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Title: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: sujonali1819 on April 13, 2023, 07:22:00 AM https://i.postimg.cc/3rPFSR8z/image.png
Nothing to explain more. The bounty manager Jr BM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3522352) started a bounty (https://archive.ph/qb9xr)to increase his/her telegram/Twitter followers. It's okay. But the manager is also asking for a positive comment in his/her service thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448486.msg62076939#msg62076939). And first 300 valid participants will be paid. That means let's wait for at least 300 spam/shilling comments in his/her service thread. It's already started. How you are looking at this? archive: https://archive.ph/Da30Q https://i.postimg.cc/W1fy4V6V/spam.png Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Poker Player on April 13, 2023, 07:41:06 AM It's already started. How you are looking at this? Can't that be dealt through reporting? I think massive spam is usually dealt with. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Plaguedeath on April 13, 2023, 07:44:50 AM Nice you bringing up here, I'm not check it even though his thread keep bumped in service board.
It's really suspicious how he ask the participants to leave a positive review, he haven't manage any bounty and we don't know how trusted he's. I already leave a neutral feedback on his account, his client need to check the feedback left on his account. I will not surprised if he might ask the participants to give him merit or positive feedback in the future. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Saisher on April 13, 2023, 08:06:30 AM Project developers should not trust this kind of bounty manager because they are incapable of bringing up good results if they are faking their trust rating they are also going to fake their results.
Legit bounty managers never resort to shilling they know that project developers are wise enough to choose the right managers for their project, not someone who manipulates their reputation through shilling. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: LoyceV on April 13, 2023, 08:25:26 AM Can't that be dealt through reporting? I think so: it's not allowed to give an incentive to post. Although there have been exceptions in the form of review campaigns, in this case it's just spam. And since it's paid in altcoins, it's a giveaway that's not allowed. I've reported both topics.He also says the campaign is escrowed, by his own team. Lol. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: LDL on April 13, 2023, 09:04:18 AM Jr BM takes A unit strategy has been adopted to manage the bounty. He arranged a positive review campaign to entice bounty hunters to promote his service thread. Already there are more than 20 positive comments, if his spamming thread is not locked, then Jr BM will promote his service thread by this positive review-campaign. I request the moderator to close that thread immediately.
Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: sujonali1819 on April 13, 2023, 09:13:35 AM It's already started. How you are looking at this? Can't that be dealt through reporting? I think massive spam is usually dealt with. He also says the campaign is escrowed, by his own team. Lol. LOL, it's funny. I am feeling crazy after reading the bump message in the service thread. Though we can not expect more than this from the hunters. Jr BM takes A unit strategy has been adopted to manage the bounty. He arranged a positive review campaign to entice bounty hunters to promote his service thread. Already there are more than 20 positive comments, if his spamming thread is not locked, then Jr BM will promote his service thread by this positive review-campaign. I request the moderator to close that thread immediately. After the discussion here and warning him in his service thread, he should stop the campaign (the positive comment) asap. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Findingnemo on April 13, 2023, 10:15:20 AM I guess it's against the forum rules as stated above and the user maybe banned temp or permanent for this action since its already reported but yet I can see the existence of thread.
I wonder what will be the benefit of asking them to such positive comment especially from newbie and jr member accounts, anyone who is looking for a business will consider this? ??? EDIT: Jr BM You should not ask people to make positive comments in your service thread. It looks like paid bumping which may cause a lot of spamming. As a bounty manager, you should be smart enough. You could ask them to comment here, but it should not be compulsory or even should not be paid. I hope you can understand and change the bounty rules asap. Thanks for your advise. Let us make the rules compulsory to optional. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: lucifur on April 13, 2023, 10:22:26 AM I wonder what will be the benefit of asking them to such positive comment especially from newbie and jr member accounts, anyone who is looking for a business will consider this? ??? He assumed that this will give him a positive feedback here in the forum. Prolly to tell his future customers how good he is as a bounty manager. It's foolish.Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: acroman08 on April 13, 2023, 11:41:45 AM EDIT: to be honest I don't think it is and I think he just worded it poorly or he shouldn't have said optional. but if you ask me they should have just said that they wouldn't obligate people who review their service to give a positive review in order to get a reward(just like how some review campaign I saw).Jr BM You should not ask people to make positive comments in your service thread. It looks like paid bumping which may cause a lot of spamming. As a bounty manager, you should be smart enough. You could ask them to comment here, but it should not be compulsory or even should not be paid. I hope you can understand and change the bounty rules asap. Thanks for your advise. Let us make the rules compulsory to optional. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: holydarkness on April 13, 2023, 12:01:50 PM [...] to be honest I don't think it is and I think he just worded it poorly or he shouldn't have said optional. but if you ask me they should have just said that they wouldn't obligate people who review their service to give a positive review in order to get a reward(just like how some review campaign I saw).He says will make it as optional will this be okay or still some kind of positive farming involved in this? That... is what "optional" means, people are not obligated to give positive review to get rewards. On their last post, Jr BM said they will remove that "write review" part completely, as per OP's suggestion. Let's see if they'll remove it or not later today. If they didn't, I might consider leaving a neutral to negative tag under the reason that their action --asking for fake review-- is questionable, dishonest, and borderline untrustworth. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: bullrun2024bro on April 13, 2023, 12:24:21 PM ~ Thanks for bringing the threads to our attention @sujonali1819. I already left a (neutral) feedback and reported the threads. Shouldn't we tag the spam accounts that post meaningless one-liners as well? This is a first list of accounts (but, I am sure there are more): Code: Jr BM Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: elevates on April 13, 2023, 12:37:36 PM ~ Thanks for bringing the threads to our attention @sujonali1819. I already left a (neutral) feedback and reported the thread. Shouldn't we tag the spam accounts that post meaningless one-liners as well? This is a first list of accounts (but, I am sure there are more): There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0) about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it. There are a few BM who have the habit of being on the wrong side for god knows what reason. I think this rule needs to be amended as it has been 7 years now. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: bullrun2024bro on April 13, 2023, 12:42:01 PM There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0) about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it. You call it. These are guidelines. IMHO, it's not a loophole. It's common sense that asking for fake positive (!) reviews is highly untrustworthy and therefore should be punished by the community. At least with a neutral tag, to let others know. Same goes for the accounts that post fake positive one-liner reviews for a few bucks. Even though they never dealt with the service before. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: robelneo on April 13, 2023, 12:54:08 PM There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0) about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it. You call it. These are guidelines. IMHO, it's not a loophole. It's common sense that asking for fake positive (!) reviews is highly untrustworthy and therefore should be punished by the community. At least with a neutral tag, to let others know. Same goes for the accounts that post fake positive one-liner reviews for a few bucks. Even though they never dealt with the service before. I call this bribing to build his reputation, that bounty managers do not know how to use plain common sense how can he say that he is a trusted manager or can be trusted to run a campaign when he paid for his reputation, even if the guidelines don't have that, it's on your character not to bribe people to praise you and make you appear a good manager. You can compare it to an election the bounty manager is vote buying, so we can easily say that he is a corrupt bounty manager. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: acroman08 on April 13, 2023, 01:34:58 PM [...] to be honest I don't think it is and I think he just worded it poorly or he shouldn't have said optional. but if you ask me they should have just said that they wouldn't obligate people who review their service to give a positive review in order to get a reward(just like how some review campaign I saw).He says will make it as optional will this be okay or still some kind of positive farming involved in this? That... is what "optional" means, people are not obligated to give positive review to get rewards. @OP, sorry for derailing the thread. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: FatFork on April 13, 2023, 01:57:17 PM There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0) about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it. This is financially incentivized spam, similar to giveaway threads, which are banned on the forum. You can about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0 Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Poker Player on April 13, 2023, 03:02:37 PM The service thread has already been deleted by moderators. Jr BM has tried to collaborate by rectifying his mistake, but even so, the way he started is a botched job that makes me wonder if he is not really 16 years old. I wouldn't hire him at all.
Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Adbitco on April 13, 2023, 03:19:29 PM Oh shit!
What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode? For a bounty manager to source for a review from participants is purely not acceptable maybe if anyone gives him or them a review it should be that they are satisfied with his job or something worth reviewing for than just imposing hunters to give them a positive review on the service thread. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Yogee on April 13, 2023, 03:50:07 PM [....] He only asked for a positive review so that could fall under incentivized posting and there is already an existing and an even older rule that covers that so that's not really a loophole. The BM was just careless and didn't read or bother to ask before posting the rules of his $3 giveaway.There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0) about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it. Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked. Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread. Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Marykeller on April 13, 2023, 04:27:28 PM ~ Thanks for bringing the threads to our attention @sujonali1819. I already left a (neutral) feedback and reported the threads. Shouldn't we tag the spam accounts that post meaningless one-liners as well? This is a first list of accounts (but, I am sure there are more): Code: Jr BM I like the fact that the thread is deleted and Jr BM has been given a neutral feedback for his unprofessional attitude as a bounty manager Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: m2017 on April 13, 2023, 04:56:01 PM Oh, what will happen now if lovesmayfamilis finds out about this.
lovesmayfamilis. lovesmayfamilis! I call you :D Okay, joke on this topic for the last time. :) For today. :) "Write a positive comment on our service thread" - There is nothing good in this. I would understand Jr BM's intentions if he indicated to leave comments based on personal impressions, that is, truthful ones, but here he clearly focuses on "positive" comments. Which, in fact, are paid false reviews. For a similar community doen't leave unpunished (everything has already been said in Jr BM's trust). This is a reminder to those who want to repeat something similar. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: holydarkness on April 13, 2023, 06:42:41 PM Oh shit! What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode? For a bounty manager to source for a review from participants is purely not acceptable maybe if anyone gives him or them a review it should be that they are satisfied with his job or something worth reviewing for than just imposing hunters to give them a positive review on the service thread. OP did, fortunately. So future BM-wannabe could learn from their mistake. This one (https://archive.ph/Da30Q) is the archived service ann thread which meant to be "reviewed", this one (https://archive.ph/qb9xr) is the bounty thread. Oh, what will happen now if lovesmayfamilis finds out about this. lovesmayfamilis. lovesmayfamilis! I call you :D Okay, joke on this topic for the last time. :) For today. :) [...] I LOLed. Looks like the conflict ends with mod --I assume-- deleted the thread. Their TG is still flooded with fake reviews, tshough. I'm not really sure what's on Jr BM's mind by having this bounty, even the most clueless project would questions how and why did their service ann thread suddenly got a lot of praises and good testimonies in one day. I would like to think they're simply naïve, and thus will leave a neutral feedback referencing to this issue instead of a negative one. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: sokani on April 13, 2023, 06:49:41 PM Can't that be dealt through reporting? I think so: it's not allowed to give an incentive to post. Although there have been exceptions in the form of review campaigns, in this case it's just spam. And since it's paid in altcoins, it's a giveaway that's not allowed. I've reported both topics.He also says the campaign is escrowed, by his own team. Lol. All accounts that commented or part took in the task risk being banned from the forum. And and I hope there will also be some sorts of punishment for the bounty manager. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: LTU_btc on April 13, 2023, 10:43:59 PM For me it's strange, how someone can think that buying such fake reviews can be good idea. Especially when these reviews looks so fake and don't bring any credibility to manager. It actually just damage his reputation. Im wondering how much he was ready to pay for each review.
What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode? You can see all posts from this topic scrapped on loyce.club website https://loyce.club/archive/topics/544/5448486.htmlTitle: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Adbitco on April 14, 2023, 08:54:16 AM Snip OP did, fortunately. So future BM-wannabe could learn from their mistake. This one (https://archive.ph/Da30Q) is the archived service ann thread which meant to be "reviewed", this one (https://archive.ph/qb9xr) is the bounty thread. Great! maybe for a future reference or it the Jr BM comes with another formats of promotions, I was weak seeing that Jr BM went ahead doing such a thing although i don't know them emparticular, but has soiled managerial principles across the forum. That notwithstanding i believe no upcoming managers would do that anymore. What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode? You can see all posts from this topic scrapped on loyce.club website https://loyce.club/archive/topics/544/5448486.htmlThank you sir! Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: LoyceV on April 14, 2023, 10:06:02 AM For me it's strange, how someone can think that buying such fake reviews can be good idea. Especially when these reviews looks so fake and don't bring any credibility to manager. It actually just damage his reputation. He has no reputation, so there's nothing to damage ;) People have been buying fake reviews everywhere, and indeed, it's usually very obvious when there's a large number of positive reviews in a short period of time, and nothing afterwards. Let's put is this way: people doing this aren't the brightest.So, to summarize: Jr BM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3522352;dt) now has 6 Posts, 6 Activity, 0 Merit, and 6 neutral tags from DT :D That took skill :P Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: sujonali1819 on April 14, 2023, 01:04:39 PM The man pmed me and share the topic link and ask ''what is this?''. I told him that it was not good what he did, so learn from here and be stronger next time. Later he told me about helping him withdraw the ban (he told me he was banned for 30 days). As usual, I have said him that I can not help in this case but I suggested him do a ban appeal in the Meta section. But I was surprised he was asking for the Link of the Meta section.
Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: coin-investor on April 14, 2023, 03:48:42 PM The man pmed me and share the topic link and ask ''what is this?''. I told him that it was not good what he did, so learn from here and be stronger next time. Later he told me about helping him withdraw the ban (he told me he was banned for 30 days). As usual, I have said him that I can not help in this case but I suggested him do a ban appeal in the Meta section. But I was surprised he was asking for the Link of the Meta section. And he has the nerve to become a campaign manager, it's not only him there are a lot of newbies who are involved in bounty campaigns that do not know the rules all they know is the bounties section because they can make money here and ignore the other sections of Bitcointalk. I call these members nuisance members because they do not care about the health of this forum, and they do not contribute. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Gladitorcomeback on April 14, 2023, 04:31:51 PM I also checked this after bounty launch. Review is not bad but he made a mistake that Jr BM make it mandatory task for positive review. may i ask is someone Jr BM about this that its against the rule of this forum. I think he is not aware of it. some signature bounty also has this task but you they make it optional which is not bad. Everyone is free to give review and can be negative also. i checked his Service Thread and new members make one line post which made his thread full of spam.
Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Stalker22 on April 14, 2023, 09:48:23 PM I also checked this after bounty launch. Review is not bad but he made a mistake that Jr BM make it mandatory task for positive review. may i ask is someone Jr BM about this that its against the rule of this forum. I think he is not aware of it. Well, it seems that the reality has hit him like a ton of bricks. The moderators have already removed his thread and slapped him with a 30-day ban, as reported by sujonali1819. some signature bounty also has this task but you they make it optional which is not bad. Everyone is free to give review and can be negative also. Yes, everyone is free to leave their reviews, but paying for reviews or offering other incentives to members is prohibited. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: LoyceV on April 15, 2023, 07:39:51 AM (he told me he was banned for 30 days). As usual, I have said him that I can not help in this case but I suggested him do a ban appeal in the Meta section. There's no point in appealing a justified ban. He must have had several reports made against his posts, 75% of them got deleted, he's earned himself 7 neutral DT-tags, and it looks like he joined the forum for the wrong reasons. What he should do, is use those 30 days to read the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0).Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: KingsDen on April 15, 2023, 08:30:04 AM The man pmed me and share the topic link and ask ''what is this?''. I told him that it was not good what he did, so learn from here and be stronger next time. Later he told me about helping him withdraw the ban (he told me he was banned for 30 days). As usual, I have said him that I can not help in this case but I suggested him do a ban appeal in the Meta section. But I was surprised he was asking for the Link of the Meta section. And he has the nerve to become a campaign manager, it's not only him there are a lot of newbies who are involved in bounty campaigns that do not know the rules all they know is the bounties section because they can make money here and ignore the other sections of Bitcointalk. I call these members nuisance members because they do not care about the health of this forum, and they do not contribute. Jr BM was totally in a haste. I was thinking he should be an experienced old user coming up with a new account for management services. Asking for 300 users to drop positive remarks in his thread could also be achieved in another way that will not victimise him. How about if he uses the Royse777 term by saying something like this "You are also encouraged to drop comments on my thread and say what you feel about my services " If the statement was made this way, it would be nice and I don't think that anyone would go make bad reviews even when he hasn't scammed anyone yet. Experience is what is needed here in the forum. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: bullrun2024bro on April 15, 2023, 10:53:14 PM So, to summarize: Jr BM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3522352;dt) now has 6 Posts, 6 Activity, 0 Merit, and 6 neutral tags from DT :D That took skill :P FYP: Jr BM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3522352;dt) now has Let's see if he can make a 0 Post 0 Activity 0 Merit 7 Trust score. :P Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Erumo on April 17, 2023, 12:44:49 PM That bounty manage would better start a 1k raffle instead of that stupid bounty campaign. Would have got more attention and reputation here, then that shit like "good manager" from newbies :D
Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: reagansimms on April 18, 2023, 03:26:58 PM So, to summarize: Jr BM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3522352;dt) now has 6 Posts, 6 Activity, 0 Merit, and 6 neutral tags from DT :D That took skill :P FYP: Jr BM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3522352;dt) now has Let's see if he can make a 0 Post 0 Activity 0 Merit 7 Trust score. :P Looks like it will continue to survive, maybe the 7 Trust neutral score will continue to grow. :D Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: smyslov on April 19, 2023, 08:51:45 PM So, to summarize: Jr BM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3522352;dt) now has 6 Posts, 6 Activity, 0 Merit, and 6 neutral tags from DT :D That took skill :P FYP: Jr BM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3522352;dt) now has Let's see if he can make a 0 Post 0 Activity 0 Merit 7 Trust score. :P He cannot delete his thread in the bounty section so it will stay at 2 posts and 2 activities but he can edit his thread obviously this guy did not check the forum rules he study the structure of how to run a bounty campaign but unfortunately, he is not aware of the forum rules about spam, he is busted for his status as bounty manager I'm sure he will not proceed to be on this account but he will learn, and will just create a new account. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: yahoo62278 on April 20, 2023, 01:48:01 PM That bounty manage would better start a 1k raffle instead of that stupid bounty campaign. Would have got more attention and reputation here, then that shit like "good manager" from newbies :D Unfortunately this should be a lesson to other aspiring managers. You don't just wake up 1 day and decide that you are now a bounty manager. You have to research and know what's proper and what's not. It also shows companies who they shouldn't hire. Managers who don't know the rules will likely not know or care if the people in their bounties are following the rules. They likely probably won't even check. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 20, 2023, 06:22:20 PM I don't think this is as bad as expected since some people buy reviews and trust pilot, their ratings and numbers to their desired height, in OP case, i think he's only requesting for comment and not mandating it before getting paid by his participants, but if what he's demanding as well goes against the bounty campaign or signature campaign rules laid by the forum, then I subtle reminder could be forwarded to him maybe he's not aware or has forgotten.
Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: holydarkness on April 20, 2023, 06:44:31 PM I don't think this is as bad as expected since some people buy reviews and trust pilot, their ratings and numbers to their desired height, in OP case, i think he's only requesting for comment and not mandating it before getting paid by his participants, but if what he's demanding as well goes against the bounty campaign or signature campaign rules laid by the forum, then I subtle reminder could be forwarded to him maybe he's not aware or has forgotten. I don't think you've read the thread carefully, or even the opening post. It's there on the image attached by OP, literally the top most of the thread, the thread started with the image. I'm not sure how you missed it. He was demanding it, mandating it. As for the subtle reminder because maybe he's not aware or has forgotten, tell me this: will you trust a bounty manager that doesn't know the most basic rule of the forum? Or, if you're a company hiring him, then the question is: will you trust a manager who caught red handed buying fake reviews? Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Gladitorcomeback on April 20, 2023, 10:08:09 PM Jr BM already learned lesson. He recieved seven neutrel tag totally free and he is unable to post for a month. I think he was thinking in mind that big bounty managers like Royse77, Julerz, Hhumpuz finding projects because they have good reviews from Bitcointalk members and he should become Hero with Paid bounty for Positive review.
What about the list of bounty hunters who joined his bounty and given one line top class review to our Hero Jr member? How these hunters will learn that its against the rules of Bitcointalk. These hunters only visit bounty board and they don't know that there is other boards available here in BTT. I think That Jr BM should launch another bounty and Mandatory task should to visit This thread and Jr member Trust page. what you think about that? Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: holydarkness on April 21, 2023, 09:32:21 AM Jr BM already learned lesson. He recieved seven neutrel tag totally free and he is unable to post for a month. I think he was thinking in mind that big bounty managers like Royse77, Julerz, Hhumpuz finding projects because they have good reviews from Bitcointalk members and he should become Hero with Paid bounty for Positive review. What about the list of bounty hunters who joined his bounty and given one line top class review to our Hero Jr member? How these hunters will learn that its against the rules of Bitcointalk. These hunters only visit bounty board and they don't know that there is other boards available here in BTT. I think That Jr BM should launch another bounty and Mandatory task should to visit This thread and Jr member Trust page. what you think about that? Umm... I think that'll be quite unfair and burdening. Having them to have another bounty with mandatory task to visit this thread would imply Jr BM need to allocate another funds to serve the purpose. If the aim is to inform cluesless newbie hunters about the rules of this forum, it'll be more efficient and less taxing if they just wrote on their previous thread --the one which became the root of this situation-- with link to this thread and explanation about why what the hunters did were wrong. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Mr.right85 on April 21, 2023, 03:10:39 PM Can't that be dealt through reporting? I think so: it's not allowed to give an incentive to post. Although there have been exceptions in the form of review campaigns, in this case it's just spam. And since it's paid in altcoins, it's a giveaway that's not allowed. I've reported both topics.Besides, reviews are just some means to improve on low quality services while bettering existing once. Reviews in the manager Jr. MB has chosen is in itself deceptive and that speaks highly of what project is being advertised. More so, with regards to the forum, the words of bounty hunters is the last thing I would want to hang on. Most are always incentive motivated which is always sentimental. I'll say, Jr. MB won't get the best this way, just more and more spam with most not having to experience the site. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: Igebotz on April 21, 2023, 04:48:52 PM Man must be farming nice reviews for some serious organized fraud, this is bad from every viewpoint, buying positive feedback is a sign of dishonesty and should not be permitted, I believe everyone involved should be tagged as perpetrators.
The man pmed me and share the topic link and ask ''what is this?''. I told him that it was not good what he did, so learn from here and be stronger next time. Later he told me about helping him withdraw the ban (he told me he was banned for 30 days). As usual, I have said him that I can not help in this case but I suggested him do a ban appeal in the Meta section. But I was surprised he was asking for the Link of the Meta section. Doesn't the 30-day ban prevent him from sending messages? I'm curious how he reached you to give the news to you; I doubt he'd be able to wait a month; he's already someplace making another account, possibly changing the name and getting back into business. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: LoyceV on April 21, 2023, 05:39:20 PM Doesn't the 30-day ban prevent him from sending messages? Yes.Quote I'm curious how he reached you to give the news to you When I read that post, I assumed it was on Telegram (or another external mode of communication).Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on April 21, 2023, 06:01:53 PM The bounty manager Jr BM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3522352) started a bounty (https://archive.ph/qb9xr)to increase his/her telegram/Twitter followers. It's okay. But the manager is also asking for a positive comment in his/her service thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448486.msg62076939#msg62076939). And first 300 valid participants will be paid. That means let's wait for at least 300 spam/shilling comments in his/her service thread. An account (rank should be brand new), have no history, may be do not know anything about the forum (unless it's an alt account) is asking for such things only concludes that he has no idea how Quote I'm curious how he reached you to give the news to you When I read that post, I assumed it was on Telegram (or another external mode of communication).Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 21, 2023, 07:07:03 PM Shouldn't we tag the spam accounts that post meaningless one-liners as well? It would certainly be appropriate to give all those fucks neutral feedback, but I think it'd be a waste of time. From a quick glance, most of them are very low-ranked members and probably don't participate on the forum other than to do whatever bounty work they can find (or they're just shill accounts). On top of that, neutral feedback is practically meaningless when it comes to limiting spam and shitposting. I don't think many bounty managers would even notice a neutral, and if I'm not mistaken some even accept members with red trust.This shit has been a plague to bitcointalk for years now, for all of you who might be new here. Trying to fight idiots like Jr BM is like playing whack-a-mole, especially when you can create as many accounts as you want. Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: JollyGood on May 09, 2023, 07:02:44 PM I am late to this thread but it has to be said that all those neutral feedbacks are clearly justified and mine is added too. To use any form of payment to receive positive feedback, review or merits is simply unacceptable. It is these types of activities that bring bad reputation to the forum and if we all try to tag these types of accounts it will cause them some short term delay in their plans though it might not stop them in the long run.
This shit has been a plague to bitcointalk for years now, for all of you who might be new here. Trying to fight idiots like Jr BM is like playing whack-a-mole, especially when you can create as many accounts as you want. As long as there is a market for this sort of thing, it will continue to happen in the forum. In order to post false reviews for any services the promoter would probably create a series of accounts to push their agenda rather than have low ranking members posting lies in search of receiving bounties.Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: holydarkness on May 09, 2023, 09:05:35 PM I am late to this thread but it has to be said that all those neutral feedbacks are clearly justified and mine is added too. To use any form of payment to receive positive feedback, review or merits is simply unacceptable. It is these types of activities that bring bad reputation to the forum and if we all try to tag these types of accounts it will cause them some short term delay in their plans though it might not stop them in the long run. It's safe to assume we won't see Jr BM in a while, or forever. They've abandoned their telegram channel and deleted their TG account, it's a ghost town waiting for their citizen to realize they're writing to no one, and Jr BM probably also left the tagged account for good as well. Their long run action will be to re-emerge with another username and another TG group. https://i.ibb.co/dmNt71j/abandoned.jpg (https://ibb.co/qJHCxX7) Title: Re: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. Post by: JollyGood on May 09, 2023, 10:20:26 PM That is the repetitive cycle when it comes to people using the forum for their own nefarious purposes, they can return using a new identity whenever they want and push forward any agenda. Thankfully, on many occasions they get caught out and others are warned about their conduct.
It's safe to assume we won't see Jr BM in a while, or forever. They've abandoned their telegram channel and deleted their TG account, it's a ghost town waiting for their citizen to realize they're writing to no one, and Jr BM probably also left the tagged account for good as well. Their long run action will be to re-emerge with another username and another TG group. |
