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There are people like me who dislike KYC verification requirements from online casinos, and I always have two complaints about it.

1. Why the need for KYC.

2. Why pretend they won't ask for KYC, but ask for verification after a big win.

While my lack of knowledge has kept me away from several big online casinos in this forum, I decided to do some additional research in my spare time.

Some Facts Why KYC Verification is a Necessity For Online Casinos.

~Online gambling businesses have become more attractive since the Covid19 days, more money entered the gambling business, making the attention very noticeable, also a good opportunity for the law to go after them.

~There are penalties on online gambling necks too, they have to implement anti-money laundering procedures just to survive, many online gambling platforms faced the panel in the past and ceased to exist.

~You have no idea how much these companies spend per year just to be friendly to the law and pass criterion regulations and business procedures, it is called intense regulation, to avoid fines.

~The only way these people can avoid the mistake of allowing fraudsters into their system ( gambling platform ) is by having KYC and AML (anti-money laundering ) in place.

~If you see another way that I don't, do drop your comment, because people can't be trusted, they will pretend to be a random online gambler but they have other bad intentions in mind.

From now henceforth, my assumptions about KYC verification from reputable online gambling platforms have changed, I seek for answers and I find them, drop your opinions if you think I am wrong or you think this is not accurate enough.

All of that could be part of the terms of service (TOS), or they are required by regulators to verify their clients once they hit a big amount of money. Sometimes, not all the information we need to know is present in the TOS, but as long as it's legally enforceable, we can't blame the gambling site for doing their job to comply with the regulators.

Unless in the case of scam casinos.

To be honest, i dont understand why some ppl so mad at KYC... and would like to know opinions of who is against that, just to understand an their view.

Of course verification is necessary at some point, as Source of Funds verification (depending of the amounts of course) or KYC.

All users of casinos and sports bets  want the platform they use to be honest and rigorous with their payouts and withdrawals, right?

For me, the only real way to be able to feel confident with an online casino is through the regulations it has adhered to. This guarantees security for the end user, because if the casino in question is regulated and respects the law, the chances that it will provide an honest and reliable service will be even greater.

If an online casino is not regulated or not monitored by a third party, the risk of exit scams, frozen-accounts and frozen-funds is higher. You can't have everything without paying a certain price for it ; regulations offer security to the user but cost him some of his online privacy and personnal datas.
It's a choice to make, but the choice to send your funds to a shady platform is rarely to the advantage of the end user in the long run.

There is two points to the issue of KYC which is, the right of the casino to ask KYC kyc and the second one is the right of the player to either accept to hand out the KYC document or choose to walk away to look for no kyc casino to play on.

It’s the requirements of their license to legally operate in the countries that accept their license. Casino is being use to launder money. If you are not aware then do some research.


Casino doesn’t pretend that they won’t ask KYC. User just assumed it by not reading the ToS. Their ToS stated that they can ask KYC anytime. They just didn’t do it on the spot when you register.

I hate KYC too but if this is what the law requires then we have no choice if we really want to still use the service. We have a choice to avoid using it. KYC is not necessary to ask by decentralized casino or casino without gambling license.

When you complain about your knowledge of Casino rules, it seems that you are familiar with the existing rules, especially the KYC rules.
You even elaborated on why KYC is necessary for online casinos.

Reading all the explanations of facts about KYC in online casinos, it all depends on how the policies of each online casino owner, and the role of the government also become very important in the regulations used. The application of KYC as you explained is to avoid Online Casinos being used as Money Laundering sites.
Because it is a crime that tries to eliminate traces of transactions through gambling sites.

And online casinos that apply KYC and AML regulations are online casinos that are legal and licensed by the local government.
Some online casinos that operate without KYC and do not even get permission from the government are Illegal casinos and are dangerous for users who play there.

Casinos that apply KYC also request KYC at certain times such as when withdrawing assets with the minimum amount required to do KYC or complete personal data without or requiring additional documents.

For more details about KYC regulations, you can read each FAQ or ToS of the Online Casino, there will be a detailed explanation of how the regulations function and must be obeyed.

1. Casinos enforce KYC because there are requirements that are mandatory KYC is due to a license used by casinos so that as much as possible casinos will ask KYC for all their customers with the aim of fulfilling the license requirements used. Maybe there are some casinos that don't ask for KYC but To be honest, I personally doubt whether they can be trusted to make it a favorite place to gamble.
2. Some casinos do say that they don't require KYC but in the end where when a customer gets a big win and wants to withdraw funds as a whole the casino will ask for verification or KYC with the aim of avoiding unwanted things like money laundering and so on.
We as gamblers must be able to understand all of that and be able to react properly.

if you already understand why the casino implements KYC that's good enough, but back to other gamblers sometimes there are those who like and don't like this KYC, but I'm a neutral person if the casino asks me to complete KYC and the casino has a good reputation especially the casino site is old, of course I will complete it, there is no problem for me but if I don't have to complete KYC, I continue to play and continue to withdraw money without problems, sometimes everyone's views on KYC are different so you have to understand whatever each person's choice is.  ;)

They probably doesn't want to send their personal info simple as that, and we all know that crypto should be (pseudo) anonymous, but it has change thru the years and regulators have step up and force KYC to every crypto services, including casinos. And because at one point, you just need a bitcoin address to withdraw simply as that, no questions ask.


I can understand where you are coming from, yeah, its messy and we don't like KYC, but it is what it is, it has changed a lot as I have said. They are being mandated now which is wrong, but they have to follow it so that they can remain in the space as it will be very hard for this casinos to exist without any KYC specially for big wins. So it's either you submit or not. Just for comparison though, even if you go landbased casinos and wanted to take advantage of their freebies, you will have to fill out forms and your information too.

You have covered most points but there is one point that I think you have missed. Another reason for implementing KYC is to remove anyone below the age of 18. Anonymous casinos fail to filter users below the age of that age. Almost every country only allows users 18 or above to gamble. If anyone is found below 18 then the law of the land prosecutes both the platform and the user.

KYC helps detect those users but there is a loophole. Kids now days are very smart they can easily manipulate parents to go through online KYC in the disguise of playing online games that requires credit/debit card. Parents as they are busy with their own life always go through such manipulation and only come to sense when they see their bank bills.

I don't really think it's simply because of covid, I think anything that has relation to "gambling" would require KYC simply because it's a place people can go for money laundering activities, as well as the simple fact that gambling itself has laws regulating it (such as 18 years old and above), and to properly document it as such, they'd need legal documents that indicate how old a user is.

I think them asking for KYC only on big wins is a marketing strategy, I mean the idea of KYC is totally outside of the users mind during registration since they weren't asked, so they'll just proceed as usual but when winning big or withdrawing, they'd suddenly ask of that and at that point, some (if not most) users would probably have the mindset of "might as well do it since I'm already here", which would retain them as users of said casino. There's also considering the fact that KYC at registration simply damages the casinos capability to attract user base since they probably know themselves how people hate KYC.

The more you learn about how some projects use people's identity for fraud in this space, the more cautious you will be when providing them with your personal information, some even sell those information to others. The majority of whales do not provide this information, which is the reason why some telegram groups have a low membership but high followers on Twitter. Furthermore, the information could start a high rate of spam that leaves you wondering how you got hold of it.

But sincerely speaking, it would have been better if KYC is mandatory before depositing into your gambling account on any gambling site, but gambling sites makes KYC not necessary for deposit while it is necessary during withdrawal.

Assuming you are from a restricted country, you gambled and later the gambling site know about it just because you want to withdraw. But if you do not want to withdraw, you will keep depositing into the gambling account and if you continue to lose, nothing like the gambling site knowing if you are even over 18 and the likes.

In this matter, I always which all gambling sites that makes KYC to be compulsory to make the KYC mandatory for deposit after registration.

Probably to seek for a sympathy, and seriously even if they hate this thing the site will still impose it.
What you can do is to avoid that site or read their terns and conditions first before you play on that site, usually they are posting this rules on their TOS that you will be asked for some verifications if you are going to withdraw that is beyond the usual. I also hate the site for being so dishonest but again, you have the choice to continue playing on that site or leave right away.

In case you didn't know it's privacy. Are you willing to give your personal information to someone you didn't know for free? I personally aren't willing to give my identification to someone but somehow it's needed as per casino license and their anti-cheating. There are risk on giving your identification such as your KYC information might be sold to someone or get hacked and be used on something not good such as illegal activities. People don't like submitting KYC unless they are asked to and know if it's worth it submitting. Addition to that, There are some KYC process that are really a hassle such as video KYC which I'm really uncomfortable doing.  

KYC cost them money too. There are some dedicated service who take fees for per user they verify. Now imagine a bookie have millions of users and for each user they are spending for example $5. It's minimum $5M.

KYC also help prevent abuse. When you are KYCed then chances are in a case of abuse, the bookie knows you and they will not allow you to continue with them anymore.

Casino is different from crypto projects that asking for KYC because Casino is obligated by the law to do so while projects is asking KYC for whatever nonsense reason they have. Casino use 3rd party KYC services to handle the KYC process to make sure safety of your document. I’m not 100% certain about the safety on Casino KYC but I’m more confident to this on casino with license compared to mediocre exchange and crypto projects that asking this document in spite of they are not regulated.

      -   What is the problem if a casino requires kyc? It should be because if you play with kyc you expect such things, after all you will be gambling, there is also no one forcing you to refuse or not to play at the casino that is my KYC.

Maybe you can go to the support of a casino before you start playing gambling on their platform at least that way you will know if you will continue

As a gambler he is responsible for the gambling sites and licensed casinos are liable to the laws of that country. These sites will require KYC to avoid their liability however, KYC is not a big issue for non-license based casinos. But KYC is required to avoid money laundering issues. And I don't think there is any other important issue related to KYC other than the fact of money laundering. One of the main reasons for the rapid growth of crypto casinos is that there is a gambler's anonymity.

Anonymity is negated after KYC, all casinos are already asking for verification as it's basically the regulation of the government. The nonlicensed casino only lives for a certain period of time, they may not be asking KYC but once you win big.

If you plan to continue playing without issue while you have an outstanding balance in your account. KYC is just a security for you and the casino itself that they won't be investigated.

Many casinos abuses this power. We have seen it a lot of times. Bunch of players already shared us these kind of operation of casinos.
Some were just to comply with the regulations and AML policies. But most were used because they do not want to pay; they're frauds.
It is by far hard to find any casino that won't ask for KYC. The reason is that most are being regulated by their respective governments.

The reason I think KYC is bullshit is the fact that I'm over 18 and able to make my own decisions. I don't need any government telling where I can and cannot spend my money. If I want to go blow $1000 in an online casino and try to win $50000, then that should be my right. That's not the case though, they only step in and make something illegal because they're not getting their piece of the pie. If casinos online paid each government taxes, there would likely be no KYC crap everywhere. Just my opinion.

Lots of people care about their privacy and want to keep some stuff about themselves private. While KYC is designed to prevent money laundering and terrorist financing, some people may feel that it violates their privacy and exposes them to identity theft. Furthermore, some people may be concerned that KYC requirements may lead to the misuse of their personal data by financial institutions or government authorities. They may worry that their information could be hacked, leaked, or sold to third parties without their consent. It certainly wouldn't be the first time this happened.

I don't think the online casinos that are here violate the KYC requirements for their customers if they win big, except: the user did violate some of the casino rules that have been determined, I've read the history of people winning bets at online casinos for $ 80k, they withdraw without any constraints and any reason past KYC.

Does KYC charge users who bet, if so don't bet big, bet as much as you can without crossing the KYC limit, maybe it's better to consider.

I think if one gambles fairly, honestly, without any element of cheating all is well about KYC.

Know Your Customer introduces customers to the shop/business/business and, in this case, the casino. Casinos need to know the background of users who frequently play at their casino and ensure that their users are never involved in crime or do not engage in illegal activities. KYC is also needed to find out the source of customer income and not let casinos be used as a place to launder money from illegal activities.

If the casino asks for verification after a user has won a big win, it may be because the casino noticed a large money transfer and looks suspicious so the casino feels the need to request KYC. It is also possible that later the casino will be asked by the regulator about the results of the report that the casino sent to the regulator why there was a very large transaction at the casino so that the casino can answer it correctly. All possibilities can happen to casinos, so they apply KYC to some of their users. But there are still casinos that don't implement KYC on all of their users and only randomly select all of their users.

although there are also casinos that ask for KYC when we want to withdraw a large enough amount. but when we make a withdrawal with a reasonable amount of the amount set by the casino, then KYC is not needed.
but indeed most of the trusted casinos that I played at did ask for KYC. for gamblers, maybe it's annoying. but for those who are familiar with KYC and platforms such as exchanges and other online casinos, of course, there will be no problem with KYC.

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I saw a thread talking about most mistakes that newbies make that later end up affecting them. Most users just assume that the casino they're using won't request for KYC while some think because their previous casino did not request KYC during, then all other casino should behave that same way.

Casinos are only requesting thief users to complete KYC verification because they want to protect their business from scammers, we all are aware of how scammers use multiple accounts to try to cheat a casino but with kyc they can atleast prevent that from happening.


That's what you most casino say at the beginning to try to lure users into your casino and when it's time to withdraw they'll get stuck there.
I've never been to your thread to see how your casino works but I guess I'll have to drop by there to see if your claim is true. And maybe I'll try it out.

Op  you are not wrong and KYC is one of the best identification to track down the criminal elements in the online casinos platforms. But some casinos over do or over use it. The major argument on ground which some users have said which I have seen. Casinos which are not licensed is using KYC process to defraud gamblers when they win big and that is wrong. Though there are some gamblers who are also making some big mistakes in the beginning so by the time when they win big and when they want to claim their wins, then the casino site system would reject them and ask them to provide the authentic KYC and where they fail to provide then their funds would be seized. And the gambler would be frustrated and come here and create threads for scam accusation.

Those living in the united state are already used to the demand for KYC because almost 80% of casinos are blocked in that region and the only ones operating are strictly regulated compliance with that KYC verification is mandatory.
I don't think handing out my documents for verification is a big deal and so if I trust the casino, I shouldn't have any problem with the safety of my documents from identity thefts.

It's good you understand the importance of KYC requirements, people don't put themselves in others shoes that's why they always believe they are right at every decision they make, sometimes, you need to be in the game to understand the game, I bet if you are a casino owner and you don't want to get in trouble running your casino you will ask for KYC from your customers, it's a normal routine.

Do not generalize and do not judge OP's intention, he has his intrinsic point of view, since the primary idea of cryptographic Casinos is (was) anonymity.

So, the regulations have arrived and the Casinos have to adapt to the regulations, it is not so much because of an "x" deposit, it is because there are vandidos wanting to launder money in cryptographic casinos, and then that affects the good use of KYC, which In the first instance, they should not be such excessive requirements and that is where you should look or know more about the subject, so, not just say; "Put yourself in the shoes of...",  hence that denotes that you have not been in the situation of having to deliver additional documentation.

Then, the KYC is generaly very arbitrary, so much! that it seems that you were requesting a credit from the casino or applying for a Visa.

@KiaKia, this is not an exaggeration, sometimes the requirement levels established in the application stages are not met.
That is, some Casinos (no all), they have documentation requirements that transcend complex requests, when what you want is to withdraw an amount that is not even relatively close to the standard amounts to reach those types of requests.

There are casinos that are really problematic with the type of requirements and sometimes not only that, but those requirements can take days, even weeks depending on the country, consequently skipping the basic procedure of what it really means KYC.

that's okay if you have gambling license. it is understandable if you have the need to implement the kyc to your customers. but doubt the motive if the casino has no license and yet they are asking kyc from the player who just won big.
these casinos with legit license has the need to implement kyc, some are just not strictly implementing it because some of their players are only small time rollers. but if they do exceed their limits, expect that they will start asking kyc.

OP has explained all the main points to justify why casinos have to comply with KYC measures in order to keep their businesses running smoothly.

The system is elaborated in a way you have to follow the rules created by regulators, otherwise you are out of the market, since you can't afford paying fines for a long time without going bankrupt in the middle of the process.

Reality is harsh on us, and although we imagine a perfect hypothetical world where KYC isn't required, it doesn't apply to practice.

For me, i have never had issues with casinos, or even crypto exchanges asking me to verify my account, simply because right from time, i already know the benefit of this process..
There are many reputable casinos that do not wish to bother their customers about KYC verification, but because they have to abide by the law and regulations, they have no choice but to demand KYC verification from their users.

Aside having to pass KYC verification on internet platforms like gambling casinos and crypto trading exchanges, going through KYC verification is something we do in the bank before the bank allows us to have and operate an account with them, it is also what we do before any company takes us in as one of their employee, if we can comfortably give our details to this firms, what difference does it make doing same on the platform where we make money from online?

This is why it's always good a thing to have an indepth understanding and insight about any phenomenon before trying to raise an eyebrow towards it so you don't end up raising a wrong impression about it all. It baffle me to think how most gamblers avoids KYC as this basically is like a modern day tradition among all legitimate gambling sites and casinos not just only for the safety and security of their customer's but for their own sake too not to be a scape to the authority.
I drag foot from gambling with any online gambling site that don't request for verifications from me cause I feel maybe am falling into scammers net and this won't strengthen my resolve to continue using such site for my gambling activities, cause I believe KYC is another way to close the gab between the gamblers and the gambling companies as the gambler can be easily reached in case of any fraudulent attempt on his account.

There’s no wrong actually for KYC if you see it on the positive side, but if you are completely against it, because you viewed it negatively, then you will never really like the idea that online casinos have made it compulsory for all gamblers, maybe not for small winnings, but definitely for huge winnings amount. However, if you come to understand their TOS, you will never question about KYC, and you will expect that they are just following the rules and regulations coming from the regulators. Otherwise, if they won’t stick to it, their casino business will also be fined because of non-compliance.

I think the "Covid effect" where casinos got a bump from many people being bored and staying at home is well and truly over. It's business as usual right now and share prices have declined, so competition is more cutthroat than ever in this industry. That being said, KYC is essential for any decent casino because it will normally mean that they are in a stable jurisdiction which is more likely to protect your money and any winnings that might materialize. You definitely have to be wary of fake casinos seeking to harvest this sort of private information, especially now it's becoming more normalized, people might hand over sensitive documents like passport or driving licence information which can be abused further if it ends up in the wrong hands.

KYC is an ugly and dangerous thing. Any website can be hacked, as has been seen in the past, and the KYC data could be stolen. This data could then be misused.
I can only recommend you to read through this thread from GazetaBitcoin: What happens when your identity is stolen -- real story || Avoid CEXs! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444158.msg61884557#msg61884557)
Then you probably understand why KYC is not good.  ;)

Thanks everyone for polite answers to being against KYC.. i really liked to see ur pov 

KYC is a must for many reasons I am addressing a few reasons:
1. Avoid money laundering
2. Avoid multi-account to prevent abuse of any type of bonus system.
3. Avoid creating an account again after being banned/limited odd or something like that.
4. To take action if there is anything illegal
5. Avoid users from restricted countries to avoid facing any types of legal issues and many more>>>>>>>>>>.....

Some ppl have been traumatized their KYC being sold on the dark market or used by a scammer to cheat. So that case, makes people unwilling to prove their KYC on gambling sites and exchanges. We have to respect that and not force them to do KYC because of trauma. Some people even try to forget it and try to do KYC again, but again, His ID card was found on the black market again. So while the website still can't keep the customer data, then KYC is still becomes a scourge by traumatic people.

While some are just avoiding it just for the sake that they want their identity hidden , they want their personal information as anonymous as possible.

Personally I don't have issues regarding KYC if it's meant to be used for verification and also when I trusted the platforms. Sometimes it could also help you when recovering accounts. There was one time I lost my phone and the only thing that I could recover is my email, on that particular platform, they have their own personal username and personal code. It was a huge hurdle for me to prove myself coz after I lost my phone they would send the OTP or one time password to my mobile number, unfortunately when I tried to "forgot password" it asked me about my personal username and personal code which I even lost along with my phone. Though it's my problem for not having a hardcopy backup, I still managed to get my account because it's verified but it took me 3 days due to several questions like transactions in my account and some questions.

In the end I was grateful that I manage to recover my account and changed my number due to the help of KYC.

KYC has now become a kind of obligation in casinos because casinos can ask their customers to do KYC, moreover we hear that some casinos ask their customers to KYC after they get a big win. I guess we as crypto gamblers, have to deal with it even if we don't like it because casinos will require KYC for all their users over time. And while some 3 web-based casinos say they are KYC free, that also doesn't guarantee they won't ask their users to do KYC due to pressure from regulators.

But I guess some casinos don't ask users to KYC the little gamblers so those who only play for a little money don't have to worry. Maybe we can still enjoy playing gambling with small money without the need to do KYC, although we have to be prepared if we will eventually be asked to do KYC by the casino.

I'm against KYC because it would be naive to think that your personal information isn't being sold. Someone will sell your information. It doesn't matter if a book is credible or not. Almost all the bitcoin books and casinos are regulated by Curacao or Costa Rica. Even though they all have the same licenses, the degree of KYC is different. Some rarely do KYC and others will KYC often.

actually most people that go against KYC when dealing in Online gambling discussion here are mostly not a real gamblers instead those are the accounts that only follow others post and not really a gambler on their own.
because if you truly gamble here and knows the crypto gambling? then you must also understand that for us to withdraw big amount once we got lucky to have? then the issue of KYC will always comes out though there are still casino that does not implement these yet expect this to happen in the coming days or years.

1.Nah, the gambling business was heavily regulated way before the COVID-19 pandemic.

2.Well, some of them are spending a lot, like offline and online casinos, which are located in countries, that have strict gambling regulations.
Most of the small and medium-sized online crypto casinos simply have a Quracao license and also they probably have offshore hosting, so they "can fly under the radar" of the regulators.

3.What kind of fraudsters are you talking about? People, who want to exploit weaknesses of the online casinos, or money launderers?
The first ones can be stopped without KYC and AML. I can tell you that the online casinos don't want money launderers, because the launderers don't want to spend money on the casino, they just want to launder some money and run away, leaving the casino with potential negative consequences, when the authorities find out about this.

If the casino is regulated by the Government, they need to comply for the KYC procedure and AML. It has a purpose and the casino is not asking their customers to abide on KYC for nothing. It's understandable that many gamblers don't like the idea of disclosing their identity because they want to keep playing anonymously. However the KYC is becoming common nowadays especially if you're using a centralized platform, expect them to ask you sooner or later.

As pointed out by many, you always have an option to play on a casino with KYC or look for other platform who don't require their players to abide on it. Because we have a choice and it depends on us on where we are comfortable to gamble without worries.

Some won't KYC as long as each transaction is under 5000 NAf. That was the rule at one time so it may have changed. They will set their own weekly or daily limit. Some books may KYC for a withdrawal of $50 USD. The laws in Costa Rica are different than those in Curacao. Each book seems to do it differently. Depending on the amount, some may even ask for source of funds. Then there are casinos asking for KYC to come up with a reason not to pay.

You don't need to be mad at those who don't like subscribing to KYC enabled casinos, they have there own reasons too. Such reasons are not far from the nature of cryptocurrency against fiat which is decentralization and that in itself suppose to mean from of interference through blockchain. The liberty that cryptocurrency is suppose to guarantee is interferred by KYC. Cryptocurrency takes out third party involvement in all levels guaranting freedom and secrecy of hodling and identity. These are major reason for those people and introducing of blockchain is defeated using KYC. This means the casino using KYC are regulated in the jurisdiction that they are operating either by gambling laws by the government.

KYC Verification have it's Pros and cons....

Yes, it is a nice tool to reduce money laundering, but it cannot prevent it. There are enough poor people out there, that can be paid to do the money laundering for the cartels. (They go through the process with their valid documents and the drug cartels pay them a small percentage of the money that they push through these casinos)

The bad thing is...... KYC Verification are also used by criminals to gather personal information. Those so-called "hacks" of personal data... might just be criminal cartels gathering personal information to use in other criminal activities.  ::)

Don't make it complicated, if you don't comfortable to submit KYC, just play at no KYC casino. If you're fine with KYC, then you can gamble in every casino do you want.

You can know which casino have no KYC rule or have KYC rule in this thread Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0)

Discussing about KYC matter will never end, in the end any user willing to submit KYC when they win big amount money.

I too do not like KYC either. But if it is about gambling account, I am not that concerned about KYC because I am only using small amount of money to gamble, I have nothing to be concerned about that for.

The reason I am concerned of KYC is about fake gambling sites, they can collect your information and use it against you later. Also that even legit sites can sell your KYC to third-party which are the reasons I do not like KYC.

I know how to stay away from fake gambling sites, but what about the legit sites that sells your KYC.

But what I use small amount of money for, I do not think I should feel insecure for because of it.

What people concerned about it is their identity can be used for other illegal things and that is valid worries to them since this could happen if they entrust their details to not reputable platform. So to avoid such issues pick always the best platform so that we can get less worries about getting any possible troubles which can give it to us. There are lot of trusted casino here and there's no problem sending it to them because for sure they are also complying with authorities require this to them.

Instead of bothering to play at casinos that will later ask us to do KYC, we can choose other casinos. We don't need to force ourselves to keep playing gambling at one casino. Moreover, we have many trusted crypto casinos that we can choose from and even make our favorite casino to play gambling. It only takes a short search to find those trusted casinos that won't complicate us with KYC.

And we also have to be prepared if every crypto casino finally has to ask its users to do KYC. I feel that the time will come for crypto casino users someday. So if you are not ready for that, it's better not to gamble.

KYC is normal in a licensed casino, as long as the reputation of the casino is high and trustworthy, I don't think it's a big matter. If you're fine to submit KYC on a centralized exchange, why you're afraid of submitting KYC on a casino? when both of them already proven if they've handle a lot gamblers, money and their brands are visible on many sports.

Hi _act_, I have been thinking about this KYC issue myself, we are so concerned about our security and what those who ask for the KYC can use our Infomation for, behind our back, but I have not, for once, seen where by KYC got anyone into trouble.

It's been over 10 years that I have been using the internet, I have never for once seen or read news about how some criminals use living people's identities to buy drugs or do evil things, if you have, do drop me a link or guide me to the source.

We are too concerned about identity, it is normal, I understand that, but even in the crypto space, we pass exchange KYC tests to trade on them, I don't see how other people's kYC can be useful for them, not a single one has been proven right.

Of course, online casinos are required to enter KYC in order to obtain a license and comply with the laws of the host territory, but this does not mean that the presence of KYC protects the user from fraud by the casino itself. This is a two-way road and here, in any case, you need to conduct research on trust in this or that online casino, not trusting just the presence of KYC.

I'm not one of these few people and I always question casinos that claimed to not ask for KYC because they will be abused and used by money launderers making them the target of authorities, KYC is part of of the terms we agreed when we sign up to a reputable and compliant casino.
I don't have anything against KYC and agreed with all your points but I will only do this to reputable casinos like Stake, our information is safe on legit casinos but could mess up our lives if end up with a scam casino.

To get the best out of any regulated and licensed casino you have to hand out your document for verification and also be ready to abide by the rules and conditions of the casino.

-the fact that not maby gamblers like kyc due to the risk associated woth KYC which can range from identity theft, and lick to the government.

-But then we must come to terms with the reality on the ground, and this has changed the way things are viewed because bitcoin/cryptocurrency offers such a chance to be decentralized and privacy conscious.

Every time there's a new casino announcement here I always check the TOS and one of the concerns is how they address and implement KYC, this is important because authorities set the guidelines on how casinos should be compliant and safe from bad actors, like money launderers and cheaters.
No KYC casinos are questionable they should have good answers on how they address compliance and abuse, like all of us here our information is very important and we like to submit to reputable and fully compliant casinos.

The most ironic thing about KYC in the cryptocurrency gambling industry is that even casinos that are exclusive to cryptocurrency and have a license in a place like Curacao still shakedown players. You would think that a license in a place like Curacao and being exclusive to cryptocurrency would mean more lenience for players? Unfortunately not. I believe that casinos fitting into this box would use KYC as a means for making additional profit and preventing payments more than its intended purpose.

Ok visit our site and let me know, we the founders are anti KYC we are never going to ask for it

I personally don't really know much on how casino licenses work when it comes to where or which jurisdiction the license was gotten from, but based on your comment, I want to believe that Curaçao license implies that such casino is not regulated by the authorities?

Because as far as I know, one of the major reasons why casinos request for kyc is because it is one of the requirements from regulators, and any casino that fail to comply with this could easily be shut down.
But then again, you are right about some dubious casinos using kyc as a way to profit more, which to me is not surprising, every industry have some bad eggs in it.

I am not an expert on KYC, but from what I read in some casino terms and conditions is that KYC is many cases linked to hard cap. So the casino won't ask any detailed information from you when signing up, depositing money and withdrawing small amounts. KYC only comes into place when withdrawing fund bigger than 1,000-2,500 USD. On all the casinos where I play these numbers are made public and any gambler can read up on them. It's not some arbitrage numbers the casino uses to try and cheat us out I'd our winnings. Before playing with real money we should always read up all the necessary information. It's sad that you lost money because of it and if the casino changed their terms after you won money it's wrong and should be challenged. Over the years I kind of accepted KYC as it's becoming the industry norm.

The license is the permission to operate. If you research about curacao licenses, you will quickly find out that the process of acquiring one is about money and not much else. As for the regulation there, there is not much I believe. In other words, I do not believe that if a casino had a curacao license and did not ask for KYC, that curacao regulators would be quick to complain. Complaints (if any) would probably come from other countries for people they are interested in who are using the casino. I am not too sure about it officially, all I am quite sure of is that KYC is used much more excessively than it needs to be based on a lot of stories I have read here and elsewhere.

You're right : reading the terms and conditions is very important for the user, it's in his own interest,  it allows him to be credible and in an intelligent position if a problem arises, and he has to dispute something.

For the first part of your message, it depends on the country and the market. If the casino in question is licensed in a regulated country, KYC may be required for every type of FIAT transaction, regardless of the amount.
Take France as example, where even a 0.01 EUR deposit will require KYC if the casino is licensed and under the French national gambling authority regulation.

In general, the casinos have three main criterias that are taken into consideration for the need/or not of KYC:
-Your current geographical location (your IP)
-The market in which you are registered (.com is licensed by Malta most of the time, .fr , .de , .jp etc..)
-The regulator in question: even taking the European Union as an example, the documents required are not the same for a Belgian citizen, for a German one etc. Some countries require POA+ID+Age verification, others only AGE+ID, others nothing at all because they use a centralized national number associated to the social security number etc..

Some countries are less stringent than others

There's nothing like pretence for KYC or not, if a casino is a KYC casino they will definitely requires going through the process from you and that they don't ask for it now doesn't mean they won't do so later which could have been when you needed something most to do with your account, there are casinos without KYC requirements and they were known for that, all you need to do is to have a good search on what you so desire till you finds one.

Well, you are right about this, this is something I've and many other users have complained about several times on this forum, but then, which casinos hears and cares?

Like I said in one of my comments yesterday, there are several casinos that are abusing the privilege they have in asking users to pass a kyc verification, like you, I've heard and read stories, where users sign up on a casino, proceed to deposit money with out any problem, after gambling for a while, and maybe winning some good amount of money, the same user tries to withdraw, only then, they discover they have been blocked without any reason, and when the user tries to reach out to the customers support, he or she will be asked to submit kyc documents, this is after several days of waiting for a reply from them.
Things like this ought not to be, but the be because the government aren't doing much in the area of monitoring this online casino to make sure they play by the rules.

Some KYC analysis and validation providers can take up to 3 weeks to process one. This happens, for example Idnow which is the Binance provider for some European countries is known to be extremely slow during high volume times (for example when some websites launches welcome bonuses and promotion and there are a lot of newcomers which are doing KYC in the same moment)

Regarding accounts that get blocked inappropriately, in general, as mentioned above, it is because the player has exceeded the maximum thresholds for withdrawing funds without being checked.

99% of this is written in the terms of use and the players just haven't read them

I support what you said, it's pretty real talk actually. If I think about it, it seems like it's okay to give kyc as long as the casino is operating legally in this industry.

    Because if a casino doesn't really require kyc from the gambler and then suddenly requires kyc because you're withdrawing a large amount, the casino like this is really a bit suspicious, because the chances are high that this style of casino is operating illegally, in my opinion just a guess.

I don't see why you think OP is trying to make anything complicated. What he posted are good points that people usually don't get, and it is great coming from him as he was one of those people who basically don't like KYC while not understanding that KYC is mandatory for a lot of reasons. You can read the reasons in the OP, and if you already read them, you shouldn't think that he is complicating things.

I also don't quite understand why some people don't see the actual reasons behind casinos asking for KYC verification from them. All they think of is their identity and privacy being disturbed but they don't really get it that KYC is mandatory for using the services provided.

This rule was the same to what I see on a crypto exchange but I like this better so that we small gamblers won't have to worry on it anymore. Besides we are only playing with small amount of money. We are less important compared to those who play big and almost those who launder money always deal with huge amounts. It will be hassle than if they deposit partially and there is a chance that they will be caught.

Many of us are familiar already with the KYC and some of us already did that on some exchanges that we are using but they are still annoyed when they heard that KYC is also being asked here in gambling. As much as possible they avoid gambling sites that asks it.

Sharing the documents to the user make us to believe on the website.As all of us know most of the gambling sites are fake and scam one.So it’s essentially to approach the gamblers with the transparency platform.It only help the good casino to prove their Legitimacy to the users.When the users increased to big number,the website surely earn good money from it.Secondly kyc plays huge role,some trusted gambling also doesn’t include the kyc for the users convenience.Some gambling hold the winner by asking to verify kyc at the time of withdrawal.

Regardless of how much we dislike KYC in gambling sites, especially crypto-gambling sites, that's their business, therefore their own rules. There's no Science here that we really need to technically know why these gambling sites do have related terms about KYC.

Simply, let's not make it too technical. We, as users need to do the adjustment. If in some cases our favorite and preferred gambling site, especially a crypto-gambling platform, mandate a KYC, either; you will comply with it or just stop using them and find another gambling site that will meet our criteria.

I'd rather be more concerned about how to win big instead of the issue of complying with KYC to be able to claim it lol. As long as a reputable site is concerned, I'm sure they won't likely do some shitty act to avoid rewarding the users with their big winning withdrawals.

Even with the prosecution from government on casinos do not mean that KYC is safe for us. The government are only interested in stressing us and trying to know our identities that is why they will not mind doing the necessary to make sure that casinos bow to there pressure. Everyone has there own opinion on whether they will prefer a KYC casino or no KYC casinos where there identities would be preserved.

I have asked this same question. Best answer i got was that sites get hacked and data stolen. Passports and IDs are worth a lot in black market and you really don't want to get your identity stolen. It's time consuming and a difficult road to combat against identity theft.

This all could be avoided with some kind of zero knowledge based identity check where you don't need to provide documents but just prove that you are who you say you are. Sadly that tech isn't really available yet. But it's coming soon for sure.

exactly what acquiring knowledge should do, change your mindset for the better and give you advanced information about something, I love the fact that you've see the need for kyc.

We know that most gambling platforms nowadays are really that licensed or something we do called being regulated which means that they are abiding on laws and regulations been set out by the government
except to those who dont have licensed but we know that it would be more recommendable on trusting up services or places which are licensed which do somehow adds up the security but we know that it does have those lapses and risks which we arent that blind.

Most of them doesnt ask out KYc on the time you do make out some register but on the time you do make out some huge win then this is the time they would be asking
about it.They why such?

has anyone here ever heard that the government of curacao has decided to carry out inspections in all the casinos that they have granted licenses to?

has anyone here already reported a casino in curacao and the government of curacao ever took any action against the casino? Has anyone seen this happen?

so by that I mean that many casinos even exaggerate in forcing all customers to make KYC at the time of withdrawal, they allow the customer to make a deposit, play, lose, but if he wins at the time of withdrawal, the casino asks for KYC, so I even I ask: did the curacao really tell them to do it like this? I think not. many casinos are taking advantage of KYC to commit abuse against customers, and it is new casinos that have been doing this, casinos with less than 2 years are doing this type of thing

I understand that casinos need to comply with the laws, and use KYC, but they need to be moderate and have common sense, a person who makes a deposit of 50$, loses 48$ and wants to withdraw 2$, will this really be Is such a person laundering money to be asked for KYC? with 2$ are you doing money laundering? can the 2$ left after losing 48$ be seen as a suspicious account that needs KYC? there are things that honestly are very exaggerated and meaningless. scammers, steal millions of dollars, they are not stupid to go launder money in a casino when they can use mixer service

It's always good to conduct research before getting to a conclusion to avoid misunderstanding and finding yourself in a bad and embarrassing position. This is especially happening in the scam accusation section here in Bitcointalk where many newbies open daily topics where they accuse legitimate casinos of scamming and it’s simply because they were asked to pass the KYC process. They attack the casino without even completing the required step and only understand the situation after the casino provides an explanation.

Well as an alternative for those who prefer to remain anonymous, Dapp casinos are an option that doesn't require registration or passing the KYC step and we see new growing casinos every day.

If we have complaints regarding KYC, then don't comply with that. We are not forced in the first place to use the said gambling site. We can't force our own sentiments on gambling sites since these gambling companies are just following all terms to make their business legit. Since one of the requirements of being a legit gambling site is to comply with terms under AML or related to money laundering, KYC will really include on their terms,

For now, let's just be happy that some crypto-gambling sites are not forcing their users to comply with KYC. Let's enjoy that advantage for now as I don't even see that KYC will be quickly forced overnight and a must necessary requirement in crypto-gambling sites.

Lost of reputable and famous crypto-gambling sites around which we can enjoy gambling without KYC for now. Sticking with those is the best thing to do.

indeed mate, but what I try to say is that some casino may not implement KYC while we are playing (winning/Losing) small amount but once we hit the jackpot or some amount near to that? then this KYC thing comes and we have no choice but to comply.
in that sense I wanted people to be ready or never play in online casino to prevent this KYC obligation .

As I commented the other day in a thread in the Meta section, this does not only happen with cryptocurrency casinos. It also happens for example with the lottery website in Spain, which is a public entity owned by the Spanish state. You can deposit and bet small amounts, but after a certain limit you have to pass the full KYC, even though you deposit with a bank card, with your name.

So people should not be so surprised, and above all they should read the ToS before depositing and betting.

The basic thing is that if you have to gamble more than a specific limitation, you must pass the KYC. If I own a casino site myself, I have to know about some of the gamblers who play large with the large amount. Otherwise I will not get rid of any legal complications. Must do this for my self and for my company. However, if anyone conducts their gaming within the specified range, no one will have any problem with the KYC. If this site does not provide any restriction.

Asking for KYC was something optional in past but since online gambling businesses flourished in covid era it became a literal norm. People can't get used to changing laws in the world. You can compare crypto's ico era and now a a proof. Its too hard to be fraud and not get accused now. I also thought kyc is bad thing in past. But if i lose some portion of money as a result of some mistake in website, kyc can actually help me. I learned this.

experience is the best teacher mate so OP had just to learn it the hard way but the essence of learning still lives on it so let us not fall from that same mistake so there will be no one to suffer like what op did.
gambling is about to lose if we are not knowledgeable mate, kyc or other policies may apply .

in the end now gamblers have to get used to casinos asking for KYC when needed such as big wins, and gamblers also have to be prepared with all the risks.
at first I also didn't agree with the KYC method for withdrawing large amounts at casinos, but after I got used to it I inevitably had to comply with these conditions. and if it has to be done at a popular and reputable casino, that's fine with me. but if it happens to a new casino and don't have any trust yet, I hesitate to do that. because sometimes at casinos that don't know KYC it will only make excuses not to pay customers who win big but customers have been at a loss because they sent KYC personal data but in vain can't withdraw the winnings.

OP didn't suffer anything, he just told me about his experience, now he knows why big casinos here ask for KYC and OP shares it here so that we all know what actually happens to KYC in big casinos in this forum.

experience is very important not only in real life but in gambling it also requires experience to bet carefully with responsibility and from experience we can know the opportunities to bet last a long time in gambling.

This should be people's choice, some people just like privacy and they do not want to lose it. I do not care about KYC on gambling sites too, but some people have huge amount of money and some people just want to remain anonymous.

Even providing KYC can be an indirect ways for someone to be scammed if the KYC is sold to another party and be used for indirect phishing attack which inexperienced users can fall into. There is nothing impossible.

For me, I don't like online Gambling platform. I used to feel like its being programmed to make you later lose your funds. For the KYC parts, some platform steals KYC and even delete user account after that. So, its dangerous in both part. With this my little understanding, I stay away from gambling generally

The list you have made actually makes sense which why casinos ask for KYC despite many players are against it. Most casinos are regulated by the government, therefore, they have to abide the rules set for them in order to operate which sometimes include verification of their customers. Additionally, they are also filtering the people using their platforms as an escapegoat to launder money. Thus, monitoring the transactions of each is needed.

However, some people are unaware and oblivious of these reasons which is why they loathe KYC. Some knew, but does not like it still. And I can't blame them though since it's still matter of preference.

We need to agreed with the first rule of the gambling websites by agree to submit your kyc.Because they can use the kyc for anything,we don’t know the kyc was used in the right manner.So if you are not okay to share your kyc for the game,you should avoid it at the foremost time.Because people with less knowledge will share their kyc without knowing the negative impact of the thing.It doesn’t mean all the websites using your kyc for the mal practice,but some was involved in such things.It’s not feeling hesitation to use on trusted gambling site of your kyc.

Not entirely correct, most of casinos are licensed and have mandatory KYC rule in their terms, but there are few casinos which is free from KYC and they will never ask your KYC, otherwise the site turn become scam. Freebitco.in is the example where it will never ask your KYC, you can check on their terms and you will not find any rule about KYC. Unlike other casinos when they see there's an account has suspicious activity or broke their terms, they will ask KYC. But in Freebitco, they will directly terminate your account.

It's great if you can stay away from gambling after a bad experience. But I guess some online crypto casinos still don't do as bad things as you have experienced. And it depends on how you can find and get those online crypto casinos.

But if you feel that all gambling platforms will steal your KYC and even delete user accounts, then you don't need to approach gambling and you are already doing good for that. But so far, I think many people still play gambling at online crypto casinos and their accounts are still safe. And it's up to each person.

Reading the terms and conditions is very important but sometimes it might not be stated there just like she platforms that always keep updating there terms. The best is to stick to a non KYC casinos since it is becoming a normal for  some casinos to keep asking for verification when we make big winnings or when we want to  make withdrawals.

I like sticking to a well known casino so that if I have a problem I can quickly get a reply from there team or come here and complain. Asking questions and doing research is another way we can escape the stress of doing a compulsory verification.

I like KYC if it involves my money they will gonna hold but totally unlike it if it's too random without prior notice that they'll asked it on you, more so when they press it. The thing is, the government is the true sucker in the first place they're the one pressing it against on players. At certain point, it sure to exists and more and more will follow the KYC rule in the future.

I personally cannot and will not blame those people who are in doubt and worried of KYC procedures because they have their own reason; protecting their identity. Their reason is valid in the first place since one's personal infos could be used in a bad way especially if hackers would be able to access the system of a gambling platform or the platform itself has the intention to do so. But as OP have mentioned, this procedure has its purpose. The only thing that could lessen your worries is to engage only with platforms having good reputation in this industry because they won't be in such position for nothing, unlike with engaging to any platform without caution. KYC could limit minors and easily withrawing your funds, which are aspects I consider of it.

Yeah, even there are few casinos aren't asking user KYC since they don't have any rule about KYC in their terms, I wouldn't surprised sooner or later they will be forced to have a license and obviously will follow the regulations. This might happen on old and reputable no KYC casino, a small casino will not be a target by the government since the money involved on the site isn't that big.

Thank God someone understands it. How I wish all those who try to enter the gambling platform do think as you do.

There's always a reason why businesses would go far on becoming strict about their rules.
First, how can they serve us better if we just keep on complaining about a mere KYC?
Second, it's to save their business which means we don't have to go far at looking for other online casinos which could lead us to be scammed by a non-reputable one.
Lastly, it's avoiding being a target of those crocodiles who "enforce the law". It saves both parties the trouble of going thru every players just so they could prove they are not doing any illegal activities.

A good share OP. Thanks.

Some people prefer anonymity over safety and security for their own personal reasons. I have seen the importance of KYC for years and have used to complying with the requirements to pass it. There are casinos that won't ask you for KYC upon registration but will require you to submit during the withdrawal process because they are trying to avoid money laundering acts which could possibly affect the whole casino business but don't want to upset their players at the beginning which I think casinos must correct. If they will be implementing KYCs, they should make their players aware of it right from the start. I hope more people would see the importance of KYC because as long as we are on a trusted site, our identities are safe.

KYC is important to every casino, I think the reason why most people do not of privacy and the hassle that is involved in it. However, it is the standard operating practice of the to comply regulations. Although they say one of the purposes is to prevent fraud, money laundering etc, I do not think that this is 100% effective because how do some online casinos that do not require KYC operates. Anyways it is vital that before signing up on any casino and funding your wallet, read the terms and conditions.

You make a good point about casinos likely asking you for Know Your Customer information if you ever get a big win. This is I’m sure for regulatory purposes, but I’m also sure that lots of people pick certain casinos for their lack of KYC on new accounts. This is why you see so many people complaining about not getting their winnings here. Suddenly when big money is involved casinos care a lot about who you are.

Yes, that's how it goes. It seems to me that after some time, the regulators will be more closely involved in this issue and KYC will have to pass all the gamblers of gambling establishments and sites that have entered or want to withdraw $10,000.

I don't think KYC helps much in the fight against money laundering, because almost every adult knows other working money laundering schemes.

It only makes sense for good casinos to implement KYC upon registration, I share sentiments with people who have qualms with sites that only prompt KYC upon withdrawal when deposits are allowed to go in without problem. But KYC in general is necessary not only for the casino, but for you as well. It's your first and main line of defense against identity thieves and hackers. Given the fact that most of these sites that implement KYC have parameters in place that allows them to determine who is in the account in that particular time.

Just like what most people have already stated and pointed out, the implementation of KYC in a casino is almost always a good sign that the site is reputable and trustworthy. Not only for the casino as they could avoid regulatory penalties and all that shenanigans, but also due to the fact that it provides immense protection against scammers and hackers that needless to say, are left and right in the gambling industry. KYC is something that I personally look for in a casino, besides good customer services and all that important user benefits. Because I know for sure that if a site has KYC set in it I could rest assure that only I will be able to access my account and any attempts made by other people will be notified to me and will be dealt with immediately.

Not all the time since issues and complaints could really be raised and emphasized out in regarding this matter but its true that when it comes to security then you could somewhat assure yourself that
there's something you could really be able to point out fingers if there are some issues that might happen generally specially on the platform. This is why on the time you do encounter in between
 a platform which is really that regulated or licensed  or not then it would really be your choice on where you would be tending to deal with.
Most people do say about sticking with the reputable or known ones would be the best move to be done.

In this case what you are doing by research is not wrong and indeed that is a definite thing because of course the site also avoids things that are detrimental to them in terms of rules and regulations. Actually in this condition it is not wrong because they are also doing business and it is clear that if their business wants to be legalized then they must also comply with the rules of the authorities and one of them is KYC. but on the other hand we as gamblers of course have our own rules, and of course there are those who follow them and some who don't in terms of KYC. it's also not wrong in my opinion because it is a choice that we make. as long as we are not burdened with it then do it but if you feel burdened what are you forced to do.

I have no issue with KYC it's necessary, especially on platforms like casinos where the authorities already confirmed being targeted for money laundering, for online casinos not to be suspected of money laundering they have to implement this, and they also have to check the status of their players because this is online where the platform cannot see their players and just assume that these are adults playing.
They don't want to see children playing on their platform so they have to check the age status and background of players if they deposit and won big amounts.
Part of their compliance with their license issuer is the KYC to make sure that their targeted audiences in specific regions are the ones playing.

I don't think so with the small casinos, the government just want to regulate it all, it looks like they don't want anyone to slip through on them. I think it's best to stick with the old, huge, regulatory-friendly, and reputed casinos these days just to know that you're in the right place and wouldn't make some huge problem when the time comes regulations become so strict.

main points of those against it is:
- privacy is a basic right
- KYC is costly and doesn't solve a lot of problems
- you shouldn't punish 99.9% because of 0.1% of bad actors (even if this punishment is only with time and bureaucracy)

those who are for it usually think it solves something and that it's important to combat money laundering or whataver

in practice what happens is that KYC requirements won't stop people of committing crimes, will just create a parallel market for documents and identities.

Usually it is like that as what you've said, they'll hold your money when it's quite big as you try to withdraw. It's understandable if that's the case. There are casinos that do ask it randomly and that's truly hectic but no longer suprising.

While some users, they do something suspicious that just deposits on a casino and then try to withdraw all of their funds. Well, the casino will detect it thinking that they're just there to launder those assets they've deposited so, if ever they've been ask for it, they shouldn't be surprised.

My main issue is identity theft when the company that got my KYC ends up being hacked and my identity details stolen. That's actually a real possibility these days.

I understand if KYC is included in the ToS of casinos. For one, they are not totally free to implement whatever they like. They are operating under certain regulations and KYC is now being required from many government regulators.

What I don't like about KYC implementation is when it is made compulsory. That is not necessary. Another reason is that when it is seemingly being used to prevent winners from getting their prizes. KYC could be weaponized so that casinos would not pay up anymore.

Exactly, the gambler that is just betting a few dollars here and there does not really need to pass KYC or any other similar process, let them make their small bets, it is obvious they are not really serious about gambling and for them it is just an occasional hobby, besides even if casinos tried to force those people to go through KYC those people will think about it and come to the conclusion it is not worth for them to go through that process and simply change casinos instead of sending their documents.

And that's why casinos also can't do anything when the regulator asks them to follow the rules of the regulator. We really don't like implementing KYC on crypto gamblers but we can only comply with KYC regulations and casinos do so because of pressure from the regulators.

We as small gamblers, may only be able to follow the rules of the casino, but we can still look for other casinos that don't strictly implement KYC. But if the casinos end up asking the winners for KYC only to prevent them from getting their prizes, we can move on to other less strict casinos about KYC.

For sure, those big casinos follow this. Thanks for the information, as I was not aware of this. I am also one of those who doesn't like KYC, but I still do it because I don't have a choice since those casinos that are not regulated, let's say illegal, do not have KYC, which we like, but if we win big, that is now the problem. Let's do KYC only on those big platforms to make our data safe, and we can still continue playing, so we don't have problems when we win big.

If you're asking as a potential owner and asking if you need to implement a KYC policy for your players, it depends. If you are a big casino and have a license you have to follow KYC policies which have to be enforced due to regulations like Bitcasino and Stake as examples.
I also don't like KYC because it involves identity and I'm worried that unwanted things will happen like being abused, but there is no option to follow it especially when withdrawing large amounts even if it's just a dream.

If I were a casino owner, maybe I would not apply KYC to the small gamblers who have routinely deposited money to gamble at my casino. I might be able to implement KYC for my members who deposit big money to play gambling, especially for those who have just joined my casino. That's because I want to know their background and don't want to get into trouble in the future, especially if I later find out that their source of funds is from illegal activities.

And I think those gamblers already know the consequences of using big money to gamble, although some new members will complain about why they need to do KYC. We can explain the situation to them so they don't misunderstand because we as casino owners and managers, are only trying to comply with the regulations of the regulator.

Basically, all happen like this, if these are random bets for a small amount, then no one will pass the kyc, even if there is a small amount on the balance, and it will not be available for withdrawal, due to the passage of the kyc, then most likely the player will simply leave this money , or will try to increase them so that the amount becomes significant, but in this case there will be more chances to lose than to increase. )

Most times I see no reason or anything wrong with online casinos asking for KYC and I also don't see any reason why someone with a clear conscience should be bothered over doing KYC online especially with reputable casinos and companies. I read all your proposals and I'm glad you were able to change your mindset towards KYC especially from reputable casinos because by so doing, you're helping them reduce the load for them and as well making things easier for yourself too.
Kyc is actually needed to help fight money laundering and other criminal activities through their platforms and it also help the casino regulatory bodies to help gamblers in times of difficulties.
Casinos don't actually pretend not to ask for KYC but they're trying to balance their business with the regulatory bodies and the demands from the gamblers, hence the KYC only happens at a trigger point and if most gamblers read through the terms and conditions then they would have seen this but I guess they don't take out time to read it.

Many have prevented others to not do KYC when you are asked by exchanges and any other platform on the internet because it can compromise your personal life once it falls to someone who knows exactly how they will use your personal info for their evil plans. Because there are already lots of incidences where their info had been leaked and sold and when that happens, you are a few months away from seeing the FBI outside your door. It's fine that we haven't done anything and the hard part is to prove to them that we were guilty and that alone will consume so much time that you have wished for yourself not to submit that KYC in the first place.

It's good to hear that you've taken the time to research the reasons behind KYC verification requirements for online casinos. I believe KYC verification helps online casinos ensure that their players are who they say they are and that they are of legal age to gamble. In easy words, it's mandatory to provide the player's credibility. In addition, it's necessary to ensure the safety and security of online casinos and their players.

While I fully agree with this who guarantee us that our data,valid data is not misused by the KYC department of the casino,some disgruntled employee there may do enormous damage if they have access to our data.I know that most companies have DLP-Data Loss Prevention systems in use which does not let such information going out through email or USB devices but we cannot be sure that each casino uses such norms that are standards in the cyber security world.I personally have given my ID as I am verified at the casino where I play as I believe in such casino to have high standards when coming to our user data.KYC is beneficial to us if something bad happen to our account and only us people with valid data can solve these problems,so in this point of context KYC is beneficial and that is why I did it.

Most crypto casinos do not push for KYC but they can ask for KYC anytime. And it is better to do in all casinos that have made KYC mandatory in their terms and conditions. In some cases you may face various problems with KYC after winning big. KYC verification is very necessary to maintain continuous gambling. If corruption is not rampant then there is no possibility of any problem with KYC submission. But there may be some people who always wants to conduct gambling by hiding themself.

No, they do not ask people KYC verification to prevent underage gambling, because that person can simply buy a phone for their kids to use under the parents name and casinos will not know about it. (Most burner phones cannot even be linked to the owner and fake identification can be obtained very easily)

They are forced under regulatory requirements to ask for KYC verification to monitor the flow of money. This helps law enforcement to trace money laundering and other financial crimes and the government via Banks can also trace the income of their citizens for tax purposes.  ::) ::) ::)

Agree. Casinos do KYC to verify that their clients are existing people and are not just faking their identities to suit their interests such as to launder money or to use other identity just to gamble. KYC can also predict young people lurking around the casino website which they shouldn't be a part of in the first place to secure their mental well being and future.

KYC can help casinos monitor the people making transactions in their account and if ever there's something unusual they are seeing, they can easily tap on that person to give a notice and let them pass specific requirements to verify and comply. This is also needed because casinos are being regulated by the country officials to be able to fully operate without conditions, hence they must abide for the good of everyone.

I do agree that KYC is needed indeed if involves a large sum amount of money but also on our end, we have to see to it that we are patronizing/using reputable online casinos so as to not compromise our identity before giving it to them.

One thing though, casinos will only require your KYC if you win big so bet only an amount that if you win will not warrant your KYC.

this probably happens a lot too since most of the KYC companies that does verification are quite shady
some claim that they delete the data but this isn't really verifiable

but on the other hand, there aren't so many cases of identity theft ?I've heard about, is it such a huge problem?

That is basically my own way of thinking, OP.

While I am not a fan of KYC or anything which endangers you to identity theft, I would say that KYC implementation is not something that casinos can decide for themselves. They are basically forced to implement it, by the government.

Furthermore, I think the main reason why they demand KYC on large withdrawals is because its easier and more time-saving than demanding it from every single new user. They have to manually check the KYC documents and they have so many users, it would be very hard for them to check everyone.

We need to invent an alternative to KYC which does not endanger our government-issued documents from being stolen. Identity thieves can do enormous damage to your finances and your reputation.

Well, the scam casinos can keep on rejecting your KYC in case you win big however if you are playing at a reputable casino, once you win big the casino can ask for KYC and upon successful KYC, you can withdraw your funds. For me, it this clause is listed in the terms and conditions, I will prefer to do KYC beforehand and will not wait unless I big win and demanded by the casino to do the KYC.


Think in a way that you do KYC at a site, they will get all your personal data and a scanned copy of your ID card, passport or any government-issued card and later that site sell you details on the dark web. Scary isn't it?

I was also hesitant to submit my personal details just to pass the KYC process before but when I was left with no choice, I complied with it. So far, I haven't experienced identity theft. I think the reputation of the casino has a big edge. I haven't heard of identity theft cases from the people I know who complied with KYC. Of course, casinos are also being careful with their user's details because possible glitches will surely affect their reputation.

It's important to watch the gambling site that you are playing carefully about the changes that they are making but I think they will announce it early if they are that fair and professional enough because they know that many people are not in favor of KYC but if they know that this will affect their business, why will they ever get a license if it was still possible to continue their operations and still become reputable even without it? Unless of course if it was already mandated by the government. They will do it than if the business that they have built are going to be shut down immediately. That is something that is more painful than getting less customers.

Any gambler is suppose to be aware of KYC or rather expect it. Besides it is for the gamblers good as it helps to dictate scammer and anti money laundrers. And also to identify and verify their customers, understanding the nature and purpose of customers relations and any suspicions transactions will be dictated easily.
If there is no KYCrequirement, or any form verifications, many people will not be interested in gambling site because many people must have been scammed and left the site and give the site a bad name that will discourage many others.
I think there is need for KYC.

Exactly. at this point with even the most remote of casinos asking for a little verification from the customer's part, everyone should already expect that KYC is here to stay and will soon be a universal staple in the casino industry. The indispensable security it provides added with the anti-laundering and scam-deterrent features it provides to you and the casino just warrants it to be added in every cryptocurrency casino in the future. As a matter of fact, I would argue that you should be worried about the casino you're playing with in the future if they don't ask you for KYC at some point during registration or during withdrawal, that's a sign that the casino you're playing on may not be so trustworthy as you might think!

In todays years on which it is really that becoming a standard that most platforms would really potentially ask out some KYC or verification on the time that you had done something or do really looks

suspicious on which its not really that shocking anymore considering that most of these platforms are licensed and regulated.If you havent done something wrong then i dont really see this as an issue.
There are really just those people who are really that allergic when it comes to kyc which i couldnt blame of but we know that we arent been asked on the time we do register
which it is really still that good to deal up with them for now.