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Economy => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: elevates on April 04, 2023, 01:49:14 PM



Title: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: elevates on April 04, 2023, 01:49:14 PM
After the pandemic, almost every Crypto casino has gained a lot of user base. As they have offered an alternative way to engage in online gambling. However, I wonder if they have been able to churn customers who are used to traditional online fiat casinos.

As per my understanding, crypto casinos have offered benefits that some fiat-based casinos cannot match. Another reason is cryptocurrency provides faster transactions and a level of privacy. Thinking about the regulatory environment surrounding cryptocurrency globally. I think a lot of crypto casinos are still churning existing users of other crypto casinos.

Some of these features can be appealing. If a user is looking for a more seamless and secure gambling experience. Whereas as per my understanding, not all players are comfortable using cryptocurrency. One reason, that I could think about is that cryptocurrency is still a relatively new technology & it might be the primary reason some players are hesitant to try them out.

Another reason is strict regulations on Crypto Casinos. That is one of the primary reasons why I think churning of fiat casinos user is not able to attract new users and retain old customers.

There are many more issues that I believe have hampered the churning of a traditional user to a crypto gambler. But the number one issue as per my research is individual preferences and circumstances.

I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: DaveF on April 04, 2023, 02:07:38 PM
I think a lot of the crypto casinos grew was because of the fact that you can get funds in and out of them easier then with traditional fiat ones.
You don't have to worry about your bank or whatever service you need to use to move the money.
There are a lot more ways to convert fiat to crypto and back then get money from your bank to an online casino.

Even in places where it is 100% state licensed and regulated some banks still do not allow those kinds of transactions. You can go to an ATM in a physical casino and take out to your daily limit, but move $50 to Caesars online through ACH and you get an account hold...

-Dave


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Oshosondy on April 04, 2023, 02:09:26 PM
I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?
All I know is that if someone is a crypto lover and they like gambling, people always prefer to try something out. Because of that, they may try crypto casino and check how it is. If they see somethings about crypto gambling site better than fiat, like fast deposit and withdrawal, they may turn to crypto gambling sites. When I was accessing bet365, the withdraw of money take me more than 2 weeks, while crypto casinos take just within some minutes.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: swogerino on April 04, 2023, 02:17:29 PM
They have converted a lot of traditional FIAT users and those users are people who love to try new things and technologies and are what we call tech-savvy users so they know their way around Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.They immediately can spot the benefit of using crypto compared to FIAT as it gives you a level of privacy you cannot find in the FIAT ones,in there you have to pass through the third party to add money to your account which in this case 99% of the cases is the bank or digital money processors like Paypal which still passes through your bank and 1% not that common nowadays is Western Union.

Now these benefits compared to a huge amount of slot providers and games as crypto casinos offer more than normal ones,as I rarely have seen the same providers in bet365 and crypto ones when it comes to slot gaming,the puzzle is complete as why this boom of increased users.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: rhomelmabini on April 04, 2023, 02:33:54 PM
Another reason is strict regulations on Crypto Casinos. That is one of the primary reasons why I think churning of fiat casinos user is not able to attract new users and retain old customers.
I think this is the reason especially when the Luna, FTX, etc scenarios happened, more strict compliance in crypto and for sure fiat customers will try to avoid any that may involve crypto. I'd rather be on the safe side of things rather than risking it on an unregulated environment. If fiat casinos still works and just not that too much of a hassle, I'd pick that one too. Furthermore, I think adoption on crypto casinos are way more growing considering it's a new market.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: avikz on April 04, 2023, 02:47:16 PM
I believe the main reason why crypto casinos grew is that they were able to churn customers from fiat based casinos. Many customers do not like to go through detailed KYC procedure that is mandatory in fiat based casinos. Also a lot of people do not want to reveal their gambling habits to their banks and credit card providers. Crypto casinos provided a way out of those procedures which helped their business to grow even after the pandemic time. Hope this trend continues.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Yogee on April 04, 2023, 02:57:03 PM
We don't have enough information to conclude but at least we can see some celebrities or influencers visibly use crypto gambling platforms like Drake.

Regulations on fiat casinos are far more strict when compared to crypo casinos so that can be a good reason to switch. It could also be a reason to avoid if a gambler wants more protection in case of disputes stemming from alleged fraudulent casino policies.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: YOSHIE on April 04, 2023, 03:07:49 PM
I wonder if they have been able to churn customers who are used to traditional online fiat casinos.
Sure, that can be proven from friends around us, for example my friend, a year or two ago they didn't trust crypto-based gambling sites, after trying it turns out that online crypto gambling is easier and faster in terms of withdrawals and deposits, now 80% of the gambling addicts near me have switched to the churn route and stopped using fiat casino services.

Of course, over time the online gambling industry, which used to use fiat, has switched to using crypto payment methods, this is all due to the churn rate of customers who stop and choose crypto gambling sites and make them top services for gambling.

If you look at the current online crypto gambling companies, it is easy for them to attract fiat casino customers, this is because users who gamble already understand the uses of crypto and the reasons as I said above.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: ralle14 on April 04, 2023, 03:42:08 PM
I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?
I agree, not all gamblers are willing to change the way they gamble and will prefer to stay at the current casino they're using. With the current aggressive marketing that some crypto casinos are still currently doing I still think they'll continue to convert more users in the future.

Then again there are crypto casinos that allow you to play with a fiat balance despite using crypto to deposit and withdraw so now it's becoming more easy for fiat gamblers to switch and try out crypto casinos.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Yatsan on April 04, 2023, 03:50:13 PM
Possible but not all fiat gamblers would do so. Those gamblers which could be encouraged to be involved in this industry are more likely those who have restrictions of this activity on their country and those who wants to avoid taxes because of their huge bets. However, those who won't be persuaded are more likely the ones who plays it safe; using fiat would atleast save them from the chance of losing to both market price volatility of cryptocurrencies and losing to the game itself, like a double bet. But in reality, a player could engage to either land based or online platforms as long as he would be allowed by accessibility so there's really no need to convince players; for sure they know how risk works.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: kryptqnick on April 04, 2023, 04:01:15 PM
I believe that using crypto casinos is more convenient. You don't need to rely on your bank and how it feels about you transferring money to or from a casino; you can often remain anonymous; you can place bets directly in cryptos, thus actually using cryptos without selling them. Maybe some prefer fiat online casinos because they don't really use cryptos and don't want to get into knowing how to use them. Another thing might be that people feel online casinos are more official, more legit. Which isn't always the case, of course, as many crypto casinos have official licences and everything, but this line of thought can be a result of a general misconception that cryptos are used for shady purposes.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: nicolas1979 on April 04, 2023, 04:09:24 PM
I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?

Addiction to online gambling is like drug addiction. It's hard for someone to leave it if it's started. If someone has never done it, it would be better not to try. When we gamble, we hope for a great fortune. If we gamble, for the first time the habit wins. Furthermore, if every $100 deposit will fail, we will continue to make deposits, it will make our emotions increase. Even if we have spent $ 1000, and when we win $ 500, then we will forget about the previous failure.
I am a game lover, and almost all the games I know I will play, whether they are money-making or not. So I understand very well about the game. Now the slot games got me hooked. lol


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on April 04, 2023, 04:32:31 PM
It's true that after the Covid19 pandemic in 2020, there was a massive rise in the adoption of cryptocurrencies, most especially "Bitcoin" which later rose to 425 million global crypto owners before the end of 2022 (as you can see at the image below) since it was new, volatile of which many who invested in it earlier have had huge profits, and yet offering the user the ability for ones be in charge of their funds through its decentralized blockchain technology. So that gave more advantage to casinos who later adopted Bitcoin for deposit and withdrawal, as it was new in the gambling industry and many people were eager to test and see how it works, which I don't think whoever tested it never went back into using fiat gambling anymore, as crypto offers the best comfort.

https://imgvb.com/images/2023/04/05/bb5b13baedae69de04ab6883f1f63f4f.png
Source: crypto.com


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: bittraffic on April 04, 2023, 04:35:30 PM
The gamblers who are pretty much concerned about their privacy probably are moving to crypto during the covid days, it was also the time when the BTC bull run was happening. The new users who were getting rich thru the pump of memecoins started gambling in crypto casinos, they were new to crypto and most probably from fiat-based casinos too. Every bull run fiat people come to crypto and invest in a few altcoins and get used to crypto.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: piebeyb on April 04, 2023, 05:48:55 PM
I'm sure casinos are currently able to make fiat casino lovers feel comfortable with online crypto casinos, because of course there are many conveniences for playing online casinos for all people, both young and old, moreover using crypto is much safer than using fiat casinos and playing directly in a land based casino that looks old fashioned. but it all comes back to gamblers, but almost most people are used to playing crypto casinos online since covid until now  ;)


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on April 04, 2023, 05:59:34 PM
This goes back to their belief in crypto in my opinion. We know that now not everyone agrees with crypto, even though the growth of trust in crypto is very fast nowadays. How is it possible that people who don't believe in crypto will gamble with crypto? that's the question. So before we talk about traditional gamblers who use fiat will switch to gambling using crypto, their trust in crypto itself must be formed first. It's like 2 sides that can't be separated, I'm sure at first most gamblers who use ccrypto now are also gamblers who used fiat before. But once they know and believe in crypto they finally move away from fiat.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Zlantann on April 04, 2023, 06:24:49 PM
I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?


The level of cryptocurrency awareness in a particular country will also affect the rate by which traditional online gamblers will be attracted to crypto casinos. Most people are not even aware of a currency called crypto. Some people are not dynamic and they also repel innovation. Most people will never want to try something new so they prefer to remain with fiat gambling. Most gamblers in my area are not well educated so most of them might not be willing to learn about the crypto industry. The government's stance on cryptocurrency is another determining factor. If the government is friendly with cryptocurrency, more fiat gamblers will move to crypto casinos.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Fortify on April 04, 2023, 07:23:07 PM
After the pandemic, almost every Crypto casino has gained a lot of user base. As they have offered an alternative way to engage in online gambling. However, I wonder if they have been able to churn customers who are used to traditional online fiat casinos.

As per my understanding, crypto casinos have offered benefits that some fiat-based casinos cannot match. Another reason is cryptocurrency provides faster transactions and a level of privacy. Thinking about the regulatory environment surrounding cryptocurrency globally. I think a lot of crypto casinos are still churning existing users of other crypto casinos.

Some of these features can be appealing. If a user is looking for a more seamless and secure gambling experience. Whereas as per my understanding, not all players are comfortable using cryptocurrency. One reason, that I could think about is that cryptocurrency is still a relatively new technology & it might be the primary reason some players are hesitant to try them out.

Another reason is strict regulations on Crypto Casinos. That is one of the primary reasons why I think churning of fiat casinos user is not able to attract new users and retain old customers.

There are many more issues that I believe have hampered the churning of a traditional user to a crypto gambler. But the number one issue as per my research is individual preferences and circumstances.

I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?


I can predict in the very near future that a lot of the existing cryptocurrency casino and sportbooks are going to increasingly pivot towards fiat currency users. It makes ultimate sense really, because they are coming under a lot of pressure to perform KYC processes on their users now and not having KYC was one of the primary distinguishing factors for these companies to stick with cryptocurrency for so long. They will likely start hooking up with mainstream payment processors to facilitate these transactions more easily and we do see a few of them already advertising in big venues like sponsoring major football teams - so they've already got huge credibility in that department.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: blockman on April 04, 2023, 07:38:23 PM
A traditional gambler is indeed hard to change what he's got used to. There will be a time that he'll find a newer one for him to enjoy gambling.
But I'll just let them gamble where they are happy and that's okay. If they're happier and more satisfied doing all their stuff in the traditional casinos, that's fine.
While we're here and happy gambling with the crypto casinos, they'll not also worry and touch us. They'll learn it eventually as many have probably heard something good about crypto and crypto casinos already.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: coolcoinz on April 04, 2023, 08:15:35 PM
I feel like they may not be getting old timers who used to play in Vegas in the 80s and 90s, but they are definitely getting the young people, many of whom never visited a physical casino. These people are a new group of players, ones that often work from home and enjoy the digital realm.


It's true that after the Covid19 pandemic in 2020, there was a massive rise in the adoption of cryptocurrencies, most especially "Bitcoin" which later rose to 425 million global crypto owners before the end of 2022 (as you can see at the image below) since it was new, volatile of which many who invested in it earlier have had huge profits, and yet offering the user the ability for ones be in charge of their funds through its decentralized blockchain technology. So that gave more advantage to casinos who later adopted Bitcoin for deposit and withdrawal, as it was new in the gambling industry and many people were eager to test and see how it works, which I don't think whoever tested it never went back into using fiat gambling anymore, as crypto offers the best comfort.

https://imgvb.com/images/2023/04/05/bb5b13baedae69de04ab6883f1f63f4f.png
Source: crypto.com

I like how this graph is made to look appealing. The bottom line should be set to 0 scale if we wanted to be fair and show things as they really are. If we were at 0, between 306 and 425 we/d have visually only 30% increase, but the way they set 0 at 300, we're looking at the same 30% increase, but the bars look like they grew from 0 to 400 million in a year :D


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Hispo on April 04, 2023, 08:54:39 PM
In general I feel that once people learn how to use cryptocurrency and realize the liberties they offer, it is hard to go back to FIAT, specially if we are talking about people who does not have access to reliable payment processors and cards.

So, I would say that crypto casinos still need to find new ways to appeal towards FIAT gambler who may believe they do not need to buy a satoshi in their whole lifes. I would personally go with the privacy features, the money management (helps to avoid credit card abuse) and the low transaction fees (in the most of the chains). It would be a long term advertisement project, in my opinion.



Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Slow death on April 04, 2023, 09:04:36 PM
crypto casinos had a lot of growth because they attracted the public that likes anonymity and privacy, people could play all day long, with cryptocurrencies people easily go to their wallets and deposit money in casinos without having to receive a call from a bank to ask questions about the purpose of money, use crypto casinos and something very advantageous, people broke the barriers of bureaucracy, at least it was like that in the past, but governments as always managed to take away this facility that people had in the past and implemented KYC, which in practice meant that crypto casinos no longer had much difference with fiat casinos

going to the bank to deposit money has a lot of bureaucracy, you have to go through KYC, even if it is a light KYC, then deposit money in the fiat casino using the bank account, it does not create a headache, the problem arises when the person wins money in the casino and withdraws the money to the bank, if the amount of money is too high, the bank will call the person to justify the origin of the money, this becomes a headache especially for people who live in countries where the government has set limits on amounts of money that people can play in casinos, by that I mean that crypto casinos that even despite the KYC are still better options than fiat casinos


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: pixie85 on April 04, 2023, 09:20:55 PM
I can't say for sure, but in my opinion they can. Some people go to a physical casino to have fun with friends, the  way they go to a bar and those people will not be easily persuaded. They're not there for the money but rather for fun. It's a social event to them.

On the other hand there are people who play to win and these people will find the comfort of their own home better and more relaxing. People aren't the same and the same can be said about casino patrons. We all have our goals and needs and some of us will like the digital form while others will not. I like it more than crowded fiat casinos.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 04, 2023, 09:52:27 PM
After the pandemic, almost every Crypto casino has gained a lot of user base. As they have offered an alternative way to engage in online gambling. However, I wonder if they have been able to churn customers who are used to traditional online fiat casinos.
If a compulsive gambler was stuck at home and found out that they could gamble online, of course they're going to try and figure out how to do it.

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As per my understanding, crypto casinos have offered benefits that some fiat-based casinos cannot match. Another reason is cryptocurrency provides faster transactions and a level of privacy. Thinking about the regulatory environment surrounding cryptocurrency globally. I think a lot of crypto casinos are still churning existing users of other crypto casinos.
In the beginning there was a certain level of "privacy" offered, but nowdays KYC is everywhere. No more privacy unless you're playing at unlicensed casinos and risking even getting paid.





Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Huppercase on April 04, 2023, 09:53:48 PM
After the pandemic, almost every Crypto casino has gained a lot of user base. As they have offered an alternative way to engage in online gambling. However, I wonder if they have been able to churn customers who are used to traditional online fiat casinos.

As per my understanding, crypto casinos have offered benefits that some fiat-based casinos cannot match. Another reason is cryptocurrency provides faster transactions and a level of privacy. Thinking about the regulatory environment surrounding cryptocurrency globally. I think a lot of crypto casinos are still churning existing users of other crypto casinos.

Some of these features can be appealing. If a user is looking for a more seamless and secure gambling experience. Whereas as per my understanding, not all players are comfortable using cryptocurrency. One reason, that I could think about is that cryptocurrency is still a relatively new technology & it might be the primary reason some players are hesitant to try them out.

Another reason is strict regulations on Crypto Casinos. That is one of the primary reasons why I think churning of fiat casinos user is not able to attract new users and retain old customers.

There are many more issues that I believe have hampered the churning of a traditional user to a crypto gambler. But the number one issue as per my research is individual preferences and circumstances.

I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?


I will take your assumptions as fact because I can't verify some of your information. One of the reasons why I find it unconvincing about some facts is the one you said fiat casinos are unable to attract new users, maybe Globally they don't have the means to have new users since they are limited to only a particular currency but if it is within the country, they will make tons of money because the people of that gave them the license of operation will force their people to use that casino as they are recognized and allow to operate as a monopolistic platform, there is big money in a business that doesn't have a competitor you know.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: arwin100 on April 04, 2023, 10:23:04 PM
After the pandemic, almost every Crypto casino has gained a lot of user base. As they have offered an alternative way to engage in online gambling. However, I wonder if they have been able to churn customers who are used to traditional online fiat casinos.

As per my understanding, crypto casinos have offered benefits that some fiat-based casinos cannot match. Another reason is cryptocurrency provides faster transactions and a level of privacy. Thinking about the regulatory environment surrounding cryptocurrency globally. I think a lot of crypto casinos are still churning existing users of other crypto casinos.

Some of these features can be appealing. If a user is looking for a more seamless and secure gambling experience. Whereas as per my understanding, not all players are comfortable using cryptocurrency. One reason, that I could think about is that cryptocurrency is still a relatively new technology & it might be the primary reason some players are hesitant to try them out.

Another reason is strict regulations on Crypto Casinos. That is one of the primary reasons why I think churning of fiat casinos user is not able to attract new users and retain old customers.

There are many more issues that I believe have hampered the churning of a traditional user to a crypto gambler. But the number one issue as per my research is individual preferences and circumstances.

I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?


I will take your assumptions as fact because I can't verify some of your information. One of the reasons why I find it unconvincing about some facts is the one you said fiat casinos are unable to attract new users, maybe Globally they don't have the means to have new users since they are limited to only a particular currency but if it is within the country, they will make tons of money because the people of that gave them the license of operation will force their people to use that casino as they are recognized and allow to operate as a monopolistic platform, there is big money in a business that doesn't have a competitor you know.

Maybe they are just looking at one perspective and see only the growth of online casino for past years. Crypto casino really grow since gamblers doesn't have a choice but to play online since all of physical casino is close due to many restrictions. But so far looking at current condition where all people is free to go anywhere they want I also see that physical casino is growing and you cannot defeat the experience playing physically than doing it online since the ambiance is really different, also you can meet various people which can add up the excitement going to those places.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Baofeng on April 04, 2023, 10:37:11 PM
I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?

It's just probably the technology that stir away fiat users to crypto based perhaps the reason I can think of is (1), they don't want to change their old habits, (2) much easier for them maybe to deposit their fiat, thru credit or debit cards or even bank accounts, as compare to crypto wherein you need to buy it and then have a wallet for deposit/withdrawal.

But as far as gaming experienced though, it's just the same. Played with fiat based online games and still playing up to this day and nothing change even if I switch to crypto based, it's seamless to me. And as far as KYC goes, fiat based will also asked you that mandated info, same now with crypto based platform. So again, we will have to go to that process as well. And obviously, maybe crypto based casino are being born out of the pandemic and maybe getting good chunk or users and so still, this business will continue to grow and competition getting tough for this online casinos whether fiat/crypto based.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: maydna on April 04, 2023, 10:57:40 PM
During a pandemic, where offline casinos temporarily closed their business and made gamblers confused about finding a place to be still able to play gambling, online casinos grew faster. This is also felt by crypto casinos, which can also develop because many advertisements appear on many sites that advertise crypto casinos. People may get confused when looking at crypto casinos especially about their deposit and withdrawal methods. But after they studied more, they found that crypto casinos provide more privacy to them because they can send funds to casinos via crypto without going through the bank.

It may not be easy for traditional gamblers to switch to online casinos. If they are curious, they will do it and we may already see this bringing about great development for online casinos.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Wakate on April 04, 2023, 11:10:42 PM
In general I feel that once people learn how to use cryptocurrency and realize the liberties they offer, it is hard to go back to FIAT, specially if we are talking about people who does not have access to reliable payment processors and cards.

So, I would say that crypto casinos still need to find new ways to appeal towards FIAT gambler who may believe they do not need to buy a satoshi in their whole lifes. I would personally go with the privacy features, the money management (helps to avoid credit card abuse) and the low transaction fees (in the most of the chains). It would be a long term advertisement project, in my opinion

There are so many benefits in the cryptocurrency world that is why those people that had tested the market successfully with profits would never want to go for fiat again. It is very obvious that crypto has so many opportunities for people to embrace compared to fiat that can nit give us profit by holding or keeping it. As a cryptocurrency investors, we know what we are benefiting from the market and that makes us proud and happy to keep buying and selling to make profits in the market. Very soon when the light circulate many people that had been against cryptocurrency would come and see the light by themselves.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: qwertyup23 on April 04, 2023, 11:21:31 PM
I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?

I think with the pandemic, it bolster and proved that online casinos can be quite effective due to its convenience to the public.

Traditional fiat gambling requires a person to visit a physical casino in order to avail the services. While there are great benefits when you enter such, like getting to enjoy the amenities, etc., no one beats a relaxing casino at the palm of your hand using your respective mobile devices.

Though this may be the case, I definitely agree with you that it all boils down to the preference of a person. There some who enjoy the company of others while gambling in a traditional casino; while there are others who enjoy gambling at their own convenience, time, and at the comfort of their respective homes.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: danherbias07 on April 04, 2023, 11:51:32 PM
But those who had been playing in fiat physical casinos who have cryptocurrencies in their stash might be in online crypto casinos right now. It became easy for them. They can avoid the pandemic and then they are comfortable in their own home.
There may be some gamblers left who prefer the physical ones, but it may depend on what game they are playing.
Just like me, when it comes to poker, I don't like it online. It lacks the mind-reading feature of the game and it's not that fun. So, I would very much like to visit the business where I use to play if ever there will be time.
Back to the question, I say yes, there are many gamblers now who had switched to online gambling and much prefer it today.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Pierre 2 on April 04, 2023, 11:59:15 PM
I think audience/user base of casinos are already changing. In 10-20 years back I am sure many people were skeptical with online casinos and probably preferred physical ones as they are "real experience". Now smart phones dominate our life and former gamblers became older. New generation is more open to internet based services. This directly increased user numbers of online casinos. Especially gen y and gen z are pretty much interested in crypto so I am sure in near future probably like 5-10 years crypto gambling will be dominating that market.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Silberman on April 05, 2023, 12:54:17 AM
I think audience/user base of casinos are already changing. In 10-20 years back I am sure many people were skeptical with online casinos and probably preferred physical ones as they are "real experience". Now smart phones dominate our life and former gamblers became older. New generation is more open to internet based services. This directly increased user numbers of online casinos. Especially gen y and gen z are pretty much interested in crypto so I am sure in near future probably like 5-10 years crypto gambling will be dominating that market.
I also think that smartphones are playing a major role on this, before them we had laptops but even if they were widely available they were still cumbersome to carry around and not as many people used them, smartphones have changed how we communicate with each other in a very small window of time, and this means that the new generations do not find as entertaining gambling at psychical casinos and prefer to do so online through their smartphones, after all they are using them already for a great deal of their daily activities anyway.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Reatim on April 05, 2023, 02:42:59 AM
the increase of gamblers that turns from Fiat casinos to crypto casino increase as there are some factors to consider , of course main is that casino houses are closed while pandemic , and those who are playing Online casino via Fiat/Money had learn about the crypto casino because of the continuous search in internet that let them have good looks about the offerings and bonuses.
and still increasing popularity as many of my friends before that denied me to play with me in crypto are now showing interest and some are already playing.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: len01 on April 05, 2023, 02:47:07 AM
the main reason fiat gamblers are not yet interested in crypto casinos is because if fiat gamblers want to bet in crypto casinos they think it is a little complicated when they want to deposit they have to put money into a third party (exchange) to get crypto and send it to the crypto gambling platform.
whereas fiat casinos are slightly faster than direct bank deposits to fiat casinos.
whereas at this stage crypto casinos are more anonymous for those who like to gamble privately or wish to gamble without the knowledge of the bank/state, unlike fiat casinos which can be traced at any time when the bank or state suspects a particular person of gambling activity.

but this week I tried to give understanding to 3 fiat gamblers who asked about crypto casinos and they were interested in trying and giving a review that it is actually more comfortable to gamble at crypto casinos than fiat.
because on this crypto gambling they can be more anonymous than fiat gamblers who can't be anonymous.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: alegotardo on April 05, 2023, 02:49:32 AM
After the pandemic, almost every Crypto casino has gained a lot of user base. As they have offered an alternative way to engage in online gambling. However, I wonder if they have been able to churn customers who are used to traditional online fiat casinos.

I don't think so.

At the time when the Covid-19 pandemic had started, casinos in general had a significant increase in users.
I'm sure that crypto casinos grew the most and I even believe that initially they may have "stolen" users from fiat casinos.
However, with the rise in popularity of casinos in general, many people who had never played at an online casino before began to participate, both crypto and fiat.

I believe both casinos have benefited from this popularity and surge in user traffic at online casinos.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on April 05, 2023, 03:00:04 AM
What is clear is that cryptocurrency casinos are taking market share away from fiat casinos, as if the former did not exist, business would shift to the latter. However, I think that what the OP is suggesting is unlikely if we are talking about a big transfer, as there are people who only bet in fiat casinos, have never used cryptocurrencies and have a great distrust of them, and these people are not going to switch to crypto casinos, especially not overnight.

I don't think so.

At the time when the Covid-19 pandemic had started, casinos in general had a significant increase in users.
I'm sure that crypto casinos grew the most and I even believe that initially they may have "stolen" users from fiat casinos.
However, with the rise in popularity of casinos in general, many people who had never played at an online casino before began to participate, both crypto and fiat.

I believe both casinos have benefited from this popularity and surge in user traffic at online casinos.

Yes, the point is that with COVID there was a huge increase in online business, and both fiat and crypto casinos benefited from it, so I don't think the OP is right in what he says.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Cantsay on April 05, 2023, 05:57:43 AM
the increase of gamblers that turns from Fiat casinos to crypto casino increase as there are some factors to consider , of course main is that casino houses are closed while pandemic , and those who are playing Online casino via Fiat/Money had learn about the crypto casino because of the continuous search in internet that let them have good looks about the offerings and bonuses.
and still increasing in popularity as many of my friends before that denied me to play with me in crypto are now showing interest and some are already playing.

Playing with fiat online and playing with crypto in an online casino feels the same to me, the only difference is that for the fiat they might be some restrictions because you are only allowed to use the currency of that country and convert to a different currency just so that you can access a different casino that is not in your country might seem like a lot of work to them. But with crypto, they can access they have the opportunity to access the casino globally and not be restricted since they now dealing with crypto and that's what most of them figured out and that also led to the increase in popularity.
Amidst all this adoption or people migrating to crypto-based casinos, we still have a lot of people out there that still won't use crypto-based casinos even if they are given free coins to just try them out.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 05, 2023, 05:59:57 AM
I think there are a lot of gamblers from Brick n mortar casinos that are shifting to online gambling, just because it is so convenient to play at home or even on their mobile phones.

The older generation go to casinos for other reasons, mostly to socialize and to burn their time and a lot of them are not very technologically inclined, so the transition might never happen for them.

So, yes..... there are a global shift to online gambling and you can see that in the amount of Brick n mortar casinos that are moving online now.  ;)


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Rruchi man on April 05, 2023, 06:34:19 AM
I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?
I think it is possible for someone who is already used to online gambling even if it is the traditional one to switch to gambling with crypto on cryptocurrency casinos. The person is already used to gambling digitally so it won't be as difficult as someone who knows nothing about gambling digitally and is only used to grambling offline to suddenly begin to use crypto to gamble in crypto casinos.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: noorman0 on April 05, 2023, 06:56:17 AM
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Another reason is cryptocurrency provides faster transactions and a level of privacy.
On their services, online casinos ask for KYC and actually the level of privacy is determined by this. Then crypto's built-in privacy is completely useless. It is no more convenient than conventional gambling for the privacy-seeking gambler, one can go to a physical casino and play a few games on fiat and leave like the wind.

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There are many more issues that I believe have hampered the churning of a traditional user to a crypto gambler. But the number one issue as per my research is individual preferences and circumstances.
Yes, especially regarding preferences, the use of crypto technically is still problematic for some age groups of gamblers. Or they don't even bother looking for alternative crypto gambling on the internet because they are comfortable with the current one.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: jrrsparkles on April 05, 2023, 06:57:52 AM
Land based casinos are like part of culture in many places so they like to gamble there as they have been however in future we may see land based cryptocurrency casinos as well since the world is gradually accepting cryptocurrency as well so by that time most people aware of how to use it just like fiat but it still has long time to go, now we are at the beginning of that era which itself a great threat to the existing fiat based online as well as land based casinos. So imagine how the future of cryptocurrency gambling market will be.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: davis196 on April 05, 2023, 07:09:26 AM
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As per my understanding, crypto casinos have offered benefits that some fiat-based casinos cannot match. Another reason is cryptocurrency provides faster transactions and a level of privacy. Thinking about the regulatory environment surrounding cryptocurrency globally. I think a lot of crypto casinos are still churning existing users of other crypto casinos.

Privacy? Can you buy cryptocurrencies without ID verification? I know that you can, but the cost is higher. ;D
Faster transactions? So you think that fiat debit card/credit card transactions are slower? Are you kidding me?
I believe that most of the hardcore fiat casino gamblers won't touch a crypto casino with a 10 foot pole. They are used to fiat casinos and the fiat casinos are convenient enough for them. Crypto casinos create a false sense of privacy and anonymity(until you have to perform KYC in order to withdraw your hard earned profits ;D).
I don't know about any benefits a crypto casino can offer that were not already offered by a fiat casino. Can you mention any?
 


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Mr.suevie on April 05, 2023, 09:30:43 AM
they are not much crypto casino fully functional in my locality but the I can certainly say that the pandemic really affected fiat based casino that involves the use of cash to bet. Another event that affected  local casino in my place was the recent development on changing of the fiat currency in my country, it made alot of business to close down and this was due to the shortage of cash in every area of the country and this lead wonder, if they had been a crypto casino that is functional in my country, i would have and it would have led these fiat gambling casinos to loose alot of their customers. But the shortage of cash now cause everyone to create online fiat gambling platform where can easily get access to gamble.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Solosanz on April 05, 2023, 09:49:53 AM
Privacy? Can you buy cryptocurrencies without ID verification? I know that you can, but the cost is higher. ;D
Faster transactions? So you think that fiat debit card/credit card transactions are slower? Are you kidding me?
I believe that most of the hardcore fiat casino gamblers won't touch a crypto casino with a 10 foot pole. They are used to fiat casinos and the fiat casinos are convenient enough for them. Crypto casinos create a false sense of privacy and anonymity(until you have to perform KYC in order to withdraw your hard earned profits ;D).
I don't know about any benefits a crypto casino can offer that were not already offered by a fiat casino. Can you mention any?
It's not about the cost is higher, but you're need to find the loophole to buy it. It's true you can buy Bitcoin using No KYC P2P or DEX, but if you're link your bank account, it doesn't make a lot difference if you're want to achieve 100% privacy.

Crypto casino is better than fiat casino in terms of security, if you're gamble on fiat casino you're have a risk of being targeted by criminal especially you win a big amount money.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: AicecreaME on April 05, 2023, 10:00:54 AM
I think a lot of the crypto casinos grew was because of the fact that you can get funds in and out of them easier then with traditional fiat ones.
You don't have to worry about your bank or whatever service you need to use to move the money.
There are a lot more ways to convert fiat to crypto and back then get money from your bank to an online casino.

Even in places where it is 100% state licensed and regulated some banks still do not allow those kinds of transactions. You can go to an ATM in a physical casino and take out to your daily limit, but move $50 to Caesars online through ACH and you get an account hold...

-Dave

The ease of transacting in a gambling casino site is definitely one of the major reasons why players are encouraged to deposit, play, and be a regular. The more it is easier to exchange your fund, the better it is for the players because they won't undergo the hassle of converting through various platforms just to exchange their crypto fund to fiat money. Having a feature like this will help players avoid inconvenience in depositing and withdrawing their funds the moment they win.

It could be a deal breaker for some too, so it's much better to have this for the benefit of both parties, since this could retain players and garner more attention on the side of the casino and a convenience to the part of player.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: traderethereum on April 05, 2023, 10:36:36 AM
It is indeed not easy to change the habit of someone who used to often play in fiat casinos to try to play gambling in crypto casinos.
They need a lot of learning until they understand how to use crypto properly, then they can try playing gambling at crypto casinos.
But sometimes, when learning about crypto, they immediately try to play gambling by buying crypto and depositing it in crypto casinos.
And this might give people a better understanding because they can get experience in using crypto.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: aioc on April 05, 2023, 11:31:04 AM


I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?


Coine to think of this where do you think these Cryptocurrency gamblers come from, all of them did not start gambling because of Cryptocurrency, they came from fiat-based online casinos and they just transfer their gambling activity to Cryptocurrency casinos, because they find it easy and fast and their privacy is well protected, there are still some traditional fiat gamblers but Cryptocurrency based casinos ruling the gambling industry, it's only a matter of time before they will transfer to Crypto casinos.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: acroman08 on April 05, 2023, 12:59:21 PM
However, I wonder if they have been able to churn customers who are used to traditional online fiat casinos.
the fact that crypto casinos increased during the pandemic, I think it is safe to say that they did. also, cryptocurrency was talked about a lot during the pandemic so I wouldn't be surprised if there are gamblers who looked for crypto casinos once they heard about cryptocurrency and tried it out and became a regular gambler in a crypto casino.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: CarnagexD on April 05, 2023, 03:31:23 PM
It is indeed not easy to change the habit of someone who used to often play in fiat casinos to try to play gambling in crypto casinos.
They need a lot of learning until they understand how to use crypto properly, then they can try playing gambling at crypto casinos.
But sometimes, when learning about crypto, they immediately try to play gambling by buying crypto and depositing it in crypto casinos.
And this might give people a better understanding because they can get experience in using crypto.

Yeah. I think it wont be easy for crypto casinos to completely churn fiat casinos in the near future. Fiat casinos have been around for a long time and many people still prefer the familiarity that comes with using traditional currency. Also, there are still barriers to entry for many people who are interested in using crypto for gambling like if they are not familiar with how to buy and use cryptocurrencies and there are still concerns about security and regulation in the crypto world.

I think fiat and crypto casino can totally just coexist.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: piebeyb on April 05, 2023, 04:07:46 PM
However, I wonder if they have been able to churn customers who are used to traditional online fiat casinos.
the fact that crypto casinos increased during the pandemic, I think it is safe to say that they did. also, cryptocurrency was talked about a lot during the pandemic so I wouldn't be surprised if there are gamblers who looked for crypto casinos once they heard about cryptocurrency and tried it out and became a regular gambler in a crypto casino.

yes it's true the fact is that many gamblers from fiat casinos have switched to online crypto casinos because maybe it's easier to attract lots of people to play gambling than traditional fiat casinos or something like that, this is evident from the statistics of crypto gamblers increasing since the pandemic until now it's even easier for them to use crypto than fiat and others, I am also a crypto casino gambler.  ;)


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: 348Judah on April 05, 2023, 04:12:01 PM
To say the truth about the gambling reality currently ongoing, online crypto casinos have already taken hold of the entire system because this is the trending era of cryptocurrency and since one can have casinos in their numbers in support of using crypto to gamble instead of fiat, then online crypto gambling is already the lead in this regard except for those physical casinos that does not have the requirements of using online platform before gambling that still accept fiats.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Strongkored on April 05, 2023, 04:21:07 PM
I think crypto casino is big because we are more active in forums that discuss crypto but out there fiat casino still dominates compared to crypto casino because not many people understand crypto too, you can see that fiat casino still dominates more advertising in every sports match while crypto only a few casinos have appeared. It will take time for crypto casinos to exceed fiat and it will be proportional to the development of crypto, more and more people know about crypto and know how it works, then casino based crypto will surpass fiat even though they will be constrained by regulations because fiat casinos are easier for the government to collect taxes from activities there. Sometimes traditional things will still dominate because not everyone likes change especially if they are not sure about how it works.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: uneng on April 05, 2023, 04:57:21 PM
To say the truth about the gambling reality currently ongoing, online crypto casinos have already taken hold of the entire system because this is the trending era of cryptocurrency and since one can have casinos in their numbers in support of using crypto to gamble instead of fiat, then online crypto gambling is already the lead in this regard except for those physical casinos that does not have the requirements of using online platform before gambling that still accept fiats.
Crypto casinos have increased a lot in popularity during and after the pandemic, but they still can't beat online fiat casinos, which are more popular, probably due to sponsoring lots of sports' tournaments and championships around the world. Here in our country there are many betting platforms sponsoring such events, especially inside the soccer industry, including the participant clubs. Within time it's possible crypto casinos will also appear more frequently on those events, but for now it's not happening yet.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: passwordnow on April 05, 2023, 04:59:15 PM
yes it's true the fact is that many gamblers from fiat casinos have switched to online crypto casinos because maybe it's easier to attract lots of people to play gambling than traditional fiat casinos or something like that, this is evident from the statistics of crypto gamblers increasing since the pandemic until now it's even easier for them to use crypto than fiat and others, I am also a crypto casino gambler.  ;)
There are more games and the transactions are quicker and many of them doesn't require for KYC. I guess it's a mind opener for those gamblers that it's best for them to just use crypto casinos.
Many features can't be seen from the fiat casinos and they don't even need to visit one physically if they just want to gamble out and have fun.
Although there's the pros and cons to each their own but as people that have been here, we're safe to say that crypto casinos are way much better than the usual and traditional ones.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Hirose UK on April 05, 2023, 06:05:32 PM
The development of crypto casinos is very rapid and more and more gamblers are joining crypto casinos every day.
Perhaps this is because crypto casinos have more advantages and can provide gamblers with greater returns than fiat casinos.
Many traditional or online fiat casinos are starting to lose their customers and almost all of them have switched to crypto casinos.

Moreover, the development of technology has made everyone aware that using technology can provide convenience in all things, including gambling.
By using crypto casinos, gamblers don't need to travel to traditional or physical casinos, and also in crypto casinos, gamblers have the opportunity to get lots of bonuses or prizes that are given from every event that is being held.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 05, 2023, 06:15:31 PM
I think that existing crypto and fiat casinos cannot really be put together into the same basket. They might be casinos but they are completely different as well. If the crypto casinos banked on that knowledge and used it to market to the fiat casino fans then they must have created a marketing plan which would make help the transition along. Basically a way of showing the gamblers "how much more fun and convenient a crypto casino could be than a fiat casino".

All they had to do was take the weaknesses of a traditional casino and show them to the user by offering a crypto solution to each of those cons. After that the gambler instinctively weighs out the pros and cons and decides to stay with crypto casinos.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: QueenVera on April 05, 2023, 06:25:09 PM
Everybody at one point or the other have what actually pleases them and I've seen a friend who doesn't want to be told about cryptocurrency and doesn't want to get associated with anything cryptocurrency and he is doibg just very fine and happy and when I asked so deep into his reasons and he narrated how he was scammed of over thirty thousand dollar converted in my local currency then you'll understand that's a very huge amount and can possibly change someone's life and then he swien neber to get involved in any crypto project and he also gambles alot but basically through fiat and he actually doesn't care about privacy and kyc and that's one exemple and there are alot of people still feeling very comfortable with local and traditional fiat payment methods of casinos and I don't think crypto will easily chum fiat casinos not anytime soon.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: darewaller on April 05, 2023, 06:53:01 PM
What is clear is that cryptocurrency casinos are taking market share away from fiat casinos, as if the former did not exist, business would shift to the latter. However, I think that what the OP is suggesting is unlikely if we are talking about a big transfer, as there are people who only bet in fiat casinos, have never used cryptocurrencies and have a great distrust of them, and these people are not going to switch to crypto casinos, especially not overnight.
Cryptos are still like a fiat, both are still currencies and then both crypto and fiat casinos are still the same casinos so I don't think one is taking away the market share of the other. Crypto casinos are in fact helping the fiat casinos to grow more.

There are first time gamblers who play in crypto and they are curious about how fiat and physical casinos work so they will also try it. The number of fiat online casinos have grown by huge percent, I think that's also because of the crypto casinos. Now many crypto casinos are accepting fiat deposits and withdrawals, the same goes in fiat casinos. I love these new innovations as it makes the people life easier.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Hispo on April 05, 2023, 07:15:09 PM
In general I feel that once people learn how to use cryptocurrency and realize the liberties they offer, it is hard to go back to FIAT, specially if we are talking about people who does not have access to reliable payment processors and cards.

So, I would say that crypto casinos still need to find new ways to appeal towards FIAT gambler who may believe they do not need to buy a satoshi in their whole lifes. I would personally go with the privacy features, the money management (helps to avoid credit card abuse) and the low transaction fees (in the most of the chains). It would be a long term advertisement project, in my opinion

There are so many benefits in the cryptocurrency world that is why those people that had tested the market successfully with profits would never want to go for fiat again. It is very obvious that crypto has so many opportunities for people to embrace compared to fiat that can nit give us profit by holding or keeping it. As a cryptocurrency investors, we know what we are benefiting from the market and that makes us proud and happy to keep buying and selling to make profits in the market. Very soon when the light circulate many people that had been against cryptocurrency would come and see the light by themselves.

I generally do not relate glambing with cryptocurrency investing, they are quite different things. If a gambler who for most of their life used their credit card to deposit on their favorite casinos discovered the benefits of Bitcoin, I assume they would initially stick around because the independence the network has from the usual trust system which keeps the banks going, added to the other things I already mentioned.

Gamblers can be investors and investors can be gamblers but I doubt anyone moves from Fiat to Bitcoin being both at the same time.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Casdinyard on April 05, 2023, 07:49:00 PM
I don't think that's the goal. They both cater to different forms of customers, and it wouldn't sit well from a business standpoint to make enemies off of someone who doesn't even compete with you in any way. The choice of switching to Fist Casinos or vice versa isnalways up to the user itself, and not for the casino to decide or persuade. Coz let's face it, the moment you decided you wanna gamble, you pretty much know already what type of casino you'll play in.

In short, they won't do anything to each other. I don't see Fiat casinos cooperating with cryptocurrency casinos, and I don't see them competing against each other either. Basically they are in their own little bubble, catering to their own set of customers and all that.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: iv4n on April 05, 2023, 08:05:02 PM
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I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?

It's why loyalty programs exist. People who spend a lot of money on gambling look for good loyalty programs, and when they are satisfied with the casino in general and the bonuses they got from their VIP level they will stay there. When there is a better offer it's more likely that someone will change their mind.

I don't have a lot of experience with online fiat casinos when it comes to lucky-based games (including slots), but when it comes to sports betting and poker fiat casinos still have a lot more active players and better options/bonuses. I still think that crypto needs some fantastic "only crypto" poker places, but I guess we are far from that.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Cling18 on April 05, 2023, 09:44:38 PM
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I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?

It's why loyalty programs exist. People who spend a lot of money on gambling look for good loyalty programs, and when they are satisfied with the casino in general and the bonuses they got from their VIP level they will stay there. When there is a better offer it's more likely that someone will change their mind.

I don't have a lot of experience with online fiat casinos when it comes to lucky-based games (including slots), but when it comes to sports betting and poker fiat casinos still have a lot more active players and better options/bonuses. I still think that crypto needs some fantastic "only crypto" poker places, but I guess we are far from that.

Lots of gamblers have switched to crypto gambling but in our country, there are still lots of gamblers who prefer to gamble using fiat despite the edges that crypto can provide. The competition of local casinos in our country is too high nowadays but most of them are fiat based casinos. I think people here still have to see the advantages of using cryptocurrency before they choose it over fiat-based casinos.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: coin-investor on April 05, 2023, 11:32:19 PM
They've done that online Cryptocurrency casinos are flourishing already and there's a massive gambler hopping from fiat to Crypto casinos its only a matter of time before the majority of casino players are on Crypto casinos, and features wise Crypto casinos are far better now, and as a gambler, you'd like to be in a casino where it can address and serve your needs like privacy concern.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Bitinity on April 06, 2023, 12:40:58 AM
I don't have a lot of experience with online fiat casinos when it comes to lucky-based games (including slots), but when it comes to sports betting and poker fiat casinos still have a lot more active players and better options/bonuses. I still think that crypto needs some fantastic "only crypto" poker places, but I guess we are far from that.

Basically the number of fiat based online casinos is still much bigger than crypto based casinos. I can say it because there are just so many local fiat casinos in my country with many active players. At the beginning, yes most fiat based online casinos were dominated by poker and sports betting but these days, there are also so many casinos that focused on slots and live games. Of course it is because fiat online casinos are also following what is the trend among online gamblers. With these facts, I have to agree that crypto based online casinos is still far from fiat based online casinos. It will take longer time for crypto casinos to be in the same level as fiat based casinos because it is not that easy to lure people with something new (crypto transaction method) while most people is still more familiar to fiat transaction method.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Casdinyard on April 06, 2023, 07:44:01 PM
Man, you know the saying, "there's a sucker born every moment"? Those old-fashioned online gamblers are the top suckers, no doubt. Trapped in the past, convinced that regular cash casinos are the only way to gamble. They're blind to the crypto casino revolution. Sure, crypto joints got some problems. The legal landscape's a bit sketchy, and not everyone's cozy with cryptos. But those ain't nothing compared to the benefits. Lightning-fast transactions, hella privacy, and way safer gambling experiences? Count me in! And those traditional online gambling folks, they're just fearin' the new. Like old dudes rockin' flip phones and shunning smartphones. But if they're cool with gettin' left behind, that's on them.
While you may be right over one thing. I don't really understand why you need to he this hostile to Fiat Casino Users to prove a point. Yeah sure in all manners and all angles crypto casinos sit nicley at the top, but Fiat variants offer a niche that no Crypto Casino could rver fill, and that is straight to fiat betting. Most go around this hy offering stablecoins butbfor the average joe that do not know shit about crypto, this wouldn't mean anything. So while they might be outdated and visibly aged even, they still serve a purpose and cater towards a real customer demographic. And there's no shame in that.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Eureka_07 on April 06, 2023, 08:00:34 PM
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There are some statistics that is surely available for public somehow related to that, but I currently don't know where to find it... haven't tried using search engines yet.
There is currently a trend here on our country with different fiat casino popping up, I am sure that those were able to churn some of their players' pockets.
It depends to the casino, better play to those that had already gained good reputation than trying new & suspicious one.
Generally, I don't get the difference how can fiat users be churned like that compared to crypto players. I mean, those are just same players with generally almost have the same gambling knowledge.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: Finestream on April 06, 2023, 08:34:10 PM
I think most crypto casinos are still churning out existing customers. I also believe that it is not that easy to get a traditional online gambling user to change their habit. What do you think?
I agree, not all gamblers are willing to change the way they gamble and will prefer to stay at the current casino they're using. With the current aggressive marketing that some crypto casinos are still currently doing I still think they'll continue to convert more users in the future.

Then again there are crypto casinos that allow you to play with a fiat balance despite using crypto to deposit and withdraw so now it's becoming more easy for fiat gamblers to switch and try out crypto casinos.
As more crypto casinos want an edge over traditional fiat casinos, but I know it won’t be that easy as there would always be casino lovers who will only stick to fiat as they think that traditional casinos are still reliable that these new crypto casinos. Good thing crypto casinos are allowing some fiat users to play with them but I know in the long run, it will be a compulsory that if you play with crypto casinos, you should have your own crypto balance so you will be allow to play.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: livingfree on April 06, 2023, 08:39:49 PM
They've done that online Cryptocurrency casinos are flourishing already and there's a massive gambler hopping from fiat to Crypto casinos its only a matter of time before the majority of casino players are on Crypto casinos, and features wise Crypto casinos are far better now, and as a gambler, you'd like to be in a casino where it can address and serve your needs like privacy concern.
Time will come that most fiat casinos will no longer be fiat casinos but they'll serve and accept variety of accepted payments including cryptocurrencies.

I think it's not all about who won and beat the fiat/crypto casinos. But on this matter, we can all agree that it's a win for the entire crypto market and community because we saw how vast and quick adoption being done during the start of the pandemic.

We understand the advantages of using crypto and being in a crypto casino when we gamble and that's exactly the reason why we're here. I guess those traditional gamblers that haven't seen this yet will eventually be excited upon knowing such in existence.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 06, 2023, 08:50:51 PM
They've done that online Cryptocurrency casinos are flourishing already and there's a massive gambler hopping from fiat to Crypto casinos its only a matter of time before the majority of casino players are on Crypto casinos, and features wise Crypto casinos are far better now, and as a gambler, you'd like to be in a casino where it can address and serve your needs like privacy concern.
I would say that it wont really be a total switch up considering that there are still people who would really be staying up and play on a fiat casino or physical places on which we could say that they do really serve out

on different market because not all people would be jumping into online casino whether on fiat itself or with crypto.It is really just that there's a significant amount of popularity and attention on which crypto gambling
did able to commit out and this is why we could say that there is really that transferring but i would say that there would be still people who do prefer on staying on where they
had been get used to.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 06, 2023, 08:57:51 PM
They've done that online Cryptocurrency casinos are flourishing already and there's a massive gambler hopping from fiat to Crypto casinos its only a matter of time before the majority of casino players are on Crypto casinos, and features wise Crypto casinos are far better now, and as a gambler, you'd like to be in a casino where it can address and serve your needs like privacy concern.
^That is right and I agree with you, whether a player chooses to gamble at a fiat or crypto casino may depend on their individual preferences and priorities. Some players may prioritize privacy and security, while others may prefer a wider range of games or better bonuses. As both types of casinos continue to compete and improve, players will have more choices and opportunities to find the casino that best meets their needs. So I cannot decide which one of them because each of us has different likes and dislikes, even if a player chooses to gamble at a fiat or crypto casino may depend on a variety of factors, including their personal preferences, the reputation of the casino, and the availability of different games and features still we looking at.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 06, 2023, 08:58:53 PM
They've done that online Cryptocurrency casinos are flourishing already and there's a massive gambler hopping from fiat to Crypto casinos its only a matter of time before the majority of casino players are on Crypto casinos, and features wise Crypto casinos are far better now, and as a gambler, you'd like to be in a casino where it can address and serve your needs like privacy concern.
I would say that it wont really be a total switch up considering that there are still people who would really be staying up and play on a fiat casino or physical places on which we could say that they do really serve out

on different market because not all people would be jumping into online casino whether on fiat itself or with crypto.It is really just that there's a significant amount of popularity and attention on which crypto gambling
did able to commit out and this is why we could say that there is really that transferring but i would say that there would be still people who do prefer on staying on where they
had been get used to.

most old gen gamblers will stick to traditional casinos. but some younger gen, i believe, they will try to navigate the services of crypto online casinos. as they are not afraid to try new things, they will try to see what's in store for them to these crypto casinos. but some will stay using fiat-based casinos as they don't want to get out of their comfort zone. but the word of mouth sometimes is a very convincing marketing tool. once their friends or colleagues find out the advantages of using crypto casinos, they will talk. and that will give these traditional gamblers reason to check out crypto casinos.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: molsewid on April 06, 2023, 09:05:38 PM
^That is right and I agree with you, whether a player chooses to gamble at a fiat or crypto casino may depend on their individual preferences and priorities. Some players may prioritize privacy and security, while others may prefer a wider range of games or better bonuses. As both types of casinos continue to compete and improve, players will have more choices and opportunities to find the casino that best meets their needs. So I cannot decide which one of them because each of us has different likes and dislikes, even if a player chooses to gamble at a fiat or crypto casino may depend on a variety of factors, including their personal preferences, the reputation of the casino, and the availability of different games and features still we looking at.
Exactly, it will depend on each and everyone preferences. Some people who used to play in traditional ones are already playing in crypto or online casinos, because it is more convenient to them, some people still may not want to try because they are afraid that they might be hacked.If you are going to ask some people why they don't invest or gamble with crypto they will say because of the security and maybe their community might affect as well.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: _act_ on April 06, 2023, 09:15:01 PM
Exactly, it will depend on each and everyone preferences. Some people who used to play in traditional ones are already playing in crypto or online casinos, because it is more convenient to them, some people still may not want to try because they are afraid that they might be hacked.If you are going to ask some people why they don't invest or gamble with crypto they will say because of the security and maybe their community might affect as well.
Traditional casinos were making use of fiat, but fiat can be used online too just like cryptocurrencies. If to be sincere, fiat casinos that are online too can be good, but the problem I see with them is just the delay in withdrawal, they have good services and excellent ways to attract customers too. As of today, fiat casinos that are online are more than crypto casinos, but I will prefer crypto casinos just because of the fast withdrawal that they have.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: gunhell16 on April 06, 2023, 09:18:36 PM
And I really noticed during the pandemic, the presence of covid all over the world became the key to the popularity especially of online casinos during these times.

Especially when the pandemic season ended, online casinos suddenly became rampant. Whereas when there was no pandemic, the only casinos online that I saw were really only for crypto gambling, but now even on social media platforms you can see ads because of what some influencers are doing.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: virasisog on April 06, 2023, 09:37:35 PM
And I really noticed during the pandemic, the presence of covid all over the world became the key to the popularity especially of online casinos during these times.

Especially when the pandemic season ended, online casinos suddenly became rampant. Whereas when there was no pandemic, the only casinos online that I saw were really only for crypto gambling, but now even on social media platforms you can see ads because of what some influencers are doing.

Lots of people have seen the value and convenience that online casino could provide. Even nongamblers have learned to gamble during the pandemic because users could access it easily since physical casinos have stopped during that time. However, even with the existence of crypto casinos, many still prefer fiat casinos especially those who still got no idea about how cryptocurrency works. They find it safest to gamble with fiat because of its stable value.


Title: Re: Do You Think Existing Crypto Casinos Were Able to Churn Fiat Casinos User?
Post by: STT on April 06, 2023, 09:54:32 PM
The bias is towards technology over bricks and mortar for a number of reasons.   The circulation of currency in the world generally is growing faster, people arent stacking pennies on their bedside table so often any more.  People want to use their cash and have use of it for their enjoyment and spending requirements so plain cash isnt as useful arguably as online digital currency of any kind.  Of course I would argue always retain many types of currency, you have to pay the taxes and so on and usually thats traditional but leisure wise I do think the bias towards crypto is increasing.