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My new account was banned because I copied the text of my topic from this account. Describing the situation. From this account I created a topic on your forum. But some of the information in the topic has become irrelevant.
The fact is that due to a force majeure situation, we were forced to change the domain of the site that we wrote about in the created topic. Due to the fact that we cannot change the login of this account, we created a new account and wanted to publish a topic with up-to-date information from it. After registering a new account(Hi******ey), we saw a notification that our account was banned. If necessary, I will write the content of the notification below.
We ask you to help resolve the issue and cancel the ban of your account.

I read the previous conversation thread and it’s good to shift to this request. However you should indicate the username of the account you are requesting to unban since the moderator will not gonna guess what’s your account username by providing an incomplete username. Make the username public so that it will official request from you to unban that specific account.

Avoid posting outside the Meta to avoid being ban again here in the forum.

We ask you to unblock your account - Hill.money

First of all seems like you are a bit poor in grammar; it should be "our" not "your". It is understandable why you copied the texts before heh.
Secondly, it would be better if you could also post a link to your banned user profile. I can't find a profile with that username with the help of searchbar or anywhere else.

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Edit:
Global mods are now aware of his username since one of his last  posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440972.msg61810720#msg61810720) (in which he mentioned his username) was last edited by hilariousandco.

We apologize for the error in the text. That's right, our account is Hill.money.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3534725

In Op's first thread he tried to hide his username and now he has created an official ban appeal thread and instead of him to provide the username of the account he wishes to be unbanned he's still trying to hide it as if there's someone here trying to steal the account or something.

And if you check the previous thread you'll notice that Op didn't just tell us the username willingly, it was after LoyceV provided that list and some users which includes Fatfork and Eureka_07 were able to prove which the account that Op was trying to hide that was when Op finally admitted it.

"We"? I read the OP and saw that plural third person pronoun "We" crisscrossing that post. I thought it was an error but now I'm beginning to think it wasn't. It's a company account? I checked the profile link you put out here but there's no post in that account to know what happened. I guess you deleted them by yourself? Besides, that account was registered in the second week in February this year and got banned a few days later. I'm thinking the spam was much and irritating that mods couldn't bear to ignore and let go.

Yes, we are used to addressing forum users as "you", and writing from ourselves as "we".
We initially did not know whether it was possible to disclose the user's login.
We provided information on the account that needs to be unblocked, and we also provided a link. The admin (moderator) of the forum knows what actions were performed from the Hill.money account
We appeal directly to the admin (moderator) of the forum with a request to unban.

I think you are making everything complicated over here, if you must know whenever you have been ban over here you don't have any power to make another account due to your previous ban and also copying a text from another user is highly prohibited otherwise is known as plagiarism. From your statement "we" are you team of anything?
Well I am sorry as your chances of appealing might be very slim to get unbanned.

Why did you copy and when you copied why don't you reference it, even if it's your own previously made post you copied it must be referenced properly.


Haven't you read the rules and regulations, as you have copied those content you would have just quoted them and place the link that it's from your former account, whereas if that former account was banned then it's another case entirely that calls for ban evasion, op no one is against your staying on this forum if you're law abiding, maybe you go through the forum's rules and regulations again to learn more.

I guess your old account was banned simply because of spam and yet here you are committing the same mistake by creating a double account unban thread, because don't be surprise if this your new account gets limited once again, because your old thread was quite good enough to have discuss whatever issue you wanted to or plead for your in an request.

I believe the moderators are on your case and they will threat it with leniency because you are totally unaware of how things work in this forum and with time you will understand so that you and your company will have a good stay here.

I'll recommend that you read Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) while you wait for the moderators action and avoid posting anywhere else in this forum apart from this thread with this appealing account.

Your use of the word "our" here indicates that there are other people who are in charge of the account. Those who have custody of the account may post using the account.

Why are you so upset that this account, which you refer to as "our account," has been banned? It is a newly created account that is a week old. It has no posts (posts deleted), and no single merit

Probably because "they" want to use their account name to promote their business and website with the same domain name. Personally, I wouldn't do it that way, but seems like they wanna distance themselves from their old domain (dunno why tho).

Can someone of the global moderators to unblock his account? Hill.money https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3534725

So, your new exchange is the hill.money site, and what is the status of the old Olimpchange whose content you copied and only changed the name and emails? I don't want to visit either one, so I am just asking. Are both of them going to operate at the same time, will one domain be taken offline, or will it redirect to the newer hill.money site?

We were forced to change the domain. The old topic from the Olimpchange account is irrelevant, as well as the specified site name, contacts, because the account login cannot be changed and all users would have a question why the login and the link to the site do not match, which is why we created a new account.  We ask you to help unlock your account.

Speaking of which, I couldn't help but notice that you're using the BestChange logo on your website to make it seem more trustworthy. However, I did some digging and noticed that neither "hill.money" nor "Olimpchange" are listed on BestChange's website as verified exchanges. We've seen similar situations before where exchanges falsely claimed to be associated with BestChange, only to turn out to be scams.

I'm not saying that's the case here, but it would be helpful if you could explain your partnership with BestChange (if there is one), and maybe even check with them to confirm it.

The logos of "bestchange" were automatically placed by our developers, because in any case, it is planned to be placed in this monitoring. At the moment, we have removed the logos and will place them only after they are included in the monitoring.
Previously, the whole situation was described, the Olimpchange account and the site are not relevant, so we created a new Hill.money account and tried to post a new topic from a new account. Unfortunately, we did not know that such a problem could arise. We apologize for the current situation.
We kindly ask you to help with the account unban.

it really sounds a little twisted to me that developers "automatically" add a logo to an external site, which is not even a partner at that moment. especially if it is someone who can significantly increase your credibility.

otherwise, how far did you go with acceptance into Best_Change monitoring?


I am not sure what is the real reason why you changed the name and domain in such a short time, but I think you should be active here (and unbanned), because you currently offer some kind of service and it is important that users can have another channel for conversation with you.
If anything goes wrong with your business, people usually come here to complain. So you need to be active here.

if I remember correctly, one member was also banned for a similar mistake, but his ban was lifted because he actively offered loans and it was important that he remain present for his clients.

I also support the unban request, there is no doubt on my part that this was just a minor accident. This ban appeal is also made by the original topic poster.

Anyway, some start asking questions outside the context of account recovery, (it's reputation related). It would be better to open a new topic on the appropriate board.

Ah, the same old "blame it on developers" excuse that we heard so many time before in the past. But even if it was indeed their fault and they put it there without your approval, you didn't think that its misleading to keep that logo on your website because you simply weren't listed there as of yet?

The fact that someone else had to warn you about that says something.

OP first step of action when banned is to respond to the email address appearing on his ban notice for a first appeal, then open a thread and also appeal openly, the chances of getting unbanned if it's permanent ban is very low, if the community and the moderator that place the ban considers his commitment and contributions to the forum, he may likely be given a second chance, this would have been more possible to achieve of it were to be a temporary ban, the mistake most people do is that they don't read the rules and once they go against it, they will always want to be given a second chance, now left for the moderator to decide base on the conviction he received, and at OP how long will you continue with the bump of this thread just to continuously make it noticed.

Maybe it is the mention of some of the moderators to pay attention to your appeal. Only one of them can unban your account.
For example, Cyrus or hilariousandco

This is one of those appeals which should be listened to as it is a genuine case and there no hint of cheating here.


Let's see when they unban this account or how much time they would take to unban. Perhaps a PM to the mods may help. Global moderator needs to do this job as asked by xandry on Feb 26.
Its still banned as checked here https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3534725

It could take some time, they've definitely seen it. There might be some investigation involved to decide the outcome, but I'd be quite confident in saying that they've seen the appeal or perhaps they've decided against lifting the ban.

It shouldn't have been made live, although it's mad how many times I've heard this excuse. Usually, developers that you've hired will give you a preview before going live, and you work out the fine details, and eventually make it live. However, there's usually a review process, and ultimately your responsible for who you hire, and what you put out.

Since, I haven't looked at exactly what was copied, and the exact situation since it needs someone with the correct permissions, I don't know how complex the situation is. So it might take a little bit for it all to be reviewed.

One of the very few things that I don't like about bitcointalk is that people never get response (or maybe they do?)from forum staff in similar situations if their decision is negative. I understand that no answer is a kind of answer as well, but how hard it would be to say "your request has been denied because of xy and decision has been final" or something along those lines, instead just letting people bump their appeal threads for months of even years in some cases.

I guess that's forum policy but a little bit more transparency in that regard would be nice imho.

Do you happen to use Discord?
I am on the Bitcointalk Discord server and Cyrus is fairly active there and it has been at least an instance of him/her letting someone know about a ban reversal in the past though that medium of communication. In fact, Cyrus was talking there yesterday night.

If you can, try to join the server and tell him/her to check out this case.

Isn't that the risk of creating a public topic? If you want a direct response from Admin, send a PM. If you're still ignored, take a hint ;)

I always assume Admin to be omnipresent :D From what I've seen, incorrect bans are investigated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4601461.msg41539819#msg41539819) and usually resolved quickly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369632.msg58368696#msg58368696). In most cases, however, unban requests aren't deserved and get ignored.

Well, I don't like the ignore part and that's what I would like to see changed.

The way I see it, if members have the right to create appeal threads, the least they could get is an answer, especially if they are not brand new accounts. It not like we see dozens of those every day here on Meta so mods would be overrun.

Please help me with the account unban

Maybe nobody wants to say "no" on behalf of everyone, and nobody wants to say "yes" either. An official negative reply would close the door for any other Mod or Admin to unban the account.

too many "maybes" for such a banal matter, something that only one moderator can solve in a minute. assumptions and guesses are not the best final solution.

I am surprised that one of the moderators supported the appeal, and no one is still responding.
I thought all moderators had direct communication with the admins and Global moderators (as they are working for the same platform). But, I got puzzled to see xandry trying to get attention from global moderators within the forum. But it also makes sense since this is Bitcoin Community, and everyone here tries to remain anonymous. Maybe xandry doesn't want to bother them outside the forum.

Everyone maybe doesn't like anyone contacted outside the forum for forum-related issues. mprep wrote that on his website

Thanks for the advice, but Welsh has already written that everyone who needs to have seen this topic. I'm just reminding of its relevance. And the
need to contact the forum staff through alternative channels like discord is a pretty bad sign, don't you think? This section of the forum is needed specifically for this.

The topic is not relevant. The issue is resolved. Thanks!

Congrats! Now click "lock topic" (bottom-left).