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Title: Rigged Game
Post by: Outhue on April 09, 2023, 03:27:32 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Eureka_07 on April 09, 2023, 03:43:45 PM
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But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
I'm sure there is a way to determine that. I am just also unaware of that. Maybe if you managed to & record their back-end to those times that you were playing their games.
I also think that regulators can help with this process (it could be long & expensive process though).

Technically, I do not have any knowledge for your concern. But generally, regulators might be a good help, this is why we should better play to those casinos that are licensed.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Wiwo on April 09, 2023, 04:20:57 PM
The best possible way is to play on verifiable casinos, what that means I casino that can provide you with the game TX that can be verified through the blockchain to check the game process to know if it was rigged or not, this is the only way to get the true history and records of the outcome of the game.

But note, not all casino offers such services only those who have an effective properly fair system and blockchain based that could generate your games harsh for verification, few casinos offer such service.

I may have not given an in-depth explanation about that development but you can do a few Google searches to see how it works and what is at stake, with a list of casinos that have such development.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 09, 2023, 04:43:21 PM
I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.

There might be a way of knowing that a casino is cheating or honest but I don't know how. If you play at a casino suspected of cheating its members, you may also be suspicious of the casino.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Beparanf on April 09, 2023, 04:52:13 PM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

Most of the online casino use the typical 3rd party games which the developer of the game itself only knew the code since it’s close source code. I think only the house game ca be rigged by the casino itself and the rest rely on the provider credibility on how they will make their games probably fair.

I believe there’s no reported incident like this on the forum to the crypto casino here because all of them use the same provider with their games. I think the only possible scam attempt which casino can do is not paying the winning amount of the player since they can hold the withdrawal but rigging the 3rd party game is not on their hand(correct me if I’m wrong here).


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: swogerino on April 09, 2023, 04:58:34 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

I have also played over 20 slots and lost but this does not mean the casino is rigged.If you keep checking the ANN threads of different casinos here you will come across the most reputable and trusted ones,they do not cheat people as they know people are their greatest asset and you can easily spot them,they have the ANN thread full of positive reviews and ongoing promotions.I don't know about Aztec or any other casino as I don't play there as for me the casinos who have a great ANN thread here in this very section of the forum are more than enough for me.

Always check the house edge as some slot providers offer the casino different house edge levels.Also check the big wins as the reputable casinos show you the biggest win of persons and for example some also let players boast about it in their chat.That is the maximum anyone can do,then if you still think games are rigged go back and play sport betting.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: bittraffic on April 09, 2023, 05:12:19 PM

It always felt like it was rigged when you lost it all after playing Martingale with your last money. 10 to 20 in a losing streak, it must really be rigged but heck it happens many times already. It applies to most luck base games. One way to check its hash and if anything doesn't check out, then the game is rigged.

But I guess the casino has more ways to prevent itself from getting caught. And all you got to do is just move on.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: YOSHIE on April 09, 2023, 05:53:38 PM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
As far as I know online casino operators, have access to control the players who bet, they have the right to do so, however, there are also places where at certain game points and on certain days, certain times the operators do not control some of those who place bets, that's when they have the opportunity to win big, of course this is different from sports betting, cheating often occurs in types of games such as: slot games, poker, craps, blackjack etc.

Talking about being cheated, yes like I said above, if someone bets in a losing streak, it's a sign that they are monitoring that person's gambling activity, if that happens, stop betting there, look for other games, but other games are the same, that day don't bet, repeat tomorrow or the day after tomorrow where users really escape monitoring and win.

The concept that I'm telling you is based on my friend who works at an online casino, believe it or not, it all depends on each other's thoughts, thats how i know every casino is cheating they dont let user win lose lose their target for that user.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Cantsay on April 09, 2023, 05:58:43 PM
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I am not sure if I have ever harbored such thought before about a casino rigging the game.

Most times when I play and don't win I just go with the idea that that day wasn't mine and maybe next time might be better.

But, to dig into the casino tx to figure out if they are rigging their game or not might be a pain in the ass and I'm not sure if it's worth the stress, just try out another casino if you feel cheated.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Gozie51 on April 09, 2023, 06:11:19 PM
I have not heard of such as rigged game in casino but that doesn't mean the possibilities are not there especially in casinos that have not been confirmed to be reputable and also where the gambler has made substantial winning against them.

On a broader note, casino is gambling business, based on luck like gambling itself and owned by an individual or group of individuals with the aim to make profit like any other business establishment. So don't expect to have a winning edge over casinos because they are programmed to have a reasonable winning advantage over the customer, so that whatever you do to win the chances for that is mathematically reduced against the customer. So it may not be rigged but chances of winning is very much limited. This link on how to know if casino games are rigged or not  (https://www.gamblingsites.com/blog/how-to-know-if-casino-games-are-rigged-or-not/) will be useful to this thread

https://i.imgur.com/ov2AQAL.png


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Hatchy on April 09, 2023, 06:20:18 PM
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I am not sure if I have ever harbored such thought before about a casino rigging the game.

Most times when I play and don't win I just go with the idea that that day wasn't mine and maybe next time might be better.

But, to dig into the casino tx to figure out if they are rigging their game or not might be a pain in the ass and I'm not sure if it's worth the stress, just try out another casino if you feel cheated.

Yea sometimes it's just like that and then I feel like these people are cheating just so I would never win. I too think that these casinos do cheat. If they don't do this most times, they can't make their profits.imagine they don't rigg these games and let's everyone win, they will actually start running at a huge loss soon. Now, we have lots of experts out there that can predict games or master the physics behind these games and of cause the casino knows that there are people like that coming to play their games and so they tend to change or cheat most times to avoid the risk of Lossing to these cheaters or players.so yes I would say casinos do cheat....


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: GideonGono on April 09, 2023, 07:20:19 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
This is actually a good question, cause most of the time when we are having a lose streak on gambling we would just think of it as it is.
Cause we are all aware that we could lose in gambling and it is just the odds, so I also want to know how and when do we call those gambling sites or their game as a rigged game?
And sometimes even if they aren't rigged we would feel like it cause we want to somehow blame something for our loss.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Oshosondy on April 09, 2023, 07:22:02 PM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
What I just know is that you should use a reputable casino instead, a casino that people do recommend other people to use, the possibility that a game is rigged is not likely. I have gambled on many casino before, if I play like 3 to 5 games, I would have won at least once, so if I played 20 times and I lost all the games, I will be suspecting, but that has never happened to me before because I use the casinos that are on this site, or before I will register on a casino site, I will do my diligent research.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Odusko on April 09, 2023, 07:26:30 PM
I am aware of the possibility for a scam casino to rig their games being far from being a provably fair system and most of those casinos are already tagged in various places, we must try as much as possible to take note of some of their tricks which are easy to detect, just like every other scamming casinos have been exposed many of them are now forced out of the market since they can't compete with the several reputable casinos we have lately.
Gambling is a big risky thing so many things are involved in the final results just like some football matches can be fixed the same with every other game and those game fixes are all coming from gambling site operators who are the major actor in that industry.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: decodx on April 09, 2023, 07:37:05 PM
Another way to tell if a game is rigged is to look for reviews and feedback from other players. If a lot of people are reporting similar issues with the game, that could be a red flag. It's also a good idea to do some research on the casino itself before you start playing. If there have been reports of fraud or rigged games in the past, that's definitely something to be aware of.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Slow death on April 09, 2023, 07:43:19 PM
in my case as I don't play casino games so I don't know if they are manipulated or not, I make sports bets which at least is something the casino cannot manipulate, sports bets are the safest thing in terms of manipulation, there is no way for a casino to manipulate a sports game, even if someone rich wanted to manipulate a game he would have to pay an entire team to play a fixed game and that would not be something frequent, it would be an isolated case in some league that was not a prestigious league

Now about casino games, as far as I know they are games created by providers (third parties) and I doubt very much that providers would want to dirty their image with manipulated games, that's because game providers earn more money by providing reliable games called provably fair game they would not accept a bribe to tamper with a game and thereby risk destroying their reputation, I have not yet seen cases of games manipulated by casinos, but I have seen cases of bugs where players exploit this vulnerability to earn money

Another way to tell if a game is rigged is to look for reviews and feedback from other players. If a lot of people are reporting similar issues with the game, that could be a red flag. It's also a good idea to do some research on the casino itself before you start playing. If there have been reports of fraud or rigged games in the past, that's definitely something to be aware of.

it is very difficult to see cases like these, most people when they accuse a casino of being a scam are always accusing the casino of withholding withdrawal of money or canceling bets, but they do not post accusations of manipulation of games in the casino, at least I haven't yet I saw that, I only saw cases where the casino accused the game providers of being in agreement with customers to earn money in the casino, in this case the casino accused the game provider of having manipulated a game in favor of a customer who won a lot of money but the provider proved that there was nothing wrong with the game



Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: klidex on April 09, 2023, 07:43:25 PM
I gamble just to enjoy my every spare moment and when betting on a few losing games in a row, I consider it a bad day without thinking that I am being cheated by the casino.
The reason I think positive things about the casino is because I bet on a trusted casino that I assume everything is fine and always remember that the casino business is built to benefit the gambler.
So just think positively and gamble at reputable casinos it will avoid casino cheating and you don't worry about anything bad.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Viscore on April 09, 2023, 07:46:10 PM
I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.

There might be a way of knowing that a casino is cheating or honest but I don't know how. If you play at a casino suspected of cheating its members, you may also be suspicious of the casino.
Well, as much as gambling is concern, once you’re unlucky, it’s possible that you will end up losing from all your games and eventually used up all your money. However, in cases that the games are rigged, that’s the main reason why we should avoid playing unlicensed casinos because they can actually do that, unfortunately we can’t sue them for that since they are even unregistered. And maybe there’s a way of identifying the games that are being rigged, but maybe the casinos are not practicing it or it’s just that no casino will ever admit that their games are rigged regardless of how reputable or not the casino is.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: passwordnow on April 09, 2023, 08:05:33 PM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
I have no way of finding them out because technically, I'm inadept. But on the scene, I've seen not just those outright gamblers that can prove that the games are rigged but also those frustrated gamblers that just tend to say that the games were rigged because they're not winning and accuses the casino even if it's a reputable one saying that they've been cheating on them as a player and yes, for that reason. It cannot be gone and even if they've lost genuinely, they're finding fault from anyone or in the casino itself where they're gambling with so that they can at least get back their losses but I saw none of them successfully took a refund due to a rant and false accusation.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: notblox1 on April 09, 2023, 08:28:52 PM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
Casino that have legitimate license and good partners for providing games should be good, but I would always have more faith in more established casinos like sportsbet.
There are some casinos that claim provably fair games but I am not sure if that claims can always be proven and verified.
If there are many reports from people for ripped games and scams, that should be clear warning to stay away from casinos like that.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Hispo on April 09, 2023, 08:31:54 PM
I do not blame you to consider the possibility that rigged games even going on to this day. Rigged casino games have been a thing, even before the invention of the internet and the online gambling we all know today.

I would say that in order to be able to tell or have a hint whether some game are rigged against the player or not, it would take us to know a bit about the law of probabilities, studying about the mathematics behind the games we play, it is always useful to sharpen our intuition.

For example, if I played dices and went for a 80% chance and low multiplier and I ended up losing 10 times in a streak. That would indeed spark some suspicion if we know the chances of it.

Also, sticking to provably fair games and understand how one can check the integrity of our session is useful.

We should not be afraid of learning those things.



Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: _act_ on April 09, 2023, 08:36:25 PM
Casino that have legitimate license and good partners for providing games should be good, but I would always have more faith in more established casinos like sportsbet.
Sportbet is good, I have used it before too, but recently I am using Flush and Livecasino, have you used any of the site before? There are many casinos on the gambling board too which are good. You can try any of those sites too and see how good they are. What I am going for is reputation, it will be known if a casino is manipulating. But why manipulating when there is house hedge. We should avoid fake casinos.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Frankolala on April 09, 2023, 08:46:26 PM
This depends on the casino that you are gambling on,playing on a reputable casine will help you free your mind from if your game is been rigged on not. I do gamble but I have never thought of this idea because I believe that any day I lose 20 straight games,that day is not a lucky day for me and I will instantly stop gambling till another day.

It also depends on the type of game that you are gambling on,like if you gamble on sportbet live matches,you will never think on this because it is impossible as the players determines the outcome of the result.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: khaled0111 on April 09, 2023, 09:02:14 PM
Most if not all big and reputable casinos or game providers have partnership with licensed and recognized third party auditors. The role of those auditors is to regularly test the casino games to ensure their RNG system work properly and are not flawed.
This is why you need to play on reputed casinos and know the auditing organization.
A better option to ensure you are not being cheated is to play only provably fair games. This way, you can verify the fairness of the game by yourself without having to trust the casino or any third party entity.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: acroman08 on April 09, 2023, 09:05:34 PM
But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.
would you mind clarifying what casino it is? I did a quick search and the only casino I found when putting "Aztec casino" on the search bar is "Aztecwins.com". is that the casino you are talking about?

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
one way to know if the game in a casino is rigged is if the casino game is provably fair, basically provably fair lets you verify your bets to make sure that the result of your bet is not rigged or wrong(if you want more information about provably fair check this article (https://www.provably.com/).)


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: TimeTeller on April 09, 2023, 09:31:05 PM
Most if not all big and reputable casinos or game providers have partnership with licensed and recognized third party auditors. The role of those auditors is to regularly test the casino games to ensure their RNG system work properly and are not flawed.
This is why you need to play on reputed casinos and know the auditing organization.
A better option to ensure you are not being cheated is to play only provably fair games. This way, you can verify the fairness of the game by yourself without having to trust the casino or any third party entity.

That's one approach that you can do to make sure your game is not rigged.
If the provable fairness is in place in the casino aside from having its reputation.
If you are in doubt, you can always check the provable fairness of the game, maybe not all games but you can do random check.
Also, as you said, those with licensed casinos have their third party auditors. But if in case they missed it, you can always check the fairness of the game.
There are several threads in the forum with comprehensive discussions on this matter.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227525.0 - Do you verify every bet as a gambler? Provably Fair Guide.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445025.0 - Random Number Generator and it's importance in Online Casinos
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438087.0 - What are the origins of provably fair technology in gambling?


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: BitcoinPanther on April 09, 2023, 09:53:01 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.
There is no doubt that there are rouge casinos.  So it is not a news to hear news like rigged house edge in order to make players win less and even modified script to rig the result of luck-based games in a casino.  One solution here is only play on the reputable casinos.  Those that have licenses and is operating for years and have easy access on customer support staff.

Casinos that performs fraud and scams are often unlicensed casinos or not reputable one even though they have a long history of establishment and at the same time long history of scamming their players.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

One good thing that happen in an online casino is the establishment of crypto casino. As far as I know the establishment of crypto casino gives way to provably fair system where a player can verify the fairness of the game.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: ralle14 on April 10, 2023, 12:35:12 AM
But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
As long as they're not from any game providers and there's a way to verify the game manually then it's possible to see and confirm if they're rigged or not.

You'll need some proof to back it up so if the casino won't provide the necessary details to verify the bet then you just have to take their word for it or avoid the game on your own.

I remember the case of luckygames back then as they tried to rig their games due to one of their winning players.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: rodskee on April 10, 2023, 01:07:38 AM
Whenever entering gambling site, I already accept the fact that losing 90% is there and chances of winning is very tin that wont affect my mindset to enjoy.
so knowing if you are  being rigged or the casino rigged their game is just another issue, and maybe they will managed to do that  sometime but the problem is it will comes out in the future, meaning that wrong doing will eventually broadcast.
scammers will always be burned mate.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Chato1977 on April 10, 2023, 01:23:23 AM
let them rigged their game , this will sooner bring them down like what all scam site does.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Nrcewker on April 10, 2023, 02:27:52 AM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

It’s always advised that avoid new and less popular casinos. You are here to gamble and make money, so you won’t get any benefit if you play at newly launched casinos. Moreover these types of tricks are mainly made by these casinos. They make small modifications in their game’s server and hence always wins when you place big bets. On the other hand if you want to check manually whether the game is fair or not, then you can simply check their provably fair system and verify your seeds. But I would still suggest you to play at old and established casinos, they are always friendly and have good reputation. Now the choice is yours OP.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: peter0425 on April 10, 2023, 03:05:37 AM
Am not sure if there are reputable casino that will glad to rig their  own game since there are provider that do this for them and only them to operate .
and there are some casino that had been running good for long time , so why need to engage in scam sites?
find legitimate casino , and you can find those more in this forum.

not sure why there are still some gamblers here in bitcointalk that being lured in scam sites while they can clearly ask the community about the said site they will going to play.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: piebeyb on April 10, 2023, 03:56:24 AM
Aren't all casinos set up to win but it will be cheating too if the house always wins in almost all games on their platform, I'm also actually hard to say they are cheating because maybe I'm just unlucky playing in the casino, we can't do anything because no one will believe with us that's why i prefer sports betting because it can't be cheated than a provably fair casino i never trust that, if you feel you are cheated just leave the casino


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: tusandii on April 10, 2023, 03:58:00 AM
Casino that have legitimate license and good partners for providing games should be good, but I would always have more faith in more established casinos like sportsbet.
Sportbet is good, I have used it before too, but recently I am using Flush and Livecasino, have you used any of the site before? There are many casinos on the gambling board too which are good. You can try any of those sites too and see how good they are. What I am going for is reputation, it will be known if a casino is manipulating. But why manipulating when there is house hedge. We should avoid fake casinos.
For Livecasino I also use it and it does have quite a good selection of games and is not inferior to other big casino sites.
So far, Livecasino has quite good trust and reputation in the gambling industry and is trusted by many gamblers.
Even though Livecasino is not my favorite and reliable casino site, I can rely on them too and can provide pleasure when betting there. Manipulation is carried out only by scam casinos who want to make profits quickly but casinos like this do not have reputation and trust. We can find out and avoid casinos like this by looking at their feedback on forums because of course a bad casino will have many users suggesting to never try to use it.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 10, 2023, 04:25:07 AM
I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.

There might be a way of knowing that a casino is cheating or honest but I don't know how. If you play at a casino suspected of cheating its members, you may also be suspicious of the casino.
Well, as much as gambling is concern, once you’re unlucky, it’s possible that you will end up losing from all your games and eventually used up all your money. However, in cases that the games are rigged, that’s the main reason why we should avoid playing unlicensed casinos because they can actually do that, unfortunately we can’t sue them for that since they are even unregistered. And maybe there’s a way of identifying the games that are being rigged, but maybe the casinos are not practicing it or it’s just that no casino will ever admit that their games are rigged regardless of how reputable or not the casino is.
Instead of running the risk of fraud, we better avoid it because usually scam casinos will tempt gamblers by launching attractive promotions so that gamblers can visit and play gambling at the casino. This is what we have to avoid if we don't want to get experience being cheated by a fraudulent casino and also we will find it difficult to prove that the casino is cheating its players. And even if there is a way to identify rigged games, it won't be easy for us to get back the money we lost because they will deny it, especially if it's big money.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 10, 2023, 04:32:12 AM
Whenever entering gambling site, I already accept the fact that losing 90% is there and chances of winning is very tin that wont affect my mindset to enjoy.
so knowing if you are  being rigged or the casino rigged their game is just another issue, and maybe they will managed to do that  sometime but the problem is it will comes out in the future, meaning that wrong doing will eventually broadcast.
scammers will always be burned mate.


What happens is that it is very difficult to determine when they are rigging a game, it is difficult for us as players to prove it, I have always trusted Provably Fair,for me a game is rigged on Machines when it is not active,now,a game is rigged as soon as Sports is another matter, it is something that Should only be well connected with privileged Information for it, and obviously a lot of Money is needed to be in that environment or people Who have a lot to prove, there are many Chaos that can arise ,only that how to do when Things are like this and demonstrate that it was actually manipulated? In every Casino it is known that there is always an advantage of the house and Even of the game itself, we Cannot see the game as a way to make easy money, it is best to See it as a way to have fun to entertain ourselves and accept the results.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Wexnident on April 10, 2023, 05:35:39 AM
But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
You don't. In most cases of rigged games, you usually find out it's rigged a period after the rigged games happen, and it depends as well depending on the amount of notice it has. It may take days if a LOT of people took note, or months to years if there were only a few (and by then it'd almost be forgotten or dropped by those who noticed it in the first place). It's why in the first place you'd choose to play on reputable casinos, and even if you do play on new ones, you wouldn't try to spend that much until at least enough time was given to guarantee that the casino isn't trying to run away with your money. Ofc this doesn't stop old casinos from going awol all of a sudden, but hey, nothing we can do there really.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: davis196 on April 10, 2023, 06:50:18 AM
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My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

Only the dumb and greedy casino owners would make a game totally rigged, so that the gambler will lose 20 times in a row.
Smart casino owners make the games rigged in a way that allows the gamblers to win small in the beginning, so that they get addicted.
After they start betting big amounts, the rigged games start working and they lose big amounts. Can someone prove that the games are rigged? I don't know. I never really trusted in the "probably fair" concept. I always gamble for fun and not with the intention of making money.
I don't gamble big amounts, because I know that I'm going to lose them in one way or another.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Crypt0Gore on April 10, 2023, 07:01:50 AM
I have read about how some organizations that approve games for online casinos to make sure that the games are fair and completely transparent, like iTech Labs and eCOGRA, I don't know if any online casinos are using this companies to appear clean and trustable for their customers, since such companies exist it shows that some online gambling games are lacking fairness and transparency. Gamblers need to do the work themselves and do research on a casino very well before becoming a casino customer.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Kakmakr on April 10, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
This type of thing will only happen if the casino you are playing on.... has no third party slots. It can happen if the casino has their own in-house games, but they have to be stupid to configure those games on a 100% house edge.  ::)

I never place huge starting bets on a new casino, because I always test their RTP first ...with $0.10 and $0.20 bets. The third party slot providers set the RTP for the casino, so the casino cannot cheat with their games.  ;D


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: EarnOnVictor on April 10, 2023, 08:32:22 AM
You should not gamble if you have the mindset that they rig their games, and personally, I don't see it as a scam if gamblers are finding it difficult to win with a casino. But if such a gamble suspects foul play, then an alternative should be sorted for. One thing about casinos is that they are not as plain as anyone could want them, the general saying that "you can't beat the house" is not just a mere saying. There are programs and calculations put in place to favour the house that I don't believe are scams unless they don't pay your money.

And no matter how the house is favoured, some gamblers will always be winning at one time or the other. This is what keeps the business smoothly running.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on April 10, 2023, 08:34:15 AM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
Casino games are meant to be fun for you and business for the casinos. When they are developing a software they are making sure it is bringing them profit otherwise you and them both are gambling and in business no one gamble.

Most of the games are close source so there are no such way to check the source and understand the code. When you are playing in a casino you are just trusting them.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Plaguedeath on April 10, 2023, 08:41:52 AM
Make sure you're gamble on reputable casino and have provably fair system.

If they have provably fair system, you can verify all of your bets. If you've verify all of your bets and the result is lost 20 times in a row, you think it's unfair and the game is rigged, you can report to the casino and ask them about it.

If their response doesn't make you satisfied, you can create a scam accusation thread.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Rruchi man on April 10, 2023, 08:49:31 AM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
There is no sure way to know that a casino you just started using is rigged, or a casino that you have been using will not suddenly decide one day to rig their games.

You just have to follow reviews of a casino before you choose to play on them and also still follow up recent reviews when you are playing on them to know of any recent development or reviews that suggests rigging.

One review is not enough to conclude that a casino is rigged, a couple of concrete reviews that a casino has rigged their games should be enough for you to find another casino to play with.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: xSkylarx on April 10, 2023, 09:16:20 AM
Mostly we think of this when we are on a losing streak or when others accuse casinos of having losing streaks, but it is still possible. Detecting it is difficult. I haven't really heard that the casino rigged some games that were very popular, or I haven't heard it, but the only thing we can do is gather other users to see if they experienced the same thing as you and try to imitate it again if you've seen that the game is rigged. It is really difficult to accuse if there is no proof, so I could say that we have nothing to do with it if we don't have proof you should stay away from that casino and find another legit or popular casino.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: FatFork on April 10, 2023, 09:30:51 AM
I don't play slots a lot. When I want to gamble at an online casino, I usually choose games that have a provably fair random number generator, so I can be sure that the casino is not cheating me. This means that the game is protected against cheating and the results can be verified by anyone, at any time. In addition, I like sports betting. It gives me a different kind of thrill, and I enjoy doing research on the teams and players before placing my bets. As with any form of gambling, there is always a risk of encountering rigged games or fraudulent practices. However, sports betting has the advantage of being based on actual events and not solely on chance. This means that the outcome is not determined by a machine or a computer algorithm, but rather by the performance of the players or teams involved. Of course, there is always some risk involved in betting, but I find that it's more manageable with sports than with other types of gambling. Plus, I can use my knowledge and analysis to increase my chances of winning.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: bitbollo on April 10, 2023, 09:37:16 AM
verify always license and any kind of regulation...
I believe that the casinos that offer "provably fair" games are the only ones that can guarantee a certain reputation.
General speaking, it is not at all easy to understand if a casino is a scam without following a whole series of tracks.
the first of all is related to reviews. you have to read them carefully to understand what problems they have had and if they are still the same.
then you have to pay attention to their promotions because if they offer something "too convenient" it is definitely a scam ;)


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Outhue on April 10, 2023, 09:52:40 AM

It always felt like it was rigged when you lost it all after playing Martingale with your last money. 10 to 20 in a losing streak, it must really be rigged but heck it happens many times already. It applies to most luck base games. One way to check its hash and if anything doesn't check out, then the game is rigged.

But I guess the casino has more ways to prevent itself from getting caught. And all you got to do is just move on.
Exactly, this was what I have in mind, because I feel like these is no way one can figure out if a casino is cheating or not because losing is also part of the game, you can be having a really bad day when gambling and you lose all your money, even if you complain or accuse this casino to cheating there is no way to prove it.

Luck based games can be rigged as well since casinos are already programmed to make players lose more and win less, this is not a game between player A and player B, this is you against the casino.

I believe there is nothing to do here than try different types of online casinos and choose the one that you prefer the most or works better for you.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: notblox1 on April 10, 2023, 11:58:14 AM
Sportbet is good, I have used it before too, but recently I am using Flush and Livecasino, have you used any of the site before?
Yes I used livecasino and I think they are sister company of Sportsbet, it works very good for casinos games but they dont have any sports betting like Sportsbet.
They both have very similar design with small changes and different colors, but it is almost the same thing and reputation should be good for both of them.



Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: uneng on April 10, 2023, 05:32:16 PM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
What I can tell you is to avoid casinos which don't have provably fair feature and to avoid games from third party services (mainly slot machines) which you are doubtful about the legitimacy of the provider. Important to notice in this case I'm not talking about the casino platform you are playing, but the company which provides them the games. A same company provides games to a plethora of online casinos.

In general you can't take 20 losses in a row as a solid proof the game is rigged, because after all it's all about random results which can indeed take the gambler to lose 20 times or more in sequence, without losing the legitimacy of the results.

Actually, most scams executed by casinos are related to the denial of cashouts by the house to the users, and not during the betting sessions.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: serjent05 on April 10, 2023, 06:16:32 PM

In general you can't take 20 losses in a row as a solid proof the game is rigged, because after all it's all about random results which can indeed take the gambler to lose 20 times or more in sequence, without losing the legitimacy of the results.

20 losses in a row are common to dice if we happen to be playing in a long session.  This is another reason why Martingale is devastating to use in Dice games if we plan to play a long session.

Actually, most scams executed by casinos are related to the denial of cashouts by the house to the users, and not during the betting sessions.

Scam casinos don't only deny withdrawal but also their game house edge is rigged, having more house edge percentage than the regular one.  So it is always better to look for a casino that is reputable and licensed.  This way we can avoid rigged games.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Mahdirakib on April 10, 2023, 06:25:03 PM
so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For the in-house games of a casino, try to verify the result of the game if you have doubts about the fairness of it. You can verify it on the casino by changing the seed, otherwise you can verify the result on some casino related website (e.g. BTCGOSU Provably Fair Verifier (https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/)). There is nothing to worry about the fairness of the in-house games if a casino has RNG certificate. But, you have to trust the provider for the slots and table games.

I remember the case of luckygames back then as they tried to rig their games due to one of their winning players.
Luckygames (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696880.0) was very popular casino in 2017 and 2018. It used to be one of my favourite casino. I was surprised when I heard that Luckygames was manipulating the result of their game. They had shut down their business when the news spread widely. The Crypto Gambling Foundation had published an article about it: Luckygames.io – The monarch of manipulation (https://cryptogambling.org/articles/luckygames-io-the-monarch-of-manipulation/)


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 10, 2023, 06:42:43 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
Technically, it's almost impossible to know when a casino game is rigged, maybe one of the easiest way is if you have a friend and you both bet on the same game but in opposite directions, and still, you both lost the game, then it simply means that the game is rigged by the casino, because since you and your friend bet in opposite directions, one of you is supposed to win..

The best way to avoid being a victim to such is to only play on casinos one trust, casinos with good track record and reputation.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Desmong on April 10, 2023, 06:46:08 PM
You should not gamble if you have the mindset that they rig their games, and personally, I don't see it as a scam if gamblers are finding it difficult to win with a casino. But if such a gamble suspects foul play, then an alternative should be sorted for. One thing about casinos is that they are not as plain as anyone could want them, the general saying that "you can't beat the house" is not just a mere saying. There are programs and calculations put in place to favour the house that I don't believe are scams unless they don't pay your money.

And no matter how the house is favoured, some gamblers will always be winning at one time or the other. This is what keeps the business smoothly running.
we to regulate the way we bet and gamble on different casinos so that we are not going to end up been the loser. There are so many fake bonuses on many of these online gambling sites and if we are not careful or know what we are doing, we might lose big on our capital because of little greed of cashing out really quick.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 10, 2023, 07:06:36 PM
I think that licensed casinos have to prove their "provably fair" claim. I am not sure how that exactly works though. Perhaps there are auditing firms who take care of looking at the code or perhaps the games themselves are open source so anyone can take a look at how they work? With traditional physical casinos there are auditors who come by and check the slot machines and tables and so on to make sure there is nothing out of place. Perhaps there are random checks without the casino owners knowledge in the digital versions as well? With cryptocurrency it should be even easier to check the inflow and outflow of money.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Distinctin on April 10, 2023, 07:17:43 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
You don’t have to worry if you are playing in a reputable online casino as cheating or rigged games are hardly to exist. They have that provably fair system wherein you can actually make a complaint and justify it if ever. But in most cases, rigged games are never observed in licensed casinos. However, if you chose to play in grey areas, expect that some games are rigged so you have to be cautious at all times. They can’t assure the players security so you have to secure yourself from being cheated if not by the casino, but maybe from your co-gamblers.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: seleme on April 10, 2023, 07:20:15 PM
You can ask for audit documentation that shows actual RTP on the specific game/casino, otherwise, you can't individually pick a game and try to figure out RTP with small wagers. Even if you may able to spin slots for million bets, it is not enough to gather real data, unfortunately. The real reason behind it is the average payout depends on game statistics that have been determined mathematically during the creation process. As you mentioned, if you lose 20 times back-to-back in the same game, it doesn't prove anything. You just made a gambling decision and lost money on it, no need to look for anything else behind this scene.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: South Park on April 10, 2023, 07:59:24 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
There are two ways to go about this, one is to use their probably fair feature and check that everything is in order, another possibility is to make use of statistical analysis, if you have a large enough sample from a game then we can say with certainty whether the game has been rigged or not, but be careful this will require a really large sample and a slight deviation from the theoretical results is to be expected, however if the deviation is too large then you will know that the casino is cheating you.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: serjent05 on April 10, 2023, 09:27:21 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
There are two ways to go about this, one is to use their probably fair feature and check that everything is in order, another possibility is to make use of statistical analysis, if you have a large enough sample from a game then we can say with certainty whether the game has been rigged or not, but be careful this will require a really large sample and a slight deviation from the theoretical results is to be expected, however if the deviation is too large then you will know that the casino is cheating you.

Casino rigging the game can't be verified by large data samples.  One of the reasons is that gambling produces random results unless the specification of the game script is checked and found a suspicious set-up, we cannot use the gambling statistical analysis in proving that the casino is rigging the game.  So it will take a technical team that is knowledgeable of the default set-up of games that can detect irregularities in the game script to know if the game is rigging.  It does include validating the current script setup of the game and the original setup or default setup of the game.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: dunfida on April 10, 2023, 09:34:51 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
Casinos nowadays does really have that kind of verifier which if you are somewhat knowledgeable when it comes to technicality then you could really be that able to verify for yourself whether they are cheating or not but of course its not something that give out 100% sure that it is really that fair at all but at least they are confident on showing off those hashes compared into those who arent showing anything at all.
This is why it would really be depending if you are really that keen on finding these things.

One thing that lets me assure and make me that confident that im dealing with the right place is that you should stick on where people been sticking on.You should be playing
on places where lots of people been playing which this do indicate that this is fair than on touching up those non so popular.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Sanitough on April 10, 2023, 09:43:16 PM
I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.

There might be a way of knowing that a casino is cheating or honest but I don't know how. If you play at a casino suspected of cheating its members, you may also be suspicious of the casino.
Probably, if cheating is done by the players, and they consider it, most likely the casino itself is cheating too but I also think there’s really a way how to detect that the game is rigged or the casino is cheating, we just don’t know it but maybe in the future it will be certain and known. However, if you want to avoid experiencing these rigged games, then play on the most popular and reputable casino, for sure every game is following its transparency and fair system.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: DaNNy001 on April 10, 2023, 09:59:45 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For me I always  have this feeling of games being rigged when I have experience lost on many tries on virtual games like soccer, it will feel as if you know the games and the correct outcome when you are winning but when the losses starts coming it will be like the odds have being altered or the results are been changed by someone in the system main stream. But it's all natural because it's was design to operate so, we win and most times lose.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: coin-investor on April 10, 2023, 11:00:16 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For me I always  have this feeling of games being rigged when I have experience lost on many tries on virtual games like soccer, it will feel as if you know the games and the correct outcome when you are winning but when the losses starts coming it will be like the odds have being altered or the results are been changed by someone in the system main stream. But it's all natural because it's was design to operate so, we win and most times lose.

That I agree you can't be losing all the time, for many hours on many days, but you should at least experience winning, one of the ways to analyze a game if it is rigged is to check your betting or game history and check if there are anomalies in them like you still have balance then all of a sudden its wipe out when based on your computation it doesn't add up.
Casinos with good reputations will not rig their games, it's hard to defend your reputation if you are accused of rigging your games when you already have an edge over the players.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: qwertyup23 on April 10, 2023, 11:22:53 PM
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My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

Hmm I think it boils down to the experience that other users also feel when they gamble on a certain website. That is why, it is very important that you join a casino that has a designated page/thread in this forum for you to see everyone's feedback about the game.

It is somehow difficult where to draw the line and to know if the game is rigged since everything revolves around luck. House edges are designed to keep the casino from at least gaining a slight advantage since they are also considered as "businesses" at the end of the day.

If a person keeps on losing and this so called house edges seems rigged, then you have to check other people's feedback in the process. If it is an isolated case where you only experienced it, chances are that you are just really unlucky. But if other people experience it too, then the game/casino might be rigged.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Lanatsa on April 10, 2023, 11:36:52 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For me I always  have this feeling of games being rigged when I have experience lost on many tries on virtual games like soccer, it will feel as if you know the games and the correct outcome when you are winning but when the losses starts coming it will be like the odds have being altered or the results are been changed by someone in the system main stream. But it's all natural because it's was design to operate so, we win and most times lose.

That I agree you can't be losing all the time, for many hours on many days, but you should at least experience winning, one of the ways to analyze a game if it is rigged is to check your betting or game history and check if there are anomalies in them like you still have balance then all of a sudden its wipe out when based on your computation it doesn't add up.
Casinos with good reputations will not rig their games, it's hard to defend your reputation if you are accused of rigging your games when you already have an edge over the players.
Really hard to be mindful about fairness specially when you are dealing on a game that do involves multiple rolls on instant manner or fastest duration which checking out every single bet would really be a pain

in the ass or something that you wouldnt bother yourself on doing so.I agree on what most people been saying that as long you are dealing with a popular casino then you can somewhat assure
that you are dealing in the right place. Games could be rigged but there's no way that we could be able to prove it out.They wont really be leaving any holes
if ever they are really that doing behind the curtains thats why there's no much that we can do.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 11, 2023, 01:57:48 AM
I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.
thats it mate, the problem with other gamblers are loving exploring new sites for their "Beginners Luck" thing but if they are being scammed or cheat , they will cry like a child knowing that there are so many sites that brings them fair gaming.
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There might be a way of knowing that a casino is cheating or honest but I don't know how. If you play at a casino suspected of cheating its members, you may also be suspicious of the casino.
the best thing? ask this forum for better understanding lol.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: tusandii on April 11, 2023, 03:40:10 AM
I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.
thats it mate, the problem with other gamblers are loving exploring new sites for their "Beginners Luck" thing but if they are being scammed or cheat , they will cry like a child knowing that there are so many sites that brings them fair gaming.
Actually it's good to explore new sites to add insight and experience for gamblers, but sometimes they forget the purpose and are lured by what's there, so they dare to take risks without thinking twice.
Not all new sites are bad but there is also no guarantee that new sites will be free from fraud because they don't have trust or reputation in the gambling industry yet so anything can still happen easily.
When accessing a new site, it is better to wait some time and learn everything, then make a deposit to play, but stick with a small amount first.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Alisha-k on April 11, 2023, 07:40:35 AM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
I am among the few who doesn't know that casinos rig their games though, it'll be good if you don't mention names next time especially if you do not have enough prove at your disposal.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: redsun114 on April 11, 2023, 10:04:04 AM
You should not gamble if you have the mindset that they rig their games, and personally, I don't see it as a scam if gamblers are finding it difficult to win with a casino. But if such a gamble suspects foul play, then an alternative should be sorted for. One thing about casinos is that they are not as plain as anyone could want them, the general saying that "you can't beat the house" is not just a mere saying. There are programs and calculations put in place to favour the house that I don't believe are scams unless they don't pay your money.

And no matter how the house is favoured, some gamblers will always be winning at one time or the other. This is what keeps the business smoothly running.
People with such mindsets should simply gamble only at casinos that are trusted and that have provably-fair systems that provide you with the surety that the bets that you are winning or losing are actually fair and aren't systematically rigged, that gives you a mental peace that the casino hasn't rigged the game and you are actually losing.

I don't think that anyone who has ever gambled doesn't know that the house has an edge over the player no matter what game you play, it might differ for different games but it is always there, so losing to the house is a normal thing in gambling.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: coin.princess on April 11, 2023, 10:54:01 AM
You can't actually figure out whether the game you are playing with is rigged or not, particularly if it is from 3rd party service. That's why to make it sure that the games you are playing is safe I suggest that you should only play on the provably fair games as anyone can double check whether those bets are verified or rigged.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Reid on April 11, 2023, 11:03:47 AM
Testing their games is the first thing you could do. Don't put too much money on it and just see the winning rate. A 100 times bet should suffice to know if the game is rigged. Another way to know it is thru gossips. Check out their Telegram or Discord pages and see if there's a community that honestly tells what is happening inside the online casino. That way, you will avoid signing up or even deposit for the first time.
The internet is a large area, there's so many ways you could check it and I do believe there will one or two people that is ranting about it especially if they lose a lot of money.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: CarnagexD on April 11, 2023, 11:21:50 AM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For me I always  have this feeling of games being rigged when I have experience lost on many tries on virtual games like soccer, it will feel as if you know the games and the correct outcome when you are winning but when the losses starts coming it will be like the odds have being altered or the results are been changed by someone in the system main stream. But it's all natural because it's was design to operate so, we win and most times lose.

It is rigged. Over a series of plays, casinos always win as a whole. That's their role and how they make money. It is the dophamine and one's impulse that makes you play it over and over again and the spontaneity that when will you win or maybe you win the next time will make you bet more. To casinos, the more you bet, the greater the odds from them. It is a matter of when will you get out when you're already in profit so you won;t give it back again to casino.


There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For me I always  have this feeling of games being rigged when I have experience lost on many tries on virtual games like soccer, it will feel as if you know the games and the correct outcome when you are winning but when the losses starts coming it will be like the odds have being altered or the results are been changed by someone in the system main stream. But it's all natural because it's was design to operate so, we win and most times lose.

That I agree you can't be losing all the time, for many hours on many days, but you should at least experience winning, one of the ways to analyze a game if it is rigged is to check your betting or game history and check if there are anomalies in them like you still have balance then all of a sudden its wipe out when based on your computation it doesn't add up.
Casinos with good reputations will not rig their games, it's hard to defend your reputation if you are accused of rigging your games when you already have an edge over the players.
Really hard to be mindful about fairness specially when you are dealing on a game that do involves multiple rolls on instant manner or fastest duration which checking out every single bet would really be a pain

in the ass or something that you wouldnt bother yourself on doing so.I agree on what most people been saying that as long you are dealing with a popular casino then you can somewhat assure
that you are dealing in the right place. Games could be rigged but there's no way that we could be able to prove it out.They wont really be leaving any holes
if ever they are really that doing behind the curtains thats why there's no much that we can do.

Cheating could be one thing so if you don't want to be in that kind of position, only engage with trusted and established casinos. Try to read or take a quick summary of Trading in the zone, there discussed how casinos works over series bets and not by individual play. So it is just that is the nature of the game. Learn how to play it not against it Know when will you bet more when the odds is in your side. Gambling turns into a profitable business if you put a system in play around it. It is unfair for everyone which makes the game just fair is it?


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Helena Yu on April 11, 2023, 11:37:52 AM
Testing their games is the first thing you could do. Don't put too much money on it and just see the winning rate. A 100 times bet should suffice to know if the game is rigged. Another way to know it is thru gossips. Check out their Telegram or Discord pages and see if there's a community that honestly tells what is happening inside the online casino. That way, you will avoid signing up or even deposit for the first time.
The internet is a large area, there's so many ways you could check it and I do believe there will one or two people that is ranting about it especially if they lose a lot of money.
Don't need to deposit, we can play with faucet because most of casino nowadays have their own faucet, just like Freebitco.in. This make you can able to gamble how many spins you want without need to worry if the game is rigged or no fair.

Yeah, don't forget to do your own research before gamble, check the casino reputation, check the provider reputation and check how many people are gamble on the game we're interested.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Supreemo on April 11, 2023, 11:43:29 AM
well for me since i am not too keen on online gambling, to know whether the game is rigged or not, i think it needs not only one feedback or two. one time being rigged is not that much but it is suspicious already, 2nd will give you clarity, but the 3rd one should make it clear. i have a few friends who are playing an online casino game which is pretty popular in our area right now and as far as i am concern there's no one that has ever cashed out on it. i warned them that maybe it was rigged or fixed by the system, but they didn't listen, the reason is that, it is cheap and any normal person as long as they have a cellular phone and access to internet can play the game. i was even tempted once just out of curiosity but i stopped since i don't like to risk my personal email by doing so.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: ufaiz50 on April 11, 2023, 11:43:44 AM
Testing their games is the first thing you could do. Don't put too much money on it and just see the winning rate. A 100 times bet should suffice to know if the game is rigged. Another way to know it is thru gossips. Check out their Telegram or Discord pages and see if there's a community that honestly tells what is happening inside the online casino. That way, you will avoid signing up or even deposit for the first time.
The internet is a large area, there's so many ways you could check it and I do believe there will one or two people that is ranting about it especially if they lose a lot of money.
Gossip is not a good idea as it is not a reliable source, sometimes competitors might use unethical strategy to destroy reputation of the other gambling site so they can get their players and they can do through gossip or share wrong information that's why you shouldn't rely on the gossip alone. I think reviews from players could be a reliable source too but if you really are unsure or if there's no way you can verify the game if it is rigged or not, it is better to avoid that game rather than putting at risk your hard earned money.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 11, 2023, 02:43:46 PM
I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.

There might be a way of knowing that a casino is cheating or honest but I don't know how. If you play at a casino suspected of cheating its members, you may also be suspicious of the casino.
Probably, if cheating is done by the players, and they consider it, most likely the casino itself is cheating too but I also think there’s really a way how to detect that the game is rigged or the casino is cheating, we just don’t know it but maybe in the future it will be certain and known. However, if you want to avoid experiencing these rigged games, then play on the most popular and reputable casino, for sure every game is following its transparency and fair system.
Yes, playing at a popular and reputable casino is what we all recommend here and don't play at a casino that is suspicious or has been known as a fraudulent casino. We don't want to experience being scammed by the casino, so we must avoid it. Most of us already have a list of trusted casinos that we have used as a place to play gambling and so far, we have been safe and fine playing at these casinos. So we don't need to try to play at casinos that we don't know, even though they have very interesting promotions for us to get.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Yatsan on April 11, 2023, 02:54:21 PM
You won't know unless someone actually catches those gambling sites doing something wrong or rigging the results on their games. This is to show proof that such thing do really occur in this industry 'coz most of the time, you'd just end up being gaslighted that "it is not your day, come back the other", which on the other hand, has a point. This would only be questioned if none or only a few are winning on different games which is also something difficult to come up with because a long survey would be required to know it. However if you are having a feeling of being cheated by the house, you are free to move towards other platform annd if you would still end up losing, take a rest or a pause to shake things up. Gambling relies on one's luck in the first place.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: panjul07 on April 11, 2023, 03:26:01 PM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

If you are playing games with provably fair system, you can verify your bets so you will know if the result is manipulated or not.
However if you play games with no provably fair system such as most games from 3rd party providers, what you can do is just to trust that they are not rigged.
Anyway I'm wondering why most people start to think that a game is rigged when they experienced a long losing streak but they keep on silence when they experienced a long win streak.
With the same standard, if you play over 20 games/bets and you win it all, will you also think that there is something wrong with it?


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: IIrik11 on April 11, 2023, 03:51:42 PM
all casino rig games, one way or the another.

poker tables are rigged to benefit the house-players..

even sports matches are fixed at the top levels..

basically, u cannot win.

unless u find a way to beat the system.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Coin_trader on April 11, 2023, 04:40:00 PM
all casino rig games, one way or the another.

This is a baseless accusation which common from a player that has hatred on the casino. The casino doesn’t need to rely on this kind of trickery just to have an edge over the players since they have a fixed profit on every bet made(win or lose) through the house edge applied on each games.

poker tables are rigged to benefit the house-players..

This accusation is only possible on scammy casino not on a reputable casino with regular poker player.

even sports matches are fixed at the top levels..

Casino has nothing to do with fixed matches because they are just providing betting option and not directly involved on the sports. Also I don’t see any advantage that a casino can get for being involved on this kind of activity because they are offering bets on both sides.


basically, u cannot win.

unless u find a way to beat the system.
You can win if you are lucky but there’s no way to beat the system for continuously winning because this is gambling which the word itself imply that based on chances and with risk of losing.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: sashapan on April 11, 2023, 04:51:41 PM
  And I think that all casinos are protected from big winnings, casinos are designed to make money and not to give them to us players) Well, I know many players who are lucky for a decent amount, it's very but very, very rare.  You have to be a fartasshole to always win ;D


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Stedsm on April 11, 2023, 05:53:58 PM
TBH, I don't think there's anything that can let us know about a rigged casino or some games over there but the reviews of people about it. If you see that many people are joining a discussion or have complaints against a casino regarding losing too much on a certain game, avoid that casino because you'll also end up being a victim gambler over there. There are various gambling site review sites available and we must check them out before gambling on a casino.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Fortify on April 11, 2023, 06:01:00 PM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

You'll never really know if actual games are rigged or not. You may get anecdotal evidence to suggest that no one ever walks away a winner from these sites, but unless you have access to the inner workings of the site or it is somehow exposed in a hack, then such behavior is very hard to detect. The main reason it's hard to detect is because even legitimate casino sites are generally geared up to hoover your money away in the long run. They will tell you upfront that the "Return to Player" amount is like 97% or 80%, which statistically means over time you will lose everything in your account. Anyone who keeps depositing more is chasing a fallacy and pursuing losses down a dark hole.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: wiss19 on April 11, 2023, 06:53:11 PM
There is basically no other way to determine that a game has been rigged or a casino platform is scamming you so the only solution for that is to gamble only in casinos that have a provably-fair system and you can verify every single bet of yours to know that the game hasn't been rigged and you have actually lost the bets based on the RNG's outcomes.

If you are gambling on a platform that has no verifiable source for you to know that the bets have been valid and the house has actually won due to the house edge, there are chances that you have been scammed if you have lost 20 consecutive bets.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: madnessteat on April 11, 2023, 07:17:33 PM
It seems to me that most gamblers never check how fair the casino is playing because not everyone can understand the algorithms for calculating the honesty that the casino uses, or the casino has no such algorithms at all. And in fact, most gamblers just play in a casino that has a good reputation and, in fact, the relationship between the client and the casino are built only on trust, like in the good old days.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Distinctin on April 12, 2023, 06:05:28 AM
It seems to me that most gamblers never check how fair the casino is playing because not everyone can understand the algorithms for calculating the honesty that the casino uses, or the casino has no such algorithms at all. And in fact, most gamblers just play in a casino that has a good reputation and, in fact, the relationship between the client and the casino are built only on trust, like in the good old days.
Casinos that rig their games can only have short-term success because if they get caught, their future won't be good anymore. These are what we call greedy operators who do not play fair despite having an advantage over the gamblers. It's true that we should rely on the reputation of a casino because those with a good reputation will never cheat. They understand that cheating is a big risk that could hinder their success.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 12, 2023, 06:41:15 AM
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
I am among the few who doesn't know that casinos rig their games though, it'll be good if you don't mention names next time especially if you do not have enough prove at your disposal.
Are you really that naive not to know that scam platforms can literally do anything to get more money out of their users? Rigging games is one of their tactics which is also one of the easiest ones considering the fact that everyone knows that gambling is a thing where you can lose more than win so there are fewer chances of people noticing that.

Those who understand such things simply avoid gambling with platforms that are not providing a provably-fair system for all their games and bets, and those who don't know this thing will simply keep getting scammed.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Oasisman on April 12, 2023, 07:58:35 AM
so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

I always thought casinos were somehow rigged as we say it, because most of them were designed to have a house edge. A house edge may not only mean that they take a few portion of your wagers but it may also mean that they have adjusted something on the system or algorithm to have a slight advantage over their clients. Though some may be abusive and take a huge advantage over their clients.
Deciphering a fraud casino may not be easy if you're trying it on your own, not unless if a lot of players are complaining about losing too much than the percentage of winning.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: btc78 on April 12, 2023, 08:00:49 AM
some casino may do this but the problem is how long they can manage to do this? because sooner or later gamblers and this community(they are lucky if there is no complains inside this forum)will find this out and may leave playing their casinos.

rigging your own gaming is a stupid idea though I believe that there are game provider that they can put the blame .

 And I think that all casinos are protected from big winnings, casinos are designed to make money and not to give them to us players) Well, I know many players who are lucky for a decent amount, it's very but very, very rare.  You have to be a fartasshole to always win ;D
yes they are, but of course they will allow this to happen sometimes just to prove them legit.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Pierre 2 on April 12, 2023, 08:20:53 AM
I think legit casinos won't ever have rigged game because they need to be transparent about their financial methods. Is it possible to understand with other casinos tho? I think its very hard to understand if game is rigged. Losing 10 times in a row doesn't prove anything. But at least we have one rather lucky option: It is never hard to understand if casino itself is not very legit. That kind of online casinos generally use very strange guerilla methods, they offer extraordinary bonuses which are unrealistic (like thousands of dollars for depositing money, what?). They generally have copycat websites etc.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: AicecreaME on April 12, 2023, 11:01:51 AM
To avoid rigged games, only play on reputable casino websites. That way, you have an assurance that the games you are playing are offering you fair and square opportunity to win. If you are fond of exploring and testing different websites no matter how new it is, then be sure to always do a research first before depositing. Ask your fellow gambler friends or here in forum whether they have tried the one you are curious at, so that you'll have an insight about what could happen if you risk in it.

Check articles and legit feedbacks to those who play on their site. Ask for their inputs and if ever they will recommend it, ask the reason why and the cons as well. If you are not going to be careful, you'll definitely fall victim into fake and scam websites that just aim to steal money from you. It's much better to look for provably fair games as well if you really want to be sure.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Ziskinberg on April 12, 2023, 01:30:26 PM
It's easy to find out if a casino is rigged, because rigging is only successful in sports. ;)

Yes, you read it right. Sports rigging is a popular term among sports handicappers, and it has become a normal thing for us to win by being on the right side. However, for casino games, where the house has an edge, rigged games only exist in non-reputable casinos.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Negotiation on April 12, 2023, 02:06:53 PM
Better stay away from rigged games the best online casinos do not rig online games. Use their games to ensure that their game results are fair and unbiased it is essential to select a reputable online casino and review the sites carefully to ensure that the games are fair. It is important to note that game rules may vary depending on the game and the online casino. Therefore, players should always read the game rules carefully before playing so that they understand the rules and possible payouts.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Solosanz on April 12, 2023, 02:23:51 PM
Better stay away from rigged games the best online casinos do not rig online games. Use their games to ensure that their game results are fair and unbiased it is essential to select a reputable online casino and review the sites carefully to ensure that the games are fair. It is important to note that game rules may vary depending on the game and the online casino. Therefore, players should always read the game rules carefully before playing so that they understand the rules and possible payouts.
The games provided from the casinos are mostly from gambling providers, so if you're want to prevent from playing a rigged game, make sure you're gamble on a trusted gambling provider. Casino can't manipulate the game and they don't have anyway to touch the system, they just rent or cooperate with the gambling provider. This mean a trusted and reputable casino can still have a risk to add rigged games.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Lida93 on April 12, 2023, 06:10:31 PM
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But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

Technically, I do not have any knowledge for your concern. But generally, regulators might be a good help, this is why we should better play to those casinos that are licensed.
My attention is drawn to a very salient point you made which is about gamblers making sure to use licensed casinos. This is true about using licensed casinos so to avoid been hooked up witt rigging games by casinos as those with license wouldn't wanna do anything that may lead to their cease of operation license by the authority.

Unlike those with unlicensed operations they don't have anything to lose and would always be determined to bribe their way through the milking of their customer's pocket through game rigging and other alike acts just to keep been in business while they paid their way out.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 12, 2023, 06:21:00 PM
Better stay away from rigged games the best online casinos do not rig online games. Use their games to ensure that their game results are fair and unbiased it is essential to select a reputable online casino and review the sites carefully to ensure that the games are fair. It is important to note that game rules may vary depending on the game and the online casino. Therefore, players should always read the game rules carefully before playing so that they understand the rules and possible payouts.
The games provided from the casinos are mostly from gambling providers, so if you're want to prevent from playing a rigged game, make sure you're gamble on a trusted gambling provider. Casino can't manipulate the game and they don't have anyway to touch the system, they just rent or cooperate with the gambling provider. This mean a trusted and reputable casino can still have a risk to add rigged games.
In such a situation, I think it is the responsibility of the casino to research properly before listing any game, because listing a rigged game will no doubt do a lot of damage to the casino's reputation, and not the game provider.
This is because majority of gamblers don't even know that most of the slot games we play are not managed by the casino, but the game provider, so if a gambler discovers that the slot game he's been playing is rigged, such gambler may not even know that it is the game provider that is responsible, it is the casino itself that the gambler will hold responsible..
So honestly, it is up to the casino to do their home work well, else it's their reputation on the line..


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: alastantiger on April 12, 2023, 06:28:57 PM
I have no idea about the rigging in casino and i have not heard of such thing before now.
But even if casino games are been rigged then there must be a way to identify rigged games.
Exact time i play a game and i loss i believe thats not my luck because my believe in playing casino game is based on luck. If you think of rigging anytime you loss, what about the times you win, is it also rigged? I think the best thing to do to avoid playing in a rigged game is to play in a licenced online casino even though it is not 100% sure because every single game provides the house with a mathematical merits than guarantees the winning of the house.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: madnessteat on April 12, 2023, 06:47:36 PM
It seems to me that most gamblers never check how fair the casino is playing because not everyone can understand the algorithms for calculating the honesty that the casino uses, or the casino has no such algorithms at all. And in fact, most gamblers just play in a casino that has a good reputation and, in fact, the relationship between the client and the casino are built only on trust, like in the good old days.
Casinos that rig their games can only have short-term success because if they get caught, their future won't be good anymore. These are what we call greedy operators who do not play fair despite having an advantage over the gamblers. It's true that we should rely on the reputation of a casino because those with a good reputation will never cheat. They understand that cheating is a big risk that could hinder their success.

Believe me, if a casino owner who does not disclose information to verify the integrity of the gambling, change the RTP ratio by 1-2% he will get super profits and the average casino user will not even notice it. We can not know for sure what the casino owner is doing behind our back, so it is almost unrealistic to prove that he is not playing fair.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Wakate on April 12, 2023, 07:19:48 PM
Better stay away from rigged games the best online casinos do not rig online games. Use their games to ensure that their game results are fair and unbiased it is essential to select a reputable online casino and review the sites carefully to ensure that the games are fair. It is important to note that game rules may vary depending on the game and the online casino. Therefore, players should always read the game rules carefully before playing so that they understand the rules and possible payouts.
This is why I would always prefer sportbooks because they are very difficult to rig compared to other casino games that can be manipulated at any time. Sport games results areore unique and perfect and their results are not always dependent on the casino based outcome. Sport games are more business inclined and you making bet on your preferred team or candidate does not mean that you are going to win. Even casinos do make loses when it comes to sport games because of it uniqueness and how tough the result would be hard to manipulate.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: rahmad2nd on April 12, 2023, 07:46:38 PM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

Interesting. to be honest, it never crossed my mind what you said in this thread. but as far as I know, most casinos use third parties and cooperate with several game developers. Except, the games are from genuine dealers owned by the casino. but, what I say could be wrong.


Well, if you don't want to be cheated like you said in this thread. therefore, choose a casino that has credibility that is not in doubt. Plus, a casino that has a trustworthy reputation. That way, you don't have to worry that the casino will cheat you. after all, I don't have the experience like you said. imagine, if you play 20 games. and, each game does not provide the thrill of a provably fair game. Instead, you look for another casino that is more trustworthy.
As far as my experience goes, I've never had a situation like the one you described. moreover, I tend to bet on sports betting. As for slot games, one thing we need to realize is that these games are purely based on luck. but if luck is on your side, you don't need to bother playing 20 different games. just one game, you can get big profits.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: madnessteat on April 12, 2023, 08:07:27 PM
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After one spends several years in the crypto community, he gets used to the fact that many projects are open source and almost all actions of the ecosystem participants are controlled by smart contracts, he wants the same experience in a casino. In fact, it is not surprising that some gamblers are already thinking about casino integrity checking mechanisms.   


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: maydna on April 12, 2023, 10:12:39 PM
Better stay away from rigged games the best online casinos do not rig online games. Use their games to ensure that their game results are fair and unbiased it is essential to select a reputable online casino and review the sites carefully to ensure that the games are fair. It is important to note that game rules may vary depending on the game and the online casino. Therefore, players should always read the game rules carefully before playing so that they understand the rules and possible payouts.
This is why I would always prefer sportbooks because they are very difficult to rig compared to other casino games that can be manipulated at any time. Sport games results areore unique and perfect and their results are not always dependent on the casino based outcome. Sport games are more business inclined and you making bet on your preferred team or candidate does not mean that you are going to win. Even casinos do make loses when it comes to sport games because of it uniqueness and how tough the result would be hard to manipulate.
Well, at least we know what we are choosing and try to avoid rogue casinos. It is possible that all types of casinos can be rigged, but we will never really know if they are true or fake. And we as gamblers, can only play and enjoy it.

If we don't want to be cheated, we shouldn't have to gamble and use the money for other things. The important thing is that you can accept the results of your game, and even if, in the end, you find out that you were cheated by the casino you used, you have to accept it.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: dunfida on April 12, 2023, 10:34:17 PM
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After one spends several years in the crypto community, he gets used to the fact that many projects are open source and almost all actions of the ecosystem participants are controlled by smart contracts, he wants the same experience in a casino. In fact, it is not surprising that some gamblers are already thinking about casino integrity checking mechanisms.   
Once you do have that experience then that awareness on doing the basic stuff in speaking about verification would really be just that normal on where we do make out some research and in depth checking whether a site or platform is really that something could be trusted or not.This is why on the time that you would be making your assesment then it would be depending on you whether you would really be getting convinced
if the site is really that fair and square or something shady which you cant really be that something worth to deposit. Rigged games and sites are really that existing on this market
and this is why we should really be that careful.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Poker Player on April 13, 2023, 04:29:20 AM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged?

I'm going to talk about what I know more about and that is that in the fiat poker houses, such as Pokerstars, Pacific and many others, the randomness in the distribution of cards is more than proven using databases and statistical programs. The recreational player who loses money complains that he is rigged instead of blaming it on his own bad play or variance, but the houses make money without needing to rig anything.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Casdinyard on April 13, 2023, 06:48:30 PM
The best way to win the game is to not play it.

I'm not saying you shouldn't play or game or bet at all, it's a gambling thread on a gambling board after all. What I am saying is that in times and situations like these, it's most wise to not risk yourself already. Playing on shady casinos, ones that can't present any license, or those that promise ridiculous things aren't the way to go. The risks outweigh the benefits so to speak. In any case, play on verifiable and reputable casinos only. That way you can rest easy that you are on a casino that you can trust and one that wouldn't play any games on you.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Volgastallion on April 13, 2023, 06:57:53 PM
When i read the title of the thread i thinked you were talking about the games in sports who was rigged by thir parties and destroy casinos and normal players.

And they have behind mafia organizations, this its mos common on tennis and its reapidly spreading among lower divisons of football or in poor countries.

About rigged games (the one you are talking about), its difficult..... i think most of the comments about this its 80% people who doesnt know how to lose or how to behave with that lose, and start making complains. And everyone make this after a long stint of looses, its like our mind its not preparate for that.

The other 20%.... yes i think some very shady casinos maybe took the machines/games.



My question is how can one know that their game is rigged?

I'm going to talk about what I know more about and that is that in the fiat poker houses, such as Pokerstars, Pacific and many others, the randomness in the distribution of cards is more than proven using databases and statistical programs. The recreational player who loses money complains that he is rigged instead of blaming it on his own bad play or variance, but the houses make money without needing to rig anything.

I have to totally agree with you, but some people doesnt understand how the poker business/system work, and they start saying shit.


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Post by: famososMuertos on April 13, 2023, 07:17:06 PM
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But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

Proofs? then,  your personal experience and accurate data, if we don't fall for anything, it's straw, and it may sound very harsh but if I'm in a niche that I belong not only to play but also to judge, there are have accurate data at hand, there are several casinos that make life in the forum and all of them are reliable, with except for those that have tag, check the trust and / or leave your concerns there, but with proofs.

It is in bad taste to create such a generic title, it is to create unfounded opinion matrices, we all know the problems that exist in traditional casinos and in crypto casinos, but that title lacks a last name.

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My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

We must tell you that, for example, in crypto casinos there are casinos that have a reputation + PF, the providers of any game are regulated and norms are assigned to them that are verified by entities and organizations in charge of that.

There is even casinos that is crap and is marked as a scam but this casinos are regulated, they have certified providers, etc. So, the problem in this cases is with the casino that rigs deposits or withdrawals. It is the point here you can not put all casinos in the same case, each issue is individual and can not be generalized.

I think it is a situation of trust on your part, if you always think like this, the solution is simple, stay away from the casinos.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: fullhdpixel on April 14, 2023, 03:48:16 PM
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged?
I'm going to talk about what I know more about and that is that in the fiat poker houses, such as Pokerstars, Pacific and many others, the randomness in the distribution of cards is more than proven using databases and statistical programs. The recreational player who loses money complains that he is rigged instead of blaming it on his own bad play or variance, but the houses make money without needing to rig anything.
I think I already saw PokerStars before on the local Television and last time I saw them in the home page of Youtube. They are famous so there is no need to rig their games because I am sure they are earning decent income already and besides, rigging games would be risky.

What if someone suspects it, found guilty and reports them to the gambling authorities? But in the casinos where I play, there are so many players who also complain telling that the casino is rigged but how come when these casinos are old and currently at the top? Annoying users like that should be muted. They better quit gambling if they can't accept their defeats.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: Finestream on April 14, 2023, 06:42:04 PM
TBH, I don't think there's anything that can let us know about a rigged casino or some games over there but the reviews of people about it. If you see that many people are joining a discussion or have complaints against a casino regarding losing too much on a certain game, avoid that casino because you'll also end up being a victim gambler over there. There are various gambling site review sites available and we must check them out before gambling on a casino.
Reading reviews is always essential not just when you decide to invest or trade, but also when it comes to gambling matters. If you see a lot of gamblers are giving the site negative comments, then its better to spare yourself on it than to experience the same thing by getting scammed too. That’s the reason why we should never gamble in new and unestablished casinos because most of them are just good for scamming. If only we will easily know that this particular game is rigged, then we can always avoid playing on it. Hopefully in the future, there’s an easy way to test if a game is rigged or not.


Title: Re: Rigged Game
Post by: rodskee on April 15, 2023, 05:45:11 AM
Whenever entering gambling site, I already accept the fact that losing 90% is there and chances of winning is very tin that wont affect my mindset to enjoy.
so knowing if you are  being rigged or the casino rigged their game is just another issue, and maybe they will managed to do that  sometime but the problem is it will comes out in the future, meaning that wrong doing will eventually broadcast.
scammers will always be burned mate.


What happens is that it is very difficult to determine when they are rigging a game, it is difficult for us as players to prove it, I have always trusted Provably Fair,
a very frustrating but true mate as we are all relies on how the casino doign their ads and their status in community but about rigging ? who truly knows? none of us.
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for me a game is rigged on Machines when it is not active,now,a game is rigged as soon as Sports is another matter, it is something that Should only be well connected with privileged Information for it, and obviously a lot of Money is needed to be in that environment or people Who have a lot to prove, there are many Chaos that can arise ,only that how to do when Things are like this and demonstrate that it was actually manipulated? In every Casino it is known that there is always an advantage of the house and Even of the game itself, we Cannot see the game as a way to make easy money, it is best to See it as a way to have fun to entertain ourselves and accept the results.

actually for me not to have those conflict in mind while playing? I only deposit and play to those sites that we have here in forum specially those well known that i have been playing for years now.