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Title: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: UmerIdrees on March 26, 2023, 06:24:35 AM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.

Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?

Note: We know hardware wallets are the best alternative but here we are discussing about Bitcoin is more secure in iOS or in an Andriod based phone.


Title: Re: Is stroing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Coin_trader on March 26, 2023, 06:31:34 AM
Imho, They are just the same since they are both connected in the internet. Android becomes less secured if it was being jail break to modify system restrictions. The default security features of Android and IOS are both safe.

In the end. It all base on how the user use the respective gadget to secure their wallet. Assuming same user will do same thing on both IOS and Android device that will affect the Bitcoin wallet then I think the effect will be same regardless on how secure IOS or Android.


Title: Re: Is stroing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 26, 2023, 06:33:34 AM
If you talking about malwares problem, then it's true iOS is better than android, as you can read it below.

According to recent reports, Android users are 50 times more likely to be infected by malware than Apple device users. Similarly, it's estimated that 97% of all malware targets Android users. Why is that? While Apple fans like to point to Android's open source model as the culprit, the truth is that with over 2.5 billion devices in the wild Android simply has a far greater market share than Apple. Naturally, then, hackers will look towards the largest target when crafting their exploits.

But if you think installing wallet without need to verify the PGP signature is already enough since you're use iOS, you're wrong because there's no guarantee you will 100% avoid installing a fake wallet.

What's the point to compare iOS and Android, when you already know the best one to use?


Title: Re: Is stroing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Cantsay on March 26, 2023, 06:38:28 AM
Since they are both hot wallet and they are always connected to the internet they might be exposed to the same risk.
Even if you give the most secure wallet to a careless user and give the most insecure wallet to a very carefully user you might be surprised that the insecure will provide more security than that of the most secure wallet, what I'm trying to say it that the person handling the device should also be considered not just the device alone. We have some people that have been using Android wallet and yet haven't experienced any issue with it and also some that have been using iOS and also haven't experienced any with it.
I would have chose iOS but because of the slow update it receives I'm going to choose Android and besides I'm currently using an Android phone.


Title: Re: Is stroing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: vv181 on March 26, 2023, 06:48:51 AM
It truly depends on the usage. Both OS does not offer better security if the user themselves aren't practising good security habit. There is no guarantee one OS is a way safer place to store compared to others.

Instead of comparing both of these two, learning how to secure any of the smartphones and basic digital security is way better. And do in mind, that security itself is not just about malware and an OS. Both iOS and Android developers surely compete to secure their own systems.


Title: Re: Is stroing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: tbct_mt2 on March 26, 2023, 06:55:22 AM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones.
You can have them on your phones, your mobile devices but it should be wallets to store small part of your capital. Don't store all your coins on phones.

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Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.
Don't store all eggs in one bag. This case on one device.
Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5421039.0) and don't store your exchange accounts, email accounts, 2FA on a same device.

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Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?
iOS is better than Android. It has better filter procedure and less fake apps on iOS than on Android.

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Note: We know hardware wallets are the best alternative but here we are discussing about Bitcoin is more secure in iOS or in an Andriod based phone.
Bitcoin is Bitcoin and it is not better or worse in iOS or in Android phone. It's just what operation system is better.


Title: Re: Is stroing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: NotATether on March 26, 2023, 07:00:28 AM
No. Both of them rely on the secure chip inside your phone to store the private keys and seed phrases. And that's only if the wallet code was written properly in the first place (which is not even possible on not-so-old versions of iOS and Android). So the question you should be asking is: Does the phone I'm using have a secure-enough TPM chip?


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: UmerIdrees on March 26, 2023, 07:19:40 AM
What's the point to compare iOS and Android, when you already know the best one to use?

I don't know which one is the best to use and therefore i have raised a question here  :)

No. Both of them rely on the secure chip inside your phone to store the private keys and seed phrases. And that's only if the wallet code was written properly in the first place (which is not even possible on not-so-old versions of iOS and Android). So the question you should be asking is: Does the phone I'm using have a secure-enough TPM chip?

So how we know about the TPM chip of the phone ? Lets make things easier starting from iPhone12 onwards and Andriod 12 versions phones (the phones which are manufactured in the last 3 years), can be an issue with a wallet code?
I haven't heard of any incident that the private key was stolen by the manufacturer of the phone ???


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: n0ne on March 26, 2023, 07:38:31 AM
iOS is stated to be secure than Android as there is limited number of applications available for iOS than Android. For Android quite often we can see list of applications creating security issues and requested from developers team to remove from the smartphones for better security of the device. Non custodial wallet on mobile devices seems to be secure and for better security I prefer to have separate smartphone which have got only the wallets application. Only for transaction purpose I connect it to internet, rest of the time the smartphone will be offline.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: bussybuddy on March 26, 2023, 07:45:23 AM
I don't get too involved in the technical issues of security systems on mobile platforms, but I see the security issue between them as the same and the problem lies in the user's usage behavior. Some devices from samsung have good quality of security, i assume so because i'm using them.
And I use it aside from redundant ads, I find most things safe, and even if there is a security incident, I'm not sure who will stand out to protect users outside of the government. They equip themselves with skills to protect their personal information.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Rikafip on March 26, 2023, 07:52:55 AM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.
If that is really the case, that majority of people are keeping their crypto on ther mobile phones then many are doing it very wrong. Keep in mind that malware is not youyr only cocnern when you are storing larger amounts of crypto on your mobile phone as anyone can take the phone from you and beat the shit out of you to get the access once he realized that you have a mobile phone wallet. This scenraio might seem far fetched you, but these things happen.


Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?
It doesn't make much sense to me to spend $1k+ just to be a little bit safer when you can spend less than $100 for a hardware wallet and be much safer. I am using android phone but I never have more than $100-$200 on my hot wallet as that's the max amount I am willing to risk to lose that way


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Farma on March 26, 2023, 08:17:38 AM
i think its the same. storing bitcoins on android and on iPhone will probably be the same, because basically, the storage of softwallets is based on private keys and passwords. in fact, when you use an iPhone, when other people know that, then that person will also be able to access the wallet that you have. however, I think if it's a malware problem, iPhone is slightly better than android. Besides that, the iPhone also has a system where when your iPhone is lost, you can find it more easily than Android.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Stalker22 on March 26, 2023, 08:46:59 AM
What's the point to compare iOS and Android, when you already know the best one to use?

I don't know which one is the best to use and therefore i have raised a question here  :)

Both iPhone and Android phones can be safe enough for storing Bitcoin, but it is important to choose a reputable brand and model with up-to-date security features. Also, you should make sure to use a reputable wallet app and follow best practices for securing your private keys. Therefore, comparing the security of these devices beyond this point is irrelevant, as any security vulnerabilities would likely be the result of bad software or user error rather than inherent weaknesses in the device itself.

But, to ensure the highest level of security for storing your Bitcoin, it is recommended to use a hardware wallet instead.


Title: Re: Is stroing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Crypt0Gore on March 26, 2023, 08:47:52 AM
IOS doesn't offer any better security and not prone to malware, you are dead wrong if you think this way, using iPhone won't safe your ass from phishing links when browsing the internet, it won't tell you that a link sent to your email is scam free.

It is the same thing with android phones too, both IOS and Android users that have crypto wallets installed on their phones need to be extra careful compared to someone who has a Ledger or Trezor hardware wallet.

You can't do anything offline on your IOS and Android apart from playing music and videos or games, you need to always turn on your internet connection and that's where the problem is when it comes to crypto wallet security.

If you are using both IOS and Android, be extra careful what you do on them, remember that the internet connection you have on the devices makes them vulnerable to scams and stealing of assets, avoid PMs with links, in emails, or connecting your wallet to the unknown platforms.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: mindrust on March 26, 2023, 08:54:29 AM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.

Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?

Note: We know hardware wallets are the best alternative but here we are discussing about Bitcoin is more secure in iOS or in an Andriod based phone.

Probably yes. I still wouldn't store too many coins in either of them because regardless of the OS they are using, they are both hot wallets in the end. If you want to store your coins for the long term, then you need to get an offline/cold wallet. I am not going to get into the specifics since there are many tutorials on that subject.

How much cash normally you would carry in your physical cash wallet? $200? $500? $1000? Find an answer to this question. If your answer is "$200" then this is the amount you should be keeping in your mobile device.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Z-tight on March 26, 2023, 09:07:58 AM
If you are storing huge funds for the long period and somehow you can't get a hardware wallet, you can use Electrum software wallet in either an android or IOS device to store your funds, this device must be airgapped, and either new or formatted, and must never be connected to the internet, this offline device would hold the keys to your funds, and would be used to sign transactions only.

While on your second device, either android or IOS which should be the hot wallet would be used for watching only and for broadcasting transactions for your offline wallet. You can also create another hot wallet in it, with a new seed phrase, so this wallet becomes your online wallet for keeping a small amount of money, less than 50-100 usd for spending when you wish. This way you don't have to worry about the OS of the device you are using, whichever it is, you are using it in the correct way and in a safe enviroment, so the chances of you losing your money is small.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: hZti on March 26, 2023, 09:12:06 AM
iOS is safer, like it is also safe to have your wallet on a Mac device. This is because there are simply more viruses that focus on more popular systems. Even if it is not the topic you should consider storing your bitcoins on a paper wallet which is free and very secure.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: virasog on March 26, 2023, 09:23:44 AM
If that is really the case, that majority of people are keeping their crypto on ther mobile phones then many are doing it very wrong. Keep in mind that malware is not youyr only cocnern when you are storing larger amounts of crypto on your mobile phone as anyone can take the phone from you and beat the shit out of you to get the access once he realized that you have a mobile phone wallet. This scenraio might seem far fetched you, but these things happen.

Here is something we can say that iOS is more secure than Android phone. In case of a phone snatch, not only your wallets but your data is also at risk as anyone can get access to the Android phone storage. However, on the other hand, no can login in your iPhone and more importantly no one can reset it unless they have your iCloud password. But regarding the wallets, i don't think it is safe to keep them in either of the phones.


I prefer to have separate smartphone which have got only the wallets application. Only for transaction purpose I connect it to internet, rest of the time the smartphone will be offline.

Even though your wallet in your phone is not connected to the internet most of the time, it is certainly not a replacement for a hardware wallet. And it will still be considered a hot wallet that can be hacked.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on March 26, 2023, 11:13:26 AM
It all depends on how careful you are with your login details or private keys and seed phrase. I have been using Android phone for since I joined this forum I have never experienced any hack or breached of security on my app which I stores currencies. Likewise iOS, it's true is good to used but whenever your phone is opened to unauthorized user or who knows things about bitcoin your details might got stolen and from then your being hacked so keep your phone out of reach from your friends and don't allow your children to toil with it because whenever the phone is damage there's every possibility of you losing all your funds stored inside all less your keys were stored out of your phone to any other devices as a backup.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Z-tight on March 26, 2023, 11:23:35 AM
Even though your wallet in your phone is not connected to the internet most of the time, it is certainly not a replacement for a hardware wallet. And it will still be considered a hot wallet that can be hacked.
That is not correct. If you set up a wallet on a new or formatted device that is airgapped and never connected on the internet, it has the same security as a hardware wallet, just that it is more difficult to set up and use in a safe enviroment than a hardware wallet. It isn't a hot wallet, a hot wallet is one that is used on a device that is connected to the internet.
In case of a phone snatch, not only your wallets but your data is also at risk as anyone can get access to the Android phone storage.
If you set up a password, pin or lock pattern in your android device, no one can have access to it if the phone is stolen, for the thief to use the phone, they would have to format the phone which would erase all the existing information and data on the phone. The thief would only gain access to the information on the phone if they know the password, pin or pattern to unlock it.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: hugeblack on March 26, 2023, 11:25:19 AM
If you do not know what to do or act randomly, even if you buy a hardware wallet or an iBard, you will make a mistake that will cost you the loss of your money. If you buy an iPhone, download apps and randomly click on links, it won't help you that your phone costs $1,000 or that the operating system is more secure.
There are several options and open source wallets on Android, it remains only how you use the device and stay away from downloading applications.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: aoluain on March 26, 2023, 11:27:50 AM
As many have said iPhone is more secure but I wouldnt trust it to store a large amount
and for a long period of time.

We are constantly on our phones, installing and removing apps, connected to the internet,
leaving it unattended and what not.

A smartphone wallet IMO is perfect for small amounts for regular transactions but long term
I trust my stand alone hardware wallet.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: ringgo96 on March 26, 2023, 12:26:14 PM
Currently both are still safe for us to use to store bitcoin assets, although IOS is superior but Android is also very widely used by crypto miners, and we must keep sites that are not safe so that we never visit because a lot of malware enters through the site both Android and IOS, then this all depends on the user between the two if it is used properly then there will not be things that we do not want.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: BitMaxz on March 26, 2023, 12:43:54 PM
Same here I don't think IOS is more secure than Android. Look IOS can still be phished and if the IOS is jailbroken it's prawn to any attack such as malware and viruses.
The same goes for Android if it's rooted. I use a Samsung phone until now I didn't experience any attacks all my wallets are separated and installed in the Knox folder which is secured and can be hidden.

Before when steve jobs are alive he said “We take privacy extremely seriously.” but they can't control apps that always ask for data location it all depends on the developer. Meaning there are still apps that can leak your data from your iPhone.


Title: Re: Is stroing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: worldofcoins on March 26, 2023, 01:33:54 PM
It truly depends on the usage. Both OS does not offer better security if the user themselves aren't practising good security habit. There is no guarantee one OS is a way safer place to store compared to others.

Instead of comparing both of these two, learning how to secure any of the smartphones and basic digital security is way better. And do in mind, that security itself is not just about malware and an OS. Both iOS and Android developers surely compete to secure their own systems.

I think iOS provides better security than android, iPhones have been known for better security compared to android phones for a long time.
I tried jailbreaking my iPhone in around 2017 but failed. There was, however a part where I was able to install apps by approving the developer but I'm uncertain if it's called jailbreaking but in the end I had the right to manually verifying the developer rather than it being automatically verifying itself.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: posi on March 26, 2023, 02:04:16 PM
As many have said iPhone is more secure but I wouldnt trust it to store a large amount
and for a long period of time.

We are constantly on our phones, installing and removing apps, connected to the internet,
leaving it unattended and what not.

A smartphone wallet IMO is perfect for small amounts for regular transactions but long term
I trust my stand alone hardware wallet.

Of course, hardware wallets are the safest, no one denies that.

But when comparing iPhone with Android, I will also agree that IP is more secure, I am a user of both, and I decided to stop at iPhone. And a more secure iPhone doesn't mean your assets stored on it will be safe, much of it depends on how you use and take care of it. Even hardware wallets can't guarantee the security of your assets if you don't know how to safely store your private keys. 90% of safety depends on our behavior, how we maintain it.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 26, 2023, 02:31:13 PM
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That's true, IOS has better security layers than android, well both operating systems are open source, and even then IOS is more secure why? because they develop their own software and hardware components advantage of this is whenever firmware has to be updated, it is updated under the watch of IOS.

The big reasons for comptonization are, unknown installation of spammy apps by Android, which are present in bulk on the google app store, and developing those apps is not that tough for newbies while it takes time to develop spammy IOS apps, well let's say one has made that app then it is almost not possible to publish them on IOS app Store because there policy and security checks are strict then Android. This enhances security by eliminating the availability of spammy apps in bulk containing malicious codes that could extract your data.

So IOS is way more secure and reliable to store your assets in wallets. Note*(you may ask if IOS is not open source I know it's not open source for the public but for authorities, why i mentioned it because, at the start, it was not open source for authorities, but back in time when Huawei refuses to take the blame of stealing data of there users and refuses to give evidence they were asked to provide and google banned their services, same as this case, IOS was also asked to show their codes and the way they work to confirm that they are not stealing data.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Obari on March 26, 2023, 02:35:08 PM
I think personally that both iOS and Android are both the same in terms of security and instead of buying an iphone just fr the sake of storing your Bitcoin, then it will be better you rather use the money to buy a hard ware wallet like ledger, I'm not making any recommendations but rather just an example.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that if you follow all the safety precautions, with regards to Bitcoin safety like ensuring 2 Factor verification, keeping your seed phrase save and secure and if you do so, it will go a very long way to keep you safe and secure.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: DaveF on March 26, 2023, 02:37:08 PM
How about neither:

https://thehackernews.com/2023/02/apple-warns-of-3-new-vulnerabilities.html
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/18/apple-security-flaw-hack-iphone-ipad-macs

Phones are HOT wallets, by definition ANY wallet on an internet connected device is not safe.
Never EVER store more funds in a hot wallet then you can afford to loose.

Hiding behind 'Apple is better then Android' is disingenuous at best.
Separate hardware wallet that is stored securely someplace.

Otherwise you are just asking to loose your coins.

-Dave


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Lorence.xD on March 26, 2023, 02:40:10 PM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.


It's true that people have different phone devices which is IOS and Android but we can say that IOS has a better app installment due to it has authentic apps than androids where you can't fake an app. False advertisement whenever you click them it can cause your phone to get hacked and drain your assets so from observation IOS has a lot more safety than Androids. Even still turning on the pop ads block your phone can still be prone to a virus.

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Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?

Let's be honest when it comes to storage both is the best. When it comes to phone features Android is the better but we're talking about the safety and security of our assets so IOS is better when engaging to transactions, investing and trading.




Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: ilovealtcoins on March 26, 2023, 02:42:23 PM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.

Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?

Note: We know hardware wallets are the best alternative but here we are discussing about Bitcoin is more secure in iOS or in an Andriod based phone.

iPhones are completely superior to Android phones in terms of both hardware and software, all of which are far more secure, and that's what sets all phones apart today. I am also using an iPhone and can say it pleases me in every way. But to use it to store bitcoins, I think it's still not safe, nothing is more secure than a hardware wallet or a wallet without a network connection.


Title: Re: Is stroing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Findingnemo on March 26, 2023, 03:02:28 PM
Any device which is connected to internet has the chance of getting infected by malicious links, so if you're installed a crypto wallet into an IOS or Android can be hijacked by someone via internet itself. Comparatively IOS is better in terms of providing privacy however there is no 100% assurance that we will be safe all the time so never connect your primary wallet into a mobile device.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Bananington on March 26, 2023, 03:03:38 PM
Note: We know hardware wallets are the best alternative but here we are discussing about Bitcoin is more secure in iOS or in an Andriod based phone.
Your personal consciousness concerning securing your bitcoins has more to do with you than to do with the kind of devices you use. Yes IOS may be offer more security than the android devices, but with a poor habit concerning keeping your bitcoins safe, your bitcoins still remain in danger of loss or theft. IOS can improve your security, but personally you have to find out how people who have their bitcoins kept on their mobile phone for years have been able to do so successfully with loss. Good safety practices and precautionary methods will be effective no matter the device you use. If you use an android device, find out how people who are into bitcoins and have android devices have been able to survive, If you use an IOS, also do the same and do not just assume that because you use an Iphone, that you are safe.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: kelechi on March 26, 2023, 03:10:39 PM
Doesn't matter the os of the phone, the main thing is what app are you using. Personally I use Ownr wallet on my android phone never had any problems with it


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Smartprofit on March 26, 2023, 05:30:26 PM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.

Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?

Note: We know hardware wallets are the best alternative but here we are discussing about Bitcoin is more secure in iOS or in an Andriod based phone.

Strictly speaking, you do not store your Bitcoins in your wallets.  Wallets are just software interfaces for interacting with the Bitcoin blockchain. 

Wallets are also used to manage your public and private keys.... 

Yes, there is a well-reasoned opinion that Android wallets are more secure than IOS wallets. 

This is due to the fact that the IOS mobile operating system is adapted and optimized for a limited number of devices, while the Android operating system is used on a huge number of devices manufactured by a huge number of different manufacturers. 

At the same time, any mobile operating system is considered safer than a stationary operating system for Windows computers and laptops. 

This is due to the underlying architecture of smartphones - in mobile operating systems, all applications run in an isolated software environment (this is the initial condition).


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: so98nn on March 26, 2023, 05:39:14 PM
I am using both of them. However I am keeping most of them on my android tbh. The reason is simple, I’m using iPhone for daily routine while the android on which I store bitcoins has got mycelium wallet. Now, thing is I only turn on the device when I need to trade those particular bitcoins and nothing can really hack into it. Since I’m keeping that device as plain as I could. For example, no installing of any sort of app, no internet surfing and all it has mycelium and it only connects when I have to use that app. This makes it even stronger. While I’m using iPhone everyday and might be downloading and surfing from unknown sites I’m keeping bitcoins away from it. However, I know one thing for sure as far as antimalware is considered, iPhone stands good chance.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: panganib999 on March 26, 2023, 06:02:18 PM
Since they are very much connected to the same internet, there's really no difference in security between the two. Both can easily be hacked and be remotely-accessed with relative ease. Plus as a matter of fact, android is catching up with apple's security nowadays. Whatever IOS has, Android can offer. Face ID? Here's Face Unlock! Fingerprint Scanner? Sure thing! Oh, a database where you can store your user data and access it from another device using a simple user/pass security? Xiaomi, Samsung, Huawei, and practically every major forerunners in the Smartphone industry has it. So in the case of using your iPhone as a hard wallet coz "it's more secure than an Android" you might wanna think twice. Better to use a dedicated cold wallet instead!


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: deathcode on March 26, 2023, 07:08:48 PM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.

Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?

Note: We know hardware wallets are the best alternative but here we are discussing about Bitcoin is more secure in iOS or in an Andriod based phone.

In my opinion, for security and privacy issues, iOS is certainly superior to Android. I don't know, but in my opinion, if we store our all Bitcoins in IOS or Android wallets, they are both not optimal to say they are safe.
I think that the security of our Bitcoin assets will be maximized and effective if we store most of our Bitcoin assets in a hard wallet, and only a small portion we store on our IOS or Android devices.
Both IOS and Android are still connected directly to internet access and are classified as hot wallets. I say it's not safe because I always think that scammers are smarter and always have various ways to steal or hack our Bitcoin assets as long as the wallet we use has internet access.
Especially while we use IOS or Android every day to surf the internet, there will always be loopholes for scammers to hack and steal our assets.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: South Park on March 26, 2023, 07:44:09 PM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.

Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?

Note: We know hardware wallets are the best alternative but here we are discussing about Bitcoin is more secure in iOS or in an Andriod based phone.
At least to me it is simply a poor practice to use your phone as your main wallet, even if you have the private keys and in this way those wallets are better than online wallets, at then end of the day we are talking about a hot wallet that is always connected to the internet, which gives hackers too many chances to steal your coins, so for anyone that is thinking on improving the security of their coins without too much effort it is way better to just install a wallet in an old computer that is only online when you are about to make a transaction.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 26, 2023, 07:50:05 PM
The type of device you use to store your cryptocurrency is irrelevant; what truly matters is how well you secure your seeds or private keys. It's imperative that you protect your phone from malware attacks. Interestingly, iPhones are considered harder to attack than Android devices due to Apple's strict app approval process. Unlike Android, where apps can be uploaded and approved quickly, Apple has more rigorous standards. Thus, if you have a choice between an iPhone and an Android device for storing your cryptocurrency, it would be wiser to choose an iPhone.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: danadc on March 26, 2023, 08:45:22 PM
I have my own Wallet on my phone, but I don't have it with a lot of balance, I have about 10usd in bitcoin, and I have it as an emergency measure, I know a friend who was eating at an ice cream parlor and when she left, they robbed her, among the Things that were stolen was her phone and she lost the private key and everything she had there, so these things can happen and I would be very angry if something like that happened, apart from that she did not store her private key elsewhere and she had 200usd, the key He had it privately in his email and he does not remember his email password, things got complicated for him.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: coolcoinz on March 26, 2023, 08:56:16 PM
iOS is safer, like it is also safe to have your wallet on a Mac device. This is because there are simply more viruses that focus on more popular systems. Even if it is not the topic you should consider storing your bitcoins on a paper wallet which is free and very secure.

It is, but this is like choosing between drinking vodka or drinking beer. You will eventually get drunk, just that vodka will most likely take you down faster, but it also depends on the way you drink.
An apple phone might be less exposed because there's simply more malware being targeted at android users, but holding bitcoin on a phone is a bad idea, regardless of the manufacturer.

You could say that windows is more dangerous to use than iOS and linux is the safest, but that doesn't mean linux users aren't getting hacked. It all comes down to how you use your computer.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: maydna on March 26, 2023, 10:08:32 PM
It depends on how you can secure each tool. Even if it's an iPhone or Android phone, if you can't secure it, it can still be hacked by someone else. This is how we can keep our iPhones and Android phones from being hacked so that it remains entirely our responsibility.

One way to guard against this is to be careful how you install any app and always make sure it's safe. If possible, we can use the iPhone and Android phones only to store bitcoins or altcoins on the phone and not for our daily use. So it will be safer.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Nheer on March 26, 2023, 10:48:53 PM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.

Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?


Android devices are easy targets for malicious software, and iOS devices may offer more security against malware, but in my opinion, keeping your cryptocurrency in wallets on these devices carries the same risk since they're both connected to the internet and as such, neither of them is secure enough. It has been suggested not to store your cryptocurrency or any sensitive data that will lead to your crypto assets online because people are smart enough to figure out how to access anything online.



is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?


Whichever one you choose to utilize to store your cryptocurrency doesn't really matter in my opinion, you just need to be extra careful. I advise against using these systems to keep a significant quantity of assets.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: DoverDoane on March 27, 2023, 03:30:35 AM
iOS is stated to be secure than Android as there is limited number of applications available for iOS than Android. For Android quite often we can see list of applications creating security issues and requested from developers team to remove from the smartphones for better security of the device. Non custodial wallet on mobile devices seems to be secure and for better security I prefer to have separate smartphone which have got only the wallets application. Only for transaction purpose I connect it to internet, rest of the time the smartphone will be offline.

For iOS security it's better than Android and this is an old story that can't be denied, it would be safer if you had a Crypto wallet like bitcoint on the iPhone because it's safer with minimal risk of hacking, not all applications can enter via iOS compared to Android which can sometimes damage the system from as a result of third-party applications that are installed automatically, but again it all depends on the user.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: kotajikikox on March 27, 2023, 04:05:02 AM
I am an Iphone user though I also have android solely uses for extra internet using because I know that Iphone security is more effective comparing to android phones but this does not mean I can rely my funds and security in those phones instead like what you have mentioned? it is safer to have separate off line wallet for safest storing of your funds.

but it is good to ask this here because we also knew that there are only few that can afford buying hardware wallets than their free to install online wallet.

I have my own Wallet on my phone, but I don't have it with a lot of balance, I have about 10usd in bitcoin, and I have it as an emergency measure,

I also have some funds and of course at least 100 dollars and up for some personal using or emergency crypto buying and paying.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: leonair on March 27, 2023, 04:10:10 AM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.
Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?
Note: We know hardware wallets are the best alternative but here we are discussing about Bitcoin is more secure in iOS or in an Andriod based phone.
Both Android and iOS wallets are connected to the internet so it cannot be said that IOS mobile wallet is more secure than Android. iOS will provide you security for your offline documents but since the wallet is internet based.  And since the entire fund's safety depends on a private key, you must first ensure that your private key is stored in a secure location. And if your private key is stored well and securely then your crypto will be safely stored everywhere, no matter if it's Android or iOS.

iOS is stated to be secure than Android as there is limited number of applications available for iOS than Android. For Android quite often we can see list of applications creating security issues and requested from developers team to remove from the smartphones for better security of the device. Non custodial wallet on mobile devices seems to be secure and for better security I prefer to have separate smartphone which have got only the wallets application. Only for transaction purpose I connect it to internet, rest of the time the smartphone will be offline.

For iOS security it's better than Android and this is an old story that can't be denied, it would be safer if you had a Crypto wallet like bitcoint on the iPhone because it's safer with minimal risk of hacking, not all applications can enter via iOS compared to Android which can sometimes damage the system from as a result of third-party applications that are installed automatically, but again it all depends on the user.
IOS will provide security that iPhone will not be easily hacked but iphone will never provide security that your private key will be safe if you don't keep it safe. And if someone gets someone's private key then of course he can transfer all the funds in that wallet  Then it doesn't matter whether the wallet is on iPhone or Android.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: StarKay on March 27, 2023, 04:32:01 AM
You already stated that Cold storage is the best for Bitcoin, the point of this discussion is to point out which one of Android or iPhone is better secure for Bitcoin storage.

Although based on statistics it is very easy to say that iPhone is more secure but I think the device is as secure as the user behaviour. A security conscious Android phone user won't have a problem with his stored Bitcoin and a carefree iPhone user will end up being exposed to thieves.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 27, 2023, 08:30:44 AM
I don't know which one is the best to use and therefore i have raised a question here  :)
Sorry if it's not clear for you, what I meant the best one is hardware wallet where you was mention it before, either you use iOS or android, you still carry a same risk if you use it for your daily driver and connected with internet.

I know a friend who was eating at an ice cream parlor and when she left, they robbed her, among the Things that were stolen was her phone and she lost the private key and everything she had there, so these things can happen and I would be very angry if something like that happened, apart from that she did not store her private key elsewhere and she had 200usd, the key He had it privately in his email and he does not remember his email password, things got complicated for him.
Look, your friend have done 3 mistakes here for being careless.
1. She left her phone.
2. Not create any back up in other medias.
3. Storing her back up on email.

She need to learn how to prepare at the worst case since she was taking easy with anything.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: bakasabo on March 27, 2023, 08:46:22 AM
It depends on how you can secure each tool. Even if it's an iPhone or Android phone, if you can't secure it, it can still be hacked by someone else. This is how we can keep our iPhones and Android phones from being hacked so that it remains entirely our responsibility.

One way to guard against this is to be careful how you install any app and always make sure it's safe. If possible, we can use the iPhone and Android phones only to store bitcoins or altcoins on the phone and not for our daily use. So it will be safer.

Never heard that iOS devices has been hacker before. Never heard that if iOS device is locked, then someone was able to unlock it and get inside. Some geeks only managed to reset or completely erase information on iOS devices in the past (the era of jailbreaks). Yet again, that info can not be restored later, when you set previously erased device as a new. The only way to steal something from iPhone, is if its owner store private keys and passwords in Files>iCloud drive. Yet again, those files can be accessed from infected PC, so this is not a direct iPhone hack.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: DaveF on April 08, 2023, 03:07:13 PM
Be aware that there are 2 exploits in the wild now for iPhones / iPads that are being actively exploited that give the hacker they are both a sandbox escape and a privilege escalation so make sure you are running the latest updates that Apple just pushed out over the last day or so:

https://www.securityweek.com/apple-ships-urgent-ios-patch-for-newly-exploited-zero-days/

Phones / anything connected to the internet is NOT secure. And you should only store money that you can afford to lose in a phone. Since they keep finding vulnerabilities.

PCs are not better, and I don't care what OS you use.

Cold storage only for any real funds.

-Dave


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: FrozenBit on April 08, 2023, 03:10:43 PM
I understand that information security doesn't just depend on what operating system the phone is on, consider many different factors, such as the overall security of the device, performance, features and price. iPhones and Android phones each have their own advantages and disadvantages, and making the best decision should be based on your own needs. n terms of security, the iPhone has a proven environment and is heavily protected by Apple. However, Android phones also have premium security features and a malware monitoring ecosystem, but this depends on the manufacturer. You can learn more about security and choose your device carefully. You should consider other phone features, such as screen size, performance, hard drive, battery, and other features relevant to your usage needs. You should also consider the price of each device and choose the best one that fits your budget.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: SatoPrincess on April 08, 2023, 08:34:10 PM
Generally it’s been said that iOS devices are more secure than android. As for which is better for hodling bitcoins, I would chose android over iOS because android supports Electrum wallet. Apple also has some good wallets like Blue wallet but I prefer using Electrum as it offers users the option of cold storage. Your security really depends on how you manage your device, and how you store your seed phrase.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: borovichok on April 09, 2023, 02:57:16 AM
Generally it’s been said that iOS devices are more secure than android. As for which is better for hodling bitcoins, I would chose android over iOS because android supports Electrum wallet. Apple also has some good wallets like Blue wallet but I prefer using Electrum as it offers users the option of cold storage. Your security really depends on how you manage your device, and how you store your seed phrase.
A debate that will never slide through because everyone have their personal opinion on how they view things. From my perspective, IOS are weigh better and faster than android phones, the only thing android phones are good at is long life span of battery. Furthermore for storing Bitcoins, I'm sticking with android phones, they exhibit Electrum strong firewall and they're mostly used for storage of coins. It's safer out there when one is confident about the circulation of coins in his portfolio. Managing our devices is our top priority, most of our sources of incomes are from our phones, been working entirelessly inother to get safer ways to discreet my 12 phrases.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: mich on April 09, 2023, 04:15:56 AM
Well I do not store any of my bitcoin on mobile devices. I just think this is too risky for being a victim of a hacker or of some other type of attack.
For us to be safe with our bitcoin just use a hardware wallet. This way no one can ever have access to it. And unlike a mobile device that you can lose this will not happen with hard wallet if you store it in a safe place.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: jacktheking on April 09, 2023, 11:07:17 AM
Both operating systems have pros and cons. I'm an Android user and I once stored all my Bitcoin portfolio on the device. I have never been hacked before. And that's because I practice common senses. User is the #1 reason for security breaches. To answer your question, despite being a loyal Android user, I'd say iOS has better security. As the OS is closed source, hence any vulnerability is hard to discover.


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: BVeyron on April 10, 2023, 01:51:49 PM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.

Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?

Note: We know hardware wallets are the best alternative but here we are discussing about Bitcoin is more secure in iOS or in an Andriod based phone.

I suppose it depends on the other soft you use: if you overcome standard protection settings in order to install and launch nonofficial programs, then neither Android nor ios are secure enough. And if using a phone only in standard way while having a wallet, then its pretty the same. And what's the best option - it's to have multiple phones with multiple wallets (not multiple phones with the same wallet, and not one phone with multiple wallets).


Title: Re: Is storing bitcoin is more secure in iPhone than in an Andriod phone
Post by: Freddie Boyer on April 10, 2023, 03:29:10 PM
Most of us keep our bitcoin and crypto in wallets stored in either iPhone or Andriod phones. Even we have an exchanges accounts app on our mobile phones.

Since,  iOS offer better security and low chance of malwares etc, is it better to buy an iphone to store our crypto or even an Andriod phone is enough for this purpose?

Yes, As we know most of us store cryptocurrency in wallets stored on mobile devices and With iOS offering better security features and lower possibility of malware, Well the question arises whether one should buy iPhone to store their crypto or if android phone enough for this??

While it's true that iOS devices are generally considered more secure due to the closed source operating system and strict app store policies. Android-based smartphones have also proven to be more secure due to the use of an open-source operating system and the ability for users to change security settings.

I think the security of Bitcoin storage ultimately depends on the individual behavior of users and the precautions they take and iOS and Android devices offer encryption features that can be leveraged to protect sensitive data, such as cryptocurrency wallets. Additionally, using a reputable wallet provider, enabling two-factor authentication, and keeping your device's operating system and apps up to date with the latest security patches are important steps in securing your Bitcoins.