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Reason why Im opened this topic i see everywhere there is a lot panic.
The btc now in 23k zone the 24300-24500 is top.

Even the so called experts saying that we go down yes we might but we need to understood that 23k price range is lowest now.
If anything then 22300-22500 is perfect price to Open long position.

I would say this it's time to stop guessing and gamble and come to me i'll teach you how it's working.

I Also looking to connect and share ideas with people who see Same things that means you follow the Same indicators and you probably have instutional Investment education and Id like to talk with you so we both can share ideas and probably connect.

A newbie who just created an account is willing to teach people about how to predict the price or am I getting something wrong?

No matter how much good with your technical analytic skill its impossible to find the price movements with 100% with constant rate so we all have to remember the analysis is just a part amd lot of other factors affecting the price too.

BTW I won't be surprised if bitcoin falls below 20K or passes 30K in the next 24hr time frame. :)

This month no this month lowest price 22600-23k
Yes 30k is possible but not in this month.

But as i sayd If you are retail style trader then i have nothing to discuss with you.
Im looking for instution Investment traders educated people to talk.
Sure sometimes i follow simple charts like MAcd ..MA and so but Im focusing on checking the whales.
But Im investing everyday 1% some days Even lower in top coins

Hopefully you used correct term to express your idea.

Long/ Short is for Leverage trading.
Buy / Sell is for Spot trading.

Please use it right because you used the term Long and wrote it is not good time to gamble with the market. It is so confusing.  :D

Long i mean you can Open long position
I have opened next long positions with 5x-10x leverage
The eth, xrp, and btc.

Even If price fall from here then i know it's just shake off before bull run Im not worry nothing.

I dont get it how the people who been in business 10-20 years predict still wrong... many of them talking now some 20-21k price ...for btc but when i look my info i don't see this coming.

What i see is clear short squeeze.

It is exactly what I thought, you are using leverages for your trading.

But it is confusing because you advised people don't gamble.

All models are wrong. All predictions are wrong or you can say most of them are wrong.

If you are too confident with your prediction, you are gambling and again it is conflict with your advice in OP.

You will see Long squeeze soon. Did you know the massive Long squeeze in March 2020 when people mostly thought Bitcoin made its solid bottom?

All Indicators are scams. All paid and free signals are scams. There are no free signals. They give some signals with a 50/50 chance and ask to join paid signals. What ae are you trying to do here by creating this thread? How would people contact you, and what is the requirement? Are you offering any service or what? Maybe you want to help people for free?

People shouldn't follow others. It would be best if you didn't suggest anyone open long/short positions. What if they lose the money? Do you guarantee they won't lose if they follow you? Plan B expected BTC to hit 100K by the end of 2021. We all know what happened in 2021, and we have never seen 100K. So, don't ask people to follow your suggestion. You are not the GOD.

I agreed with your statement because ever joined many kinds of paid signal but never earn profit due the owner sharing signal when some altcoin have been reached to higher.

Back to OP decision about Bitcoin predicting, there are not mistake when some one show their research with Bitcoin price will going up or down because they have accurate analyze and know with internal or external problem why Bitcoin have pump or dump. Some beginner still panic when getting predicting about Bitcoin will drop but have indicator made how lower price from Bitcoin before back to higher price later.

I don't predict but atleast i dont talk or predict unrealistic nonsense.

I dont ask you to follow Im saying just many people are duped to belive that we go a lot down.
But i see the Nice short squeeze Im experinced enough to make this statement.
I don't Blame anyone i was same like all of them newbies and so called experts.
But one day i had enough and i decided to learn the rules of this game.

And traders like plan b i follow indont follow for suggestions If they don't explain reasons for that why something will be happening.

2021to btc 100k to hit was not realistic.
There is rule of accumulating the coins techically it was impossible to reach.

I dont suggest to anyone nothing i myself will be scalping longs becouse we have not much to go down we are quite low the whales Will do just shake off to get weak hands off and zig zag to get high leverage positions out.

I dont predict inonly predict now becouse i want to help you guys If i see there is panic for no reason so just explain what is the situation here.

U got to look behind the scenes otherwise you just gamble.

So Im asking Are here people who knows Same things like me ?
If not should i send my resume to grayscale or microstradgey ...lol 😁

What kind of panic are you talking about? All those who have no idea what exactly they are investing in will always be in a panic, whether they are losing money or making a profit. Smart people know exactly what the correct position is, but they don't bet in the short term.


Where did you get the idea that institutional traders are on this forum? Do you think Saylor, Silbert or Draper spend their time here making billions?

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You can try, but if you want to have any chance try to write their name in the correct way, because otherwise they won't consider you as the expert you pretend to be ;)

It's okay if you say that based on the analysis you did because each of us has our own analysis.
And even though the price will stay at $23k or even go down to $22k, that's also okay because I know many people are already prepared for everything that could happen.
What's important is that we can use it to our advantage so that later, we can benefit when the bull run comes.
I don't really think about whether the price will go up or down deeper because I just want to buy bitcoin and when the price can go down deeper, it's a golden opportunity for me.
So even if people say it's going to be under $23k or $22k, I would not panic ;D

Nope, it’s my money, So I should be the one who will make decisions on where to invest or where to not. Currently Bitcoins price are best that is available in the market. If you take more time and wait for more low price, then I am fearing that you might lose the golden chance to buy the Bitcoins. Bitcoins are way more valuable than it’s current price, so if you are able to buy the coin below 25k usd, then buy it as much as you can. Buy the coin now, hold for few months and enjoy 3x profit. Easy strategy, less panicking.

I will not say that you don't know anything about Trading because you are a newbie, but the problem is that someone might underrate you because you are a fresher in the community, but I have a question for you but I don't know weather  you know how to interpret chart, so if I should ask you what are the strategies you can apply to ensure that's your predictions will be accurate one. Because with your predictions or examples will let people know that you are at the right track.

I agree with you becouse in few months we will touch the 30k mark that's how it's looking now.
Yes you can trade very well without leverage easy profit no panic at all.

Market works like this 5months up 5months down.
6 months is ETF time for instutions funds.
I havent checked btc price according to this but that's how the btc price respond according to this.
Funds are much related with btc.

In this issue of predicting the market, sometimes I want to believe that I should depend solely on it, but in most cases the outcome will be a great disaster.
Now that you are inviting people for a lesson, is there any guarantee that what you teach is the sure direction that the market is going or will go?
When I was desperate to make some profit, I subscribed to a channel that told me that the call they drop must be our direction and its only God that can stop it, unfortunately I lost my subscription money and my invested capital.
So I doubt that any Technical analysis or fundamental analysis comes out 70%.

I get that people could be in a panic mode these days and that s why it keeps on crashing that 25k barrier and go down constantly, it is once again dropped under 24k, and it was a good day yesterday, not so good day today and this will keep happening for a while. I get that it is not a simple thing and I get that we shouldn't be really expecting it to break over 25k too quickly.

However, we are doing fine as it is right now and this should be good enough for most people. I mean, yeah we are not above 25k right now, but that doesn't change the fact that we are also above 23k, which we were at 16k just a few months ago, so it is still a good thing we are here.

If you really look closely towards the market you will realise that the bottom has actually come it's just the patience of the people to hold that is being tested now. Keeping the price in the same area for as long as possible will make it easier for bulls to pump it when needed. It will start with a slight dump towards the downward side which would eventually turn into a great rally towards 30k. But right now I am not expecting anything more than 40-45k until the next halving kicks in.

So this turns out that you are telling people that should contact you and tending to follow out your signal and you would be asking for that for sure? With those things that you had mentioned and been telling on here

then its not really that something shocking anymore on which you would really be getting criticisms instead. hehe. Prices do really normally moves on this kind of range and there's no man on this world would be able to know on where it would be heading next no matter how good your analysis or indicator would be but still the market could easily fucked it up and this is why its really that something wrong if you do really
make out some claims about on you do know on how it should be done and how to make profits because this is just purely and obviously showing that you are just trying to get some followers
or subscribers.lol

Thank you Op for your prediction, this I believe is mostly important for those who are looking for the perfect position to buy bitcoin, mostly for day/futures traders, long term investors have probably taken their positions and are now waiting for the buying rush in 2024 when bitcoin will be going through another halving.

I am not a professional day trader, I can't read chart or do complex technical or fundamental analysis, but I do know that right now is still a good time for those buying for the long term to buy and hold.
This is just my opinion.

Don't make such a mistake again buddy, a forum newbie does not necessarily mean he is also a newbie in cryptocurrency trading, I know many professionals traders who are not members of this forum, if they sign up tomorrow, their ranking on this forum is gonna start out as a brand new, to newbie, and any one with a similar mindset as you showed would take them for granted, for the reason that they are forum newbies, whereas they've been in crypto for several years.

You welcome yes.
Reason why i did opened this topic was to help you guys out becouse internet is full of wrong info and a lot panic information with not accurate analysis either i tought i'll just help you out guys becouse Im so skilled If i see complete nonsense i will tell my opinion.

At the end of the day no matter how we claim that our prediction is near to accurate, it is still a guess.  I do not think someome will precisely tell the next trend of Bitcoin price.  If we look at the technical analysis approach, there is always a two-way statement which is highlighted by the word if.  And when the word "if" is involved, it means even the analyst himself is not sure about the future price of what he is analyzing.  And most of all Bitcoin had shamed lots of TA and FA which shows that Bitcoin price movements in most cases are really unpredictable.


True that I do think that @OP isn't new in the industry because he is bold enough to say that he is far better than other predictors out there.

Name the reason why a professional trader will register on this forum. Or do you think that such a professional trader will register on the forum to share his experience and give recommendations here? I am sure that all traders know about this forum, but since they have not registered here before, it means they do not need it.

They'd rather keep silent than share their ideas with people who already have a different opinion and their way of trading. Because it was not good to argue who is best or what strategies are really effective as in the end, it only lies in the hand of the trader itself, not the others. If someone gives trading advice, I don't really think it works for them. Not really sure but most successful traders are too humble and they are still learning rather than giving advice to others. They only just come out when proven themselves that they are good and expert in this field enough to educate newbies and those who wanted to learn.

It is unclear what your statements are based on. When I saw the OP bragging, I immediately remembered Portocervo777 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422855.0, who also posed as an experienced trader and left the forum after several unsuccessful forecasts. And I wouldn't be surprised if Portocervo777 reincarnated in Squaremile777 and re-registered on the forum.

Judging by the style of writing (use of capital letters in words where it does not make sense), it is possible that it is the same person who has more than one alt account, because I noticed a similar style of writing in some accounts that had similar posts in Economy boards. What most of them have in common (apart from the writing style) is that they appear during the bear market, because they want to show that they understand what is happening and in some way help others to understand it.

I dont brake the rules i make them i write how i want If i want i change the wrinting rules.
Btw... Who cares nowdays anymore how you write ?
The only thing what show's something is your crypto wallet ur pocket wallet or bank account.
Anything else just the noise :)

We live in the fast world everyday you got to make money you need to move fast and nobody dont have time to focus on how to write as long as you understood it's all good.
Everyday we counting money and making money the Free time we have we just use it for enjoyment not for checking someones writing style.
If i dont make big load of money Im on the beach club or spa or shopping or gym or having other type of good time and fun

Not everyone is like that, but a true professional trader who actually knows what they are doing will end up sharing their information  for free. Some people in the world are nice, it's their nature, if they see a way to make a profit, they will share it with others so that they could help everyone, that's basically all about that.

I have met with so many helpful people along my journey in the crypto world and all of them helped me see some things differently, some of them were wrong and misinformed and I had to pluck them out of my system, but some of them were super helpful and they did not want anything in return, just wanted to be helpful that's it.

Sometimes when too many people start to understood the game rules then the rules Will be changed and it takes time to learn new rules of the game.
That's why the smaller circle of humans knows the rules of the game the longer it will last with the Same rules  the game again.
So off course Im not interested to make it all the info to public it's my own food what i eat i did hunt this food didnt get it for Free.

You cannot be so certain that many traders know this forum. You could be wrong about that, there are people who doesn't know about this forum.
In the other ways, you are also correct. The are some professional traders who are aware of this forum but do not need it as information shares here might be too elementary to them.
Besides, a larger percentage of information shared here are given so for free and professional traders who spent alot money to be what they are today might not be comfortable releasing such information for free.
A professional trader who makes real money might not be needing this forum because they are much occupied.

And I think right now it is a good position to go long because BTC is on the bottom and there is a possibility that the price will go up or bounce higher next week. But if that doesn't happen, we must anticipate it by placing a stop loss so we don't suffer big losses.

In trading, we can set a stop loss to guard against the possibility of the price reversing quickly, which we cannot anticipate quickly either. And with the stop loss, the long or short position we have placed will immediately execute it and reduce the risk.

The uptrend and downtrend are designed to guard our decision and motive in the market. Bitcoin have a good entry if we follow the chart, because in the previous 24 hours, Bitcoin ATL was $22,198.98 and ATH $22,613.69 triggering a buy option for traders who was waiting for a good spot to enter trades on bitcoin. It's present price is $22,392.82, that means there's strong retest point that will fall back to ATL. However Bitcoin exhibit high probability of volatility and we should always map out plan B incase the chart goes different ways with our prediction. I've setup my entries because I'm confident that Bitcoin might hit a new ATL this week, the market is still bearish and there's need to apply caution when trading this period. Shorting is the best alternative but will be manage with crucial SL and TP if it hits any of the precise option.

All of us here are free to express opinions, analysis, and so on as long as it does not harm or hurt others emotionally. If I look at the date he made that post, after some 1 0r 2 days if I'm not mistaken, his prediction is almost close to the current decrease in bitcoin's value and recovery of its height.

So I think even if he is a newbie here in the forum it can be said that he is not a newbie in the crypto trading analysis style. I have seen a lot here that the rank of others will be long and high, but when it comes to the depth of knowledge in trading, it is not that wide, in fact, other newbies even know more about ideas and analysis when it comes to crypto trading.

I think if you can enter the market at this price, that's also fine, even though there is a possibility that the price will fall again. And if that happens, you can place another buy order at another low price. And I have a feeling some traders came into the market when the market crashed yesterday and are now starting to see some signs of upside from bitcoin because today, the price is much higher than it was a few days ago. And there is a possibility to see the price will start to increase the next day because usually, after a decline which we know as a correction, the price will start to recover.

But indeed, I agree with you that the bitcoin market is currently still in a bearish position so we must be very careful in entering the market. Prepare your analysis in advance to determine when to enter the market, and if you have, you can place your order and wait for it to be filled.

Instead of you telling people to come to you so you can educate them about how things are in terms of reading the market's next trend, I will advise you to create a dedicated thread for this and provide your market prediction because both experienced crypto market analysis and the newbies are still guessing the market next trend because they market volatility can take any form of shape which will trigger the market downtrend that there's no way you'll what impact it.

This is an open market and community and you can't stop people if many are predicting and guessing the price of bitcoin. And why should people come to you?
If you don't like predicting bitcoin then don't look at those places and sections where people have no other thing to do but to discuss about the market and their thoughts about it.
Also, you can't remove speculations and predictions from this very speculative market so if that's irritating you it's much better if you avoid the market for the meantime.

I agree with you, the worst thing that may happen now is that the price drops below nineteen thousand, and then your loss will not exceed 6%, and therefore it is not a big loss, but it is a long-term entry point, as the possibility of increasing the price above 30k, which represents a good profit, you may need more of the months.

So for those who want to venture in the long term, the opportunity is now golden.

You are definitely not wrong. We have see many experts predicting prices and still failing to be accurate in their analysis.
Here comes a newbie to teach us how to trade. Over confidence drives the balance downwards.
Crypto has shown time after time that no matter how good we are at trading, we can never be accurate at predicting crypto prices.

The initial paragraph of your post made me want to take you seriously, but I soon lost interest when you started blabbing about how you intended to educate others with trade. You may not be aware of the fact that every trader has a different style of trading, and that people's predictions depend on how the market feels to them. You may believe that 23k is the top, but I disagree. This local resistance can be broken with strong demand and more USDT issuances, but as of right now, I don't believe that the available USDT can surpass the previous ATH.

If they are an experienced trader, chances are they already heard about this forum and maybe registered an account here but for the newly entrants, this forum can still be foreign to them. A pro trader who wants to make more (passive) money can post teasers here to entice people to join their premium group.

To @op, you are right, you don't really like predicting because your predictions aren't really good enough in my opinion but don't worry as you can still improve as long as you will keep on practicing. I don't think people are panicking now, but panic buying for the last minute may be, because there is a tiny decline and probably the last that we can see for a while.

Newbie, or not, he has his own ideas and predictions and we can't deny that. You don't know people's background. They may be newbies here and in real life traders with 20 years of experience.



You can make a decent long term prediction though, and you can make short-term ones that don't account for possible manipulation. Silvergate is one of such unpredictable events just like Luna was and later FTX.

I had my own predictions for the bottom of bear market and I stand by it. I think that the bottom is in and it would have been in in 22000 at the lowest if not for scammers. This is why this level is so crucial and why people lingers here for so long. 22000 is like 6000 in 2018-2019 bear market. We held on to it, went below it, back up to it and stayed there. We can still go below it but will always come back.

Panic is a normal thing to those who are newbie and can't control the emotions when it comes to holding specially during a bear season, but the bitcoin investment is just like gambling so before we start buying we need to know that the cryptocurrency has a high volatility and it is a very risky investment, in my part after i buy, i will not open my wallet during bear season and open it when bull season begin. Because i know bear season will make me disappointed when i look at my investment go down fall.

If people can control their emotions, especially when the market is experiencing a correction, they can see it as a way to accumulate more bitcoins. And when they decide to invest in bitcoins, that's a great time to start buying and saving more. And if the price can't increase very much, they should keep their bitcoins in a separate wallet and not need to panic because the bitcoins are safe in that wallet.

This bear season is coming to an end soon and we just have to be patient a bit longer so we can sell bitcoin at the next peak. Hopefully, people won't panic even though they don't know enough about this bear and bull season and can hold their bitcoins until the price increases.

If you can predict the market very well then it will be more preferable you tell us what you think about the market than asking people to ask you so you can tell them what move the market is capable of going. Bitcoin price can be very uneasy to determine that is why we have to analyze what we think and wait for the market to move in it direction than becoming too confident on where the market is going and at the end we see the market going to another direction. Trading is not easy and we need to understand that everything we analysis or predict is just a speculation of a guess work.

These drops could also be a pullback for me because of what we experienced a lot of pumps during the start of the year 2023.
So for me, yes, there are a lot of possibilities that this is just a pullback, I am positive also because we are still sitting above $20,000 for this level for me is a huge support and significant level.
Another thing you see when we do dump, it's not really huge, and we are now experiencing a lot of sideways.

About a week ago, Bitcoin was in consolidation in a price range between 23-22k$, today the price fell to 21700$ with negative news and the Fed's suggestion of further interest rate increases.

Also, we are on a date tomorrow,10 March, with the start of the distribution of the dues of those affected by the Mt.gox exchange, so expect more declines.

We may visit the 20K$ area during the month of March, as expected, but I am optimistic that this negativity will not last for long, and we may witness an increase at the end of this month.

When the price of BTC rises and vice versa, it's only day traders who always feel the need to find out why as a reference for the next step, but long term holders will not always focus on the movement of BTC every day.
I believe this will always happen and keep repeating the price goes up and down and so on it's nothing special and the news that comes out is only used to make the market react but Bitcoin will come up again.
Strange you don't like to predict prices but do it, so what's the point.

The real panic was when we broke the resistance level and the price moved away from $20,000 with all the bad news that was appearing daily. Many believed that it was the end and that we would return to the levels of $10,000. Therefore, what is happening now will not make anyone panic, especially those who bought higher than 30K.

Banishing your feelings while trading is the first step, and then you will be able to achieve profits, otherwise your profits will be subject to chance.

At the end of all your preaching on trading discussion, this is where it ends "a charge for payment on how to trade on bitcoin''.
In case you are looking for where to showcase your talent in trading, you can bring it up on the service board and write your charges than this prolongs talks that you have mastered the act of trading.

The volatility in the market is something that makes it difficult for us to make a good prediction, but it does not matter if one is wrong, there are many things that can help us to predict movements, in my case I use the Wyckoff method a lot, it is a method that can be It was created many years ago, and I like to combine it with the teachings of Livermore, this has helped me a lot, but in the long and medium term, I still do not have a good run when it comes to predicting prices in the short term, it is something that worries me too much, Technical analysis is something that is always taken into consideration, however it should not be scary to do it, making mistakes in trading is very common.

It's not just newbies who experience panic, especially if its value suddenly drops in the market. Even those who have been here for a long time in cryptocurrency feel the same panic.

       It's just that other long-term holders of bitcoin do not understand that no matter what happens to its value, even if the market drops a lot, they should know when to sell their holdings, not that they will immediately panic even though he has held the bitcoin for less than a year. he bought it. Do you get what I mean?