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Title: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Dunamisx on April 29, 2023, 10:42:23 AM
Can we make it little more fun with this, i will like to hear from us the place we are standing at in holding bitcoin in comparing to those having much investment in bitcoin otherwise called whales and other institutions or individuals having little portion of their bitcoin they are holding, because at the end of it all, everyone is a holder as long as you've invested.

Here's the percentage of bitcoin holders and what you need to hold to be in each category belonging to bitcoin holders.

https://i.imgur.com/J0TVrg5.jpg
https://twitter.com/Vikingobitcoin9/status/1651922754554195969?t=1mFAzg2Hafpee2A2Adbkqw&s=19

In my own case, i still finds myself below the last category which means am holding lesser than 0.135btc as at now, can we make it interactive by giving our own standing point as at now.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Z-tight on April 29, 2023, 10:49:53 AM
I don't know how other members will take this topic, but i don't think it is correct or safe to estimate to the general public how much BTC you have, that can make you a target of attack. Some people here even know each other in real life, now i can imagine someone claiming they have >1 BTC here and some members know who they are, it is unsafe and a $5 wrench attack can happen to you. I prefer to say i have 0 BTC. Don't make your BTC holdings public.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: OcTradism on April 29, 2023, 10:50:49 AM
Another view for bitcoin distributions.
Bitcoin wallet address types and balance Distribution  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450587.0).

You can self check it from Top 100 richest Bitcoin addresses (https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html) by Bitinfocharts.com.

With my experience and my mistakes in the past, I really think that it is not matter that how many bitcoins you have now but the matter is whether you will be able to hold those amount of bitcoins next few years (most important) and will be able to increase that amount?

If you are able to hold that amount for a few years, 5 years at least, it is very good. It's not a pressure for you to try increasing that amount and at the end, you have less than your initial amount.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Lucius on April 29, 2023, 10:54:42 AM
Someone obviously likes to play with sea creatures, but it's nothing new that we haven't seen before - because most of the holders are at the bottom of the food chain anyway, which means shrimp&crabs🦀🦐

It may sound strange, but it doesn't matter to me how much BTC someone owns, but whether they understand what they own and whether they use it in the right way.

See here -> Who are you according to Glassnode classification? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314657.0) @lovesmayfamilis

https://i.ibb.co/kc85Vf6/Screenshot-1.png


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Wapfika on April 29, 2023, 11:01:16 AM
This is already a similar topic of Bitcoin wallet address types and balance Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450587.msg62166675#msg62166675) which shows sea creatures as graphical representation on the size of Bitcoin holdings.

This picture is very popular on twitter. The update of Glassnode makes this chart popular again but I saw this many times on social media.

But as usual, I’m on the Anchovis category if the Shrimp will have a subcategory for smaller holder.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: riantolie on April 29, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
I'm not even in the top 5%. But I'll get there this year for sure. My goal is to get 0.5 BTC before it hits $100k.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: knowngunman on April 29, 2023, 11:08:49 AM

In my own case, i still finds myself below the last category which means am holding lesser than 0.135btc as at now, can we make it interactive by giving our own standing point as at now.

There are certain things in life that one has to keep private but three among them are the most important. These three are your earnings, your next plan and of course your investment. We live in a society where we are surrounded by enemies who do not like seeing others to prosper. Revealing your earnings, plan and investment to public is unhealthy either online or offline. You might become a target for evil minded.

Those influencials elite that media is publishing their net worths have been a victim one way or another either having more enemies or criminal attacks on their companies.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on April 29, 2023, 11:14:48 AM
This topic is actually good discussing about our holdings but what I understand is that it will be very hard for people to come here telling you the amount of bitcoin they are holding or even disclosed the certain number they're holding here due to some security purpose so I doubt if is possible disclosing ours but nevertheless, maybe there are some people who might be free revealing their hold.
Have you ever seen those whales coming to announce or discussed the amount of bitcoin they have been holding? Such as Elon Musk can never do that on twitter or some institution revealing the exact amount they hold, what you could only see is; so so address transferred thousands of bitcoin to unknown wallet which have no bearer name.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: yhiaali3 on April 29, 2023, 11:15:44 AM
I've seen it before, but most people like to keep their privacy about the amount of bitcoins they own, some of them also try to hide that they own bitcoins at all.

For me, I do not find myself in this category because I only hold a small amount of Bitcoin. I earn bitcoins through my work, but I have to cover my family's expenses, so I cannot hold a large amount.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: gantez on April 29, 2023, 11:22:29 AM
I don't know who is in the first level, how possible to have that amount of bitcoin ?

I just have to generalize it for you that good majority are still in that level you put to yourself, below the last level of hodlers. To have public display of how much btc you have is security risk, it mean immediate accessing of how rich you are and that is risk if no security guard following you ;D


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Darker45 on April 29, 2023, 11:28:01 AM
I think I won't be divulging as sensitive an information as to how much Bitcoin I have. The less information one shares about his/her Bitcoin, the safer he/she will be. But I don't have much, so I might just be in the top 5. I used to have a good number of Bitcoin in the past. Although I am generally a hodler, I also made several conversions before because of compelling reasons. If I'm not mistaken, I even sold a portion of my Bitcoin portfolio in the 2018 bear market. But, of course, it's not because of fear or panic.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: passwordnow on April 29, 2023, 11:35:54 AM
It's quite proud to see that you know your category in that statistics. But having it said that you're in this particular category publicly isn't good for your privacy of broadcasting how much you've got currently. Even if we're in the forum, it's all on you whether to speak of how much estimated you've got but then since it is only a range. I highly doubt those that are in 0.1% will say it or even those that are part of the 1% club based on that image.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: hugeblack on April 29, 2023, 11:40:56 AM
It is wrong to say publicly that I own ten bitcoins. The risk of hackers will increase, as you will be an ideal target for them.

there is no meaning for such classifications. For example, getting $5,000 in a country is considered wealth and sufficient to live a good life, while in other countries it is not enough for half. Month.

What I am trying to say is that such regulations and lists are not ideal for the whole world, just as the amount of Bitcoin was a donation in the year 2013 and now it is considered a year's effort of work.
50 Bitcoin represents a fortune now and in the past it was 10 minutes in a regular laptop.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: ajiz138 on April 29, 2023, 11:45:21 AM
Have you ever seen those whales coming to announce or discussed the amount of bitcoin they have been holding? Such as Elon Musk can never do that on twitter or some institution revealing the exact amount they hold, what you could only see is; so so address transferred thousands of bitcoin to unknown wallet which have no bearer name.
Except for MicroStretegi who announced their purchase and ownership, it is not certain how accurate the amount of BTC the company has.
Because indeed every whale never publishes their BTC holdings, nor do other people ever have an exact amount of BTC.

I've seen it before, but most people like to keep their privacy about the amount of bitcoins they own, some of them also try to hide that they own bitcoins at all.
I once mentioned bitcoin ownership but now that has changed, I will not tell anyone the amount of BTC in possession of which obviously remains private for security reasons, so a holder will definitely shut up never talk about ownership.

For me, I do not find myself in this category because I only hold a small amount of Bitcoin. I earn bitcoins through my work, but I have to cover my family's expenses, so I cannot hold a large amount.
Family needs will be more important than anything else, even if you only hold a small amount of BTC but it will big in the future if you manage to keep holding it.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on April 29, 2023, 12:06:11 PM
Have you ever seen those whales coming to announce or discussed the amount of bitcoin they have been holding? Such as Elon Musk can never do that on twitter or some institution revealing the exact amount they hold, what you could only see is; so so address transferred thousands of bitcoin to unknown wallet which have no bearer name.
Except for MicroStretegi who announced their purchase and ownership, it is not certain how accurate the amount of BTC the company has.
Because indeed every whale never publishes their BTC holdings, nor do other people ever have an exact amount of BTC.

There is no authenticity mate! If they announces how do you know is the exact of what they said?
So it's better to stay private than exposing oneself of the total amounts you (we) are holding. Although there are few people here who don't own enough volume of bitcoin rather just some fractions they got from few task over here so these sets of people may easily open up with their holdings since they attach no much value rather than selling for some personal expenses.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: ultrloa on April 29, 2023, 12:12:36 PM
I don't know how other members will take this topic, but i don't think it is correct or safe to estimate to the general public how much BTC you have, that can make you a target of attack. Some people here even know each other in real life, now i can imagine someone claiming they have >1 BTC here and some members know who they are, it is unsafe and a $5 wrench attack can happen to you. I prefer to say i have 0 BTC. Don't make your BTC holdings public.

Yeah and better to me more discreet about things like sharing our funds since we don't know if all of the readers is here to read up fun informations from other forum members. Since there are other seeking for potential victim so if you show some eye catchy to them maybe we will be a target of their attacks. Better to stay low key always to avoid anything that can cause us stress or worse a heavy financial loss.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: virasog on April 29, 2023, 12:13:00 PM
Most people will fall in category 5 here or even less. Most of us do not have even that much amount of bitcoin but should aim to be in the top 5 category.
0.135 bitcoin is equal to around 4000$ and everyone should aim to get this amount with them.


I don't know how other members will take this topic, but i don't think it is correct or safe to estimate to the general public how much BTC you have, that can make you a target of attack. Some people here even know each other in real life, now i can imagine someone claiming they have >1 BTC here and some members know who they are, it is unsafe and a $5 wrench attack can happen to you. I prefer to say i have 0 BTC. Don't make your BTC holdings public.

I do not understand how can it be unsafe to declare how many bitcoin do you own ? With bitcointalk we do not have done any KYC and there are no traces of who you are in the real world. So even if you say that you have 1 bitcoin, no one can come after you to snatch that bitcoinBTC  ???


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Z-tight on April 29, 2023, 12:51:39 PM
I do not understand how can it be unsafe to declare how many bitcoin do you own ? With bitcointalk we do not have done any KYC and there are no traces of who you are in the real world. So even if you say that you have 1 bitcoin, no one can come after you to snatch that bitcoinBTC  ???
If you declare it here, you can declare it elsewhere, the message is to learn the habit of not declaring or disclosing it at all, it is all about building up great operational security. You should also know that some members here have posted things like their telegram username, other social media usernames or even their email; if an attacker knows you have a large amount of BTC, you can become a target through these means, or even through forum pm, they can send phishing and malware links to you, or set up other scam methods to attack you, and if the person does not know the ways of scammers, they could fall for it and lose their BTC's.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Wexnident on April 29, 2023, 01:08:18 PM
Can we make it little more fun with this, i will like to hear from us the place we are standing at in holding bitcoin in comparing to those having much investment in bitcoin otherwise called whales and other institutions or individuals having little portion of their bitcoin they are holding, because at the end of it all, everyone is a holder as long as you've invested.

Here's the percentage of bitcoin holders and what you need to hold to be in each category belonging to bitcoin holders.
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In my own case, i still finds myself below the last category which means am holding lesser than 0.135btc as at now, can we make it interactive by giving our own standing point as at now.
Not even the last one. I'm still proud though. I mean if we pull out numbers I reckon holders would be at the top (single digit) % among the entire population of the world. Plus it isn't really a competition, even if it was for fun I wouldn't really trip myself into feeling bad since I only hold a small amount compared to the top holders. We're all holders anw as OP pointed out.

If you declare it here, you can declare it elsewhere, the message is to learn the habit of not declaring or disclosing it at all, it is all about building up great operational security. You should also know that some members here have posted things like their telegram username, other social media usernames or even their email; if an attacker knows you have a large amount of BTC, you can become a target through these means, or even through forum pm, they can send phishing and malware links to you, or set up other scam methods to attack you, and if the person does not know the ways of scammers, they could fall for it and lose their BTC's.
I don't deny that it increases the chances, but in the end wouldn't you assume that everyone here would hold a sizeable amount of knowledge with regards to security and proper storing practices? I'm probably pretty lax about it though since I'm not part of those top owners.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Jating on April 29, 2023, 01:13:17 PM
Most likely the majority here could be in the last tier. No offense, but it seems every one is late on the bandwagon, or least just join the fun in 2017 and we really don't know what to expect or at least have plans to accumulate as much as we can. Or even if he did save a lot, maybe sold off during the height of the bull run to make money and take that profits.

Nothing is wrong with that, but at least if we didn't sell our stash and wait for the bear market, accumulate, rinse and repeat them maybe as time goes by, we could be going up in the tier position.

But I would understand if everyone is not going to disclosed how much BTC they have.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: famososMuertos on April 29, 2023, 01:41:55 PM
I was reading an article* that more than 50% have not moved their bitcoin in the last 2 years, etc. I think that it is the analysis that you have to have or look for in that sense of possession, that is, to know how much a certain user has, except that, perhaps it can have a price-effect, the rest is snobbery, hence present yourself in a post and mention I have so much, what is the use.

*Bitcoin in circulation: Over 50% hasn’t moved in 2 years, Glassnode says (https://www.investing.com/news/cryptocurrency-news/bitcoin-in-circulation-over-50-hasnt-moved-in-2-years-glassnode-says-3051669)


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: BITCOIN4X on April 29, 2023, 02:16:12 PM
It is wrong to say publicly that I own ten bitcoins. The risk of hackers will increase, as you will be an ideal target for them.
Absolutely, and every holder should at least maintain good financial privacy and should never say it online or offline to anyone they don't know. The risk of being hacked will greatly increase, in fact, hackers are very likely to target pigs rather than prawn.

I'm not going to take part in saying how many bitcoin I have, but the average of us is probably no better than prawn or maybe crab so far. It's not big deal, but of course what they need to care about is how they use bitcoin and how they keep their wallet safe. One of the wallet security advice is, don't show your bitcoin to other people.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: FahriZah on April 29, 2023, 02:54:57 PM
Actually i,m a small investors because i have only small amount if i have big amount of money than i can investment more & more and my position will increasing continuously still now i,m a small invertors and i,m trying to invest more in crypto currency sectors because i hope very soon starting bull market in crypto and futures brightness easily.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: kryptqnick on April 29, 2023, 02:55:24 PM
I'm sure many here won't feel comfortable sharing how much they currently have in Bitcoin, for privacy and safety reasons. And while I like the picture and approach, couldn't they at least make different creatures for all different levels rather than 3 crabs in a row?
What I am surprised with is that being in top-5% takes a relatively low amount of BTC, which means that bitcoin is distributed much better than many might assume (I mean, if you can be in top-5% without being truly rich, I think it's saying something).


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Yatsan on April 29, 2023, 03:03:19 PM
Can we make it little more fun with this, i will like to hear from us the place we are standing at in holding bitcoin in comparing to those having much investment in bitcoin otherwise called whales and other institutions or individuals having little portion of their bitcoin they are holding, because at the end of it all, everyone is a holder as long as you've invested.

Here's the percentage of bitcoin holders and what you need to hold to be in each category belonging to bitcoin holders.

https://i.imgur.com/J0TVrg5.jpg
https://twitter.com/Vikingobitcoin9/status/1651922754554195969?t=1mFAzg2Hafpee2A2Adbkqw&s=19

In my own case, i still finds myself below the last category which means am holding lesser than 0.135btc as at now, can we make it interactive by giving our own standing point as at now.
To be honest, I have only a small asset in Bitcoin and for sure I'd be on the lower category. But that us just fine for me simply because I cannot afford risking all of my finds in one bucket. Bitcoin is for sure one of the investments which has high profit potential but in line with this, is volatility which is something not all people could really handle. As for me, I would prefer just managing the risks on all of my investments and that includes putting or setting portions than to go all out. It simply allows me to minimize losing that much. All I know is, no matter how big or small your investment, as you have mentioned, that would be fine. What's more important is having the courage to move one step forward.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Ultegra134 on April 29, 2023, 03:12:45 PM
I don't know how other members will take this topic, but i don't think it is correct or safe to estimate to the general public how much BTC you have, that can make you a target of attack. Some people here even know each other in real life, now i can imagine someone claiming they have >1 BTC here and some members know who they are, it is unsafe and a $5 wrench attack can happen to you. I prefer to say i have 0 BTC. Don't make your BTC holdings public.
I understand your point, but Bitcoin holdings are pretty much public; you can easily find someone's Bitcoin address through their posts if they've shared it in the past or through your signature campaign if you're participating in one. On top of that, I find the photo quite inacurate; it consists of only a few scales that place the majority of us on the bottom scale. The following one is the accurate one, starting from as little as 0.001 BTC (0 to 0.001). I'm sitting on the 0.10 to 1 BTC which accounts for 10.32% of the total addresses.
https://i.ibb.co/Tvg5pVF/EAp6as9-Xo-AIFKWa.jpg (https://ibb.co/QbKGz21)


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: gunhell16 on April 29, 2023, 03:30:42 PM
Maybe OP the only people who will participate in this game of your choice on this topic are the people or communities who only have small holdings of Bitcoin, but I'm not sure. I don't even know if you made this topic right.

As it used to be for me, you find out the bitcoin holdings amount of anyone here in the forum, which is not good to hear and read because we are all anonymous here. You know what it means, even if others say that I am very sensitive. I can't do anything, that's what I feel and I'm just trying to say it.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 29, 2023, 03:41:46 PM
Whether I have more than 1 Bitcoins, or less than 1 Bitcoins, I will not say it in public, but I will only say one thing, I'm not even included in the list OP has posted.

I guess majority of the people here will not say there real total Bitcoin holdings. I mean if you said "I have 5 Bitcoins", and they saw your rank as a newbie, you might be flooded by PM's coming from scammers out there. Overall, whether it's for fun or not, I guess it's not good to share your real Bitcoin holdings here especially if somebody from this forum know you personally, and you might be a victim of that infamous 5$ wrench attack. I don't feel comfortable to share it here even though I know that my Bitcoin holdings is just a small amount compare to some here who might have more than 1 Bitcoin, but just keeping their mouth shut for their safety.

I guess what I can say is that, I'm proud that I'm one of the investors who manage to accumulate Bitcoin during the bear market. :D For sure, there are some who decided not to buy at that time because of panic. Still, disclosing how many Bitcoins you have is not advisable especially here in a public forum.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: serveria.com on April 29, 2023, 04:09:04 PM
Can we make it little more fun with this, i will like to hear from us the place we are standing at in holding bitcoin in comparing to those having much investment in bitcoin otherwise called whales and other institutions or individuals having little portion of their bitcoin they are holding, because at the end of it all, everyone is a holder as long as you've invested.

Here's the percentage of bitcoin holders and what you need to hold to be in each category belonging to bitcoin holders.

https://i.imgur.com/J0TVrg5.jpg
https://twitter.com/Vikingobitcoin9/status/1651922754554195969?t=1mFAzg2Hafpee2A2Adbkqw&s=19

In my own case, i still finds myself below the last category which means am holding lesser than 0.135btc as at now, can we make it interactive by giving our own standing point as at now.

But where are the whales?  ;D  Anyway, I prefer not to answer for opsec reasons and I also recommend everyone to abstain from answering as it could be dangerous! Bad guys are out there hunting for your precious coins!  8)


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: KingsDen on April 29, 2023, 04:33:48 PM
Can we make it little more fun with this, i will like to hear from us the place we are standing at in holding bitcoin in comparing to those having much investment in bitcoin otherwise called whales and other institutions or individuals having little portion of their bitcoin they are holding, because at the end of it all, everyone is a holder as long as you've invested.

Here's the percentage of bitcoin holders and what you need to hold to be in each category belonging to bitcoin holders.

https://i.imgur.com/J0TVrg5.jpg
https://twitter.com/Vikingobitcoin9/status/1651922754554195969?t=1mFAzg2Hafpee2A2Adbkqw&s=19

In my own case, i still finds myself below the last category which means am holding lesser than 0.135btc as at now, can we make it interactive by giving our own standing point as at now.

In the Bitcoin world, some things are meant to remain private.
Even if it is not related to bitcoin and cryptocurrency, an ordinary Joe cannot be so comfortable to tell you how much he has in his fiat bank account. This is someone that is not privacy and security conscious. How then do you expect Bob who is privacy and security conscious, who has known the importance of investing in Bitcoin and has left the traditional bank to invest in Bitcoin, to come publicly and tell you how much he holds.

I don't think that anyone would be ready and willing to give out such sensitive information. Anyone that would try to answer this question can be some kind of a scammer, who would try to exaggerate their holdings in order to lure in potential victims.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Botnake on April 29, 2023, 04:46:07 PM
Most likely the majority here could be in the last tier. No offense, but it seems every one is late on the bandwagon, or least just join the fun in 2017 and we really don't know what to expect or at least have plans to accumulate as much as we can. Or even if he did save a lot, maybe sold off during the height of the bull run to make money and take that profits.

Nothing is wrong with that, but at least if we didn't sell our stash and wait for the bear market, accumulate, rinse and repeat them maybe as time goes by, we could be going up in the tier position.
Same here, even up to now, I still belong in the last tier because even if I had known bitcoin since 2016, I'm still learning about it and it took a while until I purchased a fraction of bitcoin. The year 2017 is quite unforgettable and somehow memorable because that was my first and biggest mistake as I sold most of my shares much earlier as I don't have that much fate at that time that it would literally skyrocket.

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But I would understand if everyone is not going to disclosed how much BTC they have.
Yup, there's no need to disclose that kind of information.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Fiatless on April 29, 2023, 04:54:54 PM
I don't know how other members will take this topic, but i don't think it is correct or safe to estimate to the general public how much BTC you have, that can make you a target of attack. Some people here even know each other in real life, now i can imagine someone claiming they have >1 BTC here and some members know who they are, it is unsafe and a $5 wrench attack can happen to you. I prefer to say i have 0 BTC. Don't make your BTC holdings public.
I understand your point, but Bitcoin holdings are pretty much public; you can easily find someone's Bitcoin address through their posts if they've shared it in the past or through your signature campaign if you're participating in one. On top of that, I find the photo quite inacurate; it consists of only a few scales that place the majority of us on the bottom scale.

If someone wants to spend his time tracing how much I own in my wallet, that's okay. But I will not by myself expose how many Bitcoin I am holding. Some of us from the same location know each other personally so posting your holdings is like telling them how much you are worth. And I don't also assume that everybody in this forum is saints. That's why I disagree with individuals that speak badly about mixers. They claim mixers are used by criminals, meanwhile, even a new Bitcoin investor like me needs it to promote my privacy. Meanwhile, I don't own much, but I am hoping to hold as much as I can afford. Case closed  ;).


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Bananington on April 29, 2023, 05:08:20 PM
can we make it interactive by giving our own standing point as at now.
There are many discussions that we can have concerning bitcoins, but discussing about the amount of bitcoins we have should not be a normal discussion to have. Our stance and the amount of bitcoins we have is different and should remain private. The conclusion of the matter is that most of us have bitcoins and are holding. The discussion should be about how to have and get more bitcoins, not how much bitcoins that we have, that information should remain private.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Agbe on April 29, 2023, 05:22:43 PM
Op not everyone that hold bitcoin are investors. Some of them are just there to save there fiat currency, mostly politicians. They are there to hide there national assets. And those ones are not even bother to check the signal strength but only when they want to make a transactions. As for the category, I might found myself on the last category or even below. My investment wallet has about 0.04986753.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Sayeds56 on April 29, 2023, 05:37:24 PM
There are certain things in life that one has to keep private but three among them are the most important. These three are your earnings, your next plan and of course your investment. We live in a society where we are surrounded by enemies who do not like seeing others to prosper. Revealing your earnings, plan and investment to public is unhealthy either online or offline. You might become a target for evil minded.

Those influencials elite that media is publishing their net worths have been a victim one way or another either having more enemies or criminal attacks on their companies.

I completely agree with your viewpoint that we should not publicly disclose our possessions, be it physical or digital assets, including their amounts and quantities. It is highly sensitive information, and should be confidential. Disclosing such important information can lead to unpleasant consequences for us and our families. We never know and impossible to predict, if somebody may use this information for his advantage.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: OgNasty on April 29, 2023, 05:43:59 PM

Images like this make it seem like we are still very early.  Imagine if Bitcoin does take over the world's reserve currency.  You could be in the top 2% of wealthy individuals in the world for a cost of around $50,000 today.  That to me seems pretty amazing.  Sure, it's a risk.  What if Bitcoin fails?  Not to mention $50,000 isn't exactly peanuts as it is now and owning that much BTC is already out of the question for most.  You have to ask yourself what if it succeeds though...  You could be there with front row seats to the biggest wealth transfer in the world, but decided to play it safe...  Buy Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Ultegra134 on April 29, 2023, 05:52:42 PM
I don't know how other members will take this topic, but i don't think it is correct or safe to estimate to the general public how much BTC you have, that can make you a target of attack. Some people here even know each other in real life, now i can imagine someone claiming they have >1 BTC here and some members know who they are, it is unsafe and a $5 wrench attack can happen to you. I prefer to say i have 0 BTC. Don't make your BTC holdings public.
I understand your point, but Bitcoin holdings are pretty much public; you can easily find someone's Bitcoin address through their posts if they've shared it in the past or through your signature campaign if you're participating in one. On top of that, I find the photo quite inacurate; it consists of only a few scales that place the majority of us on the bottom scale.

If someone wants to spend his time tracing how much I own in my wallet, that's okay. But I will not by myself expose how many Bitcoin I am holding. Some of us from the same location know each other personally so posting your holdings is like telling them how much you are worth. And I don't also assume that everybody in this forum is saints. That's why I disagree with individuals that speak badly about mixers. They claim mixers are used by criminals, meanwhile, even a new Bitcoin investor like me needs it to promote my privacy. Meanwhile, I don't own much, but I am hoping to hold as much as I can afford. Case closed  ;).
Understandable, as you wouldn't go around bragging about how much money you have; cryptocurrencies are no exception to this rule; you wouldn't boast about how much Bitcoin you're holding. This is something that should be applied in any case. Anyway, the scaling provided both by the OP and myself provides an extremely vague estimate of how much you're holding; I belong to the group from 0.10 BTC to 1 Bitcoin, so I'm holding anywhere from $3,000 to $30,000; the difference is huge. Unless you have an excessive amount, it's unlikely to be targeted.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: m2017 on April 29, 2023, 06:00:17 PM
I read the comments of other users in this thread and almost the vast majority tends to think that whatever the savings in bitcoin, it should not be disclosed, especially on a public forum. Despite even the funny status of whales, crabs and other marine life, it still allows you to get a rough picture of the BTC owner. People are being cautious, which is reasonable and understandable.

It makes me curious how many more pages will discuss the same thought? :)

It would be more correct to create an anonymous poll with the ability to choose the status of a shrimp - whale, which would allow us to roughly understand how many marine animals are on the bitcointalk. :) This could be funny, but certainly not true information, because nothing would oblige you to provide reliable data.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: southerngentuk on April 29, 2023, 06:18:31 PM
Surely no one here wants to publicize the amount of bitcoin they own. A forum, an article, or a sensitive question, so most want to keep their information private. Over the years, the number of members on the forum has increased, which is both good and bad. Because in this cyberspace, it is very difficult to control everything; nothing is safe, and you cannot know that you are subject to hacker attack just by the message you write.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: DiMarxist on April 29, 2023, 06:20:10 PM
I don't really sure that people will reveal or announce or open up what they hold, our holding in bitcoin remain secret. Because Some of us from the same location, we  know each other personally so posting your holdings is like telling them how much bitcoin you have is right. I prefer my holding to be invisible, is not good to expose what you invest or what you holding in bitcoins. As it used to be for me, you can not  find out the bitcoin holdings amount of anyone here in the forum, which is not good to hear and read because we are all anonymous here. Our stance and the amount of bitcoins we have is different and should remain private.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Furious 7 on April 29, 2023, 06:29:49 PM
Actually I feel quite uncomfortable telling the general public about the amount of assets I currently have because in this case I think it is like inviting other people who really want to do something that is not good for me, but in this case the classification is quite good although I don't really expect a classification like this :D Because in my opinion no matter how big or small it is clear that is something to be grateful for, especially in this case being in bitcoin is something that is indeed profitable regardless of the ranking and classification in the chart that you share.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: hannahB4 on April 29, 2023, 07:09:05 PM
Can we make it little more fun with this, i will like to hear from us the place we are standing at in holding bitcoin in comparing to those having much investment in bitcoin otherwise called whales and other institutions or individuals having little portion of their bitcoin they are holding, because at the end of it all, everyone is a holder as long as you've invested.

Here's the percentage of bitcoin holders and what you need to hold to be in each category belonging to bitcoin holders.

https://i.imgur.com/J0TVrg5.jpg
https://twitter.com/Vikingobitcoin9/status/1651922754554195969?t=1mFAzg2Hafpee2A2Adbkqw&s=19

In my own case, i still finds myself below the last category which means am holding lesser than 0.135btc as at now, can we make it interactive by giving our own standing point as at now.

I still fall under your team because mine is lower than the last one, though I'm working to own a level of percentage in the chart. So my stand is below the last chart nevertheless I'm proud of the level I have attained.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: serjent05 on April 29, 2023, 08:18:47 PM
I used to be on top 1% way back 2018, but due to family needs and some real-life investments, I sold all my BTC converting it to fiat currency, and invest the money to real estate property and some business establishments.  After selling my BTC, I never reaccumulate because the funds I acquire from those businesses is used to acquire NFTs like Axie Infinity and many more.  I regret investing on those NFTs because it only brings losses.  So now I am below the last category but I plan to re-accumulate when all my compromises were settled.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: qwertyup23 on April 29, 2023, 08:38:15 PM
I used to be on top 1% way back 2018, but due to family needs and some real-life investments, I sold all my BTC converting it to fiat currency, and invest the money to real estate property and some business establishments.  After selling my BTC, I never reaccumulate because the funds I acquire from those businesses is used to acquire NFTs like Axie Infinity and many more.  I regret investing on those NFTs because it only brings losses.  So now I am below the last category but I plan to re-accumulate when all my compromises were settled.

From all the BTCs I had received from participating in campaign signatures, I can say that I at least belong to the top 5% of the BTC HODLers. But due to the same situation that you have mentioned, majority of my BTCs have been liquidated and converted to our respective currencies.

Back in 2017 when I first joined this forum, I remember that 1 BTC = $4,000. It was a time where campaign signatures would pay 0.001/week and it was considered at least a relatively small amount back then. I just wished that I had foreseen this exact situation where its price skyrocketed in the market as I could have HODLed them for long-term advantage.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: teosanru on April 29, 2023, 08:56:37 PM
Can we make it little more fun with this, i will like to hear from us the place we are standing at in holding bitcoin in comparing to those having much investment in bitcoin otherwise called whales and other institutions or individuals having little portion of their bitcoin they are holding, because at the end of it all, everyone is a holder as long as you've invested.

Here's the percentage of bitcoin holders and what you need to hold to be in each category belonging to bitcoin holders.

https://i.imgur.com/J0TVrg5.jpg
https://twitter.com/Vikingobitcoin9/status/1651922754554195969?t=1mFAzg2Hafpee2A2Adbkqw&s=19

In my own case, i still finds myself below the last category which means am holding lesser than 0.135btc as at now, can we make it interactive by giving our own standing point as at now.
Really surprising to see that you don't have to hold that much BTC to be in the top 5% but yes I think this analysis is per address because per person analysis of such a thing is not possible. Per address i can expect that only 5% addresses have more btc than 0.135 BTC. I think per person this number might be 4x of the number i.e. per address. But yes it's so crazy to see the number of btc you need to have to be in top 0.1%, infact I also feel how many of this might be inactive addresses which might be Bitcoins that have been lost forever.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Silver005 on April 29, 2023, 09:11:24 PM
Well it's a nice question if one can boldly express his or her happiness and how far he or she have gone in Bitcoin and the experience he or she has acquired,but don't you think it's very risky, because many of us here knows each other physically and it is as good as someone showcasing his account balance in public, which may lead to attach or something of that nature,why not use that opportunity to reach us more and the experience you have gathered in Bitcoin and make others who are interested in learning Bitcoin or who have been looking for a way to understand the Bitcoin be of this benefits and it will pay you more in future because you have invested in human being by teaching him or her what she or he doesn't know before..

And also tell us the ideas you always use to gain and obtain more coins to your wallet, because exposing your balance here or showing how big you have acquire in Bitcoin will not do us any good rather it will in danger our lives because the world are evil, please I am not trying to condem your topic but I was just trying to point out the implications of exposing your wallet balance in the to know who is the highest on top..


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: The Cryptovator on April 29, 2023, 09:23:14 PM
As I currently engage in BTC trading, I find myself with on the last. I am not yet in a position to become a significant investor in the market. It remains uncertain if I will be able to expand my portfolio in the future, as I face challenges in increasing my Bitcoin holdings. Despite this, I am determined to continue striving towards becoming a long-term holder. While the amount I possess may be small, I take pride in being a mini Bitcoin holder.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Russlenat on April 29, 2023, 09:32:31 PM
I've seen it before, but most people like to keep their privacy about the amount of bitcoins they own, some of them also try to hide that they own bitcoins at all.

For me, I do not find myself in this category because I only hold a small amount of Bitcoin. I earn bitcoins through my work, but I have to cover my family's expenses, so I cannot hold a large amount.
For security, it’s still best to stay anonymous from your friends or even from family that you are hodling bitcoin, whether it’s big or small amount because once they know it, they will eventually think that you have lots of money because you own bitcoin. However, for me, I am currently hodling bitcoin but sometimes when fiat becomes out of budget, I can’t avoid myself from selling a portion of it so I can still provide what my family needs. After all, I am investing for my family, so for me selling is not a loss for me. So just like you, I don’t fit in any category since I am hodling only a very little amount, but I am also doing my best to gain more of it for a brighter future for my kids.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: salad daging on April 29, 2023, 10:27:22 PM
From all the BTCs I had received from participating in campaign signatures, I can say that I at least belong to the top 5% of the BTC HODLers. But due to the same situation that you have mentioned, majority of my BTCs have been liquidated and converted to our respective currencies.

Back in 2017 when I first joined this forum, I remember that 1 BTC = $4,000. It was a time where campaign signatures would pay 0.001/week and it was considered at least a relatively small amount back then. I just wished that I had foreseen this exact situation where its price skyrocketed in the market as I could have HODLed them for long-term advantage.
Actually, a signature campaign can be a backup to save more bitcoins as long as they earn but if it becomes a necessity then it is better to liquidate it in fiat because it will help you live a better life.

We feel that the bitcoin price in 2017 was high but it is no different from now when the bitcoin price is $29k then a few years later it will definitely skyrocket again and be bigger than now I believe that is because bitcoin will go through a cycle of becoming routine every year it will be better for HODL from now on and keep it up.

Some people may not be able to hold back because they clash with mediocre living needs, when they get a profit it will turn it into fiat for the needs that everyone needs.

I think I can stay HODL. If there is an urgent need to liquidate the BTC.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: BitDane on April 29, 2023, 10:33:18 PM
From all the BTCs I had received from participating in campaign signatures, I can say that I at least belong to the top 5% of the BTC HODLers. But due to the same situation that you have mentioned, majority of my BTCs have been liquidated and converted to our respective currencies.

Back in 2017 when I first joined this forum, I remember that 1 BTC = $4,000. It was a time where campaign signatures would pay 0.001/week and it was considered at least a relatively small amount back then. I just wished that I had foreseen this exact situation where its price skyrocketed in the market as I could have HODLed them for long-term advantage.
Actually, a signature campaign can be a backup to save more bitcoins as long as they earn but if it becomes a necessity then it is better to liquidate it in fiat because it will help you live a better life.

We feel that the bitcoin price in 2017 was high but it is no different from now when the bitcoin price is $29k then a few years later it will definitely skyrocket again and be bigger than now I believe that is because bitcoin will go through a cycle of becoming routine every year it will be better for HODL from now on and keep it up.

Some people may not be able to hold back because they clash with mediocre living needs, when they get a profit it will turn it into fiat for the needs that everyone needs.

I think I can stay HODL. If there is an urgent need to liquidate the BTC.

I agree signature campaign can help us accumulate Bitcoin and be among those top percentage if we are persistent and consistent enough to accumulate for the long term.  With job in RL and extra earning that pays in BTC, the said accumulation is not impossible to happen.

I am currently way below the listed group but I am hopeful that one day I can tell myself (obviously not public for security reason) that I have done a nice job accumulating and hodling Bitcoin and be a part at least the 50m Satoshi club.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: South Park on April 29, 2023, 11:07:32 PM
Really surprising to see that you don't have to hold that much BTC to be in the top 5% but yes I think this analysis is per address because per person analysis of such a thing is not possible. Per address i can expect that only 5% addresses have more btc than 0.135 BTC. I think per person this number might be 4x of the number i.e. per address. But yes it's so crazy to see the number of btc you need to have to be in top 0.1%, infact I also feel how many of this might be inactive addresses which might be Bitcoins that have been lost forever.
And as the years go by you will be surprised about how low the amount of bitcoin will be needed for someone to be above the average, since bitcoin will become more expensive and its adoption will keep growing, as a mental experiment if we assume all the estimated 8 billion people around the world adopted bitcoin now then each person should on average get only 2.6 mBTC, so anyone having more than that will be above the average, and obviously such an experiment assumes an equal distribution of bitcoin for everyone, something which will never happen, making the actual average much lower than that.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 29, 2023, 11:23:08 PM
Really surprising to see that you don't have to hold that much BTC to be in the top 5% but yes I think this analysis is per address because per person analysis of such a thing is not possible. Per address i can expect that only 5% addresses have more btc than 0.135 BTC. I think per person this number might be 4x of the number i.e. per address. But yes it's so crazy to see the number of btc you need to have to be in top 0.1%, infact I also feel how many of this might be inactive addresses which might be Bitcoins that have been lost forever.
And as the years go by you will be surprised about how low the amount of bitcoin will be needed for someone to be above the average, since bitcoin will become more expensive and its adoption will keep growing, as a mental experiment if we assume all the estimated 8 billion people around the world adopted bitcoin now then each person should on average get only 2.6 mBTC, so anyone having more than that will be above the average, and obviously such an experiment assumes an equal distribution of bitcoin for everyone, something which will never happen, making the actual average much lower than that.

the BTC wealth pyramid is indeed very subjective as it depends on the time period and the price in the market. but we can say, a lot of long timers at one point have reached the status of the last level having more than 0.135BTC. so just be happy that at one point in your life, you got a hold of such amount.  :P don't be too ambitious, for sure, you use that BTC to buy something or use for your bills. so no regrets. it helped you at one point in your life, that's what you call living.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: ilovealtcoins on April 29, 2023, 11:41:46 PM
I've seen it before, but most people like to keep their privacy about the amount of bitcoins they own, some of them also try to hide that they own bitcoins at all.

For me, I do not find myself in this category because I only hold a small amount of Bitcoin. I earn bitcoins through my work, but I have to cover my family's expenses, so I cannot hold a large amount.

I'm on this list, but I also want to keep it a secret and want to be private, I don't like showing off to others that I hold bitcoins. For me, letting people know about my wealth is taboo, not only with bitcoin but all other valuable assets. Showing off will sometimes become a habit, as well as endangering yourself or your loved ones.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: dezoel on April 29, 2023, 11:53:20 PM
Well, at least I am at 5%, that is good to learn. Didn't know I would require so little to be at the top like that, it means I am richer than 95% of the bitcoin world, but I feel like there are a lot of people who hold other coins so when you calculate it at bitcoin levels, then this might be right, but if someone makes crypto overall, it would be probably tons higher than this and I would be out of that because almost all of my money is in bitcoin today, gonna spread again soon but today it happens to be mostly in bitcoin alone.

This is why I feel like we should keep investing, because even something as little as 3k could make you be in the 5% of bitcoin world, and when the time comes, you will be a lot richer because everyone else will want more as well.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Josefjix on April 30, 2023, 03:46:47 AM
As I currently engage in BTC trading, I find myself with on the last. I am not yet in a position to become a significant investor in the market. It remains uncertain if I will be able to expand my portfolio in the future, as I face challenges in increasing my Bitcoin holdings. Despite this, I am determined to continue striving towards becoming a long-term holder. While the amount I possess may be small, I take pride in being a mini Bitcoin holder.
I've made considerable amounts of money with Bitcoin. Trading it has become an obligatory habit for me in the market; I cannot spend a day without monitoring bitcoin charts and applying my technical analysis towards it. I've grown to be self-sufficient in the space, currently holding Bitcoin in my portfolio and hoping for good chances of bullish on the chart, I'm constantly hesitant when it comes to selling my Bitcoin because I remember how I suffered before I could get a hold on the pieces I'm in possession of, it's never an easy thing to bagged pieces of bitcoin during the bear season.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: irhact on April 30, 2023, 04:30:06 AM
Can we make it little more fun with this, i will like to hear from us the place we are standing at in holding bitcoin in comparing to those having much investment in bitcoin otherwise called whales and other institutions or individuals having little portion of their bitcoin they are holding, because at the end of it all, everyone is a holder as long as you've invested.

At some point in history which is about 5 to 7 years ago I once had over 3.5 Bitcoin but at the moment I don't have anymore due to some circumstances that made me had to sell my coins but I'm planning on buying before year ends, I want to start with 1 Bitcoin then I'll keep accumulating as my daily contract job keeps on paying me. I'm not in a hurry because I know the market won't pump soon.

While we're all holders since we're holding some amount of Bitcoin in our wallets still we have to do better and try to join the few that has over 1 Bitcoin because soon the price might be so high that it'll now become very difficult to start trying to accumulate over 1 Bitcoin and hold for the bull market.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: wiss19 on April 30, 2023, 07:29:34 PM
Well, I can clearly say that I'm not fitting into any of these categories since I don't currently hold any Bitcoins because I usually sell and spend everything that I get every now and then, also, I agree with most of the users here who are saying that disclosing such information can actually be a threat for you since you could become a target for that.

One should keep such things private since that is exactly what cryptocurrencies are for so that you can have your wealth hidden from the general public or even the central authorities that usually know you have money if you keep it with them.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: darkv0rt3x on April 30, 2023, 07:39:59 PM
I couldn't care less where I stand in any chart! This is a marathon, not a sprint.
In the future, Bitcoin is supposed to be ALSO used, not only held! So, having tons of Bitcoin now means that you will also have to spend it in the future. And Bitcoin will move from hans to hands just like any other asset. So, I just keep stacking as much as I can afford, no matter if I get to Top 1, Top 2 or Top 100.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Victorik on April 30, 2023, 07:50:03 PM
For now, I don't even think I belong to any category on your chart. Maybe, they will have to create a separate chart for me, lol.
Anyways, maybe in the nearest future I will be among the top holder, but for now, let's just say I am still not there yet.


Title: Re: Where is your stand as a Bitcoin holder.
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on May 03, 2023, 04:59:22 PM
In my opinion, as far as investing in Bitcoin is concerned, if you look at the rate of return in Bitcoin, it is extremely low compared to the rest of the cryptocurrency market because investing in Bitcoin requires a large sum of money.

I am holding less than 1k$ andy profit ia very low with the increase of btc price. It's not just holding bitcoins that matters but the amount also concerned matters because you will have some number of bitcoins only then you will be able to earn good profit from it in future.Just buying or holding a portion of a bitcoin and expecting a good profit in the future may not be a good decision in my opinion.