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Title: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: alexey14 on March 05, 2023, 10:15:01 PM
Before I explain the Theory here:
1- You cant disagree with the Subject If you dont have any evidance to show US Government is not Satoshi Nakamoto
2- "BTC is future or BTC is tomorrow, No one can control BTC" Suche meme are not answer of this thread, Do not copy past them from your brain to here
3- poor people who have participated in different bunties and earns thier living by spamming, renting their signatures for a few cents, there is no place for you in this thread.
Now Back to SUBJECT:

US goverment created BTC , Project name  called Satoshi Nakamoto , US Government own atleast 15 Million BTC but they decided to hold them In Million of diiferent wallet instead of 1 wallet so They can stay Under radar.
That mean BTC is fully centralized by US Government, but no one know it Because 15M BTC are in complatly different wallet.
Second reason was Security, If 1 wallet hacked, The rest of the wallets will remain safe.
I have to explain somthing that Im sure some newbies here will ask:
How US Government created 15M wallet? creating BTC wallet is very easy, you can create btc wallet with 1 click only, to make 15M wallet you need 15M click which can be done by an automation bot or just a few code.
US Government Always control the market and BTC price, they use Mass payment system so they can transfer any amount of BTC automaticly from all 15M wallet easily.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: Artemis3 on March 05, 2023, 10:53:30 PM
It is funny to see you with jr level imposing rules when you can't make a self moderated thread to enforce them.

Besides with number 1 it is pointless to discuss anything with you. I wouldn't particularly care if it did come from the US gov. They also brought us SELinux (NSA), Tor (US Navy) and some other free and open source projects you can inspect their code and verify it doesn't have backdoors or what not. It really doesn't matter who made it if it benefits you or me in the end, you and i decide, not them.

Use it or not, your choice.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on March 05, 2023, 11:10:46 PM
Before I explain the Theory here:
1- You cant disagree with the Subject If you dont have any evidance to show US Government is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

US goverment created BTC , Project name  called Satoshi Nakamoto , US Government own atleast 15 Million BTC but they decided to hold them In Million of diiferent wallet instead of 1 wallet so They can stay Under radar.
I know It is very easy to just wake up one morning, come up with a nonsense idea, grab your phone to start typing a pointless thread on this forum. But if I may ask, you just said that if we don't have evidence that we are not allowed to disagree on this thread. So my question now is, where are your evidence to prove that US government is actually Satoshi? Or wallet addresses to prove that U.S government has 15 million BTC just as you claim?

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That mean BTC is fully centralized by US Government, but no one know it Because 15M BTC are in complatly different wallet.
Point of correction, Bitcoin is fully decentralized, because nobody has control over it, not even Central banks nor the US government


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US Government Always control the market and BTC price, they use Mass payment system so they can transfer any amount of BTC automaticly from all 15M wallet easily.
That's not true, because the only currency the US government has control over is the U.S dollar which is a stable currency by which the value of Bitcoin is been pegged to it. That's why the value of Bitcoin is always given in U.S dollar




Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: Artemis3 on March 05, 2023, 11:34:29 PM
That's not true, because the only currency the US government has control over is the U.S dollar which is a stable currency by which the value of Bitcoin is been pegged to it. That's why the value of Bitcoin is always given in U.S dollar

That is not how a pegging works. And the USD isn't stable, unless the slide down is a form of stableness...

It is given in USD as a manner of convenience. In Europe it is given in EUR, that is not a pegging. And because its a free market, you can often see the price in USD and the price in EUR does not match when converting one coin to the other. The local economies also affect it.

A pegging is when they declare x equals y. Its what the so called "stable" tokens do, which is basically going against the market forces usually by promising to keep a fund equivalent to...

There was a time that Argentina decreed that 1 peso was 1 dollar. That's a pegging. You can check that history to see how well it ended...


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: drwhobox on March 05, 2023, 11:48:36 PM
WOW really! You just wrote a Nobel winning theory about bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto. I wonder I many thousands of hours you have put into doing this research. I am sure these types of theory is a result of thousands of hours of hard work.

You are really a rare humankind. Although you have warned newbies not to post in this thread, I think you forgot that you are only a JR member. 


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: Macadonian on March 06, 2023, 12:05:26 AM
1- You cant disagree with the Subject If you dont have any evidance to show US Government is not Satoshi Nakamoto
You have not shown any proof you have made predictions or accusations based on your perception but you have not provided any evidence that cannot be denied the US government has no reason to make a currency which threatens them why would they do it? The US government needs the banking system to make them money Bitcoin does not make them money your accusation is weak.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: Sarah Azhari on March 06, 2023, 12:06:34 AM
How US Government created 15M wallet? creating BTC wallet is very easy, you can create btc wallet with 1 click only, to make 15M wallet you need 15M click which can be done by an automation bot or just a few code.
US Government Always control the market and BTC price, they use Mass payment system so they can transfer any amount of BTC automaticly from all 15M wallet easily.
from what I read on how you explain creating a 15 M wallet by needing 15 M clicks, is thought you didn't understand anything about bitcoin. If you don't understand anything about you say, better to not clarify in what you don't understand it, because it can makes you clear enough to try spreading a Hoax or fake news.

also, you can create 15M wallet address by 1 click on iancoleman

https://iili.io/HWMTdYB.md.png


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: thecodebear on March 06, 2023, 12:11:20 AM
Isn't there a moderator around to delete really dumb pointless threads like this?


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: alexey14 on March 06, 2023, 12:29:51 AM
How US Government created 15M wallet? creating BTC wallet is very easy, you can create btc wallet with 1 click only, to make 15M wallet you need 15M click which can be done by an automation bot or just a few code.
US Government Always control the market and BTC price, they use Mass payment system so they can transfer any amount of BTC automaticly from all 15M wallet easily.
from what I read on how you explain creating a 15 M wallet by needing 15 M clicks, is thought you didn't understand anything about bitcoin. If you don't understand anything about you say, better to not clarify in what you don't understand it, because it can makes you clear enough to try spreading a Hoax or fake news.

also, you can create 15M wallet address by 1 click on iancoleman

https://iili.io/HWMTdYB.md.png

I think you dont know what 12 seed words are  and what a BTC wallet is, generating 15M rows is complately diiferent than generating 15M diiferent private key. 15M * 24 seed words.
Dont spread wrong information. Beside, click was an exmaple, I said 15M wallet can easily be created by a few code.
Big difference


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: alexey14 on March 06, 2023, 12:35:51 AM
U.S dollar which is a stable currency by which the value of Bitcoin is been pegged to it. That's why the value of Bitcoin is always given in U.S dollar



Bitcoin is NOT pegged to USD, Only stable coins pegged to USD.
People like you who spam 24/7 should be banned from this froum.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: Fundamentals Of on March 06, 2023, 01:03:17 AM
You sounded like a very knowledgeable legend in the beginning with all your warnings. You seem to have known so much. But you ended up just like the ones you warned not to participate in the discussion.

First, you have to provide proof that the US government is the one that started this Project Satoshi Nakamoto. Second, provide proof that the US government owns at least 15 million Bitcoin. Also, the decentralization of Bitcoin will not be brought into dispute simply because of its unequal distribution.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: BlackBoss_ on March 06, 2023, 01:31:08 AM
1- You cant disagree with the Subject If you dont have any evidance to show US Government is not Satoshi Nakamoto
It is a poor research to prove that Satoshi Nakamoto is the US Government. I don't know who is (are) Satoshi Nakamoto and I can not prove that Satoshi Nakamoto is not the US Government. However your topic is not able to show that too.

I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796.0)
Maybe you can find more information for your research with many topics were collected in the above topic.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: crypticj on March 06, 2023, 01:35:24 AM
Bro, you need to educate yourself. You can't just walk around and tell people your nonsense without any evidence and tell them that THEY should prove you wrong. No, it's not how life works. If you state something, you should have decent proof to back it.
I think people should learn that it's not enough to believe in conspiracy and have an "opinion" on things. Your believes should have some decent base, otherwise, your opinion is worth nothing.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on March 06, 2023, 02:15:39 AM
Before I explain the Theory here:
1- You cant disagree with the Subject If you dont have any evidance to show US Government is not Satoshi Nakamoto
2- "BTC is future or BTC is tomorrow, No one can control BTC" Suche meme are not answer of this thread, Do not copy past them from your brain to here
3- poor people who have participated in different bunties and earns thier living by spamming, renting their signatures for a few cents, there is no place for you in this thread.
Now Back to SUBJECT:

US goverment created BTC , Project name  called Satoshi Nakamoto , US Government own atleast 15 Million BTC but they decided to hold them In Million of diiferent wallet instead of 1 wallet so They can stay Under radar.
That mean BTC is fully centralized by US Government, but no one know it Because 15M BTC are in complatly different wallet.
Second reason was Security, If 1 wallet hacked, The rest of the wallets will remain safe.
I have to explain somthing that Im sure some newbies here will ask:
How US Government created 15M wallet? creating BTC wallet is very easy, you can create btc wallet with 1 click only, to make 15M wallet you need 15M click which can be done by an automation bot or just a few code.
US Government Always control the market and BTC price, they use Mass payment system so they can transfer any amount of BTC automaticly from all 15M wallet easily.

  -   You know you are funny OP which is also annoying, think you said this thing because of the belief that there is and seems to be the community here that should believe you who can read this topic that you did.

What are you basing this on dude? You are like Charles Darwin according to Him "Human being came from the Ape" which most of the world does not believe in this matter. That's how you are OP, it doesn't matter! what you're saying doesn't make sense either. You didn't even show any valid source to say that what you mentioned is true, it's just your saliva and speculation.



Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: digaran on March 06, 2023, 02:27:45 AM
Now I understand why the computer mouse price skyrocketed in US in the recent years, They were used to click away and create wallets. Though did they get the coins first and then created the wallets or did they created the wallets and then got the coins?
How did they transact 15M bitcoins? Was it as fast as 15M clicks or did it take years?

I have heard if you try reversing the sound made when you say satoshi nakamoto, you can  hear it clearly it says USA, USA. Just put it on loop and you will understand, if you are going to object to the subject raised by me, Don't Ok?


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: wxa7115 on March 06, 2023, 04:02:08 AM
Before I explain the Theory here:
1- You cant disagree with the Subject If you dont have any evidance to show US Government is not Satoshi Nakamoto
The burden of proof is always on the one which is trying to prove themselves to be right, you believe the US government created bitcoin, that is fine, in fact this is not a new theory and there are many people which believe this is the case.

But what evidence have you brought forward to prove your point? Nothing in particular, which means anyone that thinks differently can disagree with you if they want and there is nothing you can do to avoid it as you have no way to disprove their beliefs.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: ancafe on March 06, 2023, 04:49:07 AM
Out of the many newbies on Bitcointalk, you are the one with the most erroneous knowledge and there is no obligation for people to agree to your subject isn't it.

If you understand that Bitcointalk is never empty of discussion, then why do you make posts if you disagree with people's discussions for subject reasons, your points 1 and 3 are very confusing, what you need to understand is that Bitcointalk space is not that narrow, everyone mutual respect for each other, not for being involved or not in the signature campaign. Are you trying to attract attention?


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: pooya87 on March 06, 2023, 05:21:01 AM
1- You cant disagree with the Subject If you dont have any evidance to show US Government is not Satoshi Nakamoto
That was cute :D

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US Government own atleast 15 Million BTC
Wrong, US government owns 30 million BTC :D

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How US Government created 15M wallet? creating BTC wallet is very easy, you can create btc wallet with 1 click only, to make 15M wallet you need 15M click which can be done by an automation bot or just a few code.
You are wrong again, US government clicked 30 million times to create 30 million wallets to store 30 million bitcoin :D
He changed his mouth 3 million times to make 30 million clicks.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: worle1bm on March 06, 2023, 06:09:42 AM
Oh here we have one more nonsense make up story regarding Satoshi but I laughed at this one because you didn't make any sense in your post claiming US government owns 15M coins in different wallets.You need to realise that these theories but call it more of fake story is not going to make anything up but fun of you only so don't do such things just to write any spam posts like these.We all know US government would never make something that they can't control as they keep track of each thing so better luck next time with another more convincing story.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: Cantsay on March 06, 2023, 06:16:30 AM
I see, another delusional troll has gotten his hands on a system and has decided that bitcointalk is his next target.

Op, before posting this thread did you even take your time to read nonsense you vomited? Or did you even think before writing, I guess you just wrote down every words that came to your mind and luckily this thread was produced.

At first, when I started reading the thread I had high hopes but got disappointed as I proceeded to read more, this thread looks like the work of a 8 years old boy who still believes there's a monster living under his bed. You can do better than this Op.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: mindrust on March 06, 2023, 06:38:15 AM
Even if that was true (satoshi is the US gov), that doesn't really make btc less valuable. The code is open source. You can examine it or hire someone to examine it for you. If you don't like it you have the right to avoid it.

Bitcoin is nowhere being a monopoly. It is not even widely adopted yet. You can always use the alternative crypto projects or your credit cards.

Bitcoin is providing a choice. It is just another tool in the toolbox.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 06, 2023, 07:35:51 AM
Is there any psychiatrist here in the forum? Or at least an expert in mental health?
Looks like somebody needs help. Please give some medication to the patient. He might've escape in the facility and after that, posted a thread like this here.

creating BTC wallet is very easy, you can create btc wallet with 1 click only,
Creating wallet thru 1 click only? I've created my wallet using 10 clicks. Ohhh I forgot it was 20 clicks, or maybe around 5 clicks only.
After spreading some stupid sh*t here, at least prove your claims with evidences. You will say that this is only a "theory" so it might be true or it might be false right? Just thinking this theory alone is considered stupidity already. Bitcoin is decentralized, and not owned by a central authority like the US government.

Well, if they are the ones who owned Bitcoin, why would they not just released the whole 21 Million at the start. After all, they're the owners of it like you said right OP?

I hope his thread will be deleted soon so that no newbies will be misinformed.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: Lucius on March 06, 2023, 09:43:26 AM
Isn't there a moderator around to delete really dumb pointless threads like this?

Moderators do not act on their own, but on reports, so if you think this is a low-value/pointless topic, you know what to do.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: dezoel on March 07, 2023, 03:09:49 AM
I understand that you can make some sort of theory about this as much as you want, but the answer is simple; nope.

First of all, it doesn't help them at all, this doesn't help the government in any shape or form, it's something that hurts them more than it helps them, and not even in any legit kind of way, even in the most shadiest methods that bitcoin could be used, it just doesn't help them at all.

Secondly, believe me when I say this; they are not smart enough to pull off something like this. Many people think that USA is ran by these amazing secret agencies that could pull off big things, but this is the same government that fails to even elect speaker, they can't even come close to creating bitcoin.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: yudi09 on March 07, 2023, 05:19:19 AM
US goverment created BTC , Project name  called Satoshi Nakamoto , US Government own atleast 15 Million BTC but they decided to hold them In Million of diiferent wallet instead of 1 wallet so They can stay Under radar.
That mean BTC is fully centralized by US Government, but no one know it Because 15M BTC are in complatly different wallet.
Second reason was Security, If 1 wallet hacked, The rest of the wallets will remain safe.
I have to explain somthing that Im sure some newbies here will ask:
How US Government created 15M wallet? creating BTC wallet is very easy, you can create btc wallet with 1 click only, to make 15M wallet you need 15M click which can be done by an automation bot or just a few code.
US Government Always control the market and BTC price, they use Mass payment system so they can transfer any amount of BTC automaticly from all 15M wallet easily.
Oh my friend. What were you thinking before you made this thread that it could be that messy.
Where is the source that makes you write like when you say don't agree if there is no evidence.
Indirectly you need to check again how much from several sources related to the amount of BTC owned by the US government.

If everything you write that becomes a topic does not have a valid data source, I can say that it can lead to "misdirection".


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is US Government
Post by: NotATether on March 07, 2023, 06:12:34 AM
1- You cant disagree with the Subject If you dont have any evidance to show US Government is not Satoshi Nakamoto

You are right. However, we also have the freedom to ignore it if we don't believe that it's true.

However, your theory has flaws, because you can't just say "the US Government" created Bitcoin. You'd have to say something like "CIA", because the other, different branches of the government are required to report their activities periodically to Congress. CIA doesn't have to report most things to Congress.