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I am still confused, what is the ideal brand-new or newbie account to do 1st before creating any post and thread?

1. Create bitcoin address and stake it here: Stake your Bitcoin address here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.11740)
2. going to Beginners & Help (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0) and learning all about forum on sticky post

Because when staking the address, the newbie account must have a bitcoin wallet where that information has on sticky post.

As I feel, many members here don't know anything about bitcoin, they don't know how to create a bitcoin wallet, but very experienced with metamask and trust wallet, which I think is a very strange person in the world.

Ideally, they should spend some time reading the rules (especially if its their first time on a forum) but this is just a discussion forum, there are no rules what you have to do.


That's probably because vast majority of people that are new to crypto are altcoiners. They often (wrongly) think that its too late to invest in bitcoin so that makes them turn to altcoins instead.

I think any newbie should read the unofficial rules first in order to learn about the rules in this forum, especially if they're plagiarism and it would make them get banned.

Stake a Bitcoin address isn't that important, as long as you've mentioned your address anywhere in this forum, you're fine as long as you can sign from that's address.

A newbie doesn't need to go to Beginners & Help section, he can learn from any board which he interested.

It's not strange if they not know about Bitcoin wallet, because Trust wallet support Bitcoin, so they think why they need to have a specific wallet for Bitcoin? but if they've learn from read few threads in this forum, they will know how important is Bitcoin wallet that offer to verify signature and open source.

You mean newbie accounts? Because not all newbie accounts has "newbie" knowledge.
Well, reading and following the forum rules is the first thing they should. Staking address is optional, it's not that important, account recovery can be done even using the email they used in registration.

Many? How many you think? ^{(Not that important anyway)}. Creating trustwallet can create bitcoin wallet though. If you're referring the wallet like electrum, well, this depends on what wallet they are used to use because electrum has different vibe and look than the other good UI and UX wallets especially in mobile wallets where most newbies are using.

Click on "more" from the top menu. https://bitcointalk.org/more.php

https://i.ibb.co/Bw7P8zY/image.png (https://imgbb.com/)

there are most of the most important links for getting to know the forum and its rules better.
I assume that a real Newbie does not know that there are important pinned posts in Beginners & Help section.
and they should first read and get to know the forum at least a little, before opening useless topics

Newbies should do whatever brought them here. In my case, that was complaining about faucet captchas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853374.msg10589007#msg10589007). There's no need to stake an address or jump through any other hoops. If they're what I consider "real Bitcoin users", they'll be fine.

Those aren't Bitcoin users, they use Bitcointalk for other things.

To be honest, mostly nothing. You can simply immediately start just talking about stuff you're interested in concerning bitcoin/crypto/investing/economics. No need to make Bitcointalk so formal that there should be a chronological order on what to do.

And yea sure don't plagiarize and yadda yadda and all those rules, but most of the rules should be common knowledge by now for any other platform.

Let them do whatever they came here to do. I feel like we put a lot of expectations on new users because of the culture here. It's turned to a very business minded culture, which a lot of new users just want to ask their questions, and not necessarily continue posting from there on out, and that's fine. It's what brought a lot of us here, to just ask a simple question, and then we likely started reading a little more on the forum, and it hooked us.

Not every new user is here to go join a signature campaign, and earn money, but it seems we're very suspicious from the get go, which turns into hostility, and new users are less likely to stay. Staking a address isn't needed for most new users, and when they do come to doing it, they should probably do it with a securely generated address, which I imagine a lot of new users haven't got when first joining.

Create account, log out and log in.
Read forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg7955645#msg7955645) and sticky topics
[Bitcointalk sticky threads] Newbies - read before starting. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279088.msg55287488#msg55287488)
Read forum help: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=help
Use forum search: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search

Newbies have to read and search for reading more.
In Beginners & Help, it has a sticky thread Newbies - Read before posting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0)

Depends, for example, anyone trying to advertise NSFW content, a nude would be great. I believe other members covered the rest, I just said what wasn't mentioned.😂

Exactly, this must be your first thing to do and it begins with reading the forums rules and regulations here, going through the sticky threads and learning first from what the forum offers and is all about learning about Bitcoin from boards applicable to Bitcoin discussion,  when you follow the ideal protocol it will be easy for you to understand the system or forum better than jumping up and down creating no value to the community because you have nothing to offer, only those that has passed through the learning ground have something they can deliver with best quality as expected.

Well, let the user get here first and let them do what they want. Nobody is obliged to search the Beginners & Help Board if they don't want to. No one has to do a in-depth Bitcoin research if they don't want to.

However, there is some common sense: When you sign up for a new website, you usually familiarize yourself with the rules and read the relevant threads with the basic instructions.

And since Bitcointalk is a Bitcoin forum, it wouldn't be bad if you could get a basic understanding of Bitcoin afterwards. Although, if a user doesn't want to do that, that's their right and we shouldn't force them.

There’s no need to rush on Stake Bitcoin address because they might use multiple wallet along the way while that thread purposed is for verifying ownership of the account in the future. When I’m a newbie, I have a lot of wallet address because I always change address after I use it on a transaction.

I believe reading stickies on Meta and Beginners & Help is the best thing to do by newbie to become a established member that can engage on a informative discussion.

If a newbie of this forum follows the rules given here, he will surely know about the forum. Because here everything is mentioned from the beginning to the end. The longer a new member stays active in the forum the more he can learn. In this case he has to go and post in different sections of this forum and learn many more educational things.

Click link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.msg1861412#msg1861412

The link has lots of updated information which you can follow. A newbie is more senior members posts and rules and DT1 & DT2 them You can definitely learn a lot if you follow.

https://i.imgur.com/Gd0wJKC.jpg

Through this image, you can also know the details about the rank up of the account. All information about activity post and merit is also provided.

If you stake a bitcoin address when you've just registered, you're probably not getting your account recovered anyway, you could wait a month or two for that (unless you really love your username).

The majority of newbies would probably register an account and make a post straight away. A lot of newbies will have been lingering on the forum for a month or a quarter before making their posts so will know more about what's expected of them. I think the lingering before making an account or a post might be more "ideal" but it might be unnecessary too (similar to reading the rules here - even though both would give them a better understanding of what and how to write).

When I was newbie, what I first did was that, I introduced myself at local board, I read through the rules and regulations on the forum, I also look for a way to be active on the forum and try my best to make meaningful contributions under topics, if I have issues I need to rectify, I ask other members for help....

I'm not quite sure how you formed that impression, although you might be right about metamask.  There are a lot of bounty hunters here who get paid in ERC20 tokens (if I'm not mistaken; I don't how they're paying out these days) and who otherwise might not know about or even be interested in bitcoin.  That's pretty sad, isn't it?

And yeah, I concur with everyone who said to read the rules before doing anything else.  Unfortunately it doesn't matter how many times that's written in posts, because newbies keep coming here and doing all sorts of crap that's against the rules.

There is no such rules in bitcointalk, and staking bitcoin address can be helpful with recovering your account incase if gets hacked but if you don't want to post any of your bitcoin address for privacy reasons then you can keep posting without staking any address too.

I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all type of response in this as it's different strokes for different folks. People come to this forum with different intentions in mind and it will really not be easy trying to streamline everyone's attitude. As that may be, I don't think it's necessary for newbies to stake their wallet addresses here. They should grow their accounts first before anything. The most important thing newbies should do is read and read to gain knowledge and then respect the rules and regulations of this forum to stay out of trouble.

You seee, sometimes it seems that since we've been repeating the same thing for years now, there's every possibilty that peeps already knew every tips to make an account; on the other hand, it ain't true.
I'm not disputing the fact that different sites ain't got similar rules yunno,(say perhaps should be a normal thing), but as long as these rookies keep asking valid questions - matterless of how many times it's been answered -- an answer should be provided or atleast a good reference would also do. You've given a nice objection and yeah?? Alot of peeps that are flaunting the rules today don't even know them.

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It basically depends on the type of person creating an account. If the newbie account is business related, it should first buy a cooper membership in the forum before making an ANN thread (so that the images are visible to others). Usually, business related newbie accounts dont stake their btc addresses. But need to read the forum rules (especially the no plagiarism rule) :P

How does a beginner get a wallet and sign it if he is a beginner? I think that any average person who comes to any forum will first go through different sections to get comfortable. In addition, the platform is international, so any beginner should find their native language, and first, communicate with their immediate people who speak their native language.
But this whole topic again translates into manuals, which are full of other sections, and which beginners still do not read.

Irrespective of the kind of account a user is willing to operate with, once you create an account here and sign in, you need to go through the boards and check what each constitute and from there you will discover the titles and read up threads that specifically talks about newbies on this forum, rules and regulations, posting etiquettes, beginners and help section, if you dont get used to the forum first, how will you discover what's expected of you.

I see that the first thing a newbies should do before starting writing here in the forum is to learn, newbies need first and foremost to read the rules of the forum.

After that, they have to go around the different sections of the forum, especially the beginners section, and try to learn everything about Bitcoin, because this is a Bitcoin forum in the first place.

After they get enough knowledge they can start writing topics with important ideas and start building reputation in the forum.

Of course, there are some members who have a lot of experience in Bitcoin and Crypto, but they are late in registering in the forum, such as these, they can start writing immediately because they have sufficient experience in advance.

Well, not newbie accounts are literally newbies, some of them might have enough knowledge from their experience or by reading though the forum before finally creating an account.

But yeah, for newcomers, if you want to just learn, then explore the forum. Try learning the structure first, boards, sections, threads, etc.
In my opinion, it depends on the users' preference... it boils down to things like what they want to know and explore. Meta and beginners & help boards are good head-start though.

In my opinion, a newbie ideally would lurk a bit around here so they can tell how the dynamics of the forum are, and hopefully realize that plagiarism is against the rules.
From there (if they have enough common sense) they can participate with simple messages until they learn how to sign and verify a message, moving onto staking one of their addresses.

Reading the rules and staking an address, while important, I honestly doubt most of newbies do that at first; me being a good example, because I initially just asked some silly questions and made comments on other's threads.

If they are complete novices new to bitcoin and the bitcointalk forum then I guess 99.9% of them fall into confusion about where to start. So they definitely need time and guidance before they finally know where to start. But it will be different for those who have known bitcoin for long time, know about wallet, but are not on the forum. This will allow them to learn faster and better discuss bitcoin.

The first step that you think is very appropriate, but I think the majority of beginners today have received guidance or have mentor before even registering their account. So their chances of getting lost are much lower than without mentor or by self-taught.

Your way is a good option and it will helpful to the newbie who enter in this forum. But all and for most a newbie must know the rules and regulations first on the forum before they do something.  Because once they don't know the forum rules then there's a chance that they can make against the rules. So they must know it first and then start searching using the search button. Because learning is must wherever you go.

This is a good thing because if his account is hacked or locked for some reason, it will be possible to recover the account by signing the message of that bitcoin address. I appreciate for this activities.

I think it would be more convenient for that person to ask his local board about his problem or any needed help than Beginners & Help. He can learn a lot from Beginners & Help, but  he can understand many times faster then B&H then from local board. And meta will inform him/her about all the important rules and facilities of this forum so it is very important to follow the Meta board as well.

This question is too much subjective and the answer varies from person to person. The key point is that a Newbie on bitcointalk may not necessarily mean that he is newbie in the crypto world. There can be chances that he knows well about bitcoin and now he discovers this forum and make an account here. In this case, he will already have an bitcoin address and can do stuff like staking it. However, a newie who is totally new, he may not find staking bitcoin address easy initially.

I guess the first thing which any type of user should do on this forum is to read the rules of the forum and get aquatinted with it.

Going to the beginners and help boards to learn about the forum should be encouraged first; their discoveries there could lead them to learning more about the security involved in saving in bitcoin and broadening their horizons about bitcoin and a proper forum guide.


Even people with no prior knowledge of the internet or programming can create Metamask and Trust wallet. I could easily make one by watching a YouTube video or getting help from someone who has already done so. So it's not surprising that members have no knowledge of bitcoin and are more familiar with metamask and trust wallet. The security that comes with creating a bitcoin wallet makes it unique amongst others, thereby staking an address becomes hard for a beginner without prior knowledge of bitcoin.

If that's the case then they have started on the wrong foot, it should be Bitcoin first before anything else anything than this is a wrong start, Bitcoin is a truly decentralized coin, and many coins and tokens that follow are centralized so they are missing something very important in their journey to Cryptocurrency.
Those who invested in altcoins before Bitcoin, probably are bounty hunters and airdrops participants, so it's recommended that Bitcoin should have the biggest part of your portfolio.

Yeah, when it comes to the forum or any forum, the first thing that is expected of a newbie is to go through the rules. Am just glad Rikafip did come up with that because, on every introductory thread by a newbie, it's always the first response you would find and a link to them rules.
Unfortunately, the rules remains the most ignored until it gots broken, either by the individual or someone else before it drags one's attention to it. A few might seek the rules first but, not so sure for most.

The next, you get to scavenge the forum to see what it is about, how much freedom you've got, lots of reading and the others would be discovered as you ride along.

I received many arguments about point no.1, yes I know almost newbies here don't know about bitcoin what else of creating wallets. (but expert on smart contract, defi, dapp, doge which look funny to me)
 
what the newbie must to noted is, they came on bitcoin forum where they must know that very basics of bitcoin like offline wallet. If they know that basic knowledge I really sure they be save, they will not lose the money and be scammed here.

Almost newbies come to crypto world, especially on this forum got scammed by keeping the fund on online wallet, exchange or any third party., they don't know how to sign a message offline and stake it here.

The reality is for a lot of new users is they're coming to the forum to learn more about Bitcoin, and they don't have a whole lot of knowledge. Some might have just heard of Bitcoin, and don't own any. In fact, I'd probably say the vast majority of new users don't own any Bitcoin. That's alright, I don't believe I owned any when I first joined the forum.

Asking them to stake an address so early could actually be a security risk. They need to learn the very fundamentals of security first, and to be honest there's not much to protect early on when your account is new. So, I wouldn't worry about staking of an address. I've used addresses in the past that were online wallets, I've made that mistake, and I can guarantee many experienced users that are now using offline wallets or hardware wallets have used online wallets before. I feel these days, people are more aware don't get me wrong, but when I first joined I didn't really value Bitcoin as much as fiat, and therefore I didn't look after it nearly as much as I do today.

New users come here to ask whatever they want. If that's altcoin related or Bitcoin related it doesn't matter to me.

I would also say that if you are seeing it as open discussion forum then you don't need to follow any particular procedures and just start with engaging in different conversations putting forward your point through your posts or if not then gain knowledge with various threads on forum.

But most newbies run behind merits in the first case in order to rank up because they want to take part in signature campaigns to earn some amount and this is where they make mistakes by copy pasting some articles or violating any other forum rules which is why it's advisable to go through forum rules in the first case and then start your journey on the forum.

It is unlikely that newcomers to the forum begin their journey by reading the rules on the bitcointalk. Usually they immediately create a topic on the question they are interested in, without even checking the existence of similar topics with already available answers to their question.

If you dig a little deeper, many people just read the forum without creating an account here. After a while they do it.


True, there is such an illusion that bitcoin is already expensive. Satochi is still cheap ~0.000224$. Can buy 10, 100, 1000. It's not too late to do it.

On the other hand, some newbie also know how forums work before they even start posting.
So not all newbies have to be the same, some of them are already familiar enough with online forum that understanding the rules and how different forum work is the most likely thing for them to do since signing up.

That's just the most common thing most newbie do, but we shouldn't generalize that all newbie are the same.
Not even all newbie are interested in discussing something useful with other users on the forum, creating topics and responding to other users' posts. While they are only very focused on making money as bounty hunters.

There are many people who don't read, that's why you see many questions on the beginner & Help section, like when I begin using this forum there were lots of questions in mind to asked but what came into my mind was why do I want to ask questions while there have been lots of threads and topics created here for people to read and understand what the forum is saying about, most times I feel ashamed of how people asked some silly questions knowing too well that they have asked those questions over times here.

So to cut the story short, all newbies are meant to familiarize themselves with the rules, don't and does of the forum, along side they will come across staking their wallet as well.

Every beginner on this forum should first and foremost read the forum rules before any other thing, this is very important as it helps equip them with knowledge about the forum, and from the rules, they can learn  to stay away from doing things that could have their account banned.

Personally, I think they the idea of staking a bitcoin wallet should come much later when the user have started Ranking up, this is based on the fact that the main purpose why we are required to stake a bitcoin address is to be able to recover our bitcointalk account just incase we lose it to hackers or so, and I believe that no hacker in their right mind would be interested in hacking a newbie or even a junior member ranked account, so the idea of staking a bitcoin address should come much later when the user have become an established user of this forum with a rank higher than newbie and junior member..
This is just my thought and opinion though.

I think it's okay to sign bitcoin message since Newbie or Jr Member, it's an early stage of learning for new users on forum. I remember about this, OgNasty has invited many newbie to sign the message and rewarded them with merit. I was one of the newbie doing it at the time, see the topic: [Merit] Hey Newbies! Can You Sign A Message? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300698.0)

This means you don't have to wait to rank up and become an established user to sign messages. So even newbie can do it for security and whatever. The thread is now inactive, but will probably be bumping when newbie notice.

Newbies should be more concerned on reading sticky post in B&H and Meta,so that they can understand how things are done here. Posting should be the last thing on their mind because if they take their time to read,they will have so many ideas on what to post.

This shouldn't be a problem,since they are new and don't read,they might not know the most secured wallet to use. On the other side some of them are here on a different purpose and not to be part of the forum activities, based in their selfish desires.

that was I mean, I try to suggest newbie staked his address here first because that is an initial foundation to continue the bitcoin world. it becomes an important entrance to this forum. So if the newbie is able to sign a message (offline wallet) with his bitcoin address, they can manage his found without 3rd party exchange, or an online wallet where the newbie never owns the private key which makes him lose forever his bitcoin, and makes a noise on scam accusation board.

Read this and that — I personally find it overwhelming. Here is what I'd suggest.

if you really like it here, stick around. Have questions? First do a Google search (add 'bitcointalk' term in it if you want your query to be found here) — I find it better than our own forum's search. Can't find answer? Create topic. Engage in topics where you actually feel like doing so.

In real life when someone gets or buys a new gadget they don't understand or know how to use, first instinct is to use the manual to get around the item and then proceed with using it.. Same concept should apply on the forum,read the pinned message's to give you the do's and don'ts of the forum and then proceed.. For some it will be a hands on experience and that works for just don't put yourself in trouble with plagiarism which might have been ignored on other forums.

Not even a bank gives loans to its first time customers, out of curiosity how did you arrive at this  ???

This forum is a forum where all kinds of discussions are done.  So a user should first know which board to discuss which topic.  Means which board is applicable for which topic otherwise they will go to the wrong board and do different types of spamming. And must be aware of forum rules

This is a good step and in case of any problem with the account like (hack or locked) it will be possible to recover the account using that bitcoin address.

If any user wants to ask any question then he can ask in this board and different members will help him.  So this board can also be important for a new user. But if a user wants to learn different things from the forum then he must go through the whole forum and learn different things by his own efforts.

Until the account becomes valuable, I don't see any use for that. Consider losing this account. This is still a throwaway account. If I do not log into the account, leave it and never come back or if anyone hack it and take the ownership then what am I going to lose?

Nothing.

It's not about value,
We have to look at other perspectives.
I wrote that for the long-term investment.
If a newbie or account like you learning to sign messages (where exchange or online wallet can't do that), I really sure this step will make you save and always think shield from any scam trick in the future.

we know bitcoin and crypto-related are very vulnerable to scams. and the biggest scam are from the exchange or wallet where you don't own the private key.

It is always a problem for newcomers to join this forum and begin to discuss without thinking how to approach me.
The set of newcomers that falls into this problem are the ones that were introduced by someone. The person might have told them how best to approach rhe forum and it will now put them in confusion.

An honest newbie that discovwred this place randomly from internet would always want to ask questions and learn from there.
And such a newbie can easily integrate into the forum. To me this is a conversation community. There is no way to join the conversation only to know what is happening and learn.

The first thing a newbie should do in this forum platform is to learn the dos and don'ts in this forum regarding the restrictions and rules that this platform has.

      Then learn to explore each topic category that exists in this forum as well of course. For you to know the sections you want to study first, don't immediately go to technical matters unless you know something about technical matters.

Of course learning that will be very helpful. But this is forum, there are rules and I tend to agree that newbie welcome thread is way more useful than jumping right into random discussion.

Newbie or beginners must understand the rules and procedures for using the forum before they start their journey. They couldn't just agree, reply to random threads, and break the written rules. So the main thing that makes the most sense to me is to understand the forum rules and their usage instead of just replying on random topics. As a result, newbie questions and general discussions about the same thing like [how to rank up or get merit] will no longer be made by many newbies across different boards.