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Recently one of my friends told me about some gambing / gaming sites  or apps like Orion Stars, Milky Way, Fire Kirin, Gamevault, Riversweeps,   Ultra panda and few others. 
He told that these are very popular games but i told that i am not aware of these sites. I first thought that they could be gaming sites but later i find out they have gambling games and are in fact casino.

A few of the sites / App links are http://web.pandamaster.vip/game/pandamaster/ , http://web.orionstars.vip/play/orionstars/

Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.

I recently known these sites through some articles but I think they are a paid ones just to promote them. I haven't been able to play or check it, maybe you could try it for us in here and check if they're paying and if the games are way too cool. I think these are gaming sites and not gambling sites.

I'm still a stranger and have never heard of or seen the site you mentioned, friend.
What is clear is that I will never be interested and willing to try a gambling site that is not on a forum with a good reputation because it can put me at great risk.
During this time, I first encountered crypto casino sites in forums because previously I only played at street casinos and local casinos with fiat currency.
If you are curious and want to try a site that your friend told you, it's better to do some research first and get all the information, then use as little money as possible to do a trial there.

I myself saw some ads about these sites but never tired them. You need to first buy in their tokens or coins before you can actually play them.
I usually never deposit in a site until i am sure that the site has some trusted feedback.

However, they were advertised as gambling games, so I think these are gambling games where you can win real money (can't confirm if they really pay you or scam you)  ???

I think it's the same as a domino higss game in which it is very similar to the casino game that provides versus games, such as card games, billiards, chess and also provides slot games like King of Olympus which are similar to Gate Olympus from Pragmatic Play, Panda, 5Dragons and many more. who do in this by using coins that are bought from the marketplace to do gambling, and the coin can also be sold back to the game admin or to other players. More precisely this game is a merger between the game and gambling.

I don’t have any experience on the games that you mention but casino in a form of games are already popular in my country. They are using casino coins as currency and you can cash out it on our fiat in equivalent points. They are hiding the fact that they are casino through using a coins or points so that playstore and appstore won’t detect them as real gambling.

Slot games and table games are the games they offer but made by unknown provider.


Casino like this usually offer games form unknown provider which makes me uncomfortable because it’s very hard to win. Their table games is not probably fair so playing this games is really based on luck with a little bit of distrust on my side.


This is pure gambling imho because it involves money and the games is dedicated for gambling.

In the country I am also like a lot like it is quite widespread, I think it also coincides with the development of gambling directly using money but on average they are in the form of applications, this gambling service does use the coins they make themselves to be able to play it, so they can outwit that the application This is not gambling with alibi only games.

They do an imitation of games that are similar to slot games.

I also never play in it, for reasons that you say, it's too dangerous and a very small winning ratio.
Indirectly the game is an engineering gambling application.

first time hearing about them and looking at the links you shared I'm quite reluctant to try them out, I can't even see where to register.

this reminds me of "Tongits Go"(a popular gambling games app in my country) They basically use the same strategy too. they use coins as a currency for their games that you can buy using real money. you can use those coins to cash out money too.

Never heard of them.
I wish someone could enlighten us because I checked the recent replies of the members above me and all of them don't have any idea about it or have not tried it yet. I have this also in advertisements of blogs and articles but I never click them, I don't recommend that too because it might bring you somewhere that is dangerous.
If you really like to start playing gambling games then I would stick with the reputable ones, if it's slots or other known card games, they are available even on sports betting sites.

I'm not familiar with it but when I check it, just a regular gambling sites, it's a slot game that we all known of. It's just the question whether this sites can be trusted or not, because you have to create an account and deposit money and then play. But you have to check whether its provably fair or not, so that is the big question.

And to be honest, it seems that the website is not professionally made, I don't know, maybe it's just me.

So for those who are willing to take the risk, then it's up to you, just saying.

Those were new to my ears too, and even if they really are interesting, I think I wouldn’t take risk in such games where I can’t be assured if those sites are legit or not. I still rely mostly in gambling boards in the forum where legal gambling casinos are listed. Maybe if you can provide some screenshots of your winning results from those gaming sites, I can somehow consider myself taking risk on them. But for now, I’m more on playing on my favorite and reputable casinos online and offline.

I noticed there are no "s" in the http link but i don't know if it really matters though. But the absence of the "s" made me not to click on the link but i googled and found this https://pandamaster.com and this https://orionstarsonline.com. While both are fish games, Orion stars happens to be Sweepstakes and slots games. I discovered Orion is gaming and gambling while pandasmaster is more of gaming.

The only problem, you don't know the RTP.

It's the same the thins about our people in "Indonesia" they buying "CHIPS" for the game called "High Domino" while they don't know anything about RTP and other. But you want to know what ? they keep playing on there.

Feel bads for people who think are better playing in the gaming apps and they used it as gamble.

Well, that's not a hassle if they are encouraging their token to be able to play on their platform, the hassle is to find a liquid DEX to buy these tokens. That's the question, if they pay you for how long will it gonna take or they'll just be there for some time and if nothing uses them frequently anymore they'll just vanish out of thin air. I've seen lot of this kind.

If one just plays the game then no harm in that but as soon as money is involved then it becomes gambling.
So if money is involved on these sites then these are gambling sites. As simple as that.
But these sites are not secure since when I visited the site I got a prompt saying the site is not secure and it may leak our data.
So I wouldn't recommend visiting these sites.

I know and have seen my friends download the game applications you mentioned, such as Orion Stars, Ultra Monster and Fire Kirin. I see that the three applications are almost the same, they offer the same game, As far as I know it's a lottery based application as I quote below.


Although apps like Orion Stars are relatively new, the game is operational in 2021, but if you look at the Orion Stars data, thousands of people have downloaded the app.

As I quoted above, even though it's real, many of my friends play there and lots of bonuses can be bet, I'm not interested, because they only have fiat, don't have crypto.

I just found out about such a site and this is the first time I'm hearing about it. And it looks like it is a new casino site. If I look at the site, it's like a casino with a different look from the casinos we've used but I don't know what to do with the dashboard because I haven't decided to register yet.

Has anyone signed up and viewed the contents of their account? Are they purely using fiat or can they use crypto? If using fiat, I think I would avoid it because I prefer to use crypto for gambling.

First time I'm hearing of it. Kind of scared how the moment I looked it up, a bunch of sites offered its APK file version but seeing as a few others have said that their friends use it, I don't think it would go as a scam. I do reckon they just offer the same types of games though, simplified slots, dice, and stuff like that. I hardly doubt you can call them 'gaming sites', if you're definition was the same as mine (since I tend to separate clear-cut gambling games from "games" itself).

I did find how orion stars (and probably a few others) are sweepstake games though, so I don't think it can be considered gambling (afaik the US technically doesn't count sweepstakes as gambling since it's free entry).

I am not even sure how people find so many different titles to lose money to. I only tried Roulette, slots, and dice. Maybe I am a boomer however these are the best games to gamble on.
Other than that, I am not sure. In the end, the house always wins. Try sports betting with your luck :D

I'm just hearing this sites for the first time, so nothing I know nothing about it; whether it's good or bad I'm currently an ignoramus in this aspect.
But I'd advice that before you try out those sites mentioned in Op you should carry out thorough research so as not to fall into a trap or to evade any possibility of being caught in a scam.

I tried loading the Panda Master > Fire karin I had to stop when I saw "for use in USA only" I'm not sure if it will allow me to continue or not but I just didn't want to waste my time by checking it out. I'm 78% sure I won't use it even if I'm allowed to play and win there without any restrictions.

I don't know and have never played at a casino, now I often see casinos on forums, of course with other casinos now I have a hard time recognizing them.
But after I checked gambling sites, this is indeed a combination of games and gambling combined with collecting points that can be exchanged, before that I also played in several available applications but I never made a deposit or exchanged these coins.

For me, pure gambling sites are specific and not combined with other games.

It looks like those sites that would suddenly disappear when gamblers or gamers starts complaining when they could not cash out their money. The people behind that platform will never pay then they launch a new one to start the scam all over again. Stay away. There is no need for shady games like that when you already have provably fair casinos.

Gaming and Gambling are not the same to me. Gambling involves playing games and staking your money to win more, but in gaming, there is no need for money to be involved. I have never heard of this website that your friend has mentioned to you, but regardless of your relationship with him I still advice that you be careful with this referral. There are two things to think about, your friend might be making the referral without any motive, but it still does not mean that the people behind the website do not have a motive. If you want to play on casino's, play on casino's that you know have earned their credibility even with forum members who are gamblers.

Hard to say unless proven. But for sure many of us would agree; gambling sites are better than gambling or gaming applications because we don't have proof of the app being in realtime. Apps are prone to be rigged or manipulate the result of the games because system would be hidden from the eyes of the players.
I do think that OP was just surprised that the gaming site referred by his/her friend is a gambling site and nothing more. It depends into him/her whether he would choose to still continue playing or not. Being legitimate or fraud is another thing I guess. It would be okay playing in that site if it is really a gaming site, if it won't require Op to do so. But since it turned out to be a gambling platform, then putting money into it won't be advisable especially if it does not have the reputation and credential to be legitimate in this industry.

Although I am already familiar with other gaming websites and am aware of how they operate, I have never heard of the stated sites. But when it comes to putting money at risk, I feel more at ease playing and betting on reputable gambling sites. I've already been defrauded and ghosted by a gaming site, so I think it's unsafe to entrust them with the funds I have. I believe I won't test out gaming websites again till I have identified reliable and reputable ones. We are powerless to prohibit gaming websites and applications from operating once they have stolen our money. This has frequently occurred, especially when a gaming website is being promoted and hyped.

Every game is a casino when you think about it. Especially MMORPG's. If you can trade your pixels with somebody in game, then you can sell them for USD too (not in game probably) And how do people get their items? They kill mobs, bosses etc and the players don't always what they wanted. Sometimes they kill stuff for nothing and that's the gambling element built in the game. I don't know the games you mentioned but It wouldn't surprise me if something similar was going on there. Another example is loot boxes.


That too is gambling.

Never heard of them.

Much better to direct your cousins to the casinos that you know than of those that you're not familiar with. They could be good as they are but then, I've seen those stories that ended up with a bad result for those casinos that are not common with the majority.

You know better than them because this could just be a shill to them and you'll never know the real intention of those that have directed them through these casinos.

I agree, why bother to deposit in an unfamiliar website when we have a lot of trusted site to play with, or maybe the OP just want to try a new one and maybe this site offers different promo and features that's why he is asking about it. But my main advice will be, just choose those who are familiar with so that you will not get worried that the site will run together with your assets

I played Kirin once and it's just a type of slots. The game is a bit more fast paced and you can auto roll, pretty much like the way you play dice, but with some visual effects on top. Nothing special really. I guess it's more addictive than dice because of the way you have to spin and stop the rolls yourself, when with dice or roulette you just spin, cannot stop it where you want, but this is just a way to make you feel like you're interacting with the game more. I wouldn't call it gaming, it's normal gambling, the same way buying keys to open counterstrike chests is gambling, not gaming.

I had never heard of the site before, and this was my first time visiting the site. If I look at it at a glance, it's like any other casino site, but I'm not sure because the pandamaster site requires registration first, so you know what's inside. And when I visit the domain name, it doesn't work. While the orionstars site looks more like a casino than a gaming site, moreover I saw St. Patrick's Gold in the game section. And when I visit the other page, it doesn't seem to work yet. It's better not to try to play on that site because we don't know how it will turn out.

Regardless if those games are gambling or not, what exactly is the reason that leads you to consider trying those games when in fact, I believed you are already aware that there are lots of reputable and popular gambling sites here in the forum?

Simply, if you want a pure gambling experience, then obviously, choose the well-known gambling sites here instead of trying those games that are not even well-heard of by the community. On the other hand, if you want a literal gaming site, then browse the other section that covers those games, maybe in the other forum, or if those games are crypto-related, might be on another section.

The bottom line is, you can check for yourself what kind of games are those. But again, "if your purpose is pure crypto-gambling", no need to consider searching those games you have mentioned as just by browsing the Gambling section, you won't find any trouble looking for a good crypto-gambling site.

I'm getting a prompt to download software coming from the two links you posted but I decline them because I'm not familiar with this software, if you can play with real money and you can redeem real money then we can consider this a gambling platform and mixture of gaming and gambling sites.
For me, there's no difference between the two because these gaming sites offer entertainment and a way to make money the same feature that you can see in a gambling casino, so there's no difference at all and it's all up to you which of the two you prefer to play
as long as you enjoy and only spend money that you can afford to lose.

If you’re into gaming then you can try this, and experience on your own if there’s a way to make money here. Probably OP just wanna make sure that the site is legit and asking for some review which I think is a good way before trying any project. Anyway, I haven’t try this one because I prefer a pure gambling games than to this one, don’t have much time for a game right now.

Well I basically  don't click on links outside of the forum  simply  because I don't want any issues after now and since it was your friend that showed this site to you, while not try them out and tell us about it, and by so doing,  we would be at a more better advantage to know better what you're tying to explain to us.
Nevertheless I don't think those games are gambling  games but rather they are simply just fun games that  would require you to play with some coin  and I just think is more of a play  to earn.

Found out that Gamingvault years ago where they were in a documentary where gamers are gambling. Surprisingly they are also using cryptocurrency. Gamers are now into it, they are bidding on Skins and gambling cryptocurrency as well.

Seem not a very different path for crypto adoption, just as we are gambling in sports and online casinos, they are just enjoying their games and buying game stuff.

In other conditions in my current country there are several such games and one of them is Domino Highs which is indeed quite famous in the place where I currently live.
They apply the game with some chips or coins as entertainment and of course it is only a small part to play for free and just a lure.
Of course with things like this, like marketing with them there are several games such as Domino, Poker and Slot that are very tempting and when many people play and lose they provide an offer by buying to play further.
Some of my friends play this game and indeed games like this are quite crowded in my area and there are even some sites that sell coins at various prices but of course this is a subtle form of deposit :D

I knew about this site sometime last year when I was introduced to it by a good pal. I played a couple of the games there and it was a good experience although I think they still need to work on the user experience interface and also the graphics. These are the two minor changes I would like to see, the game sound and the navigation.

I always avoid gambling gaming apps since most of them are unlicensed and at the same time has a huge possibility of forfeiting their players fund.


It is obvious that they are gaming sites that promotes gambling.  Take note, gambling is under gaming industry so you cannot separate gaming when we talk about gambling.  It is indeed a pure gaming site that take advantage of gambling industry but I would really be careful in dealing on this kind of gambling apps.  We have seen several cases where these kind of apps often become rouge and scam their users.

I wouldn't describe these sites as "gaming" because it's all gambling. What's the difference between gambling and gaming? You game for points or in game currency, or items, scores, but you gamble for money. In games you don't bet, you either win something or not, but you don't lose any money. All you can lose is scores, points, items in game.
What OP is describing as a mixture of gaming and gambling is just good old gambling.

I think the games which involve real money and where we can win the real money are gambling games. There are many games like PUBG type which allow you to play freely and you can buy weapons for money in the games. Those games won't win you any money and are non-gambling games.
The games which OP is referring to come in the category of gambling. There is no doubt about it.

Anyways its seems that these games are new for all of us as we only play and know sites which are popular on this forum.

Currently their marketing tricks are quite diverse and it is clear that for someone who is only focused on winning when there is more lure they will try to at least register and make a one-time deposit.

In some local sites in my country they even apply registration with a mobile number which lets them know the data and bank account that we have because most have to enter that too when registering and when we don't open a site like this but have registered with a previous cellphone number we don't rarely spam lots of messages that appear for us from several random numbers to invite to other local gambling sites.

Heard this before as well, looks like they are starting to adopt crypto as well as they are already accepting crypto.
Gamers will soon adopt crypto, for sure they can easily adopt as they are being forced to use crypto so they can get updated with the games. Gambling games might be different though, you just need to know how it works since a gaming sites can also be a gambling site especially if there's a way to lose and earn money or crypto.

The links you shared us looks unsafe, the security sucks so I will never try such websites out, I've never heard about these gambling apps and website before but they look like play to earn games in gambling form to me, you need the games token before you can start playing, this is different from gambling on casino platforms but at the end of the day, it's still a gambling because you losing something in return, time, items, points and etc.

I'm not familiar with gambling sites, but if you like to gamble, just make sure the sites you're playing with are legitimate. If you want to help your friends, point them to this forum, and they'll surely find a lot of legitimate gambling sites with minimal risk of scams.

I think a lot of these sites are targeting "gamblers" in the USA..where there are strict restrictions on gambling. It is fine if it is some kind of sweepstakes, but you not allowed to be rewarded with money.... so they use some kind of token that can be redeemed for either prizes or even something that can be sold for cash.

So, they look like "gaming" sites, but they are actually gambling sites with a reward system... that are not monetary. (Not cash or Fiat currencies)  :D :D :D

Orion Stars, Milky Way, Fire Kirin, I have never heard of these sites before and gambling sites do not seem to be reliable. They are usually agents to scam youtubers with their tempting offers many youtubers fall in love and promote it. By opening various facebook pages or public groups, various gambling and game advertisements are being promoted online with attractive offers through google play apps. Players become millionaires day by day also showing greed it is better for us to stay away from these websites.

It's always like this, we see people and most of them are newbies depositing into casinos that they're not familiar and even when they tell their story. The majority of the replies from other forum members says that we're all not familiar with the casino they've landed on.

Actually, it was a good situation that his cousin told him about this so that they'll be redirected and they can have a better chance in reputable casinos and even in the ones that he promotes or someone he used to stay with.

Just for the sake of having trouble whenever he gets a huge win, hopefully he does that to a much more reputable and known casino.

when I clicked on these links and saw the sites I confess that at the time I was wondering who is the brave one who puts his precious money on these strange sites? in my opinion they don't seem to me to be safe and reliable sites, people need to start paying attention to things, before creating an account on any site people need to start investigating everything about the site, you have to know how long the site is operating, who are the owners of the site, where is the site located, what is the license that the casino has and how long did you acquire that license, you have to look at how long the casino offers such a game and what is the opinion of people about it the casino

looking at these sites I didn't see any information about them, there's no TOS, there's no license, there's no FAQ, there's nothing and nothing relevant, so how the hell does anyone use this strange site that even when I tried to put pandamaster.vip to see if I could get some information about the TOS he directed me to google.com and obviously we are dealing with a very suspicious site, I suggest people don't put money on these sites and look for old and reliable sites, there's no point in using those sites knowing that there are many good, old and reliable sites, people should stop using weird stuff

I am trying to unterstand what you just said in terms of the proof of websites running in real-time or using provably fair software. Now for sport bets etc. an app is as good as a website as the outcome can be verified by checking the relevant sources, but when I run a slot game or some weird fishing game, I am not always able to verify whether everything is fair, can I? How do I even know on a website when I play a poker game that everything is fair? I could still be scammed by the website running five bots on a six player table. When you take the average gambling website and play slot games, is there a realistic possibility for players to verify whether or not the outcomes have not been manipulated? They might have a certificate or something, but even then you can't really know I would imagine.

Right, just what I thought.
I had never heard anything about these services and yet there seems to be people willing to risk their deposit on it.

Also, I am not sure what OP talks about when he says "gambling site" and compares it to gambling. I am not sure he means some brick and mortar casino in comparison to online ones or he means website based casinos versus APK or mobile casinos.

Anyways, most people just needs to stick to reliable services, if they want to play safe, in my opinion.  :P

I'm not familiar with these sites too and this is first time I heard about it. I checked the links that op mentioned but I didn't see anything that can attract me to play. I still prefer the gambling sites that can be seen here on the forum because it is also the recommended sites of many gamblers here.

That's true. Why risk your money on gambling sites that you're not familiar with? If there's plenty of options here and you can be certain that it is trusted and not a scam platform.

I have actually never heard of these gambling sites before. First heard through you. These sites may conduct their gambling activities as the gambling industry is no longer a small industry. A lot of gambling platforms can be added in gambling world. But the main point is what are the advantages of a gambler if gambling there? Which is a common question for any gambler. Because those who conduct gambling in our forum have definitely got the confidence of safe gambling which are not known in any other platform. Better if they tell you about those sites again you can share the sites and facilities in our forum. I think if they don't know about this they can join.

Well said mate and most times their offers are so tempting  that it seems very irresistible but though I haven't heard of any of the above mentioned names, I typically  don't think any of them is purely gambling  and since I don't know them, its not wise for me always speaking  ill of them but I will think they are more of a play to win games and even if they are gambling games, I wouldn't have to play  on any platform that doesn't have any thread or an ann thread on the platform  because their presence not just presence but an active presence on the forum is a green light  for me to gamble on them.
We just have to stay safe and not wanting to try every tempting offer by some anonymous platforms

The links are not unsafe. This is their one of the site https://orionstarsonline.com/ where you may find the link to download the app to your phone or computer or you can also find the web version to play without downloading.

Anyhow i was searching more about these sites on the Internet and was amazed to find this sort of traffic on these sites.

https://i.imgur.com/RhJrUhw.jpg

The traffic on this site is in Millions and 95% of the traffic is from the united states. Seems like only we are the ones who do not know about these sites while many people are playing at those sites  :o

First time I am hearing of these sites, can't give you much information about it. But if you have to pay to play the games and you can withdraw fiat money when winning then it sounds more like gambling than actually gaming. It comes down to what type of games they are, if they are based on randomness or skill. Any skill based games against the house and not other players could be exploited by professional players and lead to big losses for the company. That's why I would assume it's luck based games, which basically means it's very similar to slot machines, just with more player input.

Either it's games token, fiat money, cryptocurrency or something that has a value and you used it to something that has a chance to win some money or lose it, it's still gambling. I think those gaming sites are operated to the country where gambling is banned, so they're creating a game that's involved with gambling but they will say it's just a game, to make the regulation on the country accept it.

I don't recommend downloading the app to your phone or computer because many of us don't know the site. It's better if he is curious about the site, he can go directly to the site, deposit his money and play gambling there. But it seems that the site doesn't use crypto from the site traffic. I see the number of visitors are from the United States so I assume that the site uses fiat by depositing money through the bank. But that's my guess because I didn't register on the site.

And since we don't know anything about the site, it's better not to use it and keep playing at the casino site we already have. It will be safer for us and we can also use crypto to gamble as usual.

These websites are too strange to me and I will feel unsafe to send any deposit to such weird-looking websites, where are you guys getting your confidence? I will like to know, because OP you should not talk about these websites in the first place, how can you trust such websites? The links are not even protected, this is a big read flag because something malicious can be injected into your browser through is websites. If you are on a PC do not open those links.

Some gaming websites works in the same way as playing a roulette on a gambling website, but the difference is some games are skills-based, the better you are at playing the games the higher chance you have to make some money fast.

I voted for we'll reputable gambling platforms and projects, if you use one of the websites that OP dropped on here you are at your own risk, even if something goes wrong there is no way you can tackle the devs, they are unknown, the reason why this forum is reliable is because those projects can be embarked on here, if they care about their accomplishments they will solve your problems.

I enjoy how innovative gaming and earning websites are nowadays, but you should still exercise caution because some of them still have the potential to defraud you. Without first conducting study, you shouldn't question or even pay attention to your friends' advice because you won't know for sure whether or not to believe them. I enjoy how innovative gaming and earning websites are nowadays, but you should still exercise caution because some of them still have the potential to defraud you. Without first conducting study, you shouldn't question or even pay attention to your friends' advice because you won't know for sure whether or not to believe them.

I had the same impression. Both websites were flagged as unprotected by Brave browser, so I didn't feel I should go ahead in anyways. We never know what can get into our devices if we use unprotected websites deliberately. There are so many hacking, viruses and phishing attempts nowadays that we must be careful regards each and every link we open online.

I think OP should have added at least a warning on his post about this aspect of the links he shared, so everyone would be aware they aren't clicking a protected link beforehand.

It's the same thing here; when Op started the thread, I went to the site and tried it out with the free guest version (I'm not sure anyone would be stupid enough to throw their money away by putting it into that type of site), and I did notice some strange things about the site aside from the fact that it wasn't looking enticing enough.

IMO, I would advise that we all stick to the ones we know rather than jumping from one gambling site to another and later falling for a scam, I'm not sure because I didn't check if they are giving out any kind of offer because most of the time those offers tend to draw people's attention to their site.

Btw, has anyone heard or seen anybody that successfully withdrew from the site or if it's just a virtual money.

I  agree with you mate, deliberately entering an unprotected website is very risky, and I personally advice against it, it is even more dangerous for pc users, but this is not to say that mobile users are safe in any, I've a first hand experience, where someone posted a link with an interesting caption on Facebook, the caption captivated me. And I was interested to find out more about the content, so I clicked on the website to open it, chrome warned me that the website I was about visiting is unprotected, even hid the ignore and proceed button, I worked my way around and found the ignore warning and proceed button, opened the site, went through the content for like 2 minutes, I found out the content wasn't as interesting as I thought, I closed the website, visiting my app drawer, I discovered 5 different apps have downloaded and installed itself on my mobile phone, and looked like some more were still downloading in the background cus my phone was getting really hot.

Long story short, it later lead to me resetting my phone back to its factory settings, this was the only way to regain my phone back, because it happened that each time I turn on my data connection, I begin to see different apps being downloaded and installed on my phone and no way to stop it.

Yes especially new ones, but I am not saying that those new websites can only bring harm to us but the thing is as our technology is fast paced those scammers are well improve as well, we need to be vigilant and we need to make everything secured as well not because they offer good referral bonuses other kind of bonuses we will set aside the security features of that site.

Thankfully you didn't lose your mobile device or suffered any other negative impact due to this invader virus. Things get really concerning when money is stolen from digital wallets or personal documents are accessed and used by criminals at a global level for their schemes.

With so many legit, protected and trustful virtual casinos nowadays, I don't understand why people still look for shady, sketchy and dangerous platforms to play which can potentially harm the players in different ways, which don't include only the threats we mentioned above, but also the possibility of having a withdrawal denied or the provably fair feature being inexistent on those websites.

For me it is the first time I hear about them,also when I watch sports like soccer games or F1 races online in certain streaming websites they come out with all sort of ads that redirect to well known and not at all well known casinos.For me I use a golden rule which if anyone follows he will have never problems and that rule is,once you have found a stable and reputable casino offering a lot of games selection,almost instant withdrawals and deposits,ongoing bonuses daily,weekly and monthly I find absolutely no reason why some person should try other casinos at all,may be I am a bit of a fanatic but by following this rule I have never had any problems gambling and I do so from many years.

The links are already there. We can just visit it ourselves and have a better understanding or conclusion if what is it all about. So I check one of the links, I thought its a single slot game but im surprised there are other games inside it when I click on the "guest" button. It seems all games there are slot games due to their names and design. I even tried one and my suspicion is true.

This is my first time to hear about these sites. Maybe that is because I rarely visit social media sites nowadays? But before, I am aware that gambling ads are being posted on them. The advantage of them is their gameplay is new but I better research for the reviews about these sites just to be safe.

Yeah, I've heard about them and even tried a few but they are mainly available for some specific countries like the US and UK and I'm not sure about all other countries supported. They are casinos and have gambling games and no free-to-play games. You need to deposit money to play, and you can do that through agents, mostly.

What you basically do is find an agent, send the money to them and they will add credits to your game through your game ID. They mostly accept CashApp but some might accept other payment methods such as Venmo or even PayPal.

What earning sites are you talking about? Gambling is not about making money, it's about having fun that can bring a nice win as a bonus. If you can not win on a regular basis (the probability of winning is highly dependent on reasons beyond your control), then it is quite wrong to call it earning. Earning is when you do some work and get a reward for it. In general, play only at gambling sites that have a good reputation and for free money and then you will have no problems.

If we do tend to zoom out on how big this gambling industry is including crypto and fiat ones then it wont really be that shocking that lots of things we would definitely missed out. According into our awareness since we are focused here on crypto forum or on this place alone then we might really just be aware 10-20 names of casinos listed which you've been heard off but we know that there are companies which they havent been able to touched up this forum and on the time it would be introduced then it would be hearing out that it is really just new which its not really that our fault.

On the time that there would be some mentions on this forum and we are solely focused into this place then these names would really be that alien to us. Testing out wont really be that a bad idea and good thing that you do have the time on trying to look on whats inside which it is at least that good to see that there are people who are really that interested to find out if its a legit one.
In overall, im not really that interested when it comes to play on companies or platforms which arent known into this forum.It might really be that too much
isolated or one sided but at least im sure on my choices.

This forum is a great place, but still, many crypto lovers never heard about this place. With that said, there are a bunch of casinos/services out there... I mean outside this forum. By looking at some search lists I often see many casinos I never saw before, not one or two, but a lot of them. And I tried a few of them, I still remember "Orient Express"... I didn't read ToS before depositing, and the funny thing is that I won some money and when I wanted to withdraw that win I found out that withdrawals in crypto are not available, just Skrill, PayPal, and banks.

For the past two years, I play under BTCGosu, in all casinos, and I don't have any worries or troubles. A few issues I had got solved quickly with the help of Gosu, it's different when someone is in touch with owners and admins. And in the past months, I got a bit more strict, I register only on Gosu links. When Efi tests the casino and gives it a go I will follow.

Most likely. Saw the way they write their articles too. Too gratifying, maybe even putting these gambling sites into some sort of gambling pedestal as if to say they are the future big boys in the industry. That to me is a big red flag. If that still doesn't convince anyone that these sites could be 1xbit 2: electric boogaloo, then maybe a couple dollars locked on a scammy gambling site shouldn't be too bad. Redeeming some sort of in-house token, while not really a cause for concern, is also something these untrustworthy sites do to prevent people from getting into their prize money. I know it's a little too early to point fingers on anyone but the signs to me are there, and if you guys aren't willing to lose money in the process then I say take my advise and stick to sites with reputable backgrounds, or at least gambling sites that have some sort of working customer service.

This forum I can say is the hidden gem if a crypto user discovered it.
If you want a comprehensive detail about crypto casinos, you can head to their respective threads here.
Never played in a casino outside this forum. My confidence is on casinos here as you can get in touch with their rep and not only chatbot.
BTCGosu is also one reliable site for me. However, if you want more real discussions about the casino, just go to their thread and start from the very first page.
Some discussions will give you a hint how the rep is responding to any issue or potential issue, that will give you idea how they are resolving cases of their players.

I'm not sure, because I just found out about this application site. but this made me curious so i tried to open one link you shared. I looked at it carefully, then try to join. and yes, my guess was right. This app site is nothing more than an ordinary game, "Pandamaster". because the game is not much different from other application games, one example that is popular in my country is high domino.

Refers to the popular application games in my country, in which there are various kinds of games. yes, like a casino. it's just that, we have to buy chips to play it. well, referring to what you said in this thread. To be honest, I didn't dig deeper into this game. because it seems the concept is not as you say. but conversely, you can exchange coins for fiat but not from the application. that means, you trade chips from players to players or collectors of these game chips. by the way, this is just my assumption. because, what I said refers to the high domino game.

Gambling is under gaming as I stated so wether the site is gaming site that does not receive bet or gambling site that let player wager, it is still under the gaming industry. See the reference and explanation of wikidepdia



If it happen that the gambling site has the affiliate system then it could be an earning site for people who will take advantage of the affiliate system and get paid when they refer players to the platform.  Although I agree that gambling shouldn't be labeled as earning platform but rather it should be handle with care and just play for fun and not to make money because we canget disappointed with the result.

I have to agree with you on this one. Gambling sites that are not at least advertised nor mentioned in the forum is considered as a red flag for me due to its nature being risky in itself.

Imagine, gambling is already risky and if you are going to put money on an unknown gambling website, you are putting more risk on your returns and profits as a whole. That is why if you are looking for a gambling website to play, then look no further beyond this forum and the casinos that most have consistently advertised.

To answer your question OP, no- I do not have any personal experiences with the gambling sites you have mentioned. Maybe they are being promoted by third-parties around the globe for traction and advertisement but I would not trust them completely.

I tried searching for videos related to the sites that the OP mentioned as I got more curious since you can't test the games through the demo mode. After watching a few videos, their games are similar to the ones I always see in arcades, they're nothing like any of the casino games we see on crypto casinos. It's a good thing that most of the users that posted have no experience with these games because I saw the comments on some of the videos saying they're scammed and I agree with what ryzaadit said about these games having unknown RTP.

This is still called gambling. Because the game uses real money. Maybe the developer make this to hide and camouflage from restricting the government. I often found games like this on the play store, I even had to withdraw it once and then uninstalled it because when I look at it carefully, a game like this is full of traps, that possible if beginners try and deposit a lot of money, the application will crash and under maintenance with limitless time.

I have not tried playing in these sites so I can't share any experience about them, but I probably have heard or stumbled upon one or two of them, in an ad most probably. The impression is that they are basically a gaming site. But the gray area here is that you will be buying whatever coins their games use and do some staking or betting and win or loss them. But they are also convertible to real money. That's the gambling side of it. They're like offering chips or tokens. I wonder if these sites are licensed as gambling operators, but they are indeed offering gambling.

This is just a way to attract the beginners. Initially it serve as a gaming platform where users enjoy gaming and accumulating coins. Further the win out of the games will trigger them to get into real deposit and try winning. We used to see more such platforms where things happen in the similar way. Tokens will be allocated and can be withdrawn to fiat only after reaching a big volume of tokens. To achieve the specific number the gambler needs to spend lots of time same as accumulation of Satoshi in the past. Some even request deposit of fund to withdraw the winnings. For some time period they work legit and beyond certain level it gets to be scam.

We found a spine-chilling story. Who knew an undefended website could be so... terrifying? Mobile browsing is risky, joking apart. Malware and scams? Ready to assault.

How can we stop cybercriminals? Avoid dodgy links and ads with outlandish claims. Second, always have a backup - a second device or good antivirus software. Be safe. The catch? Detecting and avoiding cybercriminals. Keep an eye out and have fun online.

If we look at the site where slot games look familiar to us, that site is a casino site. And even though we can use free money or play using demo mode, we can be even more curious about how it will turn out if we use real money.

I also think that maybe in the future, the site will offer chips or tokens that can be used for gambling in addition to using fiat or main coins. But be careful if you want to try it and always stick to only using the money you can afford so, you won't regret it if something bad happens later.

Who knows maybe they'll do it. Actually, this kind of platforms although not that popular in some countries, there have been similar sites/platforms or versions of it, and some are even offering services like you can play with a minimum amount of deposit, or in short anyone can afford since it is very cheap to start playing. I have similar sites that my friends recommended me and I'm pretty sure it's not familiar with you guys, same mechanics applied as to what OP wanted to convey, this is also why I said it has pretty similar features although the difference is only how much base deposit needed.

There's also gambling games which are just free to play like the ones listed in the apple app store and play store. Gambling sites that we see in the forum as the ones who involved real money but you can also play them freely by switching to demo mode if you don't have a money to deposit. Games like PUBG is not what you call a gambling game but they are video games.

It's free to play but the game has in app purchase. The only way for you to make money in these type of games is when you join the pro scene. There's also apps which let you rent your account or you can just sell your whole account if you don't use it anymore. There are Metaverse/NFT games too which lets allows you to earn real money. Lastly, we can be able to bet on video games in E-Sports betting sites.

Yes, everything might happen later. The casino may need more promotion so more people will recognize it and use it as a gambling place. I had never seen the casino before, and it was quite different from the casinos I was familiar with. But indeed, even though there may be casinos that are similar to these casinos, there will be differences such as regulations, minimum deposit and withdrawal amounts, the currency used, and others.

But if we don't know the casino well, we shouldn't take the risk by still playing in that casino. But we can still try it if we are really curious about the contents of the casino.

Never heard of these sites and does they accept cryptocurrencies in any form of payment or deposit? If not then this thread should be moved to off topic.

Generally casinos operating under gaming licence to bypass the gambling restrictions on certain regions and let's take fantasy sports which is purely gambling but they call it as skill game and made governments to allow even when the gambling is banned or highly restricted in a country so this trick is known for bypassing restrictions.

So hide behind the game license, so that the game becomes disguised gambling. but some of these disguised gambling games usually use their own coins to be able to play them and players have to buy coins from several partners at a fairly cheap price. But somehow the policy on gambling is camouflaged with a game license. because some countries are so strict about gambling regulations.

I guess that these are crypto based casino's because they accepts coins to play at their site. But the problem with them is that you cannot buy anything money directly from the site. You need to contact the third party dealers who may give your coins / credit to play. Similarly when you won any games, you can redeem your coins are money but that again has to be done by the thrid party agents.

I wonder why they want third party agents to be in this game and why not people can directly deposit and withdraw money in the site ?

I think it is so, as far as I am Concerned, reviewers are people who are sometimes quite impartial, but other times not Because they are paid and this means that things can turn to the fore Regardless of how the casino is, always Everything about the casino must be taken into consideration, besides there is nothing better than the reputation that is built within the forum and it is for good points by the members of DT1, as has always been seen here in the forum, that guarantees that you will play Sure, they don't have bad times, they avoid a scam.

Gaming and gaming sites have the same behaviors; it is one to wager with high chances, which makes earnings easier. I preferred doing everything my abilities, with backup history transactions with the sites, without the need for a third party, which is exactly what squandering every minute of my day, no one would like to go through these stressful stages all in the name of gambling. I have my coins with me, and selling to a third party will reduce the value slightly; I prefer selling to an exchange before they have fixed amounts. I'm sure the casino has good grounds for enforcing the additional regulations on operations involving a third party.

I haven't used those sites you listed but I know of gaming sites that you can also use them for gambling. They're usually fun to use and it isn't any different from gambling. You get the same feeling when you use casinos to gamble, the games are usually limited that's one disadvantage.

They're a mixture of both gaming and gambling, you can use the sites just to play games if you love playing game and you can also decide to use the sites for gambling. They serve all purpose but if you're the type that enjoy gambling with majority of options then those sites aren't for you.

The coins aren't cryptocurency, they have their inbuilt system that offers coins that you can convert to fiats, when you hear coins on a gaming platform or gambling website, it doesn't necessary mean it's cryptocurency although we have those using cryptocurency as well.

But it seems that the presence of a third party might add to the casino's profits. Maybe there is a price difference that the casino will apply, but there must be a separate reason from the casino why they apply it. But coins are different from crypto, so we don't need to use them for gambling because there are still many other casinos, especially if we already have a casino where we often gamble. Besides that, we also don't know any third parties in the casino, so you should be careful if you want to use them for gambling.

It's actually a gambling but they just want to make it as gaming sites, gacha is legal even though the country ban gambling.

I don't like those kind gaming sites because there's no provably fair system and the reputation mostly not really high, so you have a chance playing rigged games.

The gaming coins you bought is expensive too because you need to pay the fee when you buy it and they will charge you fee if you want to convert it to your local fiat.

This is the first time I know such a game. Honestly I'm not interested playing on the site. I think it's too risk to play on unpopular sites. There are many gambling sites here, and they have a good reputation. I can't bet on a site that most people are not familiar with them

Maybe it's like a semi-gambling game, you can exchange coins for fiat money. I'm not interested in that model game. The chances of winning are few and such games don't have jackpots. I prefer to play on gambling sites, they have a lot of offers, one of which I like is the weekly bonus and cashback

If a casino provides as many games as they offer, of course they will need more teams to be able to present each game and this will cost more because that's why casinos use 3rd parties.
After all, by using parties 3rd services, casinos can get benefits without having to be burdened with higher costs, although there are indeed some genuine games from the casino itself.
We must always prioritize caution and of course at a trusted and reputable casino, must use 3rd party services that are more fair and reliable for every gambler.
It's just that always remember that it's not easy to win in every game that exists.

I can't say if it actually these particular games on the site op mentioned but at countless times I have noticed similar games advertised as ads on browsing sites I have visited and I am one person that's too careful about all these unfamiliar, unconventional game sites without reputation and popularity as it's better not to regret trying.
Why would I wanna play a game through some sites when I can easily and safely play such game's with a renowned online casino? After all both demands money to be able to play.

We all have our decisions and we make them according to the appropriate options good for us. Although most games are regarded rigged and fixed, gaming sites will only result in a high percentage of loss. My major point in all of this is to deal with odds that are favorable to our outcome, to be able to place wagers with simplicity, and to generate simple earnings when we win the prize in the lottery. Although the system regulations are disproportionate, what are we to do if we do not follow the terms and circumstances that have been triggered? Everything that involves a third party generates significant fees.

I didn't actually get your point, what do you mean by gaming sites that can also be used for gambling? We would obviously like to see an example, because I'm not understanding the context here, if there are games that we can play for free with coins provided by the website then it cannot be gambling, and if we need to buy coins and then play games with them and have the chance to win more coins from that, that is simply gambling.

I think what you are referring to is pretty much similar to what OP is talking about, it's just that the ones OP is talking about are in the application form and yours are websites, in those applications, there are different games that you can play with coins that you can purchase and win more coins that you can redeem for cash.

Trusted casinos prioritize satisfying services to their users and use 3rd parties to help provide that satisfaction. Casinos that can provide that will get bigger because the users will see that the casino is serious about running its business. But even so, scam casinos will also use 3rd party services so we have to be careful choosing the casino. 3rd party services have helped casinos develop their business; even casinos use gambling games from 3rd parties at certain events to attract more users. With genuine games in the casino and 3rd party services, it will work well and make the casino a big casino.

So what is the conclusion ? Are these the gaming site or the gambling site?

You can find some more information on their main page.  https://orionstarsonline.com/
Maybe then you will be able to understand more about it  ??? ???

By looking at the game's names plus the site banner, it is a no brainer that these games are in fact gambling games and not necessarily the Arcade or action games etc, I checked this site and try to make an account there too but could not find how to make an account or where to get the coins to play the games  ???

I guess, they have distributors who will give you the game login and the coins, and you cannot deposit directly into the sites. Also, when you need to spend money to play the game, the game depends upon luck, then it is gambling. That is how i see this.

I haven't heard of those sites before...
The ugly part of everything is how your friend just got registered on a site like that, without checking it reputation and policies too...
Most of these newly advertised sites are just tryna chase clouts... They know too well they'll immediately fold up assuming they're kept in a position to hold as much funds as possible on individual wallets..
Edit: These sites could sometimes make Thier gaming options easily manipulated ...in that your chances of having it cut is really low.

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As a cautious person, before previewing your attached links, I use a link checker to see if those links are safe. The result is that these sites are risk-free, but they lack more information, so it's up to the readers to check the site itself. Based on the mentioned sites or gambling sites, I'm not familiar with them, maybe because they are new websites or such. But I'm more focused on the application than the website. I like to do gambling online that has an application and can be downloaded to app stores, which will indicate that the site or casino is safe and trusted. Casino games are simply games that involve money, so they are the same as gaming sites. And gambling sites only have games that can be found in physical casinos, as the websites are dedicated to replicating the traditional casino for easy access and convenience for the gamblers.

Im not aware nor having the experience with those sites mentioned but obviously these are really that games but people wouldnt really be that a fan on going into those places
which arent that known or popular. Of course we would really be sticking into something which we know that we could trust on, or simply the community is really having that kind of
positive approach towards it. Most of gambling platforms now do have that kind of casino games + sports betting kind of feature or option on which a certain
gambler could really just simply choose up which among the two you would really be preferring on playing.

At this time gambling is very popular among the people, gambling is not limited by caste and age. So that everyone can enjoy gambling with various main reasons they play gambling.


Gambling has become very popular, so with this popularity there are many irresponsible parties who take advantage of this situation and plunge into the world of gambling as gambling site providers with the aim of reaping the maximum profit from some people who gamble, whether by cheating or other fraudulent acts. so in this case we are required to be more careful in choosing a gambling platform that we want to visit. The loss in gambling is like an invisible thing, but it is very close to what we think.

So, be some of the wise people in determining something, including in choosing the gambling site that we will visit.

What quite strange is that his friend said that some of these gaming sites were quite popular, but after I read the entire feedback in this thread many or almost all of them had never heard of or tried the sites mentioned.
I actually think that this site is local site in the country where he lives, but usually even though it is local site, most of the gamblers here should still be aware of it.

Yes, you are right that the worst thing is not to first confirm the trustworthiness and reputation of the site and he has told the OP about it and conveyed it in this forum, here is also one of the places to look for sources of information about the crypto gambling industry and we is none can find all the information from this site here.
Honestly, I don't really have the courage to make the decision to register on site like this which many people really don't know about because it allows for risks such as scams or cheating on customers.

I personally don't have any idea about this gambling/gaming site to be honest. But here in my country gambling trend here are those with online casinos. I am an agent of an online casino before and then I quit, though I earned few dollars through referrals but still ends up quitting. Based on your story, there is similarity between your topic and those sites I've been playing before. My friends made more or less $15,000 through commisions, giveaways and referrals.

I know fire kirin, they have their app available on play store but they work in a sweepstake manner and I guess you can only use their in-game coin to play and win, I guess they do this to escape the casino title like others which will make play store reject their app on their platform.

But to someone like me I believe this is still gambling casino, there are many crypto projects that are using this style today, they don't allow Fiat deposits and any other means of payment than their own token for gambling on their platform, especially if they have an app available.

Firekirin is not popular, I don't know what makes your friend think it's popular, maybe in his own haven or locality? But to the whole world only very few people knows about it, I also knew about this when I was a fan of freebitco some years back, they accept display of ads on the platform and that's where I know about it, it's been a long time now and not much people know fire kirin, it seems less successful to me.

yes, that's right, with increasingly advanced technological developments of course everything will be completely online or sophisticated, including gambling, now many people are gambling online, some are making their gambling private, some are even gambling and broadcasting live on the internet, so many people are watching. That's because online gambling is currently popular with lots of games that attract people to gamble.

However, there are also those who make this a fraudulent game, as I have felt myself, I once gambled and won  on a site that I initially saw on the internet and I tried it, it was quite difficult to get the win, but when I won big and I made a withdrawal there was no balance. I let it go into my account for a long time and when I went to open my account on the site it turned out that the site had deactivated or blocked my account, so I couldn't take the winnings I got.
So it's true that all gamblers have to be smart and wise in choosing sites that definitely pay out if they win, unlike the site I chose, which didn't pay out for the winnings I already got.

   -   The website platforms you have provided are not secure websites; in short, when you use this platform, your mobile device, gadgets, laptop, and desktop will be at risk, either from hackers or malware.

If so, those who try it need to be more careful, but as much as possible, avoid using it. It is better and better to try it at casinos that have been in the crypto gambling business for a long time in this field, like BC Games, duelbit at stakescom.

I also never heard of this online casino, and upon checking their social media account, especially the pandamaster, only a few thousand likes and most probably all bots/dummy accounts. No interaction with the community, not active with the event/promotions. Tried to find any reviews and there are only a few people talking about it, and one of the concerns is the unresponsive support. I guess, it's not a good gambling casino if it's one of the issues.

At least find out and ask in this forum, there is a lot of information on sites that have good reputations in this forum, of course people will recommend the best and most trusted places for us to play because out there we don't necessarily get accurate information based on fake reviews that can be done by the casino, but this forum is based on the experiences of real people where there are no fake reviews as long as they are from users who have high rankings in the forum.

I also always look for new casinos on this forum because it is safer for anyone who asks, you can directly see positive feedback from friends on the forum who may have tried playing on one of the recommended casino sites, of course with the reputation of their account too. It's impossible to cheat anyone, that's why it's important to ask what the best gambling sites are on this forum rather than asking out there.

You're right! This forum helps a lot when it comes to looking for suggestions and recommendations also a lot of experts will extend their help just to make sure that all new comers in gambling will not going to experience any scam activities.Informations from the experts and pioneers here is one of a trusted for me than asking someone outside this forum .

Before gambling or placing a bet we need to make sure that we are on the right site that is conducting our bets and gambling. If we gamble or bet on the wrong site, even if we make money, that profit will not be of any use to us. I know of several popular gaming or gambling sites but this is the first time I have heard of the gaming or gambling sites you mentioned. I would never take a risk like gambling without a known site. I will gamble on the site that I feel is the safest. A gambler needs to select a good site before he can make a profit by gambling. If we can select a good site for gambling or betting then we can safely conduct our activities on that site.

I'd never heard of these sites so I didn't bother checking them out. But from the name alone I already knew that it was a gambling platform, because they used the .vip domain which is usually used by gambling platforms. Well, if you are not sure about the platform, just ignore what your friend says, or if he insists you can say that it is a pure gambling platform and you cannot gamble.

Bitcointalk is a scam detective, in my opinion. Whenever there is a question of trust and integrity, bitcointalk is always on my mind. As we all know, many crypto sites, gambling sites, and betting sites have promoted their businesses on BitcoinTalk. Users are able to give a transparent review of a platform. Users also expose bad platforms. The point is, it's giving us a great insight into which platform we should play on and which we should avoid. If any of these platforms play unfairly, they are destined to doom for sure.

Gambling has changed online with private rooms and live-streamed activities. It's awesome yet dangerous, a digital masterpiece. This evolution is varied yet hides risks. These games are irresistible due to their convenience and the excitement of winning from anywhere.

However, your incident shows the darker side of this virtual wonderland. Trust violations in online gambling systems are serious. Learning about dangers is painful. Here, the pseudo-problem is whether one can trust the platform, not merely winning or losing. Unscrupulous people can hide behind technology.

Your story is a warning to all gamblers. Site selection requires caution and vigilance. Legalities, platform history, and user reviews are crucial. Don't believe everything you see in this digital gold rush. Your sad experience teaches online gambling.

If it's a locale site, then only those users who live on that same country are the ones who will be aware of it but if many posters here have said that they are not aware with it, then maybe they lived else where, because Bitcointalk caters a lot of users around the globe and then we also have a board specifically created for each country to have a local discussion and most users of those countries are only hanging out there because they can write using their own language. ( You know, that will be easy for them to communicate).

And just because we are not aware of the site, does it mean it's already a shady or a scam? Of course not, but they can still/also be legit. Just look further or outside the forum to find a reliable feedback, or just try it on your own using only the money which you can easily afford to lose. Good luck!

I have never come across any of these sites mentioned above before so I can't really tell how they operate but I know there are some gaming sites who do have gambling part of these sites and are mostly played by those who play Games on the SE sites because they understand these sites best.

But I usually advise if you must gamble stay put to what is regular and known by you, most probably sites that you know very well as they give you some percentage of surety due to their reputation and since they are just casinos not combining other things I think they will have lesser hitches and lesser stress with playing gambling and issues with KYC , some of these gaming sites my have problems with KYC which may affect you in the long term.

I don't think there is a complete list of all crypto casinos that currently exist and operate around the world. For all these years in crypto, I have tried many crypto casinos, but new ones appear non-stop, and there are even more of them who have never visited this forum. With that said, we can say that this forum hosts a small percentage of crypto casinos, but at least we have their representatives and they can help with some issues on the site.

I can only repeat/quote one reputable forum member... the crypto gambling space is a wild west! Even some licenses don't mean much if the casino plans to scam players in some way. But here and with some affiliate sites we have at least some kind of protection.

Yes, there are indeed a lot of crypto based casino that we are not aware of, because they are not here in the biggest community. Not sure why though, but lately some of the biggest have at least a signature campaigns in the last 2-3 years here exposing themselves to members. Who knows, maybe we will see a lot of new casino or even old one to go here and put a promotion.


And most likely it is because of the money involved here. It's a billion dollar industry just like the traditional or land base casinos casino. But obviously we know what is the big difference. Regardless though there could be gamblers just like to play online and with their crypto without looking at the licenses and what not.

The some of the mentioned gambling was made on your friend opinion,but being the gambler I don’t prepare the others opinion in the gambling.Because the background verification was the important one in the gambling,the gambler should consider it as the priority and find their own way for the verification of the gambling site.If you had use the gambling site without the verification,it’s like searching the money in the dark place.This will not allow you to win in the gambling.The most of the gambling sites help you to withdrew with the same cryptocurrency and easy to convert to fiat using the crypto exchanges.

There is many kind of gambling platforms. Where are different types of game in gambling. My journey of gambling started on a match prediction in 1xbet. I watch cricket matches from my childhood. I have a quiet little bit experience in cricket and after watching match movement I can predict not accurately but I can predict a match what is going to happen next. that's the reason I started gambling on match prediction. I don't only credit in cricket match I also predict in football matches.

At the beginning of gambling I started from 1X bit. But because of some reason I lift this application and I started in Melbet. From then to now I predicted matches in this application.

All also have their own risks, not only about offline (physical) or online gambling. Yes, because of the current boom in online gambling, there are many sites that provide online gambling and I have only once found a serious that does not pay the player's winnings, this is very annoying when I am in a situation like this. I'm not sure what I should do, but the capital is actually not that much but the big winnings are what makes me annoyed so there is nothing at all that I can take from the winnings.
But there are many people today who when they see online gambling advertisements on the internet, they are easily attracted so they quickly try the site. No one knows what kind of sites do not pay. So as much as possible must be careful in choosing a site. So that nothing happens that you don't want.

1xbit doesn't have a good history especially on this forum and that's why that's like a good riddance when you have left them for another one.

But it seems that the new one that you're in is also unknown to me so basically, for everyone that are into new casinos. Always make sure that you verify, DYOR as always before depositing money.

We've got a bunch of more worthy and reputed casinos that are established in the forum and all you need to do is take time in choosing one.

I heard of these site first time, and tried to visit them but they are very slow to load, and the website didn't have https on their site.
websites are laggy and games take too much time to load which will ruin our gambling experience. why choose this site when we already have more good options?
I don't know they accepts crypto or not. and they are not licensed either.

I did not know those listed games and didn't play but if those games related to a wage of real money or another asset that is convertible into fiat currency is considered gambling because gambling is a game that most people want to take risks with their wage and wanting to have a return, its a two way of transaction of deposit and withdrawal, still its consider because there's a player winner and a gambling house casino. I will not rather to take a risk than a reliable casino we have here.

Yes... I believe that, because those who already have a high level account are very protective of their reputation, so they always try to provide precise and accurate information. But do I have to believe that just because someone has a good reputation and has reached a high level. I don't think so, however as a form of my caution I must try to dig for further information and validate that the information I get is really reliable, really safe and avoids elements of attempted fraud.
I believe that, but in order to be a smart and wise person, we must make it a habit not to be satisfied with one opinion and one piece of information, but to keep trying to dig up the information and if necessary dig it up to its roots, so that we can accurately find and confirm the truth.


Thank you for explaining what I meant, so that someone can better understand what I said.

The truth is that these are the places that I see for the first time, I had not visited them, nor do I have any idea what they are like, but it is good that you ask to see if someone has visited them and if they have experience, on a personal level what I recommend is that Be very careful with those sites since they are sites that are not in the forum, and well not because they are not in the forum they are not recommended, they can be recommended, and good, but I think that here we are in our forum We have many ways to see these things, because the best sites have their threads and we can verify all their activity, as some problems arise and sometimes even dramas we have seen, but even so I strongly recommend that the caisno sites be the ones that are 'bread here in the forum, because there are more trustworthy ones, those who have more reputation, or a high reputation, generally only the oldest sites fascinate me and I always play on freebitco.in, bicasinsoio, freebitco.in and other sites that are very nice and recommendable.

There are sites like the ones you say that sometimes they make you just to show, so I don't know, but I wouldn't give any credit to them, unless they come to the forum, present their project, their site, their way of presenting it, well it could be The best thing is to do everything and thus be able to have more confidence, and although confidence is not built overnight because it is obvious that you have to try the caisno, there are some members of the forum who are experts in this, there are some who are reviewers , they are people who come in and try everything in the casino and give their opinions, very professional and can leave their review, it is clear that this is very volatile, to build a good reputation you need to have the right product, offering better services, good support, contests , bonuses, because here in this area the competition is very big, there are casinos that are titans, and this has to be because they are their competition.

Same here mate! I haven't heard those gambling site that was mentioned above and I think all activities with a monetary involved is considered as a gambling activity, whether it cost a low cost penny, for me I still called it as gambling. We can't say that we should gamble on a reputable sites only because we all know that some of us is a risk taker and wants to try different sites in order to know different gambling activities but for me, I will stick with legit and reputable sites because I can't risk and entrust my money easily.