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Unfortunately most of users don't know much about betting here. So I think it would be useful to tell them which fraction of their stake they have to put on each outcome to get those profits. Or at least to explain how they have to calculate it. Because if you put the same stake on each outcome while one odds is below 2.00 you won't get any profits if this outcome wins.
Here if I put $100 on Under and Over 60,5. If Over wins @1.813, I will lose $100 for my bet on Under and only win $81.3 for my bet on Over. That is to say, I will lose $81.3 - $100 = -$18.7

So to know how much you should bet on each outcome, you have to apply this formula :

For the first bet : Odds_1st_outcome x Total_Stake / (Odds_1st_outcome + Odds_2nd)

For the second bet : Odds_2nd x Total_Stake / (Odds_1st_outcome + Odds_2nd)
or simpler : Total_Stake - Stake_first_bet

Cool thread op, but you didn't mention how arbitrage betting could lead to accounts getting restricted/limited when they get detected for obvious reasons. You should have mentioned that it isn't a risk-free strategy.

This is helpful, but complicated since there are simpler solutions out there.

Example: https://arbitragecalc.com/

The above site calculates how much you need to place on 2 or more sides in order to ensure a guaranteed profit no matter who wins. Also, betting whole numbers helps your accounts last longer.

Thank you for your link but unfortunately it doesn't take into account pushing bets, and half-winning or half-losing(half-pushing) ones. I'm not an "arber" but from what I see here many opportunities come from bet with handicaps, so I assume there should be opportunities from the asian handicap bets too.

@Ivekzg, no your thread is very good and very interesting, it's generous from you to share that for free. I'm sure it will attract more bettors in the coming days but as I said above they are not many here.

Nice arbitrage bets you got there OP involving crypto casino bookie. I’m having a hard time searching manually for an arbs bet but I have no luck to find one. Those pick with  >1% profit is pretty solid these days since it’s very hard to spot one on crypto bookies.

Just a suggestion. Please include the date of the match for your picks so that user can know if your tipster is still valid or not just by simply looking on this thread without manually checking all the match on the sportsbook. Keep sharing more tipster and make the format as neat as possible to easily understand.

This is a good point and users who want to do arbitrage betting should know there is a risk to get banned. The profit on arbitrage betting is really slow but secure, but I don't know if it is worth the risk to get banned and your balance locked.

By the way, the tips from OP are really good and I appreciate them, I know arbitrage betting was a thing some years ago, but this is the first time a see someone sharing arbitrage bets.

OP i understand your interest on arbitrage bettings and how you would like to always get involved in this kind but be reminded that everything here on the forum goes by rules and regulations regardless of the board involved, this is gambling discussion board quite alright but it will always gives more appropriate meaning to your posting if you can allow others to post before you make the next post, i hope you've heard about post bug or spamming before, it wouldn't make sense if your is regarded as one of them.

With normal beting (gambling) you lose your money longterm. So i think its better to earn some money with arbitrage + bonuses from bookmaker rather than lose money

There sure is. Just came across your thread and will be watching.


Depends how you identify the "risk", Is getting banned by a site that allows you to play there, but only if you're constantly keep losing money, a risk? I'd say that's probably an improvement, at least from financial perspective.

Banning users just for being profitable is not a practice that should be tolerated. Sites guilty of that should be ostracised by the gambling community, and we can't blame OP if that happens to anyone.

You are missing the point. Some sites restrict/limit arbers immediately which implies that you will end up earning small profits overall.

Arbing isn't something new and sites have been limiting arbers from a long time now which makes sense since they don't want to hand out free money. They are trying to earn and survive too at the end of the day.

I would not advise myself to get involved in such bets. And also the big problem is that bookmakers will place a limit on your account, and then you have already placed a bet with bookmaker A and you can no longer place the required amount with bookmaker B. Bookmakers are known for absolutely not wanting these types of players. There are even known situations where they have closed player accounts. Arbitrage betting also has nothing to do with gambling anymore, in principle it is a form of cheating and it is only a matter of time before you get into trouble with it.

Arbitrage betting indeed is a risk free way of betting. I have been doing that myself for some time. But like you say at the end it can be very risky. In every arbitrage bet there is a risk involved when one of the involved bookmakers changes the odds while placing, do not accept your Betsize,....
Since then I got involved more into valuebetting. Value betting can cause downswings but at the end in the long term it should be profitable cause you constantly beat the closing line value. Only downside on the valuebetting also is that after a while betting restrictions and limitations on several bookies can appear

I appreciate you sharing this. I once tried this for more than a month, but I gave up because I did not have enough money to make significant gains and we cannot have a hundred percent win rate on arbitrage. However, seeing this without having to pay anything makes it tempting and interesting. Because there are no issues with cryptocurrency and fiat arbitrage trading, I do not think it is wrong for some resourceful and hardworking gamblers to do the same thing in gambling. However, bookmakers are entitled to limit bets when they consistently lose to someone.

Please continue, great arbitrage tips, keep em coming. Especially interested in tennis betting tips. AO is over, but there's big WTA tournament in Abu Dhabi coming soon (next week?). Would love to receive some arbitrage betting tips!  8)

You should have stated how risky arbitrage/matched betting is and warned gamblers properly as I mentioned earlier op. Some people clearly don't know much about it and could end up getting limited in some markets or losing their accounts.

Pinny/Betfair won't limit accounts, but crypto books will 100% do it once they find out that you are arbing. Tip: Do your research people!

Forget the haters and keep up the good work mate! Do you have a telegram channel or discord where you post the picks?

By betting on both outcomes of a given event (e.g., Marist total score going under or over 60.5), the bettor can guarantee a profit as long as the sum of the odds is greater than 1. The profit margin is the difference between the odds and 1, expressed as a percentage. For example, in the Marist game, the odds of the under outcome (2.27) and the over outcome (1.813) add up to 4.083, which means that the bettor can expect to earn a profit of 0.80% if they place equal bets on both outcome

I agree with you for the smallest or the newest ones, they just try to "survive" at the end of the day as you say. But I totally disagree for the bigger ones. They are far from only surviving. According to one Stake co-founder, Gambling is nothing less than the killer application of cryptocurrencies.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/these-men-are-conquering-crypto-but-are-the-stakes-too-high/news-story/11cb0db4257ec9e703e225f1d91a5b8c https://archive.is/0kRLn

And the money they make from their customers is just unbelievable.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/drake-could-be-key-witness-in-blockbuster-case-about-australian-casino-20230117-p5cd81.html

https://medium.com/@edcraven22/a-look-back-at-2022-what-2023-could-hold-in-store-for-stake-our-community-7d0066f02902

How will they be able to find it out? Could you elaborate please? I thought that bookies don't share information about their users (is it even legit?). How exactly it happens?

For your information, the big ones limit gamblers faster than the smaller books. Why? Because they have better arbing detection protocols. This just goes to show how scared they are of arbers which is why this is how they are trying to survive.

There are many ways in which they can detect arbers since it's not exactly a new strategy and they have been dealing with them for a long time now.

I also want to know the details, I have spent money on some things, like arbitrage there are some bots that do it, but the profits are microscopic, and that does not suit me, because when a bot is paid it is so that good profits can be obtained but This already gives me a lot of distrust, I don't know much about sports, I only know where the best players like Messi and Ronaldo are, so if there is a bot or someone who does arbitration of this type or with tennis it is also convenient for me, but It would be more credible if you put screenshots with the prediction and then show the after, so it is more credible and convincing.

When I was playing arbitrage, I had set the system to a minimum of 3 percent, but in reality I was playing at least 6-7 percent arbitrage

Well done, I didn't pay attention to him even though I saw a big arbitrage. but I bet live and took to 1k. good info gave

That is a good tip and tool for calculation. I guess that the elephant in the room nobody is talking about is the fct tht is nearly impossible to find arbitrage opportunities as the sites are already comparing their stakes and adjusting so that they do not fall for easy tricks. I know someone who was very good at it, but if you are caught they will ban you from the sites.

They play evenly, but probably the hosts will also lack the European teams

It's actually quite easy to spot arbitrage opportunities on a regular basis pre-game and live to be honest, but the returns are miniscule unless you bet humungous amounts which is why most punters avoid them.

Matched/Arbitrage betting is actually a lot more popular in the UK where punters take advantage of deposit bonuses in various sites in order to exploit them and end up earning sizeable profits though they get limited/restricted later on.

It's definitely not that simple. They are probably afraid of the risks involved as I mentioned earlier.

It seems that only those who have a lot of money and are able to bet large amounts can and dare to make an arbitrage bet.
This bet also has a greater risk of losing money than other bets in general.
However, not a few also like and always make Arbitrage bets. I myself don't know why there are many gamblers who like these bets because the chances of getting a profit seem smaller.
I've never been and I don't think I will occasionally try it because there's no interest for me to try it.

You'll never lose money in arbitrage betting as it does not have any risk. However, as you said, you don't have large money to bet, so it will not satisfy you because even if you win, you'll not enjoy small winning.

The only thought here is we can make money from arbitrage betting, however, it's not easy as we think as it requires a lot of work, and not most of us gamblers want that, you know, gamblers just want instant money, with less work, the reason why only a few are successful in gambling.

Well this is not a discussion thread to begin so usually users will just read your tips and move on whether they will bet or ignore the tip. You should summarize all your tips made on a single post per day instead of posting multiple tips per day to easily spot all available tips for the day. I’m surprised that all your post is not yet compressed by the mods since you are violating rules for posting multiple post within a day.

Don’t expect a merit on every tipster that you made because no one ask you to do this at the first place. Just be consistent on providing valuable arbitrage bet tips and soon your work will be appreciated. You are doing this for a week while some other user do tipster thread for many years.

Just make your thread format clear as much as possible to make it more presentable. I might give you merits in the future once I see consistency on your work. Keep up the good work!

Everything about this arbitration issue is very interesting, but don't you think that these processes are already so automatic that they don't give them the opportunity to do so? Previously, you could do that, but it's not profitable either, I've already tried things like that, but the opportunities for that style of earnings are at a zero level, and in the cases where they could be done, there aren't many opportunities, and I don't I know if I'm redundant, but in games it's difficult, where I think it can be done is in sports, but in what way? a result comes out in a matter of seconds and in those seconds only a robot can have the opportunity to do it quickly.

That's why you need a system since you'll be shopping from different sportsbooks. For those who do not have the system, things will surely be hard for them and they will not believe they will ever make money in arbitrage betting. I believe there are companies who offer that kind of system, but honestly, personally I haven't tried it, nor attempt to.

Bots did make it tougher to find these arbs easily, but it's still possible to find plenty of arbs manually though you will need to look harder. It's far easier to spot live arbs when compared to pre-game arbs, but you would need to work harder.

Also, the quickest way to earn big from these arbs is by investing big amounts, but there are several risks involved which is why you should invest only what you're willing to lose.

Of course, I am talking about arbitrage opportunities that stay there for long enough to make the bet and are also significant enough to be worth the effort. An arbitrage of 0.5% is, in my view, not enough to make the play and anything bigger is unlikely to stay in there enough time to be spotted. Also, you need accounts in many sites to catch a few chances regularly.

But isn't that cheating? If a casino realizes that a person has put up a bot that can take advantage of these movements, it is very likely that they will be definitively banned, but it would be something very unfair because they would simply be doing something that is allowed, because I have not seen rules that speak of about arbitration, and when there are no rules, any tool can be legal, there if it is not frowned upon, but I am sure that if someone makes that type of movement they will be caught as a cheater and possibly block all the money they could have made and that dislike.

If it is a separated software to calculate outcome then I guess it won't be detected by a gambling platform. Also, this type of gambling strategy has been existing for a long time now so I guess it would be safe from ban accusations. On the other hand, it won't be saving a player from risk. As others have mentioned, betting on a multiple would be requiring a bettor to use a bigger amount of money than with what's usual. The idea of arbitrage gambling is just to bet on all outcomes. The risk would be with calculations that will balance out losing bet outcomes and winning bet outcome. Also, a bit complicated which might add difficulty for the players.