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We are a few days out from UFC 285 and the main event is Jon Jones vs Ciryl Gane.

I think Jon Jones is going to win this fight comfortably and is a deserved favourite going in.

Although Jones is 18kg (almost 40 pounds) lighter, he has a much longer reach advantage.

I have watched a lot of Ciryl and to be honest I wasn't very impressed. He struggled against Ngannou and was dropped by Tuivasa.

I think Jon Jones makes a statement and may even submit Gane.

I'm curious on what everybody else thinks.

Please post your predictions below.

To be fair, Francis Ngannou is too lethal which Bones will have a problem once he faced him. It’s understandable that Gane will fall short against the previous champion. Bones has the advantage here because of his experience and previous record. If Bones maintain his skills set then he can win this easily. Gane movement is easy to read and we know that Bones is so good on counter and sharp attack due to his bloody elbow and knee.

I’m not sure about the odds by my money will go to Bones since his skills is already proven by beating tons of much solid fighter during his active career. I believe he can easily outplayed Gane on this match. Probably submission or k.o on result.

Jones @1.59 and Gane @2.33 on ML. I don't think this match is going the distance so I would rather add the method of winning into the bet. I'm still choosing between Jones by submission or Gane by knockout.

Gane is powerful enough to stun jones with one or two punches while Jones is skillful enough to take down his opponent and choke.

Jones will most likely keep his distance and take Gane down if he gets too close.

I don't understand why we need have one more thread when there's an existing thread where you can discuss any players that will fight in UFC 285, while this thread is only focus to Jones vs Gane.

Here's the thread which currently discuss about UFC 285 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139347.msg61825868#msg61825868)

Anyway I'd choose Gane to win, but I will bet when the date is closer because I want to see if the odds will swing or not, now betting Gane to win is profitable.

It's easy to side with Jones as he had been at the top as GOAT beating several opponents of a different caliber. Being at 35 and bloated his weight, it could be that his agility may be different by now.

On some other threads I visited, some discussions were actually not about him losing but whether will he win by submission or by decision. They seem to be very confident bettors as if Gane can't also strike Jones to KO. We're about to find out.

If you talk about Jones' career in the world of UFC Fighting and Jones fans, maybe not argue I think it's true, many are in favor of Jones rather than CIRYL, especially for UFC sports betting bettors in general, of course those who think Jones is a fighter who can be considered professional and pound-for-pound, but Gane is also a bettor who cannot be underestimated, the proof was against Tai, Derrick, Santos etc., who ended up being KO'd in 2022.

I predict the heavyweight champion in the UFC between Gane vs Jones believe Jones' career will be taken by Gane, with my own reasons.

The UFC thread is already available for discussion of UFC events every week or every PPV so we don't need another thread to specifically discuss UFC, that's what I think instead of discussing the same thing again in the main thread about UFC.

I have watched Gane the last few fights, he had one loss against Ngannou and he has corrected his mistake last fight beat Tai Tuivasa, he will train hard to get back the UFC Heavyweight Championship belt, but I am not familiar with Jones and his fight history maybe he might better than Gane, but he hasn't fought in the octagon for a long time and his last fight will be in 2020,

I can't determine the current opportunities and will review the potential of the two, it's difficult to make a choice because both are great fighters.

I also think that Jon Jones is going to win this fight. It's time to prove again and that he is back with this huge statement win.

There are videos of Jones circulating, and he working on that take down of his and probably this will be his bread and butter in this fight. I'm not expecting this fight to last the full distance though. The under 4.5 rounds looks very attractive at 2.xx odds.

I'm a fan of Jon Jones because of his speed and timing but we need also need to consider that Jon Jones has not fought for a long time while Ciryl Gane fought 6 months ago against TUIVASA, and besides Jones is fighting in a heavyweight for the first time, a division which we have not yet determined if he can carry his speed I voted for Ciryl Gane to win the match, but I'm also comfortable and happy if Jon Jones will pull this one.

Would work not unless Gane would work on this one out. Jon jones has the advantage over record and other stats but given that Gane would be the underdog in this fight, for sure he'd make way to be victorious. This could be a brighter spotlight on his end therefore we may assume a better fighter of him with this fight. As for Jon Jones, he became quiet for the recent years not to mention the unanimous decision which could leave him unsatisfied.
I agree. Experience wise, jones would be more dominant but recency of fight could also be a factor; drive.An interesting match up especially to fans of Bones who are really excited to see him again on the octagon. As for Gane I think he really has nothing to lose which could also be an advantage for him to be confident with this one. Odds are abit huge but I'd more mind enjoying this match up but will also be on Bones' side.

I don't like Jon Jones at all because there is always drama in his fights. There have been a lot of problems with doping, so, I don't know what to expect this time, but I can smell the drama.

I feel like Jon Jones will win this fight, I don't like at all the low odds on Jon because even if he has a better reach I feel like Ciryl has a better KO power. And the fact that Jones hasn't fought in a long time is something that we should consider too.

Jones is a tactical fighter all his moves are calculated I'm sure he studied Gane's moves, his strong point, and weakness, I don't think Ciryl can match his vast experience in wrestling and kickboxing, I have Jon Jones winning here even if he has a long lay off, I have followed his social media account and he keeps himself fit.

I think he knows that there's a huge match that will come along so he keeps himself busy and fit and this is the fight that will put his name on top again.

I think so too. Just like Jones, Gane is also an intelligent fighter who is big yet also can move as quickly as possible. A reason why he fell against Ngannnou was that of the takedowns which he might just avoid this time around with Jones. A mistake he can now correct but he should be the one taking down Jones since he has the shorter reach. It will really startle Jones fans if Gane can do t his and the result is upset by KO.

Jon Jones usually fights according to the strengths of his opponents when he was in Light Heavyweight division, if he faces a striker, he usually tries to out strike the striker and if he is facing a wrestler he usually out wrestle his opponent to prove a point but in the Heavy Weight division i hope he will fight according to his strengths rather than proving a point to the opponent and Jon Jones has one of the best ground and pound in the game and he could finish Gane in the ground with strikes.

There are a lot of angles to the Jon Jones vs Ciryl Gane match up.

Dontale Mayes fought Ciryl Gane back in 2019. It was a close fight up until Gane pulled out a submission win. Dontale Mayes is one of Jon Jones long time teammates. Which means Jones has a training partner who has spent 3 rounds in the cage with Gane. The fight between Dontale Mayes and Ciryl Gane being a close one, is probably the reason Jones isn't giving Gane much credit. Jones said he isn't certain if Gane deserves to be called the most technical kickboxer he has ever faced. But that comment was made towards 2019 Ciryl Gane who had a close fight with Dontale mayes.

All of this could mean Jon Jones is overlooking Gane and not taking him seriously.

I think that Gane has improved tremendously since he fought Jon Jones teammate Dontale Mayes in 2019. Game has become a more technical and dangerous kickboxer.

It all comes down to Jon Jones health. If he spent his time off doing cocaine and drinking alcohol I think Ciryl Gane will beat him. But if Jones shows up healthy and motivated to fight I think he should be able to outwrestled and outgrapple Gane the way that Ngannou did.

Some pros and analysts are claiming Jon Jones might be injured leading into this fight, which is why he's in the pool so often for UFC embeddeds. They say its to protect his injured joints. Which is a similar situation to the one Ngannou was in when he fought Gane. There were many rumors that Ngannou had an injured knee, which could have motivated Gane to pursue a knee lock on the knee he thought was injured. So we can see from history that Jon Jones being injured would not necessarily mean he will lose the fight. Considering Ngannou was confirmed as having an injured knee, when he fought Ciryl Gane.

While, some of that might be true. Jon Jones is an incredible wrestler, and that doesn't require as much explosive power or sharpness. Therefore, he won't feel the rust so much. Unless, Jon Jones decides to strike, and only strike I can him pretty much having this fight the way he wants. If he does just strike, he's basically choosing the hardest path to victory. Even then, he's a pretty damn good striker.

Jon Jones in his prime walks this fight, but who knows what sort of state he's in with this lengthy layoff. Personally, I think he'll be alright.

Those odds are ridiculous, and are insulting for Cyril le Bon Gamin. Jon Jones hasn't fought since 3 years (february 2020) and has never fought in the Heavyweight category before. He is clearly not a HW fighter while Cyril definitely is. So I will definitely bet my money on him because I think real odds are @1.80 for Gane. I think it's a mistake for Jon Jones, to start his come back by doing a fight with a such talented fighter, in a heavier category than his natural one.

What do you mean by that?
Cyril just destroyed Tuivasa with a powerful KO.

https://img.youtube.com/vi/c-6FeaNi-o8/0.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-6FeaNi-o8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-6FeaNi-o8

I'm for Jon Jones here. But I'm curious how he will be in this come back fight. It's been years since he last fought. That was still way back UFC 247 against Reyes which he only won via UD. Even before that, Jones only had a split decision against Thiago. Those couple of last fights might suggest something.

And this come back fight of his will be in the heavyweight division. This is interesting. I agree with the odds, though. Jones will probably be the winner despite his inactivity. And Gane is not really a difficult opponent, although the weight will probably prove to be an issue.

Everyone is really going to have to watch this fight, as you have said, he has been out for many years and this is going to be his comeback fight. Many of us here hates Jon Jones, but his body of work during his prime at LHW can't be denied as he clean up that division.

And so to enhance his legacy he has to take this fight and move to HW.  And I think he is more capable to make a statement win in his comeback against Gane here.

I am also looking for Jones to win this fight as he has all the advantage and chances to take this fight but of course Gane is a goodfighter and we knew that a single hit can bring them down so meaning both has a opportunity to win and only needed a perfect timing .
waiting for the Odds and will put my bet for this one as  I am waiting for Jones fight since last year.

It puzzled me why Jon Jones will return to the cage in a heavier division. Why doesn't he come back in the division where he always has been, with a weight that he's always been comfortable with. He's been inactive for a few years. The light heavy weight division is not anymore the same when he left. He should go up only after he dominated the division once more, only after he defeated the new fighters there like Ankalaev or Prochazka or Błachowicz. And he'll probably start to get the feel of the cage once again because of his inactivity.

I don't hate Jon Jones, at least not as a fighter inside the octagon. Sure, he's gotten into controversies. He even had his second victory over Cormier overturned for testing positive of illegal substance, but I appreciate Jones inside the octagon. He's got a lot to offer. He's an amazing fighter. He's a skillful warrior. He's actually undefeated if we don't include his disqualification against Matt Hamill. That's the reason why I like him.

I just hope he will turn up on fight night in the best of shape. If he is, I think he will defeat Gane. This is a challenge of course considering his long inactivity and Sonnen's observation that he's possibly recovering from an injury.

I don't think there is anyone in the LHW division who can challenge Jones. He gets my respect for moving up to heavyweight and taking a HUGE risk. My only concern is he has bulked up too much to a point that it doesn't look natural.

Another useless post by OP. The guy bets on favs and thinks he knows sports  ;D

LMAO

There is no longer any debate.

Jon Jones is without doubt the GOAT.

He made that look easy.

I hope you guys took my prediction and put some money on Jones by submission.

Wow.

Yeah as what the majority expected, Jones will be this one, but I will say that no one thought it will be just that easy, taking down Gane and choking him to submission.

No damage at all to Jones, except the obvious kick on the nuts.

But other than that, he is definitely back and again as I have said, cemented his legacy as the GOAT.

The fact that he was inactive for over 3 years, moved up to heavyweight and destroyed the number 1 contender in 2 minutes is absolutely crazy. He has nothing left to prove.

Jones was an easy win I didn't think the fight would be that fast but form 3 years without fighting to instants champ', that's the way that Jones enjoys rolling... and it was a predictable outcome, I mean we are talking about heavy weights, and those fights can end fast with a single punch.

SO, it's nice to have Jones back on the stage, it means some easy money fights are about to come. Let's just follow his events and he will print.

I'm surprised by your prediction Jnes makes a statement by submitting Ciryl Gane, it is one of the easiest fights I've seen in the heavyweight division, Jones did not even get a sweat, and Gane did not even offer resistance, not the kind of fight I want to see on Gane, it did not live up to my expectation and I guess all the fans, I'm sure Jones has a huge advantage but I don't think he can win this fight so easily.
I love to see UFC make an offer to Ngannou for a one-time fight because Ngannou is the lineal champion.

Congratulations to Jon Jones, the New Undisputable UFC Heavyweight Champion! He made it look easy to submit Cryril Gane in the first round. I want to see two or three title defense before retiring or a match with Stipe Miocic.

Jon Jones career highlights:

Youngest UFC Champion
Most UFC Title Fight Wins (15)
Light Heavy Weight Champion
Heavy Weight Champion
Broke the Drake Curse  ;D

No doubt he's the greatest MMA fighter of all time.

At first though it looks like the choke is not that deep, but replay shows otherwise, you can look at Gane's face and you can clearly see he is on pain with Jones putting him to sleep.

And the way he take him down, his just like the LHW version, very agile and yet can take anyone if he wanted to just like that.

I do agree, end for discussion as who is the best in this generation.

Gane's grappling did not improve since his fight against Ngannou, from their weigh-in and Face-off before the fight and even in interviews Gane is intimidated by Jones's presence, and if you're intimidated you cannot deliver your best moves, its an easy win for Jones and from there he establishes himself as one of the greatest in the UFC.
Dana White is now arranging the Jones - Miocic fight



Jon Jones next fight: Stipe Miocic up next for new heavyweight champion, according to Dana White  (https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/jon-jones-next-fight-stipe-miocic-up-next-for-new-heavyweight-champion-according-to-dana-white/)

Jones was GOAT of the boxing and on the top list of KO many of the players.Now he started to target the heavy weight boxing,most of the old people get away from the league.But Jones want to defend his top position at his 35 also.As we know most of the sports players will start to retire above 30 years.This is because of the loss of his stamina after the age of 30.Even in cricket people use to settle down in 32-35.But Jones spirit at the age of 35 was high motivation to the youngsters to the boxing.Physical health is important for boxing,we still think Jones had a good fitness to K.O many players.

Yes this was the logical choice after I saw the official weigh in. The size difference between the two wasn't as big as I had anticipated. Gane's size would have given him that significant edge in heavy striking but I didn't see that.

Good choice on Jones utilizing his well-rounded game.

I think think that even though he reach that age there will be a change of course but then if he really wants to win he will never stop trained himself so that even though he will about to face younger people he still have those agility, stamina, endurance etc. There are many people who still play even though they are older maybe even they reach 40s they still have those power within them

Yes, the experience of Jones really showed in this fight, better ring IQ and when he started to relax and open up and go for that take down, it was over for Gane.

I will love to see Jones vs Miocic, Jones wanted him and even said that Stipe is better than Gane.

And Dana loves that match up too, so we will definitely see Jones fighting again maybe in December, I reckon.

Jones proved once again that he is the GOAT. This is probably the fight that I doubted Jon Jones the most. He is not only coming from a long inactivity, he is also challenging a natural heavyweight who is the number 1 in rank in the division. Gane was not an easy guy to beat, but it seemed Jon Jones didn't have a hard time against him. The fight ended quickly because Jones seemed to have already studied Gane very well that he didn't have to feel him inside the Octagon.

And I was also surprised with how that guillotine choke submitted Gane.

I followed Jon Jones' career for about 12 years now and Jones never lost his mojo whenever he enters the cage. I still can't believe he went for a heavier division and still dominate. He always shows that he owns the cage in his every fight. He's a little slower than he was before, in my opinion, but he still inflict fear to Gane as I saw in the highlights.