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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: albon on February 27, 2023, 07:19:19 PM



Title: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper - Laminatrade.com
Post by: albon on February 27, 2023, 07:19:19 PM
What happened: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper
BM's Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3512729
Suspect's Website: https://laminatrade.com/ | archived (https://archive.ph/Kyze9)
Suspect's Bounty thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5437427.0 | archived (https://archive.is/ksguI)
Suspect's Whitepaper: https://laminatrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/pdf_20230120_095025_0000.pdf | archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20230123100457/https://laminatrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/pdf_20230120_095025_0000.pdf)

Plagiarized Sources:
[1] https://dash2trade.com/assets/documents/Whitepaper.pdf
[2] https://mizar.com/mzr-token


Some screenshot for easy view:
https://i.postimg.cc/KYM5KLbd/1-tile.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/zfKnDrSN/22-tile.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/rFhmCzHM/322-tile.jpg



Additional Notes:

The bounty manager should stop promoting it, and the bounty hunters should stop working, as there are 74 pages on the BOUNTY TOPIC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5437427.0) so far.


Title: Re: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper - Laminatrade.com
Post by: holydarkness on February 27, 2023, 08:56:24 PM
Very good job, OP. I take a look after their whitepaper and found another snippet that they copied (https://archive.ph/ktkR6) from another project called "Captain Glory"[1].

https://i.ibb.co/fvSJSQt/Plagiarized-presale.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
 https://i.ibb.co/d20FM7s/Real-source-presale.png (https://imgbb.com/)

I also ran a check through their team and found something interesting, that they dared to use the real names of the people they use as their team, but the backgrounds described on the suspect's website and their real job history clearly shows they're not connected to this project at all and their name is being used without them being aware of it.

The three that I found:

https://i.ibb.co/4JJsbCx/Team.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/DzVSd7Q/Matthias.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)https://i.ibb.co/znq8h56/Terrence.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/HHb0V91/Angela-details.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)https://i.ibb.co/6gpJp6b/Angela-according-to-them.jpg (https://ibb.co/NZknkwp)



As for the BM, they currently have a questionable project (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5437685.0) before that's raised against them --initially built on a wrong basis, but it developed into a possible scam with the newfound foundation-- it's quite unfortunate that Mr. Mattei is yet to reply me on TG to seal the case.

I've been wanting to take a deeper look at the BM, as a quick glance at their projects gave an impression to me that they just blindly accepting poor quality and borderline questionable projects, but my weeks has been quite crazy these days. I hope I can do a thorough scan trough the project they promoted in a near future.

Have you notified the BM for this case?



[1]I'd like to mention that the name is somewhat familiar to my brain, it kept tugging a thread that I cant grasp that I think I've read the name somewhere on this forum, but a quick search with Ninjastic brought no result, so maybe it's just my imagination and it's just another project that never stepped their foot on this forum.


Title: Re: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper - Laminatrade.com
Post by: CryptSafe on February 28, 2023, 02:24:49 AM
Do bounty managers really take out time to read and go through such details to giving attention to them before launch of the bounty? If the managers do this i think the project team would have taken their time to make changes immediately after observation and another thing to note in  this post as regards to this project is that it might likely be a scam. From your observation about the team members they presented here which are not in any way related to the project, i think they are up to something and if the bounty manager is not aware of this then i suggest his or her attention should be called to this immediately to rectify this error before it goes beyond what the forum can not comprehend. As it is in the early stage now i think that bounty should be called to a halt till  further investigations surrounding the team behind this project is concluded.


Title: Re: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper - Laminatrade.com
Post by: yhiaali3 on February 28, 2023, 04:47:34 AM
Another good investigation. good job.

I was surprised when I found that there are 74 pages in the Bounty thread without anyone noticing that this is a scam project, but when I browsed some pages, I found that more than 90% of the subscribers in the Bounty are Newbies.

I can understand that most of these subscribers do not care about their reputation, but what I do not understand is how they waste their time and effort promoting the scam project.


Title: Re: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper - Laminatrade.com
Post by: Cantsay on February 28, 2023, 07:48:14 AM
I was surprised when I found that there are 74 pages in the Bounty thread without anyone noticing that this is a scam project, but when I browsed some pages, I found that more than 90% of the subscribers in the Bounty are Newbies.

It's no surprise bounty hunters don't even care whether the project they are promoting is a scam or no as long as they receive their weekly stakes with or without payment.
I bet even with this discovering most bounty hunters will still continue the promotion of the promotion as long as the manager is still actively checking their weekly reports. That's the major reason why when I see them complaining of not been paid for their shit work I don't even feel anything for them.


Title: Re: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper - Laminatrade.com
Post by: examplens on February 28, 2023, 12:05:47 PM
I was surprised when I found that there are 74 pages in the Bounty thread without anyone noticing that this is a scam project, but when I browsed some pages, I found that more than 90% of the subscribers in the Bounty are Newbies.

It's no surprise bounty hunters don't even care whether the project they are promoting is a scam or no as long as they receive their weekly stakes with or without payment.
I bet even with this discovering most bounty hunters will still continue the promotion of the promotion as long as the manager is still actively checking their weekly reports. That's the major reason why when I see them complaining of not been paid for their shit work I don't even feel anything for them.

they will be paid in some worthless tokens. then there is no room for any complaints because they got what was promised. there both parties get the same, shit payments for shit work.
Has anyone tried contacting the bounty manager to stop this or do we have to give him a negative tag because of his participation in the scam project?

as far as I can see, Laminatrade does not have its representative here, nor has an ANN thread opened. They are obviously not interested in this forum, except to collect more retweets and sharing of their story.


Title: Re: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper - Laminatrade.com
Post by: albon on February 28, 2023, 05:55:35 PM
they will be paid in some worthless tokens. then there is no room for any complaints because they got what was promised. there both parties get the same, shit payments for shit work.
Has anyone tried contacting the bounty manager to stop this or do we have to give him a negative tag because of his participation in the scam project?

as far as I can see, Laminatrade does not have its representative here, nor has an ANN thread opened. They are obviously not interested in this forum, except to collect more retweets and sharing of their story.
I will try to contact the manager of the bounty via his account on Telegram @samil507 for him to stop it until he sees this scam accusation and takes any action.

Update: After I contacted the bounty manager, he closed the bounty topic, and I hope he will not repeat his mistake again and give himself enough time to do his own research before promoting projects he does not know. [The funny thing is that he hasn't been paid for his work yet, Really unprofessional manager]

Yes, that's right. Laminatrade does not have an ANN thread here in the forum, and this bounty is to increase their followers and increase their popularity on social media sites to deceive and mislead traders, and in the end, as you mentioned, they either paid any shitcoins to the bounty hunters, or they did not pay anything.


Title: Re: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper - Laminatrade.com
Post by: examplens on February 28, 2023, 09:11:06 PM
Update: After I contacted the bounty manager, he closed the bounty topic, and I hope he will not repeat his mistake again and give himself enough time to do his own research before promoting projects he does not know. [The funny thing is that he hasn't been paid for his work yet, Really unprofessional manager]

I'm glad to hear that the manager has closed this campaign, nevertheless, he feels at least a little responsibility. at least one of the plagues was stopped.
yes, quite unprofessional or maybe just naive. I can understand that (new and inexperienced) managers accept all deals just to get a job. Although in the end it mostly ends up as free work for scammers.


Title: Re: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper - Laminatrade.com
Post by: ScamViruS on February 28, 2023, 10:16:09 PM
I was surprised when I found that there are 74 pages in the Bounty thread without anyone noticing that this is a scam project, but when I browsed some pages, I found that more than 90% of the subscribers in the Bounty are Newbies.

It's no surprise bounty hunters don't even care whether the project they are promoting is a scam or no as long as they receive their weekly stakes with or without payment.
I bet even with this discovering most bounty hunters will still continue the promotion of the promotion as long as the manager is still actively checking their weekly reports. That's the major reason why when I see them complaining of not been paid for their shit work I don't even feel anything for them.

Bounty hunters never do the slightest bit of research on a project before joining a campaign. They join the bounty campaign and do the tasks without worrying about whether they will get paid or not.
And what else will they get from such projects except worthless tokens! A project team that copies the content of their project's Whitepaper from another project's Whitepaper, can we expect anything better from that team?


Title: Re: Plagiarized site & Whitepaper - Laminatrade.com
Post by: holydarkness on March 03, 2023, 09:58:50 PM
[...]
Update: After I contacted the bounty manager, he closed the bounty topic, and I hope he will not repeat his mistake again and give himself enough time to do his own research before promoting projects he does not know. [The funny thing is that he hasn't been paid for his work yet, Really unprofessional manager]

[...]

Umm... I think you've just got bamboozled by them. Yes, they locked the bounty thread and it's no longer available for any post for proof of posting on TG or twitter, but I think that's more because the campaign has already ended, so the BM essentially has nothing to lose. His job is done, he locked the thread as "a show of remorse" while there's actually not much difference whether he left it open or closed.

https://i.ibb.co/D9ZzX4w/Duration.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)