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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: shasan on February 16, 2023, 03:58:21 AM



Title: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: shasan on February 16, 2023, 03:58:21 AM
What happened:: papundekli22 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=830783) asking loan on the same time at several lenders I think it is for nothing but for scamming. His behavior is very suspicious.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=830783


Additional Notes: The user asked loan Today at 12:24:01 AM on my lening thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030169.msg61769506#msg61769506)
Today at 12:26:13 AM on  DarkStar's Loans (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3243635.msg61769509#msg61769509)
Today at 12:27:51 AM on  zazarb's Quick-Loans (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1161170.msg61769511#msg61769511)
Loan amount same, repayment amount same, repayment date same (I mean all the same information)



Also, there is a previous negative trust from 2019 regarding loan requests. And that loan request (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207644.0) is still active (I mean not locked that topic).
https://img001.prntscr.com/file/img001/4PQdSQtcROO0NRPCQ3j3LA.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=830783)


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: shasan on February 16, 2023, 04:01:01 AM
Reserve


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 16, 2023, 05:10:55 AM
I don't know if it's really considered suspicious activity if a user asks for a loan on multiple threads as long as the user isn't accepting loans from multiple users.

Very unlikely his/her loan gets filled without valid collateral regardless.


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: shasan on February 16, 2023, 05:32:00 AM
I don't know if it's really considered suspicious activity if a user asks for a loan on multiple threads as long as the user isn't accepting loans from multiple users.
When any user asks loan from a lender then s/he should wait until accepting/rejecting. Or at least remove the previous request and ask for a new request from another lender. Only those people whose intention is not good may ask loan on multiple people/threads at the same time. I have seen your loan may not approve for several hours yet you do not ask loan on another. Also, I have not seen any legit user who may ask loan on multiple people/threads at the same time. But this user asked for three loans within less than 4 minutes.


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: Edwardard on February 16, 2023, 06:54:30 AM
Also, there is a previous negative trust from 2019 regarding loan requests.
Taking a quick look into the given user's post history, it is clear that he is just here for some free bucks since most of his posts are in games and rounds, and lending board. Also, he hasn't contributed much to the forum to gain enough merits, which is why he still got only 10merits with such an old account. All these facts lead to only one thought, he is here just to "earn and run".


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: shasan on February 16, 2023, 07:34:34 AM
he still got only 10merits with such an old account.
The user has not earned any merit all the merit (10) on his/her profile papundekli22 received from the airdrop. Details are on the bpip (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=papundekli22). So, the account act as nothing more than the account of a newbie. And as a newbie can't get a single dollar without collateral the user will also not get a single dollar like me and any other experienced person.


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: FatFork on February 16, 2023, 11:15:50 AM
he still got only 10merits with such an old account.
The user has not earned any merit all the merit (10) on his/her profile papundekli22 received from the airdrop. Details are on the bpip (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=papundekli22). So, the account act as nothing more than the account of a newbie. And as a newbie can't get a single dollar without collateral the user will also not get a single dollar like me and any other experienced person.

Oh, looks like we have a user who's been around for a while! He claims he had the account since 2010 but lost access.

Possible alt: mumi22 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=50710)

Bitcointalk Username:papundekli22 (before grindcomber,mumi22-lost my pass not newbie)

Loan history:before i have usernames grindcomber and mumi22.Here since 2010.

The account mumi22 was up for sale back in 2015 by (now inactive) Hero member waterpile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=301123), so it is possible that's his alt account as there is no evidence that the account has been sold.

Account for sale: mumi22 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=50710)
STARTING BID 0.12 BTC

Another possible alt: nacifeleseg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2702805)

Accept me with my newbie acc. for spins ? (crypto memeber since 2011 my first account on btctalk.org was mumi22). Or no ?

username:nacifeleseg



Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: albon on February 16, 2023, 09:59:24 PM
What happened:: papundekli22 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=830783) asking loan on the same time at several lenders I think it is for nothing but for scamming. His behavior is very suspicious.
These scammers prefer to be present in the topics of lenders to obtain loans from them and then disappear without returning again. It is better for any lender to lend to Sr.members or above who have green trusts and to use the escrow service to obtain the account of the one who requested the loan as a mortgage. If the loan applicant does not return the loaned amount on the specified day, then the lender asks for the account details from the escrow and sells the account, and returns his stolen money.

Frankly, lenders have a great risk in these transactions because if they do not guarantee their rights, they will lose their money, so they must always choose the person to whom they will give the loan.


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: stompix on February 16, 2023, 10:20:14 PM
What happened:: papundekli22 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=830783) asking loan on the same time at several lenders I think it is for nothing but for scamming. His behavior is very suspicious.

Suspicious?  Aren't you already familiar with his name?  ;D ;D

Archive to shorten the post (https://archive.md/1bLgO#selection-3685.0-3799.51)

Archive of the escrow profile: https://archive.md/gPGrd#selection-355.0-359.27
Who was last active on the forum on March 27, 2016, 05:10:27 AM
Archive of your latest post: https://archive.md/rgix9
Collateral: https://slushpool.com/ Masster account since 2011
By considering this I can't think anything except you are a probable scammer/scammer.

Hi guys i need a microloan for a few hour s its only a 0.04 ETH But i need it ASAP if anyone can help me I give back for him 0.06 ETH TOMORW!!!!!

LOAN NEED
CURENCY : ETH
AMOUNT : 0.04 ETH
ADRESS: 0xfc8395d43374f6BDf9564fce8357E4d65e2CF2F2


Thaks a lot

Best Regards Papundekli22
There is an open case against you. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5076032 I think it will be better if you can response on there.

Hii i need a loan is it possbile ? About 250Eur in altcoins

haev a nice day
best regards papundelli22
I don't think you will be allowed from anyone to take this type of a loan without any collateral. And op will also not give any loan as the op needs to collect only some personal information as well as personal document to use on somewhere which is unethical. So, beware from taking any advantages from anyone or any place, thanks.

All he has done on this forum is ask for loans for years with the most ridiculous collaterals, he knows his account is worth nothing so he keeps trying, of course, nobody is going to give him any, at least I hope so.
 


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on February 16, 2023, 11:46:53 PM
My question is don't you set a restriction on the account that is eligible to receive loan from you?
If yes then you just have to ignore such users since you have already sets your restrictions and besides this same user requesting a loan from another separate lenders without being finalized on the Initial request doesn't shows a good representation or interpretation.
I believe you have your rules and regulations so if he or she doesn't meet your requirements then you or even violate the rules the best option is to formally put such user on the ignore list.


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: Edwardard on February 17, 2023, 04:18:29 AM
My question is don't you set a restriction on the account that is eligible to receive loan from you?
If yes then you just have to ignore such users since you have already sets your restrictions
It is better to make a public thread about potential scammers and let them get tagged by more ppl so that other newbies dont fall for the same scam.

I believe you have your rules and regulations so if he or she doesn't meet your requirements then you or even violate the rules the best option is to formally put such user on the ignore list.
Putting such users on ignore list doesnt help anyone. Everyone should be constantly made aware to not deal with these type of users by actively monitoring their activity and warning others. The forum will be a much better place if we get more of such scambusters. I am usually on the side of ignoring spammers, not scammers.


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: shasan on February 17, 2023, 04:45:25 AM
Suspicious?  Aren't you already familiar with his name?

The behavior of the user is very suspicious though I couldn't remember the user before you came in front of me. It was a mistake as I have not created a public post against him/her at that time and did not create an accusation as well as not to create a flag.

My question is don't you set a restriction on the account that is eligible to receive loan from you?
If yes then you just have to ignore such users since you have already sets your restrictions and besides this same user requesting a loan from another separate lenders without being finalized on the Initial request doesn't shows a good representation or interpretation.
I have no restrictions and my thread is not self-moderated. But I check manually before accepting/rejecting any loan. Ignoring cant be anything as the user can still post and that is not creating any problem. Hence, we can see what's going on. Creating this post here doesn't mean the user creating any problems by posting. The problem is this type of post can be made only by the scammer/probable scammer.


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on February 17, 2023, 06:28:59 AM
Suspicious?  Aren't you already familiar with his name?

The behavior of the user is very suspicious though I couldn't remember the user before you came in front of me. It was a mistake as I have not created a public post against him/her at that time and did not create an accusation as well as not to create a flag.

My question is don't you set a restriction on the account that is eligible to receive loan from you?
If yes then you just have to ignore such users since you have already sets your restrictions and besides this same user requesting a loan from another separate lenders without being finalized on the Initial request doesn't shows a good representation or interpretation.
I have no restrictions and my thread is not self-moderated. But I check manually before accepting/rejecting any loan. Ignoring cant be anything as the user can still post and that is not creating any problem. Hence, we can see what's going on. Creating this post here doesn't mean the user creating any problems by posting. The problem is this type of post can be made only by the scammer/probable scammer.

Okay good..
Exposing such people is the best so that other lenders would also notice the action and be readily active not to get involved with business deal with such people.
I must say you are doing a good job.


Title: Re: Suspicious Activity (papundekli22)
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 27, 2023, 12:27:46 PM
Allow me to just park this here:

Name :Jan Sterco
Vote
Btc add : 16Bc8sh3gTaypgRjpxBWn82RZ5H95XC41E

I wanna win

thanks
Best Regards  PApundekli22


@mumi22
16Bc8sh3gTaypgRjpxBWn82RZ5H95XC41E
thanks a lot


16Bc8sh3gTaypgRjpxBWn82RZ5H95XC41E

thanks man





username:grindcomber
1DBatVGvWsfppHvpH7pCwRABUUFfihE3GJ
Thanks


Hii
Username : grindcomber

Thanks for all
Best Regards Papundekli22





Meanwhile back in 2016:

This seems relevant for this thread.

Account connected:

mumi22 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=50710), papundekli22 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=830783), waterpile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=301123)

Proof:

...

Which is why I keep telling people they should always post something on a UID's trust feedback page, even if it's neutral.

There's a whole lot more, but I'm still going back through their early posts...

(and there's evidence @waterpile has many alts including the above)