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Hi.
At least 2 P2P marketplaces are down. Localbitcoins and now Paxful.
Were can I still find trustable BTC marketplaces which also work with other currencies?
thanks for any help

Few days ago Paxful was actually having issues but haven’t checked to see if the exchange is down. There are many Exchanges that offer P2P In different currencies it depends on your country. There’s KuCoin, Binance which are centralized exchanges then for KYC free exchanges there’s BISQ which is totally decentralized.

You could ask on your local board to check which is best suited for your country

Some of the popular full fledged CEXes also offers p2p but you need to complete identity verification with them.

1. https://p2p.binance.com/en
2. https://www.bybit.com/fiat/trade/otc/
3. https://www.okx.com/p2p-markets/
4. https://www.kucoin.com/otc
Special mention: noones.com is basically a paxful copy-pasta and a lot of users from paxful are already migrating there so I'd probably keep an eye out.

If you don't wanna bother with KYC, you may find alternatives on https://kycnot.me/?cash=on

It's best to use decentralized exchange Bisq (install it on your computer) for trading Bitcoin with fiat currencies and few main altcoins.
If you want to use something with similar style like Localbitcoins/Paxful, you can try using Agora Desk or LocalMonero.
One more interesting option for p2p trading without kyc on mobile devices is called Peach Bitcoin, and I wrote about it before:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444162.0
https://peachbitcoin.com/

PS
I am not supporting any services I mentioned above.
Do your own research.

All the listed platforms above are not p2p marketplaces (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439202.msg61767060#msg61767060) because they involve a third party which is the centralized exchange
The exchanges are falsely using "Peer to peer marketplace" because it sells them better, but the right term for them is c2c marketplace.

OP may use them, but they are far from being p2p.

Bisq is a perfect p2p Bitcoin exchange.

Yes, I agree. The real p2p is peer to peer with no middle man.
But these innovation of p2p makes safer transaction since there's an escrow to both funds, to avoid scam.
I think this is a good idea for p2p to have a middle man due to the emerging scams, because it's hard to trust a person who's not reputable.

Agreed!  It's also the only one I've used in the past year plus.  There's no other p2p exchange that offers the level of security and safety of Bisq, either.  Due to the requirement of a security deposit and the nature of it's multi-sig transactions, it's among the safest p2p exchanges I've ever seen.  There's no KYC and all your data is stored on your local machine, so there's no risk of data leaks if someone tries to hack one of their remote servers.  There's also no incentive to hack one of their servers, because there's nothing to be gained by doing so.

It's not perfect, and it's limited if you like trading alts, but as a fiat to bitcoin on/off ramp it's second to none.  It's also a great way to trade bitcoin for XMR, and vice-versa if you're trying to improve your privacy.

https://bisq.network/

There’s no problem with a P2P having a third party but the major problem faced by centralized exchanges acting as the middleman is that they tend not to attend to issues properly if the amount looks small and takes more than 24 hours sometimes for there response, sometimes when the supports fails to find a solution to they freeze the funds which frustrating. Another frustrating thing about this centralized exchanges is the lack of ability to cancel an initiated transaction when a buyer/seller is not available. Overall as the centralized exchanges continues to face regulatory challenges in most countries one just needs to trade more on decentralized exchanges

Do you hear yourself, my friend?

Bitcoins is a peer to peer network with no middle man. Would it be "safer" if it has a middle man?
The middleman you think will secure your funds will instead be the one to scam you.

This is the same idea that should be pushed to p2p exchanges. No middle man needed and one just be very careful with their assets, and they will never be scammed.

Not that I am trying to put down your business, but how do we trust a platform that is just months old but claims to have over a million p2p traders signed up?

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/19/ZWQdb.png

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/19/ZWGFv.png

I see only one trader having a couple of offers in the platform out of the millions

The feedback on the homepage also seems not honest.

Peerwallet is good. Mixture of fiat and crypto anyway

noones.com/

Same as Paxful.
But I think works only outside US.

But works the same as Paxful.

Good actually.

Worth being wary of the new Exchange as given by the person. However it would be a detrimental trap if interested in using it. As in other scammer attacks that provide a new link exchange that doesn't even have any activity and is required to make a deposit. It would be a little ridiculous to believe it. Be more vigilant because scammers will be present anywhere.

Nice idea you got there and good work on the webiste.
Wish you all the luck and hope it grows with time.

Atleast you trying to do something, and thats is respect, many other people just complaining and never doing anything themself...

So good luck!

U can use usdt-thb.com
No kyc and other formalities but working in Thailand only.

The best platforms so far are LocalCoinSwap / Bisq / AgoraDesk

Binance is a centralized shit, sorry not sorry.

noones.com is just actually a result of a despite between the founders of paxful. I wouldn't use it, just like I never used it before the dispute. Check this thread; Paxful is Coming Back, but… (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5451338)

I still don't understand why keep referring to the centralized exchanges as p2p marketplaces. Binance has and will never be a p2p marketplace.

As someone who uses localcoinswap.com, I can't suggest them enough, give them a try.

I like your enthusiasm to try to make members use localcoinswap, but you are doing it at the expense of violating a certain forum rule


However, you can put your ref=erral code in your signature space. What is not allowed is putting it in the post area.

Oops my bad, I will edit the post. Thanks for reminding me of that rule.

The best p2p is Binance, of course there is a similar one from paxful and recommended which is Noones but I see that they are some Nigerian scammers that many are reporting problems!

Yes, Binance p2p is best for people who don't value their own privacy. ;)

While we cannot overlook the convenience of Binance's p2p service for purchasing or selling cryptocurrency, it is crucial to acknowledge that using this service requires disclosing personal data.

Therefore, it's always wise to choose a trustworthy platform that has your best interests at heart. I suppose everyone has freedom to select a service based on their personal preferences.

Well to me apart from the above mentioned p2p service providers I think you can also consults some trusted users of this forum, you can trade with them directly or maybe someone from your local would help in providing the service to you.
Then if you must trade on p2p to any other centralized exchange you may required to pass kyc to enable have a larger amount to trade otherwise there maybe some restrictions if your not fully verified.

Im doing manual exchange, atomic swap, escrow

Yes and that´s more or less what I said with worse English? :)
You don´t need to use it if you don´t want to? I just come up with a tip.




Funny that the scammer Thechin0s giving out Merit to you..
More funny is that you created your account same day when he got accused for scamming  ;D
And you speak the same language.

Just a matter of time until this account also will get tagged negativitily.

Bitcointalk.org ---> Marketplace ----> Currency Exchange.

Sorry for your loss mate, when doing research about MadHatters it's no doubt it's a scammer with more then one account here.

You should make a report here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
Create a new topic and use this

Try Caldera, it's very good in terms of anonymity and secure payments.

This infographic explains how it works.

https://caldera.trade/images/Caldera_Infographic.png

https://caldera.trade/

you will use your banks i dont know why you talk about privacy here

You know, I have not had to look at it that way before now but by some means, there is a lot of sense in the theory your postulating here as,
Exchanges are centralized (although we’ve got DEX; which many don’t use due to its difficulty) and as such, coins on an exchange or transacted by an exchange is just you having to use that window of opportunity and p2p isn’t defined by a third party involvement.

Although, you for Bitcoin to maintain its anonymity and a high level of security which ensures trust on the conclusion of a transaction, third parties as escrow which most exchanges stands as by there usage is highly a best option.

Something I don’t agree to though, the term c2c. I fell it ain’t coined better but, I’ve got no better suggestion still.

how about hodlhodl?

Why choose? A blind chicken can be good at P2P-Trading and increase his total BTC amount without needing to buy more BTC. It's not a Football team we choose to hold on I don't get why so many is either on one side or another, take advantages of as much as you can meanwhile you can! The individual's that only doing P2P trading are stupid and the one only holding is also stupid in my opinion. do both and earn significant more money.

Everyone has their own way of trading Bitcoin. Some like to trade directly with others (P2P), while others prefer to just hold onto their Bitcoin. Both ways have their perks. It's not about being "stupid" for choosing one over the other. It's about what works best for you and your goals. You can even try both and see what makes you more money in the end. The key is to understand what you're doing and make choices that fit your situation.

Tell me where there is a full-fledged API for working with p2p? The main condition is that there is a ruble there. We have now written integration with Commex and are looking for similar options.

You can find a complete API for peer-to-peer transactions on Commex. They support rubles, which sounds like what you need. Give it a look and see if it fits your requirements. Best of luck with your integration

gate.io also have p2p

There are good P2P market that you can use to trade BTC and other coins, you can use Bitget, Binance & OKX.

LocalCoinSwap is full of scammers.
AgoraDesk has like 2 sellers over £500...

Most of these places are completely pointless