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Title: Russian world order
Post by: Alik Bahshi on February 11, 2023, 12:57:35 PM
Alik Bakhshi

Russian world order


 
   
     On the Internet, on my article “Who are they Rashists” (1), a certain Russian supporter of Putin in a comment quite frankly explained the need for wars, through which Russia seized the lands of other peoples:
“If you are at least superficially familiar with world history, you should know that wars between the so-called civilized peoples and tribes of small peoples were always and everywhere. Why do you blame only Russia for this?
Moreover, these accusations are completely unfair. Russia was forced to wage these wars because these small and such peace-loving peoples constantly raided the Russian outskirts, killed, robbed, took Russian people into captivity and then sold them in the slave markets of the settlements of such "nice and peace-loving" highlanders. Europeans were not attacked by small nations. The Europeans themselves traveled "to distant seas" to find and rob these peoples. And after that you are indignant at the aggressiveness of Russia, but calmly perceive the aggressiveness of the Europeans. Is it fair?”

    A small clarification, not the highlanders of the Caucasus descended from the mountains, but the Russians came to them in the mountains and by no means with bread and salt. (2)
     
   The commentary presents the great-power worldview of the Russian people, and Putin is a sought-after conductor who embodies this worldview. How can one not recall the well-known expression of Count Joseph de Maistre from 1811, "Every people has the government that it deserves." Remarkably, the count meant precisely the Russian people.
   
   I have included the full text of the comment. What an exact justification for the Evil emanating from Russia and its people! The trouble with the Russian people is that they live not according to the law, but according to justice, and everyone has their own justice, while the law is for everyone. The law in Russia, according to the well-known saying, that drawbar: where you turn, it went there. In this “justice”, which justifies the war in order to conquer another people, the denseness of the Russian view of the world order looms, and the Russian people live in the past, not keeping pace with the development of civilization. What Putin is doing today is essentially the steps of Hitler. (3) Having discarded the imperial ideology, the peoples of Germany and Japan have achieved tremendous success, leaving the victorious country Russia far behind. The peoples of Europe realized that prosperity must be sought not in conquering a neighbor, but in free labor. Today, borders in Europe are not an obstacle and, being only symbolic, ensure prosperity and peaceful coexistence.

    Colonialism for European countries is the last century. Russia, as it lagged behind the West by 150-200 years, continues to lag behind without narrowing this gap in the least, and no war will help this gap. In our time, it is not the presence of colonies in a country that determines the well-being of its people, but the ability of the people to work rationally in conditions of freedom, under the protection of laws that are equal for all citizens without exception. A striking example of this is Switzerland, a country that never had colonies. Once, while in Switzerland, I watched a farmer mow the grass, wiping his sweaty forehead. But he could, if he wanted to, hire an emigrant, but immediately thought if the farmers hired emigrants instead of themselves, then Switzerland would certainly become similar to some African country. I have seen how Swiss cheese makers and glassblowers work, but I have never seen emigrants among them. You can't build a country with someone else's hands. Or did Holland, a former colonial power, become impoverished with the loss of its colonies? Of course, the national mentality plays an important role here. If in the West the well-being of a neighbor causes a desire to achieve it, then in a Russian it causes an irresistible desire to destroy. I always refer to the experience of Finland, once the former provincial colony of Russia, in which the miserable Chukhons lived. But as soon as the Finns achieved freedom from the Russians, as a country that has no oil, no gas, no gold, there is nothing at all that Russia is rich in, except for the people who know how to work, it became the first country in terms of welfare. The Finns cherished this freedom, and when in 1939 the Russians treacherously attacked Finland in order to return the Finns to their empire, the whole people, including women, stood up as an insurmountable wall for the invaders. Today, a similar situation is observed in Ukraine.

     Russians with their "Russian world" bring devastation and decline. One of the reasons that prompted the Russians to attack Ukraine was to prevent Ukrainians from getting better lives. The same reason lies in Russia's threats to the former Baltic colonies. Azerbaijan, which became independent and, as a result, got the opportunity to manage its natural resources, has achieved a lot in the field of economic development, and Baku has become a beautiful city that embodies the spirit of East and West. One must think that the countries of the former Russian Central Asia are not eager to return to the bosom of the empire. Today, Russia with its “Russian world”, which the revanchist Putin wants to reproduce again in the former colonies, is shying away like the plague.

The "Russian world order" that Putin wants to present as something new is actually a return to the past.

1. Who are they rashists. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/38049.html
2. Chechnya and the road to power, or the revival of the empire according to Putin. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/2151.html
3. The ghost of Hitler haunts Europe. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/38049.html
 
      02/10/2023


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: af_newbie on February 12, 2023, 03:47:20 PM
You are absolutely right about Russian imperialism.

Rashists don't care about other nations and are prepared to annihilate them if necessary.

In their mind, they are doing the conquered peoples a favour.

Nazism is all well in Russia, they can deny all they want.

Actions matter.

PS. In the end, I think RF will lose a bunch of territories.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 12, 2023, 04:48:15 PM
You are absolutely right about Russian imperialism.

Rashists don't care about other nations and are prepared to annihilate them if necessary.

In their mind, they are doing the conquered peoples a favour.

Nazism is all well in Russia, they can deny all they want.

Actions matter.

PS. In the end, I think RF will lose a bunch of territories.

Russian imperialism is almost nothing when compared with US imperialism.

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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Alik Bahshi on February 13, 2023, 10:15:35 AM
You are absolutely right about Russian imperialism.

Rashists don't care about other nations and are prepared to annihilate them if necessary.

In their mind, they are doing the conquered peoples a favour.

Nazism is all well in Russia, they can deny all they want.

Actions matter.

PS. In the end, I think RF will lose a bunch of territories.

Russian imperialism is almost nothing when compared with US imperialism.

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Imperialism is from the word empire, and the empire is Russia. The Russians do not hide this and even brag about it.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 13, 2023, 10:23:09 AM


Russian imperialism is almost nothing when compared with US imperialism.

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Imperialism is from the word empire, and the empire is Russia. The Russians do not hide this and even brag about it.

Where is Russia? Over there, maybe by you. Of course, they have a few spots in the world where they are dabbling in imperialism a little. But where is the US pushing imperialism? In Ukraine, against even Russia, besides all over the rest of the world.

Everyone wants to make a profit. That's what's behind imperialism. Russian imperialism is almost nothing when compared with that of the US. But, the US is making Russia angry enough to start pushing back against US imperialism.

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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Gyfts on February 13, 2023, 03:50:30 PM


Russian imperialism is almost nothing when compared with US imperialism.

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Imperialism is from the word empire, and the empire is Russia. The Russians do not hide this and even brag about it.

Where is Russia? Over there, maybe by you. Of course, they have a few spots in the world where they are dabbling in imperialism a little. But where is the US pushing imperialism? In Ukraine, against even Russia, besides all over the rest of the world.

Everyone wants to make a profit. That's what's behind imperialism. Russian imperialism is almost nothing when compared with that of the US. But, the US is making Russia angry enough to start pushing back against US imperialism.

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By imperialism, you mean civilizing barbaric and archaic societies who, historically, couldn't figure out how to build a successful country. Imperialism is bad when it's your own country that's victim of course but over time countries imperialized by democracies don't fair so bad. The British Empire doesn't have a shabby record, in fact. Ukraine would rather be imperialized by the U.S. than they would Russia in retrospect, wouldn't they?


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: yhiaali3 on February 13, 2023, 05:03:14 PM
This is indeed backward thinking. The Europeans' occupation of colonies in the distant past does not justify Russia's occupation of countries in the present time.
Also, European countries knew their mistake and stopped colonizing other countries a long time ago. War brings nothing but ruin, destruction and human suffering.
If every person thinks of solving his problems with his neighbors by force, then this world will turn into a big forest and the law of the jungle will prevail, where the strong eat the weak. This society is absolutely inhumane.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 13, 2023, 05:12:18 PM

Where is Russia? Over there, maybe by you. Of course, they have a few spots in the world where they are dabbling in imperialism a little. But where is the US pushing imperialism? In Ukraine, against even Russia, besides all over the rest of the world.

Everyone wants to make a profit. That's what's behind imperialism. Russian imperialism is almost nothing when compared with that of the US. But, the US is making Russia angry enough to start pushing back against US imperialism.

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By imperialism, you mean civilizing barbaric and archaic societies who, historically, couldn't figure out how to build a successful country. Imperialism is bad when it's your own country that's victim of course but over time countries imperialized by democracies don't fair so bad. The British Empire doesn't have a shabby record, in fact. Ukraine would rather be imperialized by the U.S. than they would Russia in retrospect, wouldn't they?

By 'imperialism', I mean what the standard meaning of imperialism really is - https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=imperialism+meaning.

Ukraine is a country that is divided. You can tell by the millions of people who fled the war, because they couldn't keep US imperialism from turning her into a war machine.

The US Civil War is what paved its way towards imperialism. Then, in the early 1900s the Federal Reserve Bank was set in place without the people even realizing what happened. This was the beginning of the real US imperialism. Over the years, millions of Americans have died because of the banking imperialism... through loan foreclosures and other things the banks do.

In Britain the same thing has happened. But the start of the people to move against imperialism there, began with the Magna Carta, first created in 1215, and updated several times in the following hundreds of years to the present. The Magna Carta is the only thing that is keeping freedom for the people in Britain right now, and it is gradually being replaced by banking imperialism, and the ignorance of the people regarding how to use it. As in the US, multitudes of people have died and lost property because of the banking system.

At least Russia is straight-forward in its limited amount of imperialism. The US and Britain are underhanded with their sneaky banking system approach. Banking system rule is based on quasi-contracts, one sided contracts, like when you apply for a drivers license, and sign some paperwork, without anybody in government ever signing the other part of the contract.

The bottom-line point is, now it is the world banking money system imperialism that is using the US and Nato to fight Russian imperialism. The second point is that you don't even understand this.

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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Alik Bahshi on February 14, 2023, 07:10:02 PM
This is indeed backward thinking. The Europeans' occupation of colonies in the distant past does not justify Russia's occupation of countries in the present time.
Also, European countries knew their mistake and stopped colonizing other countries a long time ago. War brings nothing but ruin, destruction and human suffering.
If every person thinks of solving his problems with his neighbors by force, then this world will turn into a big forest and the law of the jungle will prevail, where the strong eat the weak. This society is absolutely inhumane.

You are absolutely right! To turn to the past of civilization is the greatest stupidity.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 14, 2023, 11:28:49 PM
This is indeed backward thinking. The Europeans' occupation of colonies in the distant past does not justify Russia's occupation of countries in the present time.
Also, European countries knew their mistake and stopped colonizing other countries a long time ago. War brings nothing but ruin, destruction and human suffering.
If every person thinks of solving his problems with his neighbors by force, then this world will turn into a big forest and the law of the jungle will prevail, where the strong eat the weak. This society is absolutely inhumane.

What justifies Russia's occupation of part of Ukraine is that the Ukrainian military - at the request of the US - was killing Russians and Ukrainians in the Donbas and other areas, starting at least in 2014 if not earlier. At the start of the formal war in February, 2022, Russia wasn't after any more than a formal stopping of this Ukraine killing machine. But now that Ukraine has become obstinate, Russia will go all the way. No more Ukraine... and maybe no more US and Nato.

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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: af_newbie on February 15, 2023, 07:33:05 AM
This is indeed backward thinking. The Europeans' occupation of colonies in the distant past does not justify Russia's occupation of countries in the present time.
Also, European countries knew their mistake and stopped colonizing other countries a long time ago. War brings nothing but ruin, destruction and human suffering.
If every person thinks of solving his problems with his neighbors by force, then this world will turn into a big forest and the law of the jungle will prevail, where the strong eat the weak. This society is absolutely inhumane.

What justifies Russia's occupation of part of Ukraine is that the Ukrainian military - at the request of the US - was killing Russians and Ukrainians in the Donbas and other areas, starting at least in 2014 if not earlier. At the start of the formal war in February, 2022, Russia wasn't after any more than a formal stopping of this Ukraine killing machine. But now that Ukraine has become obstinate, Russia will go all the way. No more Ukraine... and maybe no more US and Nato.

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Wrong!!! Russian troops attacked Ukraine on Feb 27th, 2014 by seizing strategic sites in Crimea.
Then in March, they moved their army into Donbas and Luhansk and started terrorist activities there.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 15, 2023, 01:40:03 PM
This is indeed backward thinking. The Europeans' occupation of colonies in the distant past does not justify Russia's occupation of countries in the present time.
Also, European countries knew their mistake and stopped colonizing other countries a long time ago. War brings nothing but ruin, destruction and human suffering.
If every person thinks of solving his problems with his neighbors by force, then this world will turn into a big forest and the law of the jungle will prevail, where the strong eat the weak. This society is absolutely inhumane.

What justifies Russia's occupation of part of Ukraine is that the Ukrainian military - at the request of the US - was killing Russians and Ukrainians in the Donbas and other areas, starting at least in 2014 if not earlier. At the start of the formal war in February, 2022, Russia wasn't after any more than a formal stopping of this Ukraine killing machine. But now that Ukraine has become obstinate, Russia will go all the way. No more Ukraine... and maybe no more US and Nato.

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Wrong!!! Russian troops attacked Ukraine on Feb 27th, 2014 by seizing strategic sites in Crimea.
Then in March, they moved their army into Donbas and Luhansk and started terrorist activities there.

Right! Ukraine wouldn't let the people of Crimea go back to Russia voluntarily, so Russia simply helped them.

The history of Crimea for over 100 years was a bouncing around between different factions and groups that made up what was or became the Soviet Union.

It's almost the same as what happened in the Donbas in Feb., 2022... Russia saving people who want to be part of Russia, but Ukraine would rather kill them than let them be Russian, which many of them were for years before.

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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: af_newbie on February 15, 2023, 03:44:36 PM
This is indeed backward thinking. The Europeans' occupation of colonies in the distant past does not justify Russia's occupation of countries in the present time.
Also, European countries knew their mistake and stopped colonizing other countries a long time ago. War brings nothing but ruin, destruction and human suffering.
If every person thinks of solving his problems with his neighbors by force, then this world will turn into a big forest and the law of the jungle will prevail, where the strong eat the weak. This society is absolutely inhumane.

What justifies Russia's occupation of part of Ukraine is that the Ukrainian military - at the request of the US - was killing Russians and Ukrainians in the Donbas and other areas, starting at least in 2014 if not earlier. At the start of the formal war in February, 2022, Russia wasn't after any more than a formal stopping of this Ukraine killing machine. But now that Ukraine has become obstinate, Russia will go all the way. No more Ukraine... and maybe no more US and Nato.

8)

Wrong!!! Russian troops attacked Ukraine on Feb 27th, 2014 by seizing strategic sites in Crimea.
Then in March, they moved their army into Donbas and Luhansk and started terrorist activities there.

Right! Ukraine wouldn't let the people of Crimea go back to Russia voluntarily, so Russia simply helped them.

The history of Crimea for over 100 years was a bouncing around between different factions and groups that made up what was or became the Soviet Union.

It's almost the same as what happened in the Donbas in Feb., 2022... Russia saving people who want to be part of Russia, but Ukraine would rather kill them than let them be Russian, which many of them were for years before.

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Wrong again.

It was Russia that wanted Crimea and Donbas territory to be part of Russia.

Not the people. Russia sent its troops to both regions of Ukraine to seize control over the territory of its neighbour.

If the people of Donbas did not want to live in Ukraine, they could just immigrate to Russia.

Many Russians leave Russia today because they do not want to live in Russia, nobody is invading Russia because some
of its citizens do not want to live in Russia or be part of Russia.

Americans are not invading Russia 'to protect the LGBT communities or people fleeing mobilization' there, are they?


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: yhiaali3 on February 15, 2023, 06:47:46 PM
This political debate never ends, each side thinks it is right and makes the necessary justifications to prove that it is right and that the other side is wrong.

In general, I see that the people of this region have fallen victim to the power struggle between the United States and Russia. The first victim in all this struggle is these poor people who only wish to live a quiet life in peace.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 15, 2023, 09:05:58 PM

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Right! Ukraine wouldn't let the people of Crimea go back to Russia voluntarily, so Russia simply helped them.

The history of Crimea for over 100 years was a bouncing around between different factions and groups that made up what was or became the Soviet Union.

It's almost the same as what happened in the Donbas in Feb., 2022... Russia saving people who want to be part of Russia, but Ukraine would rather kill them than let them be Russian, which many of them were for years before.

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Wrong again.

It was Russia that wanted Crimea and Donbas territory to be part of Russia. - When countries like Ukraine start shelling and killing their own people like they were in the Donbas, Donbas people were thankful when Russia moved in to protect them.

Not the people. Russia sent its troops to both regions of Ukraine to seize control over the territory of its neighbour. - That's the way to protect the people there.

If the people of Donbas did not want to live in Ukraine, they could just immigrate to Russia. - But if they want to live in Ukraine, why move to Russia? They shouldn't have to get murdered by the Ukraine military just because they want to stay on their homestead.

Many Russians leave Russia today because they do not want to live in Russia, nobody is invading Russia because some
of its citizens do not want to live in Russia or be part of Russia. - Right. Russia isn't killing off people in Russia. It was Ukraine that was killing off Ukrainians in Ukraine.

Americans are not invading Russia 'to protect the LGBT communities or people fleeing mobilization' there, are they? - The US is using the Ukraine government to attempt to take over Russia. Don't you realize that the West already sent over $32 billion in armaments and money to Ukraine. They want the Russian land, and they are using Ukraine to attempt to get it.

Ukraine and Russia both made the same big mistake. They believed US leader lies. The Ukraine has already essentially been destroyed because of the war this caused, and the world just might have to put up with WW3 because Russia listened to the US.


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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Alik Bahshi on February 15, 2023, 09:15:22 PM
This is indeed backward thinking. The Europeans' occupation of colonies in the distant past does not justify Russia's occupation of countries in the present time.
Also, European countries knew their mistake and stopped colonizing other countries a long time ago. War brings nothing but ruin, destruction and human suffering.
If every person thinks of solving his problems with his neighbors by force, then this world will turn into a big forest and the law of the jungle will prevail, where the strong eat the weak. This society is absolutely inhumane.

What justifies Russia's occupation of part of Ukraine is that the Ukrainian military - at the request of the US - was killing Russians and Ukrainians in the Donbas and other areas, starting at least in 2014 if not earlier. At the start of the formal war in February, 2022, Russia wasn't after any more than a formal stopping of this Ukraine killing machine. But now that Ukraine has become obstinate, Russia will go all the way. No more Ukraine... and maybe no more US and Nato.

8)

Wrong!!! Russian troops attacked Ukraine on Feb 27th, 2014 by seizing strategic sites in Crimea.
Then in March, they moved their army into Donbas and Luhansk and started terrorist activities there.
There is only one explanation for this - Putin wants to seize Ukraine. Following Ukraine, most likely will be Moldova and Kazakhstan.
   


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Hispo on February 16, 2023, 04:47:53 PM
There is only one explanation for this - Putin wants to seize Ukraine. Following Ukraine, most likely will be Moldova and Kazakhstan.
  

If this was true then it would imply the Kremlin would be seeking to recover as much territory as possible from the defunct Soviet Union, which I personally believe it won't happen. Putin would need much many years to accomplish that through decades of soft conflicts.

He would need to harden the authoritarian nature of the Russian state and then leave his party to continue that legacy, even after his death.  


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Alik Bahshi on February 17, 2023, 07:02:16 AM
There is only one explanation for this - Putin wants to seize Ukraine. Following Ukraine, most likely will be Moldova and Kazakhstan.
  

If this was true then it would imply the Kremlin would be seeking to recover as much territory as possible from the defunct Soviet Union, which I personally believe it won't happen. Putin would need much many years to accomplish that through decades of soft conflicts.

He would need to harden the authoritarian nature of the Russian state and then leave his party to continue that legacy, even after his death.  

  Alas, Putin is not a member of any party. He is like a king who does not need a party. His party is the entire Russian people.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: montaga on February 17, 2023, 07:32:28 AM
Imagine being so beyond time and still believe in a empire. Free humans neither bow down to a emperor, party, club-boss, doctrina, czar, tycoon....or be lead by any other cult figure.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 17, 2023, 07:48:16 AM
Imagine being so beyond time and still believe in a empire. Free humans neither bow down to a emperor, party, club-boss, doctrina, czar, tycoon....or be lead by any other cult figure.

Except if they love his propaganda.     8)


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Smartvirus on February 17, 2023, 10:40:04 AM
Imagine being so beyond time and still believe in a empire. Free humans neither bow down to a emperor, party, club-boss, doctrina, czar, tycoon....or be lead by any other cult figure.
That's just the point. We are way past eras of colonisation or subduing a people by waging wars. That savagery has gone with the 20th century and we've been more better since then, looking out for civilised means to archiving a goal.
I can try to see reasons why a nation would wage war when peaceful resolutions isn't reached in order to protect its borders from invasion but, not for the purpose of editing the maps and sourcing for resources.

Talking about slavery and a people, I think Africa ought to say the most here but no, it's history and trying to do anything other than restitution and forging ahead would be issues of course, aggression and retaliation. We don't need these in our world today.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 17, 2023, 05:06:51 PM
Imagine being so beyond time and still believe in a empire. Free humans neither bow down to a emperor, party, club-boss, doctrina, czar, tycoon....or be lead by any other cult figure.
That's just the point. We are way past eras of colonisation or subduing a people by waging wars. That savagery has gone with the 20th century and we've been more better since then, looking out for civilised means to archiving a goal.
I can try to see reasons why a nation would wage war when peaceful resolutions isn't reached in order to protect its borders from invasion but, not for the purpose of editing the maps and sourcing for resources.

Talking about slavery and a people, I think Africa ought to say the most here but no, it's history and trying to do anything other than restitution and forging ahead would be issues of course, aggression and retaliation. We don't need these in our world today.


We see that nations go to war with the Ukraine war.

We see that reasons why some nations DON'T go to war is that, if they can subdue other nations peacefully, they can reap greater profits off the already-in-place superstructure of the nations they conquer, rather than having to rebuild a superstructure of a destroyed nation. It hasn't stopped. It has always been this way throughout history. It only rested for a while. That's why it isn't clearly evident.

Here is how the world banking system is trying to conquer the world without war. Africa seems to be their test-bed of their latest financial construction.


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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Alik Bahshi on February 17, 2023, 10:58:29 PM
Imagine being so beyond time and still believe in a empire. Free humans neither bow down to a emperor, party, club-boss, doctrina, czar, tycoon....or be lead by any other cult figure.
That's just the point. We are way past eras of colonisation or subduing a people by waging wars. That savagery has gone with the 20th century and we've been more better since then, looking out for civilised means to archiving a goal.


Unfortunately, Russians live in the last century.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 17, 2023, 11:52:46 PM
We are finding out that the Russian world order is far stronger than the Alik Bahshi word order.

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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Alik Bahshi on February 18, 2023, 08:26:48 PM
We are finding out that the Russian world order is far stronger than the Alik Bahshi word order.

Nonsense, words in any order and having meaning are always stronger than any order, especially Russian.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 19, 2023, 11:24:15 AM
We are finding out that the Russian world order is far stronger than the Alik Bahshi word order.

Nonsense, words in any order and having meaning are always stronger than any order, especially Russian.

Two people are in a duel. They stand facing each other. One has a gun. The other has words. Who wins?

Words aren't powerful except in two circumstances:
1. They are the truth, and people believe them;
2. People believe they are the truth even when they are lies.

So, it isn't the words that are strong. It's the people that are strong. The idea that words are strong is a lie. If there seems to be strength in words, it's because the people wielding the words are strong.

You can see in the war how many people are dying... way more Ukrainians than Russians. This simply means that when Russians use words to give orders, their word order is stronger than Ukrainian word order. In the same way, Russian world order is stronger than Ukrainian world order.

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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Cryptock on February 19, 2023, 08:43:00 PM
We are finding out that the Russian world order is far stronger than the Alik Bahshi word order.

Nonsense, words in any order and having meaning are always stronger than any order, especially Russian.

Two people are in a duel. They stand facing each other. One has a gun. The other has words. Who wins?

Words aren't powerful except in two circumstances:
1. They are the truth, and people believe them;
2. People believe they are the truth even when they are lies.

So, it isn't the words that are strong. It's the people that are strong. The idea that words are strong is a lie. If there seems to be strength in words, it's because the people wielding the words are strong.

You can see in the war how many people are dying... way more Ukrainians than Russians. This simply means that when Russians use words to give orders, their word order is stronger than Ukrainian word order. In the same way, Russian world order is stronger than Ukrainian world order.

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More than 40 thousand Turkish people died in one min. More than thousand people dyed in the Russian and Ukraine war.
So many people died during Covid. What are war lord looking for? There are natural disaster and then comes the war lord. May we all witness the dawn of the peace.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: DrBeer on February 20, 2023, 06:02:23 PM
This political debate never ends, each side thinks it is right and makes the necessary justifications to prove that it is right and that the other side is wrong.

In general, I see that the people of this region have fallen victim to the power struggle between the United States and Russia. The first victim in all this struggle is these poor people who only wish to live a quiet life in peace.

Now I will express my opinion, and you try to refute it :)
Russia and Ukraine pushed China!

And as soon as you reasonably and 100% prove that this is stupidity, I will tell you what the Moscow Khaganate / USSR / Russia is, and who really started the war in Ukraine :)ne :)


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: yhiaali3 on February 20, 2023, 07:41:14 PM
And as soon as you reasonably and 100% prove that this is stupidity, I will tell you what the Moscow Khaganate / USSR / Russia is, and who really started the war in Ukraine :)ne :)
I don't really care to know who started the war!!! I care to know when it will end!!! The war has already begun and it will not be important to know who started it, but what matters to people is knowing when it will end?

What I care about is knowing when will the suffering of these poor people on both sides who have nothing to do with war or politics end?!!

Political leaders are the ones who fan the flames of war and the people are the ones who pay the price in blood, suffering and pain.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 20, 2023, 10:55:22 PM
^^^ The wars will end when the people find out that their leaders are promoting wars for profit. I wonder how many of the soldiers who are killed in the war, just before they die, if they don't have some regrets about joining as a soldier in something as stupid as a war. It must be a big let-down for many, that they failed in what they were trying to accomplished... and that they can't even tell if the war is going to turn out well for their side.

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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Cryptock on February 21, 2023, 05:50:39 PM
^^^ The wars will end when the people find out that their leaders are promoting wars for profit. I wonder how many of the soldiers who are killed in the war, just before they die, if they don't have some regrets about joining as a soldier in something as stupid as a war. It must be a big let-down for many, that they failed in what they were trying to accomplished... and that they can't even tell if the war is going to turn out well for their side.

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Putin gave a warning to US - that they get to know that some people in Washington are planning to do nuclear test against Russia  - On the other hand Russian defence ministry and nuclear corporation will be therefore be ready to test russian nuclear weapon if necessary they said they will not do it first but if they try to do they will combat.
Putin also mentioned in todays address that Ukraine had sought to strike a facility deep inside Russia where some of its nuclear bombers are based - this is the reference to the Engels air base.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 21, 2023, 06:03:39 PM
^^^ Well, the US has lied and lied to Russia about not expanding Nato. And now the US is supplying Ukraine with money and weapons, against what was essentially a Russian police action to stop the wicked Ukraine government from killing her own citizens. So, good or bad, it isn't any wonder the Russia might expand their nukes and war machines.

8)


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: DrBeer on February 23, 2023, 05:16:05 PM
And as soon as you reasonably and 100% prove that this is stupidity, I will tell you what the Moscow Khaganate / USSR / Russia is, and who really started the war in Ukraine :)ne :)
I don't really care to know who started the war!!! I care to know when it will end!!! The war has already begun and it will not be important to know who started it, but what matters to people is knowing when it will end?

What I care about is knowing when will the suffering of these poor people on both sides who have nothing to do with war or politics end?!!

Political leaders are the ones who fan the flames of war and the people are the ones who pay the price in blood, suffering and pain.

Sorry, but not the most reasonable question. The fact is that without knowing the reasons, and the real history of what is happening, it is difficult to understand what you want ... in fact, what you want. Your desire "I want the war to stop" is similar to the recipe for severe whiteness "you need to drink yogurt and walk up to the 35th floor every day", without examining the patient and his illness.
Not so long ago, there were times when the rulers of Europe, the "Kremlin lapdogs" (Merkel, Macron, Sarkozy and all sorts of Orbans) called for simply stopping support for Ukraine, stopping supplying weapons to Ukraine, sitting down at the negotiating table with Russia and agreeing to Russia's conditions, and like there will be peace. No. There will be no peace. There will be "appeasement" of the criminal. And there will be death of the people of Ukraine. Ukraine today. Tomorrow he would come to Poland, or Estonia, or Slovakia ... And they would also be handed over, well, "so that there is no war, let's stop it quickly." But when it would come, for example, to Germany, a wild screech would begin, because the rest of the world said - you agree, they will destroy you, but the main thing is that there should be no war. True, such an approach "smells" badly, from the series "we don't care, the main thing is that the war ends"?


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Cryptock on February 23, 2023, 05:23:38 PM
And as soon as you reasonably and 100% prove that this is stupidity, I will tell you what the Moscow Khaganate / USSR / Russia is, and who really started the war in Ukraine :)ne :)
I don't really care to know who started the war!!! I care to know when it will end!!! The war has already begun and it will not be important to know who started it, but what matters to people is knowing when it will end?

What I care about is knowing when will the suffering of these poor people on both sides who have nothing to do with war or politics end?!!

Political leaders are the ones who fan the flames of war and the people are the ones who pay the price in blood, suffering and pain.

Sorry, but not the most reasonable question. The fact is that without knowing the reasons, and the real history of what is happening, it is difficult to understand what you want ... in fact, what you want. Your desire "I want the war to stop" is similar to the recipe for severe whiteness "you need to drink yogurt and walk up to the 35th floor every day", without examining the patient and his illness.
Not so long ago, there were times when the rulers of Europe, the "Kremlin lapdogs" (Merkel, Macron, Sarkozy and all sorts of Orbans) called for simply stopping support for Ukraine, stopping supplying weapons to Ukraine, sitting down at the negotiating table with Russia and agreeing to Russia's conditions, and like there will be peace. No. There will be no peace. There will be "appeasement" of the criminal. And there will be death of the people of Ukraine. Ukraine today. Tomorrow he would come to Poland, or Estonia, or Slovakia ... And they would also be handed over, well, "so that there is no war, let's stop it quickly." But when it would come, for example, to Germany, a wild screech would begin, because the rest of the world said - you agree, they will destroy you, but the main thing is that there should be no war. True, such an approach "smells" badly, from the series "we don't care, the main thing is that the war ends"?
Putin meets china top diplomat in Moscow
US warn china may supply weapon - now the war is getting intense.
 


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 23, 2023, 10:20:17 PM
^^^ Right along with that... Great article below.


The U.S. And Europe vs. Russia And China – The "Alliances Of The Apocalypse" Have Formed (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/340002-2023-02-23-the-u-s-and-europe-vs-russia-and-china-the.htm)



http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/the-u-s-and-europe-vs-russia-and-china-the-alliances-of-the-apocalypse-have-formed/
Thanks to the endless bumbling of the Biden administration, Russia and China have been pushed into each other's arms, and now they seem determined to confront the western powers together.  For those of you that have not been paying attention, the apocalyptic alliances that we have been anticipating for years have now formed.  It is going to be the U.S. and Europe on one side, and Russia and China will be on the other.  All of the marbles are at stake, and both sides have plenty of nuclear weapons.

On Tuesday, China's top diplomat Wang Yi publicly declared that his nation is "ready to join forces with the Russian side"…

The People's Republic of China is ready to join forces with Russia to decisively stand up for national interests and promote mutually beneficial cooperation in all areas, Wang Yi, director of the Office of the Foreign Affairs Commission of the Communist Party of China's Central Committee, said on Tuesday as he met with Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev.
... (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/the-u-s-and-europe-vs-russia-and-china-the-alliances-of-the-apocalypse-have-formed/)




China's naval fleet is growing and the US 'can't keep up' with the warship buildup as Beijing uses its sea power to project an 'increasingly aggressive military posture globally,' Navy Secretary warns (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/340006-2023-02-23-chinas-naval-fleet-is-growing-and-the-us-cant-keep.htm)



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11783587/US-pace-Chinas-warship-buildup-warns-Navy-Secretary.html
US Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro voiced concern in remarks on Wednesday

Said China has 340 active warships, compared to about 280 for the US Navy

Claimed US naval shipyards can't match the output of Chinese ones


The US Secretary of the Navy has raised the alarm that China's naval fleet surpasses America's in number of ships, and is growing faster than the US has current capacity to match.

'It is no secret that the People's Republic of China seeks to upend our dominance on the oceans across the globe,' said Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro in remarks at the National Press Club in Washington DC on Wednesday.

Del Toro said that China's navy has recently added over one hundred combatants to its fleet, calling it 'a naval buildup that is a key component of its increasingly aggressive military posture globally.'
... (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11783587/US-pace-Chinas-warship-buildup-warns-Navy-Secretary.html)



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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: DrBeer on February 25, 2023, 12:28:27 AM
^^^ Well, the US HAS Lied and Lied to Russia ABOUT Not Expanding NATO. And Now the US is Supplying UKRaine with Money and Weapons, Against What Was Essentially a Russian Police to Stop The Wicked UKRANENMENT FROMENT FROMENT HER OWN CITISENS. SO, Good or Bad, It Isn't Any Wonder The Russia Might Expand Their Nukes and War Machines.
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NATO must erect a monument to Russia! Honestly ! Well, think for yourself:
1. Until 2022, NATO existed more on paper. And only the terrorist attacks of Russia resumed the status of this, again a powerful organization!
Again in NATO and the armament of NATO format is invested.
2. Companies of weapons manufacturers for NATO are generally delighted! The whole world saw what shit actually, advertised Russian "no analogues of weapons." And orders were sprinkled with them what previously was not
3. Many countries realized that Russia is a colossus on clay legs and with the head of a stuffed shit. He should not be afraid, he needs to resist! Even Ukraine, which has been subjected to terrorist attacks since 2014, was able to repulse Rossi. And after 2022, the summer of 2022, when the actual and not fabulous, the supply of new weapons began - Rosia began to escape and lose.
By the way - the Kharkov shame of the "Second Army of the World" is still "flowers"! :) March-April for Marauders and Russian terrorists will become a month of endless surprise and disappointment, but already irreversible ....
4. Russia, in addition to the status of the "world outcast", has also received the status of a country - universal fake ":)
5. About the "nuclear mudia of Russia" - it already does not look funny, but stupid :) The day before yesterday they tried again to "scare the whole world", launching their longest nuclear misunderstanding ... They were expected to be bent. Did you really believe in success? :)


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 25, 2023, 06:57:11 PM
^^^ Well, the US has lied and lied to Russia about not expanding Nato. And now the US is supplying Ukraine with money and weapons, against what was essentially a Russian police action to stop the wicked Ukraine government from killing her own citizens. So, good or bad, it isn't any wonder the Russia might expand their nukes and war machines.

8)


NATO must erect a monument to Russia! Honestly ! Well, think for yourself:
1. Until 2022, NATO existed more on paper. And only the terrorist attacks of Russia resumed the status of this, again a powerful organization!
Again in NATO and the armament of NATO format is invested. - When you look at Nato, all it really is, is a military force that isn't necessarily supported by the people of the Nato countries. And even the governments of the Nato countries aren't all that enthused with the state of affairs of supporting Ukraine against Russia. Support for Nato by its people mostly comes about because Nato militarization is like a systemic fungus that, like where people automatically support Nato just to support themselves in their living of their daily lives, not because they want to support Nato, but because they can't stop taxation for Nato in their country.

BTW, the people of the US who support Nato do it because they don't understand the full picture. Also, they do it because taxation gives some of their taxes to stupidity, like supporting Ukraine.

2. Companies of weapons manufacturers for NATO are generally delighted! The whole world saw what shit actually, advertised Russian "no analogues of weapons." And orders were sprinkled with them what previously was not - What does that really mean? People don't know, or else they forget, that the US instigated the Ukraine government to start killing her own people in the Donbas area in at least 2014. To be fair, some Russian activity looked like empire building, except for one factor. Russia gave the countries of the USSR freedom in 1991. Russia is not empire building where the people don't want Russia. Rather, through Nato, it is the US that is empire building.

3. Many countries realized that Russia is a colossus on clay legs and with the head of a stuffed shit. He should not be afraid, he needs to resist! Even Ukraine, which has been subjected to terrorist attacks since 2014, was able to repulse Rossi. And after 2022, the summer of 2022, when the actual and not fabulous, the supply of new weapons began - Rosia began to escape and lose. - World trade, based on contracts, is what is ruling the world. Russia is built on gold and silver as money for trading. The US banking system is built on lies. Right now, the people of the US are beginning to realize this, and will take the clay-leg-lying banking system down sometime.

By the way - the Kharkov shame of the "Second Army of the World" is still "flowers"! :) March-April for Marauders and Russian terrorists will become a month of endless surprise and disappointment, but already irreversible .... - Only because Russia didn't have their hearts in it Russia's goal was to stop the killing in the first place. And when they realized that they were being pulled into more killing, they simply pulled out. Russia isn't empire building. If the Kharkov area people had want them to stay, they would have stayed, and the Ukraine military would have left or been destroyed.

4. Russia, in addition to the status of the "world outcast", has also received the status of a country - universal fake ":) - You have been listening to too much US media propaganda. Right now, Russia and China are forming the largest nation-alliance the world has seen... especially when you consider BRICS.

5. About the "nuclear mudia of Russia" - it already does not look funny, but stupid :) The day before yesterday they tried again to "scare the whole world", launching their longest nuclear misunderstanding ... They were expected to be bent. Did you really believe in success? :) - Fortunately, you are way off in your thinking about nuclear armament. Uses of military nukes have been neutralized worldwide by forces other than the militaries of the nuclear countries. Research it, and you will see that wars are being used to make peace against the ideals of the warmongers, who have taken control of countries through lies, deception, and intrigue.

The biggest "play" in the Urkaine war has to do with which people are on God's side more. God won't let His people be harmed in a big way, if they obey Him. The US is full of God's people. That's why there is so much success there. But Ukraine, unlike Russia, is attempting to get rid of Christianity. God might have His hands full in determining the best judgment for the various nations. But, He can and does do it correctly.


8)


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: af_newbie on February 26, 2023, 07:44:34 PM
^^^ Well, the US has lied and lied to Russia about not expanding Nato. And now the US is supplying Ukraine with money and weapons, against what was essentially a Russian police action to stop the wicked Ukraine government from killing her own citizens. So, good or bad, it isn't any wonder the Russia might expand their nukes and war machines.

8)


NATO must erect a monument to Russia! Honestly ! Well, think for yourself:
1. Until 2022, NATO existed more on paper. And only the terrorist attacks of Russia resumed the status of this, again a powerful organization!
Again in NATO and the armament of NATO format is invested. - When you look at Nato, all it really is, is a military force that isn't necessarily supported by the people of the Nato countries. And even the governments of the Nato countries aren't all that enthused with the state of affairs of supporting Ukraine against Russia. Support for Nato by its people mostly comes about because Nato militarization is like a systemic fungus that, like where people automatically support Nato just to support themselves in their living of their daily lives, not because they want to support Nato, but because they can't stop taxation for Nato in their country.

BTW, the people of the US who support Nato do it because they don't understand the full picture. Also, they do it because taxation gives some of their taxes to stupidity, like supporting Ukraine.

2. Companies of weapons manufacturers for NATO are generally delighted! The whole world saw what shit actually, advertised Russian "no analogues of weapons." And orders were sprinkled with them what previously was not - What does that really mean? People don't know, or else they forget, that the US instigated the Ukraine government to start killing her own people in the Donbas area in at least 2014. To be fair, some Russian activity looked like empire building, except for one factor. Russia gave the countries of the USSR freedom in 1991. Russia is not empire building where the people don't want Russia. Rather, through Nato, it is the US that is empire building.

3. Many countries realized that Russia is a colossus on clay legs and with the head of a stuffed shit. He should not be afraid, he needs to resist! Even Ukraine, which has been subjected to terrorist attacks since 2014, was able to repulse Rossi. And after 2022, the summer of 2022, when the actual and not fabulous, the supply of new weapons began - Rosia began to escape and lose. - World trade, based on contracts, is what is ruling the world. Russia is built on gold and silver as money for trading. The US banking system is built on lies. Right now, the people of the US are beginning to realize this, and will take the clay-leg-lying banking system down sometime.

By the way - the Kharkov shame of the "Second Army of the World" is still "flowers"! :) March-April for Marauders and Russian terrorists will become a month of endless surprise and disappointment, but already irreversible .... - Only because Russia didn't have their hearts in it Russia's goal was to stop the killing in the first place. And when they realized that they were being pulled into more killing, they simply pulled out. Russia isn't empire building. If the Kharkov area people had want them to stay, they would have stayed, and the Ukraine military would have left or been destroyed.

4. Russia, in addition to the status of the "world outcast", has also received the status of a country - universal fake ":) - You have been listening to too much US media propaganda. Right now, Russia and China are forming the largest nation-alliance the world has seen... especially when you consider BRICS.

5. About the "nuclear mudia of Russia" - it already does not look funny, but stupid :) The day before yesterday they tried again to "scare the whole world", launching their longest nuclear misunderstanding ... They were expected to be bent. Did you really believe in success? :) - Fortunately, you are way off in your thinking about nuclear armament. Uses of military nukes have been neutralized worldwide by forces other than the militaries of the nuclear countries. Research it, and you will see that wars are being used to make peace against the ideals of the warmongers, who have taken control of countries through lies, deception, and intrigue.

The biggest "play" in the Urkaine war has to do with which people are on God's side more. God won't let His people be harmed in a big way, if they obey Him. The US is full of God's people. That's why there is so much success there. But Ukraine, unlike Russia, is attempting to get rid of Christianity. God might have His hands full in determining the best judgment for the various nations. But, He can and does do it correctly.


8)

Sometimes God needs a little help from artillery rounds.

BTW, there are a lot of Russians who want to restore the Godless Soviet Union. And you are supporting them?

Your God will put you on his naughty list. LOL.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on February 26, 2023, 08:03:04 PM
^^^ Well, the US has lied and lied to Russia about not expanding Nato. And now the US is supplying Ukraine with money and weapons, against what was essentially a Russian police action to stop the wicked Ukraine government from killing her own citizens. So, good or bad, it isn't any wonder the Russia might expand their nukes and war machines.

8)


NATO must erect a monument to Russia! Honestly ! Well, think for yourself:
1. Until 2022, NATO existed more on paper. And only the terrorist attacks of Russia resumed the status of this, again a powerful organization!
Again in NATO and the armament of NATO format is invested. - When you look at Nato, all it really is, is a military force that isn't necessarily supported by the people of the Nato countries. And even the governments of the Nato countries aren't all that enthused with the state of affairs of supporting Ukraine against Russia. Support for Nato by its people mostly comes about because Nato militarization is like a systemic fungus that, like where people automatically support Nato just to support themselves in their living of their daily lives, not because they want to support Nato, but because they can't stop taxation for Nato in their country.

BTW, the people of the US who support Nato do it because they don't understand the full picture. Also, they do it because taxation gives some of their taxes to stupidity, like supporting Ukraine.

2. Companies of weapons manufacturers for NATO are generally delighted! The whole world saw what shit actually, advertised Russian "no analogues of weapons." And orders were sprinkled with them what previously was not - What does that really mean? People don't know, or else they forget, that the US instigated the Ukraine government to start killing her own people in the Donbas area in at least 2014. To be fair, some Russian activity looked like empire building, except for one factor. Russia gave the countries of the USSR freedom in 1991. Russia is not empire building where the people don't want Russia. Rather, through Nato, it is the US that is empire building.

3. Many countries realized that Russia is a colossus on clay legs and with the head of a stuffed shit. He should not be afraid, he needs to resist! Even Ukraine, which has been subjected to terrorist attacks since 2014, was able to repulse Rossi. And after 2022, the summer of 2022, when the actual and not fabulous, the supply of new weapons began - Rosia began to escape and lose. - World trade, based on contracts, is what is ruling the world. Russia is built on gold and silver as money for trading. The US banking system is built on lies. Right now, the people of the US are beginning to realize this, and will take the clay-leg-lying banking system down sometime.

By the way - the Kharkov shame of the "Second Army of the World" is still "flowers"! :) March-April for Marauders and Russian terrorists will become a month of endless surprise and disappointment, but already irreversible .... - Only because Russia didn't have their hearts in it Russia's goal was to stop the killing in the first place. And when they realized that they were being pulled into more killing, they simply pulled out. Russia isn't empire building. If the Kharkov area people had want them to stay, they would have stayed, and the Ukraine military would have left or been destroyed.

4. Russia, in addition to the status of the "world outcast", has also received the status of a country - universal fake ":) - You have been listening to too much US media propaganda. Right now, Russia and China are forming the largest nation-alliance the world has seen... especially when you consider BRICS.

5. About the "nuclear mudia of Russia" - it already does not look funny, but stupid :) The day before yesterday they tried again to "scare the whole world", launching their longest nuclear misunderstanding ... They were expected to be bent. Did you really believe in success? :) - Fortunately, you are way off in your thinking about nuclear armament. Uses of military nukes have been neutralized worldwide by forces other than the militaries of the nuclear countries. Research it, and you will see that wars are being used to make peace against the ideals of the warmongers, who have taken control of countries through lies, deception, and intrigue.

The biggest "play" in the Urkaine war has to do with which people are on God's side more. God won't let His people be harmed in a big way, if they obey Him. The US is full of God's people. That's why there is so much success there. But Ukraine, unlike Russia, is attempting to get rid of Christianity. God might have His hands full in determining the best judgment for the various nations. But, He can and does do it correctly.


8)

Sometimes God needs a little help from artillery rounds.

BTW, there are a lot of Russians who want to restore the Godless Soviet Union. And you are supporting them?

Your God will put you on his naughty list. LOL.

You have forgotten to listen to some of Putin's recent speeches where he talks about God, and how the US leadership is turning away from God, and how he (Putin) is going to uphold laws that God wants for Russia and all peoples of the world.

Isn't it time to turn to God and take yourself out of harms way by not believing in Him? He welcomes you. He made you in your individuality for a purpose only you can fulfill. Turn now. Why destroy yourself?

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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Cryptock on February 27, 2023, 03:55:18 AM


You have forgotten to listen to some of Putin's recent speeches where he talks about God, and how the US leadership is turning away from God, and how he (Putin) is going to uphold laws that God wants for Russia and all peoples of the world.

Isn't it time to turn to God and take yourself out of harms way by not believing in Him? He welcomes you. He made you in your individuality for a purpose only you can fulfill. Turn now. Why destroy yourself?

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Putin believes that Russian should side them as they are trying to save the historic lands.
On the other hand all the NATO and G7 leaders are united to put more sanctions on Russia. Now both the Russia and Ukraine are seeking support from other countries.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Theones on February 27, 2023, 04:21:13 AM
Imagine being so beyond time and still believe in a empire. Free humans neither bow down to a emperor, party, club-boss, doctrina, czar, tycoon....or be lead by any other cult figure.
That's just the point. We are way past eras of colonisation or subduing a people by waging wars. That savagery has gone with the 20th century and we've been more better since then, looking out for civilised means to archiving a goal.
I can try to see reasons why a nation would wage war when peaceful resolutions isn't reached in order to protect its borders from invasion but, not for the purpose of editing the maps and sourcing for resources.

Talking about slavery and a people, I think Africa ought to say the most here but no, it's history and trying to do anything other than restitution and forging ahead would be issues of course, aggression and retaliation. We don't need these in our world today.
In my opinion none of the Ukraine and Russian ally has really tried to save them from war .. .
The have accelerated the war and created so many problems for the world. Now the whole world suffers the inflation created by them. Everyone is in the state of panic these days. Thanks to the superpower for creating disasters in the world around.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Alik Bahshi on March 04, 2023, 04:24:03 PM
Imagine being so beyond time and still believe in a empire. Free humans neither bow down to a emperor, party, club-boss, doctrina, czar, tycoon....or be lead by any other cult figure.
That's just the point. We are way past eras of colonisation or subduing a people by waging wars. That savagery has gone with the 20th century and we've been more better since then, looking out for civilised means to archiving a goal.
I can try to see reasons why a nation would wage war when peaceful resolutions isn't reached in order to protect its borders from invasion but, not for the purpose of editing the maps and sourcing for resources.

Talking about slavery and a people, I think Africa ought to say the most here but no, it's history and trying to do anything other than restitution and forging ahead would be issues of course, aggression and retaliation. We don't need these in our world today.
In my opinion none of the Ukraine and Russian ally has really tried to save them from war .. .
The have accelerated the war and created so many problems for the world. Now the whole world suffers the inflation created by them. Everyone is in the state of panic these days. Thanks to the superpower for creating disasters in the world around.

Look for the cause of the war in Putin's revanchism, and not in the allies.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Cryptock on March 04, 2023, 11:40:54 PM
Imagine being so beyond time and still believe in a empire. Free humans neither bow down to a emperor, party, club-boss, doctrina, czar, tycoon....or be lead by any other cult figure.
That's just the point. We are way past eras of colonisation or subduing a people by waging wars. That savagery has gone with the 20th century and we've been more better since then, looking out for civilised means to archiving a goal.
I can try to see reasons why a nation would wage war when peaceful resolutions isn't reached in order to protect its borders from invasion but, not for the purpose of editing the maps and sourcing for resources.

Talking about slavery and a people, I think Africa ought to say the most here but no, it's history and trying to do anything other than restitution and forging ahead would be issues of course, aggression and retaliation. We don't need these in our world today.
In my opinion none of the Ukraine and Russian ally has really tried to save them from war .. .
The have accelerated the war and created so many problems for the world. Now the whole world suffers the inflation created by them. Everyone is in the state of panic these days. Thanks to the superpower for creating disasters in the world around.

Look for the cause of the war in Putin's revanchism, and not in the allies.
Now UN officials are having meeting with Russia and insisting them to stop the war.
No sanction has worked so far. I wish Russia should choose an option of peace as well. So that there is stability in the world


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Alik Bahshi on March 27, 2023, 11:13:55 AM
Imagine being so beyond time and still believe in a empire. Free humans neither bow down to a emperor, party, club-boss, doctrina, czar, tycoon....or be lead by any other cult figure.
That's just the point. We are way past eras of colonisation or subduing a people by waging wars. That savagery has gone with the 20th century and we've been more better since then, looking out for civilised means to archiving a goal.
I can try to see reasons why a nation would wage war when peaceful resolutions isn't reached in order to protect its borders from invasion but, not for the purpose of editing the maps and sourcing for resources.

Talking about slavery and a people, I think Africa ought to say the most here but no, it's history and trying to do anything other than restitution and forging ahead would be issues of course, aggression and retaliation. We don't need these in our world today.
In my opinion none of the Ukraine and Russian ally has really tried to save them from war .. .
The have accelerated the war and created so many problems for the world. Now the whole world suffers the inflation created by them. Everyone is in the state of panic these days. Thanks to the superpower for creating disasters in the world around.

Look for the cause of the war in Putin's revanchism, and not in the allies.
Now UN officials are having meeting with Russia and insisting them to stop the war.
No sanction has worked so far. I wish Russia should choose an option of peace as well. So that there is stability in the world

 For peace and stability, Putin must withdraw the Russian army from Ukraine, and pay compensation for the damage caused, as Germany did after the defeat in the war.


Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: BADecker on March 27, 2023, 04:56:37 PM

Now UN officials are having meeting with Russia and insisting them to stop the war.
No sanction has worked so far. I wish Russia should choose an option of peace as well. So that there is stability in the world

 For peace and stability, Putin must withdraw the Russian army from Ukraine, and pay compensation for the damage caused, as Germany did after the defeat in the war.


Only if they lose the war like Germany lost. If they win, who will make them pay? Certainly not the beaten West.

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Title: Re: Russian world order
Post by: Alik Bahshi on March 28, 2023, 12:47:07 PM

Now UN officials are having meeting with Russia and insisting them to stop the war.
No sanction has worked so far. I wish Russia should choose an option of peace as well. So that there is stability in the world

 For peace and stability, Putin must withdraw the Russian army from Ukraine, and pay compensation for the damage caused, as Germany did after the defeat in the war.


Only if they lose the war like Germany lost. If they win, who will make them pay? Certainly not the beaten West.

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  German fascism was defeated, and the same will happen to Russian fascism.