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Title: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 22, 2023, 09:59:06 AM What happened:
Megapari (they are same scam as its brothers 1xbit, 22bet, etc) kept and stole my money. They are real thieves First, they kept a deposit of 150usdt that I had to claim so that they would transfer it to my account several times. After 3 bets, the odds were automatically lowered and they put a limit of 1€ for no reason to every bet I wanted to make. After that I tried to withdraw and it has been a real hell, asking for insane surreal proofs. I have even had problems after sending everything that has been requested. Finally, they told me that they only let me withdraw what I deposited, but not the winnings from the bets. But even that is a lie! They have only let me withdraw half of what I deposited with them and when I contact them by email they only put this message all the time: "Dear user, all consulting on the matter of your request was provided earlier in this mail thread" If you do not want to be robbed, please fly from this house of scammers, thieves and scammers. I have proof of everything. I deposited 250usdt, and the only allowed me to withdraw 148usdt. Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile%3Bu%3D3508147&fbclid=IwAR1ZsHNbT6bxxWt920-kFKOdiB39lSwQ0pKfwSbA-8IvhkBS0dVeT6w-zWQ Amount Scammed: 100usdt deposited + the sum of won bets Payment Method: usdt Proof of Payment: https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/dcba2163197c532b142916797da636394727116d3a43cd3d6b2ecd7128f7b94a https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/1acb188eb99dba01cc7391300ad10f76e95fec2011465d80fc2436cb07d06495 Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: examplens on March 22, 2023, 10:47:07 AM could you be a little more clear about what happened here?
how much deposit did you send exactly? Somewhere you say $100 and somewhere else $150 or $250... Quote First, they kept a deposit of 150usdt Quote I deposited 250usdt, and the only allowed me to withdraw 148usdt. Quote Amount Scammed: 100usdt deposited + if you want us to press them for this, we need to know on what basis. Also, if you have evidence, you must show it. Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: Team_MegaPari on March 22, 2023, 01:40:46 PM Hi. We have investigated the case and here are the results:
You have requested the deposit of 150 USD which was credited to your Account number 571721597. The security team has asked you to pass the KYC process on 17.03.2023. The verification failed as the team has traced multi-accounting activity in accordance with the provided documents. This is T&C violation, namely 2.32: "Should the bettor commit fraud in respect to the bookmaker (such as the registration of multiple accounts, the use of automated betting software, arbitrage betting, if the betting account is not used for betting, the improper use of loyalty schemes, etc.), the bookmaker reserves the right to stop such fraudulent actions by closure of the customer’s account." Moreover, owning few accounts is considered as an unfair gambling activity - that is why you were able to withdraw only your initial deposit and not the winnings gained with few accounts. According to the info from the financial dept, the withdrawal is successful. Should you have any other questions, you are welcome to ask me. Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: holydarkness on March 22, 2023, 02:01:37 PM Hi. We have investigated the case and here are the results: You have requested the deposit of 150 USD which was credited to your Account number 571721597. The security team has asked you to pass the KYC process on 17.03.2023. The verification failed as the team has traced multi-accounting activity in accordance with the provided documents. This is T&C violation, namely 2.32: "[...]" Moreover, owning few accounts is considered as an unfair gambling activity - that is why you were able to withdraw only your initial deposit and not the winnings gained with few accounts. According to the info from the financial dept, the withdrawal is successful. Should you have any other questions, you are welcome to ask me. I don't think I understand correctly, were you saying that OP tried to cheat with multiple accounts and pooled the winnings into one account --not familiar with your platform, but I'll guess you allows user-to-user fund transfer-- and tried to withdraw them? If I understood you correctly, then OP is dumb, but can you provide a screenshot of multiple accounts transferring their winnings into the main account, to help backing up your claim? Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: Team_MegaPari on March 22, 2023, 02:18:35 PM Hi. We have investigated the case and here are the results: You have requested the deposit of 150 USD which was credited to your Account number 571721597. The security team has asked you to pass the KYC process on 17.03.2023. The verification failed as the team has traced multi-accounting activity in accordance with the provided documents. This is T&C violation, namely 2.32: "[...]" Moreover, owning few accounts is considered as an unfair gambling activity - that is why you were able to withdraw only your initial deposit and not the winnings gained with few accounts. According to the info from the financial dept, the withdrawal is successful. Should you have any other questions, you are welcome to ask me. I don't think I understand correctly, were you saying that OP tried to cheat with multiple accounts and pooled the winnings into one account --not familiar with your platform, but I'll guess you allows user-to-user fund transfer-- and tried to withdraw them? If I understood you correctly, then OP is dumb, but can you provide a screenshot of multiple accounts transferring their winnings into the main account, to help backing up your claim? We are talking not about payment accounts, but player accounts. A player may create few payment accounts (in that case 571022107 and 571721597) but only one personal account per family, address, e-mail address, IP address, ID, etc. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to share screenshots from admin pages. Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 22, 2023, 11:38:07 PM could you be a little more clear about what happened here? how much deposit did you send exactly? Somewhere you say $100 and somewhere else $150 or $250... Quote First, they kept a deposit of 150usdt Quote I deposited 250usdt, and the only allowed me to withdraw 148usdt. Quote Amount Scammed: 100usdt deposited + if you want us to press them for this, we need to know on what basis. Also, if you have evidence, you must show it. i think i was very clear. i deposited twice: first of 100usdt and second of 150usdt. they only allowed me to withdraw the second deposit, not the first one nor the winnings. so the owe me 100usdt + the winnings. i already sent the link information of both deposits in the 1st message of this post Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 22, 2023, 11:44:13 PM Hi. We have investigated the case and here are the results: You have requested the deposit of 150 USD which was credited to your Account number 571721597. The security team has asked you to pass the KYC process on 17.03.2023. The verification failed as the team has traced multi-accounting activity in accordance with the provided documents. This is T&C violation, namely 2.32: "[...]" Moreover, owning few accounts is considered as an unfair gambling activity - that is why you were able to withdraw only your initial deposit and not the winnings gained with few accounts. According to the info from the financial dept, the withdrawal is successful. Should you have any other questions, you are welcome to ask me. I don't think I understand correctly, were you saying that OP tried to cheat with multiple accounts and pooled the winnings into one account --not familiar with your platform, but I'll guess you allows user-to-user fund transfer-- and tried to withdraw them? If I understood you correctly, then OP is dumb, but can you provide a screenshot of multiple accounts transferring their winnings into the main account, to help backing up your claim? We are talking not about payment accounts, but player accounts. A player may create few payment accounts (in that case 571022107 and 571721597) but only one personal account per family, address, e-mail address, IP address, ID, etc. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to share screenshots from admin pages. this is bullshit. i only created one account. based on what are u assuming I created more than one?? are u crazy? u cant prove that and your acussations are so false. not same ip, not same device, not same email, not same ID, not even the persone u talking about is relative of mine. i sent you all the proofs u asked for, absolutely all, how can u say is a fake profile???? what are you talking about? u can't prove anything, i can prove everything. stop saying bullshits u dont want to pay me whats its mine because of nothing, u have no right nor reason not proof. so please, if u consider yourself a serious website, not a scammer, allow me to withdraw what is mine Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: spyrosc200 on March 23, 2023, 07:09:12 AM Hi. We have investigated the case and here are the results: You have requested the deposit of 150 USD which was credited to your Account number 571721597. The security team has asked you to pass the KYC process on 17.03.2023. The verification failed as the team has traced multi-accounting activity in accordance with the provided documents. This is T&C violation, namely 2.32: "[...]" Moreover, owning few accounts is considered as an unfair gambling activity - that is why you were able to withdraw only your initial deposit and not the winnings gained with few accounts. According to the info from the financial dept, the withdrawal is successful. Should you have any other questions, you are welcome to ask me. I don't think I understand correctly, were you saying that OP tried to cheat with multiple accounts and pooled the winnings into one account --not familiar with your platform, but I'll guess you allows user-to-user fund transfer-- and tried to withdraw them? If I understood you correctly, then OP is dumb, but can you provide a screenshot of multiple accounts transferring their winnings into the main account, to help backing up your claim? We are talking not about payment accounts, but player accounts. A player may create few payment accounts (in that case 571022107 and 571721597) but only one personal account per family, address, e-mail address, IP address, ID, etc. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to share screenshots from admin pages. It does not work like that, you need proof for your actions. If you don't want to share screenshots from admin pages in public, do you accept a 3rd party mediator for the case? Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: Team_MegaPari on March 23, 2023, 11:13:50 AM Hey.
The player has deposited 98,94 USDT at first. The money had been used to place bets before the verification process begun. The player has made few withdrawal attempts, but it could not be processed, and the funds came back to his account. The reason for that was that the security dept has requested to pass the KYC process first. The player has provided the requested documents, but the team must have found matching data with another account that belonged to Lopez Iglesias Marcos, which is the players' friend. It is not allowed to share any data with other people for placing bets on the platform, incl. family and friends. As the violation of the rule, the team has started to cancel bets that were made on the platform. The total amount was 262.21 USDT. When the company faces with unfair gambling activity, the winnings gained as a result of violation of the T&C are not be paid off. In that case, we get 262.21 USDT minus the amount of winning = 148.83 USDT that are successfully credited to the player's bank account. https://i.postimg.cc/QtBBk3Jv/photo-2023-03-23-10-50-09.jpg Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: holydarkness on March 23, 2023, 11:36:52 AM Hey. The player has deposited 98,94 USDT at first. The money had been used to place bets before the verification process begun. The player has made few withdrawal attempts, but it could not be processed, and the funds came back to his account. The reason for that was that the security dept has requested to pass the KYC process first. The player has provided the requested documents, but the team must have found matching data with another account that belonged to Lopez Iglesias Marcos, which is the players' friend. It is not allowed to share any data with other people for placing bets on the platform, incl. family and friends. As the violation of the rule, the team has started to cancel bets that were made on the platform. The total amount was 262.21 USDT. When the company faces with unfair gambling activity, the winnings gained as a result of violation of the T&C are not be paid off. In that case, we get 262.21 USDT minus the amount of winning = 148.83 USDT that are successfully credited to the player's bank account. [image snip] I think it would be best to re-upload the image with OP's email address censored, just to be safe and sure you're still giving your best to protect their privacy. I understand that you also asked for Mr. Marcos' KYC and thus know that the same ID are shared on both account? Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: Team_MegaPari on March 23, 2023, 01:30:41 PM Hey. The player has deposited 98,94 USDT at first. The money had been used to place bets before the verification process begun. The player has made few withdrawal attempts, but it could not be processed, and the funds came back to his account. The reason for that was that the security dept has requested to pass the KYC process first. The player has provided the requested documents, but the team must have found matching data with another account that belonged to Lopez Iglesias Marcos, which is the players' friend. It is not allowed to share any data with other people for placing bets on the platform, incl. family and friends. As the violation of the rule, the team has started to cancel bets that were made on the platform. The total amount was 262.21 USDT. When the company faces with unfair gambling activity, the winnings gained as a result of violation of the T&C are not be paid off. In that case, we get 262.21 USDT minus the amount of winning = 148.83 USDT that are successfully credited to the player's bank account. [image snip] I think it would be best to re-upload the image with OP's email address censored, just to be safe and sure you're still giving your best to protect their privacy. I understand that you also asked for Mr. Marcos' KYC and thus know that the same ID are shared on both account? Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: examplens on March 23, 2023, 06:29:47 PM Hey. The player has deposited 98,94 USDT at first. The money had been used to place bets before the verification process begun. The player has made few withdrawal attempts, but it could not be processed, and the funds came back to his account. The reason for that was that the security dept has requested to pass the KYC process first. The player has provided the requested documents, but the team must have found matching data with another account that belonged to Lopez Iglesias Marcos, which is the players' friend. It is not allowed to share any data with other people for placing bets on the platform, incl. family and friends. As the violation of the rule, the team has started to cancel bets that were made on the platform. The total amount was 262.21 USDT. Which part exactly was not in accordance with your rules? that he shared information with a friend about his betting on your site or do you have a well-founded suspicion that it is the same user with multiple accounts? Also, what is happening with the Lopez Iglesias Marcos account, is he also under KYC verification and is his account closed? when the OP already emphasized, can you declare if there is any connection between you and 1xbit? Quote When the company faces with unfair gambling activity, the winnings gained as a result of violation of the T&C are not be paid off. In that case, we get 262.21 USDT minus the amount of winning = 148.83 USDT that are successfully credited to the player's bank account. marcloig can you confirm that you get your money back in your bank account? Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 24, 2023, 10:40:07 PM Hey. The player has deposited 98,94 USDT at first. The money had been used to place bets before the verification process begun. The player has made few withdrawal attempts, but it could not be processed, and the funds came back to his account. The reason for that was that the security dept has requested to pass the KYC process first. The player has provided the requested documents, but the team must have found matching data with another account that belonged to Lopez Iglesias Marcos, which is the players' friend. It is not allowed to share any data with other people for placing bets on the platform, incl. family and friends. As the violation of the rule, the team has started to cancel bets that were made on the platform. The total amount was 262.21 USDT. When the company faces with unfair gambling activity, the winnings gained as a result of violation of the T&C are not be paid off. In that case, we get 262.21 USDT minus the amount of winning = 148.83 USDT that are successfully credited to the player's bank account. [image snip] I think it would be best to re-upload the image with OP's email address censored, just to be safe and sure you're still giving your best to protect their privacy. I understand that you also asked for Mr. Marcos' KYC and thus know that the same ID are shared on both account? what u are saying is total FAKE how can u say the account of my friend and mine have same IP, type of device, payment data.. what??? stop inventing things!!!!!!! THIS IS NOT FUCKING TRUE I dare you to prove it!! come on! publish his data and my data!! i have a friend who bet in your website, SO WHAT?? just for that u keep and steal MY MONEY?? I proved with several documents my identity, i have total different IP, device... PAYMENT DATA U SAID?? I deposit by crypto and my friend doesnt even have any crypto wallet, so what the fuck are u talking about?? you have just betrayed yourselves as a totally fraudulent website. U CANT KEEP AND STEAL MONEY FROM USERS JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE FRIEND WHO HAS AN ACCOUNT ON THE WEBSITE TOO So, I demand you to pay me what is mine And moreover, u ask same proofs as 1XBIT, send same emails as 1XBIT, has same design as 1XBIT, same markets as 1XBIT, and as I just proved, same SCAM as 1XBIT Again, pay me my money Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: T3PR00T on March 24, 2023, 10:50:46 PM ]I dare you to prove it!! come on! publish his data and my data!! It's not about dare or truth, it's about legal and illegal. By law, they can not publish anyone's data in public even if you give them the consent for your documents.Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 24, 2023, 10:53:22 PM Hey. The player has deposited 98,94 USDT at first. The money had been used to place bets before the verification process begun. The player has made few withdrawal attempts, but it could not be processed, and the funds came back to his account. The reason for that was that the security dept has requested to pass the KYC process first. The player has provided the requested documents, but the team must have found matching data with another account that belonged to Lopez Iglesias Marcos, which is the players' friend. It is not allowed to share any data with other people for placing bets on the platform, incl. family and friends. As the violation of the rule, the team has started to cancel bets that were made on the platform. The total amount was 262.21 USDT. Which part exactly was not in accordance with your rules? that he shared information with a friend about his betting on your site or do you have a well-founded suspicion that it is the same user with multiple accounts? Also, what is happening with the Lopez Iglesias Marcos account, is he also under KYC verification and is his account closed? when the OP already emphasized, can you declare if there is any connection between you and 1xbit? Quote When the company faces with unfair gambling activity, the winnings gained as a result of violation of the T&C are not be paid off. In that case, we get 262.21 USDT minus the amount of winning = 148.83 USDT that are successfully credited to the player's bank account. marcloig can you confirm that you get your money back in your bank account? I get to my crypto wallet just the half of the money i legally had in the megapari account Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 24, 2023, 11:04:08 PM ]I dare you to prove it!! come on! publish his data and my data!! It's not about dare or truth, it's about legal and illegal. By law, they can not publish anyone's data in public even if you give them the consent for your documents.well, they actually said my friends name but ok, anyway, they are lying. impossible we have same ip, device and bullshit, living in different cities. they are just making up thing to justifiy the stolen money from my account shame on megapri, bunch of scammers Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 24, 2023, 11:27:11 PM but ok, anyway, they are lying. impossible we have same ip, device and bullshit, living in different cities. Things like this are impossible to prove for third party like us forum members. It's like your words vs their words. They can not share the data in public and we can not verify if the data are manipulated. The only people who can verify such data are the providers (sports and game providers). When the case will accelerate more then the license provider is your last destination.Hey. The player has deposited 98,94 USDT at first. The money had been used to place bets before the verification process begun. The player has made few withdrawal attempts, but it could not be processed, and the funds came back to his account. The reason for that was that the security dept has requested to pass the KYC process first. The player has provided the requested documents, but the team must have found matching data with another account that belonged to Lopez Iglesias Marcos, which is the players' friend. It is not allowed to share any data with other people for placing bets on the platform, incl. family and friends. As the violation of the rule, the team has started to cancel bets that were made on the platform. The total amount was 262.21 USDT. When the company faces with unfair gambling activity, the winnings gained as a result of violation of the T&C are not be paid off. In that case, we get 262.21 USDT minus the amount of winning = 148.83 USDT that are successfully credited to the player's bank account. [image snip] I think it would be best to re-upload the image with OP's email address censored, just to be safe and sure you're still giving your best to protect their privacy. I understand that you also asked for Mr. Marcos' KYC and thus know that the same ID are shared on both account? Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: yhiaali3 on March 24, 2023, 11:51:47 PM You have requested the deposit of 150 USD which was credited to your Account number 571721597. I have a question about KYC, I want to understand something. Is KYC mandatory when registering on your site? Why was KYC verification not required upon registration before depositing?The security team has asked you to pass the KYC process on 17.03.2023. The verification failed as the team has traced multi-accounting activity in accordance with the provided documents. This is T&C violation.... If this is true, I think it is not fair that you do not require KYC when the player makes a deposit, while asking him for KYC if he wants to withdraw!!! Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: holydarkness on March 25, 2023, 03:35:05 AM well, they actually said my friends name but ok, anyway, they are lying. impossible we have same ip, device and bullshit, living in different cities. they are just making up thing to justifiy the stolen money from my account shame on megapri, bunch of scammers We understand you were recommended the site by that friend, Lopez Marcos? And you both preferred different methods for depositing funds; you by crypto and Marcos by fiat? May I assume you sign-up with his referral code? Or were you signing up without any ref. code at all? Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 25, 2023, 12:18:52 PM well, they actually said my friends name but ok, anyway, they are lying. impossible we have same ip, device and bullshit, living in different cities. they are just making up thing to justifiy the stolen money from my account shame on megapri, bunch of scammers We understand you were recommended the site by that friend, Lopez Marcos? And you both preferred different methods for depositing funds; you by crypto and Marcos by fiat? May I assume you sign-up with his referral code? Or were you signing up without any ref. code at all? no referal code, and nothing else in commom (we live hundres of miles away) except he is my friend and told me im betting here because this website has a lot of markets i just registered on my own, deposit by crypto (and yes my friend deposit with fiat because he does not have any crypto thing), make few bets, then all of a sudden i was not able to bet more than 1€ (just 2-3 days after registering) and when i wanted to withdraw, thousands of proof (even sending selfie with my id and the conversation with megapari in the background, all in the same picture), and the fucking scammers just allowed me to withdraw half of the money i had in the account FOR NO REASON @Team_MegaPari, scammers, please, i dont give a shit if you publish my ip data, way of deposit, id, device, etc. 100% everthing is different of my friends account. be honest just for once in your life, and admit we have nothing to do with each other in any term Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: holydarkness on March 25, 2023, 07:30:15 PM well, they actually said my friends name but ok, anyway, they are lying. impossible we have same ip, device and bullshit, living in different cities. they are just making up thing to justifiy the stolen money from my account shame on megapri, bunch of scammers We understand you were recommended the site by that friend, Lopez Marcos? And you both preferred different methods for depositing funds; you by crypto and Marcos by fiat? May I assume you sign-up with his referral code? Or were you signing up without any ref. code at all? no referal code, and nothing else in commom (we live hundres of miles away) except he is my friend and told me im betting here because this website has a lot of markets i just registered on my own, deposit by crypto (and yes my friend deposit with fiat because he does not have any crypto thing), make few bets, then all of a sudden i was not able to bet more than 1€ (just 2-3 days after registering) and when i wanted to withdraw, thousands of proof (even sending selfie with my id and the conversation with megapari in the background, all in the same picture), and the fucking scammers just allowed me to withdraw half of the money i had in the account FOR NO REASON @Team_MegaPari, scammers, please, i dont give a shit if you publish my ip data, way of deposit, id, device, etc. 100% everthing is different of my friends account. be honest just for once in your life, and admit we have nothing to do with each other in any term Then I find myself in a position so hard to understand how MegaPari could have guessed and/or make a connection between you and Lopez Marcos. I asked if you use his referral code or not in hope to get a better understanding for the case, how the findings made by megapari was initially founded and on what basis. Well, in a way, it does; it just didn't lean towards your favor. Initially we've established that he's a friend of yours, who live in another city, hundreds of miles away, have different IP for sure, different device to access the site, different preferred deposit method --one prefers crypto and one prefers fiat. I would assume you both has different preferences of games too. We also learned that he recommended megapari to you, but you've never use his referral code. So basically there's no ties between you and him, as you stated yourself above. Wouldn't you agree that it's a hell of a lucky guess that Megapari could connect the dots between the two of you down to the first, middle, and last name? I can't fathom how low is the probability of guessing correctly that you and Mr. Marcos are "acquainted", given all of the points above. Imagine how many people in your country played on their site, few good hundreds are even probably played from the same city with you, maybe even your own neighbor played on megapari too, and for unfathomable reason megapari could have guessed that you and someone else hundreds of miles away from you are --at the very least-- friends? With no prior things that could connect your dot to his? Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: spyrosc200 on March 26, 2023, 09:16:41 AM well, they actually said my friends name but ok, anyway, they are lying. impossible we have same ip, device and bullshit, living in different cities. they are just making up thing to justifiy the stolen money from my account shame on megapri, bunch of scammers We understand you were recommended the site by that friend, Lopez Marcos? And you both preferred different methods for depositing funds; you by crypto and Marcos by fiat? May I assume you sign-up with his referral code? Or were you signing up without any ref. code at all? no referal code, and nothing else in commom (we live hundres of miles away) except he is my friend and told me im betting here because this website has a lot of markets i just registered on my own, deposit by crypto (and yes my friend deposit with fiat because he does not have any crypto thing), make few bets, then all of a sudden i was not able to bet more than 1€ (just 2-3 days after registering) and when i wanted to withdraw, thousands of proof (even sending selfie with my id and the conversation with megapari in the background, all in the same picture), and the fucking scammers just allowed me to withdraw half of the money i had in the account FOR NO REASON @Team_MegaPari, scammers, please, i dont give a shit if you publish my ip data, way of deposit, id, device, etc. 100% everthing is different of my friends account. be honest just for once in your life, and admit we have nothing to do with each other in any term Then I find myself in a position so hard to understand how MegaPari could have guessed and/or make a connection between you and Lopez Marcos. I asked if you use his referral code or not in hope to get a better understanding for the case, how the findings made by megapari was initially founded and on what basis. Well, in a way, it does; it just didn't lean towards your favor. Initially we've established that he's a friend of yours, who live in another city, hundreds of miles away, have different IP for sure, different device to access the site, different preferred deposit method --one prefers crypto and one prefers fiat. I would assume you both has different preferences of games too. We also learned that he recommended megapari to you, but you've never use his referral code. So basically there's no ties between you and him, as you stated yourself above. Wouldn't you agree that it's a hell of a lucky guess that Megapari could connect the dots between the two of you down to the first, middle, and last name? I can't fathom how low is the probability of guessing correctly that you and Mr. Marcos are "acquainted", given all of the points above. Imagine how many people in your country played on their site, few good hundreds are even probably played from the same city with you, maybe even your own neighbor played on megapari too, and for unfathomable reason megapari could have guessed that you and someone else hundreds of miles away from you are --at the very least-- friends? With no prior things that could connect your dot to his? I have the same question as well. If no IP is the same, no device is the same, no referral code used etc, how on earth Megapari connected those 2 accounts? Can only assume that they both shared their bets. They both ended up placing same bets with Megapari so it was easy for Megapari to connect them. Still don't think that this is prohibited from their TOS though but not sure. Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 26, 2023, 10:12:09 PM well, they actually said my friends name but ok, anyway, they are lying. impossible we have same ip, device and bullshit, living in different cities. they are just making up thing to justifiy the stolen money from my account shame on megapri, bunch of scammers We understand you were recommended the site by that friend, Lopez Marcos? And you both preferred different methods for depositing funds; you by crypto and Marcos by fiat? May I assume you sign-up with his referral code? Or were you signing up without any ref. code at all? no referal code, and nothing else in commom (we live hundres of miles away) except he is my friend and told me im betting here because this website has a lot of markets i just registered on my own, deposit by crypto (and yes my friend deposit with fiat because he does not have any crypto thing), make few bets, then all of a sudden i was not able to bet more than 1€ (just 2-3 days after registering) and when i wanted to withdraw, thousands of proof (even sending selfie with my id and the conversation with megapari in the background, all in the same picture), and the fucking scammers just allowed me to withdraw half of the money i had in the account FOR NO REASON @Team_MegaPari, scammers, please, i dont give a shit if you publish my ip data, way of deposit, id, device, etc. 100% everthing is different of my friends account. be honest just for once in your life, and admit we have nothing to do with each other in any term Then I find myself in a position so hard to understand how MegaPari could have guessed and/or make a connection between you and Lopez Marcos. I asked if you use his referral code or not in hope to get a better understanding for the case, how the findings made by megapari was initially founded and on what basis. Well, in a way, it does; it just didn't lean towards your favor. Initially we've established that he's a friend of yours, who live in another city, hundreds of miles away, have different IP for sure, different device to access the site, different preferred deposit method --one prefers crypto and one prefers fiat. I would assume you both has different preferences of games too. We also learned that he recommended megapari to you, but you've never use his referral code. So basically there's no ties between you and him, as you stated yourself above. Wouldn't you agree that it's a hell of a lucky guess that Megapari could connect the dots between the two of you down to the first, middle, and last name? I can't fathom how low is the probability of guessing correctly that you and Mr. Marcos are "acquainted", given all of the points above. Imagine how many people in your country played on their site, few good hundreds are even probably played from the same city with you, maybe even your own neighbor played on megapari too, and for unfathomable reason megapari could have guessed that you and someone else hundreds of miles away from you are --at the very least-- friends? With no prior things that could connect your dot to his? I have the same question as well. If no IP is the same, no device is the same, no referral code used etc, how on earth Megapari connected those 2 accounts? Can only assume that they both shared their bets. They both ended up placing same bets with Megapari so it was easy for Megapari to connect them. Still don't think that this is prohibited from their TOS though but not sure. no we didnt for sure, because i only could set 3-4 bets befofe i got fucked by them and were my own bets, so its impossible the reason is they are a REAL SCAMMERS aswell as 1xbit and 22bet They really have no reason, no proof, no nothing DONT BET HERE Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: Team_MegaPari on March 27, 2023, 09:04:26 AM Hello everyone.
We are still investigating the case and will get back to you with an answer. If you have any other comments concerning the complaint, please leave them here so we have all the related information in one thread. Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 27, 2023, 10:31:10 PM Hello everyone. We are still investigating the case and will get back to you with an answer. If you have any other comments concerning the complaint, please leave them here so we have all the related information in one thread. ok, i will wait for justice to come, hopefully let me know anything by email or quoting me here Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: Team_MegaPari on March 28, 2023, 07:57:38 AM Hello to @marcloig and all interested.
We have finished investigating the case. I have got in touch with the security department one more time regarding the reason of the account disabling. Still, the reason is following: "Should the bettor commit fraud in respect to the bookmaker (such as the registration of multiple accounts, the use of automated betting software, arbitrage betting, if the betting account is not used for betting, the improper use of loyalty schemes, etc.), the bookmaker reserves the right to stop such fraudulent actions by: -bet cancellation; -closure of the customer’s account. Money that has been deposited into the account will be refunded. -filing a claim to a law-enforcement agency." We did trace connection with the so-called friend's account. Although many users here are interested in the details how the security department detects such connections, this data is considered to be vulnerable and is thoroughly preserved. Thus, we prevent the emergence of new fraudulent schemes by keeping our security tools in secret. The MegaPari team is always open to your questions, until they do not intend to disclose the company's confident information. By placing bets, players must understand that gambling authorities are ALWAYS in touch with their colleagues from other casinos and bookmakers. We share a competitive market, but when it comes to analyzing players activity, its security departments do trust their colleagues opinion and information provided by them. So the player is "well-known from other platforms". This also serves well as a reasoning why the player blame MegaPari to be somehow similar to 1xbet, 1xbit and any others - if the player is blocked there, he will more likely be blocked in other gambling establishments. And not because we share business or the same platform - the process of how players' activity and profile is being analyzed by the security dept is much more sophisticated. According to my experience, all new players who come to the MegaPari ANN thread and open complaints - they all got blocked acc. to the reason expressed above and not only at MegaPari. It is cooperation against unfair gambling activity. We will consider this message as our final word. The player is free to give this case a further move, if he is sure that a third-party investigation serves for his better. Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: frenchmika on March 28, 2023, 10:43:48 AM so it means all the bookmakers share / sell / buy our informations from each others
its rotten from the inside my only issue is u not accepting winning players and hide behind some secret bullshit to lower the odds or max bet when u detect someone have skills or make money u are not fair play with us like pinnacle for example Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: Team_MegaPari on March 28, 2023, 11:21:21 AM so it means all the bookmakers share / sell / buy our informations from each others its rotten from the inside my only issue is u not accepting winning players and hide behind some secret bullshit to lower the odds or max bet when u detect someone have skills or make money u are not fair play with us like pinnacle for example We are an iGaming brand. We believe in fair gambling and do our best to create a healthy gambling environment. Perhaps, if your intention is to earn and not play/bet for the game's sake, our platform might not be suitable for you. Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: examplens on March 28, 2023, 11:44:21 AM We did trace connection with the so-called friend's account. Although many users here are interested in the details how the security department detects such connections, this data is considered to be vulnerable and is thoroughly preserved. Thus, we prevent the emergence of new fraudulent schemes by keeping our security tools in secret. The MegaPari team is always open to your questions, until they do not intend to disclose the company's confident information. this is partially acceptable for now, mostly because the OP himself admitted the existence of a famous friend's account. probably in a more complicated case, this kind of explanation will not be enough. you can't say, hey, we have a method and we made a decision based on that. your method must also enable the display of evidence. after all that, I didn't see your concern when you publicly stated the real name of the user who went through KYC on your platform. none of you is asked to present the tools for such investigations, but you can certainly provide more precise details of the results you get through your tools and investigation. with this excuse, you can cover all conflicts with players. so it means all the bookmakers share / sell / buy our informations from each others I wouldn't be surprised if casinos share some kind of collection of blacklisted users with their email, IP addresses etc... I have seen such practice in other businesses outside of gambling. no one wants to be misused to their own detriment. if we talk about this case, the rule is one person, one account (as far as I know, this is the rule in almost all casinos). why is that so hard to accept? if the casino forbids alt accounts, just don't make them. it is very hard for me to believe a friend's account from the same IP address or even where a brother, sister or the entire family has their own account at the same casino and they are all passionate gamblers. it sounds crazy and it is the most common excuse in many similar cases. To the OP, take your money out from there and move on. there are so many casinos today, it is to be expected that some of them are more or less suitable for you. Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: LEVSKI7 on March 28, 2023, 11:57:59 AM Such a rule is illegal from a legal point of view.the regulator should impose a fine and then license revocation
Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: frenchmika on March 28, 2023, 01:18:05 PM so it means all the bookmakers share / sell / buy our informations from each others its rotten from the inside my only issue is u not accepting winning players and hide behind some secret bullshit to lower the odds or max bet when u detect someone have skills or make money u are not fair play with us like pinnacle for example We are an iGaming brand. We believe in fair gambling and do our best to create a healthy gambling environment. Perhaps, if your intention is to earn and not play/bet for the game's sake, our platform might not be suitable for you. we play for the winning the goal is not to loose money so u mean if im a winner its not fair gambling ... Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 28, 2023, 03:54:17 PM We did trace connection with the so-called friend's account. Although many users here are interested in the details how the security department detects such connections, this data is considered to be vulnerable and is thoroughly preserved. Thus, we prevent the emergence of new fraudulent schemes by keeping our security tools in secret. The MegaPari team is always open to your questions, until they do not intend to disclose the company's confident information. this is partially acceptable for now, mostly because the OP himself admitted the existence of a famous friend's account. probably in a more complicated case, this kind of explanation will not be enough. you can't say, hey, we have a method and we made a decision based on that. your method must also enable the display of evidence. after all that, I didn't see your concern when you publicly stated the real name of the user who went through KYC on your platform. none of you is asked to present the tools for such investigations, but you can certainly provide more precise details of the results you get through your tools and investigation. with this excuse, you can cover all conflicts with players. so it means all the bookmakers share / sell / buy our informations from each others I wouldn't be surprised if casinos share some kind of collection of blacklisted users with their email, IP addresses etc... I have seen such practice in other businesses outside of gambling. no one wants to be misused to their own detriment. if we talk about this case, the rule is one person, one account (as far as I know, this is the rule in almost all casinos). why is that so hard to accept? if the casino forbids alt accounts, just don't make them. it is very hard for me to believe a friend's account from the same IP address or even where a brother, sister or the entire family has their own account at the same casino and they are all passionate gamblers. it sounds crazy and it is the most common excuse in many similar cases. To the OP, take your money out from there and move on. there are so many casinos today, it is to be expected that some of them are more or less suitable for you. i took it, but they only allowed me to withdraw the half of it they already expose themselves as scammers. they are all the same: megapari, 22bet, 1xbit... they really have no reason, and they admitted they share everything with each other. as i got blocked in 22bet, thay literally blocked me in megapari what for? for nothing, i even couldnt set more than 3 bets. shame on them Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: holydarkness on March 28, 2023, 04:47:29 PM so it means all the bookmakers share / sell / buy our informations from each others its rotten from the inside my only issue is u not accepting winning players and hide behind some secret bullshit to lower the odds or max bet when u detect someone have skills or make money u are not fair play with us like pinnacle for example If you abused a system or breached a contract or do anything detrimental to any service or platform on any sector, I believe every company and platform shares this kind of "information" amongst each other. But it's not like they're crazy enough to share essential things of their well-behaved customers. After all, it's on every company's interest to keep their best customer a secret from the competitor. Lest the competitor grabbed that customer from their hand. The simplest and easiest instance of this practice, just to give you a better grasp of the idea, is credit score. If you didn't know about it yet, I'll let you in to one of the big secret of financial institutes: banks share info amongst each other of bad creditor. If someone applied a loan or credit card and they got defaulted or always paid late, the issuing bank will warn other banks that the user should be treated with ounces of caution. If that customer always pay on time and has a good credit score? I don't think banking corporation would share that data, as they have no reason for it. Simply put, if you adhere to the rules of any entities, there's no reason for them to share this info amongst each other. It's a completely different story if you're someone who did something bad against that platform. [...] i took it, but they only allowed me to withdraw the half of it they already expose themselves as scammers. they are all the same: megapari, 22bet, 1xbit... they really have no reason, and they admitted they share everything with each other. as i got blocked in 22bet, thay literally blocked me in megapari what for? for nothing, i even couldnt set more than 3 bets. shame on them As they previously addressed, they've made their final say on your case, but if you want to escalate it further, they're more than welcoming you to bring it to a third party. Megapari is on askgamblers (https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/reviews/megapari-casino), they facilitate a mediation between casino and customer. Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: marcloig on March 28, 2023, 09:37:00 PM so it means all the bookmakers share / sell / buy our informations from each others its rotten from the inside my only issue is u not accepting winning players and hide behind some secret bullshit to lower the odds or max bet when u detect someone have skills or make money u are not fair play with us like pinnacle for example If you abused a system or breached a contract or do anything detrimental to any service or platform on any sector, I believe every company and platform shares this kind of "information" amongst each other. But it's not like they're crazy enough to share essential things of their well-behaved customers. After all, it's on every company's interest to keep their best customer a secret from the competitor. Lest the competitor grabbed that customer from their hand. The simplest and easiest instance of this practice, just to give you a better grasp of the idea, is credit score. If you didn't know about it yet, I'll let you in to one of the big secret of financial institutes: banks share info amongst each other of bad creditor. If someone applied a loan or credit card and they got defaulted or always paid late, the issuing bank will warn other banks that the user should be treated with ounces of caution. If that customer always pay on time and has a good credit score? I don't think banking corporation would share that data, as they have no reason for it. Simply put, if you adhere to the rules of any entities, there's no reason for them to share this info amongst each other. It's a completely different story if you're someone who did something bad against that platform. [...] i took it, but they only allowed me to withdraw the half of it they already expose themselves as scammers. they are all the same: megapari, 22bet, 1xbit... they really have no reason, and they admitted they share everything with each other. as i got blocked in 22bet, thay literally blocked me in megapari what for? for nothing, i even couldnt set more than 3 bets. shame on them As they previously addressed, they've made their final say on your case, but if you want to escalate it further, they're more than welcoming you to bring it to a third party. Megapari is on askgamblers (https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/reviews/megapari-casino), they facilitate a mediation between casino and customer. thanks, i will ask this third party Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: ligz on April 05, 2023, 06:04:22 PM This is an ongoing problem with a lot of the crypto casinos.
They claim something, and will not show evidence of it. As a winning sports bettor I have to deal with this a lot, fortunately I have been paid out everytime but not without false claims against me or other hassles. Betcoing.ag literally called me a cheater and said I was part of a "betting syndicate" but could only prove 95% of it, therefor they paid me because couldnt prove the other 5% it is going to be a risk with every crypto casino you win on. They will never block you before you can deposit, only after you try a withdraw. Title: Re: MEGAPARI Scam Report Post by: T3PR00T on April 05, 2023, 06:41:25 PM it is going to be a risk with every crypto casino you win on. They will never block you before you can deposit, only after you try a withdraw. |
