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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: examplens on January 31, 2023, 01:39:39 PM



Title: Is this the shilling with alt accounts?
Post by: examplens on January 31, 2023, 01:39:39 PM
giving false feedback to yourself is something I don't like, but this user seems persistent. I am pretty sure that the same person is behind these accounts, but I would like to get confirmation from other members as well.

User coinpools offer Stripe account monetization service. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436016.0) classically, newbie accounts suddenly appear who are very satisfied with his service. when I was writing him a reply, I noticed that all three "different" users have the same way of writing. Despite the fact that they did not say much, one thing is obvious, leaving a space before the comma.

Accounts:

coinpools (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2860065)

https://i.ibb.co/pbG37f7/image.png (https://ibb.co/KbR9P2P)

aleealex423 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3285571)

https://i.ibb.co/wKZ7z31/image.png (https://ibb.co/GVf95Bj)

makmanaman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=982762)

https://i.ibb.co/XFWDJxc/image.png (https://ibb.co/P1rMCGq)

there are still no proven elements of fraud here, but I am thinking about the negative tagging of these accounts.


Title: Re: Is this the shilling with alt accounts?
Post by: Welsh on January 31, 2023, 02:52:32 PM
It's a common scheme in the marketplace sections, where users use new accounts in order to give those reading the thread a false perception on whether the service/product is legitimate. So, yeah this isn't unheard of. Although, stronger evidence would be preferred to negative tag them. However, I imagine you'll find a lot of users willing to neutral tag them based on this. Ultimately, it's up to you what you do with the trust system.

Although, you're somewhat right; the space before the comma isn't a common thing to do, although that doesn't necessarily prove anything.


Title: Re: Is this the shilling with alt accounts?
Post by: SFR10 on January 31, 2023, 06:54:25 PM
I am pretty sure that the same person is behind these accounts, but I would like to get confirmation from other members as well.
I couldn't find concrete proof for makmanaman, but the first two users in the above list woke up on the same day [I don't think that was a coincidence]:


one thing is obvious, leaving a space before the comma.
In addition to that, the first two users failed to capitalize the singular "I" that's being used in the middle of their sentences!


Title: Re: Is this the shilling with alt accounts?
Post by: decodx on January 31, 2023, 09:09:05 PM
I am pretty sure that the same person is behind these accounts, but I would like to get confirmation from other members as well.
I couldn't find concrete proof for makmanaman, but the first two users in the above list woke up on the same day [I don't think that was a coincidence]:

Yeah, it would be quite a coincidence for the second member to activate just a few hours after the first and then decide to write his first forum post to vouch for him. Not to mention a similar writing style.


Title: Re: Is this the shilling with alt accounts?
Post by: Rikafip on January 31, 2023, 10:03:15 PM
I couldn't find concrete proof for makmanaman, but the first two users in the above list woke up on the same day [I don't think that was a coincidence]:
To be honest, makmanaman waking up after being offline for 5 and a half years just to corroborate coinpools's story is yet another interesting coincidence. I mean, imagine the chance that he came back to forum just at the time this topic went live. Too much coincidence for my taste.



@examplens I think that this is a pretty clear-cut case of sock puppeting and shilling. They deserve neutral at least, but I don't think that negative would be overkill either.


Title: Conclusion: coinpools makmanaman aleealex423 & jamalaezaz are probably alts.....
Post by: Timelord2067 on January 31, 2023, 10:18:22 PM
makmanaman

8/4/2018 6:00:05 PM    woke up
4/13/2020 11:11:51 PM    woke up
4/15/2021 11:06:05 AM    password reset via email
4/15/2021 11:06:49 AM    woke up
10/27/2022 11:06:33 PM    password reset via email
10/27/2022 11:06:43 PM    woke up


aleealex423

Date Registered:    2021-04-15, 02:28:34
Last Active:    2023-01-20, 22:49:12





SFR10 identifies matching woke-up dates between coinpools and aleealex423

I am pretty sure that the same person is behind these accounts, but I would like to get confirmation from other members as well.
I couldn't find concrete proof for makmanaman, but the first two users in the above list woke up on the same day [I don't think that was a coincidence]:


one thing is obvious, leaving a space before the comma.
In addition to that, the first two users failed to capitalize the singular "I" that's being used in the middle of their sentences!




One trust feedback (one way)

coinpools page

makmanaman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=982762;dt)    2023-01-19    Reference (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436016.0;dt)    He has an amazing service.

No DT trust of anyone.




    jamalaezaz is post #3 in the thread OP mentions:

that's extremely sus  ;)

jamalaezaz is on tg as is coinpools

that's extremely sus  ;)

Its not , its way simplier than you think , we are on 2023 , jesus christ if you cant make some decent money online.

If you want please talk me on tg and i will show you how it works : )




coinpools, makmanaman and jamalaezaz were last online within minutes of each-other:

Thank you , somebody else intrested?

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/15/blob48baa76d965e910b.jpeghttps://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/15/blobf0e96941dc6b659c.jpeghttps://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/15/blob486c2823072effb0.jpeg




Conclusion:

coinpools, makmanaman, aleealex423 and  jamalaezaz are probably all alts.


Title: Re: Is this the shilling with alt accounts?
Post by: dkbit98 on February 01, 2023, 01:45:31 PM
giving false feedback to yourself is something I don't like, but this user seems persistent. I am pretty sure that the same person is behind these accounts, but I would like to get confirmation from other members as well.
It's always suspicious to me whenever I see newbies posting in topics I like, and we all saw similar things happening in forum before.
Many times we can't prove any connection between accounts, but it's more than obvious what is happening... similar writing style, short text, extra spaces around comma like posted below, etc.
All this accounts are controlled by the same person, and I would consider reporting their posts for spam and low quality.

No i am not a liar , i uploaded video here
Its fine if you believe that , but you dont have to have so much hate in you.
I dont know what happens later , but for the moment he is very true on his words.


Title: Re: Is this the shilling with alt accounts?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 01, 2023, 10:11:53 PM
I couldn't find concrete proof for makmanaman, but the first two users in the above list woke up on the same day [I don't think that was a coincidence]:
To be honest, makmanaman waking up after being offline for 5 and a half years just to corroborate coinpools's story is yet another interesting coincidence. I mean, imagine the chance that he came back to forum just at the time this topic went live. Too much coincidence for my taste.



@examplens I think that this is a pretty clear-cut case of sock puppeting and shilling. They deserve neutral at least, but I don't think that negative would be overkill either.
Was actually going to suggest the same after going through some details of those accounts, I think they all deserve a neutral tag at least, to warn users dealing with any of those accounts to exercise some carefulness.
I think the neutral tag is enough for now, since there haven't been any report of any type on any of those accounts relating to scam, and neither is there any evidence of attempted scam on any of the accounts, a neutral trust as a warning to the owner of the accounts and also to users dealing with with the owner of the accounts would be more befitting at this time.