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Let's be honest, market do not follow any rules. There is no rule or law that says BTC should reach another ATH next cycle and next after. What if 69K was the maximum it could reach, and for the next years or decades it will be mostly fluctuating between 15k and let's say 40k.

So, let's collect here the reasons why there will be ATH for BTC.
Name one (at least) reason, please.  

Some reasons collected so far:

1. "More than 90% of the people in this world has not yet bought bitcoin, do not worry, the adoption is still continuing. You will still see bitcoin at $100000 ane more."
2. "... as long as fiat inflation is still happening (which means a decrease in purchasing power), you can rest assured that assets like Bitcoin will keep going strong."
3. "We might see multiple ATH in the future once fiat explode. Bitcoin is the alternative and safe haven for people to escape inflation."

Bitcoin will get to all-time-high again.

This is not about trading and is not related to trading. Go down the thread and you will see move topic, move it to speculation board.

More than 90% of the people in this world has not yet bought bitcoin, do not worry, the adoption is still continuing. You will still see bitcoin at $100000 ane more.

Not late to buy.

Isn't this contradictory to your first paragraph? Let's just say that there will be no ATH and the price will fluctuate between 15k and 40k as you mentioned above, what is wrong with that? You can still use Bitcoin as usual. You can trade, DCA, and make profits through other means other than chasing new heights if that's what you're worried about. It's not like the coins become worthless if it doesn't make new ATH every 4 years or so.

That being said, as long as fiat inflation is still happening (which means a decrease in purchasing power), you can rest assured that assets like Bitcoin will keep going strong.

You are very correct, but I do not think it is time to talk like this about bitcoin because bitcoin has not failed for once not to reach all-time-high in one cycle, I mean in every 4 years after halving. Bitcoin has always got to all-time-high. But maybe there would be a time the max adoption would be huge and all-time-high may be hard to reach but having huge marketcap. The price will still fluctuate in a way that people can still hold and make money.

True I also never doubted Bitcoin and it's only a matter of time to see Bitcoin reach ATH,
but back again we never know exactly when it will happen,
so it's better to be patient and keep up with the progress.

Perhaps, there is no rule or law that says it turns to zero, the same thing that there is a chance to make another history and another ATH.
We can't draw assumptions, not in a case where we know that Bitcoin is beyond unpredictable. Because as long as the community trusting and keep trading Bitcoin, you can't say it was impossible as it all possible. In fact, we thought before that $20k is impossible but it rallies more than that price and now, we are looking forward to seeing $100k in the future.

Let’s be honest and consider how low the price of Bitcoin compared on its total supply. Bitcoin is scarce while fiat unlimited print is now suffering the repercussion of bloating supply. Bitcoin is performing in good times and bad time of global economy. Only time will tell which most people realize how worthless the fiat and what they are missing for not owning a piece of Bitcoin.

We might see multiple ATH in the future once fiat explode. Bitcoin is the alternative and safe haven for people to escape inflation.

I think no, it is not contradictory. I think BTC becoming more like an asset rather than a payment method (money, currency etc). An asset fluctuating between ~15k and ~40k can't be money to use everyday. I mean as far as I understand it.

Bitcoin is the only asset that really has a limit of 21 million. This is an important advantage that e.g. gold, silver or other precious metals do not have. This seems to me to be an important reason why we might see a new ATH again at some point. Sure, even this advantage is no guarantee for a new ATH, but currently nothing really speaks against Bitcoin reaching a new ATH at some point, in my opinion.  ;)

But if you look at it's past history, every 4 years we will get into a bull and new all time high.

So are you saying that it's going to break the pattern? As we all know that during the bitcoin block halving, it lowers the supply. And just by the basic economic law, lower supply with high demand = high prices.

I doubt that your argument will happen as it the price of bitcoin is going to be stable.

Apart from having to be patient to see ATH again on Bitcoin, I think everyone also needs to see some things that can influence Bitcoin's increase in the market so that there is a little better hope when being patient even though the certainty cannot be fully measured for that, so I prefer see developments that are likely to occur while making purchases at certain moments such as during a price correction.

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Seems like way too many are concerned more about the price and the gain in $ than realizing Bitcoin will work as intended by Satoshi even at $100 or $100k.
I remember Bitcoin being called "A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System" not a quadruple your money every cycle earning scheme.

BTC are destined to rise in price. The reason for which I am so confident about this statement is because Bitcoins are limited in numbers, and the rise among people to acquire Bitcoins is increasing. Currently the price and marketcap is enough to prove that Bitcoins will rise. So I would say, don’t greed and think more, whenever price falls just try to accumulate as many Bitcoins as you can and hold it for long term. Definitely we will see an ATH price this year.

Then we have nothing to do with it because first Bitcoin was made just for us to send/recieve or transact with it , this was not made as an investment it was just the price goes up. That is why always invest what you can afford to lose but for now it is not that possible because first there will be halving next year and the mass adoption of bitcoin is increasing per year so the price is no where to go.

To be fair, bitcoin is still a relatively new asset, and bitcoin's future is uncertain, so there's still a chance it won't hit ATH even though the odds of that happening are very low. But as investors in bitcoin, we have the right to expect bitcoin to appreciate and bring more benefits to us. Bitcoin is doing very well, and if it maintains its current momentum, a price increase is quite sure.
Opportunity is always hidden in risk, and if someone can take the risk, they can find opportunities that others don't see. Bitcoin is similar, rewards should only be given to those who deserve it.

Once gold was money, now it is an investing tool. So is BTC.

The OP has a point. Perhaps he worries to the extreme, but I see the point that the future need not repeat the past.

The trend of bitcoin from the beginning has been to rise in price and it is normal to assume that it will continue to do so, not only because of trend following, but because of what bitcoin is, a decentralised, limited electronic asset that does not increase its supply when the price rises.

Therefore, it is normal to assume the most probable, without ruling out the improbable, and in this case the most probable with a very high probability is that the price of bitcoin will continue to rise, and continue to break records, because of the above and because fiat currencies will continue to devalue.

To the specific question he poses, I don't worry about bitcoin never making a new ATH, because I consider it extremely unlikely, and in that case I would consider what to do, maybe ask for a job at McDonald's lol.

I'd also point out that as long as Bitcoin's inflation drops in half every 4 years, as programmed, then there isn't a need for increased participation into the network for a new ATH.

Just maintaining the same demand and supply that currently exists is what helps to drive up price, as we have seen in 2016 and 2020. While I'm personally not a big believer of the average Westerner dumping stable (enough) fiat currencies for Bitcoin, the reality remains that in hyper-inflationary countries, these users don't have much of an alternative store of wealth that can be used for payments other than Bitcoin.


I'm also going to say that sure, price could be in the range you referenced for a decade or longer. After all Gold was in a range for a decade between $1K and $2K. The difference being that it maintained it's high valuation ie >$1K, after previously being valued between $250 and $750 in the 80s and 90s, which means it was/is still a good store of value, hence it eventually did make a new ATH even if it took a long time again.

Not gonna argue on this one but you do have a point. Moreover, let's point your argument between gold, gold was way have more supply compare to that of Bitcoin, at 21 million capped minus those who are lost in circulation, that's the advantage plus the mining difficulty and halving periods. I'm not saying it's not possible to be on this point but there are lot of more room for growth for Bitcoin.

Correct, OP does have a point, there are no specific rules on cryptocurrencies, however, historical graphs have shown otherwise, thus, we expect that Bitcoin will eventually hit another ATH in a few years. We're not guaranteed that it'll happen, but it is possible. However, even if we suppose that doesn't happen, I'd be satisfied with a price ranging from $45,000 to $50,000, since that's almost double my DCA. My average price acquisition is at $28,000, thus, I'd still be at decent profit and I'm satisfied with that, but as I mentioned earlier, chances are that Bitcoin reaches a new ATH within the next few years.

Let's be honest and say that maybe 1% or at best 2% of those who own Bitcoin understand why Bitcoin exists at all, and even not all of them use it at least occasionally as a currency. The price has become almost the only important factor that is discussed, and as the next halving approaches, the question posed by the OP is more and more relevant.

It would be really interesting to see what would happen if, after the next halving in 2024, there is no new ATH -  the headlines would probably be screaming "Bitcoin is finally dead" from all the front pages. Angry masses of investors would curse Satoshi and fire up mining machines, some new new/old shitcoin would declare itself crypto king, and Mr. Mars would finally set off on his super rocket and disappear somewhere halfway to Mars...

It's okay if, after its last ATH price, bitcoin will rarely reach its new ATH in the future due to an adoption process that can explode at any time.
But that won't stop bitcoin believers from accumulating more bitcoins as they continue to believe that bitcoin will create new ATH again in the future.
Even though ATH may not happen in the next few years, people will definitely hold onto their bitcoins and look for ways to collect more.
And as long as bitcoins can still be an investment for people, they will still try to be able to have more bitcoins.

A really nice and logical question. Personally, I think this is a possible possibility, although it is ruled out by most people for many reasons.

In addition to the reasons that you collected in the main topic, I see that there is a strong reason that may not have been mentioned until now, which is the historical necessity for the development of mankind. If we read the development of the financial system of mankind, we find that it always moves from an old system to a more developed system.

This makes us certain that all governments will eventually adopt Bitcoin and this means that the price of Bitcoin will continue to rise and exceed the previous ATH as global adoption continues and increases.

In my opinion, the supply cap is not enough to guarantee that bitcoin will rise in price and hit a new ATH, it is more important about its demand. I mean, even if bitcoin has a limited supply but its demand is not high, people don't value it, it can't go up in price. Supply and demand need to work together, higher demand than supply is enough to trigger higher bitcoin prices in the future. So, whether bitcoin goes up in price and hits a new ATH is entirely up to us.

I am sure that bitcoin will reach new ATH again at least in the next halving period. Usually, when a halving occurs, the bitcoin price increases very significantly and even prints new ATH. Moreover, the Bitcoin halving plays an important role in ensuring that the supply of BTC is limited so that it can inhibit inflation against bitcoin.

Then what's the problem?
If you don't want to use bitcoin as a means of payment because of its price volatility, then you can use it as an investment or trading asset.

But whatever your assumptions about bitcoin, I think you just have to admit that it qualifies as a currency. Whether you want to use it or not is up to you, but bitcoin is a currency worth considering.

BTC is still a currency, if you go to a shop and the notice reads "we accept BTC" and you pay with BTC, then you have used it as a currency, and there are many shops like that all over the world, both physical and online shops. But the best part about BTC is that it can be used by the owner how they want to, it has a reducing supply, so if you think the future price will be higher, you can buy BTC and hold it. If you want a permissionless and censorship resistant currency to spend, you can use BTC, if you love risk and like to make daily profit, you can use BTC for daily trading, you should use it how you want to.

If Bitcoin does not see another all-time high throughout its lifecycle. I don't think that it is a threat to the existence of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
From $1 to $69k is a very high range for trading in Bitcoin. If Bitcoin does not see a new all-time high, that means the price will now be fluctuating between let's say ten thousand dollars to sixty thousand dollars and that is a very large margin for someone to make profit. It is a very long margin for someone to hold for a very long time and take profit. The only problem is those people that bought at a very high price might not be lucky to have the price again to sell or make again.

But that is just your thinking or option, but on a real life scenario Bitcoin will make a new all-time high. If bitcoin will fail, not this time ecomies are crashing.

It's just matter of time until next bullish cycle but what people keep saying above are also true, bitcoin now is an investing tool much more like gold.
many are expecting it to always multiple its value every runs, which is fine considering they are looking it for the perspective of an investor who always try to seek growing their capitalization.
however though, current value of bitcoin is already high enough if compared with just few years ago, i wouldn't ask for more but certainly if bitcoin could ever recover back to its all time high and even go beyond there's more certainly no harm in that. but the chance of bitcoin repeating the same feat and go beyond are just as high as it is not hitting its all time high ever again. but this only my 2 cents honestly.

Year after year , bitcoin investors is gaining , and of course the most time for this is when there are halving and people see this as opportunity to invest and gain money.
the problem here is that there are also some bad words coming that make other people hesitant to invest.
but this does not send us belief that bitcoin will never gain ATH .
and of course for how many years we have seen this coming and happening , maybe newbie like you does not manage to experience but we? as stayed years here? how many times that we see ATH happening .

Do you want me to only name one reason why Bitcoin will soar high in price eventually? It's very easy, the answer is demand. How can you stop Bitcoin being demanded more and more since we all know that it won't stop spreading around and there are too many people in the world who are yet to make their first Bitcoin purchase, that's one point.

You can simply not stop Bitcoin from becoming more and more popular, and since we know that its supply cannot be changed and is limited, the rule of supply and demand is why Bitcoin will surely be higher in value in the future, though we can't be sure when it will cross it's previous ATH.

if bitcoin can't reach ATH again, then people will just take advantage of the volatility that occurs at the price that is being reached at that price. the potential for bitcoin will always be there because the price goes up and down. In addition, the potential for bitcoin to reach new ATH is still very large. price developments from year to year also prove that bitcoin price developments continue to occur. although there have been some significant declines due to FUD, the potential for ATH for bitcoin is still very large.

From the way bitcoin was designed, it has a limit of 21million,which makes it a unique assets. There must be a halving and after bitcoin halving comes ATH the next year due to the quantity of bitcoin to be mined has reduced. Demand and supply is also an important factor that always trigger bitcoin price. Bitcoin has never failed,instead it has continue to increase in value and in adoption. All these will make bitcoin cycle repeat itself base on history. This is why we are to experience more ATH in future on bitcoin price. Remember it is resistance to inflation, unlike fiat and people have begin to understand this fact.

Many people are used to bitcoin going up after a halving and always showing a new ATH. I think that at least once it might not work, because it is very easy to buy cheap bitcoin before the halving, for example now, and sell it after the halving with a good profit. A lot of people know about this pattern now, and everyone wants to make a profit.

I agree but it seems that Bitcoin becomes one of the best assets that we have today, even surpassing Gold in my opinion. So it's really hard to see people not concern about the price. Although most of us can still used it P2P even with a 3rd party involved.

As to the narrative of the OP, I don't think that we won't see any ATH again. When we see that there is a demand, then obviously the price go South. That's the basic of all assets, scarcity is one of the most contributing factor just like Gold or it's digital counterpart, which is Bitcoin.

Many people know about this pattern, but not all, and compared to the world population, the percentage of participants in the cryptocurrency market is negligible number. So I think this pattern will work fine a few more times before there is a disturbance. I also believe that sooner or later, the market is not cyclical, history does not repeat itself and will make new history, but maybe it is not happening anytime soon. I still think history will repeat itself this time.

I mean, yes Bitcoin might not reach All time high we can easily argue about that, even though a lot of investors, traders, etc. are saying that it will reach All time high or even surpass it. That might not happen for sure because we can't really predict what is going to happen in the market in the future.

As far as history we have a lot of signals or green flags that it is going to happen, some might not believe it but it's still enough basis for us to buy and invest in Bitcoin.

The increasing adaptation of Bitcoin is for sure going to skyrocket the Bitcoin market price, A lot of countries are starting to adopt Bitcoin, and a lot of platforms adopt crypto and it's already a lot easier to buy this time compared to the past years. You can also add the Bitcoin halving.

The words "what if" are something I don't like. People usually come out with such assumptions and worries about the future, I feel it from OP.
But here are the things
 - Bitcoin will never reach another ATH if people never hold their coins but rather be an active trader buying today and selling tomorrow.
 - a decrease in market demand causing its price to drop because people are buying more on altcoins when halving is coming.

But can't just sweep away the chance that it surpasses the previous ATH as it actually happens last 2021 while breaking the $20k ATH, and so most of us are expecting to break again 2 years from now.

The question is, will there be an issue if Bitcoin doesn't cross its previous all-time high? And the answer is no, there will be no issues at all. It might only be an issue for those investors who bought Bitcoin when it was at its peak because a lot of people sold their Bitcoins in that position and those who were buying are probably still waiting for the price to reach there again.

Apart from that, there will be no issues at all. It wouldn't have a change in its utility, nor the traders will have an issue since it will still be volatile enough for traders to gain profits even if it doesn't go too high.

Its not just inflation is a thing, some currencies are going to zero worth which causes entire nations to lose their cash in hand.  Its not a one off event, its continual failure and corruption of currency by politics and military dictators etc.   people at present cannot trust any type of currency in the world as all of it is centralized towards a political master at best and at worst egotistical fiscal diversion and loss.
   BTC very likely is of increasing worth in a world where normal exchange of currency involves losing some of it almost always, I'd rather have the chance of gaining something; most at present choose investment in shares or similar to make gains but BTC is valid also so most of the world has yet to hold a small amount.

I agree there is no rule that say BTC will reach another ATH but there is also no rule that BTC will not reach another ATH.  So it evens out the argument. ;D  One thing I am sure that BTC often shames both technical and fundamental analysts.  It's price movement is also unpredictable and often times moves in a crazy pattern so no one can say whether it will rally to new ATH or not. But if we look at history, it shows that in every cycle there is a recorded new all-time high I know we cannot hold unto that but we all know more often than not, history repeats itself.

Aside from the given reason on @OP, Bitcoin will record another ATH because of hype and positive market sentiment.  It is also possible certain groups will align with the hype and pump the price of Bitcoin with aim of selling when Bitcoin is at its peak.

though we don't know the future of BTC, but as we are looking at the current market, the hope of further increasing its value is still there. the adoption is growing, more companies are buying their stash. worry if there is no one talking about this market anymore.
achieving a new ATH or not, what we can do is ask ourselves on what we are doing to prepare for this market. what will happen if the price will further increase later on? do you want to regret the good times that you should have been collecting some satoshis?

We would be sad? I mean its quite funny to talk about something that we all know won't happen, we all know that it is going to be possible see above ATH and that is why there is really no problem of achieving something like that. So there are too many people who keep on considering that its going to change and suddenly we won't see it? We have seen it for so long so far and I do not think that it will not change anytime soon, if we did it before then we are going to do it again as well. I just don't know the time, like yeah surely its not going to be very soon like this month, but it will "eventually" happen. When we know this, that means we do not have to worry about the future and not fear something like this, just realize that its going to be fine.

Ideally, we all know that this is impossible, and bitcoin will surpass its current ATH. It can be witnessed in previous events and incidents following each cycle of halving. This time it will happen again; this is not a theoretical statement, but a certainty.


Adoption is expanding every day, and as the need for more purchases increases, we might face some scarcity in its supply (everyone wants to hold and not sell). When demand exceeds available supply, the price will inevitably rise.

I beg to disagree, nothing is certain in this world but changes and death.  So even if the cycle proves that Bitcoin is capable of breaking it ATH, it is not certain until it happen.  So I can say, the possibility of not breaking ATH is always there but we are incline to think that it will surely break ATH because it is what we are hoping for.


True that, in general it is a matter of supply and demand but in more close observation, it isn't just the supply and demand but the many factors that is happening in the world.  Price of Bitcoin is affected by regulation, global economic state, and many more.  Institutional acceptance will be the major factor in the next ATH breaking of BTC, that is what I am thinking.

Actually, sky is the limit. One reason is limited supply; if demand would be continuously increasing and given that there is a limited supply of Bitcoin to be mined, then its market value could continue increasing in the future especially if more people will be fond of using this technology as a mode of payment due to its advantages ovet fiat. However, there is indeed a tendency that its price will not again reach the ATH; if this industry will be abandoned by people or governments of many countries for any possible reason such as prohibition due to not being taxed and such. Since demand is affected by many factors we cannot control what will happen 'coz it is a double edged sword. If we can't control its price going up, then same thing as it falls, bottomline is, demand will be the determinant of its value whether it is going up or down.

The most probable reason why Bitcoin's new all-time high seems possible is its adoption. We all know that Bitcoin isn't yet known by everyone in the world, and not everyone has invested in it for now, but as adoption increases, there will be more investors probably, and since its supply is limited, the price will increase when there is more demand.

So according to that rule, Bitcoin will probably reach its previous all-time high and go beyond if it manages to gain more popularity and adoption over time. With greater demand and money flowing into Bitcoin, nothing can stop it from achieving that target.

The role and support of the government are also important because without clear regulations there will be no adoption.
To reach the last high point I think it's still very possible even though some adoptions are not running properly.
Large adoption may be quite difficult to do because of unclear regulations.

Bitcoin has been popular since it became a digital currency that gave a big breakthrough in the world economic market.
Many already know about Bitcoin. But some of those who just found out about Bitcoin are reluctant to invest for fear of the risk of loss.
Even though Bitcoin is the main asset that will provide greater returns by holding it for the long term.

The current Bitcoin target is to reach a new ATH and this will be achieved perhaps when the next Halving will occur with a bullish push that will be stronger.

I also disagree, although I also expect bitcoin to hit a new ATH, but that's just our hope, we don't have any proof, so we can't say for sure. The chance of bitcoin not hitting ATH is very low, but that doesn't mean it's not likely. The risk of investing in bitcoin is still there, and the future of bitcoin is still uncertain, so we still need a backup plan, don't put all our trust and all our money in bitcoin.



I am quite confident that the demand for bitcoin will increase over time as fiat and banks show more and more weaknesses and people are slowly realizing things. But the bitcoin price is governed by many factors, and regulation is one of the factors that worries me the most.

Sorry for the late reply, but I'm short on time at the moment. Yes I agree with you. Certainly, capping the amount of bitcoins is not the main reason why we will eventually see a new ATH. As you write, supply and demand are the main reasons for a new ATH. But by limiting the amount of bitcoins, this could also lead to the supply of bitcoins becoming very low in the future. Surely the demand still needs to be high to hit a new ATH, but maybe the limited quantity will help with that. Either way, I see the limit as a good thing and it's an advantage that hardly any other investment or currency can offer.  :)

I think capping the max bitcoin is a very good reason why bitcoin could go higher, but that doesn't mean that anything with a cap goes up neither, so I agree. I mean I can create a token in a minute with just 10 token max supply, would that suddenly mean that 1 token would worth millions? Of course not, we all know that won't happen and that's a terrible decision.

This is why I believe that we should not really be doing something like this at the moment, what I believe however is that if we could get bitcoin higher, then the cap has "something" to do with it. Obviously when you look at ETH and how it is unlimited, that still goes up and we are doing fine about that, which means that it's not the only reason and would never be considered that way at all.

Looking at the market, with the increase in the price of bitcoin, the price of ethereum is increasing, so we have to wait patiently for BTC to see a new ATH again. Not only bitcoin and ethereum but also altcoins like Ada, BNB, Solana, Dodge, XRP have increased in price the entire cryptocurrency market cap is now around $1.85 trillion. Apart from the first cryptocurrency bitcoin the remaining currencies are called altcoins. The supply and demand of bitcoin remains the same depending on the price of this currency the value of other currencies increases.

No new ATH for Bitcoin means no more ATL for fiat money. That's simply not possible, new Bitcoin ATHs are inevitable. Just give it time.

We know that people do really have that wildest hopes and assumptions and making out some scenarios or conditions about those what if's without even trying out to think on what are the things which are inevitable.

Exactly!

We didnt even expect nor anticipate that we would really go this far when it comes to its value.No one really had expected it and this is why we could really say that
price could really be having no limit as long the demand would really be keeping on increasing.Just as said when it comes to supply then its fixed and limited and basing up on the percentage
in overall population on how much or many people had been known about its existence then it would really be just a pecked of dust which we know that
there's still lots of rooms to grow.

Occasionally bitcoin will break the cycle, people will always wait for ATH because speculation will continue as long as bitcoin is volatile. Fortunately ATH isnt always close to halving events which indirectly gives many possibility when ATH occurs.

This is the true approach. Considering that inflation keeps happening, high or low, there is no negative, it is always positive, even if it goes back to old days and we have like %2 inflation, that still means that there is inflation and that still means value of fiat will drop, and in that case we are going to end up with a lot better from the people and the price of bitcoin will go up. That is why I believe that ATH for bitcoin is inevitable as well and it will happen. Can't say if it will be next month or a year or a few years, but it will happen.

This is why it is important to keep investing into bitcoin. If you do that, when the time comes the fiat will lose its value again and a lot, there will be a crisis, like it always happens, and bitcoin price will be huge after that.

Yes, ETH is an example of this as it has an infinite supply. As I also said, supply is not the deciding factor, but demand determines the value of bitcoin, and we are the creators of that demand. But limited supply combined with high demand will help bitcoin reach its maximum value, and that is also why ETH has a very high value, but it has never surpassed bitcoin.
The combination of these 2 can answer OP's question is bitcoin will still have a new ATH because the demand for bitcoin is still increasing day by day while the supply is limited.

Market doesn't follow any rules but the Bitcoin market has had a pattern it has been following for more than a decade and that pattern has been the reason behind the adoption and development on the entire cryptocurrency space. There's no reason for Bitcoin to stop following that pattern now and that's why bitcoin getting new all time high is likely to happen than not to happen.

Bitcoin is halving coming next year and what that does is to reduce the inflow of Bitcoin coming into existence, and that means there'll be less Bitcoin available for purchase on exchanges and we already know whales in form of individuals and companies has be accumulating Bitcoin so there won't be enough to buy and that'll drive up the price to a new all time high.

Everything is still in the context of How and Maybe, who can predict with certainty the direction of Bitcoin in the future. Bitcoin movements are not regulated by any party, everything depends on demand and supply in the market. So far I have never seen Bitcoin fail, after experiencing a small or large correction, Bitcoin will always experience strengthening. All of this depends on how you judge your performance and your trust in Bitcoin. It will take time to reach ATH as expected, only time will tell.

Yes, Bitcoin may be a good investment strategy, I think it's good if it's done right judging by the market capitalization data and the limited number of Bitcoins, but it's better not to push yourself too hard in investing in a hurry. I mean competition around future price performance The future of Bitcoin is not easy to predict correctly because there are many different factors that can affect the market but at least it can help one not to get caught up in overly confident or certain issues or statements about Bitcoin price movement in the future.

if bitcoin wont find way to enter another ATH? then maybe this is what we cannot call crypto anymore . while the chance is very tin to happen because for how many times that we have seen this happening ath every 4 years cycle.

imagine this great crypto will be permanently in this level? or the highest level attained is 68k?
investors will lose its faith and surely will withdraw their support .

I may use mine for online transaction or convert into real life business then?

It happens because we assume that every 4-year cycle the market turns bullish. Perhaps, it was a brainwash, and people got really disappointed if not coming so they are worried and possibly they will leave crypto if it never happens. But we have faith and we believe that even if Bitcoin will make another ATH, the price will still keep on growing. And besides, with the small pump and corrections, we still make a profit from it. In fact, if we buy Bitcoin at $25k and then the price rise and reaches to at least $40k, it was already a huge profit.

It's the same as being called a fluctuation that can go up and down at any time making prices change at any time, bitcoin always has a long history and I always see records of how bitcoin always reaches a peak when a cycle has occurred, why bitcoin can reach ATH because of limited supply and also market supply and demand is always increasing so we believe it will happen again every 4 years where after the usual halving bitcoin reaches ATH again.

So I don't think bitcoin is not ATH anymore while the supply is still limited and the human population now almost likes to invest in bitcoin it will be even more rare and make the price of bitcoin go up again.

What if no one has promised that Bitcoin gonna update ATH every few years or every cycle? Just accept that as a fact, no one promised that cryptocurrency prices will always grow. If BTC wont update ATH, then it means that is has run out of power, trust and people will create (they always do) other asset that will become demanded and it will be a locomotion of a industry.

I think not every single BTC holder has bought it at 69k. So even if ATH is not updated, but BTC price still get close to +65k, a lot of people will be more than happy about it. Live with an idea that BTC wasnt created as a speculative asset. Dont rely on growth, use technology and opportunities instead :P

When something occurs repeatedly at the same intervals, it somehow becomes the norm. This time around, the ATH of the price of Bitcoin will not be an exception. Every four years, a new ATH will continue to occur. Possibly in 2024 or 2025.

According to what I have seen so far, the price of bitcoin has historically increased every four years (around and after the halving season), with new records being set.

However, if the previous ATH was $69k, the subsequent ATH for bitcoin will be above it, maybe close to $80k +

What we are looking forward to is the next 4-year cycle where the Halving will happen and the possibility of ATH will be reached.
It will come soon, we should all get ready too. Bitcoin's current price is still very affordable compared to the last ATH that Bitcoin reached.
Especially if the new ATH is reached which is predicted to reach $100k in this -4 halving cycle.

Bitcoin supply is limited to only 21 million and will be mined out in the next few years.
In addition, Bitcoin left by its owner will also not move, so automatically the supply of Bitcoin will decrease and only a few are in circulation.
The rarer it is, the more expensive it will be. The future of Bitcoin is still quite long and is currently still a start.

Most other markets are not governed by immutable economic rules like Bitcoin. Bitcoin has a fixed supply, guaranteeing no further issuance in the future (unlike stocks and fiat). Bitcoin is decentralized and is not reliant on a board, revenue, cash flow etc. to remain afloat (unlike stocks). Bitcoin has modern-day use-case other than its great economics that are aside from its use-case (unlike gold).

The Bitcoin market follows its own created rules over the long term. No other market is like it. There is no rule or law saying that it won't reach another ATH either.


This is only possible if mining becomes viable at these prices post-halving, which would be caused by a big enough innovation in the mining hardware and/or electricity sector (both unlikely). If mining is not profitable, Bitcoin can not continue to validate transactions. Mining can only be profitable at a certain price.



You forgot the halving and its effect on the market, as well as everything already mentioned in this post.

That is very true, anyone who has lived through the last bear runs knows that if you do DCA that means you are going to do better, so even some people who bought at 69k price could get into so much profit when it is 50k+, because they might have bought at lower prices as well to drop their average and that might allow them to make some good profit.

Not a lot of people bought it at the top anyway so this means it only leaves people who bought at the very top and then never bought again and still holding after all this time. That is a very small number of people, I do not think that many of that exists, most people either bought lower, or already sold for a loss, and when the price reaches a new high, most people will be in very high profits without a doubt.

I remain optimistic that bitcoin can be achieved for the next ATH, I have also been prepared for that, but when the price is still low, we still continue to take advantage of the accumulation of bitcoins by means of the DCA method, as much as possible we will accumulate bitcoins in our portfolio, especially since there has been a lot of speculation about the next bitcoin ATH can be up to $100K.
I believe it's because from the previous ATH to the new ATH it can be 2-3x, so it's likely to be more than $100K.

Let's wait.

That's what's unique about bitcoin, I believe that some people have left bitcoin because that person died or lost their private key, so many of them can't touch anything, so it's going to be increasingly rare in circulation and of course, the price must be expensive, with more than a decade of bitcoin present, the longer the time, the farther the price comparison will be in each 4-year cycle.

The future is actually very easy to predict, from how Bitcoin was created, the supply will always be limited and that means the price is going to always increase in price. We're just impatient and that's why we're doubting the future of Bitcoin. Bitcoin price will always increase after every four years so we shouldn't be in a hurry to expect the price to increase during the bear market.

In 2025, I don't think there'll be anything that'll stop the price from reaching a new all time high, I have no doubt of some of the government in different countries secretly buying Bitcoin. El Salvador are doing it publicly because they have accepted the currency but I have a feeling countries like China (Hong Kong) is doing it secretly.

it never crossed many people's minds that bitcoin touched $ 50k but in fact bitcoin has reached that price, now people are asking whether bitcoin will touch $ 100k, and although no one can confirm it is 100% but bitcoin will definitely touch value $100k/BTC.


fiat can be printed according to political interests in a country and if more and more countries make Bitcoin a legal tender then the surge in Bitcoin prices will be unstoppable.

OP's suspicion is probable because no asset can go up in price forever, there will come a time when it will saturate. But that won't happen anytime soon because bitcoin is still very new, and many people still don't know about it. With that, we can see that the demand for it is growing every day, we have no concrete proof for the OP, but based on what is going on, we can be pretty sure of the increased price of bitcoin.

But there's one more thing that scares me, people already know too much about ATH after the halving, and I think that will change soon because the game can't be easy forever. Market makers will shuffle the market and make the game harder and harder.

I think bitcoin is really a new thing, like the internet or the mobile phone used to be. There will come a time and people will understand the usefulness of bitcoin. I also think that 69k for bitcoin in the last cycle is not the limit. I'm comparing the price of bitcoin to the price of amazon or apple stocks. In the beginning they too were cheap, but only after many years has their value increased.

Comparing bitcoin to shares of Amazon and Apple is a pretty modest comparison, I think bitcoin's potential is much greater than those stocks. I don't want to flatter or exaggerate bitcoin, but honestly, bitcoin is possibly the most perfect product I've ever known. It can be both an asset and a means of payment, and especially it can turn us into our own bank that, so far, no technology or asset has been able to do that get this. I think, if it can be accepted and used worldwide, then we don't need to use fiat, gold, or other payment methods because bitcoin includes all of that.

The potential of bitcoin is huge, its value will not stop at $69k or $100k. I believe its value will be higher than we imagine, just like how many people don't think within 14 years, bitcoin can grow from $1 to $69k.

Let's assume that scenario will happen but that would mean Bitcoin failed as a sytem and was everyone will call it a crypto bubble. With certain that at some point , Bitcoin should stable at some price area but I still think we are some years far away until Bitcoin will do that so for now , let's hope we can break again 30k before summer hits and we can officially say we are in a pre-bull run.

With the growing number of new users, of course bitcoin will continue to set new price records, if bitcoin can't touch ATH again I'm sure the volume of transactions will continue to increase, and in my opinion the thing that makes bitcoin always interesting is that it deserves to be used as daily trading, so it doesn't take much time it takes a long time to get a profit because with price fluctuations that can reach 5% or more, it can make us get a lot of profit.

I wasn't talking about the potential or the size of the profits. I was comparing the new for that time phenomenon of dotcoms. Many stocks disappeared as shitcoins. But amazon probably became the most successful, like bitcoin in cryptocurrency. So when the bubble burst, amazon continued on its way and became a successful company. The same can be said for bitcoin and shitcoins.

Before answering your question I wanna also remind you that why the price of a thing goes up, The reason is when the supply of a good is less than the demand. And we all know that the total supply of  bitcoin is only a 21million which is very low at against the total population of the world. And if we look back days then we will see that the growing of using cryptocurrencies is nice so there is no confusion that the upcoming days the using of cryptocurrency with decrease so if the using of cryptocurrency using the rate increasing day by day the there will be must bitcoin price is also gonna increase with the flow. So far from an all-time high, Bitcoin will surely reach at that point we can't even imagine now

While I agree with some of your points, but I disagree with the ease of predicting the future. There is no special way to convince yourself that the price of bitcoin will always go up every 4 years like you said other than someone's optimism about bitcoin. People wish they could figure out how the process worked, not how it would turn out in the future so people could analyze.

Don't be offended, what you believe about the future may not be what you believe especially because bitcoin wasn't created to be more expensive each halving period. People expect the same scenario to repeat itself, but no one can guarantee the same thing will happen again.

Perhaps, it was possible but I haven't think it right now. Because reaching $100k is not that easy, not that we think when people and these investors never know how to hold but just sell their Bitcoins when there are short pumps. We'd see the price before keep on growing, we make it as a basis for the future, we are able to reach $20k, another $60k for new ATH, and we are expecting a higher price in this bull season. That is how we viewed the journey of Bitcoin and we gain some faith but couldn't assure that it all be happening this time as it remains unpredictable.

Sometimes I kept wondering why people over bothered them selves with bitcoin prices, there are still time for us and bitcoin is here to stay and doesn't have where to go we'll leave it and go one day so people are still yet to know about bitcoin.

With time the whole world will get to know about bitcoin then we may know we had a better chance to buy at cheap price but instead we always get worried of the price or even focusing on seeing new All-Time-High which I think isn't pretty cool with us.

Even if we think differently, Bitcoin will be at the top of the global economy in the coming days. Usually many people are busy buying gold and land to protect their wealth from inflation but Bitcoin has gained huge popularity among everyone to make the situation more transparent and faster. People can easily control these digital assets. Day by day people's demand is increasing and they are also getting huge incentive to collect Bitcoin so there is no doubt that Bitcoin will be bullish again in the coming days. Bitcoin is needed not only for temporary profit but also to protect assets from this inflation.

Of course, this will never happen as we can see how much the cryptocurrency market has changed compared to the past. If Bitcoin does not ATH again then the entire cryptocurrency will be destroyed. and you can wait and see what the future holds for Bitcoin. It won't take much time for the market to ATH where it is currently. We may soon see the Bitcoin market grow again.

of course, it's not an easy thing for bitcoin to reach $ 100k (besides needing good news, it also requires big adoption) but back to how people thought about the value of bitcoin in the past, even in 2016 many people never thought the price of bitcoin would touch $10k (that's why many people are trivial with the bitcoins they get either from the faucet - airdrop - mining).
now we all have to be able to learn from experience and everyone must have an investment in bitcoin regardless of whether the price of bitcoin will touch $100k or not because bitcoin is an investment asset that is very strong and resistant to anything even if it is very volatile (unstable like the price of gold).

While there are no assurances , Bitcoin's thriving institutional adoption, circumscribed supply, and decentralized nature makes it an enticing substitute to local currencies, which could contribute to another all-time high in the future.

There are no real assumptions for something like this because indeed in this case I think it's one of the risks and the worst possibility that will happen but the problem is with the current conditions I think ATH will still happen sooner or later something like this is still possible to happen.
What you said about there are still many people who still don't buy and even know BTC is true but on the other hand it doesn't matter, adoption is still continuing and we have to be aware of the current conditions that more and more people know BTC believe it or not a chart like this will continue to rise.
Even though all possibilities are still going to happen considering the Volatility but for ATH I'm still sure of that.

The crypto industry will continue to grow regardless of whether bitcoin can mint new ATH or not. Actually bitcoin ATH is not the determining factor that will keep the crypto industry going, but bitcoin ATH can have an impact on the enthusiasm and confidence of many people to hope for a better future.

Fundamentally the future of bitcoin is also undefined because of ATH, I tend to think that growing adoption and real use cases will keep bitcoin around and used rather than just hoping for ATH. ATH is desirable because bitcoin is considered an investment and trading asset, while some consider it a store of value. But if you're using bitcoin as a means of payment, then I think you're very likely not to care too much about ATH.

We know that Bitcoin did really be able to prove out on whats its worth and its been up and able to be on the top for a decade+ which does signifies that demand and recognition is really there. We cant really be able to
deny that people would really be always having that huge support to it and it would really be always be on where it is really just that normal that it would really be having that kind of approach and beliefs
and thats why it would really be having that continous kind of support no matter what. Speaking about new ATH or wouldnt be able to touch up its ATH ever then it should be fine though but in the sense that you are
an investor who do really love on investing and making profits then you might be considering some other options because if you cant be able to utilize and possibly be making some huge profits on
bitcoin investment then you would definitely be looking on altcoins which there's no other way we could really be able to look out.

I agree with you, because there is a hope that the price of Bitcoin will break record this year 2023 to hit $70,000 or $80,000 for those that invested some years ago to embrace the opportunity to make a huge amount of profits from their long term holding. Many people thought something like this last year that gave many Long term investors and short term investors to used all their strength and energy to get money to purchase potential coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum in the lower price and hold before they really them for sale last month when the price increased higher in the market to make a good income at the moment.

I agree with the thought that the bitcoin price will continue to rise and that creating an ATH shouldn't be too difficult for bitcoin. It's only a matter of time for that to happen. But I disagree that the bitcoin price will break records and hit new ATHs this year. I would like to reiterate that bitcoin only hit a new ATH after the halving, and we are far from the halving, so expecting a new ATH this year is a bit unrealistic.

Might we see a huge pump this year but I would say that I don't reach for another ATH this year. As I recall on the previous bull run where the price of Bitcoin reach its new ATH it was 4 years after the last 2017 ATH. And trying to count it, it was predicted to have a rally 2 years from now (2025). If we can see the price of Bitcoin will reach $70k, therefore, I would say that the market had really changing fast.
I hope I was wrong but this is what I see in the market now and this is based on the previous market record.

What do you mean "What if BTC won't see ATH again? " are you giving  us a hint that bitcoin could be closing shop ??? Because its the only way this could happen...and unfortunately this being a digital age bitcoin is here to stay!!!

You know the thing about most of us crypto enthusiasts, we want these crypto assets to remain bullish for the rest of their life time and when ever these coins see red we want a response to happen by tomorrow, but that's not how markets work.

If we look at one of the oldest assets out there "Gold", you will learn that its ATH was set several years ago and it took a long time before the ATH was breached again and this same assumption can be applied to BTC...it might not happen today or tomorrow but the fact remains that this ATH will be broken one day!
 

We can talk about New ATH for Bitcoin after the Bitcoin halving, for now it is very likely that Bitcoin will be really volatile,
I don't know whether Bitcoin can breakout from $30k again or not, because $30k is the key for Bitcoin to continue its bullish trend.

I agree to a certain degree with this statement, based on the Bitcoin's havling that occurs every 4 years, but the exception to this rule is if there is a dramatic decrease in adoption. Ultimately, price only increases because the adoption increases (or at least the demand is maintained after the halvings). So it is possible that price won't increase if the adoption doesn't continue to increase, not that I believe this will happen.


I'm not sure there's many governments that can get away with "secretly" buying Bitcoin, as generally they have to be relatively transparent their reserves. But I do think there will be more countries in the near future adopting a Bitcoin strategy like El Salvador. Already since El Salvador the Central African Republic has also made Bitcoin legal tender, and it's likely that the success from these experiments will encourage other African or Latin American companies to do the same. As otherwise, for countries with stable currencies like China, I don't see the incentive to adopt what is generally considered risky strategies.

If you and I were to be completely honest with the crypto market, we would understand that it has a mechanism whereby a new ATH is set aside every four years regardless of what, despite the fact that there is no rule stating that bitcoin should hit another all-time high.

The fact that bitcoin establishes a new ATH every four years makes it appear difficult for someone who has been involved in the cryptocurrency industry for a long time to assume or agree that there won't be another ATH of bitcoin other than the $69k price that occurred last two years ago. The reason now is that as the awareness of Bitcoin is spreading, that's now how the adoption of bitcoin will be also and this will trigger its future price to another ATH every time

The basic question should be when will Bitcoin find another ATH, not if it will find it. Of course, it's a given that Bitcoin will continue to find fresh ATH within every of its circle.

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Let's be realistic here – how many people (investors) would be interested in Bitcoin if it weren't for the fact it serves as both investment and asset instrument. I'm not sure the P2P factor would've got it to this point in price than the "quadruple" effect is doing.

when considering global market history how confident that you are? answer will give to answer for your argument

I also believe that Bitcoin price will continue to increase and it should create another ATH in the next bullrun season. But surely it won't happen this year because we are still in the bearish season. The next bullrun season is predicted to happen after the upcoming bullrun season, so it probably happens in 2024-2025. Of course, it is impossible if we want to see Bitcoin hit a new ATH this year. The current price is still far from the ATH, it is not the right time to expect another ATH.  ;)

Anyway, the price move gradually nearing the ATH, so it won't create a new ATH suddenly. People who expect the ATH to happen this year, probably don't know about Bitcoin price history. They never understand about bearish-bullish season, too.

To me, the volatility of bitcoin is unpredictable, there is no key or resistance level to confirm it will continue to rise or fall, any scenario is possible. The $30,000 goal, we hit it in April, so it's only a matter of time before it comes back.

Not only are newbies making those predictions, but a lot of long-time investors, even they have experienced 2 previous bear seasons. But they still confidently predict that there will be ATH this year. I don't know why they have that mindset, but it's just an expectation anyway, and there's nothing wrong with it. Time will answer all.

And why do you think it's even really necessary to see another all-time high? ATH or no ATH, there are people who will still adopt Bitcoin because it provides a digital means of handling our financial records in a decentralized manner and allows users to be in full control over their assets. Perhaps the whole population of this world doesn't need to own Bitcoin for its purpose to be fulfilled. Even if the total supply of Bitcoin were divided among the world population, no one would own up to 0.5 Bitcoin, at which point the total supply of Bitcoin would not even be enough for the already existing Bitcoiners because there are still thousands of people who don't yet hold even up to 0.1 Bitcoin.

So my point here, @OP, is that Bitcoin has all possible reasons to still see a new all-time high based on the total supply, and also that Bitcoin was not even created for the ATH we keep speculating about; Bitcoin's purpose is for the common man and woman to have full control of their assets in a digital way and to carry out money transactions with anyone around the world.

If bitcoin cannot pass or create new ATH again, of course there will be boredom and panic from investors, people will think that bitcoin has lost interest so that prices cannot pass through ATH, and if that happens of course we have to prepare the best thing to leave bitcoin immediately.

In the market two things will always happen either the price rises or falls due to the law of supply and demand, when it comes to Bitcoin we all are aware from Satoshi's Bitcoin white paper that not more than 21M Bitcoin can ever be created, so I wonder what will stop the price from increasing over time , let's for instance comparing the worlds population which is about 6-7 Billion to 21M number of Bitcoin's total suply and It just happened that only 1 Billion out of 7 Billion population owns Bitcoin across the world in the future, not taking into account the individuals that already owned a thousand (1000+BTC), the demand will everly be there and definitely the price will increase and hence creating new ATH.

That's really a hard sell, people not interested in bitcoin? No way, not to mention that there's more people that are into cryptocurrency than ever before, I don't think it's really impossible that we won't see another ATH, bitcoin has already disproven a lot of it's doubters back when the prices were still in the 4 digit range, I don't think that it's going to be any different. Just let things move the way it intends to move, people will panic today and then regret it tomorrow.

I am not sure if it will see that right now, or not, it may see that level or maybe it will go up but not that much. However, I agree with you on the direction part, I agree that it will go up and I agree that it will do well. Hopefully that will go towards a situation where it will be greater than what it is today.

I feel like finishing this year with 50k is not out of question, maybe we are both wrong and it will not reach those levels but I feel like it will probably reach those levels. This is why it is important to focus on what you can do with it. I believe that if you could invest carefully today, then you should probably be making a good return eventually, and that should give you a better return without a doubt.

What if you stop being pessimistic?
And Bitcoin will definitely hit ATH again but certainly not in the near future. To be honest, that may take a long of time to be achieved due to this current stability will continue during this year. From my perspective, Bitcoin will increase significantly after the next halving specifically by the end of 2024. It would be better if we keep holding and investing due to the recent price is still affordable and suitable until it reaches all time high.
In fact, I realized that Bitcoin is related the global inflation, it means the more the rate of deficit financing increases, the more Bitcoin price rises.

Bitcoin didnt failed on surprising us, it is really just it do really takes time for it to show up some numbers or able to reach out those all new all time highs when it comes into its price. People who do keep on complaining
and saying some stuff about it then it is really just they cant really just wait for the right time and they are really that impatient and this is why they would really be making out some claims that it wont really be
seeing its ATH. We know that there's no way on knowing on what the future looks like but speaking about its potential and seeing its community support, then you could really tell that it does have
that chance on breaking out those resistances that we do have.It isnt really that something that we could assure off but at least we are really that seeing the potential.

This is why it would really be depending on how you would really be handling up yourself not only mentally but also emotionally considering that this market is really that something that cant be known
when it comes into its movements. Wont be seeing new ath? Then if thats your mindset then you would really be hindering yourself on buying because of having those
doubts.

The market is currently volatile according to my personal opinion, this trend will continue. Because the US wants to bring the market under control, two storms can happen in the market. I think the downward trend in prices will continue for a few more days. But I don't think we should give up on Bitcoin immediately because the price of this currency is going down and it will go up again.

Not everyone participates in the market for profit, some still use bitcoin as a currency, a means of payment, and some use it for privacy purposes. So if bitcoin no longer generates new ATH, it will lose some users but not all. But in case it does not generate new ATH but maintains volatility, we still have the possibility to profit from it, many people will also stay in the market.

I also won't give up entirely if bitcoin stabilizes because it is still useful as a currency, especially since bitcoin still helps me to be my own bank, my assets are not controlled by the government and banks.

For us of course this is not a problem, we can still get profit even though bitcoin will not touch ATH again, price fluctuations that can reach more than 1% per day make a good opportunity to get profit, if we trade with a value of $ 100k and profit 1% then we get $ 1000 per day.

Like what you said also, there will also be no rules that will make Bitcoin follow what you say with prices only rotating in that range. If you think that every bitcoin reaches the latest ATH just because of a 4 year cycle that is wrong, because what makes the price reach ATH is that many people have an interest in being able to see the btc price reach highs again and again, including miners who have spent large sums of money to mine and they need returns so that they remain profitable, also big institutions that invest in bitcoin by owning large amounts they have not only want to own but because they want to make a profit by making the price higher than the purchase price, so the increase in the price of bitcoin is a concern for many parties.

To pass ATH or set a new price record it takes a long time, in 2013 the price reached over $1000 and it took almost 4 years to get past the $1000 price, then the price drops again and it takes a long time to cross the ATH, if no ATH happens again then I'm sure it won't be too impactful for users, they can get profit from daily trading.

I believe in BTC and the more i see post like this i feel even better, because this resits every year .... lol ;D ;D

It seems to me that one day there will be a breakdown in cycles anyway, because it turns out it is very easy to buy bitcoin before the halving and sell afterwards. One day there will be a manipulation which will panic on the market and most people will lose money. Statistically there is no 100% repeat of cycles, especially in such a manipulative market as cryptocurrencies.

That is such a great way of approaching bitcoin, and funny enough that is the reason why it will see ATH as well. I do not care about what the price is because I will keep using it and that's the thing that matters the most for me. People who are not really considering that are making a mistake. I personally hope that the best thing to do right now is to make sure that we invest accordingly and that is the most important thing.

I know not many people will be able to actually do something that will matter, but as long as it does then I will be fine with it. I hope that it gets at a better point and we will not see it do too badly, but that doesn't mean that we will not be able to actually lose money, we just don't care about the price when we are using it.

You know, sometimes people are just doing the wrong thing with their Bitcoin investment or have the wrong perspective on investing in Bitcoin (why?). Because, even before I started my journey, I had been hearing, "Only invest what you can afford to lose." Which means I should invest so I will not really suffer some phycological challenges should the investment go wrong. I believe no one knows what will happen in the future, which is why investment specialist always advise that individuals should only invest what they can afford to lose. So, the problem some people have is that they don't read. Even if they don't read, they are not ready to learn something about what they are putting their money into; all they are concerned with is making profit. Definitely, you should think about making a profit, but not to the extent that you feel less concerned about the risks attached to your investment.

Like you said, the best thing is to invest according so that no one will get blamed at the end of the day, God forbid, but even if Bitcoin doesn't see another all-time high again, some people will not be shaken. That's because they have made profit from Bitcoin in the past and also because they understand the purpose of Bitcoin.

Even if there is no ATH but as long as the price can be able to recover to our last ATH or at least close to it, many of us will be happy and contented already because that still gives us a chance to earn a nice profit. ATH is not important but price volatility is, as this was the reason on why we can buy low and sell high.

Many are wishing for it to be gone. I think those who said this are the people who only use their BTC as a currency. They are just selfish but they can still use their BTC as a currency even if there are volatility. No one is forced to use or own a BTC because BTC will not replace the traditional fiat system that we have so don't worry about its supply.

I think the fall from $69K down to $16K lost a lot of people a lot of money.  It seems that we're now on the way back up and I personally believe that we'll see a new ATH sometime in the next two years.  As 5thangel says, this seems to be a pattern that repeats, although I would say every 4 years.  Bitcoin does need a "wall of worry" to climb if the price is going to keep rising, and it seems like that worry is coming and has already started taking a toll on other assets internationally.  The big question that remains is if Bitcoin is going to rally through a recession, or experience it's first break from the 4-year price cycle.

We cannot control the market and we also didn't know what will be the future of bitcoin that's the reason why there are a lot of people who didn't buy bitcoin, the risk of the possible loss is very big and taking big risk is only for the brave investors who can afford to loss. Bitcoin will surely hit another all time high but we didn't know when and when we already found out the exact date of the bull market we will become late, so buy bitcoin today to avoid regrets just like what already happen before.

I find it kind of hard to believe that Bitcoins will ever be rid of the potential to reach an ATH again. there are just too many big names and group of people involved in it already that even imagining it end is quite impossible now. And keep in mind the total supply plus the big number of people that are yet to discover or to jump into this industry. There's just no other way but up in the long run. I mean, even governments and banks can't fully suppress Bitcoin, just imagine how stronger it would become in the years to come as mass adoption rate increases. A few years from now, the ATH that we witnessed liked the other ones in the past would only seem too low compared to what's yet to come.

It means that you are one of those people who easily believe what you have read and seen in life, for example like this where you immediately believe when you see a post like this about Bitcoin. In general, it's not wrong, but what I'm really afraid of is that one day it will be easier for you to believe when you see bad news addressed to Bitcoin and it's really sad if you can really believe in it.

There is no complete repetition of the cycle or one that is almost similar to the previous one, but for the four-year cycle it is still very possible to occur even though it will never be the same as the previous cycle. And panic only arises for some people who are more easily frightened when they see something they don't want happening in the market so that triggers some people to release their cryptocurrency into the market quickly.

I think the important part is to be stable, if the price of bitcoin became a bit more stable the new would be able to use it in a lot more places. I bet that 90%+ of the people who would use bitcoin as a payment, do not use it in their business because it is volatile, which means that they can't use it at the time but would use it if it became a bit more stable, for a while at least.

However, that doesn't mean that we will not see ATH for sure, we will still see it and people who think that we won't are wrong, there is nothing wrong with bitcoin bitcoin this price and should be considered a good deal at the time right now, it should be considered a good profitable business to hold for long term because I bet that we are going to see it grow to a new level.

The interesting thing about Bitcoin is ATH, people are motivated to buy because ATH's hopes can only be achieved so that they get a big profit, if New Ath can not be achieved anymore, I don't have a problem, people will continue to actively speculate to buy because of ATH's expectations even if it does not happen.

Bitcoin will surely reach new ATH again. Even though there are no specific rules or laws that require bitcoin to reach ATH, however, if we refer to the 4-year cycle that has occurred where each halving occurs, the price of bitcoin has increased very rapidly to print a new ATH. Therefore, I am optimistic that if the next halving cycle bitcoin will reach a new ATH again.

The thing that always makes bitcoin interesting is setting a new price record or ATH, if there is no ATH for a long time, for example 4 years, of course it will make users worried and bored so they will think about selling or cutting losses, because if there is no ATH for a long time then it will be easy for haters to spread FUDs.

The price of bitcoin follows supply and demand so there are no rules that govern the price of bitcoin, but every 4 years there is a cycle that is expected to return to the highest price and there is even hope for a new ATH, I am also optimistic that a new ATH will also be reached in the near future, the market has given a marked signal of a significant increase in the halving period.

I think that basically free market demand drives the price of bitcoin, the economic consequences for the currency will create an impetus that the more important and popular bitcoin is, the more people will buy bitcoin. At the same time, bitcoin's deflation creates an increase in price over time. Therefore, I think it is certain that in the future bitcoin will continue to have new ATH.

By having a fluctuating nature, of course, the users will definitely continue to speculate, the previous ATH was indeed in a high category and maybe breaking into a new ATH certainly requires a more extra process, and we don't really take this too seriously, because this is still said "Maybe" in the sense that it could happen

This pattern is widely used by people and is proven to be able to get big profits. History records that bitcoin always prints new ATH when halvings occur and this is evident from the journey since the first halving occurred where bitcoin always prints new ATH. Therefore, I am sure that if the next halving is bitcoin will print new ATH again.

I think it may, but not anytime soon if you ask me. I understand that it may "look" easy to you, buy today when it's low, and sell one year after the halving, and keep repeating that to get rich. It's such a simple method and people should do that without a doubt.

However, the reason why it won't change anytime soon is the fact that it is not going to be an easy task, it's going to take some time before people can realize it, sure you know it and yes I am aware of it, I learned this last time it happened, and used it this time and made some profit. But not everyone knows about this so there will be a lot of people who would be fooled by cycles and they will not make a lot of money. Until people all learn about this cycle, it's not going to work at all, it will not change much.

You need to understand mate, what affects the price and when will Bitcoin cross all time high price. Bitcoins price only increase when the demand to accumulate or mine it increases. Bitcoins are limited in number and hence if a slight demand increases, then the price will automatically go up. Bitcoins marketcap is high and hence it’s obvious that the demand will increase as the time pass by. Hence Bitcoins price will always go up like the gold. So don’t lose hope and hold your Bitcoins as long as you can.

past experience from bitcoin is like you said, every 4 years after the halving period occurs, a year later a renewable ATH will be formed. this is a criterion of bitcoin always repeating what has been there and i am very sure it will be repeated again. the likely renewable ATH will probably be over $100K as it will usually be several times the previous ATH, so it's a great time to keep buying and saving as time is not far off.

100k$ is possible to reach it is because bitcoin already reach 65k$ last year 2021 people are continue exploring crypto and i believe that crypto user are rising every year and it makes crypto more popular in the near future more user and more popularity makes the price rise high because the demand will surely rise so 100k$ is possible soon in the next bull season

It's not every year that bitcoin is rising, that's why we have bear market, a time wherein the price is going to nose dive. As you have said, the last all time high is $69k and then we hit bottom last year at $15k. And after that this year we still try to bounce back but we have a long way to go to even get to $40k-$50k at the end of the year.

But if we are going to look at the halving next year, bitcoin is going to be more scarce, meaning it's going to be limited and then everyone wanted to get a piece of it, even sats is going to count that could really push the price and hit a new all time high.

Who can guarantee this? You?
Dude, no one can guarantee that Bitcoin will make another ATH in each bullrun season. Although in the previous bullruns BTC always created new ATH, no guarantee the same thing to happen in the upcoming bullrun. If you check altcoins, there are some altcoins that failed to create ATH in bullrun 2021. It is also possible to happen in Bitcoin. So, we must have a plan to deal with unexpected bullrun schemes.

Of course, bullrun doesn't happen every year, it happens every 4 years.
Well, the market is struggling now. After Bitcoin drops below $20k, it tried to increase gradually. We expect Bitcoin to return above $60k again after BTC halving in 2024.

Anyway, I don't think the lowest price is $15k last year. It seems around $16k or $17k.  :-\

We do really have that called 4 year cycle which it had been known for on which each cycle does have that bear market and consolidation period and a bull run.Somewhat we cant really be able to assure
if  there's a bull run on next year or into the next. Everything would really be determined out by community or investors demand and recognition.This is why when it comes to investment decisions then it would be entirely be depending whether you could be able to bare and deal with the risks or not. Neither be seeing some new ATH or not then we dont really have no choice but to deal with the reality.
Its part of the risks with this kind of investment on which you cant really be able to make sure whether this investment would be making such move in the future or not in regarding  into its price or
value.There are lots of What If's if we do speak about Bitcoin or crypto investment.

I'm leaning more towards reason number 1, and I think only less than 5% of people have bought bitcoins (95% haven't bought or don't know bitcoin).
the number of people from time to time continues to increase and bitcoin investors also continue to grow, while the number of bitcoins is very limited.
I think this reason is enough why we will continue to see new ATH in the future.

the sideways actually are sufficient enough for general trader, doesn't need to hit ATH if the price is having so much sideway already giving opportunity window for those that want to speculate.

considers all time high just bonus in this case since I doubt most of traders are gonne be accumulating from the bottom all the way up to it hitting the all time high.

therefore despite hitting new all time high, rarely most of the people gonna get real benefits out of it other than it just becoming yet another day of ordinary rally.

so basically even if bitcoin didn't ever hit its all time high again, thats okay but then again we've seen the growth of bitcoin that's rather linear.

There was no evidence that Bitcoin would definitely make ATH for the ATHs it did before. Made. There is no proof now either but Bitcoin will make ATH. The reasons you listed are likely to happen, so Bitcoin will make ATH again. Every result I write follows that bitcoin will do ATH. The real question should be: When will Bitcoin make ATH?

ATH will always make people curious, the price of ATH so far is around $69k, in 2017 ATH reached $19k and dropped more than 75% in 2019 but can pass ATH again in 2021, we'll see if ATH will happen in 4 years or not, if it doesn't happen it will make people even more curious and in my opinion as long as bitcoin is still valuable it will continue to be used.

When it comes to ATH then we do really keep on finding or looking or speculating on what are the numbers would be on which it would really be just that a normal approach since all of us are really having that investment.
It would really be just that normal that we would really be that bit excited on what would really be its new numbers or ATH on this upcoming bull run.Lots had been anticipating to see new numbers on which it would really be just a normal approach for someone as we do really excited to see on what Bitcoins price would bring us or on how far we would be able to reach out.If ever we wont be seeing new top for this upcoming
Bull run then there might be something wrong whether people been focusing into other altcoins or there would be some possible flip out. No one really knows about this one until it would happen.
There's no way that we could able to tell on how this market would really be ending up, whether we would be seeing some exciting times or not.

I agree with this. I feel Bitcoin cannot be adopted as we would like if it's not stable. People don't like uncertainties. The reason countries and people around the world decided to store their money in dollars instead of their own local currency is that it was relatively more stable than their local currency. The same will happen to Bitcoin if it was stable.
The volatile nature of Bitcoin makes it difficult for businesses to be used as a medium of payment.
I don't know when and how this would be resolved, but I strongly believe Bitcoin will be stable in the future.

We always have people doubting bitcoin. It’s been declared dozens of times but it just keeps churning out block after block. Tick Tock, Next Block, every 10 minutes approx.

Bitcoin is in a consolidation range, we will break out but it may be a while. I think it’s extremely likely we see a new all time high in the next 12-18 months & a blow off, euphoric top by the end of 2025.

In my opinion, if Bitcoin does not make ATH anymore, of course, in the long run it will make investors slowly leave Bitcoin, if ATH does not occur 10 years, many FUDS will be distributed so that it makes a large panic in the market, people will not believe anymore with Bitcoin so that they will sell at a low price .

The percentage chance for Bitcoin not to see a New ATH is very low, because it's very clear from Bitcoin's white paper that Bitcoin's supply will be cut halve every four years and this makes it likely that the demand will be on the increase as times goes on, but if at all this happens and we couldn't get a new ATH, the interest to invest and trade Bitcoin will still be there but will decrease and people will still take advantages of the bull and bear market so far the volatility which Bitcoin has is still there.

why didn't it happen?
bitcoin will go back up, and reach a new ath because of the speculation of those people who brought it up.
the thoughts of the people who made bitcoin went up again because they spontaneously bought it when the time came.

Bitcoin will always reach new ATH so don't worry, it's just that we are required to be patient in facing the bearish season,
so don't get stuck in bearish because in a bearish season it is time to accumulate Bitcoin again before new ATH occurs.

The chances of Bitcoin hitting a new All-Time High (ATH) are still not that high, but especially if there is a big sell-off from either individuals or whales. However, if Bitcoin fails to reach a new ATH, interest in investing and trading may decrease but not completely disappear. People will continue to capitalize on market volatility, taking advantage of both bull and bear markets as long as Bitcoin's inherent volatility persists.

I think it doesn't matter if bitcoin can't set a record price or ATH, investors will always think that bitcoin is still profitable, this can be seen from the very high daily price fluctuations so it's good if we use it for daily trading, and in my opinion there might be coins that are better than bitcoin so investors don't worry.

For that thing that is definitely slow and the small obstacle is Bitcoin mining difficulty jumped 10% and miners have returned to mining and sometimes selling it too along with the whales. Down is the price of BTC. The good news is that the Lightning Network Bitcoin Capacity https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-lightning-network-capacity-crosses-3900-btc-marking-a-new-ath hit an all-time high of 3915,776 BTC,

Because people think that fluctuations in the bitcoin price are very high, most don't think about seeing whether ATH will happen again or not, as long as they can make a profit even though it's not as big as when ATH happened, it doesn't matter, and I think users will continue to survive even though they are looking for altcoins.

Investors who buy at $ 5000 to $ 8000 do not matter because they are already profitable from Bitcoin,
 but what about those who invest at $ 30k to $ 40k or maybe those who buy at $ 60k? I think it will be a problem if Bitcoin doesn't go to ATH,
but of course we have to be calm, I'm sure many are still not profiting from BTC and even whales also want Profit, I'm sure Bitcoin will go to ATH again.

I think Bitcoin will reach ATH again when the next halving happens. I am very optimistic that later when the bitcoin halving occurs, the price of bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. Moreover, Bitcoin has reached an all-time high price several times. In 2017, Bitcoin reached an ATH of around $20k, then experienced a significant decline in the following period. In 2021, Bitcoin reached a new ATH of around $64k before undergoing a correction.

This goes back to returning momentum by buying on the dip or periodically.
Regardless of all conditions, it is still possible for ATH to occur or not, as long as we are smart enough to use the momentum, I think there is actually no problem with things like this.
Conditions like this are quite natural because indeed we also have to be aware that things like this will gradually happen even though now we are still very confident about bitcoin but that doesn't mean we will be sure forever right.
Get to know what you want to do in progress because it can lead you to a good goal, as long as you have these conditions and have a target for bitcoin in making profits then indeed I think everything can still be controlled by yourself because even in this case bitcoin fluctuations continue to occur doesn't mean we just become loyal spectators when conditions like that occur.

You can be optimistic for obvious reasons, but some concerns about bitcoin's failure to reach new ATHs also exist among investors. I am not ruling out the possibility although I am sure that bitcoin will reach a new ATH in the next few years. If the halving can result in a bitcoin market cap, then ATH can only be expected a few months after the halving.

Even if ATH is not reached, returns from bitcoin can still be expected as long as bitcoin are still being traded. By now many people may already know how the market works, but some FUD and bad news globally will affect them all the time. Be strong with bitcoin until you get the target you want.

People should really be having that kind of mindset and sticking into that general idea that this market is really just like a wavy ocean on which prices could really goes up and down on where there's no way
we could be able to tell on where the prices could eventually go.It might really be looking that bullish in a moment but ending up on being bearish on which it would really be just that normal since we know that this market is really be composed of sellers and buyers which it is really just that a normal approach that you should really be wise on making buying and selling decisions.In speaking into the topic about having that situation
for Bitcoin not to reach some new ATH then there's nothing we do able to know whether it would or wouldnt happen. Everything would really be entirely be depending on the market situation and into its
investors or the community because if we do look around on which there are really that lots of factors which would really affect out market conditions.

I slightly disagree with the statement you are saying, because in the past before there were many other cryptocurrencies on the market, those who bought Bitcoin did not remember ATH at all. Even those who bought in the past were purely because they considered Bitcoin to be the best cryptocurrency so they liked it even though they had no idea about ATH, what I meant by this was those who had bought Bitcoin before ATH happened like in 2012 and also 2013.

What raised the price of Bitcoin was not because of speculation from many people, but because many people already liked Bitcoin so that there were many people who dared to buy spontaneously with more mature consideration, of course. So the increase in the price of Bitcoin is not because there is more speculation, but because there are more people who dare to buy Bitcoin, after which they speculate in order to lure more people to believe in Bitcoin and buy it again on the market.

I hope your explanation is not misleading, especially regarding one's investment and trading plans. You can't completely say that every trader and investor doesn't expect ATH, that's not true in my opinion. Each of them expects their investment to be able to provide returns, and each price can penetrate the highest price, that's why it is called ATH. Actually I'm pretty sure most people buy bitcoin after ATH, did you know that bitcoin have no value at the time the satoshis are creating them?

Every trader and investor who bought bitcoin in the 2012 and 2013 range, I think they bought after bitcoin hit ATH. It's just that, they never know whether there will be another ATH in the coming years like what we are currently experiencing.

I don't think it's a problem if bitcoin doesn't see ATH again because bitcoin is undoubtedly the most popular crypto currency. But many more such coins are in circulation. Bitcoin's nearest competitors include Ethereum, Tether, Binance Coin, Cardano and Polkadot. This competition in cryptocurrencies is good for investors. It cannot skyrocket in value. But in the case of bitcoin, it has become so popular that it has an opportunity to stay ahead of rival currencies.

I think it doesn't matter if bitcoin doesn't happen ATH anymore, a loyal community and continues to increase is an important key that bitcoin will survive, and this is what makes many countries legalize bitcoin, even if ATH doesn't happen again I'm sure users won't leave bitcoin.

I think that many would like to see that bitcoin will continue to reach ATH, because indeed every investor really hopes that ATH is always formed for every period that bitcoin does. because every ATH achievement that will be carried out by bitcoin will always be awaited because it also affects every movement of all existing coins. I agree that the community on bitcoin is indeed quite high but it does not rule out that the need to continue to increase and achieve renewable ATH is highly anticipated.
I think that if you don't see ATH again, of course all investors don't expect it because they are really waiting for this to continue to happen.

So far, bitcoin has had several cycles that have been repeated in roughly the same way, but each time the growth has been smaller. We cannot say for sure that these cycles will be repeated every time. There are exceptions and failures in any system. The second dangerous factor may be that bitcoin has never faced a global crisis, which is the case now. But you are right that many investors have positive hopes.

We cannot work by what others are saying, majority of them were novice and don't understand the whole explanation to bitcoin price movement, some only join in the fear and help nothing than to make it circulate faster when the market is going dip, they will not refer to the periods that the market have always surges when they are at the peak time, we should make our own research and not get too involved with the ongoing news around.

While there are many investors who have more expectations of Bitcoin, it can also be a factor that a repetition of cycles like what has happened in the past can also happen again next year even at a different price range. Because improvements and corrections are two things that have always existed in Bitcoin so this cannot be denied by anyone, even though the desire of many investors is for more positive things to happen in the next year.

To me, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are still just a money game and not a market based purely on supply and demand. Therefore, the forces manipulating the market will always know how to refresh the market, creating new tricks to attract more participants. If bitcoin doesn't hit ATH again, that will make the market boring and people will give up on it. I don't think that will happen, market makers will find ways to keep investors.

That's why it is called cycle, and I doubt that it will be broken in the next block halving. And speaking of block halving, this is very unique design by Satoshi himself and that's why the price keeps getting higher and higher every 4 years because bitcoin is getting limited and scarce.

So there's no question in my mind that it's possible that we are going to hit another all time high again, in 2024-2025.

The best thing to do is simply accumulate and then HODL in the long run.

This is not a mathematical cycle that cannot be broken because it obeys a certain formula. It is a market cycle that can fail, for example because of a crisis. I'm not saying it will happen, I'm just saying that it can't be ruled out. Halving is a major factor in bitcoin deflation, but you can still buy bitcoin on the exchange in almost any quantity. Unless of course you have a trillion dollars.

If you see historical price chart of Bitcoin then its very much evident that cycles keep repeating. With next Bitcoin halving around the corner we can safely speculate that there will be another bull run after the halving. It's best in our interest to buy right now since price is not that high. Whenever we have a bull run people regret that they didnt bought when price was low and when price is low there are speculations which we are discussing right now. One has to take the step towards success and that step is ususally not easy.

What you say is quite reasonable, and indeed it is possible and I also believe in other things even though with the same ending which is almost impossible if Bitcoin does not reach its ATH again.
If we look at the chart from the beginning then the 4 year cycle of Bitcoin reaching its newest ATH has happened several times and I keep believing it will happen and it is true that the market is playing to keep Bitcoin attractive to investors.

It's actually a problem. Bitcoin should see a new ATH after halving and I'll explain: When halving happens, the number of bitcoins that miners get is the half amount of what they were getting before halving, i.e. if miner was earning 10 bitcoins from mining one block, now they earn 5 bitcoins. At the same time, there is a tendency, an expectation that Bitcoin's price will rise after halving. This tendency and expectation is what intensifies their interest to invest in Bitcoin, that's why we reach ATH in every 4 years. But if Bitcoin won't see ATH again, that means, it lost its fire and people are no longer interested in it.
But to be honest, there is a zero chance that we won't see Bitcoin ATH again because of recent Blackrock's interest in Bitcoin. So, no worries guys!

Boring for those who want their assets to fly quickly and not boring for speculators who continue and continue to enjoy falling market prices for their coin accumulation. I think, They are strong hands/whales that are able to boost market prices, of course, They always see the moments too, if it is right, then they will work in market.

Bitcoin is still new and only a small portion of just entering the Crypto industry and technology, so the demand will be very strong if everyone realizes that blockchain technology is very important for the financial bookkeeping system, so the price problem will increase if more and more people are involved, however Indeed, if you look at the outside side like a scheme set by certain parties because it is encouraged by the number of speculations and indeed in investment assets are always sensitivity to the news, but that happens if you really don't learn it for a brighter future potential with Bitcoin, if you understand the technology I think you will dance your words.

Whales investors are only a few of the many retail investors, I think that dominating Bitcoin ownership is not only the Whales, but a lot of small fish also fill this pool, and actually we also don't know whether there will be ATH anymore or not, but certainly Bitcoin always provides proper returns in each cycle, and this is back to their respective views.

I suggest ops stop thinking and just face reality because as far as we know,  bitcoin will break a new market cycle this is not the first time Bitcoin will see ATH because when Bitcoin did 2017-2018 to 2020 $19,000 Bitcoin price all time high, everything know that we are going to see November 8th 2021 all-time high price of $67,567 and that is what bitcoin is all about, even though no one can predict the accuracy of time when the next all-time high and at what price Bitcoin will be at that time.


But there is also what we know as the Bitcoin haven cycle which occurs every 4th year when by the block size and Bitcoin miner's rewards will reduce which is something that will be a reduction in the Bitcoin total supply and many think that it will breed avenues for Bitcoin scarcity which will lead to price rise.

Boredom is hard to get rid of, but that doesn't mean it can't be avoided because boredom only arises when someone is waiting for the best price in the market by constantly looking at the price after he buys to trade, not to invest. While investors usually don't mind waiting a little longer to see the best price in the market, they would also be happier if they didn't wait longer for their investment. Price jacks from those who have strong hands, usually will have more influence on prices in the market, but this is not guaranteed to last long if only a few people have strong hands for this.

Bitcoin will keep increasing in price because after halving of Bitcoin, Bitcoin scarcity will also increase as the amount of Bitcoin entering the market will be reduced. This is the exact reason whey Bitcoin price keep increasing after every halving, there's less Bitcoin been traded.

Bitcoin new all time high is what keeps the market moving, everyone is investing and believing they'll get more profits when Bitcoin gets new all time high and other coins follows. If Bitcoin stops getting new all time highs it means the market is dead and investors will reduced.

We should be discussing what the new all time high is going to be instead of doubting if it will happen because it's a constant behavior of the market to get a new all time high price after every halving has happened. This year will also follow previous cycle of the market.

Well, from me One of the reasons why there may be an all-time high (ATH) for Bitcoin (BTC) is the Growth in Global Adoption that the crypto world, in the future continues to develop. This can be seen from the increasing interest of many individuals and institutions who are aware of Bitcoin and its potential benefits the direction there will be Demand which increases day by day either so that it can push Bitcoin price to new ATH. for the three points above, as you said, it is also right and not wrong and also leads to an increase in the price of BTC.

Everything would really vary on the demand because if the the supply or block rewards getting decreased on every halving but the demand keeps increasing then it would really be just pertaining with that basic

supply and demand thing on which it would be understandable that prices and value would really be increasing and its something inevitable. Wont really be seeing its ATH again? We've been saying this wayback
when the price ATH playing around 19k as far as i remember but look at on where we are now? This is why it wont really be that ideal to have that kind of conclusive approach just because you have seen those
price pull backs and lots of fuds circling around the market. Common reactions but not something new because we are really that impulsive whenever we do see that prices is really that
going into those levels which we are event expecting to. Just go with the flow and dont make yourself that stressed on whatever you do see on those charts.

There is no doubt that Bitcoin will see ATH again and it will reach higher levels. If you notice how much the Bitcoin market grew in 2021, you will have an idea about the Bitcoin market. We know that the bitcoin market halves every four years and then the bull market begins. And when a bull market begins in the market, the price of Bitcoin continues to increase in momentum.  It is true that when the Bitcoin market reached its all-time high, people were interested in investing heavily in it. But there is no doubt that the Bitcoin market will reach $100,000 in 2024 It is certainly possible and we will see.

ATH is something that motivates many people to buy because of the large profit potential. ATH is something that we are really looking forward to, usually ATH occurs due to positive sentiment in the market, for example the legalization of bitcoin in a country, this will make the number of users increase significantly so as to make the price jump shortly.

In my opinion, bitcoin still has a very big chance, to be able to reach a new ATH, in the years to come. Why do I think like that, it's all because the trend and popularity of bitcoin among people is getting higher and much in demand. So if this continues to run smoothly, in the future it is certain that in terms of market demand for bitcoin will be even higher, and so the price of bitcoin will automatically increase.

So basically I agree with this opinion.

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But I don't agree with this opinion. What does fiat mean by exploding, I think for now, this opinion is excessive. Because after all, fiat will definitely exist, because it is the most absolute payment system in many countries. Indeed bitcoin can be an alternative for a payment, but if it is to replace fiat money as a whole, in my opinion this will definitely have pros and cons and will definitely be difficult. Even though at this time, there is a country of El Salvador that has successfully adopted bitcoin as a means of payment. But still the previous currency is still used.

True, it's because throughout the history of bitcoin, in a bull run, we always see new all time high every 4 years. And with that, we buy in the bear market and simply HODL and with for bull run season.


It might take years though, and so others doesn't have that mentality to be a investor for such a long time. But for us, and for those who experience it, definitely, we are going to be looking forward to it because we know that we can make a lot of money and profited, simply as that.

The average person does buy bitcoin motivated because there is always an increase in price in each cycle on the ATH, the 4 year cycle is proof that we have time to buy when it is bearish and sell it when it hits the highest price level.

That has become the behavior we have to do with bitcoin, doing HODL that is years old to get a decent profit from bitcoin, holding mentality and consistency is indeed a mandatory instrument in holding bitcoin, because the storm of volatility like last year caused by Luna and FTX will make people who are not strong enough to sell bitcoin at a loss.

Indeed there is such a belief among investors, they take advantage of cycles to buy low and sell during bullruns. The potential return that they will get is so high if we review the past history of bitcoin after the halving, so it is true that many investors will invest in bitcoin now because they want to get big returns after the halving.

Whatever their current strategy when invest in bitcoin will definitely benefit them greatly in the long term. As long as bitcoin hasn't passed its last ATH then it's a great area to buy a lot. Buy on the dip and hold, it is good advice to expect returns in the long term.

Not like that, even if there is legalization from a country it will not increase significantly, we know that bitcoin always has several bearish and bullish phases this always takes a long time, but from a surge in terms of price it will not be short.

Because they know that every 4-year cycle there is always a record that is broken for the price of bitcoin, more people buy then HODL and they invest in the long term, still the history of each cycle is the most awaited moment.
During that journey they must be strong to hold on, I know there are still many people who fail halfway through because there is no mentality in themselves so they decide to sell halfway through when the price is low.

It's impossible, i expect you to make this assumption maybe if all the bitcoin blocks had been completely mined and we don't know what is going to be the next step to expect after a four year interval of space, but going with what we already have now, bitcoin will always rise and get a new all time high after every four years as long as the halving occurs, this makes bitcoin have increased in value and decrease in supply, which brings about it profitability.


Bitcoin cannot be inflated and only increases in value through this when the occassion of halving is marked, it value increases and there's profitabilities attached during this period.

I think the theory is not wrong, that is positive sentiment which is the reference for why bitcoin has increased in price, and bearish and bullish phases also have reasons why bitcoin has decreased and why increases have occurred, more or less the influence of that phase will also have an increase or decrease, we do not know what triggers will come in the bullrun phase later for bitcoin to form its new ATH, what is certain is that any sentiment will have an influence on movement.

It seems that you don't have the slightest doubt about bitcoin and really believe that the 4-year cycle will always repeat itself, that's a good thing, friend, but do you take into account that in 2021 the supply of money anywhere is very high, which is the reason people who have the money put it in bitcoin, but we don't know 2025 whether there is that much money circulating again or crazier than in 2021.

All Crypto users of course believe that Bitcoin will reach a new ATH in the future and repeat history again, after an increase, it will experience a sharp decline again but not until it reaches a point 0 or becomes worthless.
Enthusiastic crypto users or investors are certainly competing to be able to obtain large amounts of Bitcoin, because they realize that the supply of Bitcoin is limited, the scarcer the number of Bitcoins that exist or the more people hold them, it can reduce the value of the Bitcoin supply itself.  This of course can affect the market price.

Actually i couldn’t think only negative. I am always positive thinking man. I think within 2024 Bitcoin will go New ATH. Day by day Bitcoin Being popular. You told till now 90% people in the world not bought Bitcoin. But i think gradually people are buying bitcoin and this buying people gradually increasing. I think within 1/2 years 15%-20% people will buy Bitcoin. And if it will happen then i think bitcoin price will hit minimum $150k-$200k there has no doubt. So i believe within short time bitcoin price will touch new ATH.

Well we can't but to think of all the positive side of bitcoin specially in it's young history that every 4 years, we are going to see a bull run and then new all time high to all of us.

That's how it is so why not think of bitcoin not hitting a new ATH, nevertheless if we want to prepare for the worst then we have seen it already. We have the FTX collapse last year, and then seeing the bottom price of $15,500 give and take. So it's just about time to discuss the "what" of the next bull run. What is the next ATH for us? And yes, minimum is 6 digits and can go as high as $180k (personal prediction).

We are very opposite. I mean, I am not that negative, but I usually do not expect things because if I do, I can't control my emotions. But right now, while holding bitcoin, I do say that there is a real possibility that Bitcoin won't reach its current price. What if next year it was the opposite? We don't know. I'm the kind of person who settles on what the price is; if I just gain a small profit, then I'm good with it. Most of us were expecting it, but I'd be content whether it reached or didn't, but I'd prefer it hit another ATH.

We don't know whether ATH will happen or not, and in my opinion as long as the cryptocurrencies community is solid and continues to grow, if it does not happen again, it is not too much of a problem, as we know that daily trading is more popular than direct transactions so as to make bitcoin can survive even though it does not reach Ath again.

In fact, this may be the answer to the question of what level should I buy Bitcoin at. Bitcoin must be purchased before it exceeds the old ATH.

The general majority thinks that the bull season will come after the halving. Bitcoin's price rises above expectations in certain cycles. This creates new expectations in people. Now the expectation is Halving's approach.

The topic asks what will happen if Bitcoin does not see ATH again. I never thought that Bitcoin would not make a new ATH. Because I do not believe that such a situation can happen. I think it will go above 100,000 as an initial target and then continually raise its ATH. Bitcoin's solid development over the years proves to me that it will always make new ATHs.

Each person does have their own targets or levels on which they would really be considering on buying back and this is why on every price movement or condition then there would really be a different approach and

actions that would be made of a certain individual.Some would really be just sitting still and there are ones who would really be diving in on making such accumulation because they do really see it as an opportunity for them to accumulate cheaper coins but of course its not really that a guarantee that they had made out the right decision until the price would move out on what they had predicted then it would really be resulting into making profits on which it would really be just that be the opposite because there's no way on knowing on where prices would be moving and this is the hard thing about on this volatile and unpredcitable market.

Speaking about on not to see new ATH again or even to reach out its previous ATH? There's no way on telling that because it would all vary on the demand and recognition
on which this is something that cant be known because the community would be the ones who would really be making out such judgement.

I am optimistic in saying that in the next 1 to 2 years, we will see new ATHs. I don't have much doubt about that because I think the factors that support my assumption will definitely be in 2024. Halving is one of the factors I'm referring to, while several other supporting factors will come hand in hand with widespread adoption.

Don't doubt bitcoin's potential in the long term, but you might want to consider diversifying your budget to some other assets instead of just crypto. Bitcoin is great, but there's nothing wrong if you want to buy some other physical asset like gold or something. In conclusion, ATH will exist but we can never know what the highest value will be in the future.

Bitcoin will record a new ATH price but we won't know when. The winning market cycle will have a big impact when we see BTC reach ATH. I think BTC holders, they're relatively not going to make ATH their main target, but they make their main target is to accumulate a lot of btc in every time they have the budget to do it.

ATH will come unknowingly because the highest price will be triggered by buying which strengthens day by day. So in essence don't follow the run of weak hands taking profits as they waste opportunities to hit big targets in their portfolio when bitcoin hits a new ath.

Bitcoin's price of $20k, which seemed unattainable years ago, is today considered a modest price. Everyone is currently searching for and hoping for a new ATH, which is currently estimated to be $100,000. Nobody knows when the $100k will arrive. But when it does, in years to come when it will be as common as the previous bitcoin price of $20k.

In this way, the price of bitcoin will see a new ATH every four years, making the previous ATH price seem low to bitcoin holders. It continues in this way until eventually, the price of a bitcoin reaches $1 million price in the future

Bitcoin is a limited commodity of value or currency should I go that way. It was made this limited not to deprive certain people the chance to own some but, it comes to give the public a chance to actually make it what it ought to be without the need to create new bitcoins.
The world is over populated right now and economic crisis thrives, currencies depreciate in value, living the public to sort out for alternatives of which, it could be found in bitcoin.
With the value of bitcoin as it is, should all the coins be mined, it wouldn’t be enough to serve the growing population and as such, the least Sat having some actual value to it would be a reason why the current ATH can’t continue to hodl.

Try to mention the basis of the argument that you try to convey, why will Bitcoin not reach ATH anymore? This idea must also be seen based on what your study is, so deciding Bitcoin will not reach that again. The law of demand and supply becomes a considerable basis regarding it, so the connection is clearly something that can be exceeded based on the study of why Bitcoin will still get ATH moments. Price fluctuations will never affect the maximum that can be achieved and for decades whenever I believe Bitcoin will continue to run as it is today and will continue to get the moment of ATH.

The existence of ATH is caused by a recurring cycle, Bitcoin never fails to reach the highest point every time influenced by the cycle and that is why before reaching ATH we can see Halving through the cycle. No need to worry because the Bitcoin journey will continue to look like that and there will always be a process of buying/buying in it that affects.

Well I do not think this is going to not happen. I think we will see Bitcoin all time high again when we have next halving in less then 261 days from now.

This is much time more for more adoption and regulation. Still so many things can happen before that time. Just do not look at your wallet and be patient and continue to hodl.

No one knows because anything can happen due to several factors that we didn't know before, and as long as there are pros and cons, the price of bitcoin will continue to rise and fall suddenly due to some unpredictable factors like previous events.
But I'm very optimistic that bitcoin price will come back up or close to ATH or so, and to really implement that, everyone needs to stop reading heavily manipulated news by government and crypto Wales or others. Better fill your bags now while the prices are still arguably low then sit back, it will start a bit slower this time around but I suspect by the middle of next year it should work fine.

not to brag your post , but for me ? bitcoin will always reach ATH even if this take a longer time because if bitcoin stopped breaking its ATH then this means the whole crypto market is dying .
that would be the outcome of that market falling.
so  try to trust this market and Bitcoin or never at all.

If bitcoin just drops to a price below $20,000, you can be sure that everyone is competing to buy it. Why are they buying? because they believe that bitcoin will continue to increase every 4 years. So I agree with you that if bitcoin doesn't create ATH, then you can be sure that the crypto market is no longer in demand and is not just a falling market.Until now, there are still many who believe the bitcoin market will continue to shine, and there are still many who have become investors.

Of course, many investors will increase their investment if the bitcoin price drops below 20k again, meaning bitcoin has decreased -70% from the ATH price, the market predicts that there may not be a significant decline ahead of the halving period as the market recovers to reach the previous ATH price or potentially reach ATH after a few months of the halving period. Bitcoin will be able to reach ATH in the long term, although not necessarily in the halving period, many other factors will support an increase in bitcoin prices such as wider adoption of bitcoin use in several developed countries, and many other factors that will make achieving ATH even closer. So prepare bitcoin assets when the price is still low because we have no doubts about holding bitcoin in the long term, the history of bitcoin price movements has proven that the highest bitcoin price achievement never disappoints and the bitcoin price increases according to the ATH target we predicted.

Agreed, history probably won't repeat itself but that doesn't mean bitcoin won't generate a new ATH, just that it will take longer. History has shown us that the halving is the most powerful catalyst for bitcoin's new ATH, but this time if things don't go as we expected. But as long as bitcoin adoption continues to increase on a daily basis there is nothing to worry about whether bitcoin will continue to rise in price. There will never be an increase in demand while a fixed supply will not help bitcoin increase in price. Bitcoin price increase is inevitable.

I guess you are new to the world of the financial market, if not you wouldn't say this. The market follows some rules, though it's dynamic, meaning that it doesn't follow any rules perfectly. And if you must know in plain terms, market history and the cycle repeats itself, I've witnessed many of them.

It's true that there is no compulsion or validator that Bitcoin must reach the ATH again, but you must know that the history, tradition and speculation, sentiments and expectation around the coin will surely make it happen. It's obvious that Bitcoin reached its former lifetime peak due to huge capitalisation, and this happened when it was not as popular as this.

It's practical that more money would be injected into it when it's more popular as people now value it more than before. There is no way this would not make it hit another ATH in due time.

Definitely, whales and even average joe like the rest of us are keen on buying cheap bitcoin. Specially those who are smart and see that this is a great opportunity to snag those cheap BTC when it goes down hard.

The same thing when we have our bottom last year, black swan events like Terra Luna and the FTX collapse, price were so cheap that you can buy them at a discount and it's just one of the best opportunity we had although I don't believed that we can see that again this year, specially that we are nearing the end of the year and then preparing for the halving.

Looking at the current market cap situation, it is certain that Bitcoin will grow. This will generate huge ATH like 100k. And now the value of Bitcoin is within reach. So buy as much as you can. Its value can sometimes go out of reach. Because it is certain that in Bitcoin, then a huge one will generate ATH.