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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Maxcarter on March 15, 2023, 12:05:19 AM



Title: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: Maxcarter on March 15, 2023, 12:05:19 AM
What happened::
I saw  the post that the guy is selling vcc, i contacted him  and sent him the amount due, he tlld 15min and he will send send me  the details , after 3 hours he comes and say that the vcc in question doesnt work  properly , if i need  better vcc i should pay more . So I  sent him  the amount needed. After be sends me the account, the account in question is protected   by 2 factor auth that I  dont have access to , so the account is useless. I contacted him to fix the problem and now he is ghosting me.
Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3533413
Reference Link:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441867.msg61843273#msg61843273
Amount Scammed: 40$
Payment Method: bnb
Proof of Payment: transaction Id :
-0x26d6fdc0172b9926bcf1cc7634fec22aca08281b952fbcdc90b9efa7d98886d8
-0xb38761c23e16d193042a6a7594dc0c0794a3896b7c969fb9ece220e8824ac45c

PM/Chat Logs: https://ibb.co/c14M16b
https://ibb.co/fD08s7n
https://ibb.co/hmgVw1c

Additional Notes: account image : https://ibb.co/cQ2fQwP


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: shasan on March 15, 2023, 12:20:32 AM
I saw  the post that the guy is selling vcc, i contacted him  and sent him the amount due
Sorry for your loss and we have nothing to do except say sorry. You could avoid this scam if you used escrow from this list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5047302.0). You have trusted someone who is a newbie who has no reputation on the forum and whom you can't trace. We should believe someone who has rank/reputation or we can trace if there happens anything wrong.


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: logfiles on March 15, 2023, 01:02:45 AM
How could you trust a person with not even a single reputation in this forum with $40?
I wouldn't even trust such a newbie account, with $1

After be sends me the account, the account in question is protected   by 2 factor auth that I  dont have access to , so the account is useless.
Could you please post a screenshot of the account in question requesting for 2FA verification?


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: _act_ on March 15, 2023, 07:26:32 AM
How could you trust a person with not even a single reputation in this forum with $40?
I wouldn't even trust such a newbie account, with $1
That is the problem with people's ignorance, that account for the scammer was created just a month ago, not having any good reputation or positive trust. Even as the account is young, I can not trust it yet even if it has one or two reputation. I have always prefer old accounts which is active and of good reputation, or especially the ones in campaign worth more than my money which would be small to what he is collecting weekly.


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: Maxcarter on March 15, 2023, 10:15:43 AM
How could you trust a person with not even a single reputation in this forum with $40?
I wouldn't even trust such a newbie account, with $1

After be sends me the account, the account in question is protected   by 2 factor auth that I  dont have access to , so the account is useless.
Could you please post a screenshot of the account in question requesting for 2FA verification?
Done


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: Krislaw on March 15, 2023, 12:58:46 PM
How could you trust a person with not even a single reputation in this forum with $40?
I wouldn't even trust such a newbie account, with $1

After be sends me the account, the account in question is protected   by 2 factor auth that I  dont have access to , so the account is useless.
Could you please post a screenshot of the account in question requesting for 2FA verification?
Done

This looks like you purchased a Stripe account which the scammer never mentioned in any the service thread. And you could have cut your loss by not sending the second payment and using an escrow in the first place. Sorry for your loss.
Nothing can be done at this moment than to tag the scammers profile.


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: SFR10 on March 15, 2023, 01:18:54 PM
Proof of Payment: transaction Id :
-0x26d6fdc0172b9926bcf1cc7634fec22aca08281b952fbcdc90b9efa7d98886d8
-0xb38761c23e16d193042a6a7594dc0c0794a3896b7c969fb9ece220e8824ac45c

I have limited knowledge with regard to altcoins as a whole, but "based on this page (https://bscscan.com/address/0x10bab148e736c91c7e897ae46f8c547330944e27)", it seems that you sent these two transactions through Binance, so you might want to "report him/her on Binance (https://www.binance.com/en/support/faq/how-to-report-scams-on-binance-support-49b6dbdd87ed4c60b527375918ab5683)" as well [it may not help in getting the $40 back, but it might prevent someone else from making the same mistake].

How could you trust a person with not even a single reputation in this forum with $40?
If I were to guess, I'd say it probably had something to do with the fact that OP also sells digital goods stuff, and thought maybe all of the existing sellers are honest.
@Maxcarter: Unfortunately, scams aren't moderated here!

Done
Would you mind doing the same thing for the conversation part?
- Don't forget to censor/blur sensitive parts.


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: Maxcarter on March 15, 2023, 01:31:30 PM
Proof of Payment: transaction Id :
-0x26d6fdc0172b9926bcf1cc7634fec22aca08281b952fbcdc90b9efa7d98886d8
-0xb38761c23e16d193042a6a7594dc0c0794a3896b7c969fb9ece220e8824ac45c

I have limited knowledge with regard to altcoins as a whole, but "based on this page (https://bscscan.com/address/0x10bab148e736c91c7e897ae46f8c547330944e27)", it seems that you sent these two transactions through Binance, so you might want to "report him/her on Binance (https://www.binance.com/en/support/faq/how-to-report-scams-on-binance-support-49b6dbdd87ed4c60b527375918ab5683)" as well [it may not help in getting the $40 back, but it might prevent someone else from making the same mistake].

How could you trust a person with not even a single reputation in this forum with $40?
If I were to guess, I'd say it probably had something to do with the fact that OP also sells digital goods stuff, and thought maybe all of the existing sellers are honest.
@Maxcarter: Unfortunately, scams aren't moderated here!

Done
Would you mind doing the same thing for the conversation part?
- Don't forget to censor/blur sensitive parts.
Proof of Payment: transaction Id :
-0x26d6fdc0172b9926bcf1cc7634fec22aca08281b952fbcdc90b9efa7d98886d8
-0xb38761c23e16d193042a6a7594dc0c0794a3896b7c969fb9ece220e8824ac45c

I have limited knowledge with regard to altcoins as a whole, but "based on this page (https://bscscan.com/address/0x10bab148e736c91c7e897ae46f8c547330944e27)", it seems that you sent these two transactions through Binance, so you might want to "report him/her on Binance (https://www.binance.com/en/support/faq/how-to-report-scams-on-binance-support-49b6dbdd87ed4c60b527375918ab5683)" as well [it may not help in getting the $40 back, but it might prevent someone else from making the same mistake].

How could you trust a person with not even a single reputation in this forum with $40?
If I were to guess, I'd say it probably had something to do with the fact that OP also sells digital goods stuff, and thought maybe all of the existing sellers are honest.
@Maxcarter: Unfortunately, scams aren't moderated here!

Done
Would you mind doing the same thing for the conversation part?
- Don't forget to censor/blur sensitive parts.

Done


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: albon on March 15, 2023, 06:17:44 PM
What happened::
I saw  the post that the guy is selling vcc, i contacted him  and sent him the amount due, he tlld 15min and he will send send me  the details , after 3 hours he comes and say that the vcc in question doesnt work  properly , if i need  better vcc i should pay more . So I  sent him  the amount needed. After be sends me the account, the account in question is protected   by 2 factor auth that I  dont have access to , so the account is useless. I contacted him to fix the problem and now he is ghosting me.
Sad about your loss, this scammer put the two-factor verification to send you the account, and you cannot open it, or perhaps he sold it to many other people. So you had to deal through an escrow service, there will be a reliable person in this dealing as a mediator between you and the seller, and he gets the account from the seller as a mortgage and makes sure that the account is free of any advanced security measures and changes the password and email and when you transfer the agreed amount to the seller, this trusted person sends the account information to you. It's okay, you have learned the lesson now, and I hope you do not trust anyone you do not know unless you take guarantees and procedures that prevent you from falling into fraud.


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: tabas on March 15, 2023, 07:54:53 PM
I wonder if that guy has other victims too that don't speak up because they may think that the amount was just a tolerable amount that have been scammed to them. OP, although we can no longer get what's taken from you unless that guy voluntarily returns it to you.
Follow the tips that were given to you by SFR and also, when you're dealing with someone that doesn't have a reputation in the forum, just follow the advise of hiring an escrow. The fee won't be a lot for your safety and also the sellers safety. If you encounter someone again in the future that don't agree to take one and none of you willing to send first, then that's a red flag and both of you are thinking the same. That's why always end up in choosing an escrow.


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: logfiles on March 15, 2023, 10:15:11 PM
I sent him negative feedback and also created a flag against him.

You can support it so that when newbies or guest see his announcements, they will see a warning about dealing with him cautiously

Flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3135

Next time please use and escrow service or at least deal with only trusted members.


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: Maxcarter on March 16, 2023, 12:17:54 AM
I sent him negative feedback and also created a flag against him.

You can support it so that when newbies or guest see his announcements, they will see a warning about dealing with him cautiously

Flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3135

Next time please use and escrow service or at least deal with only trusted members.
I sent him negative feedback and also created a flag against him.

You can support it so that when newbies or guest see his announcements, they will see a warning about dealing with him cautiously

Flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3135

Next time please use and escrow service or at least deal with only trusted members.


Thanks


Title: Re: Warning be aware from Bestcloudsellers
Post by: SFR10 on March 18, 2023, 02:01:58 PM
Done
Thank you for providing those screenshots, but unfortunately, I couldn't find the following part in any of those screenshots...


Since this is a contractual violation, you should also "create another flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=3533413) [type 2 or 3 (scammer flags are "visible to all users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0)")]" in addition to the one logfiles created the other day:

  • ~Snipped~
    with enough support [+3], it'll become active and he'll get a "red banner (https://i.imgur.com/05MsoAb.jpg)" on top of his threads + this "warning (https://i.imgur.com/b2MGss1.jpg)" on his profile.

    Note:
    • Type 2 flag [second option] lasts for 3 years while the type 3 flag [third option], lasts for 10 years [regardless of its length, only choose the one that's appropriate for your case].