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Title: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: libert19 on January 20, 2023, 12:38:20 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Dewi Aries on January 20, 2023, 12:50:21 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

They can use a different email and KYC so there's no point in tracking this way usually the provider can identify them by checking the gambling activity
I mean they will play using the same pattern so that the security team can catch them, have you ever heard of their accounts being frozen and being investigated? well that's when the security team checked it and decide whether they play fair or not.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: ralle14 on January 20, 2023, 01:28:26 AM
It's hard to say because I think regardless of having accounts between different casinos you can still get limited by the odds providers if you're a winning player since that's one of the main reasons why they limit users.

It's only a matter of time before the user would get caught again though since I remember reading an old post where gambling sites would sometimes help each other and provide information to stop abusers.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Silberman on January 20, 2023, 02:49:56 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
You could in theory circumvent those limitations for some time but there are simply too many ways to track you, they can use your IP, email, gambling patterns and many other methods, you also need to take into account that you will be violating their terms of service by knowingly trying to avoid detection and gambling over their established limits, so who knows what other measures they may take at that point besides limiting your account the moment you are caught doing this.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Strongkored on January 20, 2023, 03:01:58 AM
I doubt bookmakers do it this way, because bookies would not easily or even be able to disclose their user data to their business rivals unless they are sister sites.
The way gambling sites work to be able to catch a suspicious account is more complicated than we think, only by using a different email the gambling site can find other oddities because surely they have many benchmarks before concluding that the user will be hit by a limit.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: slapper on January 20, 2023, 03:20:03 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
it's definitely possible to circumvent account limitations by using different emails on different casinos, but it's not a foolproof solution. Some online casinos might also track users by IP address or other identifying information, so it's not a guarantee that you'll be able to continue gambling without any restrictions. Try to find and use other casinos.

Faking IP or using Tor can be a good alternative way but it can limit the speed and the experience while playing the casinos. VPN was my choice when my country prohibit many gambling websites but the connection speed was totally terrible. I guess it might be because I use free VPN services so that the server was always overload

That's why we should choose on-KYC or blockchain casinos because they offer full anonymity and allow us to fully enjoy the experience without any limitations. In the next few years we will see more and more blockchain-based casinos where people can join or leave without providing any additional information


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Plaguedeath on January 20, 2023, 07:51:38 AM
Faking IP or using Tor can be a good alternative way but it can limit the speed and the experience while playing the casinos. VPN was my choice when my country prohibit many gambling websites but the connection speed was totally terrible. I guess it might be because I use free VPN services so that the server was always overload

That's why we should choose on-KYC or blockchain casinos because they offer full anonymity and allow us to fully enjoy the experience without any limitations. In the next few years we will see more and more blockchain-based casinos where people can join or leave without providing any additional information
It's not possible to access a casino via Tor because they don't have onion site and I believe any licensed casino aren't allowed to create onion site since they're combat against money laundering.

on KYC casino? KYC = kill your anonymity, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Nah, every years any countries just tightening their rules, just like how Binance now ask everyone KYC in order to use their exchange. I expect next few years casino will become KYC casino, not zero KYC casino.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Oshosondy on January 20, 2023, 08:49:11 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
How come? You information only remains to the sites that you registered, but some regulations in few countries which they are proposing to regulate gambling can make this to be possible in the future. You can use different emails on gambling sites, but what about the KYC? That is enough to reveal you, and most casinos today require KYC.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: klidex on January 20, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
I doubt bookmakers do it this way, because bookies would not easily or even be able to disclose their user data to their business rivals unless they are sister sites.
The way gambling sites work to be able to catch a suspicious account is more complicated than we think, only by using a different email the gambling site can find other oddities because surely they have many benchmarks before concluding that the user will be hit by a limit.
Doesn't every casino site already have a management team that is quite good and reliable in their field?
Because the team is also responsible for running and all security on the casino site.
It may be difficult for us to be able to solve the problem but it is easy for the casinos to solve it.
Casino is a gambling business that can generate large amounts of profit so it's easy to be able to hire someone who is skilled in the field, especially in the field of hacking.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 20, 2023, 09:15:16 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

Not sure how can they track users account across multiple casinos? You mean this casino's are talking with each other? I doubt that is the case. For KYC, it has been deemed that sooner or later all casinos are going to ask for it.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Again, it boils down to your argument that casinos are colluding with each other and monitoring user accounts and email.

But you can obviously used different emails with different casinos, and I doubt that it will stop them from asking you KYC.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 20, 2023, 09:22:31 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Definitely you can achieve doing it but it may not last because they will definitely fish you out, they have their security network with expert's that monitors user's abuse on their system, I've seen so many tricks some gamblers developed not to get tracked by using a different email, new device and also by clearing all their cookies from the gambling site and so on but that is not good enough to stay secured without being caught, with time they got everything discovered and you got busted fron their casino.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Wexnident on January 20, 2023, 09:44:22 AM
Don't they limit users based on the amount they won instead? Though I don't doubt they have some limits that happened due to multi-accounting, even then, those'd be extreme cases where they somehow bypassed a rule that they had, basically doing a ban instead of a limit. I don't think emails are enough to bypass, maybe a VPN at least? Though if you get discovered that's a one-way ticket to being banned. They surely must have IP's stored, maybe they have another checklist for info first, then if everything gets a tick, they then start saving your IP to monitor you and possible multi accounts.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Jating on January 20, 2023, 09:55:25 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

It's the job of the casino to monitor each and every account on their system. And as far as a I know, they have a fraud department who flag down accounts. And if they find something suspicious, then they are going to require that account to undergo KYC.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

There is no stopping you from using different emails when registering, casino's are not going to look at your email. It's how you play your account, your history and such that will require them to ask for mandatory KYC. They are looking like game arbitrage or anything that they think you are exploiting their system.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Daltonik on January 20, 2023, 10:00:55 AM
I am not familiar with the fact that someone was blocked just because they had accounts in different casinos linked by one email, perhaps it meant that the player was already blocked in some of the online casinos before he was blocked in the next one. In this case, it is possible to assume that online casinos share information about unscrupulous players among themselves,


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Slow death on January 20, 2023, 10:36:49 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

this issue of limiting the account, from what I understand some casinos have done this when the user is under suspicion of having committed some infraction that is allowing him to win constantly, when the casino detects some kind of suspicious behavior such as a player who bets 100$ and in a game with odds of @3.40 and win, then bet 300$ again in a game with odds of @4.50 and win, then take the 400$ and bet on a game where the odds are also high, something like @3.50 and win 1200 $ in this case, the casino will start to suspect that the frequency of victories of that player is not normal, mainly because he is betting on games where the odds are very high

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

fact is one: all casinos will eventually ask for KYC, so all people need to create accounts with true information, so that means that if you have 3 accounts in different casinos then in those casinos you have your real IP, your real name, your real location, if 1 of these casinos suspects that you have been cheating they send the game provider to investigate and the game provider is also the same provider of the 3 casinos, you can already imagine that it will not be difficult for the game provider to know a lot about you and the casino limits you


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: _act_ on January 20, 2023, 10:43:24 AM
I am not familiar with the fact that someone was blocked just because they had accounts in different casinos linked by one email, perhaps it meant that the player was already blocked in some of the online casinos before he was blocked in the next one. In this case, it is possible to assume that online casinos share information about unscrupulous players among themselves,
If you see a user that is blocked from a gambling site, gambling sites do have similar rules on their terms and conditions, the user will likely make the same mistakes he made in one gambling site on another gambling site and he will be blocked too, not because they link the accounts.

In this case, bookmakers that are limiting odds of some users do that because they have professionals that look into individual accounts and know what will not pay their gambling site and not offering some users that or limiting the amount of money that can be used for it.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Beparanf on January 20, 2023, 10:50:40 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

They are tracking using KYC, IP address, email address and other details, not just email since they can easily spot all the multiple accounts or arbitrage bets on the different casinos. I believe this is the reason too why the casino always asks KYC whenever the account encounters a problem to verify the red flag given by the bookmaker. There's no way to avoid it if you are an individual or group since they are tracing betting patterns aside from all the info I mention before to connect you with other accounts.

Bookmaker is always making sure that no one can get a consistent profit against them regardless if you are playing normally as long as you are winning too often.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: danherbias07 on January 20, 2023, 10:55:21 AM
It might work. Different mail, different bookies. It's your information that will be passed down and not the e-mail itself but I doubt they have connections yet. I am sure they won't make efforts to pass it along to other gambling sites.
Regarding IP address, there's always a way to work around it so that you can change your position. I have not experienced such a thing as being limited yet but if I do, there must be a way to fix it by contacting their customer support so you could stay in just one bookie.
Maybe, work your way to a higher VIP level so the limits will be erased or they could widen it so you won't have any problems on your next bets.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: madnessteat on January 20, 2023, 11:12:43 AM
~snip~

Personally, I think the casino security system is much more complicated. Users are constantly improving their privacy skills, which means casinos have to constantly improve their security systems. Checking registration by mail among other casinos is not any kind of protection. It seems to me that the security system can get not only your IP address but also information about the device you are logging in with and a browser's fingerprint. In that case even if you use different e-mails when registering and fake KYC documents you will be found out quickly.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: crwth on January 20, 2023, 11:17:20 AM
This doesn’t make sense to me because why would another company have a piece of information about a specific individual that is just plain normal or just your average player? Unless someone is blacklisted unless, it is blacklisted anywhere. Then possibly, they have a blocked list of users that probably automatically trigger, notify the company, and then start from there.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: livingfree on January 20, 2023, 11:48:52 AM
I don't think that they'll ever track you with that. Most casinos don't share their information from the other casinos because it's a rival thing that's rare and hard to see happen.

But if it's the same casino that you're thinking of doing that then I guess that's where the problem will appear. As for the situation you've said, you're going to do it with different casino, I see it no problem.

It's like you're registering for Facebook and next is Google and so on, so I don't see any reason why they'll have time to track you with such unless as they've said, you've been winning big against them.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Hypnosis00 on January 20, 2023, 12:41:55 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

That's not a good idea as your IP might still be traced, which will result in you making a violation gambling with different accounts in one platform. The best thing to do is just to gamble on different gambling sites, that way you'll be safe and you can sleep well at night.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Peanutswar on January 20, 2023, 12:47:52 PM
They can tracked those created accounts with the use of the IP address and the Device IP address so its easily to them to know if there's someone might abuse the current system of the gambling casino that's why they asking for the KYC for preventing this kind of abuse of the current events, promos and etc. You don't need to worry if in your IP address has a different account with different users but for sure some of you don't want to make a KYC to prevent leaking of information still it depends on the situation if the casino allowing the use of multiple accounts.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: doomloop on January 21, 2023, 05:38:55 PM
it's definitely possible to circumvent account limitations by using different emails on different casinos, but it's not a foolproof solution. Some online casinos might also track users by IP address or other identifying information, so it's not a guarantee that you'll be able to continue gambling without any restrictions. Try to find and use other casinos.

Faking IP or using Tor can be a good alternative way but it can limit the speed and the experience while playing the casinos. VPN was my choice when my country prohibit many gambling websites but the connection speed was totally terrible. I guess it might be because I use free VPN services so that the server was always overload

That's why we should choose on-KYC or blockchain casinos because they offer full anonymity and allow us to fully enjoy the experience without any limitations. In the next few years we will see more and more blockchain-based casinos where people can join or leave without providing any additional information
Online platform operators knows that email address can be replaced easily and there are tons of disposable email service that we can use without creating Gmail and Yahoo mails. Even if we use them our success rate of playing on the same betting site can be slim if it was against their rules. Like you said, they still can see our IP address.

We can use a VPN to change our IP address but then they have other indicators to know if the user has already signed up before on their platform. To avoid problems or bad karma, it would be better if we can just play fairly. if we are restricted on one betting site then why not find another? There are plenty of fishes in the sea.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: South Park on January 21, 2023, 06:38:40 PM
~snip~

Personally, I think the casino security system is much more complicated. Users are constantly improving their privacy skills, which means casinos have to constantly improve their security systems. Checking registration by mail among other casinos is not any kind of protection. It seems to me that the security system can get not only your IP address but also information about the device you are logging in with and a browser's fingerprint. In that case even if you use different e-mails when registering and fake KYC documents you will be found out quickly.
This is my belief as well, identifying someone with their email can be effective but it is such a simple thing to do for anyone to change their email that it is nowhere near as effective as it may have been many years ago, it seems to me that websites can identify you by how personalized your internet browser is, then if you are using five different addons I would say is unlikely many gamblers are using those same addons and you can be identified this way.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: alegotardo on January 21, 2023, 06:56:35 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

They can use a different email and KYC so there's no point in tracking this way usually the provider can identify them by checking the gambling activity
I mean they will play using the same pattern so that the security team can catch them, have you ever heard of their accounts being frozen and being investigated? well that's when the security team checked it and decide whether they play fair or not.

I also doubt that they will be able to track the person by the game pattern, as I believe that this would bring several false-positive results that would end up making the process very slow and unduly affect the experience of several users who have nothing to do with the problem, resulting in a bad reputation for the systems and consequently a decrease in their popularity.
I believe that an email standard can be used, but in fact this is an obstacle that can be easily circumvented.
The only solution would be KYC verification itself, where only identity theft could circumvent such a restriction.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: South Park on February 01, 2023, 07:44:33 PM
I also doubt that they will be able to track the person by the game pattern, as I believe that this would bring several false-positive results that would end up making the process very slow and unduly affect the experience of several users who have nothing to do with the problem, resulting in a bad reputation for the systems and consequently a decrease in their popularity.
I believe that an email standard can be used, but in fact this is an obstacle that can be easily circumvented.
The only solution would be KYC verification itself, where only identity theft could circumvent such a restriction.
It is possible but the gambler will need to have a very specific pattern like going only after a particular kind of bet and doing so in markets which are not very popular, and while it may not seem as if a lot of profitable sport bettors will fall into this, this is in fact very common, as profitable sport traders try to find the best possible odds they can find and in many cases due to the low interest they generate the best opportunities occur on the sports and leagues which are not that popular.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Fortify on February 01, 2023, 10:03:36 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

What you've probably also seen or should have, is how often this type of abuse gets caught. Why should anyone here encourage you to commit fraud against these casinos? If you have to ask this sort of question then I can guarantee that your accounts are going to get frozen and you will lose any deposited funds, then undoubtedly come here to complain when they catch you breaking the terms of service. If you don't agree with the terms of service of a site, then don't use it - simple. They use many more methods than just an email address to determine if you are trying to cheat them and that's all you are - a form of cheater which is never a good thing. Learn to play fair or you will waste your time in the long run.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: ralle14 on February 04, 2023, 02:01:25 AM
Learn to play fair or you will waste your time in the long run.
Or switch to betting exchanges, since they're the only place that doesn't limit winning players.

We can use a VPN to change our IP address but then they have other indicators to know if the user has already signed up before on their platform. To avoid problems or bad karma, it would be better if we can just play fairly. if we are restricted on one betting site then why not find another? There are plenty of fishes in the sea.
I agree, it's fine to use VPN on certain casinos but making another account on the same site would only put your first account at risk. If limits become an issue for the sports bettor then the best solution is to have one account on several sportsbooks and betting exchanges.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Accardo on February 04, 2023, 05:58:40 AM
The best way is to monitor gaming providers, because they're a different section but exist in all casinos, and that makes it look like all Casinos communicate with each other to detect players. I think if a gaming provider flags a player for being underage or fraudulent disputes they can easily track that person on other casinos using their detective systems. And this time the player may be unlucky and the account will get restricted after they've won some money. They could be a way other than changing IP, proxies, or even Kyc how these people determine a suspicious player. So, the way out is to change games and try focusing on games that has different providers. That way the user can be difficult to trace.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: lionheart78 on February 04, 2023, 07:26:55 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

It is very possible unless casino shares their data with one another.  Actually, if you think that they track user's via email across multiple casino platforms, I do not think that it is the only means, they can also track your:

1. IP address (this can be prevented by using VPN)
2. Mac address (which can be prevented by using spoofing software)

So no matter how you change different emails with different casinos if the bookmakers have the above list to track every account that bet on their platform then they can definitely trace you unless you do some extra precautions.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: swogerino on February 04, 2023, 08:24:43 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

It is very possible unless casino shares their data with one another.  Actually, if you think that they track user's via email across multiple casino platforms, I do not think that it is the only means, they can also track your:

1. IP address (this can be prevented by using VPN)
2. Mac address (which can be prevented by using spoofing software)

So no matter how you change different emails with different casinos if the bookmakers have the above list to track every account that bet on their platform then they can definitely trace you unless you do some extra precautions.


Those are good hiding techniques but that come with a high risk of getting your account locked for a certain time until you verify yourself or even banning completely your account as the use of VPN-s is strongly discouraged in many casinos and some of them made it clear in their terms of service that when they see such activity they have the right to lock your account and even freeze it completely no matter you having funds there.

Having said that I think the only tracking they do is through gambling activity and if they see that you are a winner,I mean in FIAT casinos as I have not seen this yet in crypto ones,they limit your account or the odds,or the maximum bet you can make.In crypto as I said this has been not happening to me even when I have won a lot of bets consecutively something that when I did in bet365 I immediately got some kind of limitations.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Sanitough on February 04, 2023, 08:28:27 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.
Casinos are limiting users if you are consistently winning because they love losers and hate winners, that's the saying which seem to be true.
Well, about your presumption that they are tracking our accounts across multiple casinos, I don't think they can do that, unless that casino are their affiliate or their sister company, which I doubt they'll even put an effort in doing that.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Of course since it's not prohibited to make plenty of emails for whatever purpose it will serve.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: lionheart78 on February 04, 2023, 08:48:16 AM
Those are good hiding techniques but that come with a high risk of getting your account locked for a certain time until you verify yourself or even banning completely your account as the use of VPN-s is strongly discouraged in many casinos and some of them made it clear in their terms of service that when they see such activity they have the right to lock your account and even freeze it completely no matter you having funds there.

We definitely, have to check the terms and conditions of the casino but not all casino ban or are hostile to VPN usage, so better find casinos that are VPN friendly as long as we are not circumventing regional bans or prohibitions.

Having said that I think the only tracking they do is through gambling activity and if they see that you are a winner,I mean in FIAT casinos as I have not seen this yet in crypto ones,they limit your account or the odds,or the maximum bet you can make.In crypto as I said this has been not happening to me even when I have won a lot of bets consecutively something that when I did in bet365 I immediately got some kind of limitations.

I think so too, providers always check the activity of the player or bettor, they often check for players that are well-versed on the game betting and often limit them to reduce damaged done by the player.  That may be unfair but well, but bookmakers need to protect their business.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: maydna on February 04, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
I don't know if casinos track user accounts at some casinos but what for? Casinos don't need to bother doing that because they have rules, so they can apply them to members who try to break the rules. They can also ask users to do KYC later if they think it is necessary to do it for some or even all of their members.

Besides that, if any user wants to try to get something from more than one or several casinos and it violates the rules of each casino, he may get an immediate ban on his account.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: rhomelmabini on February 04, 2023, 09:31:14 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Well, odd providers are on different casinos too and maybe they got the tools to identify fraud between accounts but we never know. The only thing is likely possible they came up with this maybe by IPand gambling patterns. I think gambling fraudster would try to hide as much as possible and having lot of email addresses isn't that hard these days if they really want to avoid being caught.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: jrrsparkles on February 04, 2023, 09:55:22 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Honestly I don't know how they do it but I read they are doing with the help of multiple bookmakers and analyzing the betting pattern but via online its close to impossible to identify whether the same person is betting on multiple site for the same game. Recently someone also accused by a casinos for doing such activity so the funds were help and nothing rewarded but they won't disclose it to public how they do it.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Betwrong on February 04, 2023, 09:56:25 AM
The best way is to monitor gaming providers, because they're a different section but exist in all casinos, and that makes it look like all Casinos communicate with each other to detect players. I think if a gaming provider flags a player for being underage or fraudulent disputes they can easily track that person on other casinos using their detective systems. And this time the player may be unlucky and the account will get restricted after they've won some money. They could be a way other than changing IP, proxies, or even Kyc how these people determine a suspicious player. So, the way out is to change games and try focusing on games that has different providers. That way the user can be difficult to trace.

Keep in mind that there's another reason for someone being limited, and it's his/her gambling addiction. In some jurisdictions gambling providers are obliged to limit someone's stakes just because they are too big, or there are too many of them to consider them affordable for the gambler. So, providers put a limit on the stakes of such person, and then this person goes around forums saying he was limited because he was so good at betting and that casinos fear him.

I personally think that this is the main reason why someone is limited, but I have no proof of that, so, let's just keep in mind that there are such cases.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: nimogsm on February 04, 2023, 10:13:35 AM
The best way is to monitor gaming providers, because they're a different section but exist in all casinos, and that makes it look like all Casinos communicate with each other to detect players. I think if a gaming provider flags a player for being underage or fraudulent disputes they can easily track that person on other casinos using their detective systems. And this time the player may be unlucky and the account will get restricted after they've won some money. They could be a way other than changing IP, proxies, or even Kyc how these people determine a suspicious player. So, the way out is to change games and try focusing on games that has different providers. That way the user can be difficult to trace.
I think there is one common user base that is shared among themselves to identify suspicious players.I have a friend who works in this direction and he says that all the data for each player is fixed, mail / IP / password change and addresses where money is withdrawn.All this works in semi-automatic mode and suspicious accounts are checked manually several times a month.Most often, suspicious accounts are simply blocked during the election.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: piebeyb on February 04, 2023, 11:55:23 AM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
I think of course it will not be possible for other casinos to know email and other information from users, moreover every casino is certainly competing and it is also impossible for them to share their user data, especially when it comes to user information data, I prefer to use the same email to play


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: molsewid on February 04, 2023, 01:37:13 PM
I doubt bookmakers do it this way, because bookies would not easily or even be able to disclose their user data to their business rivals unless they are sister sites.
The way gambling sites work to be able to catch a suspicious account is more complicated than we think, only by using a different email the gambling site can find other oddities because surely they have many benchmarks before concluding that the user will be hit by a limit.
That's right, I think using an email is not a good thing to do because as much as many email addresses he will create still if he is living in a same roof with same internet connection his IP will be the same. Online casino can banned someone from accessing their website using their IP, but based on cyber crime law they should not disclose any info or data of a certain person. But who knows maybe somehow these casinos can tip each and everyone that a certain player is cheating or abusing some bugs of their website.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Botnake on February 04, 2023, 01:41:22 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
I think of course it will not be possible for other casinos to know email and other information from users, moreover every casino is certainly competing and it is also impossible for them to share their user data, especially when it comes to user information data, I prefer to use the same email to play
That's also against the law when a casino is sharing the client's information. The fact that we are required to comply with the KYC requirement means that the casinos have a responsibility to take care of our personal information, it should be confidential, which means it's illegal to share it or leak it. So with OP's concern, I'm pretty sure that one casino does not limit certain gamblers because they got information from other casinos.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: decodx on February 04, 2023, 01:58:21 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Ha! The gambling providers are always looking for ways to keep their advantage, and limiting player accounts is just one of their tactics. But, can you beat the system by using different emails at different casinos? Well, it might be worth a shot, but don't be surprised if they eventually catch up to you. These guys have some pretty sophisticated tracking methods, so you may want to think twice before trying to outsmart them. Surely you have already heard about browser fingerprinting? At the end of the day, it's best to just accept the odds as they are and have fun with the game, not try to cheat the system.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Peanutswar on February 04, 2023, 02:00:22 PM
Some of the casinos do not allow you to create an account or play on their platform if you didn't accept their terms and conditions that's why better to read first before playing so you can prevent having an issue with your data privacy if you are conscious with this its better to seek a casino which is not requiring as mandatory, Users has a right to check the accessibility of the casino and includes into their website so you can file a case if unexpected things happen. If you are seeing gambling to your Facebook and google for sure the web browser you are using use the data from your search and prompted those into your advertisements.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: 348Judah on February 04, 2023, 02:09:44 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

You may not be actually free totally from being caught by them aince you're still going to go beyond the limit to what has been put in place, the have a system that helps track and cobtrol odd limits and in this regards, if i were you, i will split the games into two and use the different casino in placing the bet and of course it has to be with an entire different email and registration details, then try make use of the casino that does not require KYC to remain more safer.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: klidex on February 04, 2023, 02:18:12 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
I think of course it will not be possible for other casinos to know email and other information from users, moreover every casino is certainly competing and it is also impossible for them to share their user data, especially when it comes to user information data, I prefer to use the same email to play
Yes, because finding out and tracking email or personal information of other casino users will only be a waste of time and of no benefit.
If we pay close attention and think carefully about what the casino is doing this for, the casino team also has a more important job, which is to develop and create new innovations so that they can compete with other casinos to find new customers to really get loyal customers.
So we don't need to worry that our email or data can be known or tracked by other casinos that we don't use.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: jostorres on February 04, 2023, 08:26:21 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
I think of course it will not be possible for other casinos to know email and other information from users, moreover every casino is certainly competing and it is also impossible for them to share their user data, especially when it comes to user information data, I prefer to use the same email to play
That's also against the law when a casino is sharing the client's information. The fact that we are required to comply with the KYC requirement means that the casinos have a responsibility to take care of our personal information, it should be confidential, which means it's illegal to share it or leak it. So with OP's concern, I'm pretty sure that one casino does not limit certain gamblers because they got information from other casinos.
Why will they share it for free when they can also sell it for cash? I agree on piebeyb that each gambling sites are competing with each other. They are not friends except only if some of them personally know the founders of the other gambling sites but again as you said we have a law about it. It was still illegal to share the users information.

Those odd providers can limit our accounts or do other restrictions because they beg other gambling sites for data's but we also have the rights to report them for doing this. The only thing that a gambling site won't be guilty is if the data's were leaked without them knowing it or if there have been a hack that took place.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: dothebeats on February 04, 2023, 09:38:40 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

You may not be actually free totally from being caught by them aince you're still going to go beyond the limit to what has been put in place, the have a system that helps track and cobtrol odd limits and in this regards, if i were you, i will split the games into two and use the different casino in placing the bet and of course it has to be with an entire different email and registration details, then try make use of the casino that does not require KYC to remain more safer.

That works on the first few bets, but after some time they will notice the betting patterns and the history, and they might connect the dots later on. Regardless, KYC will still be triggered albeit at a very later date compared to when you just use a single email across different casinos. You'll still encounter the same roadblock over and over again if you don't put any variations in your bets. At least if you want to cheat the system, do something fancy that they don't get you that easily :D


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: seoincorporation on February 04, 2023, 10:28:33 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Ha! The gambling providers are always looking for ways to keep their advantage, and limiting player accounts is just one of their tactics. But, can you beat the system by using different emails at different casinos? Well, it might be worth a shot, but don't be surprised if they eventually catch up to you.

I think using a new mail will not be enough... I mean, for sure they record information like the IP, Operative System, device, and other information that could let them track users.

Using a new mail will only tag us on their system as a multi-accounts abuser, and that would end in a ban or a KYC request from their side, so, I don't think that's a good idea.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Accardo on February 05, 2023, 10:01:47 AM
The best way is to monitor gaming providers, because they're a different section but exist in all casinos, and that makes it look like all Casinos communicate with each other to detect players. I think if a gaming provider flags a player for being underage or fraudulent disputes they can easily track that person on other casinos using their detective systems. And this time the player may be unlucky and the account will get restricted after they've won some money. They could be a way other than changing IP, proxies, or even Kyc how these people determine a suspicious player. So, the way out is to change games and try focusing on games that has different providers. That way the user can be difficult to trace.

Keep in mind that there's another reason for someone being limited, and it's his/her gambling addiction. In some jurisdictions gambling providers are obliged to limit someone's stakes just because they are too big, or there are too many of them to consider them affordable for the gambler. So, providers put a limit on the stakes of such person, and then this person goes around forums saying he was limited because he was so good at betting and that casinos fear him.

I personally think that this is the main reason why someone is limited, but I have no proof of that, so, let's just keep in mind that there are such cases.

Indeed it's among the right reasons why a person can be traced till forever never to gamble anywhere again, gambling addiction, if a person is restricted for such reasons they may not be enabled to play anywhere, but how exactly it's been achieved is like gambling we can't be sure of it, there are more than enough cases why a person gets limited, yet the game providers play an effective role in tackling these limitation disputes.


I think there is one common user base that is shared among themselves to identify suspicious players.I have a friend who works in this direction and he says that all the data for each player is fixed, mail / IP / password change and addresses where money is withdrawn.All this works in semi-automatic mode and suspicious accounts are checked manually several times a month.Most often, suspicious accounts are simply blocked during the election.

You are lucky to have a friend that knows the board rules of game providers. I think the withdrawal account is very sensitive when tracing suspicious accounts. Because, they ask of bank documents before the money is forwarded to the bank. And such details may not get fabricated easily. As for IP and other gadget related criterion, they can get bypassd easily. The receiving account seems like it is a strong evidence.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: QueenVera on February 05, 2023, 11:02:46 AM
The truth is I personally use several and different emails for every casino that I visit except I just want to check the site out.
But I really don't think casinos actually limit the odd of players because the email is linked with several casinos, I really don't think so as it doesn't seem so.
Just as other users have said, there are several reasons why someone might get restricted outside just winnings and such might include addiction or underage and if you can agree with me that these reasons are the major reasons while a casino or a game provider might restrict a player rather than over odds or winning.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 05, 2023, 01:00:17 PM
I think there is one common user base that is shared among themselves to identify suspicious players.I have a friend who works in this direction and he says that all the data for each player is fixed, mail / IP / password change and addresses where money is withdrawn.All this works in semi-automatic mode and suspicious accounts are checked manually several times a month.Most often, suspicious accounts are simply blocked during the election.
You are lucky to have a friend that knows the board rules of game providers. I think the withdrawal account is very sensitive when tracing suspicious accounts. Because, they ask of bank documents before the money is forwarded to the bank. And such details may not get fabricated easily. As for IP and other gadget related criterion, they can get bypassd easily. The receiving account seems like it is a strong evidence.
We can find out how casinos determine whether a player's account is honest or suspicious and casinos can do something if they find the account suspicious, such as blocking the account. For an honest account, they will do nothing and still allow players to gamble again. And the casinos have many other ways that they won't explain to us because that's their secret for finding players trying to cheat. So we don't have to try to cheat and just play fair. After all, it will keep our account safe from blocking.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Fara Chan on February 05, 2023, 01:16:30 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Actually you can, but this is not fully applicable, maybe you can use some method to access it, and in theory you can do it, but I don't think this lasts long, looking at developments and maybe they can still track it even though in an indirect way ( you using different e-mails, this is not too difficult for them to detect) they can see it from the IP address of course, developments now they also have several methods for detecting account users, besides we see that the management of the casino site also has a very shrewd crew.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: BitcoinPanther on February 05, 2023, 11:10:28 PM
The truth is I personally use several and different emails for every casino that I visit except I just want to check the site out.
But I really don't think casinos actually limit the odd of players because the email is linked with several casinos, I really don't think so as it doesn't seem so.
Just as other users have said, there are several reasons why someone might get restricted outside just winnings and such might include addiction or underage and if you can agree with me that these reasons are the major reasons while a casino or a game provider might restrict a player rather than over odds or winning.

Bookmakers limit the bet size of a gambler who wins regularly.  If the bookmakers let this bettor to bet according to his will then bookamakers may possibly closed since the provider financila flow is in an outflow.  So to avoid bankruptcy or possible bankroll depletion, they implement  limiting players bet.

And if you are talking about casino limiting a player, it is possible to prevent players from exploiting bonuses and at the same time not banning them for some reasons.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: alegotardo on February 05, 2023, 11:22:04 PM
Bookmakers limit the bet size of a gambler who wins regularly.  If the bookmakers let this bettor to bet according to his will then bookamakers may possibly closed since the provider financila flow is in an outflow.  So to avoid bankruptcy or possible bankroll depletion, they implement  limiting players bet.

And if you are talking about casino limiting a player, it is possible to prevent players from exploiting bonuses and at the same time not banning them for some reasons.

Honestly, I think this is a big injustice, as bookmakers are supposed to be impartial.
As long as players play within the rules, there shouldn't be any kind of enforcement to block their bets.
If a bookmaker blocks players who win a lot, then they should also block when that player is losing a lot of money, why doesn't this happen? Obviously I already know the answer, I'm just raising this point for you to reflect on.

In any case, we are still facing a relationship between company/consumer, and no one is obliged to provide their services to anyone, which is why this is not an illegal practice, but it is immoral nonetheless.

Also in physical casinos, it is "normal" for them to withdraw bettors who win several times in a row, even if he is not cheating.

Casinos never lose money, either by imposing odds or forcing players to leave and in fact, this should never be the goal of gamblers, because casinos are a means of entertainment, where you win eventually.

In the end, we all love casinos and gambling, we can't live without them :D


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Betwrong on February 07, 2023, 01:35:13 PM
The best way is to monitor gaming providers, because they're a different section but exist in all casinos, and that makes it look like all Casinos communicate with each other to detect players. I think if a gaming provider flags a player for being underage or fraudulent disputes they can easily track that person on other casinos using their detective systems. And this time the player may be unlucky and the account will get restricted after they've won some money. They could be a way other than changing IP, proxies, or even Kyc how these people determine a suspicious player. So, the way out is to change games and try focusing on games that has different providers. That way the user can be difficult to trace.

Keep in mind that there's another reason for someone being limited, and it's his/her gambling addiction. In some jurisdictions gambling providers are obliged to limit someone's stakes just because they are too big, or there are too many of them to consider them affordable for the gambler. So, providers put a limit on the stakes of such person, and then this person goes around forums saying he was limited because he was so good at betting and that casinos fear him.

I personally think that this is the main reason why someone is limited, but I have no proof of that, so, let's just keep in mind that there are such cases.

Indeed it's among the right reasons why a person can be traced till forever never to gamble anywhere again, gambling addiction, if a person is restricted for such reasons they may not be enabled to play anywhere, but how exactly it's been achieved is like gambling we can't be sure of it, there are more than enough cases why a person gets limited, yet the game providers play an effective role in tackling these limitation disputes.

We can't be sure of it. Absolutely. Besides, gamblers always can find ways to circumvent  these restrictions, but the harder to do it, the better for them gambling addicts. If they are restricted on the most reliable gambling platforms, they can go to less reliable ones, but they know the risks, so, some of them stop gambling for that reason.

Overall, it's a good thing that providers required to limit people who are sick and need professional help. It saves many lives, I'm sure.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Cling18 on February 07, 2023, 04:05:05 PM
The best way is to monitor gaming providers, because they're a different section but exist in all casinos, and that makes it look like all Casinos communicate with each other to detect players. I think if a gaming provider flags a player for being underage or fraudulent disputes they can easily track that person on other casinos using their detective systems. And this time the player may be unlucky and the account will get restricted after they've won some money. They could be a way other than changing IP, proxies, or even Kyc how these people determine a suspicious player. So, the way out is to change games and try focusing on games that has different providers. That way the user can be difficult to trace.

Keep in mind that there's another reason for someone being limited, and it's his/her gambling addiction. In some jurisdictions gambling providers are obliged to limit someone's stakes just because they are too big, or there are too many of them to consider them affordable for the gambler. So, providers put a limit on the stakes of such person, and then this person goes around forums saying he was limited because he was so good at betting and that casinos fear him.

I personally think that this is the main reason why someone is limited, but I have no proof of that, so, let's just keep in mind that there are such cases.

Indeed it's among the right reasons why a person can be traced till forever never to gamble anywhere again, gambling addiction, if a person is restricted for such reasons they may not be enabled to play anywhere, but how exactly it's been achieved is like gambling we can't be sure of it, there are more than enough cases why a person gets limited, yet the game providers play an effective role in tackling these limitation disputes.

We can't be sure of it. Absolutely. Besides, gamblers always can find ways to circumvent  these restrictions, but the harder to do it, the better for them gambling addicts. If they are restricted to the most reliable gambling platforms, they can go to less reliable ones, but they know the risks, so, some of them stop gambling for that reason.

Overall, it's a good thing that providers are required to limit people who are sick and need professional help. It saves many lives, I'm sure.

If they would limit them, they should also let them know the reason why the are being restricted. The providers must provide an acceptable reason so gamblers would know their mistakes. I agree that gambling addicts will always find ways to gamble. If they are being traced and restricted, they will try even the riskiest casinos to fulfill their urge to gamble. However, it will still be a big help for them to be restricted so they will be aware and would have enough time to realize that they need to seek professional help already.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: 348Judah on February 07, 2023, 04:13:29 PM
Some of the casinos do not allow you to create an account or play on their platform if you didn't accept their terms and conditions that's why better to read first before playing so you can prevent having an issue with your data privacy if you are conscious with this its better to seek a casino which is not requiring as mandatory, Users has a right to check the accessibility of the casino and includes into their website so you can file a case if unexpected things happen. If you are seeing gambling to your Facebook and google for sure the web browser you are using use the data from your search and prompted those into your advertisements.

The problem we do have with some gamblers is that they already lost their right from the beginning by refusing to read and understand every requirements of a casino before accepting their terms and signing up for them, when they later encounter a bridge in services and functionalities from the casino restricting them on certain rights, now they think they have been deprived not knowing is what they have initially neglected and denied paying attention to before registration, if you don't byepass some functions, you may not have issues related with them later.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: South Park on February 07, 2023, 05:41:44 PM
Some of the casinos do not allow you to create an account or play on their platform if you didn't accept their terms and conditions that's why better to read first before playing so you can prevent having an issue with your data privacy if you are conscious with this its better to seek a casino which is not requiring as mandatory, Users has a right to check the accessibility of the casino and includes into their website so you can file a case if unexpected things happen. If you are seeing gambling to your Facebook and google for sure the web browser you are using use the data from your search and prompted those into your advertisements.

The problem we do have with some gamblers is that they already lost their right from the beginning by refusing to read and understand every requirements of a casino before accepting their terms and signing up for them, when they later encounter a bridge in services and functionalities from the casino restricting them on certain rights, now they think they have been deprived not knowing is what they have initially neglected and denied paying attention to before registration, if you don't byepass some functions, you may not have issues related with them later.
If we are honest about it there are very few gamblers out there which actually read the terms of service of any website we may use, and even if it is a pain to read those terms it must be done at least with the services we use the most or where some money or personal information could be lost if we are not careful, but on our rush to gamble and try a casino as fast as we can we simply neglect to do this and then we find ourselves limited somehow and complain about it, even if the casino make their posture clear from the beginning.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Fortify on February 07, 2023, 07:51:36 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

If the KYC is active for any casino then they might definitely target winners, as perhaps they are the most likely to withdraw funds. Any reasonable casino or sportbook should be quite open and upfront about the requirements, but they often walk a fine line - in order to get customers spending they try to reduce barriers as much as possible. If a customer deposits a small amount, loses it and never returns it might be onerous to require such information. However if you are a regular visitor then you should be asked for it and if you want someone to blame, it's the financial regulators of your country that are trying to stop criminal money entering or getting "washed" in these high risk companies.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: darkangel11 on February 07, 2023, 08:22:10 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Ha! The gambling providers are always looking for ways to keep their advantage, and limiting player accounts is just one of their tactics. But, can you beat the system by using different emails at different casinos? Well, it might be worth a shot, but don't be surprised if they eventually catch up to you. These guys have some pretty sophisticated tracking methods, so you may want to think twice before trying to outsmart them. Surely you have already heard about browser fingerprinting? At the end of the day, it's best to just accept the odds as they are and have fun with the game, not try to cheat the system.

Since they have ways to know that you're using a VPN probably by listing all the IPs used by different users and knowing that VPN users will always end up sharing locations, an email will only slow things down for them, but they'll catch on after a while, unless you're able to use another legit IP from a different source, like you have 1 at your own house and one at parent's house and gamble from both on the same platform. As for authentication methods, sites are slow at implementing them and when one provider requests a new method you can stop gambling with them and go somewhere where that method is not used.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Johnyz on February 07, 2023, 09:15:02 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
How they can track it? Not unless the casinos are sharing their data of the gamblers which I think is not possible. But if you think you are being tracked, the you can always use a different emails for different gambling sites, just make sure you have the records. Some site limits the gamblers because of unusual activities and will ask for a KYC, but if you can prove that you’re innocent and just doing your gambling activities fine, they will back your account to normal and remove the red flag.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: goaldigger on February 07, 2023, 09:59:15 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
How they can track it? Not unless the casinos are sharing their data of the gamblers which I think is not possible. But if you think you are being tracked, the you can always use a different emails for different gambling sites, just make sure you have the records. Some site limits the gamblers because of unusual activities and will ask for a KYC, but if you can prove that you’re innocent and just doing your gambling activities fine, they will back your account to normal and remove the red flag.
There’s no shared data because they are competitors which I think will compromise their platform if they gave out information of their players. If you get limited by the platform, ask the support for a reason and for a possible way to reverse the limit back to normal, there must be a reason and a gambler you should aware of that so you wont do the same mistake again. Using VPN might also the problem here, try to read their terms and conditions if its ok or not.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: dunfida on February 07, 2023, 09:59:38 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
How they can track it? Not unless the casinos are sharing their data of the gamblers which I think is not possible. But if you think you are being tracked, the you can always use a different emails for different gambling sites, just make sure you have the records. Some site limits the gamblers because of unusual activities and will ask for a KYC, but if you can prove that you’re innocent and just doing your gambling activities fine, they will back your account to normal and remove the red flag.
Wont really be that surprising that they are really that too paranoid when it comes to someone that do make out some winning or having a good chance of hitting which they would really be having those kind of suspicions which arent even true if ever you are really just playing fair and square.They cant really just accept that there are gamblers who are extremely lucky.
Im aint sure about being tracked and making out some limit or something like that and its true that it is unlikely that they could share up information precisely on a short duration or
i could say that it would be that complex and a hassle thing.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Darker45 on February 08, 2023, 12:16:40 AM
What do you mean limiting user accounts? Limiting their bets? I mean, maximum bets? I have read of a similar complaint or two but it is usually triggered by the user making a big win, probably one after another. Worse, the prize would not even be released because the bets made were already beyond the maximum. However, it's shady since the bet was allowed in the first place.

I doubt the tracking done by casinos would involve tracking their email address across multiple casinos. And I think it could indeed be circumvented by using a throw-away email. The problem is when they're also tracking IP information and share this with other casinos.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Pierre 2 on February 08, 2023, 04:36:21 AM
Its hard for us, regular users to assess what exactly casinos do to limit people's accounts. There are various ways considering we are living in technology of 2023. KYC is not hand of midas that turns everything into gold. Some users try to exploit advantageous odds given, or just bonuses given. I would say so, yeah you may try your best to avoid many imposed rules to you. But its most likely better to compromise. Eventually they will find a way to block it.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Lida93 on February 08, 2023, 05:14:40 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
In such a competitive business environment like gambling it's difficult to believe that gambling sites would wanna give a disclosure of information of their customer's to rival competitors in same business except for mutual interest benefits that arises between them in a situation where the user's account is under suspicion of an act that's perceived as a threat to their policy or an unfair play is sets in in same pattern over time amongst such user's account which might probably necessitate such limitations as way of checkmating.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 08, 2023, 08:52:31 AM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
How they can track it? Not unless the casinos are sharing their data of the gamblers which I think is not possible. But if you think you are being tracked, the you can always use a different emails for different gambling sites, just make sure you have the records. Some site limits the gamblers because of unusual activities and will ask for a KYC, but if you can prove that you’re innocent and just doing your gambling activities fine, they will back your account to normal and remove the red flag.
Most gamblers asked to do KYC by the casino complain and reason that they haven't made a single mistake that could get them in trouble. But in reality, this is not the case because the casino must have evidence that makes the casino suspect they are cheating when playing gambling.

And the casino doesn't need to trace to other casinos to find out the habits of the cheaters because the cheaters will surely do the same in other casinos and the casino itself. The pattern of the cheaters will always be the same so experienced casinos can recognize them well and immediately block their accounts.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on February 08, 2023, 09:21:49 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Yes, because I think the use of a new Gmail address, is a sign of a totally different identity, of which I don't think it will be possible to know which accounts belong to a particular individual, even thou he/she uses the same gambling pattern, as there is always a possibility of someone out there doing the same. And secondly, I doubt if there is any avenue whereby casino "A" could have access to the gambler's details on casino "B", that's only if those casinos aren't cross-related or owned by the same individual/company. So in summary, I will like to say you can circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos on a new device "i.e I.P address"


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: AicecreaME on February 08, 2023, 10:19:53 AM
It's hard to say because I think regardless of having accounts between different casinos you can still get limited by the odds providers if you're a winning player since that's one of the main reasons why they limit users.

It's only a matter of time before the user would get caught again though since I remember reading an old post where gambling sites would sometimes help each other and provide information to stop abusers.

I find it hard to believe that the gambling sites will just easily give information to other websites most especially it those sites are their rival to begin with. It is perhaps possible if the gambling website is sister casino of another website. However, if they told their users that the data will solely for the casino themself, then they shouldn't try to breach it unless they want to be filed by a case for selling data information to third party applications or websites.

I guess casinos are monitoring using the email address yes, so you might want to change that if you want to join and make various casino accounts in different sites, the IP address as well which they can check to pinpoint who's who, and unfortunately you can hardly do anything about this without the usage of vpn, which is not allowed in most gambling websites.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Betwrong on February 13, 2023, 07:02:21 AM
We can't be sure of it. Absolutely. Besides, gamblers always can find ways to circumvent  these restrictions, but the harder to do it, the better for them gambling addicts. If they are restricted to the most reliable gambling platforms, they can go to less reliable ones, but they know the risks, so, some of them stop gambling for that reason.

Overall, it's a good thing that providers are required to limit people who are sick and need professional help. It saves many lives, I'm sure.

If they would limit them, they should also let them know the reason why the are being restricted. The providers must provide an acceptable reason so gamblers would know their mistakes. I agree that gambling addicts will always find ways to gamble. If they are being traced and restricted, they will try even the riskiest casinos to fulfill their urge to gamble. However, it will still be a big help for them to be restricted so they will be aware and would have enough time to realize that they need to seek professional help already.

But, as I said, they know the risks. Contrary to popular belief, gambling addicts are not stupid, nor all of them are uneducated. Some of them can be mathematicians even. I personally knew a guy who was teaching probabilities, and was addicted to PvP poker at the same time. And although he was addicted to the game, he would never go to a shady casino to fulfill his urge, because he wanted to play poker, not to just throw his money away.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Viscore on February 13, 2023, 05:59:26 PM
I doubt bookmakers do it this way, because bookies would not easily or even be able to disclose their user data to their business rivals unless they are sister sites.
The way gambling sites work to be able to catch a suspicious account is more complicated than we think, only by using a different email the gambling site can find other oddities because surely they have many benchmarks before concluding that the user will be hit by a limit.
That's right, I think using an email is not a good thing to do because as much as many email addresses he will create still if he is living in a same roof with same internet connection his IP will be the same. Online casino can banned someone from accessing their website using their IP, but based on cyber crime law they should not disclose any info or data of a certain person. But who knows maybe somehow these casinos can tip each and everyone that a certain player is cheating or abusing some bugs of their website.
It’s possible that casinos have also their way of connection since they are in the same line of business, so if you are blacklisted in the other casino due to your unethical behavior, then it may be possible that you will be investigated too in the new casino you are going to register. Most especially if these casinos are affiliated with each other, then the more that you will be caught personally. However, in case if you provide different KYC details to different casinos, but you are using the same IP address, then you will still be question for that. Also, seeing you play with the same patterns, then you will be subject for investigation for sure.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: BenCodie on February 13, 2023, 06:38:24 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I would assume that triggers span a lot further than just email address. IP address would definitely be a factor too. Possibly even browser and device information. If you want to avoid tracking you will need a lot more than a unique email address (that is a start though). One relatively easy method I would recommend would be using a VPS instance/RDP per account. There are ways you can also do it without a VPS, this takes a lot more effort though and is probably less fool-proof than a rented remote desktop.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: serveria.com on February 13, 2023, 07:32:05 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Frankly, I wouldn't recommend you to mess with this. Casinos may use various methods to identify and track users, such as IP address, device ID, and payment information, in addition to email address. So, using different email addresses to register with multiple casinos can get you into trouble (account termination, loss of funds etc).


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: STT on February 14, 2023, 11:57:59 PM
I might get in trouble then because I always have some variance in the email I use depending on the device Im sat at and so on.   If I dont know the place I probably wont give a standard email, I'll give an email I dont read or need to read often because I dont want a regular account to be swamped.  I thought alot of people did this, if I use a site alot its very likely allocated towards my most common email address but only after I like it.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 15, 2023, 06:08:39 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Probably yes, but this can only work if casinos don't share user data between themselves, by user data, I mean like they trying to match IP addresses, except the gambler will resort to using VPN, which like I know, is highly frowned at by many reputable casinos.
And again, aside using a new email address every time we sign up on a new casino, I think it is also very important to use different usernames as well, many gamblers use the same usernames for every casinos they register on, and some also make the extreme mistake of using the same password as well, if we all are avoiding revealing our identities to casinos by not willing to submit our KYC documents, then we must learn to start minding this things as well.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: joeperry on February 15, 2023, 07:58:03 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
I don't think they can track or access data from other casino as that would violate the T&C of those casinos as they are not allowed to share data of their players to other people. Maybe they are keeping an eye to the account and limit the user if they saw it winning than usual, I think some of the casino do this if the player is too good and always winning some of them are really limiting the account in order to control the winning of the player. Regarding KYC, that might be different issue and they can implement it anytime as per their T&C.

I don't think changing email would be much of a help, if they can track you with email I think they might even track your IP so even if you change your email, you still have same IP.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Plaguedeath on February 15, 2023, 08:36:45 AM
Frankly, I wouldn't recommend you to mess with this. Casinos may use various methods to identify and track users, such as IP address, device ID, and payment information, in addition to email address. So, using different email addresses to register with multiple casinos can get you into trouble (account termination, loss of funds etc).
It would be trouble if the @OP is using different email addresses to register on the same casino because he broke the multiple accounts rule. A casino one to another may share an information about the gambler, but sometime they're not. As long as you're not using different email address in order to create fake personal information, it should be fine. You have no way to lie when they ask your KYC, because your funds will get confiscated if you use fake KYC.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Oasisman on February 15, 2023, 08:38:02 AM
What do you mean limiting user accounts? Limiting their bets? I mean, maximum bets? I have read of a similar complaint or two but it is usually triggered by the user making a big win, probably one after another. Worse, the prize would not even be released because the bets made were already beyond the maximum. However, it's shady since the bet was allowed in the first place.

I've got the same question, it was not specified in the OP. There are a lot of types of limitation and restrictions of the user account. Maybe it could be base on the area the user is located or some red flags. Or it could also be for some newly created accounts and the online casino implemented some "compulsive gambling" control, so they put a limit on the account. Not sure about it though.


I doubt the tracking done by casinos would involve tracking their email address across multiple casinos. And I think it could indeed be circumvented by using a throw-away email. The problem is when they're also tracking IP information and share this with other casinos.
Sharing info with other casinos sounds illegal, but could also be useful for them to identify abusive accounts.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Wiwo on February 15, 2023, 08:49:02 AM
No KYC is not a full guarantee to stay off the radar of account limitations, this is because casinos, both KYC and none KYC all have security teams that check the activities of players in their casinos, this is a standard practice to check abusers.
-And if a player is found to have abused and violated any of the casino's rules their accounts can still be limited and means of the investigation will be implemented, that is why the casino suddenly asks players for some form of verification at some point.
-The use of a VPN can give you access to restricted sites but does not secure the account from being limited at any point of account to violate any terms of service.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: traderethereum on February 15, 2023, 09:34:52 AM
It's not uncommon for people to use different email addresses for different purposes, such as personal and work email, or to avoid getting spam in their primary email.
Usually, people like that will not easily give their main email address to anyone.
They are better off providing an email address that has nothing to do with their main email address so that if something happens or spam in the email, their main email address won't be full of spam.
We have to care about ourselves when surfing the internet and if we want to register for a website, don't use the main email address.
But a casino won't look into someone's email address to another casino because the casino would rather investigate what happened to someone's account in their database so they can make their decision.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Nrcewker on February 15, 2023, 10:28:53 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I don’t think, the casinos follow this method to track these shady activities of the players. I mean no casino will share their gamblers details to the other crypto casinos or bookies. But now the question comes, how does these casinos limit the user’s account. The casinos I guess track the user’s profile and when they win more and that too on low budget matches, then they force limit the user’s account. Moreover creating alternate emails are very easy and using this to track the cheaters are very hard.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: fullhdpixel on February 15, 2023, 01:47:41 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
I don’t think, the casinos follow this method to track these shady activities of the players. I mean no casino will share their gamblers details to the other crypto casinos or bookies. But now the question comes, how does these casinos limit the user’s account. The casinos I guess track the user’s profile and when they win more and that too on low budget matches, then they force limit the user’s account. Moreover creating alternate emails are very easy and using this to track the cheaters are very hard.
This method may not work so I think there are other methods that they use. When it comes to sharing details, we don't know but maybe some of them already committed it? Same to other company or social media sites who also share or sell details to the other company without the consent of their users. Casinos can do what they want including monitoring each of their players' activity.

It is required so that they will spot if some of them are doing something shady and is against the casino rules. They will then do some actions. It's only weird or kinda inappropriate when a casino restricts our account for winning too much when the wins are also fair.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: YOSHIE on February 15, 2023, 02:33:22 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Let's say a user who gambles sets a different email, cellphone number, identity, at a different casino, I don't think that's one of the reasons for the casino to limit and block these users.

I think some casinos don't care about email, kyc and so on, they limit users because the casino detects that the user is doing multi-accounts, they track from the IP of the user itself.

IP is unavoidable, sometimes some users who gamble use different browsers, Chrome to register at the same casino, multiple betting destinations, with different accounts, maybe some casinos don't care about that if the user loses, if you win a big bet, problems arise, blocks, limits and so on, I think that's a problem we often see here.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Blitzboy on February 15, 2023, 04:56:16 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I don’t think, the casinos follow this method to track these shady activities of the players. I mean no casino will share their gamblers details to the other crypto casinos or bookies. But now the question comes, how does these casinos limit the user’s account. The casinos I guess track the user’s profile and when they win more and that too on low budget matches, then they force limit the user’s account. Moreover creating alternate emails are very easy and using this to track the cheaters are very hard.
Since doing so may potntially get them into legal trouble and hurt they're image, I agree that casinos are unlikely to exchange player information with other crypto casinos or bookmakers. However, casinos are able to keep tabs on they're customers by, for example, freezing they're accounts if they accrue too much money by betting on low-stakes games. It's simple to create a new email acount and use that, but casinos can still track a player's profile and habits and catch any unusual activty. Perhaps some casinos in the past have sold customer information, but this is hard to establish without hard proof. Last but not least, it is up to the casinos to provide a safe and secure enviroment for they're customers, and account suspensions should only be implemented in cases of obvious cheeting or other rule breaches


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: BobK71 on February 15, 2023, 05:12:28 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I don’t think, the casinos follow this method to track these shady activities of the players. I mean no casino will share their gamblers details to the other crypto casinos or bookies. But now the question comes, how does these casinos limit the user’s account. The casinos I guess track the user’s profile and when they win more and that too on low budget matches, then they force limit the user’s account. Moreover creating alternate emails are very easy and using this to track the cheaters are very hard.
Since doing so may potntially get them into legal trouble and hurt they're image, I agree that casinos are unlikely to exchange player information with other crypto casinos or bookmakers. However, casinos are able to keep tabs on they're customers by, for example, freezing they're accounts if they accrue too much money by betting on low-stakes games. It's simple to create a new email acount and use that, but casinos can still track a player's profile and habits and catch any unusual activty. Perhaps some casinos in the past have sold customer information, but this is hard to establish without hard proof. Last but not least, it is up to the casinos to provide a safe and secure enviroment for they're customers, and account suspensions should only be implemented in cases of obvious cheeting or other rule breaches
Casinos normally do not take action unless something suspicious happens against an account. They know that if any active account is restricted that will be their loss. But if there is no major complaint then they don't take any action. They have the ability to get a user's information by their advance security system. They can easily find out the user's device and IP. A user has to be most careful. If the casino discovers a user's error, all money may go to the dogs.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: South Park on February 16, 2023, 08:05:03 PM
No KYC is not a full guarantee to stay off the radar of account limitations, this is because casinos, both KYC and none KYC all have security teams that check the activities of players in their casinos, this is a standard practice to check abusers.
-And if a player is found to have abused and violated any of the casino's rules their accounts can still be limited and means of the investigation will be implemented, that is why the casino suddenly asks players for some form of verification at some point.
-The use of a VPN can give you access to restricted sites but does not secure the account from being limited at any point of account to violate any terms of service.
If anything the use of a VPN could be a flag for the casino that you may be trying to hide something by the use of it, and even if that is not the case and you only care about obtaining some privacy, if your activity is slightly suspicious to them then you could face a KYC request much earlier than what it may have happened if you just gambled at that casino with your regular IP, then it is key to simply gamble as we usually do and avoid trying to outsmart the casino, because most likely you will fail anyway.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Yatsan on February 16, 2023, 09:44:56 PM
No KYC is not a full guarantee to stay off the radar of account limitations, this is because casinos, both KYC and none KYC all have security teams that check the activities of players in their casinos, this is a standard practice to check abusers.
-And if a player is found to have abused and violated any of the casino's rules their accounts can still be limited and means of the investigation will be implemented, that is why the casino suddenly asks players for some form of verification at some point.
-The use of a VPN can give you access to restricted sites but does not secure the account from being limited at any point of account to violate any terms of service.
If anything the use of a VPN could be a flag for the casino that you may be trying to hide something by the use of it, and even if that is not the case and you only care about obtaining some privacy, if your activity is slightly suspicious to them then you could face a KYC request much earlier than what it may have happened if you just gambled at that casino with your regular IP, then it is key to simply gamble as we usually do and avoid trying to outsmart the casino, because most likely you will fail anyway.
Either you comply or leave;, these are a gambler's option if ever you are up against the gambling site's rules. I'd take freezing accounts, as cited by other users, as an example. Indeed the rootcause is suspiscion and lack of compliance with what they'd do to it, will result to freezing. But it will be lifted 'coz to most gambling sites, there is this thing called appeal through contact with the technical support. Explanation therefore would save the day. On the other hand,  I don't know of such rule wherein players are not allowed to register on multiple gambling sites and also, platforms are not linked with one another. But KYC is mostly done with transactions of either both withdrawal and deposit.. My point is to just comply as long as what they are asking is fair on your end.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Wiwo on February 16, 2023, 10:34:59 PM
No KYC is not a full guarantee to stay off the radar of account limitations, this is because casinos, both KYC and none KYC all have security teams that check the activities of players in their casinos, this is a standard practice to check abusers.
-And if a player is found to have abused and violated any of the casino's rules their accounts can still be limited and means of the investigation will be implemented, that is why the casino suddenly asks players for some form of verification at some point.
-The use of a VPN can give you access to restricted sites but does not secure the account from being limited at any point of account to violate any terms of service.
If anything the use of a VPN could be a flag for the casino that you may be trying to hide something by the use of it, and even if that is not the case and you only care about obtaining some privacy, if your activity is slightly suspicious to them then you could face a KYC request much earlier than what it may have happened if you just gambled at that casino with your regular IP, then it is key to simply gamble as we usually do and avoid trying to outsmart the casino because most likely you will fail anyway.
Exactly and if a player has nothing to hide and there is no up restriction I see no reason why a player will opt to use a VPN and in all sincerity, a VPN is not a good experience for the players since its networks slow down the internet traffic and also delay your gaming experience because of the data required for the VPN which ultimately affects the overall flow your streaming games.
-I don't have any problem with no VPN usage and I will likely stay away from any casino that will force me to use von if it is not available in my country.
-Also I don't have any problem handing over my documents for verification if I trust the site and I monitor my activities on the casino to avoid ruining into law enforcement problems.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Finestream on February 17, 2023, 06:13:20 AM
What do you mean limiting user accounts? Limiting their bets? I mean, maximum bets? I have read of a similar complaint or two but it is usually triggered by the user making a big win, probably one after another. Worse, the prize would not even be released because the bets made were already beyond the maximum. However, it's shady since the bet was allowed in the first place.

I doubt the tracking done by casinos would involve tracking their email address across multiple casinos. And I think it could indeed be circumvented by using a throw-away email. The problem is when they're also tracking IP information and share this with other casinos.
Through limiting their user account, it could also mean limiting their bets and I think this is not new anymore  as casinos also set the maximum prize that they can only refund to their bettors. So if a single user has different accounts and all those are winning one after the other, that could really be a problem on part of the casinos. So casinos have to do their part too by looking the patterns on how they bet, aside from monitoring their email add and locate their IP address. That way, it’s possible that those users who have made various accounts will easily be tracked.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Strongkored on February 17, 2023, 08:26:23 AM
Through limiting their user account, it could also mean limiting their bets and I think this is not new anymore  as casinos also set the maximum prize that they can only refund to their bettors. So if a single user has different accounts and all those are winning one after the other, that could really be a problem on part of the casinos. So casinos have to do their part too by looking the patterns on how they bet, aside from monitoring their email add and locate their IP address. That way, it’s possible that those users who have made various accounts will easily be tracked.

I see that even when a user's account is hit by a limit, players will not only be able to make bets with a small value but there are bookmakers who also give different odds to that player compared to odds for other players who don't get any limits, this is quite new for me but before bookmakers implement this they must have done an investigation of the account first, so all limits are made after getting a clear picture of their users' activities


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Sanitough on February 17, 2023, 10:06:22 AM
Through limiting their user account, it could also mean limiting their bets and I think this is not new anymore  as casinos also set the maximum prize that they can only refund to their bettors. So if a single user has different accounts and all those are winning one after the other, that could really be a problem on part of the casinos. So casinos have to do their part too by looking the patterns on how they bet, aside from monitoring their email add and locate their IP address. That way, it’s possible that those users who have made various accounts will easily be tracked.

I see that even when a user's account is hit by a limit, players will not only be able to make bets with a small value but there are bookmakers who also give different odds to that player compared to odds for other players who don't get any limits, this is quite new for me but before bookmakers implement this they must have done an investigation of the account first, so all limits are made after getting a clear picture of their users' activities
Different odds? Come on, I don't think that happens in sports betting. Odds are the same for everyone, and a specific gambling site would always provide the same odds to avoid being abused through the arbitrage method. A limit is a limit; they can only limit the amount of bet you can make, but they cannot change the odds to give you a disadvantage. That's an obvious way of cheating, which I doubt is happening.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Coin_trader on February 17, 2023, 12:58:56 PM
Through limiting their user account, it could also mean limiting their bets and I think this is not new anymore  as casinos also set the maximum prize that they can only refund to their bettors. So if a single user has different accounts and all those are winning one after the other, that could really be a problem on part of the casinos. So casinos have to do their part too by looking the patterns on how they bet, aside from monitoring their email add and locate their IP address. That way, it’s possible that those users who have made various accounts will easily be tracked.

I see that even when a user's account is hit by a limit, players will not only be able to make bets with a small value but there are bookmakers who also give different odds to that player compared to odds for other players who don't get any limits, this is quite new for me but before bookmakers implement this they must have done an investigation of the account first, so all limits are made after getting a clear picture of their users' activities
Different odds? Come on, I don't think that happens in sports betting. Odds are the same for everyone, and a specific gambling site would always provide the same odds to avoid being abused through the arbitrage method. A limit is a limit; they can only limit the amount of bet you can make, but they cannot change the odds to give you a disadvantage. That's an obvious way of cheating, which I doubt is happening.

Yep, Odds is fixed in every player since it will be very hard for a bookmaker to gave a different set of odds for a set of user that has a betting limit. But it’s possible to change an odds set to a specific person without the risk of having abused by arbitrage betting.

They can always lower the odds on both side and make the EV of the game become more negative but again this is so hassle for them to implement on a specific user. I think betting limit is what the user you quoted meant on his statement.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Peanutswar on February 17, 2023, 03:07:03 PM
Actually the casino prefered to those players who are actively playing and of course just to have another feature of gambling responsibility they set some limits to them if the players enable those some cases that they are requiring a KYC because the Casino sees the point of this player have a huge amount deposits and they want to make sure that the players account is secured that's why some of them requires a KYC if you are a large pool players so incase you might have a trouble its easy to them to track and get back your accounts most likely this happens but not all the times. Other players want to stick with the anonymous playing still.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: QueenVera on February 17, 2023, 03:10:27 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Actually I use different emails for all casinos I'm trying out but I really don't think there is any possibility of tracking the email of a player just because they're linked to several casinos and I don't think anyone actually does any of those tracking a d if they do, the I would want to ask why?
And I also came across a thread talking about casinos limiting winnings of a particular user because of some locations and regulatory bodies and most times I still wonder how people really take there time to figure out all of those stuffs.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: doomloop on February 17, 2023, 04:55:40 PM
Through limiting their user account, it could also mean limiting their bets and I think this is not new anymore  as casinos also set the maximum prize that they can only refund to their bettors. So if a single user has different accounts and all those are winning one after the other, that could really be a problem on part of the casinos. So casinos have to do their part too by looking the patterns on how they bet, aside from monitoring their email add and locate their IP address. That way, it’s possible that those users who have made various accounts will easily be tracked.
To limit someone's accounts is too general and there are different restrictions that can be done here and one of it is like you said, to limit their bets placed. There are also cases where the odds are limited. Yes this is not new but I already saw this even before and I think some of us already got an idea on why it can happen so we just avoid it than to feel disappointed later on.

There are still other ways to bet or enjoy gambling, not only a certain betting site or on a certain game. Multi accounts are strictly prohibited and the reason why the player has it is for the sole purpose of doing an abuse so casinos has the right to punish them.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Bushdark on February 17, 2023, 06:50:06 PM
Through limiting their user account, it could also mean limiting their bets and I think this is not new anymore  as casinos also set the maximum prize that they can only refund to their bettors. So if a single user has different accounts and all those are winning one after the other, that could really be a problem on part of the casinos. So casinos have to do their part too by looking the patterns on how they bet, aside from monitoring their email add and locate their IP address. That way, it’s possible that those users who have made various accounts will easily be tracked.

I see that even when a user's account is hit by a limit, players will not only be able to make bets with a small value but there are bookmakers who also give different odds to that player compared to odds for other players who don't get any limits, this is quite new for me but before bookmakers implement this they must have done an investigation of the account first, so all limits are made after getting a clear picture of their users' activities
Different odds? Come on, I don't think that happens in sports betting. Odds are the same for everyone, and a specific gambling site would always provide the same odds to avoid being abused through the arbitrage method. A limit is a limit; they can only limit the amount of bet you can make, but they cannot change the odds to give you a disadvantage. That's an obvious way of cheating, which I doubt is happening.
That's is crystal clear and the only thing they can do is to reduce the limit but they can not manipulate them.
This is my first time of hearing about this but I don't think there power would exceed just limiting your account to a particular odds.
I know.of gamblers that doesn't care about the odd because they like taking a big risks of making bets with high odds that can be very annoying to me. Just like we have some gamblers that do not gamble with big money but rather with small money going to high odds.
Sometimes they feel like winning big amount of money when you check there game for the odds and amout to be won.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Darker45 on February 18, 2023, 01:11:22 PM
~snip~
Through limiting their user account, it could also mean limiting their bets and I think this is not new anymore  as casinos also set the maximum prize that they can only refund to their bettors. So if a single user has different accounts and all those are winning one after the other, that could really be a problem on part of the casinos. So casinos have to do their part too by looking the patterns on how they bet, aside from monitoring their email add and locate their IP address. That way, it’s possible that those users who have made various accounts will easily be tracked.

On the contrary, casinos would be happy if gamblers are betting heavily. That's what they want. As a matter of fact, they are spending significant amounts of money for promotion and marketing. That's to attract bettors. That's to attract bets. High rollers are even invited to become VIP members. But I've read allegations that after a number of wins, big wins, platforms are reducing a user's maximum limit. I guess platforms have been doing that.

In terms of accounts, casinos have specific rules about it. Many only allow a single account. There are also platforms which allow more than one but still limited. Some allow sub-accounts under a single main account.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: qwertyup23 on February 18, 2023, 01:29:51 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I do think it is possible to circumvent it but the feature will remain the same. Not to mention, creating multiple accounts with different e-mail addresses would put you on the risk of having your accounts banned. If I were you, I will not put myself in that situation especially the if the gambling website would be able to track my IP address and completely prohibit me from gambling on their website.

Instead of circumventing this feature, might as well just gamble to another website. If KYC is a feature that will completely eliminate the chances of you gambling, then do not even risk circumventing any feature that is stipulated on the TOS of the gambling website.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: molsewid on February 18, 2023, 01:33:43 PM
That's is crystal clear and the only thing they can do is to reduce the limit but they can not manipulate them.
This is my first time of hearing about this but I don't think there power would exceed just limiting your account to a particular odds.
I know.of gamblers that doesn't care about the odd because they like taking a big risks of making bets with high odds that can be very annoying to me. Just like we have some gamblers that do not gamble with big money but rather with small money going to high odds.
Sometimes they feel like winning big amount of money when you check there game for the odds and amout to be won.
Yeah , maybe they only limit people with their withdrawal amount only but in terms of deposit and amounts of bets, I wonder if they will limit that. Casinos would love if a person is loyal to them and spend so much, as per the OP's idea having a different email is not a good option because they can block the physical address instead of the gambler if they will put an extra effort to it.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Sanitough on February 18, 2023, 01:40:58 PM
That's is crystal clear and the only thing they can do is to reduce the limit but they can not manipulate them.
This is my first time of hearing about this but I don't think there power would exceed just limiting your account to a particular odds.
I know.of gamblers that doesn't care about the odd because they like taking a big risks of making bets with high odds that can be very annoying to me. Just like we have some gamblers that do not gamble with big money but rather with small money going to high odds.
Sometimes they feel like winning big amount of money when you check there game for the odds and amout to be won.
Yeah , maybe they only limit people with their withdrawal amount only but in terms of deposit and amounts of bets, I wonder if they will limit that. Casinos would love if a person is loyal to them and spend so much, as per the OP's idea having a different email is not a good option because they can block the physical address instead of the gambler if they will put an extra effort to it.
That's unethical to limit the withdrawal amount, that's your money so you have the right to withdraw your funds including your winnings of course. The only limitation they'll make is your bet, that way if you keep winning, they can still continue running their business because you are not winning majority of their bankroll. Additionally, if you really can't lose, then I guess they might ban you, you can't complain as it's their right, their casino their rules, but no way they will steal your money like limiting your withdrawals.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 19, 2023, 08:05:33 AM
That's unethical to limit the withdrawal amount, that's your money so you have the right to withdraw your funds including your winnings of course. The only limitation they'll make is your bet, that way if you keep winning, they can still continue running their business because you are not winning majority of their bankroll. Additionally, if you really can't lose, then I guess they might ban you, you can't complain as it's their right, their casino their rules, but no way they will steal your money like limiting your withdrawals.
I think I've seen some casinos are have withdrawal limit in their terms of services, usually they have a retention maximum withdrawal for a day, a week, a month and a year. I wouldn't call it scam, but it's mostly because you have a problem or you're a high roller. As long as the casino is trusted enough, all you need is patience and hope they wouldn't disappear. Maybe they have a limited bankroll, that's why they're limit your withdrawal too.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Betwrong on February 19, 2023, 09:29:08 AM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Frankly, I wouldn't recommend you to mess with this. Casinos may use various methods to identify and track users, such as IP address, device ID, and payment information, in addition to email address. So, using different email addresses to register with multiple casinos can get you into trouble (account termination, loss of funds etc).

This is true, trying to curcumwent restricitons is risky. And not only because your account can be frozen, but also because maybe you shouldn't gamble in the first place?

I would contact support, and asked them why was I restricted instead of trying to circumvent the restriction. It is very likely that your knowledge of tracking is inferior to that of their technicians, so, if are not one of those tech savvy guys from Mission Impossible, don't try to beat them on that field.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Strongkored on February 19, 2023, 12:25:05 PM
Through limiting their user account, it could also mean limiting their bets and I think this is not new anymore  as casinos also set the maximum prize that they can only refund to their bettors. So if a single user has different accounts and all those are winning one after the other, that could really be a problem on part of the casinos. So casinos have to do their part too by looking the patterns on how they bet, aside from monitoring their email add and locate their IP address. That way, it’s possible that those users who have made various accounts will easily be tracked.

I see that even when a user's account is hit by a limit, players will not only be able to make bets with a small value but there are bookmakers who also give different odds to that player compared to odds for other players who don't get any limits, this is quite new for me but before bookmakers implement this they must have done an investigation of the account first, so all limits are made after getting a clear picture of their users' activities
Different odds? Come on, I don't think that happens in sports betting. Odds are the same for everyone, and a specific gambling site would always provide the same odds to avoid being abused through the arbitrage method. A limit is a limit; they can only limit the amount of bet you can make, but they cannot change the odds to give you a disadvantage. That's an obvious way of cheating, which I doubt is happening.
Surely no one would have thought about it or could even believe it as well as me but it's different when I read complaints from players at one of the bookies you can check directly https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418423.msg61584601#msg61584601
and I even thought that he was wrong but that was explained by the representatives of the gambling site, so I'm not just talking


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Casdinyard on February 19, 2023, 04:37:43 PM
They can do all the contingencies they want to subvert these odd abusers and account spammers but they will just keep popping up. KYC is a good measure but nowadays it's getting easier and easier to falsify documents and therefore be able to use them for something like gambling. There's also the fact that some use some sort of tracking that read's a player's/gambler's pattern and compares it to an account they suspect of abusing these advantages, but it could only go so far, especially if the tracking system could be overloaded with data, which some could be AFAIK.

In any case, in this battle against odd provider vs the gambler, the gambler will always win, might as well carry on with their day to day as usual instead of picking a needless fight.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: madnessteat on February 19, 2023, 05:38:52 PM
^

If the casinos want to beat this they will just add a video call to the KYC procedure. Yes, it will take much more time as well as casino resources, but this approach can reduce the number of fake accounts in casinos. I don't really think it bothers the casino much because every potential casino player is a potential revenue stream for the casino owner.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Zackgeno96 on February 19, 2023, 07:07:39 PM
It is common for people to get a limit on their account. Gambling sites also prefer not to do business with people who win a lot of money. That means they have to pay out a lot of money. This often goes hand in hand with the KYC. I always wonder why they give you low limits. Players who win a lot and bet big, don't they automatically lose? That seems to me to be an ideal time for gambling sites not to lower the limits. At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run. But if they keep winning then you have a problem and as a gambling site you can lose a lot of money.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Solosanz on February 22, 2023, 08:19:43 AM
At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run.
This theory only work on luck based games e.g. slots, dice, etc where you don't have any way to control your bet since the result is completely random. While in sportsbookie you can bet in any event and any option you like, so if you're a professional bettor you might make a lot money in through gambling. As a casino they wouldn't want this and they will limit your bet to prevent them from future losses.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Viscore on February 23, 2023, 07:50:35 PM
It's not uncommon for people to use different email addresses for different purposes, such as personal and work email, or to avoid getting spam in their primary email.
Usually, people like that will not easily give their main email address to anyone.
They are better off providing an email address that has nothing to do with their main email address so that if something happens or spam in the email, their main email address won't be full of spam.
We have to care about ourselves when surfing the internet and if we want to register for a website, don't use the main email address.
But a casino won't look into someone's email address to another casino because the casino would rather investigate what happened to someone's account in their database so they can make their decision.
You have a point here. There should be separate email address when it comes to gambling casinos registration knowing anytime it can be target of investigation especially if there is cheating done. That’s normal, although cheating is never normal for honest gamblers. But good thing, at least your main email address is still safe and is free from any investigation. Btw, i don’t think each casino will have access to the other casino, unless if it’s affiliated with one another.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: South Park on February 24, 2023, 09:15:54 PM
It's not uncommon for people to use different email addresses for different purposes, such as personal and work email, or to avoid getting spam in their primary email.
Usually, people like that will not easily give their main email address to anyone.
They are better off providing an email address that has nothing to do with their main email address so that if something happens or spam in the email, their main email address won't be full of spam.
We have to care about ourselves when surfing the internet and if we want to register for a website, don't use the main email address.
But a casino won't look into someone's email address to another casino because the casino would rather investigate what happened to someone's account in their database so they can make their decision.
You have a point here. There should be separate email address when it comes to gambling casinos registration knowing anytime it can be target of investigation especially if there is cheating done. That’s normal, although cheating is never normal for honest gamblers. But good thing, at least your main email address is still safe and is free from any investigation. Btw, i don’t think each casino will have access to the other casino, unless if it’s affiliated with one another.
Another good reason to have an email dedicated just for your gambling activities is that at some point gamblers may decide they want to take a break or to stop gambling completely, and if you are using your personal email then you cannot simply stop using it and you will keep receiving offers tempting you to play, and while this is not a problem for those like us which are in complete control of our gambling, it can be very problematic for those which are going through a gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Betwrong on February 26, 2023, 08:29:23 AM
At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run.
This theory only work on luck based games e.g. slots, dice, etc where you don't have any way to control your bet since the result is completely random. While in sportsbookie you can bet in any event and any option you like, so if you're a professional bettor you might make a lot money in through gambling. As a casino they wouldn't want this and they will limit your bet to prevent them from future losses.

In the past, when it was hard to prevent various forms of cheating  on the part of gamblers, people that winning "too much" were restricted from this or that casino. Today I don't think it is still a thing. Big online casinos are not afraid of those gamblers, professional poker players or sports bettors, who can win millions. On the contrary, they want to attract such gamblers to their platforms to use the cases of their huge wins for advertising purposes.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: TheGreatPython on February 26, 2023, 01:20:46 PM
Another good reason to have an email dedicated just for your gambling activities is that at some point gamblers may decide they want to take a break or to stop gambling completely, and if you are using your personal email then you cannot simply stop using it and you will keep receiving offers tempting you to play, and while this is not a problem for those like us which are in complete control of our gambling, it can be very problematic for those which are going through a gambling addiction.
Don't forget that there is a feature called self-exclusion on many gambling sites right now which could help the person to distance themselves in gambling for a while or permanently but in order to be sure that you won't receive any mails from a gambling website, you can uncheck the "stop receiving promotional mails" in your account settings. Most gambling sites that I visited so far have this.

Another one would be to mark the existing email on your mailbox as spam and then hit that mute button as well. All these may only be a temporary remedy because there are still ways for an addicted gambler to play gambling again. Seeking professional help offline will still be the best option IMO.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: famososMuertos on February 26, 2023, 04:45:49 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I'm going to get to the point, you ask a specific, direct question, and as I read, a month has already passed, you forgot us, no!, so, I ask you:

 Are you interested in cheating?

 The best first bet that can be made in a casino is honesty, looking for dishonest "ways" is not a good "way".

 Or are you just curious...

 Greetings, ah!, you do KYC to your thread. Ty!

:)


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: fullhdpixel on February 26, 2023, 08:44:31 PM
They can do all the contingencies they want to subvert these odd abusers and account spammers but they will just keep popping up. KYC is a good measure but nowadays it's getting easier and easier to falsify documents and therefore be able to use them for something like gambling. There's also the fact that some use some sort of tracking that read's a player's/gambler's pattern and compares it to an account they suspect of abusing these advantages, but it could only go so far, especially if the tracking system could be overloaded with data, which some could be AFAIK.

In any case, in this battle against odd provider vs the gambler, the gambler will always win, might as well carry on with their day to day as usual instead of picking a needless fight.
Abusers can easily be restricted through KYC if casinos that better measures for their KYC application than only asking for documents. If they ask for a selfie with the documents or a short video of the person holding the document, that would definitely limit abuses of multiple account creation.

I'm not sure how they identify the abusers that copy the patterns of other gamblers to increase their odds of winning, but if they really have some tracking system for it, then it shouldn't really be difficult once they implement the changes that I mentioned for KYC of all their gamblers.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: redsun114 on February 28, 2023, 10:08:31 AM
It is common for people to get a limit on their account. Gambling sites also prefer not to do business with people who win a lot of money. That means they have to pay out a lot of money. This often goes hand in hand with the KYC. I always wonder why they give you low limits. Players who win a lot and bet big, don't they automatically lose? That seems to me to be an ideal time for gambling sites not to lower the limits. At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run. But if they keep winning then you have a problem and as a gambling site you can lose a lot of money.
It is not really a common thing for people to get limits on their accounts for only winning something big. Casinos don't go bankrupt just because a few players win since there are thousands more who are losing at the same time, so this thing doesn't really bother them. Unless, the person who is winning is using an unethical way of winning like cheating or using some kind of script or something.

If that's the case, the providers or the platform is in no way wrong for asking for KYC or limiting the accounts and asking for some verification etc. They have all the rights to do so since they are transparent and they expect the same from their players in return.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: AicecreaME on February 28, 2023, 11:33:00 AM
It is common for people to get a limit on their account. Gambling sites also prefer not to do business with people who win a lot of money. That means they have to pay out a lot of money. This often goes hand in hand with the KYC. I always wonder why they give you low limits. Players who win a lot and bet big, don't they automatically lose? That seems to me to be an ideal time for gambling sites not to lower the limits. At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run. But if they keep winning then you have a problem and as a gambling site you can lose a lot of money.
It is not really a common thing for people to get limits on their accounts for only winning something big. Casinos don't go bankrupt just because a few players win since there are thousands more who are losing at the same time, so this thing doesn't really bother them. Unless, the person who is winning is using an unethical way of winning like cheating or using some kind of script or something.

If that's the case, the providers or the platform is in no way wrong for asking for KYC or limiting the accounts and asking for some verification etc. They have all the rights to do so since they are transparent and they expect the same from their players in return.

Although most of the times, for those people who often win especially huge amounts consecutively, the casinos tend to somehow put a limit and lower the odds of winning of the account over time. I've seen many players rant about this here in forum. Some find it unfair, while some just don't care that much. It's not really always putting a limit such as freezing their accounts, rather lowering the rtp odds of the account itself so that there would be lesser chance of winning on the side of the gambler for a certain period of time since he already maximized the winnings previously.

But I'm not quite sure for how long the casino hold back the odds for an account with frequent winning. Perhaps this differs from their tos and policies, so one must really read before agreeing because everything is already written, some are just too lazy to read which is why when they encounter something unusual, they complain right away.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: South Park on March 03, 2023, 07:08:30 PM
Another good reason to have an email dedicated just for your gambling activities is that at some point gamblers may decide they want to take a break or to stop gambling completely, and if you are using your personal email then you cannot simply stop using it and you will keep receiving offers tempting you to play, and while this is not a problem for those like us which are in complete control of our gambling, it can be very problematic for those which are going through a gambling addiction.
Don't forget that there is a feature called self-exclusion on many gambling sites right now which could help the person to distance themselves in gambling for a while or permanently but in order to be sure that you won't receive any mails from a gambling website, you can uncheck the "stop receiving promotional mails" in your account settings. Most gambling sites that I visited so far have this.

Another one would be to mark the existing email on your mailbox as spam and then hit that mute button as well. All these may only be a temporary remedy because there are still ways for an addicted gambler to play gambling again. Seeking professional help offline will still be the best option IMO.
Those are good measures that you can take, however this assumes that those systems work as intended and I have seen a lot of complains about this not being the case, some casinos can still send you promotional emails even if you unsubscribe from their list, this could be a mistake or it could be done on purpose but it happens, and self-exclusion is also a hit and miss feature in some casinos, so it is important to always be in complete control of our gambling or overcoming an addiction to it will be very challenging.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Finestream on March 03, 2023, 07:24:31 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Frankly, I wouldn't recommend you to mess with this. Casinos may use various methods to identify and track users, such as IP address, device ID, and payment information, in addition to email address. So, using different email addresses to register with multiple casinos can get you into trouble (account termination, loss of funds etc).

This is true, trying to curcumwent restricitons is risky. And not only because your account can be frozen, but also because maybe you shouldn't gamble in the first place?

I would contact support, and asked them why was I restricted instead of trying to circumvent the restriction. It is very likely that your knowledge of tracking is inferior to that of their technicians, so, if are not one of those tech savvy guys from Mission Impossible, don't try to beat them on that field.
Don’t think we can beat them, otherwise we will be restricted from gambling even from those reputable casinos we often gamble. If we don’t like their idea of tracking us, then it’s better not to gamble at all than contradicting their rules and find ourselves in a huge trouble once we are caught. Using different email address is just scary, but I guess those who are professional tech savvy are still able to do it successfully.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Fortify on March 03, 2023, 07:57:21 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Sure, you can "circumvent" the protections that casinos and bookmakers put in place, but you're doing it with the intent to defraud a company which could lead to criminal prosecution. Like it or not, these companies are operating a certain business mode that mean most people lose money, those people are not forced to deposit money - they do so of their own free will and lose it on that same basis. They generally agree to the rules of using these sites, because they're holding out hope that they are the one in a (hundred) million player who might win big. If you don't want to follow the rules of the game, play a lottery instead because you probably have the same chance of winning big in the long run without trying to commit fraud with such actions.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Wakate on March 03, 2023, 11:31:10 PM
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I'm going to get to the point, you ask a specific, direct question, and as I read, a month has already passed, you forgot us, no!, so, I ask you:

 Are you interested in cheating?

 The best first bet that can be made in a casino is honesty, looking for dishonest "ways" is not a good "way".

 Or are you just curious...

 Greetings, ah!, you do KYC to your thread. Ty!

:)
It seems like op is just trying to be extra ordinary careful for nothing. He is somehow scared of providers limit the numbers of odd we can accumulate. Maybe he has plan of betting with bigger odds which I don't see it as a best way to play bet. When I want to book games, I do make sure that the odds is not many because this might affect me later on since the number of game too will be plenty. I like betting is the most easy and profitable way so I can hit a jack pot with lesser odds and bigger fund to back it up. It is very okay for me to bet big on small odds.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Betwrong on March 05, 2023, 07:20:05 AM
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Those are good measures that you can take, however this assumes that those systems work as intended and I have seen a lot of complains about this not being the case, some casinos can still send you promotional emails even if you unsubscribe from their list, this could be a mistake or it could be done on purpose but it happens, and self-exclusion is also a hit and miss feature in some casinos, so it is important to always be in complete control of our gambling or overcoming an addiction to it will be very challenging.

I personally think if such things happen, it's a mistake. Casinos have enough customers who are not gambling addicted, and they, casinos, are not so greedy and evil to be taking advantage of sick people sending them promotional emails to lure them into gambling. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that there are no greedy and evil people in the world. There are many of them, and, of course, some of them own casinos. I'm just trying to explain that those evil cases are exceptions rather than the rules.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: South Park on March 12, 2023, 08:32:12 PM
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Those are good measures that you can take, however this assumes that those systems work as intended and I have seen a lot of complains about this not being the case, some casinos can still send you promotional emails even if you unsubscribe from their list, this could be a mistake or it could be done on purpose but it happens, and self-exclusion is also a hit and miss feature in some casinos, so it is important to always be in complete control of our gambling or overcoming an addiction to it will be very challenging.

I personally think if such things happen, it's a mistake. Casinos have enough customers who are not gambling addicted, and they, casinos, are not so greedy and evil to be taking advantage of sick people sending them promotional emails to lure them into gambling. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that there are no greedy and evil people in the world. There are many of them, and, of course, some of them own casinos. I'm just trying to explain that those evil cases are exceptions rather than the rules.
And you are correct, by far it is way more common that if you unsubscribe from the list of a casino or any other service and you still receive some emails from them this was done by mistake and this is not the result of them acting on bad faith against their own customers, however for the ones that have some gambling addiction problem this mistake is a huge deal, and it is because of this I have always thought it is a good idea to have an email exclusive for our gambling activities, this way if such a thing happened it would not affect us at all, as if we have decided to stop gambling then we will have no chance to even look at such message as we would not even login into our email account.


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: Zackgeno96 on March 12, 2023, 08:58:37 PM
The most annoying thing is undoubtedly the fact that you cannot see how much money you can bet with a bookmaker. And that is exactly what you want. Bookmakers used to have completely different layouts, then you could immediately see what the maximum bet was with a bet, now you first have to make a bet and then it will be considered how much you can bet. There are even bookmakers who have built in a delay, which allows them to decide for themselves for a few minutes whether they want to retroactively accept the bet placed or not. You might think this is very unfair?


Title: Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit
Post by: South Park on March 20, 2023, 07:12:19 PM
The most annoying thing is undoubtedly the fact that you cannot see how much money you can bet with a bookmaker. And that is exactly what you want. Bookmakers used to have completely different layouts, then you could immediately see what the maximum bet was with a bet, now you first have to make a bet and then it will be considered how much you can bet. There are even bookmakers who have built in a delay, which allows them to decide for themselves for a few minutes whether they want to retroactively accept the bet placed or not. You might think this is very unfair?
That is definitely a problem, in the society of today people are used to get what they want almost immediately and any delay can be very exasperating for them, so when a gambler makes a sport bet they want the bet to be accepted immediately so they can move on and keep enjoying the game, however if you have to wait for a few minutes for this to be the case not only you are missing valuable minutes of your favorite sport, but your bet could be rejected during the process as well making you to waste even more time.