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Hi Guys,

A few weeks ago I posted my $417,000 win from a $300 bet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441169.0).

Since then I have received multiple private messages from people who are offering me money in exchange for betting tips and advice.

I am making this thread to address the above matter plus the issue of responsible gambling.

Firstly, I will NEVER ask for or accept money or payments from anyone on this forum. There is enough information, statistics and knowledge for free online that you should never pay for these services. Anybody who tries to sell you "tips" or "picks" is most likely a scammer who is only interested in taking your money. Do your own research/analysis online for free it really isn't hard at all.

Secondly, the amount of private messages from people I have received is crazy. There is nothing guaranteed in gambling and you can quickly put yourself in a financial predicament by trying to win large amounts of money fast. The most important things to remember when betting is to gamble responsibly and only bet what you can afford to lose. This amount is different for other people and if you are not betting within your means you are heading for disaster.

I feel like people only post their winnings and not their losses so I decided to show you the reality of sports betting below.

The first photo is of a $646,000 bet that I lost by one leg. I took Stan Wawrinka (clay-court specialist) to win 2-0 against Sumit Nagal who isn't a good player and has never been ranked higher than 120. Wawrinka lost the first set and then ended up winning the next two sets
6-0, 6-1.

The next photo is a $1195 bet to win $1M. I won all the hard games but lost because of four matches that were paying $1.09, $1.15, $1.20 and $1.22. These are matches I thought were "guaranteed" and all lost in close games they should have won.

The last photo is a $20,000 bet I did on MLB to win $52,000. I thought it was going to be an easy win until the San Diego Padres got a bad call by the umpire and they ended up losing a match they should have won and I lost my $20,000.

These examples should show you how hard it is to win big amounts and I hope everyone who reads it understands nothing is guaranteed when it comes to gambling. Luck plays a HUGE part in gambling and the weather, the referees or an unforeseen scenario can be the difference between winning or losing.


Please only gamble what you can afford to lose and if you don't have discipline or control you shouldn't be gambling. I can't stress that enough.

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You did right posting your losses, there were many threads about gamblers winning and these temp people that its possible to win big amounts of money, by showing them your results you just show the true picture of how gamblers have their highs and lows in their bets, those who earlier post their winnings are just bragging and wants people to show admiration to their skill, but you are different you show them that things are not easy and they should play with money they can afford and not to be tempted to be like those who pretend to be good in winning.

Thanks for sharing your losses as well, this could be helpful to our community. I also remember a thread in this forum sharing his friend that apparently not knowing that he is slowly getting addicted to gambling. Some people still gamble even they don't have enough or they are are using their budget for food and then when they lose they will tell other people they are a victim of scam, take for an example there is a gambling site here which influencers also giving some money for them to register and start to play some people invested 250$ and now they are all complaining they can't withdraw money now.

That Stan must have stung hehe. It's been a while since I visited your $417K thread but I remember some members even doubting your story. I also kinda expected some people will send you offers in private ever since you made that post. It's kind of a rare chance to actually converse with some high roller so I don't really blame them. What's your current betting limit on sportsbet by the way?

OP just want to show everyone the reality about gambling, and that there can be no big wins without enduring huge losses at first. Well anyway, thanks OP for making it clear particularly for those beginners in gambling who are dying to win huge amount like you had won. Now, they will refrain from messaging you because they know already that you are just trying to recover your big losses. I think what all gamblers should realize that gambling should not be seen as a source of income, or instant wins, knowing it could also lead you to a life changing losses if you don’t gamble responsibly.

Of course people should gamble responsibly but I believe it is only natural to bet like 20.000 dollars a bet when you have won 417.000 dollars and that cannot be avoided.I place bets with little money 2-10 dollars bet on big parlays and this is because of my limited budget,the rare times I hit a big parlay like an over 300 dollars win then the bets are not anymore 2-10 dollars but are 15-40 dollars per bet and this is something I know for sure every single gambler does,they try to maximize the rewards.

You have done well to put here your loses as most likely these can serve you first and foremost and then other people who maybe thinking that winning at gambling is easy.

if you share stories about your defeats it means you are a great gambler, sometimes what we see is people always show off their gambling wins but never share stories about losing in gambling, not many people want to share those stories, BTW your advice is important for novice gamblers to gamble with what they can afford to lose, so don't force yourself to have to sell any valuable assets just to play gambling and become a life-ruining addict just because you want to win big wins.  ;)

The lesson is not to over shoot the betting budget just because of the estimated reward. Some bettors don't really look at the risk of losing but are so eager for how much potential is there at the end but unfortunately we know with experience that no game is a guarantee winning because the element of hard luck can outplay itself against a "sure bet" just with what op posted on the games he expected to win. Another point is that the difference between huge win and small win is in the staking power, so keeping it gradual and betting according to what we can lose or forfeit and not according to our risk appetite because every person would like a high risk appetite.

Threads are getting pages and pages because the of discussions of picks though. Every sport and match is asked looking in hopes of tips from fellow gamblers. $20,000 is quite a confident bet.

How often do you win will be the next question because if the rate is still worth it, those users who sent you PM still have the hope to take the risk of your picks.

I wish I had this money that I could gamble I do not put more then $10 at a time because I cannot afford to lose any more. I do not know how people can risk their money when they could be using it for other things in their life. I could never put a bet of $600000 even if I had that money and would be willing to lose it I would go invest it into some thing else that would be safer. Gambling has too many variables and I think I would have bought Bitcoin with that money instead.

Every person has their own take when it comes to gambling. Some of these high rollers don't think about the amount.
Whereas, like you, I also don't bet big. I play from time to time just to pass the time, but I always set my limits.
Whenever I used that amount, I stop. Though I play to extend my games, but if I feel that I can't recover such losses, I call it a day already.
In this game, it is your own self who can only stop from playing. If you think you need to allot your money to important things, you can always do so.
It is hard to stop sometimes if you are already chasing losses. This is where some gamblers are getting addicted as they won't stop up until they totally used their bankroll.

That's so nice of you that you didn't take advantage of those bettors that want to have some additional chance of winning through your picks. Because in the past, there have been those tips being offered just because they've been winning with the sizeable amount and chances that they've got were better than the rest so they think that they should open a service offer for producing tips and picks every day. But most of those didn't go successfully and just as you've mentioned, it's good that you clear that in gambling there's no guarantee for all of the picks that you'll do which is true. You might also satisfy some folks that have been looking for your losses because they're not satisfied about what you've shared which was only about your wins.

I am very glad that you have shown forum users not only your successful bets, but also the bets that led you to losses. In my opinion this is a good example to show that in betting as well as in gambling the outcome very often depends on luck and not only on the professionalism of the bettor.

Good luck to you and I hope you'll share more successes with us in the future!

It is the right decision to reject people asking you to use their money for betting no matter how good their promise of sharing the winnings.  People who has no intention to take advantage of people will kindly decline funds like that.  And this shows that @OP is a good person and at the same time wise gambler.  

It is also great that @OP shares his losses so that people will know that winning in gambling is not easy as we think.  Besides, gambling result is random although sports betting might give us an easier way to win if we have the skill and knowledge of the data and statistics of the player or teams at the end of the day there is always a variable factor that will greatly affect the result of the game.  


@OP is a veteran of sportsbetting , I think :).  He is very confident with his sports analysis but that loss simply shows that gambling isn't always a win even though we are confident about our knowledge on sports betting and it is good of him that he share that losing experience for the sake of educating us about gambling possibilities.

We know that each person does have their own financial capability on dealing up with things and this is why we should really accept that there are people who could really afford or do make out those big amounts which
we do really have those thoughts that it would be better if they would really be make use into other things which these people arent realizing or simply they do have that lots of money and thats why they arent really that minding. It is really just that amazing on how these fellas do thrown out thousands of dollars on each bet or roll on t he time that they do gamble. We know that this is a game of luck where losses and winnings
are inevitable but in general sense on which gambling do always talks about the risks.

Thank you for being transparent. I often get greedy when i see posts or videos winning insane amount of money. At that moment all i see is the winnings and completely forget that most people don't get those. In fact many people lose a lot while pursuing jackpots.

I see this mentality especially people who play lottery. Changes are astronomically high. When changes are one to too high numbers for people to comprehend. They tend to forget the odds and just think what they would buy with the jackpot. In fact that could be the best part of the game i suppose.

If people would posted all their losses, most games bets with low changes of winning would seem unattractive.

Thank you for sharing this. People respond quickly to results and winning and tend to forget the periods of losses and they somehow wish they can have one without the other. In gambling, trading, investing, starting a business, or launching your platform, there is a huge element of risk, the risk that you could lose out in the end. If you do win after different trials, you should inform people of the losses which led up to it so they have a full idea, and I respect you for talking about that.

Gambling is just like bitcoin trading, but less reliable. Always let people know of the risks.

- Jay -

People should realize this on which when it comes to gambling then risks would always the main thing that you would encounter then whats the thing that you do mainly need? Of course it would be talking about
luck which does really plays a main role when we do speak about winning. Good thing that you do make out that kind of realistic approach toward sports betting and did show to the public that anyone could mess up
even on a one sided match or even how low the odds it would be.It doesnt really guarantee a sure win and this is where people should really be believing.
There would be no assurance when it comes to gambling because anything could really happen along the way which would really be changing up on what are those expected results.

This is where we do say that regrets do always come at end, when you are pushing that hard and trying out to make things happen on something on your mind then you would be ending up on a disaster because this isnt

how things goes. Gambling is for fun and only bet on the amount which you can afford to lose.Dont go into certain lengths which it isnt really that ideal anymore because you would really be losing money if you do stick with those false hopes and beliefs.

Slight chance of losing could still count as chance on losing your money which is the very basic concept of gambling.

Gambling is a game of luck and it can hit you profit today and next tommorow you lose everything you have achieved, so therefore i want us to believe such point, because if you keep the documents of what you use in playing gambling and what you don't use in playing gambling, you will notice that sometimes the lost will be higher than the profit and it's difficult before you can see the profit go higher than what you spent so far.

there will always be losses and winnings in gambling. and if you're not prepared for it, you will go deep not only with debt but trouble in terms of your family relationships. do remember that this is gambling and no one is immune to losses at some point of their journey. so if you are not up to it, much better to walk a different path before it is too late for you. hard to keep those list of winnings and losses if you have active gambling activities. sometimes big losses and winnings are just the only ones which really stick to your mind.

Good for you, some people post only the bright side of their gambling career, it's like Instagram photos, you don't post bad ones, so for you to post your losses now after seeing how people reacted to seeing your big win is admirable, you felt the guilt of their gambling addiction, because I gotta be honest, when I see someone win a big bet, it starts to look easy for me too, but with seeing those losses you posted, it sets me back a little, that Wawrinka one was wild.

Thanks for the clarification mate, indeed, we will only see or hear what gamblers are going to tell us, those big wins. But at least you open everything with those big bets that you put and it seems that it was a "sure win", nevertheless it was a very bad break to lose those games with incredible odds to win. Just surprises me though that you got a ton of PM's regarding your huge wins, hehehe. Still base on luck though, so I guess for them, they should take that risk and maybe one day they can win big just like what you reach the last time. Right now I'm on a losing streak myself, Lol, but I do know that one of this days, maybe lucky luck will smile on me.  :)

I saw your victories and today I see your defeats, when you look back, are you in profit or are you in loss? do you intend to continue betting these large sums of money or do you already realize that it is time to stop gambling and focus on other things, because the purpose of gambling in the long term is that the bank will break, even if it takes a long time to person is playing and does not give up, then the bank will break and the person will have to put more money to play, so I ask you if you still intend to continue playing with high amounts of money or have you already stopped playing?

another question I have is: how did you withdraw that high amount of money from the casino to the bank? the casino didn't create problems for you? how did you analyze the games knowing that you were going to put a lot of money in the bet, did that not create pressure? did you watch every game you placed bets on? I also noticed that in your multibet bets you added soccer, tennis, baseball, a mixture of sports, how did you deal with all that? because tennis games are boring to watch, and I'm not even going to talk about baseball, because I can't watch this one for even 5 minutes

WoW, that's a really huge loss there, bro. Some will not expose this information because they want people to see them as gambling pros who always make winning predictions and tips. "In gambling, nothing is guaranteed." is a nice gambling tip because every sure bet could turn into a loss, but some people forget that tip. When my two friends and I first started gambling, we looked for possible ways to get some predictions, and we went searching on Facebook and found a lot of groups and pages that offer gambling tips, but the admin said we would have to pay first to get the predicted numbers, and after we did, we were given some sports booking codes, but among all that we paid for, there were no wins, so we were scammed. That's how we took the decision to learn the tips ourselves, and from them, I also got a gambling tip that stuck in my head: "no matter how professional a gambler is, they will still face losses.". 

Your message is now balanced mate. You have indeed done the right thing. When people saw the stories about your mega wins they assume that gambling is a win-win situation or game but showing us your losses has shown that one can also lose. When I read your first post I thought you were a scammer that wanted to attract people but from what you have shown now I should confess that I am wrong. I am also pleased to know that you refused to collect money from members to give them game tips, this is a very selfless act. I must say that you should keep up the good work and thank you for your advice on responsible gambling.

Indeed. This is the reality in gambling, winning is not guaranteed. Behind those huge wins flexing by gamblers, there's a story of losses and we don't know how much they already spent before winning such amount. It's a good thing you showed your losses as well so that these people messaging you will realize that it's not only about winning because losses are also part of it.

That's how it should be. Don't gamble if you can't control yourself because it can lead to serious problem.

Those numbers are pretty big and am very amazed and i am not shocked lot of newbies or gamblers sending messages on you as you win big because you bet big. I am just glad that your thread are true as you know a lot of people here make a thread just for the sake of merit. You bets are really huge and i cant imagine betting that huge but again you are spending money you can afford to lose then its okay for you

You have a really great experience in sports betting. And I assume that you also have a great amount of knowledge on the sports that you are betting on. We can learn a lot from your experiences. But one thing that I appreciate you speaking is that even in sports betting luck plays an important role. I know that there are gamblers who may not agree because luck is usually associated with casino games, but I am with you. Even in sports games where the main factor is the skills of the players, luck is still powerful enough to make results, even unexpectedly.

The OP is doing the right thing, those that want to become professional gamblers or professional traders most of the time have a mistaken view of how this could work out.

They seem to believe that if they are to become professionals in one of those two professions then they will find a way to never lose, and this is false, a professional gambler will lose money as well and if they are unlucky they could not earn any money for months, and very few gamblers can survive that long without any form of income.

This is something that many of us repeat in this section but many people do not get it into their heads. As I commented in another thread, it can be seen that there are many people who see in this the possibility of an easy way out of their dissatisfaction with life, but in general it is neither an easy way out, and in many cases when they win a big jackpot they end up betting it all again and more.

It is to your credit that you have been transparent and honest in showing your losses as well. Hats off to you.

This thread basically shows it takes too much effort and experience to find accurate bets and in this way you will keep losing some bets numerous times. It will cost you ten thousands of dollars basically. I think it's about destiny or chance. Sometimes the matches we see as guarenteed can have extraordinary results because goalkeeper getting injured etc or referee messing match up with terrible decisions like penalties whistled so on.

It was the right decision from Op by not receiving payment for those who asked for betting tips unless Op decided to open a betting tip service so that whatever results will be obtained by bettors who follow the bets, it will not be a problem.
Op also acted correctly by posting his defeat because it could be people who asked for betting tips from him because he thought Op was a bettor who was always right in his choices even though in gambling losing and winning had the same opportunities.

Sadly, they don't care about that. What they care more is the possible earnings that they can get when they gamble.
I've seen here in forums users who are sharing their worst moments in gambling. I've seen also here some of the best advices that a gambler can share to those who had bad experience in gambling.

There might be some who are learning after they experience the most hurtful thing that they can experience, but there are some who are hard-headed and will never realize their wrongdoings. There are still gamblers who after losing huge amount of money, will again gamble without any discipline or can't control themselves at all.

Winning and picking in bets takes time. What others see is only the winnings, but they aren't looking at the amount of money that they've spend and the possible losses just to get that amount. Like OP said, LUCK plays a big role in gambling, but aside from that, I believe that attitude plays a big role in gambling as well.

Experience and defeat usually teach us many things to become more expert at gambling, but sometimes everything takes luck too and not only good at predicting gambling, I am also not an expert at gambling but OP teaches many things that to get big results we need dare to lose big money, but never try to be OP because gambling must be wise according to what we can afford to lose.

OP taught us two things you can win a big amount and you can lose a big amount, it's not easy to win a big amount if you are not risking losing a big amount, high rewards can be attained if you are willing to take the risk, the second is you have to be realistic that you can lose successively and the big amount and even if you lose a big amount it will always hurt even if you are comfortable with it you need to be honest on your winning and your losing.

Indeed, gambling has two sides and it's good that you also touch on the presence of a loss as a natural process of the game. The fact that you won big does not mean that it will last for a long time and is also not a guarantee of winning for other players. when spreading your experience, I think this should cool some jackpot-hungry users from further dm's to you.

I always tell anyone that would gamble to do it with their heads calculating well, they should never believe that gambling will make them rich overnight. Gambling could be surprising, but the gambling that will make one get so rich would have been the one that high risk has been taken, which I do not like at all.

I prefer to be making my money bit by bit in gambling and use my small amount as usual while I face my real job for the expected riches.

It is so fun this way.

Yeah, I think this should be universal for everyone, we should only gamble money that we can afford to lose otherwise you will be on a total downward spiral if you continue to gamble money that is allotted to other things that is more important to you.

And with that, it takes a lot of mental discipline and self control as you have said, and it's not going to be easy whether you are a beginner gambling or more experience one as it will just kick anytime and then you have to fight that demon out within yourself.

I already know these things because I am not new in gambling anymore but I don't know why it's hard to discipline myself and the worst thing that I do not want to happen, happens again. Last day I decided to gamble and luckily win some profits. Successfully withdraw the money but the next day I have the urge to gamble so I deposit all what I withdraw last day, but this time I was unfortunate. Yes, I lose all the money :(.

My only hope now, is if I can recover those amount using the monthly bonus that I can get from this site that I am playing. I hope so and I think I will try to discipline myself again to control my urges in a playing gambling.

We have to be genuine and real if you will post your amazing winning here you should also post your losses, there is no such thing as a perfect gambler only in movies we can see god of gamblers who never lose big bets, we are all just humans, there are flaws in our prediction because gambling is very unpredictable.
With OP's post, we get the idea that gambling is still a game of chance and even in sports betting good analysis will not guarantee good results.

I like this thread for one reason, OP boldly came out frankly to tell the truth about the real thing going on with gambling, I've been seing many threads that will only come and display you their recent winning because they made a big catch and will not advise or show you on the past losses and ugly occurrences they have been making in gambling over years, to me that is not good enough as expected, we must make the balance and let people know that the same vein you can gamble and win also lies in loosing and show them your experience with making losses that are huge in gambling.

Only bet for small amount money or amount you can afford to lose, even though you're convinced if your bet is most likely to win based on your prediction and analysis, but something bad can happen. There's a lot events where the heavy favorite team or player was lose against the heavy underdog, this was unexpected by everyone, but it's not a fixed match, so everyone need to accept it.

Never gamble with a lot of money if you can't afford the losses that will come if your bet fails. That's what we must always remember when gambling because we can never always win at every bet, so we must remember that we can only try to bet and accept whatever the result is. And don't use the money you can't afford.

Thus, you will not gamble with big money like others and will only gamble with enough money. If we can do that, we might be able to enjoy gambling more and accept the results.

I really appreciate what you have to say in this thread.

But actually, as we all agreed. that in gambling, winning or losing is commonplace and isn't that the most interesting part of the art of betting. in particular, in sports betting which we both enjoy. even so, I prefer to bet on football. true, nothing is easy in every gamble and it doesn't matter how big or small the bet we make. in essence, luck plays a big role, regardless of the insight, knowledge, expertise and experience we have. in fact, every outcome always involves a factor of luck.

And believe me, that we are very aware of what you say in this thread. the essence of what you mean, we totally understand it. because of that, we also always involve responsibility in every gambling session that we do. also, money that can afford to lose. at least, experience has given us a lot of knowledge and insight. so, no other words, good luck at the next bet.

Thanks for bravely sharing your losses, Op. This is a legit gambling-winning story because there will never be good winnings without losing. What Op have shared is the realistic gambling journey unlike others who offer tips in exchange for money but they are only providing winning stories.
We could only face two results in gambling but how we deal with it has a huge impact. It is always advised that we should gamble responsibly and bet only the funds that we can't afford to lose because we can't expect continuous winnings in gambling without losing our funds as well.

If you are a gambler the first thing that's suppose to come to your mind is losing because is real and it most sure happen so all gamblers have to prepare their heart toward it, as a gambler financial management should be your utmost concern and it has to be considered first, if you are new into this game you have trade with caution in other not to loss all.

Props to you for being transparent and shutting these people down. Until this post I believe some people really believed you have some sort of strategy (which I believe you do but hell who doesn't yeah?) that you attribute for winning these high stakes games. In any case I am quite interested with the way you lost those "guaranteed games as you put it", considering they were guaranteed games anyway. plus studying your chart the losses aren't really that coming around often which could paint yourself as a messiah to these people who are seeking your help in order to win games. I highly suggest you keep your secret to yourself as it could just insinuate them gambling more, and if they lost the blame's gonna be put on you. Again props to being very transparent and honest.

Op
It's really rare to read real information about how sports betting works and not the sh*t of auto proclaimed great tipsters.

it would be nice to follow other advice on this topic or see you post more bets on a regular basis.

I'm curious, feel free not to answer.
do you feel addicted to betting games? Last but not least why do you play such large numbers on such high odds and not split on single bets?

Thanks for sharing your loss story too and I also commend you for not accepting those who came to you privately to try to learn how and what skill (or perhaps the cheat) you used while gambling.
I think it's time for people who have noticed that they always lose their bets should accept it and if they can't keep up with the losses they should call it a quit, gambling should not be taken as a full-time job or as a means to survive.
I bet this thread will touch many gamblers who have always had the mindset that those who always post their winnings never lose any bets, that they are on a continuous winning streak.

Since you post your lose, am sure most people will now believe you are also losing and they will stop disturbing you, in gambling nobody can be winning frequently, you will definitely lose sometime and you might even lose a game you won’t believe you will lose. Most people proving fix games are just cheater’s, I don’t believe there is anything like fix matches. If you are a gambler, always do your analysis well and gamble with just the amount you can afford to lose.

This kind of honesty and responsibility is not often seen on internet. Someone without morals or responsibility would have taken advantage of the situation to pocket some money and someone with morals but without sense of responsibility would have just ignored the private messages and not set things straight the way you did.

On the other hand, it is remarkable the fact you got bombarded by those messages from people of this section. I did not know there was such big volume of people that participate here who are willing to take other's word on where to bet their money...  ???

People would really be just taking this as a normal thing but its unlikely for someone to make out those kind of words on accepting out or mentioning out their losses considering that on huge wins on where most people do

make out those boastful kind of claim that they are really that indeed lucky or trying out to impress people but seeing OP which is totally opposite.Yes, gambling is for pure luck and if you do keep on pushing for you to have that winning then it would really just make you that desperate which is something really not that recommendable.

This is why people should really be realizing that no matter how small the odds of losing but still those chances could really happen.

I'm not addicted, I sometimes go weeks/months without gambling. I live in Australia so the majority of my gambling is between April and October which is the Australian sporting calendar.

I don't always play large amounts but I prefer to go for quality over quantity, I've had more success that way. If I have a big win I am happy to outlay more. Regardless of my gambling I don't bet what I can't afford to lose.

Right. Gambling is still based on luck, and mostly your big wins still cannot surpass your previous huge losses too in the past. I’m just surprised that OP made it more transparent for us, that these big wins currently do not happen instantly, OP endured his big losing streak first before he won these huge amount. Hope this will leave clarity that gambling is never a win-win all the time, it’s a fair share of losses and wins and it’s up to the gambler itself on how he’d manage to recover his losses and maximize his winning streak.

Reality in this industry is that, there are players who won bigtime but along their way, they have suffered from huge losses, which is being disregarded by new players in gambling. They are more caught with the idea that winning would make an individual rich in an instant, which gives them the drive to just risk most of the time without managing the amount they are betting with.It won't always be upsies on gambling. It is simply based on one's fate and luck meaning, most of the time, you have no control of the outcome. What you can control is your drive whether to push through luck or to be disciplined enough to take a pause when you are continuously losing. A player could also move from one game to another in order to calibrate their luck (without basis), but a better way than to keep rolling with the same game waiting for your turn to win.

I do see gambling like the way we trading. Gambling has two side and is either you are a winner or a loser, this two options one must come in. We can nit always be a winner, there are time when we are going to lose seeing it as an opportunity for us to work on our strategies and get a better path for a new winning style. If we don't lose then we are not going to know how it felt like having a losing game. This is one thing that helps us to sharpen our game so we can always make be a better gambler with bigger opportunity coming to us.

Neither you do make yourself get involved with Trading or gambling, which it is true that it could only give two common outcomes which is to win/profit or losing which it would really be depending on the situation.
Although we know that trading cant be considered as purely with gambling considering that analysis and other approaches will really be that common.We know that leisure things cant get in line with
those things that involves business and other venture which are really good for sustaining if its done well.The most important thing is that you should make yourself that kept on positive side despite of the losses that you do commit or experience.

Therefore, we should treat gambling as it is so we don't become losers who experience too many losses.
Many people have experienced it and we don't need to follow what they get and it's better for us to stay on the right track by not using a lot of money to gamble.
Gambling responsibly means that we pay attention that gambling will not always give us big wins because we have to have luck and that luck will not always come to us.
That's why we can't rely on gambling to make money because when we lose, we can use up more money if we don't control ourselves and it's not responsible gambling.

A lot of people always look for opportunities that can give them a chance to increase the percentage of them winning a game and earn money, so reading a post as good as OP's last one where he made 400k with only $300 or something, I don't remember the numbers correctly. Anyway, so those who read that post were definitely going to ask for tips from him and there is no surprise that it happened.

What OP did is really appreciable that he didn't accept the money offered to him to provide tips and betting opinions when he could easily earn a lot of money with it if he wanted to.

It's funny how gamble responsibly could mean differently from one gambler to another. That is like saying gamble what you can afford to lose, and you, OP, is betting as high as $20,000. Of course, you can afford to lose that. To somebody else, or perhaps to most of us here, that is already a life-changing amount we wouldn't just risk on a wager.

Anyway, I'm just saying that what gamblers can afford to lose widely differs. It could be $1. It could be $10 or $100 or $1,000. Or it could be $20,000. The point is that the money that a gambler should bet is an extra.

How I wish I could gamble like you, OP!

He won 400K which makes 20k a bit of a tiny extra amount for him. But if the small timers see his picks to be a real deal, they small timers will bet thier bottom dollar for his tips. You'd be amazed how words can be open to interpretation for people desperate to win big.

I can only see big amounts on the poker cup tournament where people easily just throw 50K and then fold. The extra money for some gamblers is like the entire savings of some people.

I followed your first thread and yeah I am amazed of how much you made from that 300 dollars bet but now I understand the whole thing here.

I start to believe that you are a man with a friend of Luck that is why the outcome of your bets are huge but now that the Behind the scene is released here, I may think of how to follow or deny your betting tips.

there isa  bit amount of money that also at losing and not what people think that you are truly a winner.

thanks for this thread mate , a reminder that gambling is still a hard place to win big.             

It's not wrong to ask advises regarding betting, but it is a big no-no to receive an amount in order to receive tips on how to and where to bet. I highly praise you for doing the latter OP.

It makes sense that most of those private messages wanted to learn and earn profit from sportsbet, but as the OP says there is no assurance as to which team would win in the next, it may be due to different factors or not, there're still possibilities of losing. By saying that you guys should be responsible on your bets, it's also indicating that whether you follow his tips or not it's your own responsibility if you lose. He has nothing to do with it, besides he isn't asking any service fee from that.

Yes, of course, everything is individual and according to the situation, after a big win, perception changes and a person can calmly react to the amounts that previously made him tremble. And he usually makes quite large bets on events in which there seemed to be confidence.

It's nice to see you post your losses here on the forum, because with this I'm sure most people will now get to understand that in gambling winning is never 100% guaranteed, and at such we should always afford to gamble with an amount of money we can always afford to loss at every moments in time.
Although, the earlier post you made about you using $300 to win $410,000 was quite tempting, of which many would have thought that maybe you are a super predictor who never losses or buys fixed games, which is why you got so much inbox. But however, I'm happy you finally came back to clarify everyone that this can be done with just the help of an online too for sport predictions.

I think this thread was really forced after the dm's flow to the OP after he shared a successful game on sports betting, but it's useful and sincere.

Regarding the regular placement of current sports betting from OP, it would be interesting, but it seems to me that many players can believe in omens, for example, it's like telling a secret, the "sacredness" of which is lost after disclosure and luck goes away, I don't mean OP of course. :)

When I read the first paragraph of your post about winning a bet, I immediately thought to myself, "I'll have to start betting too." Every time I look around, all I see are people winning, and when they tell me about their wins, all I can think about is asking them for betting advice. I never even think to ask them about their losses. I now realize that luck plays a role in betting, and that it's still important to know what you're betting on, just as it's important to have a fundamental understanding of cryptocurrencies before investing in it.

You made the right decision by refusing to take money from anyone because when you accept money from them they will expect a guaranteed win and when they lose a bet they will look for a way to point the finger at you and think you are nothing more than a scammer.

Do you know that gambling is capable of taking back everything it has given to you? You used 300$ to make over 400k and you believe that you can still make more? Bro gambling is sometimes like a spiritual place.

If you are not careful all the 400k will be gone in no time, this is what happen to those gamblers who won but don't believe it they just got lucky.

Accept that you got luck, doing so will wake up the level of awareness and you will be very careful on what to bet on next.

You said it perfectly.  ;)
Some gamblers think it was that easy to hit a long parlay but it took a lot of time to analyze the game and trying to review every possible outcome.
Then, there's the courage to take the high risk of betting small but winning with a low chance because there's always the possibility it can go south in just one leg.

What you did was the right thing, it's not just about taking money or anything, it will also be prevented from being blamed by these people in the long run. They will possibly bash you for being fake if they cannot get what they are dreaming of, a jackpot.

Thinking that you will not run out of luck so you will keep pushing yourself and continue instead of quitting and enjoy such a huge amount of winning, we can't really say, but it was a wasted opportunity.

If you know how to control and how to limit yourself, then for sure you are enjoying the amount of profits that you
can earn from gambling, but without that capabilities, only regret will be the next thing that you will know
after the game.

This is what I'm waiting. With your previous post, I already thought that many people might ask you for advice since you won such a huge amount with using only $300. Winning hundred thousands of dollars with only hundred as your initial deposit will really make people curious about how you did it and thus, encourage them to gamble by thinking they also have the chance to win such amount. There's really nothing wrong with using your experience as their driving force or motivation to gamble better for a chance of winning. But of course, they should be reminded that in gambling, there's no guaranteed winning despite how sure and confident you are on the bet you've made. And I'm really glad you posted once again to address this issue.

There's always two sides in gambling: the good and the bad one. It's either you win or lose, there's nothing in between. Hence, you must be careful not to make impulsive decisions that could cost you so much and will make you hate yourself later on. Losing is a part of anyone's gambling journey. But its percentage can be lowered with the right approach and possessing the necessary qualities such as being disciplined, knowledgeable, strategic, and with a little mix of luck.

This is also why I was intrigued with the initial post from the OP and curious at the same time how he manage to accumulate such winnings. Though it's obvious that there is a winning streak here, the thought that it took a long time in order to analyze the games and the confidence to accept the losses which he can afford is not something anyone can do.

If it is regular person such as me, I would already be contented reaching $100,000 or $150,000. That really differs from every person coz even $50,000 amount is already huge enough profit for me. There will be time someday when I can happily wager that kind of amount.

OP is being truthful and being bold enough to share his own experience with us, what about others who can't even be proud of their actions or take responsibility for it, the mistakes we made were meant for others to learn from innother for them not to fall a victim as we did, but honestly gamblers have alot to say when it's comes to gambling experience and you will be so surprised hearing from others view in this.

The good thing I like about her is she didn't take the money that is being offered to her in exchange for the tips when she can easily do that. She will only say that she is not perfect and some of the tips that she gives still can fail. Others out there are only proud of their winning moments.

I think those guys only wants to show off or possibly want to make money from other naive bettors. Mistakes of others does not always mean or can served as a lesson to others because those people can still learn with their mistakes. Gambling is about winning and losing. The stories that we hear pertaining to it are almost the same but only differs from the amount that is involved.

Players who are asking for tips regardless of the amount of money that they will spend on it don't actually know the real risk of gambling. They might also have the wrong mindset that if a gambler is winning, he has a good strategy without knowing that a successful gambler could also go through a lot of losses and failures. If others are winning, we should not disregard that they might have lost a lot too before winning a big amount and that's what we should be ready about.

I love your transparency on your gambling activities because those who were sending you PM,wouldn't know that you have loss so much before winning. This is the problem in gambling, when a gambler wins big,everybody will begin to ask questions about how the strategy he used. Forgetting that he might have lost so big and he only just won little of his loss.

Gambling is based and luck most times,if you are on your lucky moment,winning becomes easy and fun,but the moment it slips away,losing is that next. If gamblers can understand that you don't gamble to win but gamble for fun,the better chances of getting close to winning.

The OP deserves to be commended for the clarity he has shown. We are all human but many of us become exceptional and many remain ordinary. The reason behind this is that some have succeeded and some have failed. OP is also one who has made a good position in gambling. Moreover, he warns those who private message him by paying money, which certainly shows honesty.

Well. I don't know.
I thought we all here already agreed that does not matter how much of a person is good at sport betting, there is not such things as a guaranteed win.
Can you imagine the face of someone who pays for sport betting tips and still ends up in negative (added to the fee thay are supposed to pay).

It is very easy to scam people with tips. It is matter to create several Telegram groups, with different tips, until convincing a small group you are a professional guru, who cant be wrong and it is worth of paying for.

They have the same thoughts about it that it's an easy money and if OP does it, that can also happen to them. It's very good that OP gives a clarity that it shouldn't go like that.

It should be thought at all times that every big amount a gambler wins, there's always those first tries that he had made and losses that he has taken before getting to those wins.

My $400k win has nothing to do with my big bets. If I didn't win that I would still bet the same. I have won six figure bets before I won that $400k bet. I only bet what I can afford to lose and I keep my personal money and gambling money completely separate.

This should really be done basically or something in default on which you should really be that separating your personal money into your gambling funds which is only allocated to that. In basic principle of gambling
then each one of us does have that different financial capacity on which it would really be that understandable that there are really people who are really that not good when it comes on controlling themselves about
on how much they do spent.People should really be realizing that getting involved on gambling doesnt always mean about winning huge out of those small bets.Just like on you where you do mentioned
how many digits which is mostly on 6 figure which is something that would amaze people on how much you do spent out.

Nice high rolling, the only way t win big is by betting big, the only problem with this is that when you lose then you lose big. But since is money that you can afford to lose, then it's not a big deal.

Thanks for sharing your losses and your wins as a high roller, the big bets make from gambling something really exiting, and I hope one of these days you hit the $1M profit on a single shot.

This is what I want, it would be fairer to share about your unlucky day as well not just the winnings being shared.
Your story will be one of the motivations for other gamblers to really realize that gambling with responsibility is much better and you really have to do it to be able to control yourself in gambling.
Many people may have ignored you in the threads you created in the past but after posting this thread more people will believe what you say and I wish you could also share your betting tips here if you want but this is not advice

The odds are crazy high  :o, I usually do multiple bets or what they called parlay but my odds are only reaching up to 84x. It seems that you are really taking high risks and high reward because the odds are reaching into 1000x+. You have also some bets that almost win and that feeling is one of the most irritating feeling that you could experience. Anyway bounce back and I know that you can win big again because you have a good psychology as a gamblers and also good skill to pick in team that has the highest probability to win.

I'd like to give focus on what you said regarding to gamble what you have afford to lose because it only proves the uncertainty nature of the gambling wherein you are not sure if you will earn money or if you will lose money. Be a defensive gambler where you think first to the money that you could give up before think how to spend the money that you could probably win. By gambling responsibly, you cannot get any emotional discomfort even if you are in consecutive losses.

Gambling can take all of our money, but gambling can also give us more money we cannot imagine. And @OP has managed to get that big win and maybe @OP really has to suffer a defeat before he can get a big win.

And @OP only bets using the money he can afford and hopefully, @OP can still win in the next bet. And that's what we have to do in gambling, not use more money just to chase victory. If we can't afford to bet like @OP, we can bet a small amount so the loss won't be too big.

Obviously, OP is a high roller and I think there’s no wrong with that as long as he only bet his extra money, not his hard-earned money. But it seems he really gamble responsibly because he is also making his fair share of winnings. However, the good thing about him is he never hide from us his previous huge losses, the reason why he also bet big amount so he can recover his losses easily once he got lucky. But for most of us here, make sure that we should only gamble on an amount we can afford to lose, because once we lose in gambling, there’s no way we can easily regain the amount and it takes another luck or chance to win significant winnings.

not many dare to share their unlucky day, most people are more focused on sharing their winnings, namely by publishing screenshots of big profits and it will not look attractive to people here, this method is good enough to attract attention that gamblers must understand every risk and most importantly responsible for what he risked  ;)

Sharing the loss, whether it's a big defeat or a small defeat, is tantamount to embarrassing yourself because gamblers are considered to have no luck and are not right in making strategies when they say they have lost.
Even so, actually sharing defeats can indirectly provide knowledge to other gamblers because from the information on the results of the defeat, of course we will provide feedback and also learn about the defeat.
It is clear that every gambler who dares to bet in a game or bet they can be responsible because by daring to bet they are the same as being responsible for all the risks they will receive.
But before that, what kind of responsibility do you mean?

We should know that winning and losing both are part of gambling and we should not pay attention only to one side.
It's true that most of the people only post their winnings on this board and not their losses.
So we must know that winning money in gambling is not so easy. We need a lot of luck and good skills.

I have made some huge losses too but that's how I learnt that we should never go out of our limits when it comes to gambling.
The amount we use to gamble is where the game changes. If it's something we can't lose and then lose the bet then that's where the trouble begins.

It's surprising and commendable at the same time that you refused to take money to provide tips or picks as I think if there was anyone in place of you, he would definitely take a lot of money combined from all the people who were reaching out privately, and provide them with tips, and even if the tips were wrong and they didn't win, he wouldn't be blamed for it since they came to him themselves and he didn't advertise any services, but you did a good thing right there.

About declaring your losses, it's another great thing you did which will definitely show all the people who think it's just winning in sports betting and don't realize that even sports betting is a hard thing to master and even the experts can lose big in it if luck turns against them.

Because majority of people only want to see the good thing e.g. beat the house, not get beaten by the house. When someone suffer big losses, they will think the person can't gamble or there's no gain for them, because when someone win a big amount money. they tend to giveaway small amount money to their subscribers or followers.

However posting a big losses is actually needed because in gambling you will not always make money, it's impossible.