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I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

The questions should be addressed to sportsbetting in general and should not be limited to football only as it applies to others as well. It's true that the bookmakers have less involvement into the outcome of the game. They don't have to deal with the traditional house edge and fairness of the game unlike in casinos. They get their profit by working with the odds provided for each match.

Maybe that's one of the reasons I never spend a lot of money in casinos and play casino games, I don't care if the casinos say they have a system that's probably fair, they'll touch the games so not many gamblers will win no matter how many strategies are used, I always using small bets to play but even then just for fun while waiting for the time for a football event so you don't feel bored.

I am more interested in football betting and betting big money than playing in a casino, because football cannot be completely rigged so it is still easier to get money there than playing in a casino, but that does not mean that soccer betting is always profitable and without risk, all gambling activities have risk and anyone who bets to play gambling must be prepared with all the risks. My advice is to bet responsibly, wisely and use money where you are prepared to lose.

In theory it should be like that but it is not unfortunately.They cannot fine tune the game like they can do with their slot machines yes but still there is the referee there whom with his decisions can tear even the best team apart.I remember a funny phrase from a coach in my local league which is not a well known one when the best team lost to the last one in the standings and he said explicitly "with this referee even Brazil would have lost the game" blaming all the blame to the referee.

If referees were all as correct as you describe and that they would not impact the game it is surely better to bet on sport bets rather than playing on casino games like slot machines.

You are mostly right. But the casino don't win directly when you lose money. The odds are designed in a way so, it doesn't matter which side you bet on, the casino will make money. When you bet on team A, team B and draw at the same time and you win one of these bets, you will still lose money. That's how the casino makes its money. (it is called the house edge) Obviously you are not the only player on that casino so not everybody is going to bet on the winning team. Some other people will bet on the losing side because who knows why.

This becomes a problem when the casino don't have enough players. That's because the casino don't calculate the odds by itself. It takes it from somewhere else. So if somehow there are more winners than the losers on a day, the casino will have to pay the winners from its own pocket and that's a big problem for the casino.

In sports betting, casinos only place or offer bets between teams that are competing.
It is true that the casino cannot manipulate the results of the ongoing match because the course of a football match is not regulated by the casino and every team competing definitely wants to win so that the final result is determined by the two teams competing.
Casinos can only give gamblers a chance to win when betting, so if one of the stronger teams usually has a smaller chance so that if a gambler wins, the casino only gives gamblers a low winning advantage because the odds are lower.
But keep in mind that there are several football matches that can be manipulated where a team that, if we do research, should win, ends up drawing or losing because of acts of manipulation such as bribery for the team to yield or draw a draw.

It's the spontaneity and uncertainty of the outcome which excites and makes every gambler to bet more. It's the constant release of dopamine that is addictive that any person would continuously look for once tasted as good.

Well of course you're right. It exists not only in football but also in other sports such as basketball, boxing, or ufc fights. The only intervention there is to find an edge on which one to bet is actually the quality of players and performance of which team you are taking. Other than that, more concern is when there is an inside anomaly or internal arrangement. This happens when a certain player was being paid to throw and loses the game intentionally. Sometimes it is the referee who calls wrong and untrue violations intentionally to the opposite team.

It's a sports betting, all are most depends on the outcome of the game.

There are two aspects to gambling, one is gambling on sports (sportsbetting), one is casino games (casino gambling). They are both gambling and which you decide to do depends on the one you are more comfortable with to gamble on and which you have more knowledge on. Sportsbetting is more difficult to manipulate than Casino games.

There's a house edge that you don't know inside sports betting.

In short if there are 10 gamblers bet each $100 in a match, the casino has $1,000 as the pool, but odds designed they will only pay $950, the another $50 are their profit. The odds will not be 2.00x and 2.00x, but it's always 1.95x and 1.95x, as simple as that.

Technically house edge exists, so gamblers don't necessarily take 100% of their wins, casinos take something you can call a tax of sorts so that they profit even if winners actually win. Other than that, then yes, casinos don't really have anything that they can do to tamper with the results since matches are pretty public nowadays. This doesn't consider the matches themselves being fixed though, regardless of the casino's intentions, since that kind of stuff happens all the time in sports.

Besides, both in casinos and in sports betting, due to house edge existing, gamblers would always 100% lose compared to the casino.

As far as we can guess, betting house can't influence a football match between Barcelona and Real Madrid. They are more or less, making commissions through wins or losses. I am pretty sure odds in football matches set up in very fine tuned matter so obvious wins (1st rank team beating 18th etc) have very low odds, so its high possibility don't make gambling houses lose huge amount of money. I mean people should always consider this, all kinds of gambling is always against gambler. But that "being against" is very sensitively done so you don't feel it and its definitely NOT unfair.

It is logical that you cannot compare sports betting with any game in a casino, so even though they have something in common, they are two different games. Although some will say that there is a method of "prediction" in some games such as blackjack or poker because some players know how to "count cards", it is mostly a combination of luck and patience in the game where the player tries to outsmart the game and the house.

Sports betting has a completely different component in the sense that it is possible to analyze each individual event in great detail, and thus filter and find those that have the highest chances in our favor. Of course, everything depends on how skilled someone is in gathering information and how many resources they have to minimize the risk as much as possible. Sports such as football, basketball or handball have three possible outcomes (1x2), while for example tennis has only (1 or 2), which means that in the first case there are three possible outcomes, and in the second only two.

If you play type 1, in the first case you have a 33% chance of winning, while the bookmaker has 66%, and in the second case the chances are 50-50. In the event that you combine several events, your chances drop drastically, while the bookmaker's chances increase significantly, so I would conclude that in that case we can already talk about classic gambling.

Football is indeed a bet based on predictions, analysis of the team, field conditions, players and also the condition of the players themselves. A lot happens in soccer betting where teams don't want to work with each other, which ends in losing.

Overall online casinos that provide sports betting always place bets on the strong football team at low stakes and high bets on the weak team, otherwise consider a draw.
Example:
1.1 x 1.2 x 3.5

This is in the sense of words, they know the team that will win, if they win they only pay a small amount to the bettor, so if someone places a bet on a weak team and loses, the online casino dealer will brush off your losing money.

For that sometimes it has also happened the other way around, but that rarely happens, roughly the conclusion leads as you say.

Not exactly. Your bet is on the game's result, what doesn't necessarily mean the most skilled team is going to win, since luck is also a decisive factor in sports matches. Let's say team A control the whole game (more possession, shootings, free kicks), however it might take only one chance for team B to score a goal and keep it for the rest of the game.

So even if you are a specialist on sports, more specifically soccer, there are still chances you are going to predict it wrongly.

But yes, the house only profits from gamblers who lose their bets.

Sports betting is generally preferred for this reason. Honestly, that's why I prefer sports betting more. But sports competitions do not always have predictable results. In my opinion, they are fun for us because we think they are predictable. For example, when you look at a match, look at the past matches of the opponents and the last performance of the team, everything seems to be very easy. But if everything was that easy, we'd all be rich now. I think what makes sports betting attractive is that we think we can predict them. :D

What you say is right. But both playing in online casinos and sports betting can make you lose. You lose at casino games because you don't have luck. And you also lose at sports betting because your analysis is inaccurate or you don't get enough information about team selection. But if your prediction in choosing the team to compete with is correct, you can win, depending on your analysis. But in casino games, you lose if luck doesn't come your way.

More precisely, we can predict it but that prediction does not guarantee us victory. You are right, we can see from the results of the matches they have played throughout the season, or also how the meeting record of the two teams that will compete. We can see from the quality of the players they have and how the performance of each position on the field is for us to compare with our opponents who make conclusions later on which club to bet on. But sometimes we only bet on the clubs we like without looking at their performance.
Looks easy indeed, but not as easy as what we imagine.

It should be logically like that, we have to fight the system in gambling by betting on football teams everywhere, I also feel that I am not being played by the system that is set up in casinos like we bet to win and draw on one team and that will be an advantage clean because the match runs without using the system that was set before and is currently playing on the field, but it turns out that on the field there are still some matches that can be manipulated to make crazier profits than losing money in the casino, I'm sure it's among us in big football matches with high stakes.

The first thing that makes sports betting interesting is because you can simultaneously watch the ongoing match and you definitely have a team that you really like so that it will cause you to be proud if you manage to bet on a team you are proud of and win.

If you say sports betting to be honest I'm still not too sure because there were several sports matches and there were acts of manipulation.

Predicting the outcome of a sports match is also not as easy as we might imagine because many match results don't make sense.
But predicting the most effective sports match is by watching it for at least half a new game, we can see which team's strength will be able to become the winner.

Gambling has many different types and tactics. The bottom line is that you actually only win your betting cap if your chosen team has also won. In other results you lose. But if you are a novice gambler, there are a lot of online books that you can read and there are also a lot of websites where you can consult information to see how you want to gamble. I think my advice is to take it easy in the beginning and certainly not to play with large limits. And also consider whether you want to gamble in a casino or bet on sports competitions.

I think you are partially right, but there are a few more things to consider. In sports betting, like betting on the outcome of a football match, you basically guess the outcome of the match and place your bet on it. The bookmaker sets the odds based on various factors such as team performances, injuries and other relevant information. However, the bookmaker still wants to make a profit, so it slightly adjusts the odds in its favor. This means that they will always make money in the long run, regardless of who was the winner. So even though the betting platform cannot directly control the outcome of the game, they can still influence the odds to ensure a profit.

Technically, yes.

House wins from the losses of their gamblers and that's how odds are made for. There's always the cut between the bettors who had won from their bets and calculated it from the losers.

And as you mentioned about tampering games or about match fixing, it happens but not on those official and popular games but if you're gonna bet within a smaller and lesser popular league then that's possible to be rampant there.

I think sports betting and casino gambling is different in the sense that sports betting may require you to understand the game itself, know the histories of matches, and grasping the idea of odds and knowing how to read them. It is different with casino since it involves only a game of chance. Although, you can put some effort to strategize there, it all go back to its main type which is still a game of chance that makes it really unpredictable. Both of this are of high risk and we should always be cautiously making our decisions in these and only bet the amount you can afford to lose.

Correct, in sports games in general (not just football) you play a lot more with the odds than with luck.
However, you are wrong if believe that this is less profitable for the casinos, as the sites will always lower the reward amount for the results that were most likely.
An example that occurs is in the case of a penalty kick, the casinos block the bets, as they know that allowing bets in favor of the goal is a very high probability of winning.

On the other hand, there is also a "black market" in sports betting, unfortunately... it is the adulterated results in which bettors with a lot of money pay players to score fouls, penalties, or even purposefully lose the game.

But still, I believe that sports betting is much more accurate than betting based purely on luck.

So whether it’s a win or loss for the players, the casino will always have its commission that’s why its profits are certain. Not just in pure luck based games, but even in sportsbetting, the casino will still make profits regardless it’s a win or loss. And this makes casinos more profitable than any kind of business. Not just in football, but certainly in all kinds of sports betting games.

I guess whether it’s sports betting or casino based games, the house still has its edge to win. The reason why even if we think we are betting in the best team, there are still chances that at the end of the game we will see some twists, which means we end up losing and the profits will all go to the casino. That’s why skills and knowledge on the games are not enough, we should still gain luck to attract more profits.

That's the advantage of the bookmaker, no matter what, they still have some profits from the bets.
But it is true on the other hand, that bookies have no influence regarding the results of the sports.
Because it is entirely up to the athletes or the organization handling the games.
If there will be manipulation, it is within the sports and not from the bookies.
So if you are very familiar with one sports, you will have good chance of winning your bets.
But it doesn't mean, it will guarantee your winning, because there are still other factors in play.

Assuming there was not some form of collusion between the athletes you are correct, sport betting is a form of gambling in which the casino is not on full control of the events and as such it is preferred by some gamblers which are suspicious about the legitimacy of some casinos, but even then you should not forget that the house edge still exists and only those which are incredibly skilled at predicting the outcome of the games have any chance of becoming profitable in this way.

I chose to place sports bets precisely because in sports betting I only win if I manage to analyze the game well and hit my bet, the casino cannot manipulate anything, even the odds provider cannot manipulate the results of the games, the only way of someone manipulating something would be if the two teams combined to manipulate the game, this is what they call a fixed game, years ago it was something that happened a lot and of course some people profited from it because they only had to bet on the team they already knew that would win, I don't know if currently there are still cases of fixed games, but I think that if so it must happen in the very small leagues

in sports betting when it comes to table tennis games, there are some scam casinos that have created problems for customers, I don't quite understand what scam casinos do but it seems that it has to do with manipulation of something during the table tennis match, I've seen reports of this in a certain thread of a casino scam that is in this forum. but in general sports betting is much freer from any manipulation by casinos and oddsmakers

You have valid concerns about unreliable betting sites. However, football matches are also sometimes subject to questionable rhetoric. So actually they are not very reliable either. If we evaluate the subject in this context, we can say that they are not very different things. We all have some doubts, big and small, about such matters. If the decentralized and open source gambling sites meet our needs one day, these and similar doubts may disappear. For now, we continue to act as if there is no problem. :D

There's no tampering with big sports events or big leagues. i.e. NBA, NFL, LaLiga, and more. Fix games only happens in small leagues that are mostly not covered by known media or if they do, it's mostly local games only.
Gambling sites' house edge in sports betting is not that big too, they just consider the ranks, strengths, and weaknesses of a team so they can give them some handicaps.
This is actually the huge reason why I switched to sports betting. I don't like my bets being decided by using a system of luck or binaries like casino games. I'd rather choose to do an intensive analysis of each game to enhance my winning chance.

Casino gambling may still be set to lose or win depending on the developer, but for soccer gambling, they cannot do that because it depends on the outcome of the game that occurs on the field, so the results of pure soccer gambling have no influence from the developer. so that for me, gambling in the world of football is quite fair and very transparent.

I think for such conditions it is not only concerned with football but for all Sportbooks, remembering for things like this when talking about Casino and Sportbook it is clear that there will be differences there.
There are indeed a number of conditions where something like this happens, but I think it is included in fraud so indeed things like that are no longer related to gambling, but there really is something higher than that because the parties involved are also bigger.

I think I have to agree with your idea and I believe that soccer betting is more transparent and very more clear than casino betting and most times especially when I'm making serious losses, I just end up concluding that the Boise isn't fair no matter how transparent the casino might claim to be.
And I see always prefer more of soccer betting if for nothing, then for the fact that we don't have to compete against the house where it might seem as if the house might be having more edge a d advantage than the gambler but rather we will be betting on a team playing and competing with another team and by so doing, making it more fair and transparent.

That's somewhat right but as the others have said already they can still adjust the provided odds similarly to how casinos earn a certain amount based on the player's wager.

The sportsbooks can still earn money both ways but they're likely going to profit more whenever the favorites lose because tons of parlays will lose as well on top of the single bets.

We know that the house is the biggest winner over gamblers. But even so, we still have the chance to win even if it's not a big win because when we place sports bets for the right team, we will win and vice versa. To be able to win at sports betting, we must have sufficient skills and knowledge so that we can choose the right team later. But we also have to remember that even though we can choose the team, we must know that in the middle of a match, the game's direction can change and cause the team we choose to lose.

That's the basic thing in sports betting including football, bookmakers are not involved in determining which team will get big or small odds because all that is available on their betting site is only what has been determined by the betting provider's service, the difference in odds between bookmakers may be because using a different service provider but the difference will not be significant because it is only under 0.1%.
However, people who like casino games will not care about the losses they suffer because they will have more fun playing casino games than sports betting, because each type of gambling has its own challenges that are difficult to compare because everything is only based on individual preferences.

I am a football fan and any prediction is still a gamble for me. :) Football is a battle of tactics and skill between two teams of 11 players. Sometimes we analyze the previous matches well and predict the results of the current matches correctly, but sometimes a coach can destroy our predictions if he analyzes the tactics of the team that is the favorite of the match well. A mind within a mind, a dream within a dream. Also, football players may not be on their day sometimes. So, it is not always easy to make the correct prediction as there are so many factors that affect the result.

I have to disagree with this it's not all about the odds provider, the sportsbooks can still adjust the odds significantly and the difference can be more than 1%, one example would be by comparing the odds between Stake and Sportsbet they both are using the same odds provider but you'll notice that one of the two would offer better odds on the BTTS market. This can also happen when comparing odds between different providers that's why others would go the extra mile and shop for the best odds before placing their bet.

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You are correct and not only in Football, the above logic works well with Soccer as well /s.

It works on every sports betting platform and game, which is why they give such an odd percentage of reward to those who are likely to lose.
Let's take an example below to help you understand how casinos still make money on this transparent system.

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Here you see two teams with 3 possible outcomes:
1. Arsenal wins
2. Southampton wins
3. Draw

Odds are:
1. 1.16 x your bet amount
2. 13 x your bet amount
3. 6.50 x your bet amount

You see the most appealing ones are those which are unlikely to happen. People will bet and lose their money while the casino has to pay just .16 for the correct bet.
Also, there is a house edge always and all these casinos make a huge amount of money which is why they find people with huge followings to post about them on social media or advertise with them.

Of course we casino players care about our losses even if it's only a small amount of money because it takes a long time and hard work only to earn it. I think the reason why we despair is because our aim to play is the profit but for those who just play for fun, they will not really worry about their losses. Sports betting is not played by us bettors but it does not mean that it wasn't enjoyable anymore.

It is still, because we can watch our favorite players in real-time. The fun factor can increase even more once we win our bets. The challenge in casino games is they are hard to win but the challenge in sports betting is that we are require to do an analysis if we want to possibly win. That can also act as a comparison.

Football does have many more binary - simple win or lose - bets than many other sports out there. You've got things like Double Chance, Both Teams to Score, Over / Under Bets, etc. However you should also be aware that the bookmakers bake a nice buffer amount into every bet, so if they calculate the win odds at 1.2, then they will be selling you the bet at 1.25 or 1.3, but it will stay competitive across the sportbooks - another way to look at it is their margin of error. They are very good at predicting bets over the long run, otherwise they would not stay in business for so long, but there is definitely more potential to earn money from these sort of bets because they do not have control of the end result like casino games.

Yeah, but it's still depends in the odds, though if you bet on the winning team, but losses on the point spread - +, then your bet losses as well. If you just bet straight on the winning team, casinos don't usually put huge prizes on the favourite teams - so, it doesn't look like the casino losses anyway.
When you bet in the underdog, there will be a bigger prize but definitely a small chances of winning.

There are not any specific with football or soccer only but also for all sport betting every one will bet for the team have better perform by looking current standing in football or NBA and last games result. But not all running well due has quit well performance with any football team some time unpredictable with team has good performance loss in the match. Likely with football betting have excited offering on multiple betting or we bet on several matches then get higher odd or profit return if our betting is right and win. Choose with top perform team have little odds and you will not interested if you can see with sport or soccer betting.

Likewise with any gambling game, it would always be between the gambler and the site/casino. The games are just tools to determine which would be victorious whether it is you orthe platform, and this is applicable to sportsbetting itself. A more practical example is; if your bet won, would it be loss to the team aside from their standing on the game itself? It would be other players or the site itself who would pay for your winnings. Also, this is not limited to football alone, or sports betting in general, this speaks to majority of the gambling games except for those which are peer to peer arranged 'coz as its name suggests, outcome will be between the players who bet;one would win, the other one loses. This is just how things work in this industry, no need to be upset or confused.

There are also bookmakers that are offering Exchange bets. In this case they take a slightly percentage from winning bets, no matters what happens.
Its an arbitrage for the bookmakers but they dont care of you win too much since they Will take Money only from winners. But... If you win too much they are asking a big chunk from your win (if you know exchange bets...you know very well about the site I am talking ..)
Even if they have extremely high fees, people are still betting there!

For sure, both have different uniqueness. whether it's casino games or sportsbook and one of them is football. if we talk about which one is fairer, then the answers are very diverse. all gamblers, have their respective hobbies and are no exception.

From the point of view of casino games, all types of games have been designed in such a way and only a few gamblers are lucky to win the betting session. but when luck is on your side, the prizes you get can be fantastic, or we often say win the jackpot. on the football betting side, you will be offered a different game. all you need to do is, choose a team that you will support. Or, you can choose another available option.

However, do not assume that it is easy. because everything has a risk. and for sure, the house doesn't want to lose to the gambler. that is why, there are odds in football betting and they all vary depending on the teams competing. well, the difference is, in sportsbook betting you need good insight, expertise, and analytical foresight. For casino games, you only need luck. in essence, just the same, the chance of losing is always a risk for gamblers.

Profitable sport bettors are banned or limited from every single casino they use and even if casinos have become incredibly popular lately there is still a limited number of them, so sport bettors still need a place where to make their bets, and those betting exchanges are the answer, even if the fees are high the only thing a sport bettor needs to do to remain profitable is to up their game, and since they are now competing against a bunch of newbies out there instead of competing against casinos, this may not be as hard for them as it could seem at first glance.

That’s how business works. The reason why when one bets and make profits, he will not get the total profits since the casino itself will already deduct the percentage that is intended for it in the first place. So regardless if the players make consistent profits, knowing there’s still the house edge, the house will still have the win-win scenario over the players. That’s why casinos would never fall easily into bankruptcy.

Yes the bookmaker will only win your money if you lose because if you win he will have to pay you with its money but I don't understand why you think it's different at gambling games. You will only earn money if you win at those games, not if you lose. But you're wrong if you think they can't tamper the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers lose more than they win, they just need to offer payouts lower to what it should be if there was no commission. For example if they think a team has half chances to win, they will offer to pay you 0.9:1 for a bet on this team instead of 1:1 like for a common gambling game.

Congratulations on realizing how sportsbetting works.

What you just mentioned, as I presume was already mentioned by a couple blokes in here, is not only situated and isolated with football, that is how the whole enterprise of sportsbetting works. You put your faith in your favorite team, hope for the best, and either profit or lose in the process. Sure there are bookies but all they really do is to be the commonplace where bets and pays are situated, they don't hold any form of control over the match or the game and are just there to take bets and pay winners. Bookies being able to tamper with the games as you put it is next to impossible, since most games that are being bet on are high-class title matches where  lot of things besides money is at stake and thus fixing will not be possible.

Most of the gamblers who had playing of sports bet are from the football background. Either they must be a fan or Football team players. Football is the only game which had huge numbers of fan base all around the world. In some countries football is not the game played by the country government, but the football players had the fan base for the football. When you had good knowledge about your football betting team and the players capacity. The football team and you who placed their bet on your football will win the game. It’s good system which allow you to earn more money from the football knowledge. We need update our knowledge towards the betting and on the football. Or else the winning will back to the gambling website by the name of the loss. So you need to be update and up to date in football betting.

You could be right except where some fans of football team or bettors complain of match fixing but on a larger scale, it is more possible that manipulation is reduced. The most part of your post is on comparison of soccer or football betting and casino games. Of course their modus are different, you are playing against the owner of a casino while in football you betting based on the general performance of the team and their place in the league table. Apart from visual soccer that is programmed, football is real and realistic, it can be considered as a provably fair game because its activities is open to the public with video assistant referees (VAR) giving more credence to its fair nature.

Very correct on that football or soccer as some may call it depending on the country in which the game is played, soccer is very real and you can predict games in sport betting without even you being a football lover, you just have to check on the player and teams stats of the two clubs playing and with the bookmakers already making it easier with the odds, you could go and pick the lesser odds as those teams are the ones with the more likely chance to a win the match but the funny thing is that these bookmakers actually get these odds all wrong sometimes and mislead gambler to choosing the wrong teams.

Well, as much as I try to believe that you are right, you are actually wrong..
When it comes to games like slot and others, gamblers are actually gambling against the game system built by the provider of that game, not particularly against the casino, casino only provides the platform connecting the gamblers to the game provider through the game the gambler play.

Thought this is different for casino's original games, as games in this category actually belongs to the casino itself, so any player playing any of those games are playing against the casino.

And for sports betting in general - not limited to football alone - the bettor is actually betting against other bettors, and not necessarily against the casino itself, like it is with slot games, casinos act as escrow and provide a platform for fans from both side to bet.

Yes, and your chances of winning will be based on the player's luck as well but compared to other provably fair games, you can possibly have an advantage if football betting because you can pick where to bet based on the strength and previous performances of the team.
If you are fully equipped with knowledge about this sport, you can pick where to bet easily though some matches are really challenging.

^That is the point and I agree.
Betting on the underdog can be tempting due to the potential for a larger payout, but keep in mind the lower likelihood of winning. Just like while betting on the favorite may not yield as big of a payout, there is a possibility of winning. Just understand the odds and risks involved in any type of betting, because the fact is that the casino always has an edge in these types of games, but that does not mean that you cannot have some fun and potentially come out ahead if luck is on your side.

This is also the reason on why sportsbetting has some sort of odds against a dominating team.

For example, if a matchup between a strong team and a weaker team happened, obviously the odds of the former team winning is higher compared to the latter. In order to balance this out, some sports casino place odds in which you only get a percentage of your winnings in the event that the stronger team won. This has to be done in order to balance out teams competing with each other.

Though this may be the case, I do agree that sports betting is more difficult to manipulate since the game happens live. The only exception here is if the game is fixed but this rarely happens.

You would never really know, even the matches from big titles can be fixed since there can be mafias who might buy specific players or even the teams and make them lose a game only for the sake of themselves winning a bet, they wouldn't care paying millions of dollars for the fixing of the match since they will probably get billions in return for that.

It's obviously true that sportsbooks themselves have nothing to do with sports events as they can literally have no influence on them and casinos aren't so rich that they can fix matches only for themselves to have an advantage.

Maybe that's what distinguishes sports betting gambling from playing casino gambling, in fact if OP knows there is a difference between the two for example as an example if playing a casino gambling machine that may be fair will clearly have more losses than betting sports betting, 1000 rounds on gambling machines is usually more losses compared to wins even if you choose casino gambling with 100 plays maybe you have only won once, but if you bet on 100 soccer matches I am sure you can win at least 30 or 70 matches, this is clearly different

Play casino games wisely and also be prepared to lose money, likewise sports betting has the same risk but the difference between the two is that sports betting has less risk than playing casino. that is why people only have fun with casino games and take it even more seriously when they bet on sports like football.

You nailed it, folks! Football gambling? It's all about the team, and the house wins if they lose. But there's more to it, believe me. Sometimes, outside forces mess with the team's performance. Injuries, weather, all kinds of stuff. And the referee? They can be a game-changer.

That's gambling for you. Taking chances, fingers crossed, and hoping for the best.

It's not just football but sports betting in general. Others sports like boxing, cricket, horse racing are involved too.
In fact there's also even betting such BTC price prediction and other crypto price prediction.
All of these are bets where the casino's cannot manipulate much and is preferred by many gamblers.

I myself I do more of football betting that casino. Both casino betting and football betting involve some risks which is loosing and getting addicted. In football, there are higher chances of winning than in casino game even though the wining sometimes depends on the team performance and sometimes it depends on the decisions of the referee. But in the case of referee VAR assist in making the decisions of the referees fair. It can dictate an offside line.

I don't think the casino tempers with slot games because basically they are provably fair and they could be sued with caught in such act and I believe a reputable casino already has alot of losing customers that they might be earning from and there is no need trying to cheat their customers, because they already have a reputation to protect.

I also agree with you about soccer gambling because it looks more transparent to me and I also feel more confident when I play on soccer games and there are times I feel cheated in slot especially when the losses are too much and that's why I'm learning how and when to stop.

Yes there have been several cases about match fixes and cheating that happened on tournaments and bigger games, leagues. We think it's not possible because their careers are already on the spotlight but it's hard to refuse the mafia because they are known to be bad guys. They always get what they want and you already know what can happen to you if you don't follow their orders.

Yes, that is you will be killed or your family. Sportsbooks is an independent business but we never know, what if some of them are also placing a bet? And have connections from the inside. Gambling business is profitable so they do have the money to pay for someone else, only to gain more advantage.

Lol, I just realized how I never thought about how big of an influence can the decisions of the referee can make in a football match, I mean, let's suppose the best player in a team does a diving tackle and even if it isn't too harsh, the referee goes ahead and gives them a red card and boom, he is out of the ground all of a sudden.

That can totally change the game and even if the match was in your favour first, it will become the opposite in a matter of minutes. The opponent will surely use this opportunity in their favour and you might lose a winning match just because of that one decision made by the referee.

Obviously, the casino has still its edge even in sports betting. And most likely, whether we win or lose, the casino is still getting the win-win scenario. That’s probably how gambling casinos are designed, the house will always win while leaving the players at a losing end. So even in football where we get high chances of winning particularly if we bet on highly winning team, even if we win we won’t actually gain completely huge profits because the casino has already anticipated the result in every game.

It seems that sports betting can provide a greater chance of winning than casino betting because if we can get valid information to help our analysis find the right team, we can win. But on the other hand, if we can't get that info, we won't win unless something changes happen during the game that can make us win accidentally. As long as the referee can honestly decide something in the match, we don't need to worry if the match is rigged.

They can do that but they are risking their jobs too. These referees are not free to just call whatever they want because afterwards they can be investigated especially if there is proof that they are doing their job wrong. The team or player who was called a red card could file a protest and let the referee answer his mistake. Big leagues that are being televised on local television cannot just ignore this kind of circumstance because it may lead to abuse and we won't have a good sport anymore.

But back to OP's question, you are right, I do prefer sports gambling and betting on the team behind it or player stats instead of just playing the traditional casino games. It's not just about the losing streak but it also gets boring for a long time unlike sports gambling like football, basketball, or whichever sport we prefer, there are changes in players, rosters, and more that could make a difference on who we bet for.

To bet on football successfully one needs to stay alive with the current events of the discipline a player should be able to understand different competitions teams and players of interest. There are players whose individual performance on offense or defense determines the overall performance of the team they play for. Keeping an eye on the fitness, form and transfer of such players can greatly help a punter in making accurate predictions. A team is on a winning or losing streak when it comes to betting but there is always the possibility of a change of fortune somewhere around the corner.

Yep that's why it becomes more interesting to bet on football, it makes us more excited because a lot of things are about to happen, we just need to make a closer observation about the team preparation and relationship as well, they need to be harmonious so that the defenses and offenses can be executed properly. It is a long time game and it is worth to watch especially if it is finals of course.

You bet on many things it can be how many goals a team makes, which team wins and who is the man of the match and so on, based on the type of game being bet on. But it is still betting since you are putting your money in for a game of chance. So it is not just when your team loses, you could be betting on some other "situation"

What the hell does that mean? No casino that is reputed here has been cheating its members or attempting to rig the system. Would like to know what made you think that way. It is a assumption that many losing gamblers make to reduce their guilt associated with losing money. ::)

In my opinion, the degree of excitement depends on what one is betting for. For example, during the World Cup, betting higher than usual, I worry a lot about the upcoming match, because in those moments I want to win. But when I bet on an ordinary match in the Russian premier league, I don't worry too much and bet mostly for fun.

You’re right, as a matter of fact, In football betting, you have varieties of options to choose your bet from

For example, you may decide not to place your bet on a particular team to win, you may bet on goal ranges


For example, you can bet on “over 1.5” goals to mean you’re predicting for the match to end with atleast “two goals”

With this bet, irrespective of which team scores the two goals, you’ll have your winning

The two goals could come from just one team or from
 both together, in any case, you need atleast two goals from the entire match

It makes football more fun and interesting as a gambler has variety of options to choose from

Personally I prefer to make bets with the same amount of money each time precisely to avoid this, as if you bet a lot of money on a single match then you no longer enjoy the game and instead you are suffering because you really need to win your bet, and in that case then why bet at all? Betting should be fun and be a form of entertainment, and if you are not having any of it due to the size of your bet then it is time to decrease it to avoid this.

Wrong. Since there are a lot of bettors, the task of the bookmaker is to balance the accepted bets in such a way that the bookmaker is in the black for any outcome of a sporting event. They don't even have to be super-successful at forecasting to do this (they are, though). This can be regarded as the fact that the players play against each other and the bookmaker takes his percentage for organizing the game.

Football betting for sure is way much preferable than the casino game reason been that those casino game are control by a computer system and every game you play is based on luck while on football betting you can actually make your own research on the teams and decide through the gather information the appropriate result to get from that particular football match.

There is a proverb in the English language that says, "The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.", so when we see something from where we stand, we always think that the other side is obviously better than where we are, but that's not actually the case. Every place or thing has its significance and importance.

Sports betting is not as easy as it may seem, and though it isn't totally dependent on luck, it's very difficult to be able to choose the correct outcomes of each match and you need to have a lot of knowledge and experience to be successful in that.

And besides this we also need to take into consideration that people on average are not good at the things they dislike, so not only you need to have a high understanding of math, statistics and probabilities, you also need to like them, and as we know many people do not really like math and if given the choice they will try to avoid them as much as they can, something which is not possible for anyone that desires to become a successful sport bettor.

There is something that will always help us in football when we are fans, and that is that if we know the players, we know what their abilities are when we compare the players of the other team, by cakldiad, technique and speed, apart from the Strategies are easy to deduce first for us before a technical director, in local Colombian soccer a fan yelled at a technical director the player that I had to change (they were losing) the technical director listened to him, changed him, the player who he came in and scored the goal and his team won, the director gave him a thumbs up gesture of thanks, then sometimes we as fans know more details because we are very involved in this football thing and if the person plays football then he knows more technical details.

Sport betting is for the whole team and not for a player. So whenever a gambler placed a bet on sport (football in particular) the supported team has to do well if not the bettor would loss his money or bet. Because in a live sport you are not betting with bot. That is why whenever you are betting a game you to look the squad of the team. If the opponent squad is better than your team at the time, bet for the best team and make your winning from there.

When it comes to gambling things are never that simple, while betting on the best teams seems like a sure fire way to win over the long term, the casinos know this is a tendency of many newbie gamblers, so the favorite is always given odds which are not as attractive as they should be, and this means that over the long term if you bet only on the best teams or players you will still lose money anyway due to the odds that were given to you.

If you think football betting is a little bit too complicated and confusing for you maybe you should try a simpler sport that does not have as many variables, one example of this is boxing, in which you do not have to take into account the performance of tens of players in order to come to a conclusion about who could win the match, in boxing you only need to keep track the performance of two people, massively simplifying the process of trying to determine who could win, and once you are comfortable making predictions about boxing you could try a more complicated sport.

Yeah, football betting is indeed exciting, personally for me, watching a football game is not so much fun without staking some cash, i think in every sports, football is the most popular, and it's popularity makes it one of the most easiest sports to bet on, I can tell you that I started betting on football while I was a complete novice to both gambling and sports, I personally find betting on football more easier than doing so on any other sports, I don't know if other users feel same way, but all the same, it is always good and very important to follow every sports we are interested in, closely, so as to better our chances of winning more bets than we loose.

Sometimes having a winning on sport bet is lucky because I have book some matches before then that I do not know much about football. After I book the matches and showed it to some random friends they laughed at me that non  of the team I choose to win would ever win that the match is somehow complicated and it will be difficult for the team I select to have straight win to win because they were not in good form. Since I had already played the game, I kept it to see if I would ever win the bet.
After all the matches ended, I checked the results of the matches and it was to my favour. That was how I predicted some matches without having enough knowledge about football and I won.
That's the power of luck

Fútbol arrangements have existed all their lives, I dare to think that this type of mafias has been around since the beginning of the first World Cup, what else is that they have not discovered it, but mostly corruption and fixed matches in soccer always they have existed, also now with the VAR everyone says that that is where the end of the corruption comes, I say no, if a referee marks that he saw the play he does not go to the VAR to verify, and this is another pus for him to keep making disasters with the business, these things are so difficult to control in sports that fútbol is already a pity that it is such a broad business model.

I do like soccer but there are many countries in which it is almost a religion and people worship the players on their team, personally I am not like that and I only watch some of the biggest events around the world, however in order to make it more interesting I make a bet or two and this immediately rises my interests on the games as now I have something to look forward, still the bets I make are low as it is not like I can afford to bet a fortune on each match I watch.

This is true, but making football a religion, i think is more of an individual thing than regional or country, there is no country in this world where you wont find some people who worship soccer like its a religion or some gods, this is very normal as it just shows how much they love the game, except it becomes an addiction in the sense that it begins to affect other parts of their lives negatively, this is the level it becomes bad, and in such a situation, I will advice the party involved to try and reduce their soccer followership, or seek help if they discover they just cant. 

Casinos might be facing a challenge of being manipulated, but sportsbetting could be worst... Cus when you see the likes of smaller clubs in Thier local leagues playing with every fixed prediction, it'll only tell anyone that games could be rigged on all cost, be it casino or sports.
I'm not gonna say that it's actually happening in major leagues yunno... When it comes to that, it's strictly based on a great uncertainty; previewing a head-to-head could also put you on a great advantage too.

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Yes, better devote your time in a one-to-one athlete sports event if you can't afford to follow a lot of athletes.
However, even 2 athletes involve like in boxing, there are still blind spots for a speculator.
This includes the actual performance of the athlete, their strategies, the promoter's plans, home advantage and so on.
But the bottomline here in sportsbetting, bet if you are familiar and comfortable with the sports.
You won't place a bet on a sports you don't know the athletes involve, it means, you are playing more on your luck on this case.
And if you think there's fixing involve, then, don't bet. As simple as that. But such act is hard to determine as you will only know it after the event.

Yeah I presume you are right but an addiction is really hard to stop and once this habit of worshipping soccer sinks into the blood is not easy to let go it. As for making soccer a religion, I agree that its an individual thing but countries like Brazil takes this soccer as religion to another level as the nation itself is obsessed with soccer and its played and watched by almost everyone, I would even say its part of the curriculum in school but that would be an over exaggeration ;D but you can actually relate to what am saying.

I generally agree with the point, but I would like to add this. Betting is a fun activity for all of us, but this activity turns into addiction and habit for some of us after a while. At this point, our behaviors turn into psychological cases. That is, to put it bluntly, the people in question may continue to bet even if they are suspicious of the gambling site or sporting event because addicted people do not exhibit rational behavior. However, I largely agree with your view. Football or sports betting are better options than casino games.

In football, no matter how a referee officiates, there's is always a team that complains about the officiating. Sometimes both teams complain. Maybe they should have been awarded a penalty or not awarded a penalty. If a player receives a red card, his teammates will say it was not a red while the opposing team will say it was a red. So that has become a normal thing in football.
The referees are allowed to make one or two mistakes when the mistake is not too obvious.
The use of VAR have reduced the rate of these errors, but they still happen though.

There are some regions or countries that are like that, one example of that is Brazil. The people from there are too crazy for football, it's like they almost worship their favorite players and they take football way too seriously. Football is also their national game, so it's probably the most loved and played sport in the country.

About individuals, there are some people who are extremely big fans of football and some footballers that literally worship them and behave like they are their god or something which isn't good at all, liking should have a limit in my opinion.

If you want to bet on football, it is advantageous if you are also interested in the game. If you are familiar with how sports operate, you will know where to place your bets and be able to predict the outcome based on the skill and strength of the players.
These days, if you are having trouble making decisions, there are also reliable predictions that you may rely on. Furthermore, even sports betting has the potential to become addictive, therefore our ability to maintain discipline and control depends on us. We should not let pressure from sports betting prevent us from enjoying ourselves.

Exactly, especially when the bettor is putting his money into something he is very passionate about.
For me, football is part of my everyday life... still at breakfast I'm reading about football and the upcoming games, during the day I talk about football among my friends and co-workers and at night I I see the results of the day, not to mention when I watch the games in real time.

So, betting is something natural, I do it because I like it and certainly my love for football also helps me a lot to be more accurate in my bets.

My biggest addiction today is football and not gambling :P

When it comes to sportsbetting as far as I know, casinos aren't really the one to decide the odds of winning. Unlike their other games in the platform which they can control the rtp in this way, it's the sole odds coming from the other source will be the basis of the players to win or lose. In this way, they also profit as well because the odds given to them will be the reference of the players who will make a bet.

Regardless of what kind of sports you are betting into, always make sure that you have enough knowledge about it so that your chances of winning will be higher. If you will impulsively bet on whatever team there is, then expect an unpleasant result because when it comes to sports, every factual information is crucial.

If the casino cheats with you in casino games then it is negative side for that casino and who engage in such activities will not benefit in the long run. Another thing I realized is that if you do sports betting, your results can easily determine whether you win or lose. directly there is no way of manipulation in sports betting in any sportsbook. But in many cases, even though various types of match fixing occur, it does not create any problem for sportsbook authority. If you are in any kind of confusion in the casino then you can choose prominent casino platform. Where you can conduct gambling with 100% confidence.

According to the unwritten rules of sportsbetting, your odds of winning when you wager on major leagues like the English Premier League, UEFA Champions League, Bungles Liga, La Liga, etc. are completely random and dependent on luck or chance. This is not the case, though, when betting on lower level leagues that are home to numerous match-fixing and illicit gambling groups. They involve the teams, the players, the coaches, and so on. Therefore, you would already be aware of which team will win in the end if you had insider information.

Sport betting is more about how educated you're are and informed about the sport you're betting on. If you don't have enough knowledge about soccer then don't bet as you'll make the wrong picks. For example yesterday champions league game I saw many choosing Manchester city.

But they almost lost the game and that's not because they played didn't play well but it's Real Madrid they were playing against that has a very strong history in the champions league and they were at home so how then did people think Manchester city can beat Real Madrid.

Sport betting has nothing to do with the casino as they don't have any influence on the game. If you know your sport very well then you can always have an advantage over any casino platform that you use to gamble and make lots of money from them.

I don't fully understand what you are saying. however, if we do not have knowledge of football itself. preferably, never try to bet on something we do not know. From this point of view, I agree with what you're saying.


Well, what you are exemplifying in this post is not quite right. because betting on sports or football, not only requires knowledge, insight, skill, and about football itself, but also involves luck. From this point of view, I do not agree with you. I think the Madrid vs City match is not as simple as you say. and not only because of the problem that Madrid has a very strong history in the champions league. if you look at the statistics of these two teams, plus watch the course of the fight, then you understand why this match was a draw. besides that, in a match you don't only rely on tactics, strategy, systems, but also luck. if City ended in a draw in yesterday's game, it doesn't mean they will lose when they play at their own headquarters.


Well, this is also a wrong analogy. I will take an example, if someone who has a lot of knowledge about football, be it players, strategies, formations, systems, coaches, or whatever, there is no guarantee that they will get an absolute win in every betting session. In football, we don't only talk about data and statistics, every result will be determined when the match is running or finished. however, I agree, that sports betting is unlike any other type of casino gaming, which is almost entirely based on luck.

All betting is gambling, either a Casino or football, or any other sports event, you need luck, skills, and patience for any of them but there are some differences in the sense that in a casino, you have to depend only on your level of skills while in football, you need your skills in a way that you have to do your own research and the history of that team before you put your money on them and as a football gambler, you have to be a fan of it, you need to know the update of what is happening and if you are lucky, you will win when it is your time and you will lost too and the same things goes with Casinos too.

How do you agree and disagree with me at the same time, sport betting doesn't rely totally on luck as I have said, to win bets you have to be well informed. An uninformed gambler might pick a small team to win the bigger team and be lucky but it rarely happens.

Most times the bigger team will always win but the form of both teams also matters as an informed Brighton would beat an out of form Chelsea so it's not always a matter of which team is bigger but inform as well which is why I said sport betting is more about be informed.

Still when betting on sport games, you need luck as you won't win without it doesn't matter if you have all the right information as wrong officiating, injuries on the field can lose you your bet. You have to be lucky for everything to go smoothly and the game ends in your favor.

I will add that you also need to have some money management skills in order to have any chance to become profitable with sport bets, as even those which may think they have a winning strategy will not last long if the bets they make are too high compared to the capital they have at hand, as it is impossible even for profitable sport bettor to avoid long losing streaks, because as we know the world of sports can be very unpredictable and upsets happen all the time.

we have to ask ourselves if there is anyone who is profitable in sports betting. because from what i could observe for some time no one can make a profit from gambling, people who considered themselves sports betting guros created youtube channels and write books and created telegram channels so that they can make profits, they don't talk how much money they put on sports betting, they don't talk about profits and losses, they don't predict the results of the games, what they do on their youtube channels and simply talk about odds, talk about over and under goals and how to bet on this market goals, how to bet on the corner market, how to bet on the card market

this is information that does not commit them to anything, that is, they are like a professor, with that they manage to earn money with their youtube channels and do not earn money with sports betting, and that is why they do not show any proof that they put money in the bet of some game, because they know that it is not profitable to make sports bets, but unfortunately every newbie and even most of the people who enter this sports betting market are fooling themselves that they can make good profits, and the result is great losses and frustrations

and at the end of the day we have more people with depression and gambling addiction, there is no such thing as profit in gambling, we have to stop thinking of impossible profit in gambling and just look at it as fun, nothing more


the person can create whatever strategy it is, at the end of the day it will fail, if you are placing bets with low odds, it does not matter how many times you hit, you only need to lose a few times to be at a loss, if you make a multibet bet you will have to rely on luck

I understand your skepticism as a great deal of those which promote themselves on youtube as successful sport bettors are lying about it, this is similar to what we find in the trading industry, in which a great deal of people claim to be successful performing this activity, but instead they earn their money by talking about trading and selling useless courses to those gullible people, so assuming successful sport bettors exist I think they are doing the same as their successful counterparts on this market, which is to remain quiet about it as a way to not bring attention to themselves.

Football gambling really depends on the match results of the club we choose. This kind of bet is more real than betting on slots, cards and so on. But soccer betting is also determined for several matches, so the chance for us to choose the wrong one is also very large. Apart from that, giving points for one club that is weaker, under or over, this will make us make the wrong choice, so that the wins for the platform owner are much bigger than the users.

The good thing about sports bets is that allow our skill to affect the results, something that is impossible on the majority of the games offered by the casinos, so if you are an expert on a particular sport and league then you can at least reduce a little bit the advantage the casino has over you, but if your skill is out of the ordinary then it is possible you could have what is needed to become a professional sport bettor, not exactly the easiest profession you can choose, but it is one that given the right set of skills can become a profitable occupation for a small minority of gamblers out there.

This is one of the most reasonable and assured bet we can make that will give us full assurance of nit experiencing any manipulation. There are so many bets and games we can choose from sport bet that is why it is very easy to bet and the result is always concrete without any differences. It is quite different from other online games that we could bet on that cam be manipulated by the team so that they can earn big as the game provider or the casino team. Sport betting is very easy to predict and we can still ask people around us about there opinion if we are not that sure of the particular game we want to bet on or support.

I agree with you in parts...

In fact, sports betting is more predictable than betting on slots, for example, but when choosing casinos with a good reputation, the chance of manipulation decreases dramatically.
Furthermore, it is prudent to bear in mind that even sports games are manipulated, as we have already had several reports of fraud involving players who consciously forced fouls, penalties, cards and even scored goals against their own team in order to benefit certain bettors. .

About betting on weaker clubs, sometimes this can be a good bet if you really believe that this club has a chance of winning, the rewards are usually much greater when playing against the odds of the house and the other players.

It is totally right that sports betting depends on our skills and experience and it is a part of gambling where the casino actually doesn't have an edge over us because the outcome is not based on a mathematical algorithm just like gambling games but it depends on the outcome of a sports event that is being carried out somewhere far away from the casino.

But, I still don't recommend anyone choosing sports betting as a professional career as it is still gambling, and we all know that there can always be two outcomes in gambling no matter how much our chances of winning are.

Choosing a favorite team or fighter isn't going to make sure you will win, it's just increase your chance to win. There are many upsets happen in all sports, so make sure the gambler need to be familiar with the team or fighter they want to bet. Blind gambling is really not recommendable because when your bet are lose, you also can't enjoy the sport because it's not your favorite sport to watch.

You are right in the sense that the bookmaker has no control over the outcome, but they work with vast amounts of information and prediction methods to determine favorable odds to offer the bet. On top of that they add a buffer margin, so if they think that the bet is worth 2.0 (in decimal format) then they would offer it at 1.9. This rough margin of error and being able to predict the majority of results with reasonable success allows them to bring in a steady profit. There are many fewer upset results than you might expect, so the bookmaker generally walks away with a profit over the long term. In areas where they don't make a profit from players, they will tweak their odds until it makes financial sense to them.

And I agree with you, many people out there have a romantic idea of what it means to become a professional gambler, and they think they can earn a lot of money by doing nothing and enjoying a life of excesses, but truth to be told to become good enough to beat the casinos you will need to study sports for years and have a very good grasp of probabilities, and even then there could be very long streaks in which you could earn nothing, and if you do not have the money to get by during that period then you will face very difficult times and maybe you could be forced to take a different job just to survive.

If anyone finds casino gambling dubious then I think sports betting is perfect for those gamblers. Because live sports here is easy to trace for any gamblers. There is no scope for the third party to be manipulated. If anyone can do good research and has a good experience in ‍sports then sports betting is good for those gamblers. Although sports betting is so easy, casino gambling is still more attractive. But it will depend entirely gambler choice.

About football betting, odds are not really criteria to focus on, many bettors know this and they don't rely on only odd, odds can deceive you. Bettors look at head to head performance, players involved in the match, team injury and fitness, zeal to win and nature of future matches ahead. I have bet a high odd game (in the number of tens) and it was successful against a very low odd of 1.45 odd and after that experience I began to understand that bookmakers may be wrong. So small odds are not likely having winning chance, you have to under study both teams to know the stronger and favourable to win.

One should not be relied upon completely on odds because a bet requires planning. Sometimes small odds can make you lose in betting while big odds can also lead you to winning port in betting. The main point here is that according to the current condition of the game, the condition of the players, their performance, considering all those things a gambler has to place his bet. There is a example of even a bet of 0.001 odds losing $1 million.

It is also important to take a look at the house edge the casino has on each match, after all you could have the best system to predict winners on a particular sport, but if the house edge is too high then it does not really matter as no one can profit from such house edge in a consistent basis, so as we can see trying to become a successful sport bettor is way more complicated than what it may seem at first sight and people need to think about it twice before they try to become a professional on that field.

There are people who wouldn't dare to bet in an online casino or its games and would rather prefer to bet on either soccer or boxing because they claim that they have to watch and supervise the match by themselves  and that they also feel more safe betting on such games rather than getting involved with casinos and looking and judging from their perspective, you'll also agree that yes, soccer games seem to be more fair and no matter how probably fair a casino  might claim to be, there is always this feeling of the house cheating you and I think the casino is always built to have more house edge over its players because no one comes to a business to make losses but profit .

Bookmakers are not wrong since they decide the odds based on previous stats and current team status and performances, they don't look at things that you've mentioned only to decide the odds of a particular match because these things don't always work, stats speak better for which team has more chances of winning, now chances don't determine the actual outcome at the end.

There are a lot of sports bettors who bet on the team or player that has lower chances of winning and the bookmaker has set higher odds for such teams or players, and sometimes, the bet works out and you win that match to get maybe 10x of your bet, but it isn't something that happens all the time.

It is just really a matter of looking at it objectively. Often gamblers are biased in their betting, it could be their favorite team, their favorite player, or just instinctively. Well, that's how gambling generally works. Gamblers bet to show their support for their team, to their players, or just for the sake of having fun. Very little is the chance that a person would go in and bet with their statistics because they want to make money, Those people are taking gambling seriously and in a perspective of business. In any gambling, there is always be an odds and one team could have the advantage over the other.  And it's true, chances could be a factor but it doesn't determine the actual outcome at the end. Anything can happen in any game.

Everything you said is correct. There are no tricks from the casino or anything suspicious that will happen because you're gambling on a real-life event that no one can control except the teams involved. It's a fair situation for both the casino and yourself as a gambler.

That's why I prefer sports betting because it's a cleaner and safer option especially if you have a good knowledge of teams and players. When you are well informed, your chances of successful bets are higher. Sometimes, I have come across odds like @1.7, @1.8, and even @2, which are relatively easy when you have a deep understanding of the players and stay updated with relevant news. This makes it easier for you to place a bet, such as wagering 0.01 BTC on an odds of 1.7 and potentially making 0.017 BTC. (That happens quite few times)

Long story short, lately I've been consistently engaging in real event betting, mostly focusing on gambling on sports events and occasionally even E-sports (Valorant games).

Sports betting is always the choice of sports fans. It brings a combination of excitement and profit. Most sports gamblers bet on their clubs or sportsmen because of their love for them, hence they want to show their loyalty and support. Some fans can even stake on their club even when know they might lose the bet because of their teams' past poor performance.

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I will always prefer to play sports bettings than normal casino games because it will be difficult to manipulate match games. The issue of match-fixing is indeed rampant in some lower league but fixing these games are complicated, expensive, and have severe consequences. A casino owner can easily manipulate his system but the betting company has to meet player or referee to fix these matches. And match-fixing is also more expensive because players or officials have to be paid for misbehaving. The club and players also risk severe punishment from their local football regulating agencies and even Fifa. All these challenges make match-fixing or result manipulation minimal.

I also prefer to bet on sports because the dealer can't cheat me, for example football sports betting matches compared to playing casinos, most sports bets we can analyze the favored clubs or teams so it's easier to make a profit than playing casino, the return on profits is much faster in sports betting than at the casino.

Mostly betting on football is on the big leagues, because usually the little leagues often have a scoring mafia, aka fixing, so don't ever try to bet on sports betting on minor league sports, that's why you need to be careful also for sports betting because not all of them can benefit as long as we know what to bet on. always research and analyze better so as not to lose money for failing to predict.

That's a compelling argument. I see where you're coming from, but are we overlooking some significant factors here?

Sports betting and casino gambling indeed differ fundamentally; however, neither is inherently less susceptible to manipulation. While casinos have mechanisms to tune the odds, sports betting is susceptible to various forms of match-fixing, often orchestrated by syndicates that operate across borders. It's an issue that transcends football, permeating various sports globally. And though these operations are risky, costly, and highly illegal, they sadly persist due to the high potential profits.

Betting on a team's performance doesn't inherently make the process "cleaner." Both forms of gambling operate within systems that are vulnerable to manipulation, whether it's tweaking odds or influencing the outcome of a match.

Isn't it better to advocate for tighter regulation across all forms of gambling, rather than assuming one is inherently more immune to manipulation than the other? What do you think?

this is a strategy I saw on this forum that casinos don't like people to do that kind of thing, I don't know if it would be correct for me to say that casinos consider it something like cheating, I confess that I don't understand how that would be considered cheating , from the case I saw here on the forum, the person bet on a game where he had an odd of @1.10 and put more than 1000$ in that game and with that he managed to get profits consecutively, but the casino limited his account and accused him of being cheating and with that the guy came to complain here on the forum, so I hope people avoid doing that because it can end badly


today there is a game between dortmund and mainz and the odds before the game were as follows: dortmund had an odd of @1.18 yes it even looked like dortmund would win the game easily since mainz had an odd of @4.00, but what is happening on the field it is unbelievable, even before the end of the 1st half, mainz already wins and by a difference of 2 goals, that is, this is one of those cases where betting against the favorite can bring a lot of profit, there are still 45 minutes left for the game to end but at this moment mainz has everything to leave the game with victory


actually in sports betting people have to put a lot of money in order to make a decent profit while in casino games people even with 0.20$ if they are lucky enough to hit a big multiplier they will be able to win a lot of money so with that it is easy to see that in the sports betting people risk more money to earn less money, of course the advantage of sports betting is that they do not depend on luck so that the person has more chances of making a profit if he has some knowledge about the game he is betting on

Not only sports fans but also gamblers who really chase after winning will do sports betting even though they don't really understand and have a lot of knowledge about the sport being bet on but when faced with the possibility of winning they will also be interested in risking some of their money.
In my opinion, past performance and current performance in a team are actually not a guarantee to be able to win matches except in prestigious sporting events, maybe you can prioritize the skills and performance of a team to make betting predictions.
Have you forgotten that every match that you place a bet on can have an unreasonable end result because in that match there is a huge amount of money at stake so it will be easy to manipulate.

It's definitely bad if someone gamble when they're not even understand and familiar with the sport, they can't see and watch the beautiful of the sport.

Well past and current performance can be used to predict the future result even though it's not 100% work, but sometime it help. If you not look from the past and current performance, how you can judge both team or fighter performance and put your bet on?

It's true there were few matches manipulated, but I believe it's only happen on a small league, not the major league.

But in reality, many gamblers do things like that where they don't have insight or knowledge about sports but also bet on a sports match.
They don't care about the beauty but all they think about is betting and winning.

But indeed, in football, past performance does not really guarantee victory, especially for the local league, so there will be a lot of manipulation that will occur.
I myself have been betting on football for quite a long time and I admit that past performance can only be a comparison, not a guarantee.

I also said that you can still count on prestigious events because there is little possibility of manipulation.

They will get nowhere if they bet on sports they know nothing about because it means they will bet randomly and put their money away. Maybe they can get lucky by doing so but luck will not always come to them.

Past performance can be additional information about how a team is developing and what it has achieved so far. And if there is a good change in that team, we can choose the team to bet on. But whatever it is, we better not bet too big, even though we know the team well, because we also have to consider if sudden changes can occur during a game and that has happened often.

We will not know which league was manipulated because there is no clear news about it and we can only guess. It's better if we don't need to think about the manipulation of the match because we don't know and it's better to watch the match while hoping that our chosen team will win.

But even though it's small, some people want to make money because we know that gambling offers that opportunity for people who want to earn money. Otherwise, there wouldn't be people who wanted to bet on sports and they were very serious about trying to make their money. And when they win the money, they will try to bet on other matches, especially if they know the match, the team, and where to play and they can do an analysis of each team. And sports betting is one of the sports bets that are very popular with many people, so everyone who wants to bet must have an analysis.

A basic thing that everyone knows about gambling is that there is uncertainty. But before betting on sports, a gambler must have a good idea of that particular sport and also have the depth knowledge about the team's players. Previous experience in this field must be able to give you an idea. It is possible to predict which team in particular is more likely to win but there is no guarantee. However, some gamblers decide to gamble without looking at these factors.

You're right, but it's not just about football. This can happen in almost all sports. Where there is no guarantee. Prediction in international matches is somewhat easy but prediction in local leagues is very difficult.

I would guess that it is a method not allowed by the rules? Maybe that would be the case, I am not entirely sure if that is the reason or not but I know that it would be something to consider. We all know that it is not going to be that great for casinos to ban people from gambling, if they do 1000 dollars for 1.10, they may win some in a row, but then they may end up losing it all.

So, if they wager 5 times and win, that's 500 dollar win, but on 6th if they lose, that's 1000 gone, so the casino is in profit. I do not understand why any casino wouldn't take that bet, let them gamble how many times in a row they want, it would be still a profit for them in the end if they do the right thing and I believe that they would lose eventually, all gamblers do.

In these bets there are many enemies of Real Madrid who help in the networks for the City to be like the Savior and avenger of them, it is something that cannot be avoided, as well as the emcoies of the fans will always be directed or redirected due to possible matchups that your team manages to win or lose, that's why many of the bets in the world are made with the heart and even though City is a very strong and very good team, I think they have to measure that Real Madrid is the defending champion , and a tie is like nothing, everything will be decided the next game back.

Betting on football is very different from gambling in a casino. You can't link it to work either, because that would be going too far. In that respect you would only end up with poker, but even there you don't have everything in your own hands and you need a good dose of luck to get some achievements. gamblers have their own ideas about certain patterns and people all have their own tastes and preferences when it comes to placing a series of bets. only common agreement is that it always leads to an empty bank account.

That is odd, casinos give bad odds to the teams or athletes that are the heavy favorites as a way to incentive gamblers to take the other side and balance their books, so someone betting over and over again on them should not be too much of a problem for casinos, now it is true that such a gambler could win a great deal of matches in a row as they are taking the safest path available to them, but casinos given enough time should still come up on top, so I find it weird some gamblers are being limited by doing such thing.

It's true what you said and indeed it's better if gamblers have more experience and knowledge in the field of sports so they can more easily do research and make predictions so gamblers must start from the beginning to learn more about the sports industry to be able to have more insight wide.
But it's usually boredom and laziness that makes gamblers not want to do it.

Yes, it has been felt by most gamblers who like to bet on sports betting, this is a normal thing in the local league and we can all be aware of what is happening in the local league so that there are many uncertain results.

This is correct. This is why I mainly bet on sports. The casino you play on doesn’t have any say on the outcome of the game. On other games (slots especially, but also sometimes live games) you might get cheated.

simply put that sports betting carries less risk than casino games. even though sports betting still depends on luck, we can still get this luck by analyzing each team we will choose.
but to make money from sports betting you also have to really carefully choose which team to bet on or at least place a safe bet like asian handicap or the underdog team to get a win that we can predict.
and if someone wants to make money from here they will usually bet on other types of sports and use multi bets to get bigger odds but with the condition that the person must know the sport he wants to place a bet on.

You are half right and half wrong about this. Because in theory it is true that the gambling platform cannot intervene in matches between two clubs, but in practice several times the gambling platform has intervened in matches by bribing players and referees which caused one of the teams that actually won to fail. It has happened several times in the league in my country, not even just players and referees, team managers and some other staff get bribes from gambling platforms to lose and it is so absurd.

but don't get me wrong, betting on football or other sports is also clean, in some football matches match fixing still occurs, although cases like this haven't been heard of for a long time

I only suggest that you are not burdened with thoughts of worry and doubt about whatever is provided by the gambling platform where you play (critical is still reasonable) because that will be your obstacle to being able to win

The risk is still there, even if it's in sports betting. Some gamblers place big money bets because they want to get big wins and are also sure of their analysis so they decide to place big money as bets. Making money from gambling is very difficult and while some people are successful at betting on sports, they will not be able to make money all the time.

Betting on multi bets can be one to win a lot of money and I have tried that but it requires more analysis to determine the team. And we also have to know the sport we want to bet on. But whatever it is, we should not take too big risks in gambling.

From time to time, there are rumors of match-fixing in some sports competitions. But this rarely happens. The last thing I remember was this.

Olympique Lyon produced one of the greatest Champions League comebacks of all time, thrashing Dinamo Zagreb 7-1 last night ( December 7, 2011) with Bafetimbi Gomis scoring four goals. Ajax lost 3-0 to Real Madrid, and Lyon’s heavy margin of victory saw them qualify at Ajax’s expense. However the ease with which Lyon scored the goals in the second half has led to a question being asked around- Was the Dinamo Zagreb-Lyon match fixed?
http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2011/12/08/dinamo-zagreb-lyon-match-fixed-domagoj-vida-wink-video-gomis-2011-champions-league-1-7/

But I remember that there was no definite decision in this discussion. If there is a possibility of match-fixing in high-level leagues and matches, the audience will catch it very easily. But in lower leagues and less important matches, there is a higher probability of match-fixing. For this reason, I prefer high-level matches and I think sports competitions are more reliable than online gambling games.

Agreed, the odds of winning are much higher if you bet with the best team. There is a tendency to bet on the popular and trending sports of the present time but before that, the squads should be checked well. Most teams have an adequate understanding of the top players. This is an important thing to do well. Whether you have good knowledge or not, it is always advisable to consider standout players while betting. If you want to win, you need to be calmer and more conscious in any decision making.

There must be another reason on why you choose sports betting more than the casino games. Could be that you are an absolute fan on that Sport your betting with. It also helps you decide better if which teams are possibly going to win and which aren't. I'm not sure if you and the OP already knows the fact that cheating can also happen in Sports Betting.

Yes, you heard it right but there is no involvement of the platform rather it's the teams who are intentionally losing their game because they are being paid. This is popularly termed as Match-Fixing. Though I think it rarely happens on major leagues. As for the casino games. I believe legit casinos are truly fair. It's only in our head that we are being cheated but it's only normal to lose more often on casino games because of the House Edge and they are high. The game also works randomly so no skills can be applied here, making the game more difficult for us to win.

Betting on your favorite team just because you are a fan of it is not the best choice, it can only be done for adrenaline before watching a match, but for a bet you need to analyze the match, see what form the teams are in, and so on. I think that you are much more likely to win in sports betting than in a casino if you are really good at the sport you want to bet on. Match-fixing is a rarity, but it is possible that this happens, I will not argue because it is quite difficult to prove it.

It is true that this is a common occurrence, however we do not have enough data to know exactly how common it is, after all this is something that remains hidden and even if it is incredibly obvious that something is going on, the participants on match fixing those matches are never going to admit it unless there is definite proof about what they did, and unless the different police agencies in your country take this issue seriously then it is never going to stop, as why would those cheaters stop fixing those matches if they have gotten away with it for so long and no effort is being made to stop them?

I like your thoughts and they are all true.
If you want to bet correctly and have the opportunity to produce victory and satisfaction, gamblers shouldn't only bet on the favorite team because the favorite team may not necessarily win when playing.
The experienced professional gambler prefers to do a lot of testing and insight so that he can bet on any team he feels has the potential to win.
The main factor that must always be owned by gamblers is how to do research and also be able to determine the right position or good predictions when betting.
If some of these factors can be owned by a gambler, then it is very likely to win every bet that is made.

It’s only your belief that there is no cheating happening in casino games (especially online ++++). That’s why I only play in landbased casinos with real cash.

I like betting on soccer because I like the game that’s true, and I know that cheating can occur and everything you would be talking about, but I can still win if I’m on the right side so that doesn’t change much. On the other hand, in casino games, I’d be specifically targeted by the casino and there is no way to know if I’m being cheated or not.

Sport betting is not what we should just assumed to be thesame as other gambling games because it's more flexible to predict as for me and there's no how you will gamble and not be satisfied with the results since you have the right to even remodifiy your bet before the end of each match, talking about the odds, they make use of bigger odds for the bigger teams because they know the outcome is almost 90% accurate to what they expected and only on rare cases you discover a big team loosing for a small opposition team and the gamblers win them big.

It is like that and that is why I really like everything that has to do with sports betting, as far as I am Concerned it should be Noted that I lost the last bet very day and it was with Madrid , because City gave him teremdaq humiliated with 4 goals , something I did not expect, because I thought that Ancelotti was Going to come out with a better strategy , I think it was all his fault, and apart from the things that I saw that they Played under a purely defensive scheme, it is something that I could not conceive , they can't play that way since their nature is focused towards full Attack , I think that was the big Flaw.

Football is a wide game, and performance is dependent on persons other than specific ways of computerized sector. Football betting is simpler and easier to predict by simply looking at the odds, which are valued by gamblers; odds are similar to leverage and lotsize in trading; the larger the odd, the higher the profits, and one can readily determine the winning side. Unlike casinos, which take longer and require you to be familiar with the system before betting. Football requires one to examine the team's historical performance as well as the league's statistical analysis before placing bets.

I'm fairly confident that online casinos who have built their reputation and are generally considered the most trusted ones would not dare cheat their customers in broad daylight. Perhaps they would make ithard for the winners to claim huge prizes, but cheating? There probably are a lot of auditors and reviewers playing on these platforms at a given time, and if they, the online casino, got caught doing fishy things, there'd be evidence and people will lose trust on them.


Huge platforms would not risk it for pennies. They'd hinder the huge wins from getting claimed, but I don't think they would prevent small winners from getting lucky because that's how they build their reputation.

For me things when it comes to sports betting and exclusively football is something different, firstly because it is where I think there are more chances of winning, secondly the bad thing is that if we really like a particular team we are guided a lot by the team of our preference and mistakes are often made there, I do not deny it, I have let myself be carried away by those feelings and I have lost, with Madrid it happened to me when they played against CITY, but I still do not regret it and I would support Madrid again, I also realized that the one who failed here was Ancelotti for putting a strategy out of context of what the game was.

But what do you mean by saying that you would support Madrid again? When it is your favorite team but you believe that they won't win the game against a stronger Manchester City, there is no point in betting on them anyway. It is exactly as you said that when sports betting is supposed to be successful, you actually need to ignore whether you like a team more than others. The only thing that counts is whether you feel confident about choosing the right outcome regardless of personal preferences or sympathy. Sure if the odds are good it can still make sense to choose a team that is an underdog, but this season I think most people would have chosen Manchester City because their performance peaked in the right moment this season.

If odd is just what make prediction easy to win in football betting that mean every body who bet will win the game that he predict. This is not so because I have seen many lower odds losing game when the big odd team that people don't expect will win. Gamblers have this believe like if a team has big odd it means they may lose like example 1:50 against 12 odd, but it is not always the case for that to happen. Taking the risk is gambling because it is luck base.

Of course, and I would bet on Real Madrid again whatever the team, because one thing is that the team plays under the direction of a completely wrong strategy, what I'm trying to say is that here in this game, who is Ancelotti? he was wrong, and the style of football that Madrid showed did not hold up to the strategy that City showed, here Pep Guardila played a strategy that he easily could against a Madrid that seemed to have everything, but the point was that when they played they trusted each other other Other Although I liked the City that won the UCL, I think that things in football are taking a good turn, the next UCL promises.

The way things look, it may be that City have a very complete team, now Madrid is trusting more in what they have, in their players, they are not eager to buy so many players because they know that anything has good substitutes For now I have not seen that they have big movements, but if they can do great things with the team they have, for example Rodrygo, Vinicius, they are players who can do very well alongside Camavinga, Madrid still has very good players.

Most of what you said is true, that in soccer gambling there is no term for adjustments or adjustments made by the casino system, but the results depend on the soccer team itself regarding winnings in gambling. But no one knows about some of the cases that have occurred regarding match fixing in football, whether there is involvement of gambling sites or not because we may not have data to prove it.

The reason online casino sites are much cleaner in handling soccer bets because they don't regulate the match system. Football is not completely clean and there are always some clubs that escape regulation against their cheating, but in the end have to deal with the law as happened with Juventus last season.