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Title: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: sokani on May 01, 2023, 08:03:13 PM
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An Ohio man was sentenced today to four years and three months in prison for stealing over 712 bitcoin that were the proceeds of the darknet bitcoin mixer Helix and subject to forfeiture in a then-pending criminal case.

According to court documents, Gary James Harmon, 31, of Cleveland, perpetrated a scheme to steal cryptocurrency that was the subject of pending criminal forfeiture proceedings in the case of Larry Dean Harmon, Gary Harmon’s brother. In February 2020, Larry Harmon was arrested for his operation of Helix, a darknet-based cryptocurrency money laundering service, known as a “mixer” or “tumbler.” Helix laundered over 350,000 bitcoin – valued at over $300 million at the time of the transactions – on behalf of customers, with the largest volume coming from darknet markets. Law enforcement seized various assets, including a cryptocurrency storage device containing Larry Harmon’s illegal proceeds generated through the operation of Helix, which were subject to forfeiture in the criminal case. However, law enforcement was initially unable to recover bitcoin stored on the device due to the device’s additional security features.

Knowing that the government was seeking to recover the bitcoin stored on the seized device for forfeiture in Larry Harmon’s criminal case, Gary Harmon used his brother’s credentials to recreate the bitcoin wallets stored on the device and covertly transfer more than 712 bitcoin, valued at approximately $4.8 million at the time, to his own wallets – stealing those funds and obstructing the pending criminal forfeiture proceeding. Gary Harmon further laundered the proceeds through two online bitcoin mixer services before using the laundered bitcoins to finance large purchases and other expenditures.

Gary Harmon agreed to the forfeiture of cryptocurrencies and other properties derived from the fraudulently taken proceeds, including more than 647.41 Bitcoin (BTC), 2.14 Ethereum (ETH), and 17,404,400.64 Dogecoin (DOGE). Due to the increase in market prices, the total value of these forfeitable properties exceeds $20 million.
Source 1 (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/man-sentenced-stealing-over-712-bitcoin-subject-forfeiture)
Source 2 (https://coinmarketcap.com/community/articles/644bb75ec1d7e422b683e4ef/)
This is the latest sentencing of a Bitcoin thief coming from the US. After he successfully recreated the wallet containing his brother's Bitcoin proceeds from Helix and laundered it through two online mixers service, I believe he wouldn't have been caught If not for his lifestyle and expensive property purchases that attracted the attention of government agencies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Upgrade00 on May 01, 2023, 08:37:45 PM
A dollar thief is just as ridiculous a phrase as Bitcoin thief is. Articles and blogs make these loose associations to make their topic title catchy and maybe attract a bit of the cryptocurrency audience.

If could also be a ploy by the government to associate Bitcoin as much as possible to scams which should dissuade people from using it if they were considering it. Whichever it is, we should not promote their low impact financial policies targeted against bitcoin and their role in finance freedom.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: DaveF on May 01, 2023, 09:22:37 PM
If you are going to do something like this you really can't go out and start spending all that money and showing off.
Go out to nicer restaurants, fine. Drop $25000 in a club, not fine.
Get the fully loaded Honda Accord instead of a low end one, fine. Get a 7 series BMW, not fine.
Take a vacation and fly business class instead of coach and stay in a slightly nicer hotel fine. Charter a jet and rent a private villa for 3 weeks, not fine.

And so on.

It's not like he was not being watched because of his brother.

You can't fix stupid....

-Dave


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Zaguru12 on May 01, 2023, 09:26:06 PM
First of all your topic tittle and that of a media outlet seems the same both seems more like clickbait because the phrase “bitcoin thief” is wrong because there are two other cryptocurrencies you mentioned in the article but the tittle only portrays bitcoin.

The other thing is how the scammer gets his on hands on the bitcoin if at all it was save on cold storage it might be hard but just like they warn on the forum. The criminal should be prosecuted but clearly putting up bitcoin and mixers up there only creates FUD and that is what the government and this news outlets wants


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: sokani on May 01, 2023, 09:49:31 PM
First of all your topic tittle and that of a media outlet seems the same both seems more like clickbait because the phrase “bitcoin thief” is wrong because there are two other cryptocurrencies you mentioned in the article but the tittle only portrays bitcoin.
Kind of seems that way to me since other cryptocurrencies were also found in the hardware. The fact that the Bitcoin constitutes highest amount of his brother's proceeds is not enough reason for him to be tag a Bitcoin thief.

The other thing is how the scammer gets his on hands on the bitcoin if at all it was save on cold storage it might be hard but just like they warn on the forum.
IRS had the hardware wallet in their possession but they couldn't access the cryptocurrencies because of some security features. I think he used a software to recreate the wallet and transferred the assets to his own personal wallet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: sunsilk on May 01, 2023, 09:49:45 PM
That's how you get all the eyes on you if you live lavishly suddenly and people will actually notice it with how you're spending that money.

While there's always the main catch from these articles highlighting only bitcoin but they should have used "crypto" instead of just bitcoin. Anyway, this is where it's all happening that people sees the bad side of bitcoin or crypto is due to these reports.

However, it's not just on these situations that do happen but even with fiat when there goes the thieves being arrested but don't get much attention as it's like a typical day for them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: ChiBitCTy on May 01, 2023, 10:13:39 PM
I am glad to see this, as bitcoin related crimes have been a bit hard to prosecute.  This is something that we are dealing with quite a bit in the collectibles section.  We've had quite a few "rug pulls" where coin/wallet makers have ended up keeping private keys for these fancy paper wallets that we collect, and trying to go after them has been quite the task.  Hopefully more and more arrest like this will help set the framework for legal litigation moving forward.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: coupable on May 01, 2023, 10:14:43 PM
The difference between the number of stolen bitcoins and the bitcoins confiscated is 65 bitcoins. I mean, Mr. Harmon exploited 65 bitcoins, which covers much more than the assets and properties that were confiscated with bitcoins. I can't believe that after 4 years he will spend in prison, he will come out to find himself penniless.
Although Harmon agreed to confiscate all the assets he acquired fraudulently, the 4 years in prison as a sentence seems very light compared to the amount that was stolen. I do not know if this is considered a procedural defect or if it is a preliminary ruling pending further investigations. Or maybe it is because of the absence of legislation that exposes thefts in the crypto space.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: mejarm on May 01, 2023, 10:50:09 PM
The term "dollar thief" is equally absurd as "bitcoin thief." These arbitrary connections are made by articles and blogs to make their topic titles appealing and perhaps draw in some bitcoin audience members. It may also be a government ruse to link Bitcoin as much as possible to fraud in an effort to discourage potential users from adopting it. Regardless, we shouldn't support their low-impact financial policies that target bitcoin and its role in promoting financial freedom.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Zlantann on May 01, 2023, 10:54:19 PM
This is the latest sentencing of a Bitcoin thief coming from the US. After he successfully recreated the wallet containing his brother's Bitcoin proceeds from Helix and laundered it through two online mixers service, I believe he wouldn't have been caught If not for his lifestyle and expensive property purchases that attracted the attention of government agencies.

Every criminal deserves punishment, therefore Gary James Harmon deserves the sentence. But the stealing shows how backward the government is in the aspect of crypto security. They didn't protect the ceased crypto funds which was why the Harmon brother could access the funds. The young man decided to nail his coffin when he went on an uncontrollable spending spree which attracted law enforcement agencies. When people are held responsible for the crime they commit it discourages others from engaging in such crimes and it also helps to reduce the pains the victims of such crimes go through. Hopefully, people that are victims of FTX criminal activities will get justice when those responsible for the fraud will be sent to prison.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: sheenshane on May 01, 2023, 11:19:17 PM
I am glad to see this, as bitcoin related crimes have been a bit hard to prosecute.  This is something that we are dealing with quite a bit in the collectibles section.  We've had quite a few "rug pulls" where coin/wallet makers have ended up keeping private keys for these fancy paper wallets that we collect, and trying to go after them has been quite the task.  Hopefully more and more arrest like this will help set the framework for legal litigation moving forward.
I hope so IMO.
It's a reminder that even in the relatively unregulated world of crypto, theft is still a serious crime that can have severe consequences.
While the decentralized nature of Bitcoin may make it more difficult to track down and prosecute criminals because of abusing mixing services, law enforcement agencies are increasingly taking action to protect who is the victim of thieves and hold those who engage in illegal activities accountable.

Hopefully, this sentencing sends a message to would-be thieves that cryptocurrency theft isn't a victimless crime and that the risks outweigh the potential rewards.  But four years imprisonment seems not enough for me, the money should return to the owner too.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: acroman08 on May 01, 2023, 11:22:17 PM
this reminds me of James Zhong(a guy who stole $3.4B worth of Bitcoin), both of them alerted the government because of their stupidity they could have away with it(though I'm glad they got caught) if they had just been a bit smarter with their decisions. what I am surprised at is that James Zhong only got 1 year in prison for stealing $3.4B worth of Bitcoin and this guy got 4 years in prison for stealing $worth of crypto, but then again stealing the cryptocurrency was not his only crime.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Captain Corporate on May 01, 2023, 11:36:08 PM
It doesn't really feel like a "stealing" scenario though? I mean it was one guys money that government wanted to take, and his brother took it instead, I am not sure if that is considered stealing. Sure the law would say if the government wants it, then government gets it, that's understandable but stealing makes it sound like he go out and stole money from someone, its more like obstruction of justice maybe? That is a bit more like it, government tried to take it, and the brother prevented that, so its obstruction of justice, there is nobody stealing from anyone in this case so it should not be considered as stealing without a doubt. This is more like 200 hours community work type of deal more than jail time, after all he gave it all up too, so it shouldn't really be that weird.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: JoyMarsha on May 01, 2023, 11:45:34 PM
That's how you get all the eyes on you if you live lavishly suddenly and people will actually notice it with how you're spending that money.
Money does have kind of dumb impulses that make individuals feel like spending more than they intended to (to brag about), even when they didn't work hard for it or anticipate having a million dollars in their bank account. Only a small percentage of people on this planet have mastered the art of self-control when faced with financial opportunities they never imagined in their entire lives.

When presented with enormous sums of money, a big number of the human population display a lavish lifestyle. Many that found financial freedom will continue to brag needlessly without realizing that they are attracting spies to observe their source of money, which led them to spend extravagantly in the first place.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: CryptSafe on May 01, 2023, 11:48:55 PM
This is the latest sentencing of a Bitcoin thief coming from the US. After he successfully recreated the wallet containing his brother's Bitcoin proceeds from Helix and laundered it through two online mixers service, I believe he wouldn't have been caught If not for his lifestyle and expensive property purchases that attracted the attention of government agencies.
The young man decided to nail his coffin when he went on an uncontrollable spending spree which attracted law enforcement agencies.
This is how they are caught. After stealing, they find it difficult to hide themselves more especially when  the amount of money stolen is big enough to sustain them and their family but unbeknownst to them that they succeeded in attracting the federal agencies to themselves as a result of their reckless spending spree. Similar scenario to Sam Bankman-Fried but his case was that of a coordinated act with his exchange and even worse than this scenario.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: rodskee on May 02, 2023, 12:06:25 AM
5 Million dollars worth of crypto but only facing 4 years of sentence? is this really enough for that huge amount he had taken ?
not sure if I am too exaggerated but I think this is a lifetime sentence because there are many thief there that will risk their 4 years for this amount to live a luxurious life before being caught or after the imprisonment .

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But it is good that we are seeing something in process to take those abusers of crypto in Jail , and with this there is a true justice in a market that they called anonymous and hard to  be bring to justice .


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: SamReomo on May 02, 2023, 02:35:57 AM
The lesson we can learn from the guy is never ever try to recover the money that your brother earned through a fraudulent activity. And even if you do so then don't spend the money like a king because your final destination will be waiting for you and that's the bars behind which you will be trapped. His own lavish style and spending habits made him the target of the agencies, if he was wise enough then he would never spend the money slowly over time. But still crime has an end and no matter how intelligent a criminal is his final destination is behind the bars.

I must say that calling the person a Bitcoin thief isn't justifiable because there were other cryptocurrencies like Ethereum and Doge present too. I think the government knows that creating such news is enough to attack the reputation of Bitcoin and create panic in the minds of the investors that it isn't safe and fraud people can do such bad things with it. Such clickbait title attract people because the word Bitcoin is used in it in a negative way.

The thing that's constantly moving in my mind is that why he transferred only 720 coins? what about the other coins that his brother stole? I mean it's clearly mentioned in the article that his brother successfully laundered 350,000 bitcoins. Were most of those bitcoins already seized by the agencies if yes then how could they left those 720 bitcoins?


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Lorence.xD on May 02, 2023, 03:01:29 AM
5 Million dollars worth of crypto but only facing 4 years of sentence? is this really enough for that huge amount he had taken ?
not sure if I am too exaggerated but I think this is a lifetime sentence because there are many thief there that will risk their 4 years for this amount to live a luxurious life before being caught or after the imprisonment .

_________________________________________

But it is good that we are seeing something in process to take those abusers of crypto in Jail , and with this there is a true justice in a market that they called anonymous and hard to  be bring to justice .

If I remember correctly there's also a case about a man who abused the glitch in the ATM where he became a millionaire. When he surrendered to the police station he only got a year in the prison. So for sure he hide some money before he went to prison but before that he'd spent a lot of money like in a private jet. This cases it's like make people want to be a criminal it's like the best way to be instant millionaire with just a sacrifice of few years. I don't how the justice system works rn.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: yhiaali3 on May 02, 2023, 03:17:16 AM
The thief is a thief, whether the stolen items are bitcoins or dollars, so his natural place should be prison because of stealing people's money.

As smart as this thief is in stealing cryptocurrencies, as stupid as he is in hiding the impact of the richness that afflicted him due to theft, he had to avoid lavish expenses or flee to another country and live the life of the rich, but his stupidity landed him in the hands of the police.

The government is also happy to spread this kind of story to scare people off of bitcoin.

I am surprised by these people who have this great experience in stealing people's money, why don't they use their skills in useful work from which they earn money in a legitimate way.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Poker Player on May 02, 2023, 03:48:44 AM
If you are going to do something like this you really can't go out and start spending all that money and showing off.
Go out to nicer restaurants, fine. Drop $25000 in a club, not fine.
Get the fully loaded Honda Accord instead of a low end one, fine. Get a 7 series BMW, not fine.
Take a vacation and fly business class instead of coach and stay in a slightly nicer hotel fine. Charter a jet and rent a private villa for 3 weeks, not fine.

And so on.

In the end, these types of criminals are driven by greed and money that burns in their pockets.

It's actually a human tendency, most humans find it hard to restrain themselves from spending it when you have a lot of money. The problem is when giving free rein to impulses can land you in jail, as in this case. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: bitterguy28 on May 02, 2023, 04:00:01 AM
this reminds me of James Zhong(a guy who stole $3.4B worth of Bitcoin), both of them alerted the government because of their stupidity they could have away with it(though I'm glad they got caught) if they had just been a bit smarter with their decisions. what I am surprised at is that James Zhong only got 1 year in prison for stealing $3.4B worth of Bitcoin and this guy got 4 years in prison for stealing $worth of crypto, but then again stealing the cryptocurrency was not his only crime.
it is alarming to everyone if there is a big changes in how they are living , the lifestyle itself brings them being caught , imagine those huge amount that you almost kept all your life if only knows how to handle correctly?


https://i.imgur.com/ZbivaHE.png

still nothing beats the biggest crypto theft of all time .


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: YUriy1991 on May 02, 2023, 05:27:31 AM
this reminds me of James Zhong(a guy who stole $3.4B worth of Bitcoin), both of them alerted the government because of their stupidity they could have away with it(though I'm glad they got caught) if they had just been a bit smarter with their decisions. what I am surprised at is that James Zhong only got 1 year in prison for stealing $3.4B worth of Bitcoin and this guy got 4 years in prison for stealing $worth of crypto, but then again stealing the cryptocurrency was not his only crime.

Exactly. I think that related to cryptocurrency crimes can have serious consequences, if there is illegal activity involving this currency it will be a concern for anyone including governments or other institutions. It is true that both individuals, James Zhong and the Ohio man were arrested for their actions and I think the extent of their crimes and the circumstances of their arrest may have differed.

Regarding the length of sentence, I think it is not only the value of the stolen cryptocurrency that determines the length of the sentence, but also factors such as the manner in which the crime was committed, the level of cooperation with the authorities, and the criminal history of the perpetrator. individual.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Ucy on May 02, 2023, 04:22:38 PM
I'm OK with mixers as long as they are accountable and responsible. There should be fair rules that govern all such services rather than letting them operate in anarchy or in state of lawlessness.

Wish they are bound by the rules of Bitcoin, which were created on purpose. Part of the reasons the Transparency rule for example was created is to help the community or other people monitor/track transactions of mostly anonymous users, but if you don't want yours to be tracked, make sure they are immutable just in case something happens that needs to be investigated.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: sunsilk on May 02, 2023, 11:03:56 PM
That's how you get all the eyes on you if you live lavishly suddenly and people will actually notice it with how you're spending that money.
Money does have kind of dumb impulses that make individuals feel like spending more than they intended to (to brag about), even when they didn't work hard for it or anticipate having a million dollars in their bank account. Only a small percentage of people on this planet have mastered the art of self-control when faced with financial opportunities they never imagined in their entire lives.

When presented with enormous sums of money, a big number of the human population display a lavish lifestyle. Many that found financial freedom will continue to brag needlessly without realizing that they are attracting spies to observe their source of money, which led them to spend extravagantly in the first place.

It gives the feeling that it should be spent as soon as possible if you didn't worked hard for it and it doesn't belong to you. That's why I still believe that karma strikes those that don't own it and swindlers that have no empathy for what they're doing with people's money.

In today's generation, bragging is like an attitude that everyone should have because of how influential the things they see on social media. But, it has also helped to catch this thief.

While this thief have spend lavishly and think that it won't be gone too soon, he deserves it but that sentence was quite short, what do you think?


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: glendall on May 02, 2023, 11:36:58 PM
you can say I'm happy in this arrest but it's very unfortunate why only 4 years in law, where 5 million $ is not small money, is it because they have money so they get a fairly light sentence compared to people who don't have money and just steal 1 neighbor's chicken ???


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: drwhobox on May 02, 2023, 11:59:23 PM
Why mention bitcoin so boldly in the news? It is very simple that adding bitcoin will attract many people to the news and get many people into thinking negatively about bitcoin or crypto-currency.

But the most shocking part for me is 4 years of jail. 5 million is no joke amount and only 4 years in prison is not that enough for that big crime.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: rodskee on May 24, 2023, 08:04:06 AM
5 Million dollars worth of crypto but only facing 4 years of sentence? is this really enough for that huge amount he had taken ?
not sure if I am too exaggerated but I think this is a lifetime sentence because there are many thief there that will risk their 4 years for this amount to live a luxurious life before being caught or after the imprisonment .

_________________________________________

But it is good that we are seeing something in process to take those abusers of crypto in Jail , and with this there is a true justice in a market that they called anonymous and hard to  be bring to justice .

If I remember correctly there's also a case about a man who abused the glitch in the ATM where he became a millionaire. When he surrendered to the police station he only got a year in the prison. So for sure he hide some money before he went to prison but before that he'd spent a lot of money like in a private jet. This cases it's like make people want to be a criminal it's like the best way to be instant millionaire with just a sacrifice of few years. I don't how the justice system works rn.
Yeah i also have read that case and having to serve a year in prison .


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Gallar on May 24, 2023, 08:51:15 AM
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Source 1 (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/man-sentenced-stealing-over-712-bitcoin-subject-forfeiture)
Source 2 (https://coinmarketcap.com/community/articles/644bb75ec1d7e422b683e4ef/)
This is the latest sentencing of a Bitcoin thief coming from the US. After he successfully recreated the wallet containing his brother's Bitcoin proceeds from Helix and laundered it through two online mixers service, I believe he wouldn't have been caught If not for his lifestyle and expensive property purchases that attracted the attention of government agencies.

With incidents like this in bitcoin, it is feared that it will create a feeling of fear for people who invest in bitcoin. Because the theft of crypto is not a small amount, with that amount it will definitely be very influential, in the world of crypto, especially bitcoin. By getting a four year prison sentence, is the sentence worth the crypto assets he stole. Even though I don't really understand the existing law regarding the article on theft of crypto assets in America, I think the punishment given to that person, I don't think is worth the assets he stole. Not that I'm too hard on people like that, but I don't want the crypto world, especially bitcoin, to destroy its reputation, because there are criminals like that.
So in essence, we as users of crypto, especially bitcoin, must continue to protect the assets we have, and never try to tarnish the image that bitcoin has built up to now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 24, 2023, 09:02:57 AM
Ohio, there are many memes exploring using this city lol :D

I'm OK with mixers as long as they are accountable and responsible. There should be fair rules that govern all such services rather than letting them operate in anarchy or in state of lawlessness.
If the mixer are working together with government, we can say that's mixer is just a honeypot and it could be a risk of everyone who use the mixer since the government can just target all the big bag holders despite there's no illegal or crime case.

you can say I'm happy in this arrest but it's very unfortunate why only 4 years in law, where 5 million $ is not small money, is it because they have money so they get a fairly light sentence compared to people who don't have money and just steal 1 neighbor's chicken ???
It depends on the laws, it's not only about how much money the thief steal it. If you think it's unfair for people who just steal a neighbor's chicken and someone steal $5 Million get a same punishment, you can't do anything if he don't break other laws which could make him longer in the jail.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: kryptqnick on May 24, 2023, 09:08:25 AM
Well, 4 years isn't a bit sentence, considering how much money he stole. But I think it's a sentence that takes into consideration that he didn't steal from innocent people, and nobody was hurt by his actions.
It's good that the money was retrieved by the authorities. I hope it will be put to good use. Normally, I hope the money is returned to victims, but considering that it was the revenue of a darknet mixer, and the owner was arrested earlier as well, there are no victims to return the money to. Does it go to the state/federal budget in this case? Or to the funding of the law enforcement? How does this work in such cases?


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Oasisman on May 24, 2023, 11:02:53 AM
Well, 4 years isn't a bit sentence, considering how much money he stole. But I think it's a sentence that takes into consideration that he didn't steal from innocent people, and nobody was hurt by his actions.
It's good that the money was retrieved by the authorities. I hope it will be put to good use. Normally, I hope the money is returned to victims, but considering that it was the revenue of a darknet mixer, and the owner was arrested earlier as well, there are no victims to return the money to. Does it go to the state/federal budget in this case? Or to the funding of the law enforcement? How does this work in such cases?

I think these proceeds will going to be added in the government budget generally.
The 4 year sentence isn't really that much and he's considered to be lucky to have that kind of imprisonment period. I mean that money was produced illegally and then stole it to put another crime on top of it. That's just insane. He could've gone to a different country. A 3rd world country would be the most preferable one as you could have these ridiculous amount of money sustainable for the remainder of his life.
However, this kind of news is somewhat an attack on Bitcoin to instill fear on the future investors.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: royalfestus on May 24, 2023, 11:16:20 AM
When witnessing such judgment, my only wish is that it remains free from bias both now and in the future. Sam Bankman-Fried of FTX, who accomplished much more, faced similar scrutiny but being handle with kid's glove. However, there are allegations that the government is attempting to conceal the truth due to his influential connections within the top government positions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: Synchronice on May 24, 2023, 11:45:15 AM
If you are going to do something like this you really can't go out and start spending all that money and showing off.
Go out to nicer restaurants, fine. Drop $25000 in a club, not fine.
Get the fully loaded Honda Accord instead of a low end one, fine. Get a 7 series BMW, not fine.
Take a vacation and fly business class instead of coach and stay in a slightly nicer hotel fine. Charter a jet and rent a private villa for 3 weeks, not fine.

And so on.

It's not like he was not being watched because of his brother.

You can't fix stupid....

-Dave
By the way, don't you find it hilarious that governments don't give a f about you unless you show luxury lifestyle to the public? If you somehow have a lot of money, that's a red flag but if you are poor and struggle, then that's fine, none government will come to you and ask for help but when you have money, they knock on your door and ask why and how do you have it. It is no less then a crime from government.


But for sure, life is unfair and some things can't be changed from outside. In this case, I agree with you, if you can't change something, you have to be smart, cool and adapt, keep distance, know your limits.


Title: Re: Bitcoin thief who stole $5M worth of crypto sentenced to 4 years in prison
Post by: siedemtrzy on May 24, 2023, 11:57:11 AM
4 years of life for more than $5M in the future sounds like a good deal, lol. I don't think I'll make that money in 10 years.