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Title: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: uneng on January 27, 2023, 07:44:50 PM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Oshosondy on January 27, 2023, 07:56:05 PM
She won some times but the net profit is a loss, It was said that she even gambled daily, it would be a loss for everyday gambler while gambling with people's money that can bring poor mindset towards gambling, resulting to losses. She did not think of the consequences if she lost part or all the money. That is not a small amount of money at all and I see this as an act of indiscipline. People can still be thinking to gamble with their own money or parents money in a way that nothing like jail term or prison will be involved, unlike using public money for it. I am not saying it is good to gamble with parent's money, all are bad and only little amount should be used on gambling. Gambling should be for working class people and the working class should spend less than 5% of his or her income on gambling.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Zlantann on January 27, 2023, 08:05:38 PM
She won some times but the net profit is a loss, It was said that she even gambled daily, that would be a loss for everyday gambler with people's money. She did not think if the consequences if she lost part or all the money. That is not a small amount of money at all and I see this as an act of indiscipline. People can still be think to gamble with their own money or parents money in a way that nothing like jail or prison will be involved, unlike public money. I am not saying it is good to gamble with parent money, all are bad and only little amount should be used on gambling. Gambling should be for working class and the working class should spend less than 5% of his income on gambling.

I think this is a clear case of gambling addiction. Any gambler that goes to the extent of using another people's funds at his/her disposal to gamble needs help because such person has lost control of his gambling behavior. Gambling addicts just like other forms of addiction don't consider the consequences of thier actions because they are just concerned about satisfying a burning and uncontrollable desire in them. She would have to pay back her debt an sent to a gambling rehabs for the treatment his addiction.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: acroman08 on January 27, 2023, 08:08:48 PM
gambling addiction really does fuck you up and the people around you. I feel bad for the other student who fell victim because of her gambling addiction. I get that addiction makes you do things that you won't usually do but it doesn't excuse what she did, I hope she gets a proper punishment for what she did.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 27, 2023, 08:09:50 PM
If she's old enough which I believe she is, then nothing should stop her from going to jail, she's a criminal and should be treated as one, if it was her money or maybe her school fees she's lost through gambling, then I believe this wouldn't be a case at all, but gambling with public funds is way too extreme and one that must not be swept under the carpet, she should be made to serve as an example to those who might want to try the same thing in the future and hope to get away with it.
200,000 dollars is no small amount of money, and I can't imagine how many of the parents who went through hell to make sure they get this money to pay for their ward, this is an act that shouldnt be encouraged In our society.
I really feel sorry for the school and the students, this would probably be the worst graduation ceremony that school will have in their record, I hope they get through it..


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Lucasgabd on January 27, 2023, 08:17:05 PM
oh lord
people definitely don't care where they put their money.

surprised by the fact this happening in USP too
it's the hardest college in Brazil to go in

not sure if all are aware but Brazil has public and private colleges
public ones are free of charge, all paid with taxes but with no fees at all for students.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Frankolala on January 27, 2023, 09:03:46 PM
This is one of the problem of gambling addiction, it gives you false hope that you will win back your lost and before you know it you have lost everything. It is a very bad to gamble with people's funds entrusted to you,this means that you are heartless because gambling will definitely make you lose the money, it is better you invest the money into a business that can generate daily or weekly income.

The Lady should be ashamed of herself to do such thing and should face the consequences, so that next time she wouldn't just throw away people's funds just like that without reasoning. Graduating students money is what she used,gambling has eaten up her bones.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Johnyz on January 27, 2023, 09:12:03 PM
Didn’t know lottery can also be addicting when it fact you can place a bet on a minimal amount, wondering if she really cheated on that lottery system or she is just lucky to win 5 times and unfortunately lose everything again. Well, this is still gambling and probably she is with someone doing this thing. Using others money for your gambling activities is not good at all, avoid this at all cost and stay responsible.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: DoublerHunter on January 27, 2023, 09:15:32 PM
gambling addiction really does fuck you up and the people around you. I feel bad for the other student who fell victim because of her gambling addiction. I get that addiction makes you do things that you won't usually do but it doesn't excuse what she did, I hope she gets a proper punishment for what she did.
^Probably she is hoping to hit the grand jackpot prize of the lottery but it won't happen.
The chances of winning the lottery are very thin and if you continue buying a ticket every day, it could be a big cost for you, that is why people should gamble an amount that they can afford to lose which is when made mistakes.
Poor girl, how come she becomes that kind of addiction? Though she gets proper punishment, but we hope that her study will not stop, it could be more ruin her life more when it comes to that point.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: jossiel on January 27, 2023, 09:21:01 PM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)
When it's come to gambling, no one can really skip the addiction if he/she isn't aware of what can happen to themselves. If addiction strikes, for sure that the person that's been striken by it will definitely do anything to keep his/her gambling needs.

I saw news and situations like a treasurer gambled with the company's fund and it wasn't caught until the company sees the sudden reduction of their funds and it's no longer tallied.

On this student, it's sad that she embezzled the money and she did while she's at that shoe of studying because it's alarming on how much more she can do when she gets older.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Wakate on January 27, 2023, 09:21:22 PM
Gambling is a big addiction and we should always be careful about how the urge of betting could jeopardize our entire life if we are not that very careful. Gambling is not that bad but when it is excess then is could pose a danger to us that would never be easy to abolish.
The major problem here is that she was robbed of her money that was intended for something else. Many things are happening and I can't believe she used that kind of huge fund to gambler and lose it. Let's discipline ourselves so that we would not be a victim of this at anytime.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Fortify on January 27, 2023, 09:28:14 PM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

As others have said, the fact that she won was pretty much irrelevant because she did not win enough to cover the initial amount she stole. I'm guessing she spent vast chunks of the money she stole on these lotteries so was definitely not getting value for money. It's a very sad story when the person involved is relatively young and probably did not understand the consequences of what they were doing, however they should face the criminal consequences or there is no point in having laws. You have to wonder if she was just being extra greedy or had other financial pressures when she wanted to stay in the medical field which must have sky high costs to fund higher education.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Casdinyard on January 27, 2023, 09:46:17 PM
A case of gambling addiction. She probably could've gotten away with just stealing the money but she has ulterior motives, which had led her to stealing it in the first place. She had so many opportunities to stop, considering that even after gambling she won 5 times albeit with a profit loss, but at some point in that gambling spree she must've had a net profit, but no, she kept going. I am really hoping that apart from incarceration she should be getting, they also give her mental help and intervention because when all of this is said and done she may go back to her old ways.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: goaldigger on January 27, 2023, 09:53:15 PM
Imagine a student being exposed into gambling, I don’t know her exact age but the lottery should assess that girl first before allowing here to place a bet, this is very unfortunate to ruin her own reputation and her future. The authority and her parents should help her recover from this trauma and addiction. Gambling is not good at all if its already too much and if the money you are using is not yours, this could be a big lesson to everyone.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: DaNNy001 on January 27, 2023, 10:04:44 PM
The Lady should be ashamed of herself to do such thing and should face the consequences, so that next time she wouldn't just throw away people's funds just like that without reasoning. Graduating students money is what she used,gambling has eaten up her bones.
That's the funny thing about an addiction, you never actually know what you are getting yourself into until the deed has already been done and there is no way out before you later realized you have made a very big mistake. But it actually never stops there for some individuals because when the whole mess is cleared up, some still go as far creating another mess again all in the name of being an addict. I can remember when i was faced with such gambling addiction too, it was the period of my life i wouldn't like to be remembering because i was deep into and it almost made me useless in life but i thank God i came out this act. And the only way to come out of this act is actually in the will power of the individual, you have to discipline yourself thoroughly and have a strict principle you will never go against, setting your gambling limit according to the funds you have only then can you be free. As for the lady i think should be forced to pay off the money then after that a detention in prison might serve her well.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Baofeng on January 27, 2023, 10:12:06 PM
So another case of gamblers going bad? that is a huge amount of money to gamble and it's not her money to begin with. Yeah she won but still she is has debt to settle here from the graduation comission's funds. Not sure how she was able to hold that kind of money, nevertheless it's obvious that she got the trust and then ruin it.

Just like the other thread we saw here, it's gambling addiction as it's finest. Hard to control even, women are going to fall for it even if they are not that careful and easily be tempted because of that big money in front of them. Hopefully, gamblers here should learn a thing or two if ever they are face with this situation.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: uneng on January 27, 2023, 10:14:47 PM
Didn’t know lottery can also be addicting when it fact you can place a bet on a minimal amount, wondering if she really cheated on that lottery system or she is just lucky to win 5 times and unfortunately lose everything again. Well, this is still gambling and probably she is with someone doing this thing. Using others money for your gambling activities is not good at all, avoid this at all cost and stay responsible.
She placed expensive bets, because she was trying to maximize the odds at her favour per ticket. The game she played is named Lotofácil (easy lotto).

It's possible to bet between 15 and 20 numbers per ticket (the more numbers you pick, the more expensive it's going to be the ticket). Most expensive ticket, containing 20 numbers, costs about 7750$.

If you match 11 numbers per ticket, you already guarantee a 1$ prize. 12 numbers give 2$, 13 numbers give 5$ and then for 14 and 15 numbers matched the prize isn't fixed, but its average is 272$ per 14 numbers matched and 160.000$ per 15 numbers matched (jackpot).

There are many sites on the internet teaching how to win on this lottery, as if it were possible to make it in a safe way. I guess the student must have had access to such websites and thought she could make it work. :P



Winning chance playing with 20 numbers (7750$ ticket):

11 numbers matched: 1 chance in 2,6 (prize 1$)
12 numbers matched: 1 chance in 3,9 (prize 2$)
13 numbers matched: 1 chance in 4,2 (prize 5$)
14 numbers matched: 1 chance in 17 (prize 272$)
15 numbers matched: 1 chance in 211 (prize 160.000$)



Imagine a student being exposed into gambling, I don’t know her exact age but the lottery should assess that girl first before allowing here to place a bet, this is very unfortunate to ruin her own reputation and her future. The authority and her parents should help her recover from this trauma and addiction. Gambling is not good at all if its already too much and if the money you are using is not yours, this could be a big lesson to everyone.
25 years old woman.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Hydrogen on January 27, 2023, 10:15:47 PM
This might sound crazy and irregular. But is very common in investment and finance.

The plot of Rocky 5 (1990) is one where Paulie grants Rocky's financial advisor power of attorney. Which the advisor uses to gamble with Rocky's wealth and loses. Rocky is broke as a result. This is much more common than most realize. It was common 30 years ago when Rocky 5 was produced. We have popular stories about famous financial families engaging in similar practices hundreds of years ago.

Trust can be abused. Which could necessitate the development of trust less formats in BTC and other technologies.

That said, who embezzles funds to invest in a lottery? There are so many better and smarter investment opportunities out there. $200,000 in funds isn't enough to rig a lotto. They could have googled it, learned the basic statistics and saved themselves a lot of trouble.

If you could rig a lottery with 1 million dollars? Why don't millionaires simply invest their funds in lotteries rather than stocks? Even with more than $1 million in funds investing in the lotto is a losing proposition.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: capedbaldy on January 27, 2023, 10:38:07 PM
As others have said, the fact that she won was pretty much irrelevant because she did not win enough to cover the initial amount she stole. I'm guessing she spent vast chunks of the money she stole on these lotteries so was definitely not getting value for money. It's a very sad story when the person involved is relatively young and probably did not understand the consequences of what they were doing, however they should face the criminal consequences or there is no point in having laws. You have to wonder if she was just being extra greedy or had other financial pressures when she wanted to stay in the medical field which must have sky high costs to fund higher education.
He might face charges for money laundering because of the abuse of the trust placed in him, she was very greedy to use all those funds for betting and luckily she didn't suffer too high losses, even though he could recover the losses but a court seat would be waiting for him. His gambling addiction was so bad that she was unable to limit the funds used in gambling and there was no risk consideration if she had spent those funds.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Gozie51 on January 27, 2023, 10:43:11 PM
This is a risk that doesn't really sound nice. The effect of being an addict is what we see with this. To play gambling game, you need your personal money for it and not public money but what she has done is high risk that can get her into trouble.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: samcrypto on January 27, 2023, 10:53:03 PM
This is a risk that doesn't really sound nice. The effect of being an addict is what we see with this. To play gambling game, you need your personal money for it and not public money but what she has done is high risk that can get her into trouble.
She’s already in trouble after being caught, this should not happen in the first place.
That girl must be influenced by anyone, and imagine betting with the funds that is not yours, that could be a serious problem already. Too bad for her, she gets addicted into lottery, i hope this kind of news didn’t disclose to the public because that girl is still a student and can still change her life for the better.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: coin-investor on January 27, 2023, 11:13:09 PM
They failed to teach the student about honesty and also failed to trace that she is addicted to gambling if they discovered it earlier they will not entrust the funds to her care, and she ruin her career not only she will not going to finish her study but the school will likely ban her and worse she will go to prison for money laundering and embezzlement, this is what will happen if you are deep into an addiction to gambling, you will have no respect on people's trust and money.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: harizen on January 27, 2023, 11:26:49 PM
They failed to teach the student about honesty and also failed to trace that she is addicted to gambling if they discovered it earlier they will not entrust the funds to her care, and she ruin her career not only she will not going to finish her study but the school will likely ban her and worse she will go to prison for money laundering and embezzlement, this is what will happen if you are deep into an addiction to gambling, you will have no respect on people's trust and money.

We are talking about a person here which already at the point where there's no need for any teaching about anything related to honesty. It's not appropriate to blame the school for failing to teach the student about honesty. There is also no way for them to know that the said student is addicted to gambling.

More importantly, why trust graduation funds to a student? This is the first time I saw a student able to access a graduation fund. Regardless of the student's status or let's say she is a top notcher, any related to graduations shouldn't be handled by a student.

Fast forward, I hope though that the student truly learned her lesson. That experience will be lived on her mind for several years.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: PX-Z on January 27, 2023, 11:28:02 PM
Bad habit, hobby, influence affects everything, especially in gambling and when its associated with greediness, it probably end up in very bad way.
This is an obvious crime, the student should be sanctioned and get jailed if she is in the legal age. Because if not this will continue until she grows up until she seek on legal/professional advice or completely rehab.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Mahanton on January 27, 2023, 11:29:13 PM
She won some times but the net profit is a loss, It was said that she even gambled daily, it would be a loss for everyday gambler while gambling with people's money that can bring poor mindset towards gambling, resulting to losses. She did not think of the consequences if she lost part or all the money. That is not a small amount of money at all and I see this as an act of indiscipline. People can still be thinking to gamble with their own money or parents money in a way that nothing like jail term or prison will be involved, unlike using public money for it. I am not saying it is good to gamble with parent's money, all are bad and only little amount should be used on gambling. Gambling should be for working class people and the working class should spend less than 5% of his or her income on gambling.
Wins couldnt be counted if you do end up on having a debt or on loss, and also its not always been that ethical for you to make use of funds which arent yours.This is why its really hard to entrust up some huge amount of money into someone which had been collected into various members or numbers of people where there's always the risks or chances for it to be used into things which arent supposed to be used.
That  girl should face up the consequences on what he had done because its never been that good or ethical on using funds which arent yours. $200k isnt a small money i would say.
You would be fucked up if you dont have any back up funds or support do came from your family and friends on repaying it back.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 27, 2023, 11:33:31 PM
Bad habit, hobby, influence affects everything, especially in gambling and when its associated with greediness, it probably end up in very bad way.
This is an obvious crime, the student should be sanctioned and get jailed if she in the legal age. Because if not this will continue until she grows up until he seek on legal/professional advice.

it's not her money in the first place. so yeah, owed to greed and gambling habits she will ruin her future.
the very reason why gambling has been in the negative light because of persons like her. they will go to the extent of stealing funds to cater their desires. well, not the first and definitely not the last.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: goinmerry on January 27, 2023, 11:59:16 PM
The experienced is not a joke. I don't understand why there's a person who is brave enough to risk such a huge amount of money in gambling.

And the surprising part is that's not even their money so where the hell they are getting the courage to face the risks?

That girl ruined his reputation and sorry to say that she just wrecked her good future.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Hispo on January 28, 2023, 02:06:18 AM
Complete insanity, not only because the fact she was using other's money to gamble but also she managed to turn an important sum of cash into a higher amount debt, who in the world even consider to accept credit from someone who is this chronically affected by gambling addiction? goes beyond common sense.

She better get sometime behind bars and hopefully some rehab.

...
not sure if all are aware but Brazil has public and private colleges
public ones are free of charge, all paid with taxes but with no fees at all for students.

Pretty much, I believe all countries (or most of them) have both private and public universities and high schools.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: uneng on January 28, 2023, 02:25:16 AM
More importantly, why trust graduation funds to a student? This is the first time I saw a student able to access a graduation fund. Regardless of the student's status or let's say she is a top notcher, any related to graduations shouldn't be handled by a student.
Because students contribute to this fund periodically, probably every month. They compose a comission with few members chosen by themselves to manage the fund. It's their responsability to keep their own money safe for the graduation's expenses. I believe other people wouldn't want to be responsible for keeping it.

Complete insanity, not only because the fact she was using other's money to gamble but also she managed to turn an important sum of cash into a higher amount debt, who in the world even consider to accept credit from someone who is this chronically affected by gambling addiction? goes beyond common sense.
It intrigues me she was able to place a bet without paying it immediately. I believe the lottery's owner was used to her going there everyday placing huge bets, so he gave her that credit. Since she didn't win, she just didn't come back anymore...


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Hispo on January 28, 2023, 02:32:18 AM
It intrigues me she was able to place a bet without paying it immediately. I believe the lottery's owner was used to her going there everyday placing huge bets, so he gave her that credit. Since she didn't win, she just didn't come back anymore...

Still does not make much sense to me to be honest.
Would you give credit to someone who you know is gambling recklessly and is already out of money? I would not.
I would make an exception if the person provided some collateral and the sum of debt was relatively small, but we are talking of 5 figures here.  ::)

I would not even give that much credit to people who is part of my family, let alone a woman who has proven herself to have problems. Shameful.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: uneng on January 28, 2023, 02:44:11 AM
It intrigues me she was able to place a bet without paying it immediately. I believe the lottery's owner was used to her going there everyday placing huge bets, so he gave her that credit. Since she didn't win, she just didn't come back anymore...

Still does not make much sense to me to be honest.
Would you give credit to someone who you know is gambling recklessly and is already out of money? I would not.
I would make an exception if the person provided some collateral and the sum of debt was relatively small, but we are talking of 5 figures here.  ::)

I would not even give that much credit to people who is part of my family, let alone a woman who has proven herself to have problems. Shameful.
I think the lottery's owner didn't know she had ran out of money yet, until she didn't come back anymore. It seems there was a solid routine of bets everyday and even though she was losing, she continued gambling, until the last day. I don't know what must have passed through the lottery owner's mind, but I guess he was confortable with the young lady's frequent activity on his shop.

Maybe he thought she was laundering money, so the prizes weren't exactly her final goal?

There is also the possibility it wasn't about addiction, but a dumb plan she saw on the internet gambling gurus promoting it's guaranteed to win if you have a lot of money to "invest".


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on January 28, 2023, 04:08:31 AM
There are many sites on the internet teaching how to win on this lottery, as if it were possible to make it in a safe way.

Really? That's what I call a scam.

All lotteries work the same way. They raise money and give out less money in prizes than they raise, typically 50-70%. Short-term results, as long as it is not rigged, are pure luck, while in the long run the larger the sample size the more likely you are to lose money on net.

Anyone who does not understand this is in danger of ending up like the protagonist in our story, looking for an easy way to get rich and listening to those who teach them 'strategies' for winning the lottery.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: wxa7115 on January 28, 2023, 04:33:26 AM
They failed to teach the student about honesty and also failed to trace that she is addicted to gambling if they discovered it earlier they will not entrust the funds to her care, and she ruin her career not only she will not going to finish her study but the school will likely ban her and worse she will go to prison for money laundering and embezzlement, this is what will happen if you are deep into an addiction to gambling, you will have no respect on people's trust and money.

We are talking about a person here which already at the point where there's no need for any teaching about anything related to honesty. It's not appropriate to blame the school for failing to teach the student about honesty. There is also no way for them to know that the said student is addicted to gambling.

More importantly, why trust graduation funds to a student? This is the first time I saw a student able to access a graduation fund. Regardless of the student's status or let's say she is a top notcher, any related to graduations shouldn't be handled by a student.

Fast forward, I hope though that the student truly learned her lesson. That experience will be lived on her mind for several years.
And speaking about the school there is no mention on the article about what they will do against the student but I suppose this guarantees expulsion for the student.

Not only she abused the trust her peers had on her and appropriated funds which did not belonged to her, but she is also giving an awful image to the school, which is sad because supposedly the graduation party would take place at the end of this year and I assume she was close to graduating too, so not only she is likely to spend some time at jail but it is unlikely she will graduate.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Chikito on January 28, 2023, 04:50:56 AM
Bad habit, hobby, influence affects everything, especially in gambling and when its associated with greediness, it probably end up in very bad way.
This is an obvious crime, the student should be sanctioned and get jailed if she is in the legal age. Because if not this will continue until she grows up until he seek on legal/professional advice or completely rehab.
Yes, this is all about the ethic code after completing the study and being a nurse or doctor. And, it's his right if be a gambler or anything outside that because in this case, we are talking about morals. If she can't control and manage himself so how can the doctor or nurse treat patients after graduating later?. Maybe as you suggest, she must get sanctioned, and dismissed from college so as not to harm the patient in the future. 


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: CryptoYar on January 28, 2023, 05:14:28 AM
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Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!
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I guess it is a lie that she had made any investment rather I believe that she must have lost this money in gambling because of her addiction.

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A lottery representative attended Deic and said that the woman had been betting every day

As mentioned in the article, she used to gamble daily basis, so it is quite possible that she gambled someday to win big, in this greed she invested all the money, and after losing she making such lame excuses that she lost money in an investment.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 28, 2023, 05:30:47 AM
I don't exactly find what is her motive behind gambling with the raised money from student. ::)

It just reminds me that when people see money the change or show their real face which may never saw in the past so this has nothing to do with the gambling because her own ignorance and mistreatment of funds caused the loss and she should be given right punishment for committing such crime.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: dothebeats on January 28, 2023, 05:46:15 AM
What a way to graduate! And what school are they from that they managed to raise $200,000 just for graduation funds? The woman clearly has her priorities though it's not in a way that benefits her nor the people around her. I guess she believed that she can beat the system so much that she was determined to use funds that are not hers in order to make bets. Unluckily, she won, but her winnings aren't enough to cover for what she used. She's clearly delusional, and she deserves to be in jail to learn her lesson.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on January 28, 2023, 09:08:52 AM
What a way to graduate! And what school are they from that they managed to raise $200,000 just for graduation funds? The woman clearly has her priorities though it's not in a way that benefits her nor the people around her. I guess she believed that she can beat the system so much that she was determined to use funds that are not hers in order to make bets. Unluckily, she won, but her winnings aren't enough to cover for what she used. She's clearly delusional, and she deserves to be in jail to learn her lesson.
This is addiction if she is gambling on daily basis plus she's a scammer and cheater who used class graduation funds for her personal interest.  Serious action should be taken against such people who play with future of the people and cause such harmful affects to them.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: goldkingcoiner on January 28, 2023, 10:05:35 AM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)

This is what addiction does to people, unfortunately. And addiction is a very real disease even if some people scoff at that very notion. I am not going to feel sorry for her, as her actions were her own and she deserves the punishments that she will undoubtedly receive, but I can definitely say that at the very least, I understand.

Had she the self control to stop at a profit, she might have covertly been able to put the money back where it belongs, without anyone noticing and she would have made a profit as well. Not that I condone gambling with stolen money. Just saying.

It seems towards the end she just became desperate.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: michellee on January 28, 2023, 10:06:01 AM
It was a stupid thing to do by sacrifice money for his graduation into gambling. However, the risks are enormous because gambling is not a place to double money fast but to lose money fast. I wonder how the graduation will go if there is no money.

Once again, we get a valuable lesson from that story where when the desire to get lots of money has taken over, we will forget our responsibilities. We can use the money for pleasure regardless of what will happen later.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: swogerino on January 28, 2023, 10:29:50 AM
If she were a math or statistics student probably she would not have made such huge and gross mistake.She should have known better that the odds to win national lotteries are really low,just as an example to 6 from 49 you need 13.8 million tickets to be sure that a 6 number combinations will come,now is another story what is the price to buy such tickets but 99.99% of the times is higher than the winning prize which does not make a lot of sense to do this.

Beside that,tell me one person who has become rich by cheating others and they have kept their fortune because I know some have become by doing such cheats but not for long.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: chaser15 on January 28, 2023, 10:40:09 AM
If only she were able to control herself to just return the funds she risked and just enjoy the profit she made, maybe the story turned differently. Although it's also possible that after losing all those profits, she will use again the funds, at least there might be some things that will change her mind.

It's clear that the woman got carried away and since she feels lucky, she just continues gambling until everything loses.

Aside from facing the law, that is something embarrassing to her colleagues and I doubt she still has the courage to face those people in their school.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: rhomelmabini on January 28, 2023, 10:40:55 AM
This is a risk that doesn't really sound nice. The effect of being an addict is what we see with this. To play gambling game, you need your personal money for it and not public money but what she has done is high risk that can get her into trouble.
What a pathetic student, still studying yet have set an eyes on embezzling money that's not hers, this kind of student may goes through in life but surely the same thing is her way to be successful. She knows the risk and I assume she is conscious when she gamble the money so I think that she needs to face jail time and she deserves it.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Betwrong on January 28, 2023, 10:57:21 AM
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Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.
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I tried to search more on this case but found nothing new, no updates on the story. Maybe it's because I don't speak Portuguese, and it's more of a local news there. Anyway, it would be interesting to read not only updates, but a more detailed account of this one.

I'd like to find out what were her motives. Was she religious? Or, did she think she knows how to win the lottery?


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Wexnident on January 28, 2023, 11:22:53 AM
The fact that she had the gall to even say that she invested in a brokerage and got scammed and yet refused to present any sort of evidence whatsoever is actually quite brave. I'm actually amazed that she still won, could've possibly made a profit if she stopped early on. People probably wouldn't have judged her if all ended well, but since it didn't, then she simply has to take the responsibility for the consequences of all of it.

Nevertheless, the fact that the money wasn't even hers in the first place and she used it for gambling is stupid already. I'm amazed the lottery let her go under debt just to bet, never knew that was possible (it isn't in my area afaik).


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: rodskee on January 28, 2023, 11:47:34 AM
and now even student is becoming addicted in gambling and can act like this? how our students nowadays become?
wondering what kind of family breeding this human has all her life.
and now she is facing several case that will ruin her life forever.
This is a risk that doesn't really sound nice. The effect of being an addict is what we see with this. To play gambling game, you need your personal money for it and not public money but what she has done is high risk that can get her into trouble.
What a pathetic student, still studying yet have set an eyes on embezzling money that's not hers, this kind of student may goes through in life but surely the same thing is her way to be successful. She knows the risk and I assume she is conscious when she gamble the money so I think that she needs to face jail time and she deserves it.
and this is a decision she will never forget forever and this is also what would make her life ruined forever.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: bitzizzix on January 28, 2023, 11:49:05 AM
This is a risk that doesn't really sound nice. The effect of being an addict is what we see with this. To play gambling game, you need your personal money for it and not public money but what she has done is high risk that can get her into trouble.
What a pathetic student, still studying yet have set an eyes on embezzling money that's not hers, this kind of student may goes through in life but surely the same thing is her way to be successful. She knows the risk and I assume she is conscious when she gamble the money so I think that she needs to face jail time and she deserves it.
It should be like that, and he should be given a penalty for deterrent effect and also for the example of other gamblers not to gamble with money that is not his.
it seems he has become an addict because most addicts will use anyone's money and also from anywhere to keep playing, and indeed he is aware but realizes he has been blinded by ambition and also greed which does not necessarily result as expected.
and a person like that is very dangerous if not handled properly, because it will definitely happen again and maybe before he did the same thing betting with money that is not rightfully his.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: rhomelmabini on January 28, 2023, 12:05:20 PM
This is a risk that doesn't really sound nice. The effect of being an addict is what we see with this. To play gambling game, you need your personal money for it and not public money but what she has done is high risk that can get her into trouble.
What a pathetic student, still studying yet have set an eyes on embezzling money that's not hers, this kind of student may goes through in life but surely the same thing is her way to be successful. She knows the risk and I assume she is conscious when she gamble the money so I think that she needs to face jail time and she deserves it.
It should be like that, and he should be given a penalty for deterrent effect and also for the example of other gamblers not to gamble with money that is not his.
it seems he has become an addict because most addicts will use anyone's money and also from anywhere to keep playing, and indeed he is aware but realizes he has been blinded by ambition and also greed which does not necessarily result as expected.
and a person like that is very dangerous if not handled properly, because it will definitely happen again and maybe before he did the same thing betting with money that is not rightfully his.
Hard to tell if she was addicted to it or just want to make money from that funds since students will never trust her if she has history of gambling addiction. Well, she may never forget it or good thing if she will change that behavior behind the bars and leave that behavior forever and change her way of living.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: harizen on January 28, 2023, 12:22:53 PM
More importantly, why trust graduation funds to a student? This is the first time I saw a student able to access a graduation fund. Regardless of the student's status or let's say she is a top notcher, any related to graduations shouldn't be handled by a student.
Because students contribute to this fund periodically, probably every month. They compose a comission with few members chosen by themselves to manage the fund. It's their responsability to keep their own money safe for the graduation's expenses. I believe other people wouldn't want to be responsible for keeping it.

I'm aware of that system inside a school but here in the story, I will assume that these students are already at the highest level where contribution to fund graduation is not a usual practice anymore, at least compared to what's the usual practice here in our country. That's why I said that's the first time I hear of a student able to access graduation funds specifically at that level.

Well then, what happened already happened and consequences will surely be imposed or already happened now even though no follow-up news was posted. We don't have any idea what happened next in that story.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Coin_trader on January 28, 2023, 12:39:10 PM
Hard to tell if she was addicted to it or just want to make money from that funds since students will never trust her if she has history of gambling addiction. Well, she may never forget it or good thing if she will change that behavior behind the bars and leave that behavior forever and change her way of living.

Losing too much money by playing lottery means she is addicted on it. This game is a slow phase game and it will take so many bets to have a debt of 40,000$ after a several winning. Only a serial gambling addicts who loves winning more or craving for jackpot will continuously gambling someone’s fund despite he already win some money.

Normal people with personal needs will stop the moment she gets profit. Also considering the fact that she is using the class funds is clear sign that she has an addiction problem.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: n0ne on January 28, 2023, 12:41:19 PM
Gambling is risky. To gamble with others money without their knowledge is even more riskier. Few might get lucky to experience good return out of the gamble whereas the majority ends up with loss. Here too we can experience the same scenario. In most of the incidents, the victim used to end his/her life. Here the medical student hadn't taken any such decision, which is really good. Atleast with this experience she will try to correct herself and stay away from addicted gambling.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 28, 2023, 12:41:44 PM
Hard to tell if she was addicted to it or just want to make money from that funds since students will never trust her if she has history of gambling addiction. Well, she may never forget it or good thing if she will change that behavior behind the bars and leave that behavior forever and change her way of living.

Losing too much money by playing lottery means she is addicted on it. This game is a slow phase game and it will take so many bets to have a debt of 40,000$ after a several winning. Only a serial gambling addicts who loves winning more or craving for jackpot will continuously gambling someone’s fund despite he already win some money.

Normal people with personal needs will stop the moment she gets profit. Also considering the fact that she is using the class funds is clear sign that she has an addiction problem.

Yes, and she won 5x, so it means that maybe when she win the first time, she feel addicted to it. For us it's call beginners luck, but that is the trap. Because once you taste that win, you wan to continue to play.

And the thing is that she won it that many times and still she loses money.

So most likely its not only the class funds that she embezzled, but probably there is more to it.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: acroman08 on January 28, 2023, 01:35:09 PM
They failed to teach the student about honesty and also failed to trace that she is addicted to gambling
not sure what's the point of this post. it is not their job to teach her honesty and it is not their job to find find out whether she is addicted to gambling or not. she is a grown woman that can think for herself, she should know what is right and wrong. none of what happened is their fault, the person to blame here is the woman who gambled the money that is not hers.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 28, 2023, 02:02:57 PM
What she did was very risky to experience defeat, and the worst part is that she can become addicted, and I think she has become addicted to gambling. Lottery games can really make a person addicted to gambling because, with ticket prices that are not too expensive, one can buy many tickets at once and wait for the results to come out. If he is lucky and can win, there is a tendency to buy another lottery ticket and do it again and it will also happen if he suffers a loss. Hopefully, she is aware of what she did and will try to recover from her gambling addiction and not repeat her actions.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: el kaka22 on January 28, 2023, 02:09:02 PM
It really doesn't mean that it was a "bad" idea, it is not just about bad or anything like that, it is also an immoral and illegal one that's the problem. I mean win or lose, this is a bad thing and it is an illegal thing. You can't embezzle funds and you can't just get away with it because you profited from it.

If you allow even one person to not follow the law then you have to accept the fact that it is not a law anymore, otherwise what is law for you may not become law for someone else and that's how corruption starts. I personally believe that this person should be jailed and to a maximum level, just because they failed to follow the law of the nation and should be prosecuted.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Wapfika on January 28, 2023, 02:18:16 PM
They failed to teach the student about honesty and also failed to trace that she is addicted to gambling
not sure what's the point of this post. it is not their job to teach her honesty and it is not their job to find find out whether she is addicted to gambling or not. she is a grown woman that can think for herself, she should know what is right and wrong. none of what happened is their fault, the person to blame here is the woman who gambled the money that is not hers.

I think he means teaching the girl an honesty during the childhood of this woman. She will not grow up like that if she has a strong foundation for having a good ethics. Probably this woman didn’t properly educated on things like this because a woman with strong ethics foundation will never do such thing since it’s a responsibility given to her by the class.

In this case, the woman is clearly at fault but this will be prevented if this woman think straight and doesn’t have any addiction which she get on her environment.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: pawanjain on January 28, 2023, 02:18:49 PM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)

It's a shame on her that she used her classmates' money to gamble and lost it.
Just think how hard they must be earning the money and paying for the graduation fees.
How can she even think of betraying her classmates and their emotions and especially their studies.
I hope the police takes strict action against her and makes her pay all the funds lost.
She must be imprisoned and pay for her mistakes.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 28, 2023, 02:40:54 PM
This kind of a student must be the desperate type for being a female, enrolled in a medical school and yet gave time to be gambling this high, i fear such desperation in this kind of student because she also went ahead in using the contributed fund to gamble and lied she was scammed, well being a genuine and trustworthy person is never by gender, age or qualifications, it's all from individuals minds and what each is made up of, being a student i wonder what's her intention to engage the money for after winning.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Mauser on January 28, 2023, 02:54:19 PM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.


What a crazy story, when reading these stories I really ask myself how things like that still possible in 2023. There has been so much fraud in the past that eventually people need to realise that we can't trust each other when it comes to large sums of money. First of all how is there 200,000 USD in a graduation fund for only one class? Brazil is a relatively poor country and I wouldn't expect such kind of money in a graduation fund. And why has one student alone oversight over the fund? With so much money I would expect multiple people to be involved and at least an official from the university. It's really sad for all the students who lost money there. If she is addicted to gambling and has access to so much money without any oversight, I would say that it was only a matter of time for something to happen. Hopefully this is a lesson for the university to increase security to make sure its not going to happen again.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: molsewid on January 28, 2023, 03:13:29 PM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)

If she did that i think it is because he is already addicted to gambling in the point that she even risk their class funds in order for her to gamble, but there is something on my mind that makes me think that if she was a medicine student how can she have some time for it? I mean playing , I mean if there's a back story of it why does she used it? but then it is really a bad thing to used somebody money for it.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: QueenVera on January 28, 2023, 03:27:20 PM
This story is really interesting but also very funny and why will contributions done by an entire class be given to just one person in this very generation?
I think if she's of age then she should face the legal rots of the law and serve the necessary jail terms so it can all learn from these stories and take precautionary measures. The parents should be held to come make the necessary payments because it was their duty to train their ward the right way. I'm not blaming him so hard for using the class money but I'm blaming him for ow being so greedy even after the first payment was made and that is really bad and I guess it's because he wanted more money to flunct         





Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: seoincorporation on January 28, 2023, 04:04:07 PM
How can someone ends up in debt after winning 5 times the lottery?, that was some kind of bruteforce gambling.

Too bad she was using the graduation money, for sure wasn't easy for the students to get that money and was easy for her to gamble those funds, she should go to jail for those actions, it's called karma. And even if she goes to jail the students will not recover that money at all.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: cabron on January 28, 2023, 05:10:44 PM
How can someone ends up in debt after winning 5 times the lottery?, that was some kind of bruteforce gambling.

Too bad she was using the graduation money, for sure wasn't easy for the students to get that money and was easy for her to gamble those funds, she should go to jail for those actions, it's called karma. And even if she goes to jail the students will not recover that money at all.

Yep she should have stopped to think of the consequences and if she really wanted to keep playing, she can play the money she won but give back the graduation funds if she was smart enough.

She didn't learn in medical school how addiction works but she was trusted by her colleagues to keep their money. She must have some sort of charisma.



Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Davidvictorson on January 28, 2023, 05:24:28 PM
This is just a clear case of gambling addiction. It makes me wonder how they get the boldness or courage to go as far as using other people's money to gamble. Personally, I do not want to believe that they work alone. In this case, I think someone must have convinced her to go ahead and use the money. Also, the right punishment for this case shouldn't be jail but rather 6–12 months of rehabilitation and recovery. Also, she should somehow be made to pay back the original funds to her classmates.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Asiska02 on January 28, 2023, 05:38:20 PM
No one will hear this and encourage people to gamble again in the future. This is complete gambling addiction. People should know when to stop gambling and should never gamble with money they cannot afford to lose. I feel bad for the other students who put their money in her hands. Any penalty imposed by the authorities on her is well deserved. Many people need gambling orientation to avoid situations like this.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: uneng on January 28, 2023, 05:40:22 PM
I tried to search more on this case but found nothing new, no updates on the story. Maybe it's because I don't speak Portuguese, and it's more of a local news there. Anyway, it would be interesting to read not only updates, but a more detailed account of this one.

I'd like to find out what were her motives. Was she religious? Or, did she think she knows how to win the lottery?
If I have access to something new, I will post here. There isn't much else to say yet, because this case is happening in real time. Investigations are happening on this exact moment and all her personal items, like electronic devices and vehicle have been seized by the police for analysis of further evidences if she acted by herself or if there are partners involved. Accounts were also blocked.

Too little was said about the personality of the woman. It was said she is a very intelligent person, although being private and quiet, doesn't share details of her personal life with classmates.

It's a shame on her that she used her classmates' money to gamble and lost it.
Just think how hard they must be earning the money and paying for the graduation fees.
How can she even think of betraying her classmates and their emotions and especially their studies.
I hope the police takes strict action against her and makes her pay all the funds lost.
She must be imprisoned and pay for her mistakes.
Now imagine such an irresponsible and egoistical person was going to graduate and become a medical to take care of human lives. Imagine the kind of professional she was going to be...


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: klidex on January 28, 2023, 06:50:57 PM
Actually the way he did was the wrong way and would lead him to even bigger trouble because he had embezzled money from members of his class group.
Even though he managed to win up to 5 times, he was already involved in an unusual case because it would put him on trial and even in prison.
We can learn from this incident that we should not use any means just to be able to bet or gamble, especially if the methods we use are detrimental to other people, such as fraud or embezzlement of funds.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 28, 2023, 07:02:33 PM
How can someone ends up in debt after winning 5 times the lottery?, that was some kind of bruteforce gambling.

Too bad she was using the graduation money, for sure wasn't easy for the students to get that money and was easy for her to gamble those funds, she should go to jail for those actions, it's called karma. And even if she goes to jail the students will not recover that money at all.
That is the most painful part of it, the students will never recover their money back, even if the woman goes to jail..
But that should not stop the authorities from sending her to jail anyway, what she did is what I call a devil's kind of wickedness, even if she was a gambling addict, shouldn't she have cautioned her self a bit know the money she's gambling with belonged to students who are preparing for their graduation?.
To me, I think she deserve a stricter punishment other than just going to jail, they should give her a long jail term with hard labour, this should teach her a lesson and serve as a warning to others like her out there.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: virasisog on January 28, 2023, 07:02:40 PM
It should have been wiser if he stopped when he was such a huge amount. However, the ends still don't justify the means so he still needs to pay for what he did and face the consequences.
In the first place, it is really wrong to gamble the funds that aren't yours or even risk the funds that you can't afford to lose. He must face charges for what he did. He didn't just ruin his reputation because of gambling addiction but he also lost a good future.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Jemzx00 on January 28, 2023, 07:35:17 PM
This story is really interesting but also very funny and why will contributions done by an entire class be given to just one person in this very generation?
I think if she's of age then she should face the legal rots of the law and serve the necessary jail terms so it can all learn from these stories and take precautionary measures. The parents should be held to come make the necessary payments because it was their duty to train their ward the right way. I'm not blaming him so hard for using the class money but I'm blaming him for ow being so greedy even after the first payment was made and that is really bad and I guess it's because he wanted more money to flunct         
Actually, these kinds of scenario are quite common if you think of it especially on schools or universities as we entrust our funds to one person only which has been assigned to it especially for group projects and thesis. However, along with that are temptation from the person whose holding the funds to spend those with their own personal choice.

Also, if he's already a legal age then he and only him is responsible for this kind of issue. His parents are not responsible to his actions anymore and is not required to pay for the loss funds. And yes, you can blame him for not being trustworthy on keeping the funds safe.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: rahmad2nd on January 28, 2023, 08:30:15 PM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)

At least this case has been processed by the authorities, although there has been no action or renewal regarding this case. I am sure that if this case is handled by the authorities, this woman will immediately be held accountable for her actions. however, the crux of the case is about addiction.

So, instead of winning the lottery 5 times. too bad, it doesn't make up for the losses he has suffered. referring from this case, no matter what her position, intelligence, status, even if this woman is a medical student. when addiction has taken root in him, he will find it difficult to control himself over the desire to fulfill his desire to gamble the lottery. as if, his rationality to think sanely lost control by his high desire to win the lottery again. in the end, this woman must be held accountable for her actions that allegedly embezzled graduation money.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: serjent05 on January 28, 2023, 09:10:33 PM
She won some times but the net profit is a loss, It was said that she even gambled daily, that would be a loss for everyday gambler with people's money. She did not think if the consequences if she lost part or all the money. That is not a small amount of money at all and I see this as an act of indiscipline. People can still be think to gamble with their own money or parents money in a way that nothing like jail or prison will be involved, unlike public money. I am not saying it is good to gamble with parent money, all are bad and only little amount should be used on gambling. Gambling should be for working class and the working class should spend less than 5% of his income on gambling.

I think this is a clear case of gambling addiction. Any gambler that goes to the extent of using another people's funds at his/her disposal to gamble needs help because such person has lost control of his gambling behavior. Gambling addicts just like other forms of addiction don't consider the consequences of thier actions because they are just concerned about satisfying a burning and uncontrollable desire in them. She would have to pay back her debt an sent to a gambling rehabs for the treatment his addiction.

I agree it is a case of gambling addiction.  No sane gambler will use his schoolmate's fund to gamble.  There is sure an uncontrollable urge there that mad the person to gamble without considering the possible consequences if he lost the fund.

Lying is also one sign of gambling addiction.  To cover up his misdeed he has to lie and invent a story just to make sure people won't think that he lost the money because he is addicted to gambling.




So, instead of winning the lottery 5 times. too bad, it doesn't make up for the losses he has suffered. referring from this case, no matter what her position, intelligence, status, even if this woman is a medical student. when addiction has taken root in him, he will find it difficult to control himself over the desire to fulfill his desire to gamble the lottery. as if, his rationality to think sanely lost control by his high desire to win the lottery again. in the end, this woman must be held accountable for her actions that allegedly embezzled graduation money.

If she won a major or jackpot reward, he wouldn't be facing all these allegations.  Imaging he bet on the lottery and not paying them, this person knows how to defraud people. Is it the result of his gambling addiction?


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: deathcode on January 28, 2023, 10:41:40 PM
oh lord
people definitely don't care where they put their money.

surprised by the fact this happening in USP too
it's the hardest college in Brazil to go in

not sure if all are aware but Brazil has public and private colleges
public ones are free of charge, all paid with taxes but with no fees at all for students.

Yet another very detrimental and sad case of craving for gambling addiction.
We know gambling addiction knows no age.
Likewise gambling addiction does not know what a person's profession and rank is.
There have been many other examples of even worse cases of gambling addiction.
What is sad is that some cases are sometimes carried out by people who have an IQ above average,
even carried out by people who are respectable and have high positions in a government agency.
What they should be more aware of and be able to think about is the impact and consequences of the actions taken.
In fact his eyes and mind are blinded by gambling addiction.
Even a small child might, if they are used to and have fun with gambling, they will definitely experience addiction.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Issa56 on January 28, 2023, 11:15:38 PM
How can someone ends up in debt after winning 5 times the lottery?, that was some kind of bruteforce gambling.
She was not satisfied with the amount that she won already, she wanted more that was why she ended up losing everything, i don't know why she have to gamble with the money that belongs to the class, she is definitely addicted to gambling because the person that's not addicted to gambling won't have the courage to gamble with the money that's those not belong to him or her. The funniest part is that she won 5 times but she was not still satisfied, she wanted to win more money.
And even if she goes to jail the students will not recover that money at all.
I think she should be arrested, they shouldn't just free her, if she is in jail she won't be able to recover the money, but how will she be able to recover the money even if she is not arrested? I think she should be punished for what she did.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 28, 2023, 11:24:00 PM
Wow, that's a really dire circumstance. I'm delighted the police are looking into the situation, and I hope justice will be done. It's important to keep in mind that stealing from others—especially your classmates—is both wrong and unlawful. I'm hoping that the impacted students will be able to recoup the money that was deducted from them. In order to prevent being a victim of fraud, it's also critical to exercise caution while investing and to constantly do your own research. It's awful to learn that the lady may have been defrauded, but stealing from others to make up for it is wrong.
Whom would really expect out?

Collection or accumulation of funds was really that intended for educational purposes or simply with those graduation which is really that important.Whom had really thought?
Why these funds arent been entrusted on the faculty or teachers itself considering that it is a huge funds?

They are really that too much in loose on making it handled by some student.I dont have any trust issues but when it comes to money and we dont know on how
a certain person would react out on the time they had handling huge funds then it would really be an another story.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: capedbaldy on January 28, 2023, 11:32:16 PM
She was not satisfied with the amount that she won already, she wanted more that was why she ended up losing everything, i don't know why she have to gamble with the money that belongs to the class, she is definitely addicted to gambling because the person that's not addicted to gambling won't have the courage to gamble with the money that's those not belong to him or her. The funniest part is that she won 5 times but she was not still satisfied, she wanted to win more money.
He is very greedy and does not realize he is using other people's money in his gambling, even though he has won 5 times but he does not stop gambling, even though he can get the winning money for him and return other money to his coffers, he has been heavily addicted to gambling because he should only chase victory and leave gambling.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Smartvirus on January 28, 2023, 11:47:26 PM
There are many sites on the internet teaching how to win on this lottery, as if it were possible to make it in a safe way. I guess the student must have had access to such websites and thought she could make it work. :P
Apparently. You know, that's the point I was about to get to before you took it off me mouth. Those schemes and tricks just never works in casino or lotto gambling. It's a system that is based on luck and nothing else.
My annoyance with the case is, how can you give someone sole authority over a collectively owned funds. I get it she was/is the president of the group but, having to transfer organisation funds to private account, that should have raised a red flag and questions should have been asked then.

The said student is just an opportunist criminal for tampering with people's funds with hopes to profit from it  unauthorised and an addictive gambler for waging such huge amounts. He ain't ain't one bit and even devices a scheme to defend himself without prior informing the group on what's going on.

The goodnews is, the law will always catch up to individuals such as described in OP.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Vaskiy on January 28, 2023, 11:52:24 PM
She was not satisfied with the amount that she won already, she wanted more that was why she ended up losing everything, i don't know why she have to gamble with the money that belongs to the class, she is definitely addicted to gambling because the person that's not addicted to gambling won't have the courage to gamble with the money that's those not belong to him or her. The funniest part is that she won 5 times but she was not still satisfied, she wanted to win more money.
He is very greedy and does not realize he is using other people's money in his gambling, even though he has won 5 times but he does not stop gambling, even though he can get the winning money for him and return other money to his coffers, he has been heavily addicted to gambling because he should only chase victory and leave gambling.
If I'm not wrong earlier she could've practiced the same and made some money. This time she have gone with the big money which is the bad part. Initially she might have experienced profit, but the greed had made her go for big rolls and the same have caused her loss big. Anyhow she had good learning that we should not use others fund. Everywhere this is the problem same as what happened with FTX


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: noorman0 on January 29, 2023, 02:37:19 AM
This is just a clear case of gambling addiction. It makes me wonder how they get the boldness or courage to go as far as using other people's money to gamble.
At first I thought it was an acute addiction problem. But looking again at this case that the suspect is a woman, in plain view is the type of gender that is emotionally vulnerable. What's more, he holds that amount of money in his pocket at the peak of the sensation of his game or indeed because it is influenced by the results of previous games.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: len01 on January 29, 2023, 03:44:17 AM
This is just a clear case of gambling addiction. It makes me wonder how they get the boldness or courage to go as far as using other people's money to gamble.
At first I thought it was an acute addiction problem. But looking again at this case that the suspect is a woman, in plain view is the type of gender that is emotionally vulnerable. What's more, he holds that amount of money in his pocket at the peak of the sensation of his game or indeed because it is influenced by the results of previous games.
obviously it is an acute addiction to lottery gambling because as you said someone will become addicted after getting the previous victory and after that experiencing defeat and maybe he will continue to chase his defeat until his money is really gone. Addiction will not be in favor of men or women. If you are addicted to gambling, men and women will get worse and they will do anything to keep betting.
as the topic fills in the OP the lady previously won a few bucks on a lottery bet.

what I think right now, she is a woman who holds a lot of money in her pocket but why did she embezzle the funds in lottery bets? even though women are usually the same as spending money to shop for cosmetic clothes etc., but this woman chooses to bet on the lottery.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Issa56 on January 29, 2023, 06:43:22 AM
he has been heavily addicted to gambling because he should only chase victory and leave gambling.
She is definitely addicted to gambling, I don't think someone that's not addicted to gambling will gamble with the money that's not his/her own, I don't think their is any assurance that you are going to win when gambling, when gambling the chances of winning and losing is just 50/50, so why will you use the money that's not your own to do what you are not assured of win. Definitely she have being doing it before and probably she have been winning but she is not lucky this time around. She have to be forced to pay back the money so that she can learn her lesson.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: BobK71 on January 29, 2023, 06:52:56 AM
In gambling a gambler should gamble with his own earned money. If one conducts gambling with parents' money or common people's accumulated money, he will certainly face big disaster. Moreover, when a gambler makes a decision to place a large bet with someone else's money, it is considered a suicidal decision. The most appropriate rule is that if a gambler loses money, he is not liable to anyone. Gambling should be done with money that has legal works or earnings to recover.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Oshosondy on January 29, 2023, 09:30:42 AM
I think this is a clear case of gambling addiction. Any gambler that goes to the extent of using another people's funds at his/her disposal to gamble needs help because such person has lost control of his gambling behavior.
Yes it is gambling addiction, but as she misappropriated public money, it is indiscipline and an act of theft which can result to jail term. It is truly an addiction but this kind of addiction is stupidity. I have been addicted before, but not with public money. For gambling, gamblers should only gamble with their own money, but like I said before, some go to the extent of using their parents money to gamble, that is stupidity too. Gamblers should always know that the consequences of gambling can be fatal if using high amount of money, gambling should just be for fun.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: robelneo on January 29, 2023, 11:24:04 AM
In gambling a gambler should gamble with his own earned money. If one conducts gambling with parents' money or common people's accumulated money, he will certainly face big disaster. Moreover, when a gambler makes a decision to place a large bet with someone else's money, it is considered a suicidal decision. The most appropriate rule is that if a gambler loses money, he is not liable to anyone. Gambling should be done with money that has legal works or earnings to recover.

For an addicted gambler, the temptation to use other people's money is very strong, it started with a small bet then he chases his losses, until he losses the money that is not his, that's what happens to the girl in the article, this is the gravest sin of gamblers, gambling not with his own money, this is one of the reasons why companies do background checking on their employees holding a position about finances in the company to see if he has a gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: pawanjain on January 29, 2023, 12:29:49 PM

Too little was said about the personality of the woman. It was said she is a very intelligent person, although being private and quiet, doesn't share details of her personal life with classmates.

If she was an intelligent person she wouldn't have gambled her classmates' money at the very first place.
Secondly, she thought she would get away with it just by saying she lost the money.
This makes it easy for us to guess that she was not an intelligent person but an over confident gambling addict.

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It's a shame on her that she used her classmates' money to gamble and lost it.
Just think how hard they must be earning the money and paying for the graduation fees.
How can she even think of betraying her classmates and their emotions and especially their studies.
I hope the police takes strict action against her and makes her pay all the funds lost.
She must be imprisoned and pay for her mistakes.
Now imagine such an irresponsible and egoistical person was going to graduate and become a medical to take care of human lives. Imagine the kind of professional she was going to be...

Exactly. She doesn't deserve to get a medical degree. Her nature speaks about herself.
Such a doctor could have a dangerous impact on other people's lives.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 29, 2023, 01:40:39 PM
I think she is really in sin, but medical students are really more sensible and calculative to have lowered themselves so badly like she did and gambled with money that was not hers, money that was not even one person's fund. Well, the deal has been done, let her face every penalty that is due for her crime. 

If anyone could remember earlier before now, I once said I had a friend back then in school. This guy was a chronic gambling addict; nothing could stop him; he picked pockets, stole, gambled with his shoe, clothes, phone, and anything within his reach. He was arrested and detained in the cell for months, but each time he is released, he goes back to what he knows how to do. 

A lottery representative attended Deic and said that the woman had been betting every day,
more like an addict 🙄, who knows how many times she was betting each in a day.., maybe countlessly.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: buwaytress on January 29, 2023, 01:44:15 PM
Got to be one of the most misleading headlines I've read recently heh. She didn't win the lottery, she lost all her money gambling. That's really the headline, here, no?

I mean, you lose at poker or black jack or roulette, and you don't mention how many rounds you win before eventually busting (you can even win more hands than lose as people like me usually bust when chasing losing streaks).


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: uneng on January 29, 2023, 05:48:17 PM
Got to be one of the most misleading headlines I've read recently heh. She didn't win the lottery, she lost all her money gambling. That's really the headline, here, no?

I mean, you lose at poker or black jack or roulette, and you don't mention how many rounds you win before eventually busting (you can even win more hands than lose as people like me usually bust when chasing losing streaks).
Yes, you are right. I just copied the title of the news, but I guess the main point should be the loss, instead of the temporary winnings.



Video of the woman leaving the police department after statement to the authorities. She will wait for her trial out of custody. Highlight for her facial expression apparently smiling, calm, confident and mocking the situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fog2p3YP_Rc (from minute 0:24 on)


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Oceat on January 29, 2023, 06:04:56 PM
For an addicted gambler, the temptation to use other people's money is very strong, it started with a small bet then he chases his losses, until he losses the money that is not his, that's what happens to the girl in the article, this is the gravest sin of gamblers, gambling not with his own money, this is one of the reasons why companies do background checking on their employees holding a position about finances in the company to see if he has a gambling addiction.
Who should we trust those money if we don't know who should we trust? It's unfortunate for someone especially when it's a student who are eaten by the addiction of gambling it's like a drugs to them that they never thought they could control in the end. It's always a hard lesson for someone when they were involved in gambling there's always a huge tendency that they can't handle all of those losses since they were trying to chase their losses but they can't beat the system.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: redsun114 on January 29, 2023, 08:10:00 PM
In gambling a gambler should gamble with his own earned money. If one conducts gambling with parents' money or common people's accumulated money, he will certainly face big disaster. Moreover, when a gambler makes a decision to place a large bet with someone else's money, it is considered a suicidal decision. The most appropriate rule is that if a gambler loses money, he is not liable to anyone. Gambling should be done with money that has legal works or earnings to recover.
For an addicted gambler, the temptation to use other people's money is very strong, it started with a small bet then he chases his losses, until he losses the money that is not his, that's what happens to the girl in the article, this is the gravest sin of gamblers, gambling not with his own money, this is one of the reasons why companies do background checking on their employees holding a position about finances in the company to see if he has a gambling addiction.
That's because they don't have money left and then they already sold all their valuable items and have pending loans but their urge to gamble is still there and it became more intense than before so their only hope to gamble again is to steal someone else money. There is no way that an addicted gambler will bet small, more if the money they gamble is not theirs. They will have no fear of losing it and they don't also care if what can happen to them once they get caught out.

For now, what is important for them is to feed their appetite and that is to play gambling. That is how dangerous being addicted to gambling, so it's important to know the signs and prevent it early before it gets worse.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Mate2237 on January 29, 2023, 08:40:44 PM
If she's old enough which I believe she is, then nothing should stop her from going to jail, she's a criminal and should be treated as one, if it was her money or maybe her school fees she's lost through gambling, then I believe this wouldn't be a case at all, but gambling with public funds is way too extreme and one that must not be swept under the carpet, she should be made to serve as an example to those who might want to try the same thing in the future and hope to get away with it.
200,000 dollars is no small amount of money, and I can't imagine how many of the parents who went through hell to make sure they get this money to pay for their ward, this is an act that shouldnt be encouraged In our society.
I really feel sorry for the school and the students, this would probably be the worst graduation ceremony that school will have in their record, I hope they get through it..
This is an educational setting issue, the money belong to the class which is part of. And I think she is the class representative so there is a way the school handle such case and not a jail term. The school must have a security post to settle cases like this. The first thing to do is to inform the parents of the girl about the issue, and either the girl pays the money or the parents. And also give her extension of her schooling years as a punishment.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: KTChampions on January 29, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)

Is this news from the village of fools?  ;D
200 thousand dollars is a serious amount, was there really no control over it? Also, if their class consisted of 30 students, does each of them contribute $6,500? Maybe I didn’t understand something, but isn’t this a huge amount for such an event?


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: crzy on January 29, 2023, 09:09:57 PM
For an addicted gambler, the temptation to use other people's money is very strong, it started with a small bet then he chases his losses, until he losses the money that is not his, that's what happens to the girl in the article, this is the gravest sin of gamblers, gambling not with his own money, this is one of the reasons why companies do background checking on their employees holding a position about finances in the company to see if he has a gambling addiction.
Who should we trust those money if we don't know who should we trust? It's unfortunate for someone especially when it's a student who are eaten by the addiction of gambling it's like a drugs to them that they never thought they could control in the end. It's always a hard lesson for someone when they were involved in gambling there's always a huge tendency that they can't handle all of those losses since they were trying to chase their losses but they can't beat the system.
She got addicted and their classmates trust her with the funds because for sure she is trustworthy, its just that gambling takes over her. Too bad for a student to experience this and I hope that she can still recover from this and be better. This is a big lesson to her and I’d hope that her family will help her and will not abandon her. This is a reminder that we should gamble only with our own money, don’t be greedy if you can’t afford it.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Viscore on January 29, 2023, 09:39:25 PM
If she's old enough which I believe she is, then nothing should stop her from going to jail, she's a criminal and should be treated as one, if it was her money or maybe her school fees she's lost through gambling, then I believe this wouldn't be a case at all, but gambling with public funds is way too extreme and one that must not be swept under the carpet, she should be made to serve as an example to those who might want to try the same thing in the future and hope to get away with it.
200,000 dollars is no small amount of money, and I can't imagine how many of the parents who went through hell to make sure they get this money to pay for their ward, this is an act that shouldnt be encouraged In our society.
I really feel sorry for the school and the students, this would probably be the worst graduation ceremony that school will have in their record, I hope they get through it..
Maybe she’s mature enough seeing how far she have got embezzling all those funds all for her selfish desires. That student must probably be facing gambling addiction and she can’t control anymore her actions and decisions that made this whole mess up. I felt sorry for all her colleagues that they went through all of this because of an irresponsible student. If she can’t be put in jail, then she should be given proper sanction that will leave her a very big lesson not to do the same mistake again.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: serjent05 on January 29, 2023, 09:48:58 PM
Got to be one of the most misleading headlines I've read recently heh. She didn't win the lottery, she lost all her money gambling. That's really the headline, here, no?

I agree, well what can we expect? News today is more on exaggerated titles and often misleading ones for click-baiting.

I mean, you lose at poker or black jack or roulette, and you don't mention how many rounds you win before eventually busting (you can even win more hands than lose as people like me usually bust when chasing losing streaks).

True, those lottery wins are not worth mentioning( because they aren't a jackpot) at all let alone being a title of news.  It is more fitting to say just the person embezzled money due to gambling addiction.

A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)

Is this news from the village of fools?  ;D
200 thousand dollars is a serious amount, was there really no control over it? Also, if their class consisted of 30 students, does each of them contribute $6,500? Maybe I didn’t understand something, but isn’t this a huge amount for such an event?

Probably he is holding all the funds for all graduating classes at the university.  I believe it is for graduation thing, so I think there is more than 1 class involved.



Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: TimeTeller on January 29, 2023, 09:54:36 PM
If she's old enough which I believe she is, then nothing should stop her from going to jail, she's a criminal and should be treated as one, if it was her money or maybe her school fees she's lost through gambling, then I believe this wouldn't be a case at all, but gambling with public funds is way too extreme and one that must not be swept under the carpet, she should be made to serve as an example to those who might want to try the same thing in the future and hope to get away with it.
200,000 dollars is no small amount of money, and I can't imagine how many of the parents who went through hell to make sure they get this money to pay for their ward, this is an act that shouldnt be encouraged In our society.
I really feel sorry for the school and the students, this would probably be the worst graduation ceremony that school will have in their record, I hope they get through it..
Maybe she’s mature enough seeing how far she have got embezzling all those funds all for her selfish desires. That student must probably be facing gambling addiction and she can’t control anymore her actions and decisions that made this whole mess up. I felt sorry for all her colleagues that they went through all of this because of an irresponsible student. If she can’t be put in jail, then she should be given proper sanction that will leave her a very big lesson not to do the same mistake again.

Definitely, she needs a punishment here to learn from her mistakes.
But some people won't change if it is already embedded to their system.
However, a heavy penalty such as going to jail may give her some time to think about her life.
Addiction would really give you trouble if you are not using your own money, and can ruin other people's lives.
If the sentence will be light, she may just go on with her gambling habits.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: blockman on January 29, 2023, 09:56:56 PM
Exactly. She doesn't deserve to get a medical degree. Her nature speaks about herself.
Such a doctor could have a dangerous impact on other people's lives.
I agree whether that person will become a nurse or a doctor or any other allied medical profession in the future. The danger is there and the mindset and decision-making will affect future patients and that's why I agree that she should just be banned from taking any licensure exam in the medicine field.
Yeah, there's the 2nd chance but the profession that she's trying to take is all about someone's life and taking care of it and with known addiction in gambling, there could be something else.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: maydna on January 29, 2023, 10:07:53 PM
We see one more case of people using other people's money just for gambling, which may be another case of gambling addiction. She should be able to keep the money and not be tempted to use it for gambling. She really needs to get help to overcome her gambling problem and not let her do it again in the future. But at least she should get punished for what she did so he doesn't repeat it in the future. If it were her own money, maybe that would be fine, but the problem was she was using many people's money and had to be accountable to all of them as well.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: romero121 on January 29, 2023, 11:32:52 PM
We see one more case of people using other people's money just for gambling, which may be another case of gambling addiction. She should be able to keep the money and not be tempted to use it for gambling. She really needs to get help to overcome her gambling problem and not let her do it again in the future. But at least she should get punished for what she did so he doesn't repeat it in the future. If it were her own money, maybe that would be fine, but the problem was she was using many people's money and had to be accountable to all of them as well.
Myself too had this experience. He send me 3 Ethereum to cashout and I used it to gamble. I was able to win 0.5 Ethereum. The greed didn't left me, and I wanted to change it to 1 Ethereum as profit. Even the 1 Ethereum profit is being achieved and the greed continued. This made me loss everything and I borrowed money to settle my friend. This activity is really bad and later only I understood what wrong thing I've done.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: macson on January 30, 2023, 05:22:34 AM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)
this is a pretty crazy story that i've read, how can he be trusted to handle other students' funds which are quite large, does no one know the history of the student's gambling activity?  

Victims must keep pushing to keep this case up because letting her get away with it will only make her happy and will definitely repeat such fraudulent activities in the future.  Gambling or placing bets/lottery with other people's money is the stupidest thing that greedy gamblers do.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Kakmakr on January 30, 2023, 05:55:54 AM
This type of thing are more common than most people think. Many people steal money and then they try to gamble and win big, so that they can pay it back and just take the profit. Even if they succeed in doing that, it is still illegal.... so if it was found out... they could still be prosecuted.

In the majority of these cases, people might win a little bit of money... but most of them lose more than what they are stealing... and then it grows bigger and bigger, because they do not stop trying.  :o


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: danherbias07 on January 30, 2023, 06:03:18 AM
A person who gambles money that ain't his/her is not in the right mind anymore unless the owner of the money gave the permission to do so.
In this case, it is not, the money is for something else, so gambling addiction will be the first thing to assume.
The details seem to be lacking in the article or that's all they got from the interview but it seems like the suspect is lying about investing the fund to the Sentinel bank which was later said was scammed. Then, when the students and police are asking for paperwork, she said it was robbed. Sounds guilty for confusing statements.
I think the one proof they can get is from the lottery outlet where the suspect is making the bets daily, although didn't pay in the end.
I don't know how that worked though, because I thought before you get a lottery ticket you must pay first.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: dothebeats on January 30, 2023, 07:48:03 AM
This type of thing are more common than most people think. Many people steal money and then they try to gamble and win big, so that they can pay it back and just take the profit. Even if they succeed in doing that, it is still illegal.... so if it was found out... they could still be prosecuted.

In the majority of these cases, people might win a little bit of money... but most of them lose more than what they are stealing... and then it grows bigger and bigger, because they do not stop trying.  :o

Unfortunately for the woman, she was caught red-handed and does not do well in lying. If she had any talent in lying, then perhaps she would have shrugged all of these accusations and she will be able to continue what she's doing. She never had the slightest idea about backup plans and it shows. What I don't understand is how these kinds of people are impatient about getting their own money and spending it on their own purposes. They can always wait and gamble guilt-free but I guess some people like being challenged for whatever reason.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: AicecreaME on January 30, 2023, 02:35:06 PM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)

It's not really a good idea to spend the money isn't yours to begin with. Doing that is just plain disrespect and betrayal to those people who trusted you their money. It's an act of stealing which shouldn't be tolerated. It's just so saddening that the student didn't uphold her values and principles to serve as her moral compass. Acting upon our selfish urges will do us no good. It will just bring troubles and headache. It seems that the student lack discipline and display behaviors of a person addicted which is willing to do and risk anything despite its consequences.

I feel sorry to those student who were robbed if ever the girl won't pay back what she had stolen and used in gambling. It's no joke to earn money nowadays so for sure it'll be hard for them to accept what just happened. Hopefully, next time they will pick the right person to have the authority to handle their class funds.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Plaguedeath on January 30, 2023, 02:43:23 PM
this is a pretty crazy story that i've read, how can he be trusted to handle other students' funds which are quite large, does no one know the history of the student's gambling activity?  
I think the other students doesn't know if she has a gambling addiction since a girl most likely not a gambler or she has been given a duty to hold small amount money and there's no problem until the big one like this.

I feel bad for the school, I think they will be the one who recover the loss and all the teachers need to donate until the graduation funds are enough. This is why student shouldn't hold big amount money, just ask the administration staff to hold it.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: xSkylarx on January 30, 2023, 02:47:27 PM
My first impression about this is that she transferred the money to her personal account, which is very transparent and easy to track. What I mean is that something triggered her to use that money, which was her addiction to the lottery or gambling. Imagine she just transferred it to her personal account and then bet a huge amount, so her purpose really is to use it for the lottery and not on other things. For sure, she is addicted, has lost her money, and is trying to get back her losses. She wins, but again, she loses.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: alastantiger on January 30, 2023, 03:09:23 PM
One of the books (https://biblehub.com/proverbs/22-1.htm) in the Holy Bible says, A good name [earned by honorable behavior, godly wisdom, moral courage, and personal integrity] is more desirable than great riches. Gambling addiction has made most people lose their reputation. And once lost, it is hard to pick up. And it is sad that most of these addicts hide their addiction from the public. People who are addicted to gambling shouldn't be allowed to hold money.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Yatsan on January 30, 2023, 03:43:02 PM
this is a pretty crazy story that i've read, how can he be trusted to handle other students' funds which are quite large, does no one know the history of the student's gambling activity?  
I think the other students doesn't know if she has a gambling addiction since a girl most likely not a gambler or she has been given a duty to hold small amount money and there's no problem until the big one like this.

I feel bad for the school, I think they will be the one who recover the loss and all the teachers need to donate until the graduation funds are enough. This is why student shouldn't hold big amount money, just ask the administration staff to hold it.
There'll be no donation to happen to people who are not really involved such as the teachers, The student's parents would be liable for what their child did, especially if the child has no source of income. Unfortunately, that is the consequence for the parents from allowing their child to play or even be exposed to such activity. Maybe it is lack of guidance or peer influence. Am I blaming the parents?not really but all i know is that one's home would play a huge factor to a child's behavior. If the bad behavior won't be contained, then expect for worse case to happen in the future; it might not be school funds to be used in gambling, think of anything which could be, in order to save everyone's worry.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: freedomgo on January 30, 2023, 08:18:27 PM
How can someone ends up in debt after winning 5 times the lottery?, that was some kind of bruteforce gambling.

Too bad she was using the graduation money, for sure wasn't easy for the students to get that money and was easy for her to gamble those funds, she should go to jail for those actions, it's called karma. And even if she goes to jail the students will not recover that money at all.
That means she’s totally addicted to lottery that she even use the graduation funds to fulfill her desire in gambling. Well, that is an advantage to her because she’s probably the class treasurer but using them for betting, that action really deserves a punishment. And if the school will strictly follow its policy, she might be even banned from school and might not even included in the graduation ceremony. Her parents might not be solely blamed for this but they should be accountable of their daughter’s actions.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: rahmad2nd on January 30, 2023, 08:26:01 PM
this is a pretty crazy story that i've read, how can he be trusted to handle other students' funds which are quite large, does no one know the history of the student's gambling activity?  

Victims must keep pushing to keep this case up because letting her get away with it will only make her happy and will definitely repeat such fraudulent activities in the future.  Gambling or placing bets/lottery with other people's money is the stupidest thing that greedy gamblers do.

In the article that the OP linked in this thread, it doesn't tell in detail how students can be trusted to manage graduation funds. at least, we have an idea that this student has a pretty good track record in his medical school. thus, he can have the trust of his friends to collect graduation funds.

Unfortunately, this student was trapped in his excessive activity regarding lottery betting. although, he has won the lottery 5 times. fatally, the money he used to bet the lottery was the money he collected for graduation funds later. which in the end, this student was charged with allegedly embezzling the funds. although there are no further developments, at least this case has developed at the stage of investigation by the authorities. but in truth, the essence conveyed in this thread is addiction. how addiction has eliminated the student's rational way of thinking, so that it has an impact on things that are detrimental to other people.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Hispo on January 30, 2023, 08:54:55 PM
My first impression about this is that she transferred the money to her personal account, which is very transparent and easy to track. What I mean is that something triggered her to use that money, which was her addiction to the lottery or gambling. Imagine she just transferred it to her personal account and then bet a huge amount, so her purpose really is to use it for the lottery and not on other things. For sure, she is addicted, has lost her money, and is trying to get back her losses. She wins, but again, she loses.

Well, I am not sure how bank accounts work there in your country but here where I live, people cannot know how much money other people have or the history of transactions of others, so in my opinion it would have not been a transparency solution.

if there was a way for people to track the way she used those funds, perhaps they could have known soon enough for her not to spend it all gambling.  

A pity probably those people don't have idea what a multy signature wallet is.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: pixie85 on January 30, 2023, 09:35:01 PM
This type of thing are more common than most people think. Many people steal money and then they try to gamble and win big, so that they can pay it back and just take the profit. Even if they succeed in doing that, it is still illegal.... so if it was found out... they could still be prosecuted.

In the majority of these cases, people might win a little bit of money... but most of them lose more than what they are stealing... and then it grows bigger and bigger, because they do not stop trying.  :o

That's why a single person, especially a student, should not be trusted with that much money.

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the woman had access to approximately R$ 920,000, which would be used to pay for the graduation at the end of this year.

Why wasn't there a second person with access to the account? Why wasn't there a rule that the account has to be accessed by both owners for the money to be moved. There are shared accounts where you need 2 people to agree on each transfer. You can slso set a minimum and maximum withdrawal with or without a notification to other owners of the account.

Sho was stealing the money for weeks if not months by moving it to her personal account and nobody even noticed.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Sanitough on January 30, 2023, 09:41:36 PM
he has been heavily addicted to gambling because he should only chase victory and leave gambling.
She is definitely addicted to gambling, I don't think someone that's not addicted to gambling will gamble with the money that's not his/her own, I don't think their is any assurance that you are going to win when gambling, when gambling the chances of winning and losing is just 50/50, so why will you use the money that's not your own to do what you are not assured of win. Definitely she have being doing it before and probably she have been winning but she is not lucky this time around. She have to be forced to pay back the money so that she can learn her lesson.
Maybe you have a point too. She might be doing this even before but it’s only now that she has been caught because of severe gambling addiction. My worries is on her classmates because now that their funds are lost, then how they will cope up with their upcoming graduation? I just hope the parents of this student involved in gambling will also make an action on how to resolve the problem because whatever their daughter has done, it will always affect them.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: dunfida on January 30, 2023, 09:47:03 PM
he has been heavily addicted to gambling because he should only chase victory and leave gambling.
She is definitely addicted to gambling, I don't think someone that's not addicted to gambling will gamble with the money that's not his/her own, I don't think their is any assurance that you are going to win when gambling, when gambling the chances of winning and losing is just 50/50, so why will you use the money that's not your own to do what you are not assured of win. Definitely she have being doing it before and probably she have been winning but she is not lucky this time around. She have to be forced to pay back the money so that she can learn her lesson.
Maybe you have a point too. She might be doing this even before but it’s only now that she has been caught because of severe gambling addiction. My worries is on her classmates because now that their funds are lost, then how they will cope up with their upcoming graduation? I just hope the parents of this student involved in gambling will also make an action on how to resolve the problem because whatever their daughter has done, it will always affect them.
Totally under your responsibility unless if she's married but if not then she would be always under you and also even if they arent been able to told so which it would really be that initiative for the parents on trying out to

face on what their daughter had committed which i could say that this isnt something a small amount to deal with.If she do have a wealthy family then money issues wont really be that much a problem
but if not then this is where huge argumentation and discussion would happen on how they would be paying up.

As for the admin or faculty then graduation isnt something that could be delayed.Parents would be still trying out to contribute again about on what are those fees and other
payments as long their child would be able to graduate.Things would be dealt up later.


Title: Re: Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds
Post by: Finestream on January 30, 2023, 09:53:48 PM
A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds (https://igamingbrazil.com/en/lottery-en/2023/01/18/medical-student-wins-lottery-5-times-after-embezzling-graduation-funds/)

Is this news from the village of fools?  ;D
200 thousand dollars is a serious amount, was there really no control over it? Also, if their class consisted of 30 students, does each of them contribute $6,500? Maybe I didn’t understand something, but isn’t this a huge amount for such an event?
Yes, that’s also my concern because the amount mentioned is such a lot. You can already build a mansion here in our country using that amount. But if it’s really true, then why the hell that huge amount is only entrusted to a single person? There could be something wrong in here, but whatever it is, that student should have lost her proper thinking and have gone it all in gambling. That’s the effect of severe addiction, everything you do is already out of your control.