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Title: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Sun2k on May 05, 2023, 06:45:48 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: boyptc on May 05, 2023, 07:07:25 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
1. Whatever is the total amount that they've collected before launching calculated with its supply then that determines its price. But I could be wrong on this one so CMIIW.

2. Well, most of these investors before the launching they all one got big plan and goal and that's to sell and dump it as soon as it's listed on any exchange where it will be headed. That's why, if you're quite late on this one, you may not be able to profit.

But if you've missed the price before the launching and you're probably hyped in by its current situation, you may want to continue observing it before buying.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: mk4 on May 05, 2023, 07:17:53 PM
1. There's no one answer to this as there's different models of token pre-selling. Some do first-come, first-served, some do it with a static price, etc. I'm not sure how Binance usually does it because I never joined a presale on their platform.

2. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It will totally depend on valuations.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: bittraffic on May 05, 2023, 07:31:18 PM

Whenever the market opens and there is a buy order, the price of that buy order is also the current price. I think it's not up to someone but the market determines the price.

If the price is pumping, I don't see any wrong in buying as long as you can also dump when it's necessary also. Tokens that are launched in the bull run season usually pump, it should be good.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 05, 2023, 08:07:38 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

Well, when tokens are first released, some projects decide to do a pre-sale in different forms, such as an ICO (initial coin offering), an IEO (initial exchange offering), or an IDO (initial dex offering), and the core project team is always responsible for the price they decide to sell at during their presales. Also, the project owners could decide to list their token at $1, but after listing at the mentioned price and the token seems to have a lot of exposure, or should I say a lot of waiting investors waiting to pump in money and buy the token, the price could move from the $1 listing price to $2.5 or more (immediately after it gets listed or after some times). But if the token has no much exposure, and perhaps there are a lot of early investors already who have bought from the ICO or even some people who earn the token for free, they may be waiting for the day the token will get listed so that they can sell, so perhaps if the token also gets listed at $1 each, and let's say there are a lot of people ready to sell compared to just a few numbers willing to buy, the price of the token will crash from $1 to $0.Whatever.

So if a token was sold for a few cents during the pre-sale, then after it got listed on Binance or some tire one exchange, the price spiked, definitely because there were more people buying the token and also because there was enough liquidity for as many investors who were selling the token.

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2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

This is a decision you need to make for yourself. I have tried it before, but I was unlucky because it did not favor me. I spent $300 to buy a token immediately after it got listed, and for some time the price was fluctuating until it kept going down. I was so impatient because I was really losing money on that investment, so I sold at a loss. I lost about $100. (Although I made a profit of about $50 but I guess I was expecting more, so I still wait until I lost it and also lost about $100+ of my capital).


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Flexystar on May 05, 2023, 08:10:47 PM
There are numerous factors actually. I have observed the intensity of social marketing, airdrops, third party site publications and most importantly the % participant in the ICO sales. Now the last factor is bit tricky. In case of social marketing you can understand the analytics however, in case of ICO sales, the figures could be misleading. They are not indicative of real value. For example, owners/founders could deceive the investors by sending their own money from various addresses and thus doing an insider job to create a fake demand in the market.

Since we put the anonymous thing next inline when it comes to the crypto investments, we are doomed by it's usage during investments such as above one.

Such fake shit can hamper the coin's value at alarming rate during the listing. Moreover, it also depends on which exchanger it is going to list. Usually I have seen well known exchangers will create a hype before few days of listing some coins. Peeps actually start investing during that period as well considering its getting listed on popular exchanger.

These are most common factors but not limited to this one.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Huppercase on May 05, 2023, 08:25:55 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

I'm going to answer your question the in according to the numbers:

1. Nobody determine the price of a token launch, it all depends on the demand and supply of the token but ofcourse, there is a listing price especially when there is a presale, seed sales for venture capitals and also public sale. The price in which this tokens are sold to investor before listing them vary because of allocations and also priority and when they plan to go public listen, they make sure it doesn't go below the public which is always slightly higher than other sales. When the token are been distributed, not everyone get the opportunity to buy before listing, so traders fomo to buy as soon as it get listed and that is how the price pump and the demand and supply determine how far the price will go. SUI for example was sold for whitelisted investors for $0.03 and initial exchange offering for $0.1 and it is now trading at $1.29.

2. It depends on how long you plan to hold, if you buy when a token is listed, there is usually short term pump if they are IEO conducted tokens and also in bull market, it is advisable but don't try it during bear market, most traders sell quickly as soon as they make some profit.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: goaldigger on May 05, 2023, 08:49:38 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
The price will always depend on the demand and supply, if there’s a good demand during the launching or listing, then you can expect a good price but at you can see, the usual trend during listing is that, the price will dump because many will take profit especially those who are able to buy on pre-sale.

If you are not able to buy during pre-sale, better not to rush buying it during the listing, its ok to wait for a week for the price to stabilize, and with SUI right now, its pretty cheap compare to its ATH hence a great time to accumulate.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Myleschetty on May 05, 2023, 09:06:47 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
There are various things that depend on the token price at launch. The team's dedication, influence marketing, the project's fundamental concept, potential, listing on liquidity provider exchange, and slam everything with some hype.
This is all the exact thing the team involved in the SUI token did and if the project didn't have the needed longevity trust me all the bullish will end in the next market correction. If you can take risk you can take the risk of quick buy and sell but I will advise you not to go for crypto if you're not sure about its future position in the market for quick profit instead invest in BTC.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Wiwo on May 05, 2023, 09:18:58 PM
1. There's no one answer to this as there's different models of token pre-selling. Some do first-come, first-served, some do it with a static price, etc. I'm not sure how Binance usually does it because I never joined a presale on their platform.

2. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It will totally depend on valuations.
When the team do the pre-sale themselves, their offers first come first serve percentage quantity buying and also give those early investors a lot of bonuses as early adopters, while the price of the token/coin at pre-sale changes at different stages of the token sale up until the closing of token sell period which places a token price about 30% less to it exchange listing price.

The team have the sole right to set the tokens listing price,  and the exchange have little role to perform in that since the token teams are the one providing the liquidity for the token on the exchange,  and even in the situation of price pump, the team supply the liquidity, not the exchange.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Husires on May 06, 2023, 01:03:39 AM
1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

The currency team estimates the listing price, which is often low. After the listing is completed, the people who got the price before listing will try to sell their currencies here. The required liquidity will determine the price of token. If there is more demand than supply, the price will increase and vice versa.

manipulation can happen here where the currency team or anyone, with amounts such as a million dollars, can pump the price of the currency and thus create a false demand that brings more people out of greed, and suddenly you lose all your money.

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?
It's the worst time for you to buy because it's when the whales move in to make their greedy instincts go up and you lose a lot.

If you got that token for free or because you performed a service such as participating in the bounty, then sell half of it after listing and the second half after 3 days, otherwise do not invest.




Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: swiftxi on May 06, 2023, 01:44:52 AM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.


The token price will be most likely determined by the original set price like 0.1$ per token at start of presale. And then from there an exchange can get maybe 50% of that value so that someone actualy wants to buy it.
And it will end up trading for 0.01 - 0.03 $ instead of 0.1$ which presale investors payed. This can fluctuate massively, thats why crypto is not a fast game, sometimes you need to wait months or years to turn a profit.

2.
All depends on the coin in question , sometimes it is. Its up to you to determine what you would like to do with it, turn quick profit  or hodl, perhaps use it as actual means of payment or smh like that idk...


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Blowon on May 06, 2023, 02:10:08 AM
1) it depends on the interest and FOMO of the community, well even though they are listed on the big market it is a bit of a factor too, but it only has a small impact, the big impact is those who can make this project boom is the community itself, the project boom will increase the interest of investors to buy.

2) it's also a kind of gamble, I think that instead of trying your luck it's better you have to be mentally prepared to inflame your assets and in-depth research, at least it reduces your feeling of regret when investing.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on May 06, 2023, 02:12:24 AM
Hi everyone,
1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing
The team itself who determine the price at the token launch and after the token already launched. Market will decide what will be the suitable price for the token when it has been actilve traded.


2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

As long as the token already dumped so hard and why not? The main thing if is you shall always try to do your own research. Think about that. If you are thinking that token was undervaled and just buy it.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Faisal2202 on May 06, 2023, 02:43:52 AM
1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing
Many members had already answered with almost the same context of "demand and supply" but you should consider thinking about what causes a highly new token's high demand or high supply and vice versa. Because as Dr.Bitcoin_Strange has already mentioned the listing price of a token can move up or down immediately after the listing. But i would like to mention important factors that caused a token price;
  • Hype that creates high demand
  • Circulating supply which of sui is 5% and it is less supply that increases the price for the short term
  • Listing of tokens on recognized CEXs that can be easily accessible by most of the crypto maniacs.
  • Who are the investors and partners of the project
  • Use-case of the project, like, does it meet the new trend?
2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?
No (http://No), you should not do that because who knows to which extent a candle will go like the listing price of sui let's take was 1.37$ something, and then if the weight of buying is more than selling in the first candle then its price will always go up like for sui it goes up to $4 dollars and then in the same candle it came down to $1.3.  This indicates that we should not play with fire and should wait to cool it down. Because what if for the sake of profit, you bought it for around $4 dollars and that was the maximum potential it have to touch and after that, it never tries to break that potential then what will you do rather than bear the pain?

So play cool and be patient.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Lamkuthang on May 06, 2023, 06:51:01 AM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

The price of a token at launch is determined by a variety of factors, including market demand, token supply, and the perceived value of the project behind the token. In some cases, the price may be determined by the project team or through an auction process, but ultimately it is the market that determines the token's value

Overall, the price of a newly listed token can be highly volatile and unpredictable, and there is no guarantee that the price will continue to rise after the initial listing. for this moment many are waiting and may be tempted to buy tokens once registered in the hope of making a quick profit. ;D ;D ;D but this strategy is often risky.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Mpamaegbu on May 06, 2023, 06:59:19 AM
From my observation, the price at launch is arbitrary set by the project team during the prelaunch time with various marketing channels like ICOs, IDOs or even IEOs and teams test the waters to see how it goes. The projects become immediately sold out if the price is deemed to be too good for the project. Some times the projects don't get sold out too and it can be from negative assessment of what they tend to bring to the market. I've participated in several launchpads and such reactions are made clear there too.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Weezenhofnar on May 06, 2023, 08:50:06 AM
1/ The price of a token at launch is usually determined by market demand and supply. During the pre-sale stage, the project team can set a price for the token, but once it hits the market, it will be determined by market participants buying and selling the token on exchanges. It's important to keep in mind that the price can be volatile and can fluctuate based on a variety of factors, such as news, market sentiment, and investor demand.

2/ Buying a token as soon as it is listed can be risky, as the price can be volatile and may not reflect the true value of the project. It's important to do your own research and assess the fundamentals of the project before investing. It's also important to set a target price and stick to it, as emotions can often get in the way of sound investment decisions.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Apocollapse on May 06, 2023, 08:55:18 AM
1. The developer already set the price at the beginning when it's listed on the exchange, remember SUI is a centralized token, so the price isn't only determined by demand and supply. But there's should be a reason why they use an exact price, maybe it's a combination of their promise, the money that they've collected during Pre-ICO sales etc.

2. When the coin is already listed on a centralized exchange, 99% the coin will lose it's price since the early holder dump their coins. It's really risky if you accumulate the coin when it's already worthless, better to choose other coins.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: libert19 on May 06, 2023, 09:13:47 AM
I try to answer 2nd question. It depends on coin and where the sale is held, it's well-known that whenever binance held sale of any coin it rose to sky upon listing. Here, Sui project itself had lot of hype around it. These two combined gave sui investors lot of returns.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: slashz9 on May 06, 2023, 10:46:02 AM
the first one, is the market maker or taker, that will be affect the price when they do that.
secondly it depends on the coin, how big the fomo and the fundamentals are, especially for short term profit taking, you have to see if the project makes big news when listing.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Rasa nanas on May 06, 2023, 11:59:57 AM
1. Who determines the token price at launch? seller, buyer and team.
but the team also matters a lot because the initial liquidity comes from the team. The more sales the price will decrease and the more purchases the price will increase.
2. buying early is high risk because at the beginning of the listing there will usually be large-scale sales and prices will drop dramatically. it's best to wait after the price drops drastically and the price stabilizes then buy and hold.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: ultrloa on May 06, 2023, 12:49:08 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.


No one knows but also maybe the dev will have a set price for their token when it listed on exchange. But we don't know if they can sustain that since for sure when it listed on exchange a huge selling pressure might came since for sure those people who already have those tokens and can able to sell will do massive selling since many want to secure their profits at early listing.

For thinking about buying it when selling pressure is done well maybe this is good idea but you also need to know if the dev had plan for continuous development of there project.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Rampagoe004 on May 06, 2023, 02:13:20 PM
1. First, the pre-sale price is determined by the team and several whales invest. No one can really make an absolute price decision at the start of the launch. The price that has been listed is the price that has been agreed upon by several parties
2. I like it like this. High risks attract high returns. But I won't put them in the same basket. I voted in several baskets for those tokens


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Jackl87 on May 06, 2023, 02:53:32 PM
Hi everyone,
1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing
2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?
Thanks for clarifying.

Well usually the listing price is the same price as the last one of the funding round or only slightly above that. If i remember correctly, than the listing price of Sui was also 0,1$ per coin because this was also the price of the public sale that was held on KuCoin. Sui is a very big project therefore a lot more people wanted to join the public sale then there were spots apparently and therefore there was a big buy pressure right after the listing.
So this means that Sui was listed for 0,1 on KuCoin but shot up to 1,50 or so withing a few seconds or minutes. In hindsight it would have been a good move to try to buy Sui as soon as it gets listed and as fast as possible, because then you would have been able to get it for below 0,50$ i would guess.
It is also possible that a project is dumping below the listing price. So it is hard to tell in advance what to do.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: wajik-tempe on May 06, 2023, 03:33:19 PM
1. The price of a token upon launch is decided by the token's market demand. The first price of a token is typically determined by private or public sales to early investors, as well as through an initial coin offering (ICO) or initial exchange offering (IEO). After the cryptocurrency is launched on an exchange, its price will fluctuate dependent on trading and investing activities. The project's underlying technology, staff, and relationships, as well as larger market movements and attitude, can all have an impact on token demand.

2. Buying a token as soon as it is listed might be dangerous since the price can be unpredictable and prone to unexpected decreases. While some traders and investors may earn from purchasing and selling tokens soon after they are listed, this technique necessitates a high degree of knowledge, competence, and expertise in the crypto market.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Fesatmas on May 06, 2023, 04:17:49 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
Various prices in accordance with the calculation of the developer and market demand, but maybe for the first pre -sales that the developer was carried out by the developers themselves on several exchanges, maybe behind the scenes they offer lower prices to the excange to be marketed on their platforms, but with sales Starting at the same price, like you have items that you will immediately launch to the market, and you will partner with several markets, then you offer your items, to them at the price below the price to be marketed, so that the platform gets also profit from initial sales.

What is clear is the developer determines the price of their goods.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: jacafbiz on May 06, 2023, 04:26:18 PM
The market determines the price of everything and it is never a good thing to do to FOMO into projects, no matter how hard a token pumps after listing expects the price to correct to the mean it is just a matter of time. If you miss the presale and the IEO, it is never good to FOMO into it unless you are a trader, if you want to trade good for scalping because there will be money to be made, but as an investor better to wait for corrections


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: yhiaali3 on May 06, 2023, 05:30:44 PM
1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing
There are many factors that determine the price of a token, including:
Total Supply and Circulating Supply, token demand, market competition, cost to generate the token, and other factors such as project or team strength and high publicity.

The project team can set the selling price to investors in the first. Or an agreement can be made with trading exchanges to set the listing price.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: BitcoinPanther on May 06, 2023, 06:22:36 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

It is the project creator or the project developer that determine the price of a token during their crowdfunding while the price on the token launch is also influenced by the project owner, how it carry on after the listing depends on the demand of the token.  Or how a certain group decide to pump the price to create a hype and profit from it.

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2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Often times when a token or coins is listed, there is a hype around the market so we might see a sudden surge then crash after.  So I think it is better to observe and wait for a good timing to buy the newly listed project if you are really dying to participate on the market of the said project.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Magic-Money on May 07, 2023, 08:16:05 AM
The question normally surprised me, sometimes the list price really been amazing from the team, which show that the team really raise fund from the SUI Coin, initial coin offering (ICO) Token sale's, that is currently trading in Binance Exchange, show that the team are really in business, with a very high profit returns investment from the ICO.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: glendall on May 07, 2023, 01:34:25 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

1, I don't think anyone sets the price at launch, but they do pre-sale and usually the pre-sale price is the base price of the coin, and after entering a market like binance, the offer price determines

2. If you are sure, I don't think there is anything wrong, but here we are required to be careful in making decisions


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Yatsan on May 07, 2023, 02:23:25 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
As mentioned by ither users, the price on listing is determined by the project itself but its potential market price will then be determined by the demand a token will create in the eyes of investors. With regards on buying a coin after being listed, it will depend on the token itself. If it is really promising then ofcourse going at it would be a good idea but if not and only driven by the idea of missing the opportunity, then that would be a gamble already. Also with instances of buying when the price have already increased by huge percentage, you could be the liquidation of those who have bought early. Always manage the risk and gauge the tendencies from doing so.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Bolivar_Tony on May 07, 2023, 10:16:54 PM
Hi everyone,

1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
The price of token is determined by the demand and supply theory, meaning that when SUI was listed, people set the price they want to sell, if many people are willing to buy at that price, then the price stands, the more people are willing to buy at the price, the more people pushes the price up, until it gets to a point, more people are willing to sell and few people are willing to buy then the price starts to go down, until it finds new support again.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: TheUltraElite on May 08, 2023, 02:09:48 PM
1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing
This comes from the project owners , usually they do with their own profits in mind. They will dump on the investors so they can cashout at big consolidated amount and then abandon the project, eventually. It is how these newly launched altcoins work. They are scamming, but in a manner in which the investors never understand. I might be proven wrong, but that is what I have been observing for the last few years.

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2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?
If you think the project is legit, give it a 2year period for observation before you buy in it. Usually the scams/rugpulls/shitcoins get abandoned by then and thus you will keep your money safe.

Sorry to break you bubble mate. :-\


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: raidarksword on May 08, 2023, 02:17:11 PM
First, the market decides the price for such a tokens or coin and of course the hype it brings to the crypto community of what project is about. Of course if listed on Binance, surely it will have a good price from the token sale price like SUI you mentioned. Secondly, never buy token upon listing because it will surely DIP after listing on it. Wait for a better chance and timing in order to give your buy orders and don't look further because market is in correction, it is the right time to buy of your likings.



Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: sokani on May 08, 2023, 03:55:39 PM
From my observation, the price at launch is arbitrary set by the project team during the prelaunch time with various marketing channels like ICOs, IDOs or even IEOs and teams test the waters to see how it goes. The projects become immediately sold out if the price is deemed to be too good for the project. Some times the projects don't get sold out too and it can be from negative assessment of what they tend to bring to the market. I've participated in several launchpads and such reactions are made clear there too.
Thank you chief. Like you said the listing price of a token is determined by the team. Then the hype, marketing, buy pressure, use-cases can do the rest. During presales a project can tell you at what price they are selling or at what marketcap and they can also tell you what price or marketcap they are listing. If the team doesn't do well to push the project forward, it may not go beyond the listing price and can take a deep dive into the abyss and never to be seen again.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Coyster on May 08, 2023, 04:08:24 PM
2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?
Well, i have no experience in these things because i don't buy tokens/altcoins, i am an avid Bitcoin enthusiast, so i try as much as possible to buy and hodl only Bitcoin. Anyway from the experiences of others and from what i have read online, it might not be a good idea, these tokens are pump and dump coins and they can only survive on hype alone, quite a lot of them dump once they are listed. Mind you that a whole lot of these tokens were created by their owners to get rich themselves, thus they put no work into the projects, once they get the money they want, they dump it in an exchange and that's the end of the coin, if you're hodling it by then, i'm afraid you'd be on the receiving end of things.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Adbitco on May 08, 2023, 09:14:34 PM
First to invest in altcoin you need to buy from pre-sale or IDO, although they might promise to list at $1 but it's not certain they must list at that price. If they are listing in a good exchange like Binance then good but the listing price might be $1.50 but the buying pressure and market strength might lead it to around $2.5 or more, as a good investor whenever you bought at some cent and they got listed all you could do is to sell off some percentage of your holding and keep monitoring the market. If the market increases again then you may sell again but for exchange like binance it may likely see $5 before dumping.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Desmong on May 08, 2023, 09:50:08 PM
The liquidity of the token would determines what the price may be . There are other features we can look at that can determine the price of a token which is based on the demand and supply. The more people buy a token the market cap will increase with an increase in liquidity of the coins. The buying rate always pushes the price of the token to the bull.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Newlifebtc on May 08, 2023, 10:05:06 PM
The liquidity of the token would determines what the price may be . There are other features we can look at that can determine the price of a token which is based on the demand and supply. The more people buy a token the market cap will increase with an increase in liquidity of the coins. The buying rate always pushes the price of the token to the bull.
Demand and supply is highest future that determine the lifespan of altcoin so even in Bitcoin when is the demand is higher than the supply in cryptocurrency or in Bitcoin especially bitcoin it at on the increment and decrement of Bitcoin, so I believe that or any other coin at on the same capacity


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: piebeyb on May 08, 2023, 10:05:34 PM
It is the traders who determine the price whether they are sellers or buyers, when the market is launched or opened everyone moves to buy and sell at the same time and they are the ones who determine that, if asking the pre-sale price it depends on the project team looking at the supply as well as the amount of tokens to be disbursed release on the market the possibility of calculation like that.

I was also one of the participants who took part in the SUI pre-sale and I benefited when the market was released and opened on binance and other exchanges where I was selling it at $1.5 at the time and it allowed me to make a profit because people wanted to buy it at that price while I put it at that price for sale. that's how the crypto trading system works, if you want to go deeper and clear learn a lot about it on google or use AI to understand your question


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Newlifebtc on May 08, 2023, 10:10:41 PM
I think that does tokens they have a specific price then gave him bring the lunch of a turkey and what makes the price of token goes off it is when it gathered influence when more people invest in that particular token it makes the particular to come to Skyrocket to a higher price so I think these are what determined the high price of token and low price of token


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Rasa nanas on May 09, 2023, 12:40:47 AM
The liquidity of the token would determines what the price may be . There are other features we can look at that can determine the price of a token which is based on the demand and supply. The more people buy a token the market cap will increase with an increase in liquidity of the coins. The buying rate always pushes the price of the token to the bull.
yes the initial liquidity from team only determines the price in the short term not the long term, what determines the price in the long term is the liquidity formed from purchases made by investors or the community. therefore it is useless if only the initial liquidity is large but in the end the buying value is less than the selling value, it causes the price to fall slowly.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: GreatArkansas on May 09, 2023, 02:17:45 AM
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2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?
For me here is no, because we already experience a lot of this, especially for tokens that were airdropped recently, like Aptos and Arbitrum.
As you can see, on these both tokens, on the very first they started to be traded, the price started on top and it is dropping slowly.
That's why a lot of people are waiting for a dump before buying, or some people that got airdropped tokens tend to sell them after it is available to trade and they will just rebuy at a cheaper price.
I am not sure if this will still apply if we are in a bull season.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: RussianEnglishTranslation on May 10, 2023, 01:25:29 AM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
Often times the price is determined by the presale price given to VC. The price should not dump below that price or else VC would be selling at a loss.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: woez on May 10, 2023, 05:38:47 AM
Often times the price is determined by the presale price given to VC. The price should not dump below that price or else VC would be selling at a loss.


While it is true as you imply that Venture Capitalist (VC) tend to sell their tokens below the presale price, this is not always the case. They may have a variety of reasons to sell their tokens, including diversifying their portfolio or taking profits. Additionally, some VC may have lock-up periods or other restrictions that prevent them from selling tokens immediately after launch. Normally the price at the time the token is launched, factors like market demand, utility, and overall market sentiment play an important role I think.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: TheUltraElite on May 24, 2023, 03:51:43 PM
While it is true as you imply that Venture Capitalist (VC) tend to sell their tokens below the presale price, this is not always the case. They may have a variety of reasons to sell their tokens, including diversifying their portfolio or taking profits. Additionally, some VC may have lock-up periods or other restrictions that prevent them from selling tokens immediately after launch. Normally the price at the time the token is launched, factors like market demand, utility, and overall market sentiment play an important role I think.
VCs are coming in for the profit not for the welfare of the rest of the investors. They do have lock in periods and these are never declared to public investors but only inside closed door meeting with the VCs. Once that lock in period ends, they dump immediately and cash out of the project. That is the major time when the project loses ground and the investors are left with nothing but dust because the projects rarely come out of that dump.

This has been the reality with many projects if you look through the history. One of the reasons why you should give a project a couple of years before investing and if invested early, exit early too.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: wajik-tempe on May 24, 2023, 04:42:15 PM
1. The pre-sale price of a token is often set at a lower value to incentivize early investors and create a sense of exclusivity. The listing price on exchanges such as Binance, on the other hand, is determined by market factors such as supply and demand pressures, investor mood, trading volume, and liquidity. It is crucial to remember that the initial listing price may fluctuate significantly over the first few days of trade as the market evaluates the real worth of the token.


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: Bolivar_Tony on May 24, 2023, 04:48:31 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
1. Price is determine by the ,market force, ie the theory of demand and supply, the more people are willing to buy the more the price go up and the less people want to buy the prices goes down because more people are willing to sell and few people are willing to buy.

2. it depends on the coin, if it's a good coin with real work usage and community backed, then it is a good idea, but if it's all these meme coins, you might have to think again before you buy them again


Title: Re: I have 2 questions that bother me
Post by: abel1337 on May 24, 2023, 04:53:33 PM
Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
1. Price is determine by the ,market force, ie the theory of demand and supply, the more people are willing to buy the more the price go up and the less people want to buy the prices goes down because more people are willing to sell and few people are willing to buy.

2. it depends on the coin, if it's a good coin with real work usage and community backed, then it is a good idea, but if it's all these meme coins, you might have to think again before you buy them again
Yep, that factors are valid for determining the price of a coin that is just listed. If people knows there's a demand for a coin, they are more willing to rush at the listing price or near it to gather it in short they are FOMO. But as we know there are coins that only has sharp market bumps but minutes after being followed by heavy selling pressure that is cause by flippers or short term trader that only want to get profit from the opportunity. If the project has the real demand, the coin will stay near it's peak price as the project community is guarding it's support price. Overall, The price after the listing will all depends on different variables and couldn't be answered directly.