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Hi guys!
I have come across a topic here that emphasized on the need to disclose one's Bitcoin dealings and seed phrase to his/her spouse incase something bad and unexpected like death comes knocking on the door, the husband or wife can have access to the funds and claim it.

Well... This story is quite different. A husband hid his crypto assets from his wife amid divorce saga, the wife had her suspicion, then hired a forensic expert who found out that during the splitting of the property, the husband failed to declared his 12 BTC stashed somewhere in an undisclosed wallet. She's now asking that the Bitcoin be splitted into two.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/05/20/bitcoin-in-divorce-how-spouses-hide-assets-crypto-hunters-find-them.html

Looks like some of the married folks are getting smarter... They don't want to be left in the dark, but are going out to get it themselves through crypto hunters. What's your thoughts on this?

There are rules in place in various countries where the wife gets half of the husband's property in case of divorce. As a result, many couples get divorced due to the greed of money. 

Recently, this happened in the case of Achraf Hakimi, who played in the left-back position of PSG. After a long marriage, Achraf Hakimi's wife complained against him that he beat his wife a lot. According to the source, Achraf Hakimi's wife decided to divorce and according to that decision, the court said. When this order was made to give half of Achraf Hakimi's assets to his wife, the court observed that Achraf Hakimi had no money in his account and all the money was in his mother's account. As per divorce rules, since there is no money in his account, no matter how much money is in his mother's account, his wife will not get any money due to divorce. 

But today I heard through you about converting your account money to Bitcoin due to divorce. This incident is really interesting to me and those who are about to get divorced if they read this news they will see that they are also adopting this method.

What proof is there that the 12 BTC belongs to the woman's husband? Maybe it was his mother who asked him to buy and leave for storage. :) And then, by what right can this woman claim this money.

There is another point: undisclosed wallet was not found, which means that there is no evidence of hiding these 12 BTC. No wallet - there will be no division in half.

The husband can also return this wallet to his mother - the rightful owner of these bitcoins, which again leaves the greedy wife with nothing.

If you buy a bitcoin, store it in private manner, no other people can know where you store it.

Per law, any asset is bought during your marriage time will be considered as co-owned by you and your wife (or husband). It should be split in divorce case.

Morally that husband made a bad thing as he wanted to hide and steal that money from his wife. I don't support it and I feel happy that the wife detected it by herself. If that man stored his bitcoin not too good, safely and secretly enough, his coins can be detected by his wife as we knew but can be found by other people in his family too.

In this case, are they really smart or wise? If they do not completely trust each other, they still go to marriage and, as a result, have to go to court and doubt each other until the end. If you think they're smart, your marriage will be just like them. My wife and I always share everything with each other, if one of us intends to hide from each other, we will never be able to love each other until now.

I wouldn't blame the man here for doing such and i wouldn't also want to interfere to the matter that arises for the separation of them both, but in dealing with bitcoin, we can see that it's a currency that is decentralized which means only the person owing bitcoin can have access to his asset without any third party knowing about it, if he thinks he trust and love his wife or children, he may decided to share his keys with them or let them know that he's having a bitcoin investment.

As long as he's not using a centralized exchange, they can't apprehend him or know about his bitcoin investment except he once told his wife or she already knew he is into bitcoin, if the court knows he has an asset in bitcoin, they can't do anything to force the man share it into two because they have no evidence that he has such, bitcoin is a p2p network except the man is willing to give her from his bitcoin investment.


The conclusion here is for everyone to know what he's doing, know whom you're married to and know how to secure your privacy incase of situations whereby you wouldn't want anyone to know about your worth or investment at hand, as long as you have the keys they coins belong to you and no court or government can cease your asset from you.

This is rude and uncalled for. Many persons would insult you for this but I would just pretend I didn't see this. I can see clearly that you've problems comprehending my post because there's no place in the post where I supported either of the couples.

Personally, I find this story very interesting and I would appreciate if you can keep us posted.
However, I think this will be a very tough but for the judge to crack. What if the man deny ownership of this BTC.
 Bottom line is that this case can go either way.

Was that Bitcoin wallet a 2/2 multisig wallet? No, so how does she claim that 50% of it belongs to her? She is just a typical gold digger and the law of splitting everything that has been acquired since marriage is the worst law that has been created.

This is what I love about crypto wallets. If the owner knows keys or have saved them somewhere safely, despite the fact that his wife stole the Ledger hardware wallet, this man can still recover it.

This is another beautiful quote from that article.

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The only logical solution in this case and in every upcoming case is:
If wallet is a multisig 2/2 and the second multisig owner wife, then it should be split if both agrees but if wallet is not a multisig wallet and is owned by one person, then law shouldn't push the owner to send half of crypto to wife or husband.

This is why you do not disclose your crypto stash to someone else, not even your spouse unless you trust them with your life or you believe that they aren't with you just for the money. The last one is very difficult to prove especially nowadays that a lot of people only want to exist and be showered with affection and pampered with material things. That is why I do not really agree to speed dating up to a marriage, not unless you know your soon-to-be spouse since childhood and you are sure that they won't flip the switch if it ever comes to that.

Hopefully though, the husband gets to keep whatever crypto he has for himself. It's bullshit that your spouse get to keep half of what you built way even before you guys met while the other doesn't really help add any value to your life in case you get separated.

Things are really getting more and more complicated with regard to this, and you might be able somewhat to hide and just make it your own if there's no evidence that you even have it in the first place. It's going to be hard to determine if it's really his and is able to go that far to know that it is yours.

So there's a job for that now? Like crypto hunters?

No one can prove of ownership if she cannot prove that he holds the private key of the wallet which have 12 BTC balance. If she only have snapshot of the balance well the husband can deny that and he will not be forced to split up the balance for just like that. This is the advantage of holding our other wealth on digital currency since we can deny that amount is in our position and you make their life to prove that especially if your wife us not worthy to get some share on your wealth.

If i understood the news correctly, there's no indication the Bitcoin was bought using wife's money or money from shared spending/saving account. In that case, i fail to understand why would the wive demands 50% of husband's Bitcoin. Anyway, i don't see anything wrong by not revealing existence of non-shared things (whether it's Bitcoin or personal bank account).


It's not surprising since job called private detective/investigator exist. In addition there are many blockchain analysis service such as Chainalysis, although most of them aim government/cryptocurrency business as their customer rather than individual.

My thought is that this folk is not smart at all, if he did, he would have been more clever in hiding his Bitcoin. For this to have been discovered by the wife's hunter might mean that the guy was not actually hiding anything as he might not just disclose it or he is just a novice in the business. Because, if I want to hide Bitcoin this day with my level of understanding now, it would be almost perfect as I would definitely use trusted third parties and still mix my coins before I would safely keep them. I wonder how the crypto hunter would be able to reach all the networks used in doing so.

It's painful if a divorce is making you pay more for a woman that is not worth it. Some women deserve it, but some don't just deserve it as they might have made your life miserable before the divorce. While some only married you just because of your fortune.

I am not trying to destroy people's marriages but I've never for once like the idea of letting people know your real worth, and this includes your spouse, not until you are so sure that your spouse are for real, I mean, a man knows his family more than anyone, but that's not always the case, if you are the one that got married to someone after you already in money you have to be cautious, maybe what you had isn't for real, you won't know, ladies of today get married not because of love but because of what they can achieve from marrying the man, if you have to come into the light with your wife about your worth, make sure it's the one third of your worth..

I see everything wrong in someone pretending to love someone just to be able to take over their properties, this is why I don't want to leave this country and go to US because this is very common in the US, I can't live with myself sharing my properties with someone that have pretend to love me all this while, it's never going to happen on my watch.

His wife were aware of his bitcoins that is why she hired a forensic to find the wallet or key. Still I don't clear about hiring forensic but that is my best guess. People are getting smarter and so the husband was smart enough to hide his bitcoins but seems like his ex wife is also techy.

Should have learned his lessons from A.Hakimi and gave the key phrases to his mom instead hiding.

Interesting story. I will say, you should understand the divorce terms and conditions. if the term says 50/50, so be it. But with digital currencies, This can be kept so safe and private without the woman's knowledge also it can be argued. What if the man invested the 12BTC on behalf of someone?

In digital currency too, there are advantages and disadvantages, especially in the occurrence of death and no one knows the key.

You have to declare every single penny you have in case of a divorce, and things like having half a million $ in safekeeping from somebody won't fly with any judge. You will simply have to return them and your mother will get a nice call from the IRS about half a million she never mentioned din her taxes.


Previously undisclosed.
From the court's point of view, it doesn't even matter if he has the wallet anymore, if those coins have been traced living his main disclosed wallet and he has no statement or filling of selling those it means the coins are his and the current value of those will be added, he can keep the coins, he can split it, he can even burn his keys, he will still have to pay half of it.


Bruh, the law doesn't give a damn about the technical stuff of multi sig wallets or anything like this.
Those 12 BTC are counted as value, just like that, do you think couples will split diamonds and jewelry and cars in half at a divorce?


No, the law is not pushing anyone to send half of the coins.
The law is demanding that both of them present all their assets for the divorce, and split the value, it might be possible that nobody will want the BTC so they will get sold and each of them will receive half all whatever. Also, just because the lawyer can't subpoena a financial institution in another jurisdiction it doesn't mean the court can't force both of them to disclose their assets hold there.

This is the first time I've heard a story like that, it appears that the wife is quite smart for hiring someone to investigate whether her husband has bitcoin or not. However it also seems that she's being greedy by wanting to split his bitcoin investment in half which amounts to a significant sum of money around 6 BTC for each of them. I think the husband should have considered sending his Bitcoin to a family member such as his mother or father in order to avoid falling into this situation. He could have learned from the case of Ahref Hakimi who faced a similar predicament with his ex-wife.

Diamonds and jewelry can't be split in two but bitcoin can be.

To be completely honest, I don't know well how the law works in this case. I'm just very much against this and these terrible laws makes me think that its better to marry without signing a marriage certificate. One may ask, don't you trust your wife? But you know, shit happens, especially today and probably too much feminism and too much praise of women makes men to marry women from poor countries who do housework and act like a housewife instead of a queen.
By the way, is it legally fair that this women took her husband's Ledger without his knowledge? It's a robbery.

I remember the split of Achraf Hakimi and Hiba Abouk people think that Hakimi is a smart guy naming all of his assets and properties to her mom before the proceedings of the divorce. On the other hand with this situation of split of this guy and his wife, the law varies per country on how the proceedings will be. If he hasn't declared his other assets resulting to being caught then he's obliged to give half of it to his wife as the split proceeds. There's the intention of this guy not to declare it and thought that his ex-wife wouldn't find it out.

Being that she has found out, the law in her country may demand she gets half of it as well. It will really be hurtful to the man Because he must have been very disciplined in investing and keeping his Bitcoins to have that amount of bitcoins stashed somewhere. That is a habit he has already developed fully unlike his wife who may have little idea about bitcoins and will most predictable end up using it all. The man will be able to get more bitcoins and grow his wallet status back, but for the woman, she will not.

a very decent asset to keep secret from other people, in matters of distributing assets for divorce cases of course there are different rules in each country, but in this case of course the wife is very cunning so she can find out her husband's bitcoin assets which have been kept secret for a long time, and everyone who are married, of course there are personal secrets that are indeed hidden. If there is a divorce like this, one party will not feel these assets.

His husband work all the time to make money while she's only become a housewife and live comfortable, how can the husband is stealing his wife money when he's the one who make it? that's an another story if both of them are working regardless how much money both of them make.

You will not give all of your coins to your child? so you let all of your coins gone when you die?

Anyway splitting asset during divorce is already nothing new, usually a man is playing smart for use his mom or father name behalf of his asset, so when divorce happen, all of his expensive asset is safe.

Looks like that husband is not smart enough if he was not able to hide it

Well, things are not the same everywhere. I would say the husband failed because he couldn't keep his privacy. If it were in a wallet where we were holding his bitcoins, it would be wise to use a Mixer or do some mixing transactions between wallets and keep it in a single wallet. Finding a wallet where some bitcoins were sitting without any transaction in the last couple of years is not easy. But, if he were doing transactions and holding his Bitcoin in the same wallet. That's his mistake.

However, I don't suggest doing it since it's cheating. I just shared my opinion on why it was his privacy failure. But, when it comes to follow the rules and regulations, you should be honest there. Let's say I am holding a good portion of Bitcoin, I will tell my partner that I am holding it.

At first what resulted the divorced?
I may categorically say this rules are from some of the foreign countries unlike ours, there's no way wife and husband sharing properties while they have a child or children in between them.

Sometimes letting our wife's knows about our assets is somehow dangerous because you can't outsmart them, instead I prefer sharing with my children instead of wife. Don't quote me wrongly, there are some women who don't come to your life to spend the entire life with you rather they came for your wealth so after giving birth to 1 or 2 they files for a divorce in other to have your wealth being shared equally with them.

Which is why you must "Will" most of your wealth to your children and not wife because 20 to 30 percent death rate today are being caused by wife and women, though this stat is based on the recent death occuring in my localities.
So I don't think there is something he could do because he already shared with the wife his seedphrase and there's no way to outsmart the wife.

Yes, I've saw a video about a couple weeks ago explaining Achraf Hakimi's situation. His story is quite famous because his wife, Hiba Abouk, did get nothing after she filed a nonsense complaint towards the Moroccan football star and accusing him of rape, physical injury, etc. Little did Hiba know, Hakimi's mother already foresee the situation that he's into and decided to take control of everything and demand to put his assets to her name for safety purposes and so that in case a divorce will happen, which did really happen, Hakimi's wife will get nothing.

And the funny thing is, if I'm not mistaken, Hiba Abouk (Hakimi's wife) was the one who shared her own assets that was over $20 Million before the settlement because under the court of law, both of them should gather all their assets and divide it into two.

Now, that's what I call karma and a snappy salute for Hakimi's mother for predicting the situation much earlier before everything goes into pieces.

the law varies government to government. I do not know where the husband and wife lived.

I do not know if the husband was a villain or the wife was a villainess. Or both.

Also I have zero idea when the husband acquired the coins.

I also have zero idea how someone figured out the coins exist .

So basically let the courts figure it out not me.

Hahaha, that is true! :D

We can only speculate about this case. We don't know if the wife helped the husband to build the couple's fortune somehow, so he could acquire those 12 BTCs. We don't know if the wife is just a gold digger who is trying to get most money as possible from the man, even what he has conquered by himself. There are so many variables that even for the justice system it must be really hard to make a decision 100% assured it's the right thing to do.

The intimacy of a couple on its details is a misty matter probably only the wife and the husband know exactly the reality and what is the fairest solution, although they won't admit it, if they aren't fair individuals, besides being full of resentment of each other.

After the divorce, when the court made their verdict as to the amount of alimony to pay to the wife be it monthly or yearly I don't know if there should be a reason for him to disclose the Bitcoin investment. I know this kind of thing happens abroad but in my country, the husband has the right to hide things like this so far you are not running a joint account or business, he used his money to accrue it.

What a funny reply! 😃
If the wife had stumbled on the seed phrase of the husband, she would probably had copied it somewhere and secretly transfered the Bitcoin out of the husband's wallet to hers. My guess is she must have found the address written somewhere and she knew it belongs to her husband, she then passed it alongside other financial documents to her forensic expert who discovered 12 Bitcoin sitting in the wallet.

Personally, I never like divorce especially when it stems from a place of greed. From the story, the wife has no proper knowledge of bitcoin. It would be a difficult case to settle by the judges as bitcoin is a highly volatile asset that shouldn't be in the possession of someone without any knowledge about it. What if the bitcoins is split and after a week the market crashes and the value of the bitcoin the wife got decrease, I bet she might sue the again sue her "divorced" husband for deceit or whatever legal term they may bring just for her to get more money out of him.

These days divorce have turned to be very common. Most of the divorce happens out of ego, particularly the girls always want them to be the deciding and ruling one. This mentality ends with divorce and many move to the court after learning more about the possible ways to get the best compensation. Here also it looks like pure plan of getting the share from the husband.

Forensic expert have found about the bitcoin holdings, and I don't think something would've happened. What have been discovered is true, then the wife is lucky, because 6 BTC for her will be really big in the long term.

The good part of the story is that, the wife is able to uncover that his husband has undeclared wealth in form of cryptocurrency, so the wife is going after that amount demanding to get the 50% of it as the rule of judge stated.  There is a deceiving on that part because the husband did not declare the asset intentionally so I think the wife will be given that 50% of Bitcoin stash.

I would say that the husband on the case you stated is smart.  Depositing his money on his mother account which can't be touched by the wife.  That is much better way if husband don't want to share his wealth to his wife in times when there is a need to split the family wealth.

That's a smart women that is observant. The same reason the husbands hid the knowledge of the btc from the divorce saga eventually happened. I don't think he has much choice than to declare the 12 btc as part of the asset acquired during the time when they are both married.
Although hiding information from spouse is not a good thing but in situations like this you would wish you had or better yet, get a prenup in the beginning.

If you do not encrypt your bitcoins you will sooner or later run into issues. If the bitcoins are successfully encrypted the man can always say that he did loose access to his coins. To be fair however, the man has the duty to split his bitcoins in the event of the divorce, so it’s actually a good thing that the bitcoins were discovered by the women.

The man was being smart by half and that's not good. He forgot that he must've disclosed his dreams and expectations of his business (Bitcoin) with his wife during the good time before the divorce saga and the wife had internalized it all. Now, let's see it from the point of it being an offline business; wouldn't he have declared it? Yes, we know the privacy thing when it comes to Bitcoin but we shouldn't see Bitcoin as a secret cult sort of a thing where no one should know what we're doing. Someone somehow there's that one person who has to know or have an idea that we're in this industry. I don't announce my hodlings to anyone else except wify. She's a partner in my progress and that's why.

I just quoted you, howbeit not wrongly. I'm saving this in picture to send to your wify. You can't escape it. The only thing that can pacify me not to send it is taáti wraps of fufu and a big bowl of catfish peppersoup. Nothing less.

It's the first time I've read a story like this. The wife here is very smart; it seems she already knows that her husband has crypto assets, so she hired someone to investigate her husband's crypto holdings to see if it is true. But I think the case where she is being too greedy is more appropriate for her to want to split her husband's bitcoin assets in half. Maybe the money belongs to your parents, or the property of an acquaintance, or the money you had before your marriage? So in this case, the husband should consider finding a legal expert related to cryptocurrency to understand. If true, then the wife will not be entitled to anything and can be sued for the crime of spying on the husband.

I am sure most young folks that planning to get married may decide not to get married due to greed of getting half of their spouse's property through divorce which is adopted by some ladies lately and from my thinking I believe this is the reason why some young rich guys don't want to get marry and prefer to have baby mama.
I also ready about the story of Achraf Hakimi and how he outsmarts his wife due to her greed.

I'm wondering how the woman know about the Bitcoin? Maybe the man told her woman and he forget ever telling her? Men needs to wise up because women are not playing around, whatever brings money into a man's life, women are going to be very attentively about it, all women knows is money, they don't joke with money.  :D :D

I don't want to know how hard you work hard to obtain your Bitcoin, if you are in a country where the law is in support of splitting husband properties into half when divorce comes you have no choice but to do it, men, be wise.

When having a divorce then of course everything should really be split on half.We know that  there are husbands which are totally honest and there are ones who are really loving on keeping up some secrets.

Its not really that bad on having your own personal secret but in terms of money then as a married person then everything should be disclosed because you are both having the rights on knowing on what each others been doing.It is really just that there are people who are really that loving to take things by themselves even having their wife or spouse. We are really securely making some hidden stash or savings because
we can inevitably able to think about those possible worst scenario.

In just because that we dont really like to get left on the dark on times like this, then you would be mainly thinking on saving up some money in forms of crypto. Bad thing only happen or been busted up is on the
time that you would be saying everything.Im aint saying its bad but once you've done it then there's no way you could get away with it and would really be sued out.  :D

From the statement which I got from the article as stated above, it shows a clear sign the man must have invested his funds on a centralized exchange wallet, which the forensic expert could have been able to trace his transaction history on the blockchain and got to know how much he has in his wallet. Because only if had the husband used a decentralized wallet and a Bitcoin mixer to make the fund untraceable immediately he noticed he had a divorce case, I bet you, no forensic crypto hunter would have been able to trace how much he owns. And that's one benefit we members of this forum stand to get against non members of the forum who also own Bitcoin, as we are privilege to learn how to secure our funds through forum discussion.

How do we know if the BTC was co-owned after marriage or it was owned by the husband before he got married to the woman? This is why many men now request for Prenuptial agreements to be taken down among both parties before marriage in case of a divorce no one will feel cheated or used in terms of property sharing.

In some cases women now uses marriage as a means to escaping poverty and not going into marriage for the sake of marriage and this has made many men uncertain about the future of their marriage like never before. All of these has a negative effect on the lives of the children gotten out of the marriage. How unfortunate!

When events like divorce occur frequently these days. I start to wonder what the point of marriage is. Because women now pretend to love men and get married to them, only to later divorce them for the fame they have amass over the years.

In any case, I don't think this case will go anywhere. There is no evidence to support the man's ownership of the 12 BTC. Even if he is the rightful owner, he can easily reject it by claiming that the 12 BTC are not in his possession or written in his name. Let them go and verify how it is his. That puts an end to the case.

This is normal, I mean if you were hiding it then there was a reason, everyone is considering this like husband hid it from his loving wife, these people didn't decide to divorce each other on a single day, they weren't doing that well at all before as well probably. I believe that they were having troubled times and they weren't getting along well and he just decided to hide it even when they were married because of this reason.

Obviously when they decided to divorce each other, he kept on hiding. Anyone would have done the same thing, the exact same wife in this discussion would have done the same thing as well if she had bitcoin to hide. Why do people expect other adults to pay for their future is still beyond me honestly, it just doesn't make sense.

Well, this is just a case of knowing ones right from his left, it is really up to the man and his lawyer to decide to allow the greedy wife to get a share of those bitcoins she probably didn't contribute a dime to, or worked for.

I personally do not think that this type of case is hard to win, simply telling the court that those bitcoins does not belong to the man, and finding some really odd ways to prove it would simply put the case to an end and leave the greedy wife with nothing, she's definitely just after the money, that is why she even went as far as hiring a forensic personnel to dig out the man's assets.

Well if in the case of the PSG footballer Hakim he had been keeping his earning in accounts and properties that bore the name of his mother which in the law was enough to be written off as not his then I think that system should work in this case.

If he has the 12 BTC on centralized exchange one that requires KYC to open then this may not work but a personal wallet like Ethereum he can claim that the wallet isn't his and then push ownership to his well trusted person, I don't know how the law works in terms of sharing of properties after divorce but it shouldn't be also comprising of someone's crypto-currency holdings.

Did he do wrong or right? the law, is the law, even for properties with which she wasn't in his life as at the time he acquired them would be duly shared.
With this, so many are avoiding the court wedding this days because, a gold digger isn't identified by her outward attribute.

OOF! He should be careful of boating accidents in his near future. ::)

Although to be fair, if he did not get a prenup then thats his own fault. Marriage is not worth it in countries like the United State of America because of the silly and confusing laws which accompany it. Especially the ending part ;)

But here is the question, how can she prove it is his address or that he even has access to those funds? If anything, Bitcoin asset holdings, especially those that were previously undeclared or kept secret, are legally hard to obtain. I would think...

But I am not a lawyer nor a forensics specialist and  I have no idea on what the forensic expert that his wife hired found that can serve as evidence in court... :o

There are reasons why people just want to remain unmarried for the rest of their lives. This is because they don't want a situation where they will have trust issues with their wives or husbands. Most people just decide to go into contract marriage or something of that nature if they are actually lovers of kids and nothing more, because in situations like this, what mostly causes issues like this is a lack of trust, or will I say they fall out of love for each other, and if the falling out of love is actually the issue behind them divorcing, then there should be no reason to come after each other's wealth.

Wealth and greed have been the major reasons why most people go into marriage these days. Marriage is supposed to be for two people who love, care for, and trust each other beyond friendship and want to make a home for themselves, but today's generation has turned that out to be something of an open-business nature.

This Bitcoin could only be shared or access gained to it if the husband actually wants it to be shared since it's not something on the bank and it's not registered under any financial sector. If the lady wins the case for them to share the Bitcoin, can the court give an order for those Bitcoin to be split among the divorcees?
And the husband can actually claim not to have those coins since there is no proof of ownership attached to the wallet.

This just got me inspired lol , there is a lot of interesting story involve bitcoin include this one as the man using technology like bitcoin to hide up his own wealth to avoid the divorce settlement fund fully exposed and there is no specific law against this yet ... at least for now .

The guy just saved himself in very clever way to promote bitcoin all at once!

It's not just women these days that are so bad, there are men who behave the same way today. Many men fail, are lazy to work, and they often marry people much older than themselves or women with disabilities but rich families. And as you said, they got married just because of their partner's huge fortune. Today's society is very pragmatic, and to find someone who is honest with you is very difficult, like finding a needle in a haystack.


I don't know where this story will go, but once we are married, we still hide our private property and greed, and selfishness, leading to divorce and lawsuits are inevitable.

It would be even better if his wife didn't find you about this at all. But still pretty good job, I'd like to see him keeping it all.

He can say he lost his passphrase or seed in a boating accident :D

Seriously though, he can just say he can’t remember his passphrase or seed & then several years later, when proceedings are completed, suddenly remember how to access the coins. There are ways to come out on top in a situation like this ;)

Do you know why women are best archeologists ? Because they are best in digging in the past. I am sure that her husband told her everything about Bitcoin, when he tried to explain where he plans to spend their money on. Perhaps they had one pc or laptop, and it isnt hard to find someone who will search someones disk for an address. Most of people think that their PC or impregnable fortress and dont even try to hide things like address or account. I would not be surprised if he had link to his wallet saved in his favourites.

I'm not an expert in this field but can she really get the half of it? The husband can deny that he owns it. There's no proof to prove that he's the owner of it unlike other assets where it has their name on it. Also, if the wife even seek help from her lawyer, can they really claim the half of his Bitcoin ownership? Does their law in their country have anything about Bitcoin or crypto assets involved with regards to splitting of ownership during a divorce? I think the husband have more control over this... Although it really shows the sad part of marriage. When you got into the divorce stage, both of you will fight on claiming ownerships as if you didn't loved each other. It's like, everything becomes about money at the end

What a riot. Imagine the guy being relaxed and all thinking he had already set aside good enough money and hid it well just to find out later that the wife went full on detective sht on him and hired an expert to find out that he had 12 undeclared bitcoins, LOL. I honestly kinda feel bad for the guy since the effort was wasted but then again, we don't know what led to the said divorce so I guess he should still be glad that at least his bitcoins didn't get frozen or whatever. xD

What will gonna happen if the husband is found guilty about it? will he lose that bitcoins or not? I think given the amount of BTC he was hiding, he will gonna face some huge consequences and his ex-wife will gonna have more profits from their divorce. In other countries, divorce is not worse than this where you need to pay your ex-wife a certain amount of money just to let her go. In other places, you just need to sign papers and everything is settled and you don't need to pay any amount except that you are obliged to support your children that's it.

Marriage has lost its value in our society ever since divorce was introduced into marriages, now woman just get married so they can divorce and get half of the mans wealth and go to spend it with some undeserving lazy man that didn't work and hustle when his fellow men were hustling to get their wealth. I don't blame the man for hiding his Bitcoin, he was keeping it to help him recover.

The man shouldn't give up his Bitcoin, the wife can take half of every other thing but his Bitcoin should be his investment for the future and not to be destroyed by the wife. If the wife takes the Bitcoin, she'll just sell them and waste the money as most divorce wifes do.

From the write-up, it appears the man didn't reveal it to the wife, but the woman acted based on suspicion and hire an expert to help her investigate.

Yea, it really suck to have people hide under the guise of divorce to take what they never worked for. I hate divorce, and I hate the fact that some crooks are exploiting this lacuna to defraud their spouse.

Marriage is another thing I guess wherein there's transparency with one's fund but ofcourse it would be to the owner of an asset whether to disclose it or not. In my country, a husband has the responsibility to give financial support especially to a kid and his partner but there's no law (on my awareness) which  forces someone in a marriage to give everything he has. Not unless the other party would see it and would demand for a dhare into it, but that would be possible through verbal agreement alone and not on papers. If it is through the man's capabilities to invest then it has nothing to do with the wife unless such thing is announced to other party and demand for a portion of it. But with total possesion ofcourse it would depend to the owner whether to allow such thing or not.

hey dude, not all families have the same problems, so if you're getting along you won't find your partner's flaws, not smart enough in this case, because it's the rule in marriage that joint property after marriage must be divided equally if you don't have children,
but if 12 btc is purchased by the man before marriage the woman has no rights in that ownership,
only a greedy woman admits what is not hers,

I think a lot depends on the kind of relationship and marriage people have. Some marriages are simply unstable, full of conflict. Some work out of convenience, mutual comfort but not mutual love or trust. So, of course, if total trust isn't a part of one's marriage, then disclosing one's BTC funds probably isn't a good idea.
From the article, it seems that what happens now depends on the state legislation, as some states have the policy of 50% of assets acquired during marriage going to a spouse, but others may not. Bitcoin is considered a digital asset (at least, by the IRS), so the court might actually oblige him to share 6 BTC.

It is about honesty from both sides, husband and wife. If the husband has crypto assets, he should tell his wife and tell her if she wants to buy crypto assets and keep them. But if he doesn't, then maybe the husband just wants to hide it from his wife and doesn't want to say anything about the crypto he owns.

If the husband buys his crypto after he marries his wife, she can claim a portion of the total amount of his assets. But if the husband bought the crypto asset before he married his wife, the husband can give some money because he bought it with his own money. And if the husband and wife have children, the husband may be obligated to support the child.

But maybe the husband will split the crypto assets and give half to his wife so there will be no more problems after the divorce. This may be new for all of us but it may develop in the future because the popularity of crypto will surely increase and many people want to invest in crypto.

He probably bought them through an exchange and the KYC/AML banks have his activities well documented. They will also see his BTC spending...

He probably kept is all in one wallet. 

It's not uncommon for financial assets to become a contentious issue during divorce proceedings, and cryptocurrency is no exception. The case you mentioned highlights the importance of transparency and disclosure in financial matters, especially when it comes to shared assets like Bitcoin. This situation serves as a reminder that trust and communication are key in any relationship, and it's wise to plan for the unexpected by considering how to handle cryptocurrency and other assets in case of unforeseen circumstances.

The case is very complicated one ,  bitcoin and blockchain is so different from from fiat and the banking system that has people's full details and identity in the system.  Blockchain can only give details of transactions but can't give full identity of anyone,. The man can actually deny ownership of the wallet because their is no evidence to prove that the wallet belongs to him.

 So in this case it will be difficult for the woman to claim a share from it. She can only share physical properties of her husband own by his name.
 From this case I can see another benefit of bitcoin which the law do not have power or judgment over it. Their is no evidence that the husband own the wallet. She can only share his money that is in the bank or other investment with prove that is backed with the court of law.

Funny story and I think most of these women are now taking marriage as an investment scheme and I pity for men for fall into these mess of a thing.
The man was smart but not enough and I think he might at the end if proven to be in possession  of such be asked to split his hodlings which isn't right 🤔

Just like the case of the footballer, hakimi was way too smart and acted so fast and I also believe  that most men must have learnt one or two lessons from the entire incidence and acted upon it.
People should learn how to protect what they own and also learn how to protect their marriages rather than seeking a divorce and I think the law should make it fair that splitting  wealth should be a very concrete  bases and not just for the sake of marriage.

Divorce is a sensitive topic here in our country, and there are only a few here who do it, unlike in other countries where it is almost universal. My thought on this is that your ex-wife is not your true love, as both of you are going through this, and I think this is really the case if you go to annulment. You will need to give all of your assets or keep them in half, and this is really in the law. Though hiding it through bitcoin is a good idea, there is a chance that they wouldn't see it if you didn't leave traces.

Prenup, guys. No matter how nice she seems, no matter how much you're crazy about her, no matter how supportive and good she seems, ask for a prenup to be signed if you're situated individual.

If she is with you because she loves YOU for you, she wont have any issues with prenup. If she isn't, she'll give you shit and make you feel bad about it. Stay safe, gents

This is why prenup is important if you have some undisclosed assets to your partner that you save when you are single. This kind of asset like Bitcoin is supposed to be not split if earned it long time ago.

But on this narrative, The husband use Bitcoin to save some of his assets that supposedly split since it’s considered as both party property because pf the money being use. He is trying to cheat on assets split since he know that the marriage is already cold. Actually, tracking crypto assets now are very easy especially on country like US that crypto are needed to be tax and track for the IRS report.

The husband deserves that bust since he wants to take away the money that earned within the marriage span.

It becomes too unforgiving when you got kids. Just giver her what she deserves, split it after all you can earn it all soon after the bull run and you can double your holdings again.

Does anybody thinks of working as a Cryptocurrency forensic expert already?  Seem a new job that is in demand soon for many of the users who knows how to investigate and follow that chain.  It would sound good to introduce yourself as Crypto Forensic Expert  :D

It doesn't change anything in their case because he didn't have these bitcoins before marriage. He bought them later, when he was earning his 3 million a year.
AFAIK a prenup only makes it clear as to what they had as their own assets and assets that belonged to their families, but income earned during marriage is split.
The law even separates the property into personal property (protected by the prenup) and joint property (that gets divided).
BTC was bough with the money the husband earned during marriage, which is why she had the right to pursue it.  

I wish my wife will never learn about cryptocurrencies. JK. But I do sense she is reading something about it although she never asked me about it yet. I always say: "You have your gold accessories, I have my cryptoccurencies." Whatever happens to us, it will go to the kids. Never ever that we argue about our possession, and I don't think we will be on the point of divorce like on the example or for whatever reason to be on court.
For the rich people who love jumping from one woman to another, this must be done.  ;D

The same. I also think like you, maybe my husband once told his wife about bitcoin. so when the divorce his wife also wanted to get a share of the bitcoin.

In their country, they implement a civil law system known as "separation of property" where each husband and wife can retain their own property that they owned before marriage and whatever they acquire during marriage remains their personal property. In this system, not all property has to be divided equally. I think her husband kept the bitcoins with his own assets, his wife knew what the husband kept so he hired a forensic expert.

There are also countries such as mine which implement a civil law system called "sharing of joint property", where property acquired during marriage is considered joint property and must be divided equally between spouses upon divorce.

I think it's important for her husband to find relevant information about the civil law that applies in his country. so that during an incident like that he can take back his bitcoin which is 12 BTC without having to divide it in half.

The point is there are differences in law and provisions related to this case. However, cases like this may not be new even though the assets owned are different (bitcoin). There have been many divorces before where the wife would get 50% of the property from the husband including digital assets like stocks or others. Bitcoin is also a digital asset that has high selling value, so it is also a property that the husband's side should not hide.

Okay, the husband may be dishonest by saying that the bitcoins he has have run out for whatever reason, but as long as the wife still believes that the bitcoins still exist and can be proven, of course, 50:50 split will be demanded. This is not an uncommon case, but something can be learned.

Wow, that’s a fascinating story. I think hiding crypto assets from one’s spouse is dishonest and unfair, especially during a divorce. I also think that spouses should have some knowledge of each other’s crypto dealings and seed phrases, in case of emergencies or inheritance issues. ;) ;) ;)

I don't think there is any way he could have denied ownership of those 12 bitcoins that was traced by the forensic expert, because from what stated in the article, the husband's credit card was traced to have been buying Bitcoin on "Coinbass", which is a centralized exchange which keep record of all transactions, of which I think they may have consulted "Coinbase" with a court order for investigation, and it was granted, of which they got to realised the sum total of bitcoin that was involved. Which is why it's not advisable keeping your funds on an exchange wallet, but a non-custodial wallet such as "Bluewallet or Electrum"

I don't think bitcoin holding is part of assets to be considered as divorce property if the government doesn't legalize its ownership unless in some countries where bitcoin is a legal asset and covered in government policy regulations otherwise, the man has the legal right over those BTC if and when it is purchase and hold in his private wallets.

Bitcoin is a complicated object in thos situation since divorce property sharing only covers what is legally owned by both parties.

This incident is really interesting to me and in reality if there was such a rule in my country and if the husband would have known this news just before the divorce, he would have withdrawn all his bank balance and converted it to Bitcoin.  Because giving away half of one's hard-earned wealth is a very bad thing for anyone. 

After spending 27 years together, Bill Gates and Melinda separated from each other in 2021. They got divorced. And in that divorce Bill Gates gave half of his net worth to his wife. I think Bill Gates would have refused to give his wife half of his net worth if he were anyone else.

People often say that after marriage, husband and wife should trust each other and be transparent about their assets, but I think there will be a lot of couples who will not follow that. We all have our own secrets that we do not want to reveal, even when husband and wife are together. Some people will say that you are not respectful, but maybe everyone's situation is different and you don't understand anything. So it's best not to comment at all. As for this incident, I see that the decision on whether or not the property is divided depends on whether the husband has it before or after. And it is not wrong for the wife to want to divide the property in half because this is a citizen's right after marriage.

That's right but he has got no choice since they've been married before and he's married to the woman while he's getting and accumulating those Bitcoins. And probably that as per the law says, they're still conjugal with any investment that man is taking.
Thus, he has to split that into two half-half for both of them and the woman for sure will just have no sense of giving importance to it and might just spend that as soon as she receives it, while the man who patiently saved those Bitcoins might get more because of his discipline.

In a way it is natural that under those circumstances the spouse which is bound to lose more from the divorce to try to hide some of their assets, this is nothing new, the only difference is that now bitcoin is being used to try to achieve that goal, however unless the person which wants to do this can hide their interest in this market completely from their other spouse then sooner or later their stash will be found out and they will get in a lot of trouble.

Rules are the rules. If you marry someone and the law says that you have to split all your assets during the divorce process, then it's not surprising to see that the spouse wanted the half of it. But if you really want to hide your holdings, then do it the right way. How can someone know for sure that you own Bitcoin? It's decentralized and should be out of other's reach if you can keep it safe in a private wallet.
However, that's just simple knowledge on how you should keep your bitcoins. But if legally she deserves the half of it, then that man is bound to give it to her.

This is such a terrible and disgusting thought, I can't believe that someone could ever even consider this let alone outright talk about it. You are saying that WOMEN, as in you are saying an ENTIRE gender, marries men and then divorces them just for their money.

You are basically putting a blame on an entire gender for doing something wrong, this isn't about men or women, it's all about the person and individual. Plus, if the law states that people need to share half and half whatever they earned together when they were married, and him hiding it to not pay up, and you think that woman in this situation is the wrongful one? I am sorry but anyone who doesn't this man to pay up, doesn't know what marriage means, the moment you decide you want to marry someone, you agree that 50% of whatever you earn while together, belongs to her, if you disagree, don't marry, if you do marry, you already accepted this deal.

We all know that once you are married, those assets that you have acquired at that stage of your life will be automatically become a conjugal property between you and your wife. So whatever you have, your wife will also have half of it. However, in this story, I think it’s quite unfair for a man to share his fruit of hardwork especially if he has gained it already even before he met his wife. That’s the reason to never trust anyone easily, even your wife as you can be taken advantage by it in the future.

I'm just wondering why the husband doesn't move his bitcoin to other wallet to obscure his tracks if he wants to hide them from his wife? But he really doesn't need to because 6 bitcoin isn't that bad either.

If the wife has children, then the 6 bitcoins allocated to the wife can help her make ends meet after the divorce. Also useful for their children, so apart from the husband's responsibilities towards his children. But I don't mind the law there, it's a provision that needs to be obeyed. Even if those 12 bitcoin have to be divided in half, I think the man can also build it up better after a divorce.

That should be the best idea I guess. If he can’t benefit the most of his bitcoin, then he should make a quick move to send his bitcoins to his loved ones or to his trusted family or friend. That way, his greedy wife will have nothing to gain from him. And talking about crypto hunter, no matter how professional he is, as long as the evidence has gone completely, then he can’t do nothing about it.

In this case, the woman has clearly taken advantage on his soon to be ex-husband, but that’s how law works in most of the state. What the husband gets, the wife also can take half of it. So in order for this case to be closed, I think it’s a good idea for the husband to send to his wife half of his bitcoin asset. After all, he can start all over again acquiring btc even if that move will really hurt his ego.

You can't do it even before the divorce, the court will never accept it, and even you will be fined if there is such greed.  when not officially divorced, all assets will be considered common property, and we are responsible for dividing them equally when deciding to get married. 
In the case of Bill Gates and Melinda, I don't think they would hesitate to divide their assets between their spouses.  they are very rich and have lived together near the end of their lives, they will not be so greedy or selfish with their spouse because, in the future, that money will also belong to their children no matter who holds it.

It makes such a long read. I couldn't devote my time to reading all its proceedings but, read most of it to establish an idea on the matter.

As much as divorces isn't very popular in Africa and with most of it still living like in the medieval times when tradition serves as the law and mainly favours the men, this is one reason why you would find African men not having to disclose there finances with there spouse. The responsible once do there best to provide what's needed within the household but, never discloses what they earn. Not because they anticipate a divorce but, as a means to keep their spouse's eyes off their earnings.

It's always amazing how two persons that once professed loved to themselves in the presence of others seek divorce with such greed without contended on whatever is split.

Eesh... And this is why you should sign up for a prenup.

Too stupid of him though, you always must diversify lmao. So at least the slightest suspicions could be diverted by a good stray asset, and your stash of bitcoins remain untouched and secure. If all else fails just file for a prenup for god's sake. Also, too funny to see the term "financial infidelity" written by CNBC, like what the hell you hiding your money for? Plus I think this kind of problem only happens in the US lmao, so I think every peeps in this forum, besides the ones in the US should be fine and dandy soon as things between their spouses get rocky, in the Philippines for instance, we have prenup but we don't even have divorce, so all separation of assets and valuables are done in good faith only.

Anyways, that's a long read, I couldn't bother myself reading the entirety of it.

The husband failed to disclose his holdings of bitcoin assets, so the wife has the right to request the division of the property because it is a right and an obligation under marriage law. However, if the person's assets are inherited from his parents before marriage, the wife will not receive anything from the bitcoins that the husband holds. In general, the direction of property settlement is still in the husband's control; if he is wise, he can find a way to defend his legal assets.

As a funny story that shows how the legitimacy of bitcoin or some cryptocurrencies can outperform the control of the law, sometimes we come across really tricky situations in life to realize that sometimes when the constraints in the physical world are complicated. Through this story helped me realize the superiority of bitcoin more, although not knowing the truth of the story or the complexity of the marriage story, it reminded me of some social media jokes. It is common knowledge that some people are willing to break the law and hide their assets into bitcoin after serving a sentence of many years in prison, they will become millionaires when they get out of prison.

Yeah, but that's not a problem if there's no fighting going on, even the husband is willing to give all out of love.
However, you get that wealth when you live together and definitely plan to spend it together. In the process of collecting them, husband and wife clearly play a role in each other even though people sometimes judge it as unbalanced. But a man isn't gonna bother to at least earn some stable grades when he has no family responsibilities because in fact he can even live on his own for a fraction of the cost of living.

So this is the way to, like, evade some of your money from being fully received by your ex-wife, right? It is a really complicated topic right now as we don't have any laws or regulations about it. We know that bitcoin was new when it was made, and I think as long as you don't declare it, no one will notice it unless it is the same with the OP. They will hire someone just to investigate you and find out if you have another account.

The take away is that marriage is bullshit these days (In America) don't ever get married unless she is worth more than you and if you do heavy on the prenup. The law and courts are heavily hell bent for the female, always.

You are just a safe point as they look for the next best thing, with your kids and you paying for it.

even How smarter he is , still he did not managed to Hid everything from His wife lol .

Bitcoin is the best place to hide everything from another party even if this is our wife/husband but the way I see this? it looks like they are having a problem long ago this is why hiding happens .

because if they are not facing issues , i see no reason why they need to come across this case.

Me and my wife has no problem about me holding bitcoin and this saves us from any money issues because she knew that everything in my holding is for Her and our children .

That is the logical decision, especially if bitcoin has a clear legal origin. For people who can't prove the origin because for example they mined it in the past and don't have the logs, or bought it P2P paying in hand, or saved it from signature campaigns without declaring them, the issue is a bit more complicated.

In those cases there are people who choose to hide it from his wife because it is something that can be turned against him in a potential divorce case.

It's terrible to have decided to get married, but we live in suspicion, hiding from each other. For those who are supporting this guy and if you are not married, you should carefully consider what your purpose of marriage is because when you are married, you will always trust and share everything with each other. Greed and lies have no place in marriage, and that will make your marriage soon break up.

I also hold a lot of bitcoin, but it's not something I value more than my wife and kids. If I lose them, I will never find them, but with bitcoin, as long as I keep working hard, owning bitcoins is too easy.

Very interesting to follow regarding the distribution of assets, including crypto assets such as Bitcoin. I think this can be a complex issue as well. If an asset is not disclosed during the divorce process and is discovered later it can affect the process of sharing the property together.

My point of view, in seeing this, I see more about the next journey after which if they have family members, in this case they have children. I think this step is right in the context even though the wife is from among those who are proficient or not familiar with crypto and it is worth fighting for and done fairly because it will help meet the needs of their children. they also have rights, for example the smallest right to get a proper education up to university.

My thoughts exactly. There's no evidence to prove that the Bitcoin belongs to the man because unlike a bank account that carry you name, I am sure the wallet doesn't bear the man's name and as such you can't really pin it to him.
She can't really win this. But I wonder why people just want to be greedy.

A very fascinating story indeed. But I don't think hiding crypto currency from one's spouse is dishonesty.
You can't just go about announcing to your wife or husband that I just bought this or that coin. sometimes, you might not even consider it necessary to relate such information to them, not because you want to cheat them.

during this process, of course, there will be a distribution of assets, but currently many countries have not legalized bitcoin, so if you still use cryptocurrency, the law will be weak. but before entering into that realm of course there will be mediation between husband and wife, moreover if you have children, of course both parents will still love their children, and this can be useful for their children's future. it is difficult in such a situation, but of course all problems will have a way out, so both of them have to lower their respective egos

100% agree there is nothing as a perfect love and soul mate, so be wiser and do not disclose everything especially your mobile and finances. Show some extra affection and they want to control your life itself. Money is power it should be in your pocket not your wifes pocket.
When it comes to personal gains even childhood buddies are known to hoodwink you. Do not believe me? Just browse Google News.
Else one learns the harder way. So better stay safe stay single.

Good thing about Bitcoin is that there is no way for others to prove that it is ours unless we also say it and show then the wallet to access it.
But if we won't then how would they know? how would they prove it? we could just use another person that we truly trust to open it and say that it is their investment.

With the way this story goes, it look like the man already told his wife about the Bitcoin somewhere when things where still going smooth between the two, sometimes men have lose their mouth when they are comfortable with the woman in their life, he would have never thought that divorce will happen one day.

It feels bad having to hide something from someone you claimed to love, the guilt will take over your mind but it looks like having to live with the guilt is way better than someone taking your hard-earned Bitcoin from you because you both decide to go your separate ways.

To keep financial secrets or not from your family or partner is a choice, let's hope whatever we chooses to do favours us in the end, divorces can happen to anybody, I don't pray for people's home to go wrong but there is always a possibility of anything happening.

Here in India in Matrimonial the main criteria is a persons take home salary. It does not matter how soft spoken is he or if he is a drunkard or womanizer. If he is rich then people consider themselves lucky that she got a perfect match.
If you want to know how much your wife loves you just come home and say you lost your job.
 

As a result, even if the man has bitcoin, it is an asset and must be shared. Hiding property from your spouse in divorces is a very common mistake. According to some, it is not wrong, I will not argue about it. One of the newer methods is to store assets in crypto. There are many people who go unnoticed in this way and do not give half of their property to their spouses. I think this is wrong. In case of divorce, the courts may request a declaration of property from the stock exchanges. In this way, some mistakes or potential grievances can be avoided.

Well for me disclosing your Bitcoin phrase to your spouse is not a bad idea if there is this trust and understanding but then in terms of this your story of sharing his Bitcoin for divorce purposes simply because the wife hired some forensic experts is a weak step for me because there is no evidence. So if he shares it he just wanted not because of anything else.

According to the law in force which I think most countries or states, that property or objects acquired during marriage are joint property in any form. Meanwhile, the inheritance of each husband and wife, whether from gifts or inheritance, is under the control of each as long as the parties do not specify otherwise.
and obviously in this case and the bitcoin that the man has if he has it during the marriage he should split it in half and equal with his wife and things like a lot happen in any property that seems better to be resolved soon. So he can start again and collect more bitcoins because he has no other burdens and can collect more bitcoins, so that in the future he will be happier in every way with the new one.

Honestly, not only bitcoin, but I share with my wife most of my secrets. I think if one day we don't live together anymore, I will willingly give all my assets to my wife and need nothing. As husband and wife, they need to trust each other, secondly, whoever keeps that property, they also save it for their children. So let's not be too selfish with our wife even after divorce. Bitcoin, after all, is just money and cannot be more important than the sacred husband and wife relationship.

Although I lack expertise in this area, does she actually understand even half of it? The husband is free to contest his ownership. Unlike other assets where their names are on them, there is no evidence to support his ownership of it. Additionally, can they actually claim their share of his Bitcoin ownership if the wife even seeks the assistance of her attorney? Does their country's law address Bitcoin or other crypto assets when it comes to dividing ownership during a divorce? The husband, in my opinion, has greater power over this. Even yet, it clearly highlights the unhappy aspects of marriage. Both of you will argue about claiming ownerships as if you didn't love one other when you get to the divorce stage. At some point, it seems like everything revolves around money.

It seems that during the marriage, the husband seems to have said that he holds the bitcoin property, so it is normal for the wife to want to divide the assets related to them when she divorces. However, the asset is bitcoin, an asset class that is still very complex, and there are not many laws related to it. The husband can transfer his bitcoins to another wallet without anyone knowing. So this is important, whether the husband wants to share the property or not, but I think it is difficult for the law to handle such property. If he's good, he'll give it to his wife; otherwise, there won't be a dime.

Uhmm Bezos Uhmm !!!

Ofcourse there are people who claim their right on husband's money and they want to suck it up all of it.
In this case, it actually depends on the law and also the fact that the owner of those coins is his husband.
If the person somehow proves it that he doesn't own any coins which I think he can if he is smart then he won't have to giveaway half of his coins.
Besides that, how greedy this woman can be to claim her rights on those BTC.

If the husband has gained it before the marriage, the wife has nothing to do with it but if those assets were acquired when already they’re married, then the wife has all the right to take part half of it. However, I can sense in this story that the wife here is really smart. Imagine, he has known it already even if his husband has not declared it. But I pity on the part of the husband because he cannot enjoy all what he’s been working for in the past. Though he can also take half of it, but I can sense that he’s been taken advantage by his wife in this case.

That could be the case of the husband here, he acquired his bitcoins maybe when he was still not married so he chose to hide it especially if he sees his wife cannot be trusted with his asset, so it’s better to hide it than to expose it in your wife and could be subject for fighting. But maybe the husband here is not wise enough to hide his bitcoins since his wife has suspected it still. He could have send it to his family or close relatives when the divorce is still ongoing.

Apparently, a crypto hunter was hired by the attacker in spite of the crypto stash not being disclosed by the owner. It doesn't seem to be any protection to keep crypto stash secret. Probably, the root cause of the problem lies in attacker attitude and enforcement agencies.

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Why not? Isn't there any situation in which you would like to voluntarily let somebody know your real worth?

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Did he fail if he keeps his bitcoins even though not privately?

What reason or evidence do you think he was taken advantage of by his wife? I am also a husband, and in this case, I cannot side with the other husband. Simply because even the bitcoin he owned before marriage, he shouldn't keep it hidden from his wife. Apparently, he was selfish to live with and tried to hide his wealth to himself. Maybe that has also affected family feelings because, being called family, it is necessary to respect and trust each other. When you are the family's breadwinner, do you work hard and earn money to get rich? Is it for your family or yourself?

Should he tell an attacker about his crypto assets? The enemy declared divorce proceedings which is in stark contrast to good faith negotiations. Also, there seems impossible to hold talks as equals - one party is in a weaker position and the other takes advantage of it (together with various institutions). Why do you assume that he should tell her that he has crypto assets?

Apparently, it's not clear if she had right to pursue the BTC (even if husband had bought them with many earned during marriage).

BTW why treat BTC as an asset and not art, invention (intellectual property), donations etc.? And what if the BTC was stolen (or taken in any illegal way) instead of legitimately purchased?

Is divorce the emergency you think about?

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Do you trust youself with as much confidence as you trust your other half?

A crypto owner should be proud about the decentralised nature of Bitcoins. It means that no government or any other person can know how many Bitcoins you are holding. So my only query is that how did the forensic expert find out about his digital holdings. The husband here in this case could have easily saved all the Bitcoins, but now he has to surely follow what the court will decide. So yes bad luck for the husband.

What can I say, if the husband knew that things were going to divorce, then he should have covered his tracks. ) From this story, it is clear that he did not tell his wife about bitcoins when they were married, and understandably did not want to talk about it when they divorced. This story once again proves that the cryptocurrency should be as anonymous as possible so that, if possible, no one could prove that you own bitcoin.

Perhaps he should have told his wife about bitcoin when they were married, but during the divorce, say that he lost everything, and no one could verify this. )

That’s good, now her husband could transfer the ownership to someone else trusted more than his wife by giving the private keys. He could save his half bitcoin. That would be simply under decentralisation power if he plays smartly.

Anyways, I am not sure from which country this article is but in my country the rule itself has been made very smartly. Due to divorces and woman taking advantage of the half property splitting they now amended that only woman who is dependant on the husband shall be given the splitting. This includes extensive background check before court can make any decisions.

So no splitting of the bitcoins just like that.

The wife in the case was smart enough to hire that forensic expert because otherwise she would have never known that her husband owns so 12 bitcoins in a wallet. Now, she is smart once again to ask for half of the bitcoins as a divorce settlement. I must say that females are very smart these days because they are also technically good just like men.

I think if you own any crypto-currency or Bitcoin secretly, you should not disclose that investment to your spouse because if they know that you have the investment and still you're not spending those for their needs than the relationship can face bitter times. Although, some people prefer to share every detail of their investments with their spouses, but I think it's better to keep such things secret.

I don't mean to say that you should not fulfill their needs because you can do that with the money that you have in the form of fiat rather than the Bitcoin that you're holding for a better future of your family. The investment will be very useful for the kids and the future life of your spouse. I don't think that a good relation should end with divorce because the relation is good when both wife and husband live their life together happily.

Oh, look! We're orbiting around the perpetual interplay of trust and openness in relationships, now twisted into a pretzel by the cryptic cosmos of crypto! The narrative you've just spun is as tantalizing as a reality TV cliffhanger, yet it unravels some deep-rooted concerns.

In a world that's more Star Trek than Victorian London, truth should be the driving force in matrimony, extending its reach to financial disclosures. But wait, there's a plot twist! Crypto's USP - the allure of monetary solitude - seems to go head-to-head with this axiom. The reverberations of this paradox, both in the eyes of the law and ethics. If the gavel is oblivious to crypto assets, the equitable apportioning of the wealth pool becomes a mission harder than landing on Mars.

Parallelly, the spouse recruiting a 'crypto bloodhound' is a billboard of our zeitgeist - exhibiting the extent one might have to venture to secure fairness in such scenarios. So, strap in folks, it's all memes and lulz until you're at the business end of a 'crypto probe'.

It is unbelievable from my own understanding is that a woman or a wife we discover a hidden bitcoin from the husband's wallet that means the private key of that wallet is not secured that is why in anything you are doing is supposed to have your private key secured without exposing it to everyone, exposing your private key to everyone is late into hacking of your wallet from different angle so as the wife of a husband is double the amount of Bitcoin in the wallet I think that will prevent the wife not to leave their husbands out again if the amount of Bitcoin find my wallet is large

And even if they knew it’s ours, once we send it to other trusted person, the evidence will automatically gone so there’s no reason for them to chase us anymore. I just hope the husband in the story have thought about it so that his wife will no longer take part on his bitcoin investment. Dishonesty is always bad, but maybe in this story, being dishonest could be the best option for the husband so that he’ll not be taken advantage by his wife.

It’s more on a half-half division I think as it’s what’s common in most of the state law. That’s the scenario if one of them has known assets so they have to divide it equally as long those assets were gained at the time they’re already married. But if those were gained when they’re still single, then the other half would not have any rights to take it or own it.

I guess the husband got busted because he failed to hide his Bitcoin from his wife.  He failed in his evil plan of keeping their supposed to be conjugal property by himself.  Honestly, I feel irritated to this kind of person (the husband).  He only thinks of himself when he hides Bitcoin.  If he is a responsible husband, he could have shared the good news about Bitcoin on his wife, and maybe they won't be getting a divorce since their investment in Bitcoin can help strengthen their relations.  Remember having a joint venture can improve people's relations.

Husband's getting busted happens often. One such incident is said here, and we don't know for what reason they have moved to the decision of divorce. If the divorce is taken forward for some financial issues then this could've helped them get better with their relations. We don't know what exactly is the scenario, one of my friend have applied for divorce. The reason is simple, that she wants his money and not him. He was so loving and he kept buying property in her name, at some point he realised that he isn't valued. Now he doesn't want to give money to her. Maybe in such situation this guy too could've hidden his bitcoin holding.

First of all we have to know that marriage is a unified union and everything in it should be done openly in other to gain each other's trust, even though the man in question owns those BTC before he got married he would have also discuss it with his wife, if he didn't trust this woman he wouldn't have embarked on the journey of making her his wife. He failed to understand that sharing this information with her might have strengthen the marriage or even push the family front in terms of Btc. This should serve as lesson to many men and women that communication is one of the major key to a successful marriage despite that it can be abused but it remains the tools to use in sharing meaningful ideas.

Haha, after a long time, I am reading such a good story, man tried his full efforts to save the precious holding but as you Women (haha). She really got him bare handed and now he is getting charged for marrying such a sharp girl by donating 6BTC to her. Haha, such incidents are really rare but I am curious how she suspected that his husband holds Bitcoin and forensic analysis  :D :D this is really extreme step against him. Anyway, now Hell be more careful while choosing a girl haha what a costly separation.

Two reasons for being sad and one is more haerting and that's Lossing precious accumulation.

Well, if a husband has bitcoins in his personal wallet and he tells no one about that crypto holding, then there is no way that anyone can know that he has Bitcoin unless he tells himself to anyone.

I wonder how his wife came to that he has crypto and how she prove it ? There is no KYC for any personal wallet and if the husband never discloses the private key, there is no court that can prove that he owns crypto.  As far as I assume, the husband must have talked about his crypto holdings with his wife before the divorce.

Or the husband is careless to leave his unit open to the prying eyes of his wife.  There is a possibility that traces of the husband engaging in Bitcoin can be found if the wife obseve how his husband behaves.  Besides, being husband and wife made the wife getting access to the personal belongings of the husband.


There are lots of ways to know if the partner is involved in Bitcoin.  By checking the computer and the history of the husband's internet activity, the software intalled on the devices and pc which can reveal whether the husband is involved in cryptocurrency investment.

They should ask the wife to provide evidence that the bitcoin belong to the husband, the husband's name is not on the bitcoin, so how will the court know the bitcoin belongs to the husband, I don't think the wife will know if the bitcoin belong to the husband because no name is written on the bitcoin. The husband can claim that the bitcoin belong to his friend or a family member, and the husband can also claim that he lost access to the wallet address, I don't know the court will be able to retrieve the bitcoin if the husband claims that he those not have access to it again.

Probably, his wife might be suspecting him even before that he’s really into bitcoin, it’s just that she has no way to find for it. Now, she’s being smarter to claim what’s for her too when she found out that his husband had been keeping bitcoin all along. Let’s say his husband might have his own reasons why he’s being secretive to his wife, he might have predicted it that the marriage may not going to work for long.

If I'm to be that guy I'd try as much as I can to keep that from her, 12btc to be split into two... That's too much 🤔.
My goodness, that's harsh but women would always be women but I believe that if she doesn't have any knowledge about BTC she would have let that part of her husband's property to slide.
I don't blame those who have trust issues that they can't share their seed phrase even at the point of death. He tried playing smart but the suspicious was much on him.

What I am interested is how long have been the husband keeping that Bitcoin in his wallet, because if he accumulated that many years before or at least when the price is still 4 digits? i don't wonder why the wife has suspected on it because that is just a small amount.
but if he invested when before they felt not inlove or starting to be cold in each other, so the wife knew that there is money hidden inside His bed and that is the bitcoin held by her husband.

To the not-yet-tied guys and gals out there. If you don't want your soon-to-be companion in life to touch your holdings, just get into a prenuptial agreement of what you own like assets in crypto or real estate or as in anything. It's an agreement for those that you haven't heard it yet.
And this is also the reason why many marriage got their own downfall when they don't agree to each other in terms of finance, assets and investments. That's why before you tie the knot, make it sure that both of agreed to the likes of each other and accepts whatever it is because both of you are on your behalf and have each other's back.

Even if the both parties are on any sort of blood oath I still don't think that would prohibit the other from eyeing the property of the other.
Some of these marriages happens because of what the man or woman have. With that kind of marriage you expect them to stay together till they die? Even if their vow includes in sickness and in health till death do us part? No way is that happening in any part of Africa I think.

Exactly, cause if you're gonna get married you will look for someone that's capable of being financially educated and can manage by himself. Let's say you love the person no matter what even he doesn't have a job or any money sources still you've married him/her. For sure they wouldn't last long, health is wealth but in case of emergencies it might be a problem to take out an empty pocket. Some people would even marry someone's already rich so they can build their own career which I think it's really normal, cause people tend to love their own careen than their love ones cause for sure you'll love someone who's really providing for both of your needs.

Well been through two divorces. Over 65% or marriages end in divorce (US) and 90% of the time it's woman who initiates it. There is no real upside for a modern US man to get married, It's all liability.  I have ALOT of friends get blindsided by a wife draining accounts, running up debt, not paying taxes and such. I'm not saying hide allot of money but think it's wise to have a reasonable war chest. Not even divorce maybe something you get your assets frozen and you don't have gas or food money laying round..

Imo, maybe they live in a country that requires all assets accumulated during their marriage to be halved (50% for the husband and 50% for the wife). There may be an element of deliberate action taken by the husband, who does not want the amount of BTC he owns to be split into two, but the wife, who previously knew about her husband's activities, is suspicious of a number of assets owned which are stored in the form of Bitcoin.

The husband could argue that the assets are not his, as long as he does not reveal the private key which has a number of BTC in it, there is nothing that can be proven to the court that the assets are his. In an instant, the husband could manipulate these assets into someone else's possession, because the only way to prove these assets is to have a private key.
In this way the husband can secure his BTC from his wife's greed.

It is weird how marriages end. One day you say that you are going to spend rest of your life with a person, and then something happens in that marriage and you want to give zero cents to that person and just want to get rid of them without anything. This all depends on a situation, without putting man or woman in there, just considering it as two humans, if one of them works and the other doesn't work and you agree to this together, for any reason at all, then the one who works has to pay after the divorce. Since its so common, people think that man carries the load of the house and woman just sits at home, and after divorce man shouldn't take care of her, well I support this for woman who work too, if woman works and man stays at home because of some arrangement they had, then when they divorce woman should be paying man too. Aside from that, in a situation where both works, there is no need to pay anyone. In this case, if any money that the woman earned was involved in that bitcoin, it means it has to be shared, but if not, then he should keep it.

In my region (a small town in Indonesia), we follow a unique financial system where 100% of the financial management is entrusted to the wife, while the husband's role is to work and provide for the family. True love, as I perceive it, is characterized by complete transparency between married partners. A man must carefully select the right woman to ensure the stability of their household, while a woman must maintain her dignity by remaining loyal to her husband.

Whenever the husband wishes to make a purchase, it is essential that the wife is informed. Financial decisions within the household always involve mutual agreement to prevent any wasteful spending, provided that both parties understand each other.

In connection to the case mentioned in this thread, I believe the culture of the individuals involved differs significantly from the customs in my area. If a husband still hides something from his wife, then there must be something more precious to him than his love for her.

In cases of divorce, assets should be divided equally, and the portion may increase further when children are involved.

I would support the wife in promptly revealing any concealed BTC held by her husband. Subsequently, reporting these assets to the court for a fair distribution in the divorce case. Whether it's a 50%:50% split or a 60%:40% division, that decision should be left to the judge.

Recently I've noticed that having divorce is easy they just give each other money and also support the child and they are done. They just do it easily and I've noticed this mostly with rich people and even just because they have money they can do it easily. 

Mariage right now is something that they are finding security in financially they are just after the money and the assets not the love that was given to each other. But this is already the case, and for sure women always win and they can get half of the assets no matter what as Bitcoin is also an asset. It's just lucky for her that she found out about it if not she won't be getting any of it.

It depends on the person, some may not be interested if there's a pact already and there could be some that have that hidden desire to take everything from her husband or his wife.

Well, as I've said it depends. Some person or let's say many marry someone because of their wealth and possession and some are really true love and doesn't look at those material things and assets.

These days, it's rare to happen that love lasts til they grow old. People change especially when a woman has someone to rely on whenever you divorce or a woman has money, they tend to believe they don't need men in their life. Thats very true. They suck the youth in you and then leave you when you have nothing. But in this story, the wife discovers he has 12 BTC so she has to stay and suck half of it before leaving.

Since she found out already, its best to give the 6BTC and see where she will be after she spends it all.

It's even becoming content that two fake couples end up in marriage. And that's a real thing in today's time.

While everything can be talked about properly and set what's gonna be good for one another. And if the court settles to distribute the other half as an asset to her wife during the proceedings then the guy has to obey the decision that's placed upon him. We're seeing a lot of stories like this in real life and it's all about the share of the wealth of the guy and that's why if someone is still single here, don't look for the real one that will love you. As I believe that it will come to you naturally and it is your personal decision when you're about to get married to declare it if you own bitcoin or not or discuss that to your future partner.

If she had able to spend all of that 6 BTC then she wont really be totally be having a divorce without having that kind of replacement, if there's none on that moment but later on for sure both ex husband and wife would really be finding their true love once these persons do able to move on.Its true that love nowadays and talking about forever living is seems to be that hard and its true into your word that once women do have that kind of earning capability on which they wont really be that afraid on leaving their husband on whatever issues it would be since they do know that they could be able to stand on their own and would really be thinking that
they could really be able to sustain and this is why they arent afraid on having these kind of proceedings. This is why for those husbands out there who do have crypto or bitcoin holdings then it would be better on making it as a secret but well not all men would be having this kind of mindset on which they would be always be faitful and honest to their wives when it comes to finances which it is a must but for me which it would really be that ideal that you should really be having something left for yourself when it comes to money because if you do give it all and your wife decided to leave or having a divorce then you would really be ending up on getting wrecked totally which is through love and financial.

How the wife got to know about the Bitcoin is still what is not clear to me. Maybe the man would have hinted her about it in the peak of their love else I wonder how even the expert will find out the man have Bitcoin and even know the quantity.

It breaks my heart reading different stories about divorce cases especially in the West. I don't know how they made their laws that it appear to discourage people from getting married. I know they usually site women being weaker and always the victim but they rarely know that men do become victims too.
I have lost count of the number of times I see men being thrown of a house he built just because his wife filed for divorce. There are even cases of men going to jail over mere accusations of domestic violence by their wives.

Conversely,  these incidents are not prevalent in Africa as tradions, culture and costums have more influen in marriages than the legal institution.

I don't blame the wife or the husband for revealing his Bitcoin to a crypto hunter. Instead, I think the blame should go to the lawmakers. These situations happen because the people who create these laws are the ones supporting the feminist movement, aiming to give women equal rights with men. The problem arises when it often results in sharing the man's wealth during divorce and not sharing the woman's wealth. Even if the rules were different, many women don't have much wealth to divide in the first place. I just see that women only use these shitty laws as an excuse to fuck over people.

It's obvious. Everyone likes you for your money, not for who you are. You know a thousand people, but have very few true friends, if any. You are desperate for love and true friendship, after so many years. Having good people around you is hard enough as it is. I can't imagine how much harder it becomes when you are rich.

prenuptial agreement still depends, if not a written or a documented agreement women can be deceptive and might agree and until she one day finds out the actual worth of your assets, look at what happened in the case of hakim that is wife almost went away with is assets, just better to pray for a better spouse instead of gold diggers, people like Elon have there reasons for not getting married.The situation   is that once you marry, you and your wife are supposed to be one, and the best way to make your marriage work and avoid divorce is to make it work. Marriages don't even last the way it use to be.

It won't be called an agreement if it's not written. Maybe can be said as a verbal agreement but there's no strong evidence that it has happened if you don't have a written agreement. We can learn a lot from many situations just as one with the op. So, those that are not yet in an intimate relationship and you've got plans to unite in one, just have a casual talk and agreement with your partner, and if you think that you're willing to give all to him/her, just think of it. As much as possible, we're all wishing that all unions are going to be ending as what's said in front of the altar or based on their ceremonies that they're going to be together til' death. But it is changing today, til' wealth.

Not signing a prenup before you marry someone you're likely to divorce later is financial suicide.

Financial freedom and relational dynamics are the main focus. In the age of cryptocurrencies, when Bitcoin can quickly change, this raises an interesting question about how individuals handle financial relationships. Should you tell everyone everything or keep some things to yourself Bitcoin complicates joint accounts and asset splits between couples. Ideally, partners would make money decisions together. Financial freedom can empower people to make difficult decisions like divorce, especially if they are in a toxic relationship.

Not often is arguing for property secrecy the answer. Any secret could damage trust in relationships. Couples should instead teach each other about Bitcoin's value and potential. This may improve their regard and understanding.

But if they do that, is it still called a marriage? Marriage only happens when both trust each other and share everything with each other, what is happiness if we live together but always doubt each other?

I'm a pragmatic person and money is my top priority these days. But when it comes to love between husband and wife and children, money cannot be more important than them, I work hard just because I want them to have a prosperous and fulfilling life, not just for myself. So if I lose them, money really means nothing. If we lose money, we can easily get it back, but if we lose our wife and children, how can we get it back? But it's funny how many people are even willing to not trust anyone just for a few cents that we can easily earn out there. Bitcoin is just money, as long as we earn a lot of money, we will have as many bitcoins as we want, but our wife and children cannot earn that way.

The real take away here is don't get married! Women have zero accountability and the law is on their side. Would you trust your life to an airplane that had a 65% failure rate? (US)

In my opinion if you are married to someone, then there should be no secrets what so ever.  By hiding his bitcoin/cryptocurrency assets from his wife, he is not being truly up front and open/honest with her.  Say she found this out before they ended up getting divorced, I could see this causing a pretty big rifts between the two, and leading to the wife not being able to trust her husband that same way ever again. 

In the sense that it wont really be that totally a conjugal property due into those kind of prenup agreement then i could also say that it is really that odd that between the husband and wife would really be having those kind of agreement which when we do speak about finances then this is something that very crucial on which both should really be that agreeing and not really have their own separate stashes. I dont really like the idea but
i do also agree on some part because making out some earlier agreement will really be clearing things up or would really be that be declared on having no touch in others investment on the time that they do make out agreements and if they dont like those kind of terms then they could easily cancel the marriage or simply divorce as simple as that but i dont really love this kind of idea.
Getting married is sacred and shouldn't really be just that easily be break by means of money or whatever that in talks monetary.

What kind of advice is that? Getting married is a gift to us and we should be happy is someone get married. There's a huge benefits to be married because two is better than one. You can't do all the things what women can do, and if you're sick your wife can't take care if you.

I know that there are many woman who just thinks about themselves but there are still true woman who are very loyal to their husband. The woman who is stated in the Op is not having a real love to her husband because true love can't do that. We just have to be positive that we can get a real woman we want, and if ever they leave, let them go.

Although, it's mportant for couples to be open with each other because it builds trust. However, some women nowadays use divorce as a way to get a share of their husband's property instead of marrying for love. In countries like Nigeria, women don't automatically get a share of their husband's property if they choose to leave the marriage.

They might receive some compensation, but only if they involve legal help. So, some people believe it's a good idea to keep some of their money hidden, just in case their spouse tries to use legal tricks."

It seems you misunderstood the context Op expressed. So don't draw stupid conclusions. You must be lonely! Remember discrediting women is very sensitive.

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Returning to the topic where in several marriage regulations inheritance assets are regulated in accordance with applicable state regulations. A husband and wife divorcing means the wife is definitely entitled to her share. Moreover, if you already have children, it is the responsibility of a husband, even though he is divorced, to continue to provide support according to his ability or according to the agreement on paper. Therefore, the wife is entitled to half of the Bitcoins she left behind and the husband is obliged to ensure that after the divorce, his wife and children are not abandoned. There are definitely things that need to be considered, including when dividing inheritance assets. And if you have a son, it is much more difficult because he is the only heir who cannot be removed.