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i have been investing in bitcoin via a website, I'm now thinking its a scam. I got to the magic number for me to withdraw in which they finally mentioned they take 10% of the total account balance for me to withdraw. This reduction essential meant I'm now below the magic number, now they have said 10% of the rest of the profits around about another $400, and then ill be able to withdraw.

When i send the bitcoin it instantly transfers to bc1q8yja3gw33ngd8aunmfr4hj820adc9nlsv0syvz this wallet, can anyone shed light on this?

the website is called Bonzer trade.

Most likely you are already being scammed. First of all, No legit exchange will deduct you a 10% withdrawal fee because transaction fee usually just cost fixed minimal amount on crypto. Second you withdraw instantly your funds on unknown address that you didn’t provide the moment you click withdraw is red flag already.

How much money you deposit in there?

From your stories, yes it looks like you have been scammed, where are you get the website in the first place?? Did someone DM you on telegram or Discord and they talk about High Yield Investment Program if so it total scam. and Unfortunately, you maybe lose your money  :'(

As far as I know, there is no Bitcoin Investment program especially depositing a bitcoin into a specific website or address.

and after I check here https://mempool.space/address/bc1q8yja3gw33ngd8aunmfr4hj820adc9nlsv0syvz the address is found on BitcoinAbuse https://www.bitcoinabuse.com/reports?page=18

It’s a ‘trading fee’ so charged 10% for them trading on my behalf. The money I deposit going into a crypto exchange wallet kucoin but my worry is if I put the last amount in I’ve lost everything.

I have put a significant sum of money intro this exchange.

This seems like an investment site and I would have believed that you ought to have read their conditions before investing also, I am thinking instead of investing on sites like this, I would have bought Bitcoin directly from the exchange and hold. When you were registering didn't you enter your own BTC wallet address or didn't you create one on the platform? cos from your statement it does look like you don't know that wallet address and that is not a good sign. they say they have that support, so why not reach out to them for assistance?

On exchanges, taker and maker fees are in percent but withdrawal fee usually is a fixed number like you can see there.

• Cryptowisser.com's Exchange List (https://www.cryptowisser.com/exchanges/)

If they say they always get 10% of your withdrawal value, it sounds weird and more like scam. In addition, they intentionally asked you to deposit more to be eligible for withdrawal, it's a scam confirmation. It is a similar scam like that one: Beware of "Pay original fine" - a scam method (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279288.0)

It is not usually wrong. Exchanges nowadays don't store their funds and customer funds in hot wallets. So when customers make deposits, exchanges will have automatic tools to move it to their cold wallets.

However, in your case, it is like scammers move it to another addresses.

The address is reported for fraudulent attempts. Scam Alert: This address has been reported as fraudulent (4 times) (https://www.bitcoinwhoswho.com/address/bc1q8yja3gw33ngd8aunmfr4hj820adc9nlsv0syvz)

That is the Kucoin hot wallet address based on the list of the addresses they control, see here (3rd row in the table) (https://www.kucoin.com/blog/transparency-and-trust-a-detailed-list-of-kucoin-s-wallets). In conclusion, the scammer gives you a deposit address that is actually associated with the Kucoin account. Just hope that this scammer has KYCed and Kucoin support doesn't mind helping your problem, at least freeze the account.

What is KYC, I’ve already emailed them to discuss this as I was obviously concerned.

This is not the scammer address, but an address belonging to the KuCoin Exchange Wallet platform.

Can you give us some details such as:

• Scam site URL?
• How much bitcoin have you deposited?
• withdrawal transaction address? Because if site gives you this address, it means they didn't withdraw.
• If you have deposited, give us the address you made the deposit to.

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Is this the site you referee for https://bonzertrade.com/?

If it's bonzertrade(dot)com you can be sure you got scammed.
A wordpress website without any info, fake reviews with pictures grabbed all over the internet, no adress, no contact, unable to spell even basic words like "METHODLOGY", but at the same time claiming shit like this:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/20/blob1cab75fe60401886.png


Yeah, lol, ToS is just laughable, put there only to scare people off if they dare to confront the ones running the scam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer
Basically, you'll be handing some scammers your documents and most likely you're not going to see a penny back.

So, how did you end up on this website?

That just means the scammer is sending the funds to KuCoin automatically, which is dumb because they can lock the scammer's funds and ask for KYC anyway.


KYC means legal documents that you have to send to them like passport. Do not send them anything as these guys will just sell your documents on the darknet (identity theft).

Like I said very naive when I initially invested, and essentially a syndicate, group of us invested and were all out of pocket it seems

I can't understand why to buy bitcoin to use some strange and dubious websites? Why are you complicating your life when it can be done on a variety of proven and reliable platforms. Do you really not value your money that you are ready to part with it so frivolously.

Before investing in btc, learn how to do it safely. It is better to spend time studying the necessary questions on the forum than to waste your money and give it to scammers.

You somehow found a forum when you had a problem, but why didn't you bother to find a forum and seek advice from other users before it occurred?

Don't repeat his mistakes.

Sorry for your loss. It’s obvious you have been scammed, I hope it’s a small amount of money you lost it will be very painful if you lost a fortune. You learnt the hard way, now you know better, tell your friends that the investment is a scam so they do not continue to send more money to the scammers.

If you refer to my question.
I mean the scammer has verified his Kucoin account by submitting legal identities, (learn here (https://www.kucoin.com/support/360015102254)), this means that Kucoin has the identity of the owner of the wallet address (the scammer's address before being swept into a hot wallet).

So, I hope that Kucoin can help you to request that identity information for you to proceed to legal steps (if you want).

Who do you email, Kucoin or Bonzer?

these all might help you and other bitcoiner's to determine this is scam or not
1. this website https://bonzertrade.com/ is very heavy and lot of animations which is to scam newbie with there good interface, good exchange is known by it's user experience not by heavy animations
here you can see very attractive good looking interface :  https://ibb.co/TtPPSzp

2. this website is hosted on very cheap and third party hosting provider which seems like a small hosting provider
you can see in this image , it provide cheap hosting and there is clearly visible that this website is using cheap web hosting plan ,
if they want to build a brand than they should make their own hosting or host there website on some good hosting provider's like godaddy , hostinger.etc.
here you can see hosting provider and cheap : https://ibb.co/f4x9SDp
                                                                    https://ibb.co/JBDF8rp
3. if this is scam than it's a massive scam in crypto, transaction over $5billion ,
here you can see lot of pending transactions of big amounts: https://ibb.co/KX5Q7p4
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q8yja3gw33ngd8aunmfr4hj820adc9nlsv0syvz

4. here contact us page, which is not good and not loaded properly
compared to their transactions, if OP provided right address

https://ibb.co/Tc2gQmN

5. hosting provider had good reputation but they also provide cheap hosting, they are famous for cheap web hosting
https://ibb.co/sQbH6DP

https://ibb.co/nbdzc3T


may be i not right these is not advice or i am tryping to destroy there beand just sharing some information which save any newbie from scam

Thank you for all your kind responses, unfortunately it does seem it’s a scam how would I report this website to ensure this doesn’t happen to anyone else?

You contact
- domain register, Namesilo,  abuse@namesilo.com https://www.namesilo.com/report_abuse.php
- actual hosting company OVH GmbH,  absue@ohv.net https://www.ovh.com/abuse/#!/
You file a complaint with your local pice or cyber crime branch if you have one.

That being said don't expect anything from that domain registrar, maybe the host will do something but that depends on what proof you send them and your overall story. For the police, they will have to act, but with the time it will take they would have already abandoned the website by then.

What stompix suggested above. Also, some members said that the coins were sent to an address belonging to Kucoin, so I'd recommend reaching out to them and informing them about what's going on. It's unlikely that they will send the coins back to you but there is a high chance that they will seize it.
You can also create a scam accusation thread on this board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) to raise awareness about this scam website and warn as many people as possible.

and also anyone can tell why images are not visible on first post


Now it's right !!

Newbies can't post images: Images in posts disabled for newbies (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1172918.0)
You can post once you reach junior rank or you pay for a copper membership  (http://Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images)
For a junior rank, you need 30 activity and 1 merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0) (I've awarded you one since you don't look like a spammer)