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The volatility of bitcoin won't end anytime, I think we have to give more time for more people to appreciate bitcoin and use it in daily business transactions. At the moment, I believe some form of regulation can help make things pretty much more stable than we have at the moment otherwise we shall experience more issues with volatility. The high price volatility of Bitcoin and other decentralized cryptocurrencies will never evaporate. On the perverse, if the expense of cryptocurrency will improve, the volatility will only boost, as the expense spectrum will develop.
As long as the price of cryptocurrency will depend on supply and demand, the high price volatility of cryptocurrency will remain. Still think the ETF funds can solve this problem, or at least will lessen the volatility of Bitcoin. The more control of the market, the less volatility it will be, now we still don't have any rule or laws to govern this market,.
 

Technically it's possible for government to reduce Bitcoin's volatility as long as they control almost of the exchange (centralized exchange) and they're setting the interval when the we can trade our Bitcoin similar like in stock trading.

But I will be the one who against the idea to reduce Bitcoin's volatility because the reason why I invest in Bitcoin is the high volatility and low risk. High volatility will boost Bitcoin price and the reason why I say Bitcoin has low risk because Bitcoin has the lowest risk among other cryptos.

Is it just me or these topics OP creates in quick succession look suspicious as if they were something that an AI would create...

The posts are low quality and I’m sure OP knows he can’t merit for them. So what’s the play here? Building activity maybe?? The use of ChatGPT and other AI to make posts is a problem we are going to have to deal with. Unfortunately there is no rule to fight it yet.

Any time I see someone writing a post discussing how to limit volatility, I tend to assume they either have little concept of price discovery, or understand it but simply don't have any respect for it.  Either way, it seems as though such people are unwittingly asking for market rigging.  Perhaps I just subscribe to a different economic philosophy to most, but I don't think anyone should be in control of that.

It's only a problem when people try to meddle.  Just allow the market to do its thing.

High volatility are caused by constant large volumes of coins being sold or bought in a short time-frame ...and this can only be reduced, if you can distribute more coins to more people. If there are not small groups of individuals that are hoarding a lot of coins and trading with those coins, then we will not see this kind of volatility.

We need to put more coins in people's hands.... and not have big traders dumping large amounts of coins, when they want to profit.... or buying large amounts of coins, when the price drop.  ::)

The only thing that could decrease volatility is more controlaccess to bitcoin for everyone — hence more trading volume and liquidity. And yea, an actual spot ETF can most definitely significantly help. Hence why it was quite questionable when a futures ETF was approved, but not a spot ETF.

volatility is because there is a wide sentiment of peoples desires and needs and costs

EG if it costs someone in norway just $16k this week to mine bitcoin and someone in hawaii upto $90k to mine it
that sets the wide window of value vs premium where everyone on the planet has their own set "price" they are willing to either buy or sell between

right now its a great price for people in japan and hawaii and other islanders to buy rather then mine, and not so great price for norway to sell or buy. if they can mine it cheaper.

the only true way to calm a real international currency is if everyone on the planet were working and living at the same rate of fiat expense where everyones notion of value and premium were in a more small window.. ..  but thats not how the world forex markets work thus not gonna happen in a world reaching internet currency either

but here is the thing
in fiat when you see that milk and bread can swing from $0.90 to $2.50 depending on location too.. is fiat really "stable", or have we just got used to the changing offers by using words like Sale" "discount" "roll back" "pocket the difference" "convenience" (premium)

You can't stop the volatility artificially. Try that, and you'll get a financial situation similar to the Federal Reserve who keeps printing money to solve all their problems until there's all kind of inflation and debt problems. Instead, let it take its natural course. A little volatility is healthy, but we will just have to wait to see how the situation naturally plays out.

you cant stop it permanently.. but you can temporarily

december seen artificial holding down of the price
yep whales managed to create a resistance line to keep the price below $17k in december and below $23k last week..
it is possible to manipulate the market temporarily. as long as they stay funded and keep their trade bots arbitraging the spot markets eating up any orders that try to buy above the set levels of the whale bots

yep when on a 6 month period you see multiple straightish lines. thats manipulation

but to do it permanently.. well that involves fixing all countries labour rates where everyone on planet works for the same rough income amount to align countries into a small window of variance where things like electric and consumer price index all align too thus everyone on planet sees goods and assets within the same value:premium narrow window of affordability and cost average(not going to happen)

Volatility in Bitcoin price is a part of what drives demand, why would there be any reason to buy if there is no volatility? Even if everyone adopts Bitcoin in future the 4 years cycle will still be in tact because of dollar prints and economy situation, there will be sellers and buyers at the top price then also sellers and buyers at the bottom price. Seriously the only thing why Bitcoin and crypto makes a lot of sense to me apart from store of value in buying back at lower price in a bull market. Right now nothing beats crypto when it comes to investment and returns.

Here the question is. Do we want to end bitcoin volatility?

I think volatility is the best part of bitcoin because we can make huge profits just by holding our coins, and that is how people become rich with bitcoin, buy low and sell high, that's how it works. And bitcoin without volatility wouldn't be as cool as it is right now. It's an investor's tool to hit the moon. So, no one wants to end its volatility.

Volatility is one of the main characteristics of Bitcoin. Its price is set by offer and demand so there is no fixed price for it. And thats basically the beauty of it imo.

I believe that bitcoin will only see ots volatility going down once all coins have been mined. In the meantime, volatility will be a constant, so we should enjoy its volatility and speculate...

Last time crypto community was happy about the volatility of bitcoin because it gives amazing experience in terms of trading on short cycles or day trade. May be if we lose the bitcoin's volatility then we might just lose various characteristics and user experience along with it. The industry that we grew over the time is revolving at the center point of bitcoin, it's nature and volatility obviously.

That is how everyone knows it and adopting it. The fear of bear and fun of bull, that's what making it more interesting and thrilling over the time. So I would care less about it.


Meanwhile in parallel universe, yeah we are gonna face artificial challenges real soon.

This thing is spreading like virus everywhere. First it was biological pandemic, next is what? AI based pandemic screwing whole digital ecosystem. Funny.

banks offer 0.01% savings interest.

even 15% a year is acceptable. but its funny that people in crypt are not even happy with a 15% a week and are waiting for 100X like they seen in 2011 charts

You can not do anything and if you can, just very small contribution.

Volatility of Bitcoin is contributed by some factors like its small trading volume, small marketcap and limited regulations on this market.

• Bitcoin is a biggest cryptocurrency but it is still too small compares to many big tech companies.
• The Bitcoin market in particular is too small to be manipulated than stocks market. Institutional investors can more easily manipulate Bitcoin market with smaller capital than what they need to manipulate in stock market.
• Last but not least, the limited regulations on this market gives great chance for big entities to manipulate it.

Educating people around you about Bitcoin is what you can contribute for Bitcoin adoption and let's say Bitcoin volatility.

Bitcoin is such a young asset, volatility is natural when it’s only been around since 2009. If you’re smart about it, volatility is a good thing that you can use to your advantage.

Try not to worry too much when bitcoin is down. Patience is required but bitcoin overcomes downturns & FUD, it always does. Just hang in there, buy when it’s down & sell some during bullish periods. 

I believe that it allows us to make a lot more profit this way, but at the same time it's going away soon as well. Even right now, we are not as volatile as 10 years ago, why? Because it was cents back then, or dollars but low amount, and we were going up x10 easily.

Nowadays, in order for bitcoin to go up x10, we would need to be 200k+, and even compared to bottom, it had to be 160k give or take, pretty hard to do. So at the end of the day we are talking about something that is less volatile already. So when it does reach 100k, x10 will be 1 million dollars, and even harder and this is just x10 we are talking about, it was even more volatile back in the day, and will fail to do x10 in the future, that is why I think it's less volatile already.

What's wrong with the volatility? I get mad when everyone thinks about this kind of topics and limitations only when price falls but everyone is silenced and paralysed when bitcoin's price skyrockets. Where were the volatility advocates when the price was rising steadily from some cents to hundreds of dollars? Where were people when it was going up to 69K USD? Oh, volatility was good then.
Sorry but I love the volatility of bitcoin, it's the nature of this coin and it's what makes it unique too. If you want stable coins, then stick with USDT or some others, it may fulfill your requirements.

I have opened a few topics regarding the volatility of bitcoin and to my surprise the general response was:

- People want volatility, since they want to attract people into the bitcoin world.
- People want volatility, because they want to earn money with the profits it can bring.
- The few people that dont want volatility want to have bitcoin stable in a few years and not now.

To me this is crazy, but shows what kind of people the volatility of bitcoin largely attracts.

Absolutely!

When you can gain some form of understanding of the way the markets act and
that yes they are volatile, then they will no longer be an issue, or something stressful.

It reads to me like the OP wants a happy Bitcoin utopia where the price either stays
static or constantly increases.

volatility is two sides of blades in my opinion, some people hated it but some people love it. like gold i think volatility of bitcoin will not gonna end unless there is some entity that control all centralized exchange and put limit on bitcoin price but i think is impossible for now

but for now enjoy the volatility buy low sell high on the same dates

Once there is regulation, and the government directly regulates the market, they will more or less reduce the volatility of bitcoin if they want to.

I would also oppose the idea of reducing bitcoin's volatility and don't expect that to happen. We invest in bitcoin because we like its volatility.
But you cannot say bitcoin is highly volatile and low risk, if compared to other cryptocurrencies, bitcoin is not more volatile than shitcoin, so it is less risky than shitcoin. But if you compare bitcoin with other assets, it is clear that bitcoin is very volatile and riskier.

The people who love volatility are the people who benefit from it, people only get angry and complain about it when they loose to the volatility. Why the hurry to end Volatility? Volatility is not a topic to discuss on how to end it, give it time the volatility of bitcoins will reduce and the price of it will become more stable.

One of the ways is to stop producing these altcoins revert year because they are one of the reasons why people divert their investment from bitcoins to those altcoins that will gonna turn shitcoins later on. They are just confusing investors and with their promising words when they first introduce their project, many are lured to invest but will gonna regret their decision after years because they will gonna see the bitcoin price rise, and their altcoins seem not to care no matter how good the situation of the market is and when a bearish trend comes, it will not gonna bounce back and remain at the bottom until their developers give up.

There's nothing artificial we can do to control the price and volatility because Bitcoin is not fiat and is decentralized. But I agree with the op that more daily transactions of using Bitcoin as payment could stabilize the price more. The high volatility is probably due to uncertainty of many people, of viewing Bitcoin primarily as an asset to hodl or trade. If it's more viewed and used as money, that could help. That being said, Bitcoin is often pretty stable at a certain price point for a long time, especially during the bear market. And I'm not sure if it will ever be less volatile than over the last few years, given that the majority are probably interested in Bitcoin as a source of profit, not a financial innovation. We should also consider the trade-offs of stability. How much control should go to some authorities and regulations for the sake of a more stable currency? Personally, I wouldn't want to see us going in that direction, as I don't think volatility is that bad and reducing it is that important.

I totally agree with you, when regulation across the world will be more present then volatility will drop. For now, there is about 4% in crypto which is low, I think with more adoption of cryptocurrency across the world there will be less volatility. I asked myself how the news will impact cryptocurrency, like in forex we can see how news of CB has impacted on the market. Crypto is a great opportunity to be as an individual or a company more efficient and more recognizable and so on. In the next few years, we will see more adoption on side of crypto, and then we can probably see less volatility.

It is like asking when Bitcoin becomes centralized so the price can be controlled. Otherwise, the volatility remains even if the government will take action.

But I guess OP, we have to accept the reality that Bitcoin has been created for such a thing and the price keeps moving up and down. Because what I think is that people become unhappy if the price becomes stable and it lessens the interest of the community if their chance of earning a huge profit is very slim.

Is it possible for bitcoin prices to go higher if you want to end bitcoin volatility? I don't think that because Bitcoin is the most volatile it has enough value globally. If bitcoin keeps a normal price instead of being volatile then no one will feel motivated to invest in bitcoins resulting in a withdrawal of investment from bitcoin and eventually nothing but loss of value. Investors are interested in Bitcoin because of its volatility. Bitcoin is decentralized so there is no chance for anyone to centralize it. So it is not possible to remove it from the volatile state. Many of us in crypto certainly want it to be more highly volatile but Bitcoin can be a big problem for risk averse people.

In some ways, yes, topics are somewhat redundant and the content too. Somehow it is the same with the others because it's like a clickbait because the OP is also answering its question after you open the thread. Also, it feels like it the construction of the OP's sentence is looking too good to be true, or is it just me? ???

But to answer the OP's question, a little volatility surely helps and I believe it is there for a reason besides, I think it's almost impossible to actually stop it.

There are also coins who are centralized but their value is still volatile and then there's also stable coins who are decentralized, so no it has nothing to do with it. Despite BTC being volatile, there are still times where its value can become stable like on what we experience lately where the price seem to be stuck in 23k USD.

BTC being volatile is still a good thing and yes this is one of the thing which makes it popular. Another would be is that it is decentralized and has a limited supply. For the people who dislikes the volatility of BTC or any other crypto then they better use stables coins instead or the latest one that governments and banks created which was called CBDC.

This is a great/important topic and one I think we should all be having more often.  In my opinion one of the biggest things that we need in order to help bring more stability to bitcoin is....actually using it!  I'm fully convinced that bitcoin actually being used as a means of payment, is what's going to shoot it "to the moon".  There's still too many skeptics who point out it's lack of real world use for every day items and by starting to use it more often would be a huge boost to it's acceptance and therefore help volatility.

The OP seems to ask how to end volatility. But like I have said before, volatility is good if you are a trader but if you are a long-term holder forget the noise of volatility in the short-term and keep HODLING right?? at the end of the day bitcoin still prove itself with the ATH every 4 year :D

don't like volatility just use stablecoin  :D

I am curious if Bitcoin is still volatile if we already have a lot of volume in the future. Before we reach a lot of volumes, I am imagining we are already x5 or more than the price of Bitcoin or the entire market cap is already multiplied. Does this guarantee that the volatility of Bitcoin will reduce?

Why would we want to get rid of volatility in an artificial way.  :P
Volatility is one of the reasons so many traders are into this market and willing to provide huge liquidity through exchanges, of course in the hope of getting a quick buck, in exchange, besides, if I remember correctly satoshi was okey for Bitcoin to have a floating exchange rate and to this day volatility has not represented a problem for our ecosystem.

For those who need stable coins, there some in the market which do not seem to be in the brink of collapse anytime soon.

First, I'm afraid we cannot just easily make volatility end. Many are saying the price of Bitcoin is manipulated. It may be to a certain extent, but nobody could just like pump and dump Bitcoin. It is almost a $0.5 trillion asset and it has tens of billions of daily volume. You can't easily remove volatility from it. It should also imply you also need to manipulate the news and the sentiment around it.

Second, I think as Bitcoin grows older, adoption widens, more people own Bitcoin, circulating supply more scattered, its use as a currency grows, and so on, volatility would somehow wind down. At this point, Bitcoin is very young, supply is heavily focused to a few individuals and institutions, only a tiny percentage of the world's population owns it, and so on. Volatility is expectedly high.

bitcoin is not a 'almost $0.5trill asset'

at best this week is a ~$23k asset. but even that does not mean it needs 23k to trade..
people trade 0.02 amounts(sub $500). so it only needs (sub 500) per order average per trade to keep the price near the $23k this week. and by doing arbitrage loops can do it with the same $360 allotment over and over and over hundreds of times to churn/eat/buzzthrough the opposing orders trying to freemarket away from $23k

the 0.5t is just a meaningless multiplier number of math after effect. not a value/reserve amount protecting bitcoin. the market cap is a end result of high school math. not a source reason of value security

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with that aid the manipulators can keep prices within regions for 1-8 weeks but even they get bored and want to move the market or run out of small side holdings to keep up the resistance walls

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anyway as alrady mentioned in other posts. peole dont care about volatility, becasue we have got used to it so much we dont see it. it usually requires media to high light it to death until people se it again

take food prices
same batch of goods are $188 in new hamshire and $555 in hawaii
so there is a 3x disparagement of value sentiment across just america about how much people value bread, lettuce potato etc
https://www.move.org/the-average-cost-of-food-in-the-us/#Methodology

Yeah, I don't see volatility as a problem too. But many people are trying to make BTC a payment method, but it can't be done globally with that volatility. But I don't think that's even needed.

when bitcoin was 2 years old(2011) swinging by 100x in a few months ($0.30 to $30) was a big deal
we have not seen a 100x swing since

when bitcoin was 4 years old(2013) swinging by 85x in a year (jan $14 to dec $1.2k) was a big deal
we have not seen a 85x swing since

when bitcoin was 8 years old(2017) swinging by 20x in a year (jan $1k to dec $20k) was a big deal
we have not seen a 20x swing since

when bitcoin was 12 years old(2021) swinging by 3x in a year (jan $25k to nov $70k) was a big deal
we may see a 3-7x swing again

the swings are not getting wider. things are calming down

Bitcoin went from 3k in 2020 to 70k a year later no ? But ok indeed it's slowly getting less and less volatile

well i was using calender year not YTD

so lets use YTD
jul 2010-2011 0.09 to $30 = 333x
nov 2012-2013 11 to 1.2k = 110x
dec 2016-2017 950-20k = 21x
mar 2020-2021 4.8k-61k=13x
apr 2020-2021 6.8k-63k=9x
oct 2020-2021 10k=70k = 7x

I'm not really getting the point of those last 3 lines. You should consistently follow the full bull run and not in parts (if that's always clear off course) From March 2020 to 2021 it also comes close to *20

But indeed it's decreased exponentially compared to the early years

i am not the one that wants to be picky about numbers by looking for specific things by changing parameters until it fits a narrative, which keeps going against you so you wanna change parameters

you mentioned dates of ATH points and to go by previous YTD of such points(yes 3 happened in 2021). so i did. you dont seem happy about results so now you wanna move the goal posts again??

whats next.. go by halving cycle to then find a new plot point
or to go by bear or bull of the ultimate low and high per period(as just mentioned)..
ok lets go do that

first price discovery 0.03 first ath $30 = 1000x
next ATL 3 next ATH 1.2k = 400x
next ATL 325 next ATH 20k = 61x
next ATL 3100 next ATH 70k = 22x

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any ways.. my initial point is the bitcoin system is itself shortening the trade window multiplier naturally. (as shown by many numbers listed in last few posts)

we also have the whales since mid 2022 artificially thinning the spot market varience by controlling the spot price movements so they can win their futures market s bets(only releasing their resistance walls when their futures contracts expire)

however if we next were to be foolish and beg some regulator or the exchanges to implement "circuit breaks" where trading is temporarily halted if prices move by more then x%. we are then going against the practical and natural economics of bitcoins deflationary path, and trying to over manipulate it

here is my point again.
fiat is not stable!!
just walking a few streets down the road you can find the same products at different price ranges.
come back different weeks and the prices of goods are different again.
we have just got soo used to it with slogans like "discount" and "sales season" "inflation" that we dont see it as volatile we see it as opportunity

yet some want to manipulate the markets and remove its natural fluidity just to fit in some "stable" box of one countries desire, even if it can then be against another countries benefit.. um no thanks

WORLD value:premium is $15k-90k(ish(rounded))

and american home hobby miners average residential electric costs, thus break even is about $30k
i fully understand american miners hate it when the price was $17k-$24k (prev 6 month) as it meant they cant mine profitably
i fully understand american buyers hate it when the price was $35k-$70k (2021-early 2022 era) as it meant they cant buy it cheap

yes i get it they would love it if bitcoin stayed around $25k-$35k permanently so part of the year they can mine when premium and sell.. and buy when low

but for a world currency. the window is wide.. due to how the politics of forex, that want to have different countries fiat rates to be wide apart so they can then buy cheap imports from 3rd world countries and such.

yes if people in africa got paid min wage at same rate as americans the window would closer.. the same goes if electric was sold at the same rate world wide the window would closer

but its not. so we have to accept how things are

I really don't care to be honest. I was not even discussing against.

I just like things to be consistent and this is indeed consistent :)

Its possible theoretically but no one will able to control the vitality because of decentralized nature of crypto field and in coming future the market have chances of stabilize because many users believes in crypto and Bitcoin they holds harder ,
So in coming future crypto is gonna solve many financial problems and the value of Bitcoin will go higher then we expect.

Like any product in the market, Bitcoin is a commodity whose price is controlled by supply and demand, which in turn is affected by market fluctuations in general.  
And as we notice in the rest of the market's products, the relatively stable price is the result of widespread use.
The major currencies that seem to us the most stable, their price also fluctuates, but to a much lesser extent. This, of course, is due to the balance between supply and demand, which is mainly caused by the intensity of use

Dump this shit down to zero like cardano and problem solved  ::)

Worth as much as a bigger fool (or money printer) willing to pay for it

It is hard to end or control the volatility of Bitcoin.  Being decentralized, there is no central authority to control the market.  Even with ETF, I believe it can't control the volatility because there are other factors that can affect the price fluctuation of the Bitcoin Market.

There are lots of factors that affect the fluctuation like market sentiment, changes in regulations, and worldwide events. ETF can help reduce bitcoin volatility but ETF itself is also volatile as an underlying asset.

In the end, there are factors that can minimize or help reduce Bitcoin volatility but I believe there is no way to end it.

There is no way to end it, that is true, and it's preferable that it remains like this, as we have the assurance to be dealing with a decentralized currency.

But to minimize volatility it's just a natural process which is happening year after year. Adoption just needs to continue increasing, so volatility will decrease progressively. Volatility is directly related to the manipulation power of whales. The less power whales have, less susceptible the market is going to be to manipulation, decreasing volatility.

When the market has more participants, it's likely the sentiments will be mixed, so while some panic sell, there will be others buying the dip, keeping prices more stable, although the total balance is never achievable on this market.

Agree. It is the high price volatility in the cryptocurrency market that attracts a significant number of both traders and cryptocurrency holders. If the price volatility were at the level of other markets, the cryptocurrency would not have such demand as it is now. Therefore, it is not even worth artificially interfering in this process. True, so far we do not know which way the regulation of cryptocurrencies by the states will go.
The volatility of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies could decrease or even disappear if the cryptocurrency loses its decentralized nature. However, there is an opinion that with the increase in the adoption of cryptocurrency, its price volatility will decrease. Let's see how it will be in practice.

I agree that there is a bit more increases than calculated if you take the bottom of a year and the top of another year, which means in 2020 it was as low as 4k and it was as high as 68k in 2021, meaning it did went up quite a bit, more than 15x in fact.

However, it's still nothing major compared to what it used to be, x100 was something not so shocking back in the day, and it's near impossible right now. Which is why we should be considering this as a warning sign that we are not as volatile as we used to be. I wish we were that way we would have lower lows but it would also allow us to have higher highs as well. This would give us a chance to make a lot more profit than what we can do now.

We dont have any problems
We dont need for some regulation or rules to govern on this market
We dont need to be handled it out by the government

This is the primary reason on why decentralized projects specially Bitcoin had made due into its purpose.If you cant bare out about the risk or deal with the volatility that it gives
then it isnt really something for you because its been volatile since it first existed and come to mind off that people around are much prefering with this moving prices
since this is the way that we could really make out some money or profits.

Volatility will stay because not everyone will agree on the current price of Bitcoin, there will always be a buyer and seller and that makes Bitcoin more volatile.

Maybe, we can limit the trading hours for Bitcoin and follow the market hours of stocks which is not available during weekend, by this we can slowdown the volatility but I’m afraid that this is not possible to happen.

I really hate the way this topic's title (and its numberless previous incarnations) are phrased. Why would "we" "end" the volatility? (With the last words in caps, like a commercial brand slogan)

Currencies and commodity prices float respective to each others, it's just the way it is, you can argue that trying to impede it is contrary to bitcoin's ethos.

I understand that from an outsiders point of view BTC's high volatility may look threatening, but if someone is into bitcoins ecosystem or serious learning about it one would find pretty early that a stable price relative to fiat may not even be on the table (this one is an interesting and deeper topic)

Furthermore, the way OP phrased it gives the idea that "we" are trying to control BTCs price, putting Bitcoin's community at the same level as a "get rich quick" scheme in the eyes of the uninformed people

another example
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=8
milk
international milk prices are from $0.44-$5

thats a international "volatility" of milk speculation of 11x market window

and just like travelling from tunisia - lebanon to get milk at such a wide range of ask price (12x)

if i travelled norway-hawaii for the min max of fresh mined bitcoin there is a $15k-$90k range of ask. (6x)

so bitcoin is not as bad as people think in comparison to other international 'commodities'

more examples
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=9
bread $0.14-$3.26 (23x)

yep if bread was sold on a international market. bread would see swings that move alot more and wider than bitcoin

Although many people always say that they love bitcoin because it is decentralized and anonymous, bitcoin can help them become their own bank, all true, but what makes us all invest in bitcoin is its volatility. So I also agree that if bitcoin loses its volatility, people won't need bitcoin anymore, and the market will lose its appeal. Everything will be meaningless if bitcoin is no longer profitable.
Decentralization is not what makes bitcoin volatile, the current market volatility is just shark manipulation, IMO.

1. even if the movement window was just 0.1x (10% a year) its still better than any interest savings account fiat banks can offer

2.even 300 years after "tulip mania" people still buy and sell tulips(go check any garden centre, yep those businesses still make profit selling tulips)

3.its not volatile right now due to whales or sharks. its actually being suppressed -resisted because of whales/sharks. yep suppressed-resisted from being the wide international sentiment of speculation. but their activities only work for 1-8 week periods at a time

It depends whom you ask, I guess.
There are already merchants who accept Bitcoin regardless of its volatility, so they can hold or sell when they believe it to be convenient. Also, for those who do not want to deal with sudden price changes, there are services which allow them to accept Bitcoin as payment method and immediately cash out into FIAT, so BTC can be effectively used as a tool to transfer value.

I haven't read all of this thread, so apologies if someone else has posted this.

You can't stop volatility. The banking/globalist elite now own large blocks of Bitcoin. They want to preserve extreme volatility to discourage mass adoption by the masses, and they will use their holdings to maintain apparent instablity in Bitcoin. They want the public to use central banking coins. We who understand this are in a fortunate position. We can monitor the long term asset value, and we can exploit the volatility to increase our savings.

Volatility of Bitcoin is a gift for those who know how to manage risk. Acquiring technical skills and learning to use risk management tools can help you to take advantage of this volatility and make a potential profit. I understand that Bitcoin volatility will not last for ever and eventually decrease, as  crypto currencies market matures and its marketcap surpasses 5 Trillion dollars, then it won't be easy for whales to manipulate this market. DYOR

In my country there are already merchants that accepts Bitcoin but thru an app registered here in our country where merchants can convert it easily and the value of the buyers payment will depend on the item price at the time of payment. Many uses it now and sees that somehow in the future it will matter. Sellers have option whether to accept it or not and it's good if sellers also intro trading as they have chance to make it grow or know when it will be needed to convert or just wait. In terms of volatility,this what makes Bitcoin gain popularity and supporters as those who can trade and wait in the right time will be able to get more profit on it.

Volatility in a currency is never "a gift". If you say that it will show that you are simply in bitcoin for some small term gains in fiat money. Bitcoin should be used as a secondary monetary system and not for using volatility as a profit solution.

Regulation I guess would lessen the volatility in the market price of Bitcoin because demand won't be that high. Demand in the first place is dependent with the majority. On the other hand, what makes the demand high is the advantages of this technology; anonymity, low transaction fees and such. These things would definitely change once regularion occur. BUT another question would arise, how will this technology or industry in general be regulated? Probably combination of prohibition of decentralized wallets nd pushing third party wallets usage. Last question in my mind is that, will this be still  getting high demand once regulation takes place?

Bitcoin don't need any rules to govern it's market, because this coin has always been the same from day one, and don' intend changing anytime soon. Because it is this volatility that makes Bitcoin unique from any other digital currency controlled by central banks and the government. So if you are not okay with it's volatility, it's best you invest in stable coins such as USDT or BUSD which are pegged to the United State dollar.

We can't really end the volatility of Bitcoin because there are many rich people who hold in it that's why if they sold their Bitcoin, there's a huge move in the market. It also manipulated by the banks or institution to gain profit and they're called as whales. However, Bitcoin has the least volatility than any other cryptocurrency in the market because of it's market capitalization.

What does the government want to do with the volatility of Bitcoin? Do they have any plans of adoption it and in order to control it? The volatile market will not ease to move because of any government law policy to make the market lost it volatility. As much as all altcoins depends on Bitcoin, that is how things will be and we will keep experiencimg this.
The volatile market makes it unique and profitable with plenty of strategies for everyone to be prepared and ready to fear there fears because the market can suddenly increases at the small interval and also falls at the sharpest time. We are already getting used to it and it positivity could make us very rich.

I assume that you mean those merchants use an exchange account to accept payments in bitcoin and then they swap it into some stablecoin?
Because, that would be nothing new.

However, if you meant that there is an state-sponsored app for those transactions, then it would be a big deal. Still, the best case scenario would be accept Bitcoin from a non-custodial wallet to another non-custodial one.

You can't actually, as because of the price volatility many user gain and many losses, and the price of Bitcoin can be dumped to $1 or it can either reach $100k, so in the next few years there is no Tech/Process that can maintain/stop the volatility of any Crypto Coin.

Same as that some third party platforms were doing the same. Service providers like bitpay were receiving in terms of bitcoin and the same will be send to the merchants account equivalent to USD according to the requirement of the merchant.

In El Salvador there is some application developed by the government itself to support transactions in cryptocurrency. This kind of development from different countries will surely have control over the system. Doesn't that affect the real purpose of bitcoin?

Is something wrong about the volatility of not only Bitcoin but crypto in general?
I mean if volatility is very bad for you then it's very good for others especially traders.

Volatility = profit. The more volatile it is, the more money you can generate with it and vice versa. Why are people asking questions like this? This is why cryptocurrency is a very exciting investment. It's volatility makes people rich, but on the other hand, it also makes people poor. To answer your question, I don't see any way of us ending the volatility of Bitcoin and other cryptos because we just can't. Even the stock market is volatile but lesser than crypto and even so, no one is talking about it.

Reading through ops I discovered that there is a lot of misconception on the subject of volatility and to make one point very clear, volatility is a key feature of the forest market.
and trying to eliminate it artificially will end market demand we're as a global market statistic and inflation coupled with demand ratio in various location is what makes up for the volatility since there is no global price control on the asset it price will remain volatile for as long as forest market is a concern.
Because the purchasing power of bitcoin in the united state wouldn't be the same rate in japan or Russia so at that the buyer and seller will fix their price to suit the local market demand, there is nothing the government can do about it and we should not look for price stability because Bitcoin is not created for that since bitcoin is an edge over inflation, its price volatility is the engine room for bitcoin demand since bitcoin is a speculative asset.

Volatility is a key characteristic of Bitcoin. and this is seen from the demand and sales in the market.
volatility can't be ended permanently but it can be paused temporarily if no one else is trading, that's not going to happen either I don't think

I prefer volatility in crypto because it means we can profit by buying low and selling high. We will have an even greater advantage if we repeat it several times. And that's why volatility will still exist in the market because volatility can make many people enter the market. They are interested in being able to profit, like other crypto users. But if there is no more interest from all crypto users, the price will not move and tends to stay in place without moving up or down.

Are you sure that we really need to end volatility of BTC? A lot of people are here only due to it. Hopes of easy money, you know

I guess OP you have to accept the reality that this is how Bitcoin works and it become popular for such sentiment. Whether you like it or not, you can never change it no matter what we do and even the government can't make it.

Well, people love to see it on that level forever as this could give us a bigger chance to earn more. In fact, this gives interest to the community and even known businessmen got curious about how this works but being a decentralized project makes things even more possible like doubling your money or even more which also encourage them to invest as well.

True that lol.
One of the reason why Bitcoin became popular is because of the greedy people. They've heard how volatile Bitcoin is, and they engaged into it immediately. However, not everyone is blessed enough to understand how Bitcoin works.
But, to lessen Bitcoin's volatility, we need every fraction of Bitcoin to be mined, and that will happen after everyone of us in this forum dies lol.

I mean volatility is a gift for those professional traders & regularly trade Bitcoin for profit, not for  HOLDers, who have a long-term perspective and a clear investment strategy when investing in Bitcoin, and  firmly believe that Bitcoin, as a decentralized digital currency, has the potential to serve as a secondary monetary system and a store of value.

 Bitcoin is an asset and people will always treat it like an asset so it won't be stable anytime soon.

If he could research more about volatility, he would be able to find that bitcoin provides an opportunity for him to buy low and sell high. It has been felt by many people who are serious about trading and can really get profits repeatedly. But there is a condition so that he can get that advantage, he must be able to analyze when he can enter the market and place an order. If he weren't willing to study, he wouldn't be able to gain those advantages. And even though he can't learn about bitcoin price analysis, he can use another option: investing in bitcoin to collect lots of bitcoin, which he can sell at high prices. It was equivalent to gaining an advantage in the future, depending on which one he would choose.

There is another point of view, which is that with an increase in the demand for cryptocurrency and bitcoin in particular, as well as with an increase in their liquidity, the price volatility of the cryptocurrency will fall. Moreover, this is the opinion of a significant part of the cryptocurrency market participants. But it seems to me that the great volatility of the cryptocurrency will not disappear under any circumstances. The regulation of this market cannot be so deep as to affect the nature of a decentralized cryptocurrency.

When bitcoin stops being volatile, it will practically turn into stabelcoin. but then there will be a question of whether people will stay interested in it. After all, volatility allows you to earn, volatility attracts attention. So the lack of volatility is bad for bitcoin, but probably good for altcoins.

And we dont need nor like that because it is one of the most important thing on why lots of people been jumping on this one because of the money making opportunity which is through these movements

and if it do ends up on being a stable coin then for sure the interest would really flock away and would find for another place for them to play with the movement of price on which we do make money out of it.
This is why you shouldnt really expect for these things to happen because it wont really happen in the first place.This is why if you are really that tending to deal with stable then stablecoins would be the key.
This is why its up to your own choice because Bitcoin or most of crypto coins in the market which is volatile.

Volatility is the big attraction, particularly the large scale fluctuation increase the risk of winning big as well as losing. People fear about the volatility for some reason, but it is the feature that supports making good money. As mentioned the lack of volatility will surely be unliked by the common people who make something out of the market fluctuation.

It seems that bitcoin fluctuations will always be high because of the large number of speculators, many people think that bitcoin fluctuations are controlled by several people, but if we look at the facts of transactions, we will say that everything happens because of market conditions or real transactions, a market cap of more than $ 520 billion, of course, requires large funds to make bitcoin price controllable.

Upon seeing the subject, I was curious as to what the writer will conclude. No individual has the right to reduce or even affect the volatility of bitcoin as we all know probably government involvement will do the trick though.

Large players like the whales and the governments have way more influence than us on the markets, but they are not omnipotent, besides the OP seems to think the volatility of bitcoin is some kind of flaw when in fact it is an incredible feature.

In what other market you could earn 40% of your capital in just a few weeks by just being invested in the most dominant asset of that market? I am not an expert on other assets but I guess this only happens in this market, and no matter how much I think about it to me this seems like a good thing.

About Bitcoin Volatility if I notice it is heavily influenced by several factors such as market sentiment, adoption rate, regulatory changes and technological advances. The absence of regulation in the cryptocurrency market has contributed to the high level of volatility and potential associated with Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

The introduction of regulatory frameworks and greater adoption of Bitcoin in day-to-day transactions could help stabilize markets and reduce volatility. However, it should be noted that regulation alone may not be enough to completely eliminate volatility in the cryptocurrency market.

The participation of ETF Funds and other investment institutions contributes to market stability by increasing liquidity and introducing more market participants, but it is important to remember that all forms of investment have inherent risks and past performance is not a guarantee of future results.

the thing that makes bitcoin interesting is high volatility, if bitcoin is stagnant or like forex it is difficult for speculators to get profit, I have tried trading on forex and the result is very small price fluctuations, if we trade $ 1000 then for $ 100 profit is very difficult, but if in bitcoin with $ 1000 it is easy to get 10% profit or easy to lose.

Unfortunately I don't think there is an easy way to end the volatility of bitcoin anytime soon. The ETF industry is one way to reduce the demand on owning bitcoins yourself, you can participate on the increase in bitcoins price without directly owning coins yourself. The problem is of course is going to trust the financial industry to buy synthetic bitcoins instead of real ones. For the average investor the motivation to invest in bitcoin comes at the distrust of the financial industry. When buying ETFs now we put our trust in a company and not in bitcoins itself. That is why I would expect many smaller investors to buy the coins themselves rather than any financial product on it.  Also there are quite a few ETFs that need to buy the underlying bitcoins for storage, so it makes no difference for the investors to buy the coins directly or buy the ETF. To a certrain extent the volatility is part of the game as it is in the stock market.

If ithen the price of bitcoin will be affected too much and it will be easier to move around bitcoin and vice versa but it will have some form of regulation and it has to be regulated because bitcoin is still in progress. 
 
Therefore you need to learn more about what regulation is and what it's doing before you decide what to do with that.

Time and wider usage are the things that are most likely to bring stability to the price of Bitcoin. The more people who are using it for regular transactions, the more of it that is likely to keep flowing around in the network. This keeps the people running nodes happy, so fees stay stable and could potentially reduce. However it is a sort of hybrid commodity at the moment because it acts in some ways like gold, where people just want to buy and hold it for long periods, whereas it might be better for volatility if more of the currency kept flowing around in a functional capacity. Time will also assist because more people become more comfortable that it's a safe asset over the long run.

In my opinion, ending the volatility of Bitcoin or generally the market is out of our control due to we don’t own large amounts of Bitcoin unlike whales. In fact, centralized exchanges may have the ability to reduce this instability since the majority of traders are using them but that might ruin their reputation , it means it is too risky for them to make this action and remember that decentralized exchanges are progressing strongly and solidly. In addition to that, we just have to deal with this repetitive volatility by making effective decisions and avoiding the manipulation of whales.

The volatility of bitcoin depends on the supply and demand, market sentiment and regulatory changes. I think it is not possible to completely control or eliminate the volatility because we do not have control over it. Maybe there are ways to reduce the volatility like increasing market liquidity, improving the market regulation and increasing adoption and stability of crypto currencies. Investors can manage their own risk by diversifying their portfolio and not investing more than they can afford to loose. The more people use and trade bitcion its price will become more stable.

Yes that's right friends, Well, you know what they say - Rome wasn't built in a day, nor will the volatility of bitcoin be resolved in a day. Meaning this requires more people to use bitcoin for day-to-day transactions, and some regulation to maintain stability. Cryptocurrencies are like one rollercoaster ride that never seems to end. Maybe we just need to hold on tight and enjoy the ride while we can.

However, it is important to remember that cryptocurrencies are inherently volatile due to their reliance on supply and demand and while ETF funds can help reduce volatility that ultimately requires greater market control through establishing clear rules and laws to reduce bitcoin volatility and other crypto currency.

The high price volatility of bitcoin and other decentralized cryptocurrencies is inherent in the very nature of cryptocurrencies and cannot be changed by anyone. In addition, most participants in this market do not want such a change themselves, since high volatility provides an opportunity to earn on this. Therefore, even if such an opportunity appears, many will be against its implementation.

For those who see bitcoin as a currency, bitcoin's erratic volatility is a real annoyance and a major barrier to bitcoin becoming a currency. But for speculators, volatility is a very useful thing, the more volatile bitcoin, the more excited they become.

As far as I can see, up to 99% of people in the market are investors, there won't be too many bitcoin supporters to become stable. And I also really doubt, will many people continue to stay with bitcoin if it becomes stable? People come to bitcoin for money rather than to support a new technology or seek privacy...profit is always their primary concern. So I highly doubt when bitcoin become stable.

In other views, volatility is a charm that is quite attractive to trading bitcoin, the average trader sees the perfect bitcoin side of its volatility to take advantage.
And indeed basically stopping bitcoin volatility is very unlikely because of supply and demand, which makes volatility itself, and that with an open market and no one can control it.

Even if a person has a 90% owner of the total bitcoin circulating, more or less fluctuations will exist even though it is relatively small, so in my opinion it is impossible to eliminate price fluctuations.

I don't think any of us can get rid of Bitcoin's volatility in the market? because no one has done that yet, that's why it led to this value that Bitcoin has in the market today because of the volatility that it has. Maybe Bitcoin's volatility will disappear only when Bitcoin becomes regulated.

That's why it's impossible for this to happen, because any government has wanted it for a long time but everyone who tried to try it didn't succeed either, so instead of opposing it, they just accepted it and used it as an instrument to help their economy if so win win situation.

The problem is that we can't get rid of volatility by our wish alone. Cryptocurrency volatility is caused by many factors, such as:
1. The problems of regulating the crypto market
2. The problem of recognition of cryptocurrencies (and bitcoin) as a full-fledged financial market participant
3. The global impact of speculative processes on the crypto market
The Crypto-currency's lack of real value, aside from speculation and manipulation.

Until at least these 4 points are resolved positively for cryptocurrency - volatility will remain

Bitcoin ETF is already already here, the price of Bitcoin has already shown some positive move over the news. But I don't think that's enough for Bitcoin volatility to be controlled. Volatility is one thing that makes Bitcoin what it is today, you saying Bitcoin volatility should be stopped means you are trying to make Bitcoin a stable coin. Which can't be possible because even the said stable coins out their are not that stable, they still lose value. Bitcoin volatile can only end if it's ever possible for Bitcoin to be controlled which is not possible.

Bitcoin's volatility is a good thing, and that makes it attractive, but I don't understand why so many people want it to be stable? If bitcoin becomes as stable as gold, then I think more people will leave it and look for more volatile investments, let alone it will become as stable as currency. There won't be too many people loyal to bitcoin once it stabilizes.

Honestly, I never expected bitcoin to be stable, I like it to be volatile because it's profitable. If someone doesn't like volatility, they can look to other assets instead of expecting bitcoin to become stable.

What you say could help the volatility of bitcoin will decrease somewhat. But does reducing its volatility benefit us? I mean, we invest for profit, and if things are less volatile or stable, how do we make a profit? We invest in bitcoin not because it is decentralized or provides privacy but mainly to provide a higher return than any other investment. If volatility is contained, will we continue to invest in bitcoin? Will you still hold bitcoin for the long term?

That should be the reason why we are using it, it's an asset and was always an asset and for some reason people think that dollar value of it should matter. If you really want to use it, you have to accept it as the value of it, the dollar you hold loses value the more you hold it as well but people still hold it for some reason, why? Those people need to realize that you need to invest into bitcoin and just forget about it, that should be the case in most situations.

If you want to use it as a currency, use it as if you are buying and selling at the same time, if you only receive, then turn around and spend fiat, that might be amazing at bull period but terrible at bear period and that's why it's a huge risk, don't do that, use it for both.

You already answered your own question, probably, volatility happens depending on the average percentage of buyers and sellers. And it will only stop if both buyers and sellers stop in doing trade in this field of crypto space. Meaning, as long as you see the motion in trading is not stopping the volatility will continue to move just like the time clock never stop.

 ;D ;D ;D, That's exactly what @NotATether said. Stopping Bitcoin Volatility is like trying to avoid traffic on the highway during rush hour. Now, regarding the OP's question, I think that returning to its basic nature, the nature of the market, of course, is demand and supply, and what is certain is that adoption has expanded and increased use in direct daily transactions. I would argue this is seen as being able to stabilize Bitcoin Volatility and the value of Bitcoin. The catch is It's a process and it takes a lot of time for people to appreciate and believe in it.

Even if every face of the earth is full of Bitcoin investors, volatility will always take place, and there is no amount of support and news can make Bitcoin more stable, the price action of Bitcoin is not about the adoption, if not, bitcoin wouldn't have grow from 100s to 1000s in the past,  and that time the adoption rate was at it's lowest.

You need to understand the market situations and long-term chart play, it's inevitable, and that's just perfect for Bitcoin, if you are seeing the disadvantages of Bitcoin as complete disadvantages then you understand nothing about it, every disappointment is a blessing like my people use to say, and every bitcoin disadvantages has its advantages. You are the one that has limited understanding.

Well said, mate. All the advantages and disadvantages of Bitcoin are in the volatilities of Bitcoin. In my personal opinion I think that the main power of bitcoin included on the volatilities of bitcoin. So there will be no questions about the ending of bitcoin. I will say that when the volatilities will be end of bitcoin there will be also ending of the power of bitcoin. So I will also saying with you that even all the people of world adopt of bitcoin the volatilities will be never end

Yes to everything you said, if Bitcoin stopped been volatility it'll lose what make it interesting and captivating to investors. High risk bring high rewards and that's what comes from the volatility of Bitcoin price and that's why it is interesting to many individuals, they have high expectations of profiting that's why the buy Bitcoin. Bitcoin can't stopped been volatile but the volatility can reduced in the future when Bitcoin gets more popular.

If Bitcoin volatility stops completely, the number of users on the blockchain will reduced as only those that joined for the purpose of using Bitcoin as a currency for its unique characteristics will be left while other individual that joined for other price related purpose like trading will leave.