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The transaction fee on Bitcoin is increasing day by day. It cost now 14$ for a low-priority transaction to 17$ for high priority transaction. I was planning to make a deposit today on my casino account until I notice the high fee on my electrum sent tab. The fee is almost 5% of my total bankroll that I was supposed to deposit. I decided to rest for now since I will be down immediately by 5% for a transaction that I don't know when will gonna be confirmed.

Is anyone still playing today with this high fee? I think those gamblers that leave funds in the casino are very happy that they didn't need to experience this fee drama.

I don't know how long this fee crisis is going to last but the best alternative is to use other deposits options such as USTD or ETH etc for now since Bitcoin networks are congested, indeed those that have a balance on the casino may not experience this high fees and network difficulties but we can fine our way around it until the network subsides in the coming days.

I haven't checked with deposit on gambling platform. While sending transaction from electrum wallet to another wallet I experienced a big increase in transaction fee. For a transaction of 12mBtc finally paid 0.02385mBtc as fee. For the same transaction one month back on the same day I've paid 0.00565mBtc. This shows there is almost 5x raise in the transaction fee. Initially I tried with similar fee(0.00565mBTC) and slowly kept increasing and transaction got confirmed only after 0.02385mBtc fee.

I haven't gambled since the hike in bitcoin's gas fees, but that's not the reason I'm not gambling. If I wanted to, I could easily deposit USDT on the Binance chain and continue with my bets, but for now, I'm on pause while I figure out something else.

And the same is true for withdrawals; I saw a thread today about a user claiming that his withdrawal had not yet been received after having requested it for a couple of hours. Now that the cost is so high, it's best to deposit and withdraw using stable currency, but if you're willing to wait a day or more before placing your wager, you can stick using bitcoin.

Most casino bets are based on dollar, so there's no reason to stick with the current habit of depositing using bitcoins that can leave you scratching your head if you set fees low. Also conversely, withdrawing bitcoins will take longer if the casino does not change the withdrawal rates to adjust the priority fee level, so in certain cases gamblers will start accusing the casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5451874.0) of being guilty of ignorance of network conditions.

I have had many bitter and sweet experiences from gambling and I have never regretted anything because gambling is a choice and I also have to be able to take responsibility for all the risks involved.
But on the other hand I also gained a lot of insight and experience while gambling and the valuable lesson I got was how to be able to control my emotions and finances because not only in gambling, in everyday life emotional and financial control is very important. .
Even though I often experience defeat, I don't feel like I'm losing because I can get pleasure that can't be obtained from other places.

So far, every deposit or withdrawal transaction I always use USDT so the fees are relatively cheaper, BTC of course has a higher fee because an increase in the price of BTC can also affect an increase in transaction fees.

This fee crisis is a little disturbing because it is clear that I am personally rethinking making a deposit at this time, but fortunately I still have leftovers that I did not spend before so for now and in the next few days I may still not be sending it back to add to my account balance.

But on the other hand, if this is still happening and my balance runs out then maybe I will think about postponing gambling for a few days and looking for some local sites where I want to play with fiat deposits instead of crypto for a while.

The fees are quite high at the moment, but so is the Bitcoin price. 1 BTC is around 28k USD again which a 70% increase in 2023 alone. Comparing to what the price was last year and where we likely bought our coins the fee is not that high. I am still gambling on crypto casinos, but prefer to not deposit money with Bitcoins anymore. Since the bear market 1.5 years ago I try to avoid spending any Bitcoins because the price is too low. For me the best way is to deposit money with fiat currency and then withdraw any winnings in Bitcoin. Like that I can grow my crypto portfolio over time and don't need to buy coins on an exchange. To a certain extent I would also leave some funds at the casino, as long as its below 200 USD I would not withdraw the money instantly, only for bigger wins I would take the high fee to save some of my winnings. The risk of leaving all the money at the casinos is that we gamble more and with higher bet sizes to eventually lose all our previous winnings again. Better to pay a small fee and save some money long term.

The fees are high but I don't think they will be staying that high.I usually send with a low priority and I don't care much to wait for about 25 block for 1st confirmation as that is the lowest Electrum wallet lets me use as fees when I use static ones.For people using dynamic fees they should change to static if they want to deposit at less fees but of course the wait time will be higher.Nevertheless even with 25 confirmations the deposits I have made have been confirmed with just an hour or a bit more which I think I can clearly wait for this as long as I am playing sport betting and even slot machines.

I still play gambling to this day and luckily, I still have a deposit balance in my account so I don't have to deposit any money. I haven't checked what the transaction fees are for today but I guess if the transaction fees increase sharply, we can use other coins to deposit into our account.

By using other coins, I think it can make it easier for us to avoid the current high transaction fees. And if I had to use another coin, I guess TRX, BNB or USDT based on TRX would be an option. Or we can also use Doge as the coin choice.

The last time I deposited, my BTC was through a personal wallet to an exchange site where I had to pay >$3. Usually, I only pay under $1 or $2. And that's still within normal limits, in my opinion.

Changing it to another coin besides Bitcoin is the best option right now, especially if we really feel like want to gamble and also the casino where we play gives lots of options in deposits, so that's not an obstacle at all to keep playing. Ethereum is lower in transaction fees nowadays than Bitcoin but still not much fun for the little gambler perhaps dogecoin is an alternative and also XRP if it is available in the casino we play at.
What might be a concern for us as players is that when the casino increases the withdrawal fee it will reduce our profits because even though there are gamblers who still have funds at the casino, if the casino implements this because transaction costs don't improve, the player's profits can decrease due to increased fees, but hopefully the casinos don't implement this and the transaction density on the Bitcoin network isn't as dense as it is now.

You do realize that almost all crypto casinos accept altcoins, right? ;D
Who would waste money on high transaction fees right now, only for the sake of spending BTC for gambling?
I'm not the biggest crypto fanatic in the world. I don't mind spending some time and money gambling on a fiat online casino.
Everyone keeps complaining about the high tx fees right now. I hope that this blockchain congestion will go away after a week or two. If it stays for more than two weeks, then we have a big problem.

If you're a high roller and you prefer Bitcoin and you don't want to wait for the network to decongest, you'll take the fee and hope that you will win to regain the transaction fees.

The other option is choosing other coins/tokens that the casino is accepting, I'm using TRX and Doge to deposit and play because I can easily trade it to my local currency through our local exchange but there are gamblers who will deposit regardless of the situation on the network, they cannot stop or delay from playing.

For this reason, there are many choices provided by casinos and one of them gives gamblers the desire to continue to be able to play at a low cost. I think we just need to really take other, much more affordable options. The current fee has become a ubiquitous complaint both at casinos and at centralized exchanges such as Binance which temporarily suspended BTC withdrawals. As a bit of a gambler, I don't care about this, as other networks stay within reach. What's more, to be honest, I have never used Bitcoin for gambling. As for gamblers who already have a balance at the casino in the form of BTC, then like it or not, if you really want to withdraw it, you have to be able to maximize your winnings or wait while taking other deposit options.

I could imagine this will be highly damaging for Bitcoin and has identified a substantial weakness in cryptocurrency designed this way in general. The only way that crypto can compete with fiat currency is if transaction fees stay somewhat low and competitive with fiat payment processors, people might be willing to spend 5% to have this decentralized option but not 15-20% over. It's a shame that the pointless NFT's are yet again ruining the day and wasting peoples money, even those cannot be sustainable at these prices. I wonder if the network will be able to improve or they will stop filling up the blockchain with this garbage, maybe the developers need to step in with a solution to discourage it.

I didn't do any transactions lately so my gambling experience has nothing to do with the current state of the bitcoin network. I can gamble just fine as long as I don't want to deposit or withdraw I think. I heard even Binance stopped bitcoin withdrawals and that's quite alarming. If the devs don't fix this soon then bitcoin may even lose its #1 seat to some other coin. Fuck NFT's. They should just scrap it away. I don't know who came up with the ordinals idea but he ruined bitcoin with that move. Just remove it and bitcoin will be the king again.

Mempool became so congested recently that sending bitcoin is a nightmare now. If one is thinking to deposit $50 or $100 then it's not worth it. Even if you are planning to deposit $500 then still it too costly for you. It's not a permanent problem by the way. Soon mempool will be cleared and then everything will be as normal as it was. I think it's better to give a break if your bankroll is small.

It's good for miners though LOL

I've been avoiding to look at the mempool these past few days so damn you hehe. I was already thinking of my recent win-loss ratio from sportsbetting when I read the title but you just reminded me of the high transaction fee.

I still have some decent balance in my account so I'm still good when it comes to betting. If the time to withdraw comes and fees don't change then I may use other cheaper options.

I realize that bitcoin transactions are even more crowded making fees even higher at 564 sat/vB ($22.30) at the time of writing, obviously gamblers who deposit their small amount of money in bitcoins are better off avoiding it and using other alternatives to keep going gambling if you don't want to stop gambling.

Other altcoins remain an alternative, but I hope the mempool returns to normal at its original cost, this may be due to the BRC20 being hype hence the gas being higher than usual.
I'm sure gambling will not be hampered, it's just that for those who want to deposit bitcoin, there will be a few obstacles.

I think this situation will become normal within few days when the transactions rate will be low and transaction fees will automatically come down but yes at this time it's hard to deposit btc.The problem is for small gamblers who can't afford this fees with small deposit but yes they can shift to other coins because playing through them is fine to save fees and most of them are also confirmed fast.But hope fees come down and we deposit btc to casino for gambling.

What?! $14 already for low priority in Bitcoin? Damn. Last week I just made a transaction for 2 dollars but it took 6 hours before I received it. I am good with that even if takes a while as long as it's cheap. But the amount you said is too high now. Yeah, it's a disturbing number and it might drive away gamblers from depositing their funds in their favorite gambling sites.

I think other coins will have an increase in demand because of this especially those with lower fees. BNB for example, if it's available as means to gamble in a gambling site then I might just pick that chain just so I could gamble more than spend it all with fees.
Expect sudden upward fluctuation even with the not-so-popular cryptocurrencies. Maybe a good time to stock some of it.

There are still many other alternative coins to use with low transaction fees and I'm sure that gamblers who cant afford to pay for high bitcoin fee are using alternative coins. Small players who usually play with few tens dollar will not be willing to pay such high fee obviously as they will lose some money already even before they start gambling. I'm not sure about high rollers, maybe they do not care about few tens dollar fee but maybe there are some high rollers who also prefer to use alternative coins as well in this situation.

High fees don't prevent me from continuing to make bitcoin deposits and withdrawals when I gamble, but what I notice is that bitcoin fees keep changing

btw, I'm quite surprised with the average gambling site, they rarely tell users about the constantly changing fee amounts, even though this can make players choose another option if the fee is high enough

Still high today I'm monitoring it because I am about to send it to my local exchange, this has been the issue for 3 to 5 days right its not only the gamblers but also traders and sellers all of us are affected by this very high issue, we need an alternate coin to transact
so if you don't have an option to or don't want to deposit altcoins, you have no choice but to wait for the network to decongest,

This is not the first time it happen, a few years ago it took one of my transactions 24 hours to confirm I didn't bump it because I wait, and it's only a small amount, having good alternatives is important because this is not the last time this is going to happen.

Well, it's not the first time we see a spike in transaction fees. We had some really crazy periods in the last 5-6 years... High transaction fees are the reason why I don't use Ethereum for a while.

We have good alternatives... there are a bunch of good coins with really low transaction fees. And in some casinos and wallets, we can choose from different chains, my favorites are BEP20 and TRX. Cheap and fast, what can I add more?

I guess some of us never stopped gambling... with some short breaks of course for various reasons. And just to add I am not afraid to leave some cash for gambling in the casino I trust.

Since I'm a small gambler, I'd leave my coins on my casino because there's no point for me to move it to my wallet. I would choose to lost all of my money on the casino rather than lose it due to overpay Bitcoin fee because there's no fun about it. This is why a casino need an internal exchange, so the gambler can convert it to altcoins which have low transaction fee.

But there are some casinos have an internal exchanges, you can check it here LIST Gambling sites with internal exchange (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282289.0)

The problem is you will still need to transfer your Bitcoin that stored to your electrum wallet to exchange just to use different currency to gamble unless you have other altcoins in the bag which is not the case for most user here.

I think Duelbits deposit feature that converts all currency to $ works perfectly on this current scenario. You can dodge the high withdrawal fee on Bitcoin if you deposit using Bitcoin currency. So glad I use Duelbits most of the time before this high fees drama hits us hard.

Same here, I don't participate in this sheep run where people are outbidding each other for high priority transactions, often paying more than $50 to send some money. There are so many FUD driven runs in history of bitcoin, with the biggest one happening when BCH people were spamming the network to make bitcoin look bad in comparison. I haven't participated in any of these panic moves and I'm not going to do it in this one. It's going to pass, like everything else. 6 months later nobody's going to talk about it anymore.

Gamble with what you have on casinos and don't be bothered by things you cannot control.

Use BUSD, XRP and Doge if you really want a low transaction in your deposit. Most of the casino only supports TRC20 and ERC20 USDT which charge you a fee a minimum of 2$ while the token that I mention on charge few cents with same seamless transaction.

I’m already having fun using Bitcoin on gambling since the fee before the ordinals became popular is very cheap but now I think we have no choice than to look for alternative. I hope casino will find a way to implement a built-in exchange for those user that use Bitcoin as currency.

Not only just on gambling but also in my typical transactions made on bitcoin which everything is being halted because of huge or high gas fees which i cant really afford on paying 12-20$ when it comes to fees.

Having transactions on just $30 deposits would really be that eating up 50% of your bankroll or even with the fund which you do need.This isnt something new but its unusual that there's really that lots of transactions
in the network now on which it did really clogged out on the market. Scability issues is always been a main problem or issue with Bitcoin this is why altcoins that have cheap fees would be a viable option or solution as
of this moment. Lets just accept the fact that this had been the problem once network congestion do happens.

I could still play on using up some coins too which specially Dogecoin, considering that most of gambling sites on which i do play do really accept lots of options
when it comes to payment options which it is really that a good relief for this typical situation.

It's really such a hassle whenever transaction fees skyrocket to this kind of amount. It's hard to afford it especially if you are a small time gambler because the transaction fee will already make a difference such as additional to the gambling fund. If this will continue, it'll force the small time gamblers to use another coin for a while so they can still deposit and play. Since for sure, it's much better to adjust for a while than not play and bet at all for those who really like to gamble.

If I were it, I'd rather pause or just shift temporarily to other coins available that has lower fees. Hopefully though, this will soon lower down gradually so there won't be much negative effects.

The latter is 100% me. I rarely gamble nowadays and when I do I often leave a lot since I get bored really quickly, so I have quite a bit of left overs to the point that even if I play a few more times I'd probably be fine without depositing. I also use coins with low transaction fees sometimes so it's an easy bypass, sometimes that is.

Wouldn't say the same for sports betting though, if fees are still the same once TI comes up. Last Apex tournament that I betted on didn't have insane fees so I didn't really notice.

There are actually many options when the costs involved in making bitcoin transactions are enormous. As you said some of the coins you mentioned. Not only for gambling, but everyone will think twice about transactions using bitcoins when they have to pay such high transaction fees, especially if we only have a small amount of bitcoins, don't let the amount of bitcoins we will deposit be less than the transaction fees charged. we have to take it out. lol

I believe the problem itself is the bitcoin network, based from the OP, his bitcoin is coming from his electrum wallet.
There's no problem if you are using other wallets supporting other cheaper networks like Tron or BSC.
With the case of the OP, just lay low for a bit and wait for the fees to go down because there are indeed instances that are quite expensive.
But if you happen to deposit from other wallets supporting other networks, then, take advantage of it. Compare their fees and see if it will help you.

not really, haven't been gambling much lately and if I did I usually use XRP when depositing.

it even reached $20 for low priority just several hours ago. at this point, it would be better to just use another crypto at the moment to save money on fees if anyone plans to gamble during this time.

I mean, why you force yourself to gamble using Bitcoin? just exchange it for cheaper fee altcoins e.g. Doge, Litecoin, TRC-20 tokens etc. This will avoid drama of paying high fees, I think it's still long to wait people to lost their interest to buy BRC-20 tokens, usually the hype last long for few months or a year. Remember next or two next years later bull run will happen, the Bitcoin price will increase and it make the fees skyrocketed more than this.

Best to wait a bit until things calm down and fees drop. Or gamble with an altcoin. You do not have to use Bitcoin everytime just to gamble, you know? And personally, losing altcoins does not sting as much as when you gamble and lose Bitcoin, for some reason  :P

A middle-way solution would be to use a Bitcoin pegged altcoin, and preferably, when such casinos come out, gamble using those Bitcoin pegged altcoins without having to send them to any third party wallet.

It should be possible already with BEP20, ERC20 and etc. pegged Bitcoin and self custodial wallets. But I have no idea if there is any legitimate and trusted casino offering such services.

and here we go again with the bitcoin high transaction fee problem, we were already past this big nightmare, I was shocked to see news like this:

Binance halts Bitcoin withdrawals for the second time in 12 hours (http://)

it's a very bad situation, many people (including me) have been withdrawing money from binance directly to the casinos where they have an account, but when we see this kind of unpleasant news, people have to use altcoins and not all people like to use them altcoin, for example if a person uses altcoin to withdraw because bitcoin is not available for withdrawal that person may lose money too, that's because when the price of bitcoin falls, then the price of altcoins fall much more than the price of bitcoin, so the person buys 1 LTC for the price of 83$ and sends it to the casino, until binance approves the withdrawal and arrives at the casino the price of LTC could drop to 80$

and the person would already have a loss of 3$ and binance will not be held responsible for this loss, without a doubt that this whole problem of high transaction fees has created many headaches for people, the price of bitcoin is still above 27000$, but a drop below $27000 would trigger another panic selling and more people will rush to sell bitcoin and hold USDT and others will be withdrawing their bitcoin and keeping it in their wallets to do hodl in the long term, I don't know if all casinos will too will increase the withdrawal rate, unfortunately in the case of casinos the situation is more serious, because those who deposit in bitcoin can only withdraw in bitcoin

Actually, I have not done a deposit for my casino for almost two weeks to do fun because I have many financial problems that I have to prioritize, and also I don't have much time because lately working almost full time from my daily life. Witnessing almost three days using Bitcoin to gamble the transaction fee is too large, I think why it can happen, it turns out that there are many using Bitcoin network that makes it.

I think only a small number of people who use bitcoin as their deposit to the casino, and they are only able, most of the other people use Altcoin for their gambling, it is more alternative than imposing such a big fee.

It cannot be avoided, this will happen eventually and it's now. I think all we can do is be wise about it. Use other currencies instead like USDT or XRP if it's available. Low fees and fast transactions, we are now limited at using altcoins instead and let this high bitcoin transaction fees calm down.
But if forced, it will be a good idea to deposit large amount to evade going back and forth which is probably more expensive. There's no other solution yet than those two, in my opinion.

Yes, few hrs ago I think binance freeze the withdrawal of bitcoin due to the fees. When I gamble I rather choose altcoins rather than using bitcoin itself, I cannot take the thought that what if my betting amount in bitcoin when being converted is higher than it was before, I have that kind of thought that's why I gamble using usdt or other xrp or other altcoins that are available in the website.

There's no difference if you gamble with ERC-20 tokens since the fees are higher compared to Bitcoin network, only BEP-20 tokens are make sense. Yeah there's an altcoins pegged with Bitcoin e.g. Wrapped Bitcoin. AFAIK the most trusted and popular casino which offer to gamble by connecting your wallet are owl.games, but their casino aren't accessible now, they said they were in development and will comeback when it's done.

People will definitely gambles regardless of the high transaction fee just that it might also have little impact on those who were unable to achieve such to affordability, those gambling using high amount for stake sees nothing bad in doing that, all they were after us the satisfaction in gambling which they will eventually get at the end, they don't mind winning or loosing as well unlike those that have this as a mandate for them to win for their sustainability.


I will say it helps to an extent in this regards for those that already have funds on their casino wallet but i must confess that they would have developed a kind of trust in their casino to have make such deposit because not all casinos can be trusted, many gamblers only put in what they can afford to loose in their casino wallet, know also that there's no amount of deposit you already made to your wallet it will definitely finished and you will need more funds to gamble with time.

The lucky fellows are those who have Bitcoin left in the wallets before this price surge. The mempool lately is messed up with high tx fee and i don't know how long it will take to fix this up. I think the number of withdrawals has increased and the mempool is crowded which in-turn has resulted to such outrageous fees.

Isn't it that currently most online crypto casinos offer various types of crypto that can be used as transaction methods, such as LTC, Doge, and so on at a lower cost.

I think we can have different experiences for online gambling, many online casinos currently don't only use Bitcoin, there are dozens of types of crypto that can offset deposit and withdrawal fees for use by casino users, that's the advantage of playing at a crypto casino.

My experience is certainly there, if you talk about transactions, fees, and so on, I still bet even though Bitcoin fees are expensive, of course, as I mentioned above, methods and other types of crypto a wise choice to do, if Bitcoin costs are high, it's not an obstacle for me to bet.

this not only affects bitcoin gamblers but affects casino campaign signature participants on this forum who pay BTC , I think this will be a problem in bitcoin transactions also on their payments or withdrawing money from the casino, especially if the bitcoin price is in May had such a drastic drop in price that it was hard to hold hot coals in hand, lol

I think why is there a need for an exchange within the casino so that users can look for other alternatives for withdrawal if bitcoin is experiencing a busy network like this, this function actually used to be widely used but no longer, if only this feature was used again it would help the process of withdrawing to other blockchain networks that are more cheap and not busy.  :D

I am taking a break off gambling right now. Two days ago I tried to fund my casino account from my electrum wallet and the transaction fee wasn't funny at all. It was triple of what I was charged a month ago and it took almost forever to get confirmed. And even when it got to my casino wallet, I wasn't in the mood to play any game. My two options right now are one, to take a break or two, use the alternative options that is Ethereum or USDT. I may go for the later but I am not sure yet.

I totally agree with you. Gamblers that have some Bitcoin in their gambling accounts have nothing to worry about as they can easily place their bets on their preferred games without having to through the high transaction deposit fees. The only problem they might encounter is delay of withdrawal if they want to withdraw their winnings. But I would rather not initiate a withdrawal until the mempool is clear off and everything is back to normal.

I have been placing small bets throughout the previous few days, but I haven't done any withdrawal transactions. However, last week when I checked the fees, I also saw that the fees had increased in price.
To lessen our financial load, we should try to convert or even switch to other networks like BNB and USDT. High fees are already a component of the gambling challenge, therefore we have to cope with them. If we are making numerous withdrawals, it would be smarter to make them all at once to reduce the amount of transaction costs we must pay. I concur that it could be wise to take a break for a bit if the dilemma persists.

Well, for those who have some bitcoin left in an exchange, I believe they won't feel the impact of the high transaction fee since they can easily convert their bitcoin to other coins or tokens on some other networks with low transaction fees, example is bsc, trc or solana, I believe the high cost of transaction on the bitcoin chain didn't affect other alternate chains.

For me, haven't gambled for some time now, the high cost of transactions isn't the excuse though, just haven't been lucky for a while, so I decide to take a little break.

One or few days away from gambling won't kill anyone. Better to just wait the fees to return to its normal average price again. There is a lot of speculation going on Bitcoin's blockchain through NFTs and worthless crap tokens, but once it's over the fees will come back to the normal again.

By there you can convert some fiat to altcoins from alternative blockchains to deposit at casinos paying lower fees. But just in case you are really decided to gamble for next days, while Bitcoin's transactions are extremely expensive.

The problem is that nobody knows when a transaction fee will be down, and majority of the gambling websites don't give option of withdrawal except what you choose to deposit with, that means if transaction fees continue to going up that means that many people will quit from gambling, but everyone prayer is for the transaction fee to drop

No one really knows and everything would really be depending on those miners on how fast they would be confirming on each block and of course it would be understandable that
they would be prioritizing into those who had paid up higher and basing up on mempool.space(as of this writing)

No Priority
86 sat/vB
$3.36

Low Priority
407 sat/vB
$15.89

Medium Priority
449 sat/vB
$17.53

High Priority
501 sat/vB
$19.56

I couldnt really afford on paying up those fees when i do gamble specially when im not really that a whale or does have tons of money.,
I do usually spend up $30 when it comes gambling and paying up that huge fee would really just that make a huge cut or slice on my capital.

I'm also on break.
"ith these fees it is really difficult to be able to make deposits (for example I like to bet live but at the same time keep the coins in my wallet).
will this be the right time for the major crypto bookmakers and casinos to decide to use LN in order to manage both withdrawals and deposits??

It is so sad that the mempool is full every hour with large numbers of uncomfirmed transactions when halving is not here yet and this is getting out of hand, the miners are not even giving any priority to lesser fees with low priority or maybe I'm part of the people who don't get lucky yet to get my transactions to verify, and what I don't understand with the mempool this time around is that, in the night and weekends, they are usually lower but yesterday been Sunday was different, the fees were higher and the night was even worse, this made me think these BRC20 tokens are nonsense spams and ddos attack on the bitcoin network.

There is always an alternative, I still used Tron with USDT deposit, they are also slightly higher now since people are using them now as an alternative since the Bitcoin network becomes congested but they are manageable compared to Bitcoin.

I usually do not suffer from this high fee problem because I usually do not withdraw full dollars from my casino and gambling site wallet and I withdraw dollars from my casino and gambling site wallet every week or every 15 days. One of my important things is that when I bet, I don't bet full dollars. If I bet with full dollars and lose the bet then all my dollars will be lost and my casino and gambling site wallet dollars will be empty. So I bet partially when I bet.
Also the gas fees are huge now so for now I will refrain from withdrawing dollars from my wallet and when the transaction fees are much lower I will withdraw bitcoins from the wallet.

Yes, a lot of people are angry about such high commissions. I can't afford to send money from one of my wallets to another for a few days already. Not to mention gambling. Ethereum network as well as Bitcoin network is experiencing congestion and I don't want to pay such high commissions. I hope in few days commissions will come back to normal and we will all be happy again, or we all will have to move to cheaper networks like Solana.

This is a good question. I was going to send some more bitcoin to my gambling account, but the fact that the pool is so full and transactions are so expensive right now, I am stuck with what I've already got loaded in my account. 

Sure I could send with a higher fee and get it to my wallet in time for the Lakers Golden State game tonight, but I never bet enough to make that worth it's while.  So...I shall send with a low fee here sometime today with no rush, getting myself ready for the upcoming late week/weekend.

With the Bitcoin fees continuing to rise, the only gamblers I see that can take those hits would be the high rollers. The alternative would be to take advantage of crypto casinos that have instant deposits but it's better to hold off any plans to deposit since a lot of transactions that used low fees are getting rejected. We can only hope that it doesn't last long because if we see the same fees for more than a few weeks then casinos might have to bump their fees as well.

Yes currently the transaction fees is damn high. If you want to do a small transaction, then you have to pay a large amount of transaction fees for it. Thank God, I always use to store some funds in the casino where I play the most. But to be honest yesterday there was an one-sided match where i wanted to bet more, but was restricted to deposit as the fees were very high. Nevertheless i am waiting for everything to be back to normal very soon, so that we can deposit and bet high on these easy games.

These lastest days I have been quite busy so I have had no time to log in and roll dices on Stake, so for now I have not dealt with this horrible high fee drama yet. If I wanted to deposit in any casino, it would be a different story, though.

I am mostly a casual and small gambler who would not deposit more than 10$ in Bitcoin at the time, which unfortunately means that it could not do it, if I wanted to.  :(

While I agree that moving to lighter chains for now it is a good enough solution, it is quite painful to see the Bitcoin network being artificially disabled this way by spam...

Same here. Having just $100 worth of BTC means half of it is meant for withdrawal fee. LN didn't help at all in this kind of attack to BTC. Its only good if you don't withdraw at all and just store your funds until the congestion calm down.

Its releiving for someone who are just using TRX as price seem stable right now. I bought TRX to send to a casino already.

Right, I am expecting to see a surge of gamblers stopping the use of Bitcoin to their deposits and withdrawals to move onto Litecoin, Tron and even second layer solutions for Bitcoin like LN.

Don't you mind me to ask what is the situation on the casinos in general with the withdrawval fees? The casinos you use have decided to increase the fees or keep it the same?

I personally believe that casinos should try to do the same as exchanges and accumulate withdrawal requests so they can carry it all with a single transacction, I am not sure how attractive that would be, though. It would imply to make gamblers wait for their money, specially if the volume of the casino is relatively small.

In this that I am always ready , the reason why I keep funds inside my favorite gambling site Like Duelbits and Roobet because of cases like this.
actually I maintained my gambling expenses each time and only withdrawing when I win , so there will still balance in my account each time.
Now I can simply play  without having troubles in depositing , and in withdrawing ? I will simply need to convert my Bitcoin into other coins before taking it out..

This is the time when you really appreciate the roles of altcoins in gambling. The likes of Dogecoin (Doge) and Litecoin (LTC) and stablecoins are great options especially when spending relatively small amounts for gambling. I feel like we are going back in time with this rising Bitcoin fees. We're moving backwards. We're brought back to the time when the strongest argument against Bitcoin is its fees. Now it is still the same, if not worse, thanks to Ordinals.

Indeed. If you still want to gamble but high fees of Bitcoin are hurting your funds, don't fret because many casinos are accepting altcoins for deposit/withdrawal with low fees. Hence, this is not a problem at all, you can still gamble anytime you want by using altcoins of your choice.

In my case, it's been a while since I last play. Good thing I checked my email because 2 casinos where I (often gamble before) sent me a promotional bonus (free spins and free chips) that I can use to play again on their sites. It's their way to attract me back on playing so I'll grab this offer while Bitcoin fees are quite high.

Agreed to this. The only reason why many gamblers here preferred using Bitcoin over altcoins before this NFT on ordinal is because most of the gamblers here are using their signature earnings which is on Bitcoin to directly deposit it to the casino rather than converting it first to altcoins.

I believe casino that have a built-in exchange on it is in demand right now since most of the gamblers that have Bitcoin on their wallet can convert their asset to altcoins when they withdraw out of the casino.

Luckily, those who receive payments from the signature campaign directly in their casino account so they can immediately play when the money has been credited to our account, but what will still be a problem is when we have to make a withdrawal unless the casino allows players to make withdrawals with any coins available as an option at the casino.

At duelbits casino players can make withdrawals with coins that are different from their coin deposits, but not all casinos allow this unless there is an exchange feature. I'm lucky enough to still have funds on one of the sports betting websites so I can still bet, especially on the big matches that will be held today, because it sucks when we can't bet on big match or play just because of huge network fees while we only have BTC in our wallet.

I think both Ethereum and Bitcoin transaction is getting too costly. Its sickening. I think best options out there to use Tron mainly and/or bnb. These are safer ways. (Its funny Tron has only one use case in later months and its this, another topic). I think crypto casinos should incentivize depositing more amount of money. That would mean they would make more money, they would cut losses of their customers and they would help Bitcoin network to relax. I see no other way.

I had long time swapped from using Bitcoin transactions to binance, quidax and BNB, I still wonder why a lot of persons still use Bitcoin even with the high charge, and come to think of it, what could be the reason for this increase in transactions charge

just got the answers I needed, Bitcoin is having a difficult time because of the congestion- so many persons are trying to access the platform and thereby causing delay in transactions and making the charges higher than usual

Avoid using Bitcoin to gamble for now, unless the gambling platform supports Bitcoin Lightening Network which is rare, even only limited numbers of crypto exchanges supports deposit and withdrawal of Lightening Bitcoin, now it's time to move back to Tron Network or Lite coin, I am sure that majority of those online gambling platforms supports more than just Bitcoin and Ethereum deposits so do your own research on your favorite online gambling platforms first.

There are some new gambling platform that only accepts Bitcoin and Ethereum deposits for gambling on their platforms, if there are no big gamblers on there platform they will feel the heat of less activity, a smart casino will have add more payment options from now on.

We are not even in a bull market yet and transaction fee has gotten this high, I wasn't expecting this costly fee from Bitcoin this sooner, it's almost the same thing with Ethereum and it's sickening.

I've checked the transfer high priority and suggestion by my wallet and that's around $19, dude that is like higher than what I'm about to send. I have to stop all my necessary transfers since they'll be fine if I wouldn't do it for now. Hoping that by tomorrow things will be good and these fees will have to lie low, good thing my campaign will just have to credit it to our accounts and we've got a choice to gamble if ever we want to.
But for most, I can feel the pain of having to endure all of those transfer fees because if you have no choice and you want to gamble by transferring bitcoin, you have to do it. Unless you'll choose to deposit with altcoins that are not affected with these fees.

People use bitcoin usually because they want to invest to save their money in their wallet, the network problem is jammed if I'm not mistaken because there is a buildup of transactions from the BRC 20 trend and the coin meme is also pepe, just look at the ethereum network it's also the same when coin pepe lots of fomo comes gas fees for ethereum transactions are also increasing, that's what bitcoin lacked until now when the network is busy and many transactions are pending it will take time for it to complete. so it's best to stop to make transactions to help solve everything.

To be honest, I'm also a little worried about withdrawing my bitcoin from the casino because the site hasn't fully regulated high transaction fees so if they still use low transaction fees then my transaction will be delayed and stuck until it's confirmed by the network, so it's best to avoid bitcoin transactions at this time. the way to be confirmed quickly is to use high fees because that's the only way our money is confirmed by the network.

I have no issue at all I've been using altcoins like Doge, Trx, and USDT on casinos I'm playing, there's no logic in using Bitcoin at this point in time, its like losing a big portion of your deposit just to play when other altcoins can offer fees lower than $1, this is the reason why casinos accept altcoins so gamblers will have a lot of options so they can continue to play, without thinking of the high fees.
High fees stop the flow of money for casinos if Bitcoin is the only option for deposit.

Good for you though but this current crisis is not a new case for me as I have experience similar case of fee rise but on this preference it was fiat currency related. As of early this year, there was shortage of cash flow in my nation which lead to high increment of fee for withdrawal of cash by local terminals and this restricted and folded  a lot  of business and throughout this period fiat related casino were closing down due to the high fee and this prevented so many folks from gambling on physical casino and this time around same similar issue has come up with bitcoin and for three days now I have not gamble because of the high fee attached to the actual payment and am not ready to waste any coin just to bet on a game that's still under probability of winning and losing so I rather gamble localy for the being till the storm dies down.

Still have some deposits for the month based on last month's budget but I will not pay these high fees if it is exhausted. The issue is that I am not comfortable using other coins apart from Bitcoin for my crypto stake. I have decided to halt all comes of Bitcoin transactions until this attack is over. It is quite painful but I have to decide to avoid spending more than my budget. This issue will affect the finance of some gambling firms but they can give clients other reliable transaction option. Some of my friends are suggesting I switch to a fiat gambling site but I also have to weigh my options. Nevertheless, my earnest desire is that this issue be testified as soon as possible.

most of the gamblers nowadays prefer to use other coins to be able to gamble to avoid traffic jams and high transaction fees, especially for small gamblers. surely small gamblers and big gamblers will reconsider making deposits using bitcoin when transaction fees are very high and gambling platforms understand this problem so they add several other types of coins to avoid problems like this.
a lot of gamblers nowadays who are moving to other coins to stay afloat can gamble in crypto casinos.

I highly doubt that it will return to normal in a matter of days; if you look at the mempool and look at some transactions, you'll notice that some transactions are worth nothing, which means that there are some people out there who are deliberately sending dust and spamming the network, which has resulted in the current network congestion, and it's very unlikely that they'll stop this barbaric act anytime soon.

As for Op, as I previously stated, it is best if we switch to a widely accepted altcoin for the time being, and then return to our beloved BTC once the situation has stabilized.

It looks like it's time to see altcoins being able to become popular again after the cost of bitcoin has skyrocketed. Maybe we will see a lot of altcoins on the list of every casino will grow because many gamblers are switching from using bitcoins for betting to preferring altcoins.

In this case, altcoins provide convenience for those who gamble because users can choose coins with transaction fees that are not too large. Yes, I also chose to use LTC or stablecoins to bet later after checking the bitcoin transaction fees.

That's the only way for us to still be able to gamble. We need to shift to another coin that is more stable because with what is happening to Bitcoin now, it may affect the overall crypto market, which could be bad for our crypto assets that are not stable. Looking at the price of Bitcoin, it's already dropping. Earlier, it was at $30k, but we weren't able to maintain that price, and we might see more downtrend in the days or weeks to come.

So in my case, I'm using USDT and XRP. At least with these, I will be able to save on the high fees of Bitcoin and transactions will be fast to confirm.

You have easily made the decision to not gamble for the now with cryptocurrency because you are not a gambler with a problem about control. You have easily accepted the situation but it is not the same for some other people who are struggling with it and know that even though they have decided to stay away from gambling for the now, they don't know how long that they will be able to stick to their decision without just saying "f*ck sh*t, I need to gamble, and then go ahead to fund their accounts to gamble with, not minding the fee again.

You will be surprised how many persons still fund their gambling account not caring about the transaction fee because they have the money to do so, and cannot wait. These persons are already exhibiting signs of problem gamblers.

They will be happy yes, but will be thinking about when they exhaust the money there and if the situation will remain the same.

Not a good idea to deal up with bitcoin since the fee is so high and we cannot be so sure the transaction speed since its also hard to get stuck while we really want to play the game immediately. Maybe its time to look for better alternative and litecoin is better option for this, they could also find other alts which offer more convenience to their user so that there will be no problem if the same issue with bitcoin will occur in future.

The high transaction fee currently in bitcoin network due to high congestion will affect allots of gambling platforms, am confident that lots of people will spot gambling with bitcoin, because it’s won’t really be funny spending that amount of money just because you want to deposit money into your gambling account. Some people are going to divert into altcoin, most people will take a break by depositing bitcoin, they will be depositing altcoin.

Am still gambling, but I deposited some amounts of money few weeks, I haven’t made any withdrawal from the money recently, even whenever I win, I keep on leaving the money in my wallet, that’s what am gambling with recently, but incase if I lose big, then I might take a break from gambling till the bitcoin network becomes less congested. I can’t spend that amount on gas fee and there is no assurance that am going to win after depositing.

Those people that do leave money in accounts are free but am sure it might still affect some of them sooner or later, because nobody knows when the transaction fee will reduce, if the amount they left in their gambling account get finished, some of them might find it difficult to deposit another amount back to their gambling site. But am sure people that are addicted to gambling will still deposit their money even with the high transaction fee issues.

My current experience now in gambling is that I always play online in many different gambling games such as pokers, lucky 9 and also what we called "sabong". Same thing always is not that I'm greedy when I'm winning, I always win $200 in a day but in just days passed I would also lose $200. So right now I don't have a big time winnings so I would try to give myself a limit when to stop. But it's fun all good, the risk and the thrill it gives which makes me play more gambling of course not spending all my funds.

We may have no choice but to use altcoins, as even high transaction fees for bitcoin transactions don't guarantee quick confirmation. Fortunately, we have many options available, and gambling sites have already prepared to address this issue by adding more payment methods. The gambling sites I use have a variety of altcoin options, so gambling isn't really a problem nowadays, unless you're using funds from your bitcoin wallet.

Having alternate coins or tokens become useful in these kinds of situations, because if you have only Bitcoins and the fees go this high all of a sudden, you will have no option but to postpone almost everything that might require money, just like gambling, if you have altcoins, you can probably continue your activities with them until things normalize.

Such times make us realize how crucial it is to diversify our portfolios since we can be in need of any other coin when we face problems with transaction fees or any other issues that might occur unexpectedly.

The topic here is not all about the title itself. It’s related to the current state of Bitcoin mempool which affects the transaction of gambling activities due to the high fees. I’m familiar to the game that you mention and most of the casino that offering these games is using fiat or their own coin that convertible to fiat.

Answering to your topic, it’s normal to feel that kind of breakeven because you don’t have much attachment to your profit that is why its easy for you to risk it without taking cautious on your bet. Gambling will surely drained your funds if you consistently doing it because casino has unlimited funds while you have limited bankroll. The house edge will give casino an advantage that is why we always lose when we won because we keep coming back for more.e

Gambling is something that we need to have different options so that we be able to mix things and make it easy for us to execute.
The problem of high fee especially on Bitcoin network and Tron network is quite annoying and I wondered how long this will take us for everything to come back to normal. If this persist, I think many of the crypto casinos would have to seek for other options that would make work easier for them. There will be need to open other options for gamblers to make deposit with other cryptocurrenies so that will not halt gambling activities.

Well every gambler will always be like that when they win, I'm also not a hypocrite because very often when I win suddenly a greedy nature appears wanting to win even more using the strategy or pattern used before, so the casino seems to read the way I play gambling I usually get beaten again according to my previous win, it gain nothing for me but experience for fun only.

All gamblers have the same experience, sometimes this greedy nature is difficult for all gamblers to get rid of, if this can be eliminated it will be easy to get consistent wins even if you can't even maintain consistency, that's why losing is a common experience for many gamblers, it's not strange heard that if you win $200 today then tomorrow lose your previous winnings even more.

This is a gamble within a gamble and as funny as it may sound only those with lots of money or those who cannot delay gratification that will go ahead to try this. "What ifs" being replaced by "What if not".

I already lucky I leave funds in my casino wallet so, it has been as if nothing has been happening. I do not even think that this is a problem because casinos has already made it easy by having multiple options other than bitcoin. Any of the numerous altcoins so gambling continues smoothly. Whew... altcoins to the rescue.

I'm not sure you got what Op said.

The question in the title, "How's your gambling experience right now?" Does not literally mean how you have been betting, your betting strategy, or the stats of both your wins and losses.
He's curious how we've been dealing with the ongoing bitcoin network congestion, whether we're still making deposits with our BTC or if we've decided to switch to another altcoin that's accepted in our casinos.

I get that the title can be misleading if you don't the whole contest of the Op.

Annoying to the fact that we cannot use bitcoin directly just like what we used to do. The high fees is really not good since we need to convert on another altcoin just to make our transfer to the casino succeed, imagine the hassle with this and we don't have a choice but to do it since we used to gamble on everyday. But let see on ongoing development if the issue will be solve since for sure many want to see bitcoin goes back to normal.

I'm currently focused on some match ups in NBA right now and somehow, result is breakeven. Having a hard time to hit parlays and winning teams but will probably be sticking to my biases. If it is general experience, I'd say sportsbetting made me enjoy gambling the most in comparison to other games I used to play such as roulettes, dice, and card games. With regards to my losses, nothing much if I calculated it correctly. Something helped me to do it properly is to limit the amount I am betting in each day which also helped me to enjoy playing,responsibly. What makes this industry stressful is ofcourse losses, but since it is more often the outcome, I think players should be the one to make the adjustment.

Maybe now we can switch to using altcoins for gambling because the costs are still high. And we also don't know whether if we keep using bitcoin it will run smoothly or whether it will get stuck in the network. It's better if we avoid it for a while or maybe rest a bit while waiting for the network to recover. Those are the only two solutions I can see right now, except if we already have balances at multiple casinos, it will make it easier for us not to deposit any more money into them.

This is the advantage of playing gambling at crypto casinos because we can use many altcoins in cases of increased transaction fees that we don't know how long they will subside. We can only hope that the transaction fees will return to normal so that those used to using bitcoins for gambling will not feel like they are now. Casinos now provide support to users by providing many altcoins to gamble with.

It is hard not to gamble these days since we have the NBA playoffs and other sports events. So most of us continue to gamble mate whether bitcoin fees are high or low. Most online casinos now accept not just bitcoin but altcoins like ethereum and stable coins like the usdt. There are also more altcoins that have very low gas fees. USDT is a good choice since Binance chain has very low fees and at least we are also using a stable coin that will be unaffected by the large swings in the crypto market.   

You should just avoid depositing any coins for the time being while the fees are high.
These will get back to normal once the network congestion is decreased.
It's good to have some coins lying around on the site but I know that being a gambler we tend to gamble away the last penny in our account.
So lets just take a break for the time being and enjoy some fresh outside instead.

I'm still gambling and that's because I have some funds left in my account, I don't mind keeping them there because they help in situations like what we're experiencing now. I believe this will be over very soon though as it isn't the first time it happened.

When keeping money on casino wallets, you don't have to keep everything you made as profit but just some few amount so you can have money for quick bets. Also when choosing a casino to use always comfirm if they have other deposit options.

Casino that has USDT deposit option will be functioning properly. This high fees isn't just affecting only casino but also exchanges and any service that rely on Bitcoin blockchain to receive coins since Bitcoin is one of the most used cryptocurency.

It seems to me that if the problem with high commissions in Bitcoin network is not solved, the use of the first cryptocurrency will significantly reduce not only in casinos, but also in payments and transfers. In fact, Bitcoin has long ceased to be cheap to use for the average person, as Satoshi Nakamoto wanted. And after a tenfold increase in fees, it already seems like a pipe dream. I wonder how events will develop further.

This is why it's important to have more than one asset all the time. Those who have funds in their casino accounts and those who have other cryptocurrencies apart from Bitcoin are not going to face any issues in such a situation. You could easily deposit a different asset to your gambling account and played with that.

I personally don't gamble much, so I can definitely wait for all this to become normal before I gamble if I ever wanted to. Others will obviously use the method that I mentioned above, using different cryptocurrencies for their gambling deposits and withdrawals.

This is the time Casinos and Sportbook should implement internal swap function to allow players swap there coins from one coin to another, what is the point of winning in BTC and you are only allow to withdraw Bitcoin, they should allow people used other options of coins, atleast they are doing their self a favour for having more BTC since players wouldn't be interested on withdrawing BTC and I think that what Casinos even desire the most because it is very profitable for them.


Since most players prefer Bitcoin as native deposit for gambling, they can also built-in lightening network like the way exchanges are trying to do now, it will not only help players enjoy fees, it will serve as a marketing strategy to draw more gamblers into their platform if they have good reputations and doesn't cheat players.

I remember that Stake  does have this function on which there's an internal swap or even of FJ i cant remember on which it is really that good to have, but with having those legal issues which its been attaching about KYC then its been removed. Well, its not really that something a huge issue because most of gambling sites now does have lots of coin options which you could deposit and make withdrawals if ever you do pull out some winnings. Its not necessarily that you would really be converting it back to Bitcoin yet you could simply ask out a particular coin to be withdrawn directly into your non custodial wallet or whatever you do have.
Now is indeed a bad time on making some Bitcoin based type of gambling where you would be making or needing to pay up some huge fees before you could be able to get that fast confirmation on tx
but we know that not all would really be able to afford or cant really deal up with those high fees but luckily we are really that having lots of coin options which it
could really be able to solve out on what you are problematic on.

I didn't even notice it early enough since I'm not down on gambling my funds.., but I noticed that when I ran a txn on my campaign earnings and I was charged so high that I thought I had altered something on my TW address or so... After some proper scrunity, I discovered that the dollar value had risen high too, which is prolly the reasons for the incessant increments.
I would say ...alot are still coping even with the fees; mostly the ones that had 'em funds HODLed in there already. Does this really mean casinos won't be having alot of turn-ups like ever before? Cus helllllll...!! Everyone is damn affected with this.

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I don't gamble much these days, but I have seen a spike in transaction fees as a result of the Bitcoin mempool congestion. I agree that migrating to another network and transacting with another cryptocurrency asset will be extremely beneficial.
We've seen this scenario before, and we should be prepared to deal with it, especially if we're into gambling and frequently make withdrawal and deposit transactions. The use of other major altcoins will be our way out of this transaction fee battle.

^Definitely right and the reason I always prefer a casino that has an alternative deposit option.
Many other major altcoins offer lower fees and faster transaction times than BTC, which can make them a more viable option for frequent gambling transactions. In fact, if you notice that during high fees of BTC, altcoins will follow too, high fees are not unique to BTC and other cryptocurrencies can experience similar issues during periods of high demand. No chose, either to take a break or use your fiat instead.

If we do play only on a casino or gambling site which does have only that single option which is Bitcoin then we dont have no choice but to wait up until the transaction would confirm but its up to ours
because we could have some options.

1. Dont play and wait for the network to be find
2. Do tend to play on other site with other altcoin option
3. Accepting current bitcoin fees and go loyal with the site you do like

Just like on what others been saying above that most gambling sites now does have multiple deposit choices or options on which it isnt
really just accepting Bitcoin but also in other top ranking altcoins as well which would ease up the current problem that we are facing.

This should not be one of the reason why you decided not to make bet again because I think we still have the options to make use of other tokens or coins for deposit and withdrawal. Although the sudden spike in the price of Bitcoin had affected so many trades and transactions and we are still hoping that the price of gas fee is going to change soon. I can't just imagine paying exorbitant amount of money for gas fee for just small about of transaction. This could be one of the reasons why so persons decided to put an halt to any of there Bitcoin transactions.

Not touching any Bitcoin-related deposits in the meantime, regardless of the service for an obvious reason. Although there's an alternative aside from bitcoin deposit depending on the supported cryptocurrencies of the said site.

As for my gambling activity, I'm currently spending more time on fiat-based online casinos since I hooked up at some popular game providers there such as Jilli, PG, KA, BNG, and BP games. There are also providers there that we can see in crypto-gambling sites such as Play And Go and Yggdrasil.

I'm looking forward that my favorite crypto-game slot provider, Thunderpick will soon touch fiat online casinos, or to be specific, here in our local.

I do think that most of us here might have hesitation to gamble with Bitcoin for now. But generally, I don't see why the current high fees in Bitcoin transactions should affect most crypto-gamblers, referring to die-hard crypto-gamblers. As per the popular gambling-related saying, a gambler will stay a gambler no matter what, and crypto-gambling enthusiasts, they might use other coins aside from Bitcoin to keep them in motion. Other crypto-gamblers also already have some ways to deal with the current situation.

However, the current situation is not good for casual or small gamblers. They have no choice but to face the current fees higher than usual if they really intend to play gambling with the use of Bitcoin or else just refrain from doing Bitcoin gambling for now.

In my opinion it is better to use other currencies instead of just gambling with bitcoin crypto gamblers should have experience with all currencies. Crypto casinos only accept a few major cryptocurrencies, including bitcoin. For a casino to qualify as a bitcoin casino, it must not only accept bitcoin, but also Litecoin, Ethereum and Bitcoin Cash. Withdrawing your winnings from a bitcoin casino is easy, but it's important to understand that you'll need a crypto wallet to do so these transactions work just like making a deposit.

My gambling experience is going fine because the casinos I use have different options of coins you can use for gambling, I am ignoring Bitcoin for gambling right now and I am not ready to pay a 20$ gas fee for gambling, that 20$ is enough for my daily gambling trials. Ethereum is still fair right now and I do hope that Bitcoin devs cancel Ordinals, I know many won't want to see this happen but it's for the greater good, some are saying that Bitcoin could fork again because of Ordinals, what do you think 💭 is this possible?

Recently transaction fee in cryptocasino is an important issue, especially since Bitcoin network congestion will make it difficult for many gamblers to spend as much money. So they will definitely change their deposit method at the moment. In particular, there are some coins that are used for less fees. And considering the fee, I think TRX will play a bigger role at this time. The tendency of gamblers to use these coins will increase a lot. There are also others deposits method like meme coins used in many platforms. But for those who don't want to take any risk, there is no alternative to stablecoins. In that case USDT is more popular with them.

Yes, and it's good that in the last couple of years, casinos are now offering a lot of deposits, unlike before, the old days, wherein it was just pure bitcoin address and that's it. I have experience depositing ETH but I do like USDT (trc) because it's fast.

Regarding the network congestion though, yeah, it's bad that something like this has to happen to us. This is similar to 2017 spam attack, but I think this is worse because there are entities that are incentivizing here, and it's a direct attack to bitcoin, in my opinion.

The current price spike of transaction fees makes me wondering about stopping to gamble for a while since its really not good to pay such huge fees since at first we decide to deposit we already lose since we need to pay some huge fees just to make our deposit credit faster on our casino wallets. But also I'm seeking for alternatives since I use to gamble for short time everyday and want to continue to place my bet while Nba Playoffs still rolling.

It could happen, but better to wait for further news. In the meantime, I've chosen not to gamble for now, although there is an option to use altcoins to continue gambling, but that doesn't seem like a wise move to me. Also, with the drop in altcoin prices right now, it means I have to use more and more, so that will reduce the amount I have.

After all, there's nothing wrong with stopping and staying away from gambling until things get back to normal. And maybe we can use this rest time to do other things that might be more useful for us.

Expensive transaction fees have basically made some gamblers reluctant to use bitcoin as currency in casinos. The flow of bitcoin in and out at casinos is currently probably down and at the same time there is a good increase in altcoin where transaction fees are lower. Situations like this have happened a few times during the transaction fee increase, but to be honest I would just think that the spam mempool this time was the worst.

Another option in the meantime is taking a break if gamblers aren't interested in using coins that have lower fees than bitcoin. I think the user's gambling interest will still be the same, but maybe in a different currency.

Not me obviously. I took a rest on gambling for a while now even when the fees are still relatively manageable. Tanked a nasty loss which caused to me rethink life and touch grass again. I can see this transaction fee situation with bitcoin being a good reason why there's an expected decline in the gambling industry, at least in its overall usage. Worst comes to worse this may even kick bitcoin out of the options for payment and gambling. Hopefully it doesn't but I can see it happening if the situation doesn't get better. All in all, for those who aren't big on gambling, especially the ones who take mini-bets like me every now and again. I actually urge you guys to touch grass and invest this time to your friends and families. They'll thank you.

Not everyone is a fan of using other crypto but the truth is that your advice is simply the best but its rather limited as some gambling platform are strictly based on bitcoin as a deposit coin and if you are one of those using these casino it will definitely affect you when trying to deposit. But aside from that making deposit with other crypto to your gambling casino is probably an effective measure towards tackling this high price hike.

Well, you can still gamble with altcoins using the same amount of fiat you were using before. The difference is that now you will acquire more coins with the same amount of fiat you were used to use before. The bright side is that when you receive your weekly payment from signature campaign, you will receive more coins, so it compensates the extra coins you have to use for now from your currently portfolio, if that is the case.

And if you are worried about the market's volatility during these days, you can exchange your altcoins back to fiat, as soon as your gambling's session ends on the same day.

This is a situation where people who hold multiple cryptocurrencies will be on the positive side since they won't need to make Bitcoin transactions paying such high fees, and those who might have Bitcoins at exchanges and they can pretty easily convert them to another cryptocurrency and use that to deposit into their gambling accounts.

Almost every single gambling platform these days have multiple deposit and withdrawal options, so one shouldn't have any issues if they already have altcoins since they can easily deposit them and continue their gambling activities.

For those people who had been holding several altcoins into their wallets specially doge or even XRP or even those common listed on gambling casinos would really be having the advantage because they would really be able to play at ease or having no problems about fees just because they could easily switch up on those coins to be deposited without  minding about those huge transaction fees as of this moment.

But if you are that some sort of whale or huge wagerer on which $20 almost fee on Bitcoin wont really be that much of a problem but for those people who do only have small amounts to gamble then
pretty sure that this kind of situation would really be putting us some on doubt or hesitance on doing such  transaction which its never been that good to have that huge slice because of fees.

Right now, ive been using DOGE on my gambling activity on which it didnt really cut out that kind of leisure seeking thing but if you do really get used to on using up BTC
then you would really be having that feeling on being not that contented. You know what i mean.

Transasctions fees are slowly been going to normalize now and lets just give up some ample time before anything would come back to normal.

https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/
https://privacypros.io/tools/bitcoin-fee-estimator/

Sitting around 60 sats/byte as of this writing.
If you are still that hesitant on using or spending up fees 2-3 bucks on fees then you could still always have the option to wait
but of course you would be needing to sit and relax but we know that casinos now does have lots of deposit/withdrawal options which its
never been that a huge issue nowadays if ever there would be sudden influx of fees.

I'm hoping that it will go lower before the weekend for us to transact normally again, it's unbearable to accept the fee eats up a big portion of your transaction, I have a friend who loses a lot because of his urgent needs he only has Bitcoin and he needs money very urgent, sometimes in this kind of situation altcoins is a big help so its better to always include altcoins in your portfolio when this situation arises.
I'm sure because of this situation many gamblers opted to play with altcoins and delay their withdrawal until the network congestion eases up.

Well, there can be a few platforms that only allow Bitcoin deposits and withdrawals, but I think most of the platforms these days allow depositing and withdrawing multiple cryptocurrencies and fiats too, so someone can even buy credits to gamble with a credit or debit card if they are not having any other cryptocurrency at the moment.

And if someone uses a platform that only allows Bitcoin deposits and withdrawals and they don't want to use any other platform, they should simply wait for the fees to get normal then as that seems to be the only viable solution unless they want to spend a lot of money on fees.

Yes, hopefully our hopes can actually be achieved where Bitcoin transaction fees will soon be lower like some time ago.
Two days ago I made a Bitcoin withdrawal transaction with an amount that was not too much but the fee was very unreasonable because I had to pay twice the fee when withdrawing it from the gambling site and the second withdrawal from the Crypto exchange that I used.
My concern is not about fees but about transaction processing time which is getting slower if this situation continues.
I don't know what to do, but we can only hope that everything will return to normal soon and there are no problems with fees or transaction processing time on Bitcoin.

I could gamble using the same amount of fiat using the altcoin but for the amount of coins, it would be more than when altcoin prices were at high prices. And of course it will reduce the number of my coins if I decide to use an altcoin where if the price of the coin goes up, the profit I get is not as big as if I still hold it. That's why I still refrain from gambling at times like these because, with bitcoin transaction fees still high, it would be unwise for me to decide still to gamble. Maybe next week or maybe next month, the transaction fees can decrease, or at least after this commotion ends.

To many hopeful bitcoin users want to see bitcoin goes back to normal since its really a huge barricade for us to transact while we experiencing this kind of delays and 2 of my transaction still stuck since network still in bad shape. Hopefully we can see all of this issues solve so that transaction using bitcoin will be easy for us since not good in terms of our investment if we pay huge fees for each transactions we made. For now the only solution we can do is to transact using alts since this alternative is working fine at the moment.

I just do my transactions as early as possible these recent days. When I see that my balance is starting to get lower every bet then I am already making my transactions a day before. Set the fees at a low cost even if it will take 6-12 hours then I won't be stressed by this traffic that had been happening in the Bitcoin chain. Then, I will just try to push my transactions to the free broadcasting sites.

That's all the solution I could see for now especially those who are used to betting with Bitcoin instead of other cryptocurrencies. I can't choose Ethereum either, their damn fees are also high and I don't want to spend some time exchanging to BNB either as I am a bit lazy doing that.  :D
Then, I will just try to push my transactions to the free broadcasting sites.
As for withdrawals, I was afraid Stake.com will change their fees, the good part is they are using a pool.

This is what hurts our bangs, it's the kind of thing we need but we have no choice but to accept the fees that will be deducted from us because we use bitcoin and there are no other altcoins.
Even if we don't want to, but we can't because it's our family that will be affected if we don't do it. But now it's down somehow, I hope the bitcoin developers will do it this way so that everyone can be happy again.

The current transaction fee is only worth 1.98$ for the high priority in contrary to the fees when I open this thread. The current is already acceptable for gambler like me since we use fee a little bit above the purging level to have a discount on the fee.

For those not aware that transaction fee is already back to normal. Please refer to the mempool.space or the image below for the actual fees as of this post written.

https://i.imgur.com/PUA7ibL.jpg

I will lock now the thread because the fees is already back to normal. The thread doesn’t serve its purpose already and I might open this again once high transaction fee persist. Thanks to all who contributed for the discussion.