up if things don't go as planned. Perseverance and positivity can achieve anything!

Maybe if anyone is still expecting from what the op has said about the PvP development plan, they are curious and really want to see the game.
Not only you but me or even the majority of users who provide feedback here would have been impossible to expect what the OP had planned.
It's better for us to see or expect other projects that are better and more real in their development.


That's right, because updates and information about the development of the PvP game are no longer available, it's not very good to believe what the OP has said.
Even if you want to spend money on development, it will only make us experience losses or lose money.
But have there really been members here who have spent money on the development of that game?
If there is I hope not with a large number because it will be very disappointed.

I think that no one spend some money here. And it is due to the OP`s mistakes. He could made a token and try to sell it. In this way someone could bought it and wait something. But he didn`t do even it. This is awful mistake for the OP but it was good for the members - it saved them money.

The gaming industry has never been threatened and expectations have always been met with the games it offers, which means that the results are always what the owners want, based on this, no measures can be taken to go further, except unless they are compromised to do it because the profits are not the same, for the enemies of the casinos they always claim that the problem of the casinos is addiction, but the casinos are not to blame, in the casinos minors should not be allowed to enter of age, adults are allowed in, and an adult should already have a sense of responsibility.

As you are planning to launch or if possibly  at the verge of launching, I would advise you to engage in advertising and promotional campaign because you would have some strong competitors to contend with as they have been around and on ground before your inception. So therefore it will be nice you seek the expertise of a good signature campaign manager to help you promote your casino here. A reputable manager with large followership can handle that and if I may suggest, you can contact Royse777 for your promotional campaign and have it in mind that the minimum you could run your campaign for a wider and strong publicity is at most 8 weeks  and above as the case maybe.
Looking forward to seeing you launch your casino and campaign soonest.

We understand exactly what you convey. to build a project, it is not as easy as we play the game they are carrying in the project. and yes, there may be a lot of crashes going on, like you said for example. lots of bugs, daily updates and also many other things that the OP didn't take into account beforehand, so the project didn't go well.

But at least, before the OP posted his project, he first made sure everything was according to what was planned beforehand. anyway, in the OP's post, it looks like the OP and his team are ready with the project they're developing, that's why they also announced this thread. this indicates, that the project will soon be launched. and this is corroborated by the OP's post the last time he made his post.

Unfortunately, there is no continuation regarding this PVP game. even before, I thought that we would have something new. maybe also, this project offers its own uniqueness. however, as we know that there is no renewal at all. so in essence, we have the same question.

All this is of course correct. 

But I'm not talking about the case when some very active entrepreneur organizes his business and stubbornly and gradually goes towards his goal and the prosperity of his business.  With this approach, anything can work.  What I'm saying is that guys like OP most likely just jumped out of the box, opened a thread with their idea, wrote a few posts, replied a few times.  And then they abandoned their topic.  Such guys, in my opinion, are not able to bring any new project to its logical conclusion and the real organization of a successful business. 

In the end, it all depends on the character and perseverance of a particular person who undertook to organize a new project. 
And not all people can handle it.

Well I know that many are anxious to know what happened with op and his Casino development , but as they said , This thread is interesting because those who want to build a new Casino already have some ideas of what most Players want , so the thread is not bad ,it has very relevant information and it is also relevant for any Casino owner to decide to improve their Casino ,even if it is a very old Casino ,and that is what matters ,if a casino improves it means that things will get better and better and many will enjoy it and the Casino will continue to Grow ,that's good because the company is getting stronger.

yep it's true this thread is actually helpful for new casinos or old casinos to consider game developments that should be added on a particular casino platform. so there's nothing wrong with us as gamblers discussing PVP games that interest everyone here and later casino owners will be here to read some of the recommendations to consider and add PVP games to their platform.
I myself want a PVP game that should be in my favorite casino which is a game that I think is good enough to play when I'm bored of betting on several games that I play every day.
hopefully my favorite casino also read some of the replies here to think something different to the others.

Since the first time this thread was created, I have always observed it until now and apparently no more updates have been given by the op regarding his idea of launching a pvp game.
From the beginning the op seemed so enthusiastic about giving feedback about the ideas he was going to do but why in the end there were no more updates and information whether the project was still running as said before or had it stopped (failed).
At least if it is true that the planned pvp game project fails, the op should provide a clear explanation and then lock or delete the thread that has been created so that no one expects what the op has said and will do.

if you do it well and come here for more advertisement for a very long period of time, the number of people you need will still be there.

That means the OP only create the thread for activity purpose which must of them engaged as well. I have seen member rank and full member rank users come here to claim that their friends or they want to launch casino project (s) and needed users opinion and these options and suggestions were given but at the end, they didn't come come back to inform inform the us that they have done it or because of what happened they could not execute the projects. Likely this OP is one of them.

He had been offline for almost a month now which does indicate that he might forgot this thread or the project wasnt really realized at all.
Basing off with this comment:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435677.msg61697132#msg61697132

He had said about updates for next week but we havent heard any word from him.Therefore, we could conclude out that this project wasnt been materialized at all.
Its true that there's no much interest that could be raised up specially when it comes to PvP.

I think the options and suggestions are of no use anymore since the op has left the thread and has no good manners coming to explain what's next.
At least otherwise continue with the project the op should come here thread made to tell the truth so no one expects what the op project is from.
If in the forum there are many people like this op then



Does that mean the op just created this thread is just bragging which has no real.
Or don't the op's goal is to cheat and get some money from people who want to invest in fake projects.
Just forget what op said basically op delivered a fake project.

All this suggests that OP has already Established his uncles and has not wanted to say who he is, or that OP has not done anything yet we do not know, in the same way we as good players have already given our fucking lives, and the thread serves to That the main Casino owners see what we want so that they can implement something similar and grow their casinos, it is not bad, it is a business that can be Established at any time, and with this they can correct many Mistakes that were made in the Step, now they have all the tools to make them, to improve and to develop.

The problem is that there are no ideas from the OP and we have nothing to discuss. If the OP could give us some idea we could discuss it, but now we can only suppose what the OP wanted to create and what we want from the PVP casino. But without first idea our guess-works is about nothing - we can add some details but the main idea has to be from the OP.

Exactly, I just checked the profile of OP and it seems that the last post he made about this oncoming lounge was back in February 2th, so it has been over a month since we heard from OP.

I would have assumed we would look some advance or a beta version by now... in the meantime, other web 3.0 casinos have appeared around here, If I was OP I would try to be more appealing to his potential gamblers and show anything at this point; ideas recommendations and wishes of success mean nothing if there is no product to test.

Even from the efforts ops put into creating this thread, it already looks so cheap and just a shill, I ddon'ttake ops seriously and as a matter of fact, this topic is created just to spam this section which is not good enough and I suggested we report the thread to be locked to avoid further spamming since the ops do not show any interest in the discussion by contributing to the thread since it creation.
We have a few of similar threads that are created for similar purposes that are already lucked  I know in no time mods are going to handle this one too, if ops were serious, there would have lunch the project by know considering the lent of time spent already but from their efforts. here in this thread, it shows nothing at such will happen anytime.

We cant make out conclusions but by the looks of it then it is really that possible that he just might be bragging and trying to hook up some investors who might be that interested on investing the game.
Its not really that something new if we do speak about these possible frauds or scams that users do tend to do so considering that there are still people who could be easily get scammed.
IF ever the intent was really that real then its not shocking that people do come and go of this forum which they might really be that having the plans on launching or creating something
but totally forgotten that they had made out some thread on here and never came back.This is why lets just take this to be like that ordinary day where people could just simply
come and go.

But people like this op, if left unchecked, can one day really deceive many investors with their fake project designs.
There are not a few cases of fraud in the name of a new project in order to appear convincing and have a chance of success and have taken many victims from investors.
Threads like this should be flagged so that no one believes them and becomes a victim of fraud because the explanation the op gave is a little suspicious.

@OP can you give some more information about what you are doing, or is there not a real plan so far? It is always good to see some new games and new websites coming up.


Well leave the OP some time to post more details and stop the thread then. There is at this point no information about anything so far and therefore there is really no point in discussing about it.

I think that everybody understand everything about the OP. As i see there are just two reasons why we are still talking here. The first reason is to remember the OP. If he`ll decide to create a new thread with the same idea we can send ask him several question from this thread. For example why he don`t do anything except talking? And the second reason is that the idea of PVP games is interesting and it is possible that some casino can see this thread and create some PVP games themselves.

The OP didn't mention if the gambling site that he will be releasing is a web 3.0 or not but if they have a Defi token then web 3.0 will be perfect. Web 3.0 casinos aren't really new so don't worry if there are others who came out first than the OP. Time of release doesn't really matter but what matters the most is if the casino is already fully finished and has less bugs or glitches because many casino owners here are just rushing and ended up forgetting some things on their casino.

It only gives a bad impression to the visitors. Ideas and others that you said there can still be relevant as the OP can still read this thread without logging into his account and he might be developing the casino in the background.

As the OP's last login here was already a month ago, it seems this project may be another abandoned one.
But in any case, if this will push thru, a pvp-type casino game usually has the difficulty to survive, either web 3.0 or not.
So high likely that this project is a shelved one. Or maybe, the team realized the bottlenecks they need to overcome on this project.
In this particular industry, if they are not financially prepared, they won't last. Also, you need to be tech savvy to keep up with the competition.

You are right mate, I must admit that pvp games are a great concept for the gambling community, it is just that, it is still relatively new to everyone, and for anything new, we all know that it takes extra hardwork, commitment and resources for it to succeed.

From OPs last login, it is evident that he and his team have probably abandoned this project, but had it been that they were really committed to making this happen, and also have the resources(funds), and a good connection, I believe succeeding, (though not gonna come easy) would have been a sure thing for them, but unfortunately, I don't think they have the kind of money developing such a  game would cost.

If he was really developing something, he would have been able to give us access (at least privately) to his brainchild long ago. It's been almost two months since his last post, and he still hasn't given us any more information about PVP games.

What is odd is that the OP has been active according to their last active information on their profile, and if they were interested on giving us an update about their project they have the opportunity to do it and they choose not to.

So the most likely conclusion we can make from their behavior is that they have already dropped their project, because even if there was a delay on their platform it would be the easiest thing in the world for them to just let us know and give us a new ETA.

yeah maybe they delayed or canceled the PVP game launch as OP mentioned.
because in fact the OP has been inactive for several months and if there is a delay in the launch the OP should have told us all here.
even though, we are all here waiting and curious what PVP game will be launched by OP. but it turns out that the OP prefers to put his account to sleep for a few months without an answer.

In the first pages of this thread someone wrote that the OP was searching a programmer a year ago. I can suppose that he had find someone and created this thread. But after it something went wrong. May be the programmer wants money, or he can`t understand the OP ideas, or he isn`t qualify enough. The result is that the OP failed his project before it`s start.

Perhaps your thoughts are correct and good. 

I also do not understand why create new topics and then completely abandon them to their fate.  If the OP has decided not to tell us anything else, those who are interested in his proposal and are discussing this proposal.  By the way, at the same time, BTT users often give very valuable and correct answers.  But if the OP doesn't need that kind of information at all, then it would be right for the OP to close the thread in one minute.  And no one will waste their time on advice for him. 
This is elementary courtesy and respect for other users of our forum.!

It's easy if OP really has a good development idea and has great potential for success, he must have prepared everything including capital.
If the OP doesn't have the capital, he can certainly attract investors to invest in his project, but we can see that nothing is certain about this project, not even those with ideas appear here.
Every project that is good and has long-term potential, there will surely be many investors who offer their money to invest, so lack of money to start construction is not a good reason.
Actually I have an assumption that this project is not real or just a vague review.

Investors have risks too, so many good projects are low on funds due to inability to sell the idea correctly, that's why initial fundraising is still not a way to predict what's gonna happen to the project in a couple of years, some projects have very long start, while others launch quickly, become seemingly stable, but later become bankrupt in a couple of days...

But the unknown is still, we don't know if OP developed the casino and launched it? and perhaps he has not brought it to the forum, or in another instance he could have launched a platform but without PVP games and he has developed PVP games for now and is trying to see how it goes like this, there are many things that can happen, It is a pity that Op, despite being asked for more, has not come Back again, however, as I said before, this thread is very useful for those who want to launch their own casino and want to include PVP game features that are Sorely lacking in the casino industry.

there's a chance the OP is asleep. lol

yep that's true that actually this thread really helps people to find PVP type games that casinos have never seen before and maybe other casino owners who are here can consider adding this type of game in their casinos.
and I just read someone's thread who was looking for a casino that has Ludo type PVP games.
if this thread is still active maybe this is very helpful.

The OP account last active was March 27 which is just last 3 days ago. Probably they encounter some problem that delay the launch because the beta version supposed to be available on the 2nd week of February according to his last post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435677.msg61697132#msg61697132. His account is still active after his last update that only means they are still developing and checking here.

Give them some time to finalize their work and I hope that they will lock this thread for now since it was already flooded of conversation that already recycled.

My thoughts look the same with yours i think. I haven`t seen anything positive from the OP except words. And i don`t trust the words.


Exactly. If someone has an idea but no money and ideas how to realize it - he can create thread with the serious description. Even such description can attract attention. Better would be to show some demo version of course. But in this thread there is nothing interesting except the name.

but when I wrote the reply you quoted, the last OP was active in february but what date I can't remember.
yes, it is better that the thread is locked by the OP and added that the writing is in the process of development or anything that can make us all understand. because almost everyone here is curious about the PVP game that will be launched by OP.

we'll all give him time.

Enough time has been given for the OP to show some kind of results when it comes to the development of their project, and if there was some kind of delay it could take them just a few minutes to let everyone know this is the case.

Since this has not happened the most likely conclusion we can make is that this project has been canceled due to some unexpected problem that emerged, and while disappointing this is not surprising as the number of projects which die before they are even born is very high.

The funny thing is that we imagine something big and fabulous, but when it comes to implementing it, we will have a hard time, as it is out of our scope and we can't achieve it, as it needs some money to implement, which, for sure, if you are the only one developing it, is difficult to achieve. He undoubtedly encountered some technological, personal, and financial issues that caused him to abandon the project. Determination and hard work are also keys to developing these kinds of games, as it takes time to develop foolproof games these days.

I don`t think that it was even big idea. Of course the OP could imagine that it is something colossal, but it was only in his imagination. And it was nothing except it, may be an idea to get lots of money easily. But the result is nothing.
And you absolutely right - we have to work hard if want to get results. Or we`ll look like the OP - like a silly boy.

and now it's april, which means that it's been almost more than 2 months and there's been no news from OP and we have to make sure that OP's plan is cancelled.
rather than we wait and hope for something new and big but there is no reality.

2 months is not a long time but it is a long time to give OP some time.
after this I will not come back to this thread because there will be no changes made by the owner of the thread.

Well, this type of thing can be measured more and more in the future to be a better casino, if casino owners spent Reading this thread maybe they would make some arrangements so that they can be better, of course it is only suggestions, but sometimes small details make a difference, because a casino that is already well established is not something so viable to change certain things on the platform,Sometimes the changes cost but they are very necessary and if it is to improve they should do it, with that they have many things to able to keep improving.

In fact, the changes that are innovative in gambling and liked by a large number of users give advantages to the casino that first offered players this new opportunity.  But competitors will quickly realize that they need to copy the same or similar update in terms of functionality.  Or modify it a little and offer it to the players. 
Therefore, any improvement in the games of any casino gives it an advantage over its competitors only for a relatively short period of time. 
And with the development of progress in this area, such time intervals are constantly decreasing.  And the casino needs to maximize its advantage quickly and with the use of aggressive advertising.  Otherwise, you won't get a good profit. 
All this we have seen in recent years.

Yes, because if there are ideas for a project that is good and has long-term prospects that are profitable, one doesn't need to bother looking for sources of funds to build the project because there will surely be many investors offering their money and wanting cooperation with the owner of the project.
But it's a shame that lately there have been a lot of fake projects that are not clear and only harm anyone who joins and invests their money.
I'm not saying that the project made by the OP is a scam, but from all the feedback I conclude there is a suspicion that the OP is using his project to get personal gain.

Guys, please check the profile of the OP and you will see that he was active yesterday. This was not a prank because we are not in April one anymore but the only problem is the OP did not made any post. Could be possible that he was only observing this thread and getting ideas from the recommendations of the users in this thread/forum.

Maybe we can pm him now and he might respond. Let's ask him if what is the real status of his gambling site, if it was already done by some percent and ready to be released anytime soon or the project was canceled for some reasons but it was a shame because many people here are excited and have waited for too long for nothing.

Though not my wish, but from OP's inactiveness here, I believe we don't need a soothsayer to tell us that this project will not exist materially any time soon.
It is two things on my mind -
1. OP never started this project at all, he started this thread to probably get an idea of what gamblers think about this type of game.

2. He actually started, but his unable to continue due to funding matters, and maybe other issues like time, and also finding capable hands to join him at this early stage.

Which ever it may be, the plain truth is that we should forget about this and stop anticipating, if op was going to launch this, he surely would be very active here, and probably sharing progress with the development of the game to the community.

Lots of people thinks that it is easy to cheat due to cryptocurrencies and we often see such fake projects. I don`t know about the OP but even if he told us the truth it looks like that he wanted to get easy money and the same time wanted to create something. But due to several reasons failed. So he didn`t get money and didn`t get programmers to his project. Of course it is possible that he just wanted to get money and run away.

Problem i see with PVP games is that they are most likely skill based, and when we add inventives like money for the winners, the probablility of using hacks, bots or third party programs to help opponents rises exponentially. I have always wanted to play for example computer games for money among my friends, but that's because i trust my friends. However trolls and hackers use mods and hacks to cheat on online games all the time and they are not even doing it for money. So imagine how much those cheaters would rule every game when there would be money involved and an opportunity to cheat.

It may be that OP has left and has not wanted to continue with the project, but here what must be rescued is that the thread has been fed back with many things that the players like, and that they take advantage of to keep them very firm, one of them is that as I said before, the thread serves to let casino owners know that the launch of pvp games is very accepted, at least in the bitcointalk community they Accept and want them, that's why the purpose too, Anyway there are many things, investigations that Some members do to find out if the casino is Trustworthy or not.

The assumption that someone can easily cheat on cryptocurrencies is a big mistake because truly professional crypto users must have insight and experience in investing so it is not easy to be able to deceive them.
At least if the OP has a failure in his project he can put a notice in this thread and explain what he really means and explain the failure in building the project he has planned after that OP can lock the thread so there are no questions and confusion from the many users who have given feedback here.
But I emphasize again that I have suspicions about the OP making a project that is a scam and aims to get easy money by taking advantage of investors and I'm grateful that there don't seem to be any victims of losing money from the project that has been designed by the OP.

Did OP ask for some investment?
Did op ask for some financial back up?

If none, then we cant really tell that it is really doing some shady stuffs.For sure it is really just pertaining on something on a plan which hadnt been materialized.
Its true that it might not been able to make it happen because it might lack some funding or budget which is usually the case when it comes to this.
Some people are really that excited on announcing a certain project without even having that kind of development.

Isn't it incredible how cryptocurrencies evolved into such complex and nuanced assets? Riding these waves like a boss requires a true pro. However, keep in mind that anyone might fall for a prank or scam.

I'm glad to note that no one's money has been stolen from this initiative thus far. The vigilant and responsible work of the crypto staff is recognised. Keep your cool and look at the big picture, even if some think the OP is up to no good.

When the smoke clears, we can all take away some valuable insights from this conversation. Whether the topic is the importance of careful research before making crypto investments or the power of online squads keeping people in check, there is always something to be gained from a good old fashioned chat.

And this is a huge issue when it comes to the implementation of any kind of competition which relies on skill, cheats are so common that they takes the fun out of the games, and anyone which has played a competitive game online knows cheaters are everywhere.

I really think this is one of the main obstacles which has made skill based gambling games not as popular as they could have been when we compare them to other gambling games which are completely based on luck.

I`m long enough in cryptocurrencies so i know about it. But if remember how i started - it was easy to cheat me and i thought that the others were the same and i can easily cheat them. Some time later i understood that it was a newbie mistake. The OP seems to be such a newbie.


He ought to say us that he failed. But he looks like a coward that even can`t say the truth. I don`t like such people - if you say that you are doing something, you have to say truth anyway.

Cryptocurrency will continue to grow friends and there will be more and more mass adoption of crypto like the online crypto casinos on this forum for example, they have been around for a long time and new crypto casinos are always popping up so crypto adoption will get bigger over time.
Crypto is a digital currency asset that is known by many people around the world and has been able to prove that the development of crypto is very fast.
I am sure that in the future there will be even more spectacular developments of the crypto industry.


It's true, friends, there are lots of beginners who don't understand the dangers and anticipations that must be done when they are in the cryptocurrency industry.
Not only you, I have also experienced the same thing when I was new to and entered the crypto industry.
But those who are still beginners can overcome so as not to become victims of scams by learning everything and gaining enough experience.
It seems it's true that OP is still a newbie and still too new to crypto.

Well, I have always said something, if a person does not have the culture of being in a forum and reviewing it, it is something that can happen, because we always live here in the forum and we know many things, but a person who is setting up a casino, or designing a casino, you have to take many things into consideration and follow up, and I think that one of them Could be these,but maybe it is not in the priorities, I like to give the benefit of the doubt, because it is the creation of a company, is based on it, but since so much money is included,it is something that is delicate and must be done well in advance, how many casinos have not failed by doing things quickly and without capital.

The main difference that some newbies try to learn more about cryptocurrencies and we can tell them a lot(and telling for free) but the other newbies can`t understand this fact and don`t want to hear the old ones.
The OP`s try to looks a serious cryptocurrency user and programmer but we see such users too often to believe.

This is just another failure which couldn't takeoff and anyone with a half-decent brain could see this coming because PVP crypto based games are rarely successful based on what I observed.

I don't think that this was a shady project. Op clearly quit for reasons that only he is aware of.

In as much we don't see the happening side of this project let's just give him the benefits of the doubt by believing in the project just maybe  there might be an exception and he might just record a success.
 If most of this ideas newbies bring are really put to consideration there might be a little sense out if it, just a little, doing researches and findings is not an easy thing so kudos to him.

Dear colleagues, friends on this forum!  .  This is what comes to my mind, these are the thoughts when I read that someone has a great idea, but does not have the money to implement it.  I always remember in general the history of the development of all mankind and how many ideas invented by gifted people were actually implemented in the practice of people, and how many of these ideas were generally rejected even despite the fact that initially they collected a lot, a lot of money for their implementation.  And now, I think, for example, in the development of various projects, such as, for example, new technologies in blockchains, the output of really valuable products, in my opinion, does not exceed 1-3% of what is initially funded. 

So you can, of course, look for money for a good idea, but the probability of its success in further promotion and use is very small.

I don't really see this being the exception of I am being honest with you. Op has been active in the forum since his last activity was on April 9th, but his last post was way back in February something.

This alone implies that he gave up on this idea a long time ago. It wasn't really a feasible idea to begin with.

I don't think won't be the conclusion of the OP. To develop a good project takes some time, I don't believe that the OP has given up of his early idea of the project. If the Op was active on the 9th of this month then that is to say he is working on the project and coming here to see things and take some information and continue his project. He will surprise us one day with his project. It might be a long term project. Let us not draw the conclusion on the matter here.

Before making up some announcement then platform or service should really be that in complete and not still on developmental state or condition which it would really just mislead out people that it is already that functional, just like on what we do have now on where there's a posting about some PVP type based games be offered or lounge but still ending up on having no updates or words from OP
which it isnt really that shocking that people would be speculating on what happened on here. We do need to see something new but just like the rest been saying that in speaking
about PVP type games which it doesnt really get that much traction.

I have joined platforms that are for pvp games but they are not with Cryptocurrencies and they are quite optional and I think they should attract many players,and since I have not seen casinos that have this type of pvp games,it is Something new and if it is something again they would be the only ones who can do something and they will have a large number of clients,it would be great if they could do it because with that they innovate and have another means of entertainment,and a cryptocurrency casino of that detail with pvp games I don't know, and It's a shame, they should exist.

There are actually pvp games that we do have today just like on what we do have in blackjack.fun which you are really that against with other player but one thing that people will really be that in doubt is that
they couldnt really be able to assure if they are really fighting a real player or a bot which we know that it would really be a disadvantage for us. We are really that longing for a game which is something
that we havent seen before on which it would really be that interesting if we do see something that looks interesting. Lots of platforms offering games but there are lots
who do fail up along the way.

Nope. We gave him enough chances, but he didn`t use them. We said that he is ready for update long ago, much more than week he asked. And still no any information, no any post with excuses at least. The OP even hasn`t any idea how it must work but he announces something special. He just failed and don`t want to talk about it. I think that he`ll just change an account for the next such thread.

It's been two months since the OP said about the next update of their project but it looks like it's not coming as he didn't even gave any updates on what is happening behind the scene although I wish them success and see the output of their PVP games I just hope this would be a game changer and would attract a lot of players. Developing a gambling site is really not an easy task especially if you have limited source and fund and it would really consume a lot of time creating it.

The benefit of the doubt can be given to those which over some time they have shown they have kept their word and for some reason they are facing a problem which does not allows them to keep it this time around.

The OP has been given a lot of time and opportunities to at least come clean about the development of their project, and since all of what we received is their silence then we can only conclude they had big goals but not the means or the skills to reached them.

The majority of beginners find out about cryptocurrency briefly and don't really study it in depth, friend, so even if we tell them more it will be useless because they prefer the fast and easy way.
If we learn everything about cryptocurrencies, it will take a long time, even I'm sure that knowing all crypto learning in just 1 year can't do anything.
I myself used to study cryptocurrencies for more than 2 years and then I was able to understand and understand crypto and even then I didn't have much knowledge.
People like the OP are trusted too much because he makes an attractive and convincing offer for the long term but actually what the OP says and the project is not necessarily true about the construction.

Exactly! The only moment - i doubt if he had big goals. Such cowardly behavior makes me doubt in his goals.

Yes, it is. But for me isn`t difficult to spend an hour here and if it can help someone - it means that i spend this time not in vane. And all newbies differs - if someone hadn`t answer my questions when i started cryptocurrencies - it is possible that i could be like the OP.

The OP is still active on the forum last week. A sign that they are still working on this project and waiting for the update finish before they introduced here because they don't have any reason to still login their bitcointalk account if the project is already abandoned. There is no definite time given on his update besides on the likely scheduled time that he himself is not sure.

I think OP should lock this first and just unlock when they finally launch the casino. Already PM about this.

If they are working then it is really just that right that he should really be making out some updates or words at least when it comes to their progress because if we do look at on this thread alone then it does really shows up on how people been expecting on what OP is trying to deliver out.it did really make out that kind of curiosity which it had been followed and been anticipated but turns out that he had been ignoring out
at least on making out some response or giving out some words whether they would really be making this project to be launched soon or those are just false promises.We do know that it is really that hard to
expect on something which it isnt arent really be supposed to happen or can be done.This is why its better not to anticipate on things that this would be pushed through.

I have a bad feeling for the Op if he isn't actually working on the game he wants to develop.
Let's see from the few times he's been online in the forums he hasn't said anything in his own thread or maybe he just wants to intrigue these people about what he's up to and never does anything

I like your positive way of thinking. yes maybe it's true there is a possibility that OP is currently developing his project and wants to surprise us all by providing a very interesting PVP game for us to try.
but a little disappointment for everyone here is only when OP is active, people here just want OP to give a few words that make us all believe more that OP is developing his project. because sometimes I myself also don't believe whether the OP is really developing his own project whereas when he is online he doesn't give any news.

OP posting all these himself could mean he is developing this project all by himself. It could be that he is the jack of all trades but marketing always matter to make it up there. He needs more than just a huge fund.

I'm gonna be playing the negative here  :D PVP will be great, it will be appreciated of course but once it's launched many developers with bigger funds will simply copy the idea and release a game with more advantages.

I'm still trying to think positive. most likely, what the OP is planning is not going according to what they are planning with their team. maybe, along the way OP and his team encounter obstacles, whether it's technical problems, bugs, and everything that OP and his team miss. or maybe, they have problems related to financial problems. maybe that's also why, the OP delayed launching the beta version he previously promised in his last post.

Unfortunately, the OP didn't provide any explanation or claim regarding the project he is running with his team. whereas, the idea of ​​a PvP game seems to offer an interesting game. In fact, we will have a different casino than any other casino. at least, if this PvP game is present in society, we have many options when experiencing boredom. but so far, there is no definite development regarding this PvP game project. it seems, most likely the OP will not continue it. yes, considering the OP is not active in the discussion he made in his own thread.

Of course, I would also like to see more news about the development of this project in this topic. 

When the OP opened a thread here on our forum, it's obvious that he was imagining who would read the information he wrote. 
And the fact that he knows about this forum in general, and maybe he has been reading information here for a long time, tells us that he himself is a fairly advanced user of cryptocurrencies.  I think so. 
And here, after all, there are a lot of serious and literate people who can simply be entertained with some kind of fairy tales, unrealizable projects and dreams that everything will be done by itself, it makes no sense. 
Therefore, the information from the OP should be clear, concise and understandable to everyone.
 I advise you to write exactly in this topic.

Yes, there are already ways to do many things, however the owner of this thread has not yet appeared, although I have never been in Charge of a casino or its development, I don't know how long it can take to develop a casino to be launched and that it be Successful, I have seen some that have launched their casinos and with a lack of development and in the end end in failure because they do not have enough investment to invest in the security of the casino, and security is one of the most Important factors , because you can have only 1 game, but with all the necessary guarantees for them to continue, and the games would be integrated later.

Its better not to mind at all because we know that anyone could freely make some thread and announce something whether those things could be happening or not.So better not to stress yourself out on thinking

if this one would really be created/molded or simply launched.Promising out something is easy but on the time you would be creating one then this is the toughest challenge of all.
Theres no way that you could mold or create up something which it is really that havent been seen on this market or those type of games which arent creating that much interest.
Better some MOD would be locking up this thread because this would really just be creating a never ending discussion.

I think that any news we can see only in the new thread from the OP with changed nickname. His last activity April 09 and last post here was in February as i remember. And it was about "updates next week".
No one can hope to attract investors if can`t prove his words with results for such a time.

For sure, he is not serious, and it is just like his imagination, or he just dreamed of it over the night and posted it here. If he will provide a promising result, as he has found investors for his plans that we can see or check, then for sure it is possible he can attract more investors. But as of now, it is a ghost project, and we can't get anything done on it.

This should be a lesson for anyone thinking about creating their own casino with their own original games, creating a casino is neither easy, cheap or a fast endeavor.

A casino is a very complex business in which not only you need every single part of your website to work as intended as otherwise scammers could get advantage of any bug which is present, the amount of money needed to run it is very high while the marketing needs to be very aggressive as well since the competition against other casinos is intense, and this could explain why this project seems to have failed before it even launched.

Yes, it's not difficult for you, me and all of us to spend an hour here to get more knowledge because we have the intention and also understand the basics of cryptocurrency so that it can be easier to learn.
By that I meant those new users who prefer to ignore information that could be useful in favor of what they find interesting.
Whereas in a row of texts there is a very valuable knowledge so if they want to learn it, they can easily get more knowledge that they can have for life.
It seems that only a few people care about this kind of thing because it tends to be boring.

By the way the OP has completely disappeared from this thread and it would be better to just lock the thread instead of causing more feedback where there is a meeting point on PVP game issues.

May be i`m too angry, but i dislike people that can only speak. No one asked something special from the OP here, he told about update himself and as the result - left the thread.


In my opinion it would be better to pump it up sometimes. Or we can see something similar from the OP or some other OP`s nickname. Of course we`ll not see something interesting here.

I have read a lot of things and I have learned a lot, I am no longer interested in whether OP comes or not, because if in the future one ends up having a lot of money and wants to set up an online casino you already know more or less what can be done and have lists for that things go well, and it is something very complicated, whoever gets into the casino business has to know very well what they are getting into and have a lot of money to endure all the losses they have at the beginning, a casino that says that You don't lose at first, it's a lie, that's something we all know, and the only way is by having a lot of money.

I wouldn't be surprised that OP would see no future in this. The growth rate of AI products pretty much guarantees that these p2p games that require any amount of skill, will be flooded with AI bots. They are tireless, they have enough incentive, and it wouldn't take long until there were only bots playing. I am pretty sure that online texas hold'em games are already dealing with AI bot problem.

That's true because having a lot of money to build an online casino will help the owner allocate the money to the parts of the team to run the online casino. And indeed, to make a casino requires a lot of money, especially if, in the middle of a business trip, there are people who can win a lot and if the casino has enough balance to pay the winners, they can pay it immediately and this will help the casino to be able to attract more members because the casino pays the winners.

Until now I have not seen any casino platform that is in pvp mode that has been created or Launched as new, but it would be great if it happened,maybe the things that are expected have not happened,but I am aware that a certain amount of time has Passed and prudent enough to at least see something new, or have an idea that it is time for an advance of a new casino Regarding this, for me if a normal casino has work,I imagine that a platform has much more work and if It is new because it is more demanding.