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Title: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 22, 2023, 02:59:02 PM
AfreecaTV StarCraft League Remastered Season 15

https://i.imgur.com/VrLWUW2.png

Format:  Tournament
Venue:  AfreecaTV Studios, Seoul, South Korea
Start Date:  Feb 28, 2023
End Date:  April 30, 2023

Live Stream (Korean):  http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1
Live Stream (English):  http://play.afreecatv.com/dth03119

Round of 24

Group A Feb 28, 6:00pm KST
Mini:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Mini
Hiya:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/HiyA
Action:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Action
sSak:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/SSak

Group B March 1, 6:00pm KST
Bisu:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Bisu
HyuN:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/HyuN
Sharp:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Sharp
BarrackS:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/BarrackS
 
Group C March 3, 6:00pm KST
Soma:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Soma
Ample:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Ample
Best:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Best
Mind:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Mind

Group D March 5, 6:00pm KST
Snow:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Snow
BishOp:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/BishOp
Shuttle:   https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Shuttle
Jaedong:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Jaedong
 
Group E March 6, 6:00pm KST
ZerO:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/ZerO
Ruin:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Ruin
Shine:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Shine
Mong:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Mong

Group F March 8, 6:00pm KST
Light:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Light
Sacsri:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Sacsri
JyJ:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/JyJ
Stork:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Stork


Round of 16

Group A
Royal:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/RoyaL
Jaedong:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Jaedong
Action:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Action
Shine:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Shine

Group B
Rush:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Rush
Barracks:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/BarrackS
Zero:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/ZerO
JyJ:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/JyJ

Group C
Soul Key:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Soulkey
Best:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Best
Snow:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Snow
Light:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Light

Group D
Hero:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Hero
sSak:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/SSak
Mind:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Mind
Bisu:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Bisu


Playoffs

https://i.imgur.com/FWOs0Hy.jpg


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 22, 2023, 02:59:30 PM
Reserved


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 27, 2023, 12:50:25 PM
ASL 15 starts tomorrow with Group A of Round of 24 with Mini vs Hiya and Action vs sSak!  Sportsbet was the only known book in crypto that has a betting market for Starcraft/Broodwar rn, a very ooold RTS game.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/esports-betting

So stoked that Steve went thru with his word.  :)

Anyway here's my lottery ticket for the round.  

Mini - Soma 1.86
Add:  Zero - Bisu - Best 4.35
Add:  Light - Snow - Shine 11.84
Add:  Sharp - Jaedong  - Action 45.2
Add:  JyJ 126.55

Haven't made the bet yet.  Action va Hiya doesn't have a market but will prolly add Action at my fourth ticket if it's on.  I'll have to go with the one above if it doesn't.

Edit:  Lottery ticket updated.


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 28, 2023, 08:31:21 AM
Group A is gonna start in around 1.5 hours or so!  You guys can watch the English stream here...

https://play.afreecatv.com/dth03119/

If you guys want the Korean stream, I do, I got the link above in the OP.  Enjoy... 

So far only sportsbet.io has a betting market for the tourney.  Hopefully we see more books get in the action as we go to the next rounds in a couple of weeks.

My updated lottery ticket is above.  Got my bets locked and ready.  Just made small bets but I'm  ore nervous about the ASL than the UFC or the EPL.  Lol.


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: TopTort777 on February 28, 2023, 08:44:50 AM
lol. I know you from mix martial arts topics, but never thought that you are old school rts fan :D This brings good memories of skipping classes, running home to play warcraft 2 on CRT monitors. I remember the day when I got Starcraft cd, how cool those marines looked in first mission :D

Those Korean guys are crazy. The game is so old and they keep running tournaments. Specially on old version of the game, not remastered. Btw, there is a hint for those who wants to bet - always bet on a Korean player if he plays against someone from rest of the world, and never bet on an underdog in a match between two Koreans. Miracles never happen in such game. All the strategies and counterstrategies are already invented. These robots never fail at micro and macro. Underdog never wins.


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 28, 2023, 12:45:47 PM
^  It was the only RTS game I played as a kid.  :)  I was addicted.  Lol.  I have cousins who are a couple of years older than me who were really into it too.  I watched them play online a lot and learned their build orders, strategy and other stuff.

They're actually using SC Remastered since it came out.  And in a Bo1 format for the early rounds, the underdog has a chance to go thru to the Round of 16.  It's what makes it exciting.

Anyway, Group A is done.  Action and sSak are in the Round of 16.  Mini the guy in my top ticket is out but he won his first Bo1 for the group, so the lottery ticket is still alive...  On to the next one...  Group B will be tomorrow at 6:00pm KST.

ASL 15 Round of 24 Group A Results

https://i.imgur.com/ZDBdDeh.jpg


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on March 02, 2023, 03:55:37 PM
Group B was yesterday and I lost my tier 4 and tier 5 tickets because of one guy who decided he wasn't gonna play well that day.  Sharp didn't show any interest at all and it felt like he threw the game.  There was some shenanigans in the SC/BW pro scene when a couple of players were caught fixing matches back in the day.  Wouldn't totally be surprised if it happened again.  :/

Anyway, here are the results for Group B...

ASL 15 Round of 24 Group B Results

https://i.imgur.com/YNAM9im.jpg

Group C tomorrow.  If Soma wins, I win my tier 1 ticket and break even.


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on March 08, 2023, 09:31:41 AM
As you guys may have already noticed, this guy Soma is my pie shtter of the Round of 24.  If you follow the ASL long enough he's been a consistent figure in the Round of 16, so I really don't know what happened to him in his Ro24.  One thing noticeable about him tho is he got really fat.  Not sure how that translates in playing an RTS game.  :D  Maybe mentally it does.  Lol.

Anyway to get my money back I parlayed Snow, Zero and Light.  Light the leg of the parlay is playing in around 30 minutes.  Leeezzgooo!

https://i.imgur.com/NBDmDPB.jpg

Here are the results from groups C to E...

ASL 15 Round of 24 Group C Results

https://i.imgur.com/hMDNsAV.jpg

ASL 15 Round of 24 Group D Results

https://i.imgur.com/AUE1Lyb.jpg

ASL 15 Round of 24 Group E Results

https://i.imgur.com/YkWhMjV.jpg


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on March 10, 2023, 12:23:11 PM
Won my parlay to break even and Round of 24 is done.  It has really been a fun one with unpredicable results.  I think it's due to these players are getting a little bit older now.  Their reflexes could be getting slower.  And if you played SC/BW, you know hand speed and APM matters as much as strats and meta.  This game isn't slow like Dota or League of Legends.  It's a couple of levels higher on the mechical skill side and the strat side.  IMHO.

Anyway, here are the guys who went through for Round of 16.

Group A
Action:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Action
sSak:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/SSak

Group B
Bisu:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Bisu
BarrackS:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/BarrackS
 
Group C
Ample:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Ample
Best:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Best

Group D
Snow:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Snow
Jaedong:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Jaedong
 
Group E
ZerO:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/ZerO
Shine:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Shine


Group F
Light:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Light
JyJ:  https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/JyJ

Group selections for Round of 16 will be at March 15.


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on March 22, 2023, 09:12:40 AM
Group A for the Round of 16 starts in 55 minutes or so.  The first Bo1 matches will be between Royal (T) vs Shine (Z) and Jaedong (Z) vs Action (Z) then the rest of the matches will proceed from there.

Jaedong vs Action should be good and fast paced...  The line for the match is a coin flip but I think Jaedong will tilt mid match and make a couple of wrong decisions.  Lol.  Not that confident tho.  I heard he's been practicing online a lot.

Here's my lottery ticket.

Zero - Bisu
Add:  Rush - Hero
Add:  Royal
Add:  Action - Soulkey
Add:  Light

Leeezz gooo!


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on March 29, 2023, 02:40:21 PM
Round of 16 winners are in.  I lost some money in my lottery ticket but won a couple of singles with Light's Bo1 and Best's Bo1 in Group C.  If you guys know a little bit of the SC/ BW scene, Group C is the group of death. 

Anyway here are the results.  The match ups for the quarter finals are in the OP.  I think the players who are performing really well are Jaedong, Best and JyJ.  The upsets of the group were Light, Bisu, Snow and Rush.

Group A
https://i.imgur.com/iT4urQV.jpg

Group B
https://i.imgur.com/z9wVMz0.jpg

Group C
https://i.imgur.com/CVb7EMo.jpg

Group D
https://i.imgur.com/lHWyU0O.jpg


Title: Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on April 11, 2023, 01:40:48 PM
Quarter final winners are Best (P), Mind (T), Hero (Z) and JyJ (T).  They go to the semis next week which is gonna be on April 17 and 18 at 6:00pm KST.

First match will be Best vs Mind then Hero vs JyJ the next day.  My picks to go to the finals are Best and JyJ...

This season's Round of 16 and quarter finals were really great.  Tier B and C players were leveling up their game and were playing outside of the meta, surprising the A Tier guys.  None of the players in the semis are Tier A.  ;)

Anyway here's the updated bracket.

https://i.imgur.com/FWOs0Hy.jpg